Episode #28: Part 2 Of The Jewish Calendar Series: Yom Kippur W/Joshua Erickson

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On this episode of the podcast,
I continue my conversation with

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Josh show, Erickson for our
series, on the feast and holy

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days of the Jewish calendar as
Mormons.

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One of our Central tenets of
faith.

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Is this idea of restoration?
Now, we know that the feast and

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holy days were instituted by
God, ancient Lee and were

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observed by the Savior himself.
This leads to the question that

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should we as Mormons give
greater attention to the Jewish

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calendar and can we glean
something special from an

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understanding and even
participation in these holidays.

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Now I strongly encourage Those
who haven't listened to episode

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number 15 and number 27 to stop
here and listen to those first

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episode 15 sets the table for
the series.

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And episode number 27 is on Rosh
Hashanah today, me and Joshua

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was conversation.
Turns to the next major event on

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the Jewish calendar, which is
Yom Kippur or the day of

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atonement.
We talk about Yom Kippur and

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what it is, what it points to
and its significance.

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How it was observed ancient lie
and finally how it can be

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observed in our day and age as
Mormons.

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And that's next on this episode
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Well Joshua, how's it going?

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It's great.
Glad to be back back again.

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I'm not going to tell the
listeners what happened but it

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was it was spiritual.
But this is the second take for

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the Yom Kippur episode.
We're doing here.

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So dude, I'm glad that you
agreed to come back.

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I apologize.
We got to do this again but it's

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always good to talk to you.
Yeah, glad to be here.

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Take 2 will be better than take
one home.

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Absolutely, absolutely.
So real quick, we talked about

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Russia Shawano last time and I
love that idea.

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Idea of that 10 day Span in
between Rosh Hashanah and Yom

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Kippur where where you're just
basically kind of recalibrating

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right?
You're putting yourself back

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into a place to where you're in
alignment with God.

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Yeah, I think so often we have
this idea of God being on our

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side and I don't think it works
like that.

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I think we have to be on his
side and that 10 day period is

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going to put it that 10-day
period.

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I think is one of those times
where we can kind of realign our

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will and our Ring and get back
with God.

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So you talked about just doing
good works, doing that sort of

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thing.
What else do you do in that 10

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day period?
Yeah it is it is just this

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exactly what you said.
It's a time of introspection and

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repentance and just taking stock
of your life and turning back to

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God.
And you know, last time I think

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I talked about the parable about
the king is in the field, right?

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And now according to tradition
on when the trumpet blows on

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Rosh Hashanah then, Of the, then
that means like court is in

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session.
The king is in his court, right?

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And there's ten days they're
called the ten days of all.

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And this is kind of the last,
your last time to make yourself,

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right with God, I like what you
said being on getting yourself

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on his side, that's where to be.
It reminds me of the verse in

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Isaiah 55 that the Lord says
seek me, while I am near, right?

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So this is, this is The time
when the Lord is near and nearer

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than he's ever been.
Sometimes people people get

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caught up in, in the symbolism
of the feasts and their, these

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fall feasts are directly
connected to the second coming

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and all the events surrounding
that.

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And so people ask me sometimes
when I think that's going to

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happen.
And you know, my answer is, I

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don't know, but we're closer
than we've ever been.

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I'm sure about that.
So yeah, I think so.

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And what's interesting is I
think that Everybody can kind of

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feel it, right?
I think that unlike other times

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there's almost a general
undercurrent of waiting for the

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other shoe to drop.
Yeah.

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And, and I think more so than
ever before, we can feel it.

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And and so I like what we're
doing here because sometimes you

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got to look back in order to
know where we're heading.

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Yeah.
And and I feel like these feasts

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and you put it this way and in
the one we did about Russia

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Shawna where Where it's an
appointment, right?

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Let's keep these appointments.
Let's, let's however you want to

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do it but keep those in mind,
right?

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And I tend to believe that that
our predecessors in Israel knew

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what they were doing and the way
that they celebrated, those

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absolutely agree.
So real quick explain to us

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exactly what Yom Kippur is.
Okay.

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It's Yom Kippur the is Hebrew.
The English is day of atonement.

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Soyou Ms. De Kapoor is atonement
which you is also translated

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sometimes as a covering.
So we're talking about it is the

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day when the sins and the
uncleanliness of the entire

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nation are taken care of by the
high priest.

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And so it's a it's incredibly
important.

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You know, last time I talked
about the maybe it, maybe I did,

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maybe I didn't I'll talk about
it now.

