Episodes

So two years ago when we were in full lockdown because of Covid there were a few things that I saw that really shocked me. One of those was Idaho’s response to Covid. I have said before on the podcast that I lived for quite a few in Idaho so I felt like I had a pretty good idea on what their government leaders were like. I have to admit that I was wrong. I was shocked to see the draconian measures that the state took in locking down its population. One story that was especially jarring for me w...

The term counter culture is a term that we as fundamentalist & traditional Mormons I think better start to take seriously. Let me tell you how the dictionary describes counter culture “a way of life and set of attitudes opposed to or at variance with the prevailing social norm”. So if you’re like me you are probably thinking wow maybe we as traditional & fundamentalist Mormons are a counter culture. Well the good news is we aren’t the first and we might be in good company….excepting of course th...

On this episode I have on Hannah Stoddard. Hannah is the Director of the Joseph Smith Foundation which seeks to defend the Restoration as given through the Prophet Joseph Smith. They do this by battling false narratives and staying true to and telling accurate history and defending Joseph Smith and other early LDS Church Presidents. Hannah and I have a conversation about how the Joseph Smith Foundation was started and the work that they do. Later we discuss current efforts of so called historian...

OK I am not breaking any news here. We all see that the world around us is getting darker. It is plainly evident that the love of man is waxing cold. We see violence, corruption, war, hunger, poverty, sexual immorality all around us and it oly continues to intensify. In a world that has seem to have lost its moral compass what are we supposed to do as followers of Christ? The answer to that question is that we must stop looking for others to change. We have to be the change we seek. Today on the...

So did you see what happened to the Dow Jones yesterday? Yeah down 1,000 points and that’s on top of the markets either being nearly flat or down all week. Something is happening within the economy that has every alarm bell in my gut going off at once. On this episode I have Kelsey Williams back on. Kelsey has worked in finance in one form or another for well over 40 years. He is the author of two books First Inflation: What it is, What it isn’t and Who’s responsible for it and his second book ...

Look we all know that things just don’t feel right. We see it everywhere. Out of control inflation across all sectors of the economy. We see civil unrest, wars abroad, the degrading of our institutions, immorality masquerading as civil rights issues and the list goes on and on. The next two weeks I have a couple of guests on the podcast to try and help us make sense of what’s going on. This episode I have on Ben McClintock. Many will recognize Ben as being the co-founder and former face of Defe...

So I have a question, If Joseph Smith really restored the Gospel we should be able to look back to ancient prophets and their teachings and we should see that those teachings line up with what Joseph Smith taught right? Well on this episode of the podcast I have a conversation with Ken Peterson. Ken is a devout lifelong member of the LDS Church. Ken has released a book titled Mormon Doctrine in the Apocrypha. In the book Ken lines out where teachings from the Apocrypha are exact matches to the t...

One of the greatest points of contention between Mormons of different sects has always been who is in charge and who has the keys. To get the proper answer to that question there is a lot of principles that need to be understood first. On this episode Michael Ness comes back on the podcast to discuss that very topic. We do a deep dive into priesthood, priesthood keys and Presidency. As we compare and contrast those three topics I think you will find that certain assumptions we may have made abou...

On this episode I have Kevin Kraut back on the podcast. Today we are going to talk about a topic that isn’t well known unless you’re in fundamentalist circles. That topic is the Dream Mine in Salem Utah. This mine has been the subject of visions, prophecy, & one man’s excommunication from the LDS Church. We breakdown the history of the mine, its current state, and also how it ties in to some peoples end times theology. Now personally I haven’t made up my mind if the stories associated with mine ...

In Mormon Fundamentalism there are names that everybody knows. Then there are a distinct few who’s influence is felt all through the community. On this episode we talk about one such man, Ogden Kraut. I sit down with Kevin Kraut Ogden’s son to talk about his Dad. We cover Ogden’s upbringing, his mission, and his work as a Mormon fundamentalist historian and author. Some of the most fascinating portions is hearing about Ogden’s interactions with folks like John Koyle, Bruce R. McConkie, Hugh Nibl...

Ok so I told you early on that that this podcast was a place for me to sit down with people I found really cool and interesting. Well this episode is like a dream come true for me. I had the opportunity to sit down with Cristina Rosetti. I am a huge fan of her work. She has spent her academic career studying Mormon Fundamentalism. Her work is respected by academics and Mormon Fundamentalists alike. Her work is both uncompromising and fair. In our conversation we cover how she became interested i...