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Talk about sake, The idea of
Sacred Space and about making

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the Earth and our habitations
suitable for his presence to be

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among us.
And that's really kind of the

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point of a lot of these
levitical laws I'll say is to

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make place where God can dwell
Among Us and also to clean

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ourselves up so that we can
endure his presence on the

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Earth.
Okay.

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Now there's it's kind of an
interesting thing.

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The instructions for Yom Kippur
are found in Leviticus Leviticus

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chapter 16 and we're going to go
there in a minute, but first I

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want to like on either on either
side of Leviticus, we have this

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really interesting story, it's
the story is not told directly

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but if you read the books
together then there's this extra

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little story in there and so it
goes like this in towards the

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backside of Exodus, there's a
lot of instructions for how to

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build the Tabernacle and there's
all the detailed things about

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the curtains, and the the
furnishings and, and all that.

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There's a very beautiful and
very expensive building and also

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portable, right?
Because they're in the

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wilderness, right?
And they, at the end of Exodus

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they finish it.
This is Exodus chapter 40.

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And it says, and then in, and it
worked, right?

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Verse 34 says, then a cloud
covered the tent of the

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congregation and the glory.
Of Jehovah filled the Tabernacle

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and Moses was not able to enter
into the tent of congregation

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because the cloud Abode there on
and the glory of the Lord filled

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the Tabernacle.
So it was so they had built this

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place for God and had dedicated
it and then his presence came

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and dwelt.
There and says, even Moses was

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not able to go in and then the
book of Exodus like ends right

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there.
It's, that's a problem.

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Yeah, that's a funny place to
just Bright like and Moses

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couldn't enter and the end.
Yeah the end and then we get

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Leviticus which is you know
maybe the most for some people.

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Anyway maybe the most boring and
tedious book.

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Oh maybe next two numbers, I
don't know.

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But then we get Leviticus with
all the all the instructions

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about how to make sure that this
place stays holy for God's

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presence to be there and also
how to make sure that the people

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stay holy and clean so that they
an be able to enter his presence

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and then we get to the Book of
Numbers.

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And and the very first verse in
numbers says, and Jehovah spake

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unto Moses in the wilderness of
Sinai in the Tabernacle of the

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congregation on the first day of
the second month in the second

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year, it goes on.
So anyway, so Moses is able

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right after all, these extra
instructions are given.

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Moses able to go in the
tabernacle into God's presence

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and that's what Yom Kippur is
all about.

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Is about making sure that both
the the place and the people are

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clean so that they can enjoy one
another's company so to speak.

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That's awesome.
You know, the symbolism is so

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rich in there. and it's a shame
that more people, don't dive

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into those first five books of
Moses because What I discovered

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is that not only is their
instruction for Israel.

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You know, the the nation of
Israel.

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Those instructions are very
personal, right?

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It's like, all of you have to do
this in order to get these

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blessings.
All of you individually have to

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do your part.
So that the entire nation is

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blessed and I think that as
fundamentalist and Mormons in

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general, we all strive for Zion
Right?

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And we forget that it's not like
Zion is just going to pop up.

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And then we're just going to all
the sudden, be ready to inhabit

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Zion.
Right?

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We have to build it.
And and the first thing we got

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to do is build ourselves and our
families.

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And I think the, the symbolism
is so rich there.

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I just got done going through
the Old Testament again.

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And one of the things that, that
I noticed, especially about, you

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know, Leviticus Numbers
Deuteronomy.

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That's almost got a Doctrine and
Covenants, feel to it in a lot

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of ways because you're getting
this feeling that just like the

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Doctrine and Covenants, almost
entirely were responses

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responses.
Yeah, to to Joseph's questions

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about how do I do this?
How do I, how do we govern

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ourselves, how do I administrate
in these offices?

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I think in a very real way,
Leviticus and numbers and

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Deuteronomy, Doing the exact
same thing, right?

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Moses like how do I govern this
people?

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What do we need to do?
And so I think that that within

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these books, you get this idea
of history repeating itself

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again.
Yeah, I think that's a beautiful

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way to put it.
There's definitely a connection

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there.
I like what you said about like

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the there's in these books we
definitely get a sense of the

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connection to the nation that
every individual has like yes,

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these things.
Things are about the entire

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nation of Israel, but, if
everyone's not on board, then

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did then God, can't bless God.
Can't be in like, no unclean

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thing.
Can be in his presence.

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We say that, right?
Right.

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I mean, you know, that, of
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about that but you know, but one
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not United disqualifies the
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And, you know, I'm a big fan of
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I know we've talked right but he
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he quotes old units and stuff,
Gulag archipelago talking about

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like the sins of individual
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laziness of individual people
led to cause this National

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catastrophe, right?
Regular people aren't doing what

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they're supposed to and suddenly
the world whole world falls

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apart into tyranny and awful
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Jordan, Peters is famous for
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right?
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Care of Self and and you don't,
you don't realize the effect

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that you have on the larger
society just by getting yourself

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in order and your own home in
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Sometimes, I think we focus a
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think it's good that we are
important to God.

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But with that importance,
there's responsibility, right?

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We have an influence that like a
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Those ripples go out and and
we're all those stones and that

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pain.
Is society whatever Society were

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in and we're seeking it has a
ripple effect and we have a

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certain responsibility to make
sure that whatever we're sending

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out is is on par with what God
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Yeah yeah.
And there's like you said, also

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the other side of it is God list
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and says you do this, and you're
going to be blessed, right?

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Prosper in the And if not the
land will become defiled like it

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was before and I will speak the
land clean.

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I'll sweep you out and start
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Yeah.
And I think we miss the fact

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that that we are still under
that National Covenant, right?

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Absolutely.
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And as a people is a Book of
Mormons full of that to

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absolutely, because this land
will be inhabited by says a band

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of Christians, right here, right
worship the god of the land.

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Just Jehovah and if and if not,
then it will be swept clean.

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Yep.
And and people history is so

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important because again, it
gives it gives the backstory, it

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gives the direction, right?
And people often glossed over

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that the First Act Washington
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Convention, he marches everybody
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st.
Marks in New York and he puts

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Eddie they're under Covenant and
it's the only time outside of

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Israel.
Proper that a nation had made a

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covenant with the god of
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interesting.
And I've not heard that story.

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Covenant that basically it we
will be your people if you will

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be our God and we will keep your
statutes and and he's very

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deliberate in that.
And in that moment Washington is

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acting somewhat like a high
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Oh yeah and what's interesting
is that is darn close to ground

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zero and God always comes back
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There's lots of always and
there's a lot of interesting

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parallels and so it used to bug
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correct.
So, take this for what it is.

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It's from the book of Dave, but
hopeful what's that, which isn't

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one of the apocryphal books.
One of the apocryphal ones, I'm

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sure it's in there, just to keep
Um, but one thing that always

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used to bug me was how is
America not mentioned in the Old

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Testament, it plays such an
important role or the New

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Testament.
It plays such an important

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pivotal role in any time.
There's a major civilization,

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God mentions it, whether it's in
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directly by name and it's really
hard to find anything about

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America in there and it dawned
on On me when I thought about

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that that by Washington making
that Covenant with the god of

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Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob again,
the only other country in the

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world to ever do other than
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We numbered ourselves amongst
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Hmm.
We know there's a lot of blood

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of Ephraim here.
We know that there is a lot of

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of the House of Israel within
America so that that that's one

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of the ways I answered that
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That's just from the book of
Dave page, 220.

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And yeah, no, I like that, but
it's good.

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Anyway, so explain to us how Yom
Kippur was was observed in

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ancient Israel.
So significant about it.

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Yeah, is considered To be the
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wholly in many ways.
There's its Holi in space for

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one, So the Earth is God's
footstool, right?

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The Earth as a whole is is has
some Holiness to it, but among

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the Earth and all the nations
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then, you know, there are
promised lands that are have

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this higher Holiness and when
we're talking about the promised

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land in the old world, then
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And in the nation of Israel, the
holiest city is Jerusalem and in

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the holy city, Some, the holiest
place is the Temple of the

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Tabernacle and in the temple,
the holiest place is holy of

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holies.
Z6 is even more layers than that

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in the temple, there's the holy
place and then the ad outer

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court and the only place in the
holy of holies.

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So it's the holiest of the
holiest of the holiest of the

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holiest, place.
And and that is what happened.

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That is the place that is in the
center of what happens on Yom

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Kippur.
And then there's this sacredness

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in time too.
Because again, it's the seventh

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month, which is this holy time
right now, out of the year.

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And it's on the day of
atonement, which is the holiest

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day of the, of the holiest
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And then we have the holiest,
the holiest person to we have,

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yes, we Have All God's Children.
But of the Nations and Israel

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was chosen and out of those then
the the tribe of Levi was chosen

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and then out of those there was
Aaron and his descendants were

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going to be the high priest and
then we have the high priest

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himself and so again the holiest
of the holiest of the Holy and

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then and then he goes into the
holiest place at the holiest

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time and says the holiest
things.