On this episode of the podcast I sit down and have a conversation with Joshua Erickson. I have known Joshua for about a year. He is a Mormon Fundamentalist that takes a very holistic view of Mormonism. Rather than seeing the gospel and restoration in a New Testament & Old Testament sort of way he tends to look at it from the whole. The outgrowth of having this point of view is that Joshua and his family practice Mormonism in conjunction with holding to many ancient Jewish traditions including ce...

So first let me apologize that I didn’t get this episode out sooner. The audio in spots is kind of rough due to some bad internet connections so I was really working the audio over to try and clean it up so that’s why this is a few days late. However despite some rough patches this episode is one of the most important I think I have done to date. On this episode I have on Moroni Jessop. This is normally the spot where I tell everyone a little about my guest…but let’s be honest its Moroni Jessop…...

one of the first episodes i ever did on this podcast was about the Adam-God doctrine with Jacob Vidrine and to date it is still one of the most downloaded episodes. After we were done recording that episode Jacob and I talked and felt like we really left some stuff on the table. Despite that episode being three hours long we really just managed to cover the history of the doctrine. In this episode we dig deeper on the doctrine. We try to answer some common questions about the doctrine, look at t...

On this episode we talk about the economy. To help do that I brought on a guest who is why smarter than I am. His name is Kelsey Williams. Kelsey has worked in finance in one form or another for well over 40 years. He is the author of two books First Inflation: What it is, What it isn’t and Who’s responsible for it and his second book All hail the fed. He also has written and published many articles both for his website as well as other publications. All these resources can be found in the show ...

On this episode I have a fascinating conversation with Kimberly Watson Smith. Kimberly has been the leading voice in debunking the “Who killed Joseph Smith” film and the theory it presents. Not only do we cover that but we also dig into what the “Doctrine of Christ” movement is, Its founder and also some of their ideas. We wrap up our conversation by talking about some amazing prophetic parallels and events surrounding the martyrdom of Joseph & Hyrum Smith. --- Support this podcast: https://po...

On this episode of the podcast I have a conversation with Sean Anderson & Michael Ness. This is an epic conversation. Not only do we cover Sean’s journey into Mormon Fundamentalism but we go into depth on the Council of Fifty. We cover what the council was, what its purpose was and dispel some common misconceptions about the council. Finally we debunk a new idea gaining ground with young Mormons that the Law of Consecration & United Order is simply socialism with a religious bent. We do this by ...

With all that has happened this week in Texas and the horrendous loss of life of the innocent my guest Justin Francom & I changed what we were going to talk about. We ended up having a conversation about where we are at as a nation and a people, how we got here, and what the solutions are to weather the coming challenges. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

I am going to shoot ya straight straight...I am a guy who believes in some conspiracy theories. However every so often a conspiracy comes along that requires more than just a tinfoil hat....it requires an entire room made of tinfoil. On this Episode we will debunk the movie "Who Killed Joseph Smith". This movie makes the claim that John Taylor & Willard Richards were the ones that killed Joseph & Hyrum. To help debunk this I brought on Justin Francom. Justin Francom has taken an exhaustive study...

On this episode I have on Michael Ness. Michael was raised in the LDS Church in a devout traditional LDS home. After serving an LDS Mission Michael became a Mormon Fundamentalist. On this episode we cover Michaels backstory then talk about some of the deeper doctrines & ordinances with in Mormonism and how they bind us to Christ. We cover doctrines such as Adam-God, Plural Marriage, the Endowment, & Priesthood. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/...

On this episode I bring on Ben Shaffer and Felipe to review the book and television series Under The Banner of Heaven. Ben is a person well respected in fundamentalist circles and has been on a number of podcasts and is the go to guy for those outside of Mormon Fundamentalism who want to gain a better understanding of early Mormon Doctrine. On top of that Ben shares some very personal experiences he had with topics that parallel those found in Under The Banner Of Heaven. Not only do we breakdown...

On this Episode I dust off some audio I did with Carolynn. Carolynn is a Rockstar when it comes to food storage. With inflation spiking I feel like this conversation might be needed now more then ever. This audio was originally recorded in 2020 and I mainly just passed it on to close friends and family. I can tell you from personal experience that the principles we talk about on this episode work and can't recommend them highly enough. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/p...

On this episode I talk with Ann Blake-Tracy about the over prescription of psychotropic drugs. Ann comes highly credentialed having testified before the FDA multiple times and also appearing on main steams news outlets such as Fox News --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

In this episode I open up to you the listener about who I am, the experiences I had, and how that led me here to doing this podcast. My hope is that at the end of this podcast you can feel like you know me a little bit better and where I am coming from.