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And so it's a very very reverent
time and it's it's interesting.

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A lot of the other The other
feast days of the lord.

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We talk about the feast days,
and Leviticus 23.

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They're all laid out there and
they are all feasts.

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They're all referred to as
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And one point or not.
I mean, generally the referred

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to as Feast except for Yom
Kippur which is considered to be

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fast day.
So it's actually a day to

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afflict yourselves says and to
rest and I'll just I'll just

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read it.
Here is in Leviticus 23,

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starting in verse 26.
And the Lord spake unto Moses

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saying, also on the tenth day of
this seventh month which is the

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day of Yom Kippur, there should
be a day of atonement, it shall

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be an holy convocation unto you
and ye shall afflict your souls,

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and offer an offering made by
fire unto Jehovah and you shall

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do no work in that same day or
it is a day of atonement to make

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an atonement for you before.
Jehovah, your God, for

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whatsoever, Soul it.
Be that shall not be afflicted

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in the same day.
You should be cut off from among

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his people and whatsoever, Soul.
It be that do with any work in

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that.
Same day, the same soul will.

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I will I destroy from among his
people.

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You shall do no manner of work.
It shall be a statute forever

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throughout your Generations in
all your dwellings.

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It shall be unto you.
A Sabbath of rest and ye shall

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afflict your souls in the ninth,
on the ninth day of the month at

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even from evening to evening,
show you celebrate your Sabbath.

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So, I mean, Really the it's like
repeated over and over don't do

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anything afflict your souls
don't do everything.

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Don't do any work afflict your
souls are basically it's this is

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this is the Sabbath of Sabbath's
so it is a day to rest and

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reflect and to do nothing and
then and it's interesting that a

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lot of the other.
Yeah.

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Like as I mentioned the other
feast days there's a lot of

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participation from those who are
celebrating it on.

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The day of atonement, it is all
about the work of the high

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priest.
He is, this is his day to shine,

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so, to speak, and to perform an
atonement for Israel.

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And of course, it doesn't take
much figuring out to realize

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that this is a very strong type
and Shadow of the work that

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Jesus did write as the great
high priest.

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So, I'm getting and correct me
if I'm wrong here.

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I'm getting this idea.
That, that may be the work that

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the high priest is doing isn't
necessarily observed by most of

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the congregation of Israel.
Correct.

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That is correct.
And actually, no one sees, no

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one actually directly sees what
is done, and that's kind of one

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of the Beautiful Things,
actually.

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One of the symbolic symbolic
things, you know, the high

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priest and you can read about,
you know, the guard that the

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high priest wears.
Yes, and it's beautiful.

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It's, you know, made out of red,
you'd threads that are dyed, red

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and blue and purple and also
actual threads of gold like all

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woven together to make his robe
and and part of his breastplate.

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And there's precious stones and
they have you settings in gold

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and he's got a gold solid gold
plate on his forehead.

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Has the words inscribed Holiness
to the Lord and and, and anyway,

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it's just it's like,
extravagant, the beauty of the

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high priest.
Garments are rise.

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And he wears the high priest
wears those normally.

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But when the high priest does
his work on the day of

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atonement, he actually sets all
of that Glory aside and dresses

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himself up as regular priest,
he's only wearing white linen,

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which is the standard Priestly
attire for the levitical priests

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And and then he does his, does
his work in the holy of holies.

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Dressed like any other priests.
If you can't tell by looking

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that, he is the high priest.
And this is, this is a

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remarkable thing because, in
course, is similar to what

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Jesus, right.
Yeah.

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Jesus Bookworm talks about Jesus
condescending, right?

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Setting aside the glory that he
had come down to earth.

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And you Isaiah says engines,
Isaiah 53 says that the Messiah

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will have no form or comeliness
that we should do.

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He's not going to he's not going
to be impressive looking.

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Right?
And we won't know that.

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Yeah.
Unless you're watching and

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waiting you won't know that it's
that the Messiah is arrived

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because he's just going to be
like any other man.

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I mean this is a a common I
think objection to Jesus in

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Jerusalem.
They would say The leaders or

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the, you know, the people in
Jerusalem and say like we have

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like we know this man, we know
his family you know, his

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brothers and sisters here, like
he's just he's From Galilee,

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he's just a normal guy and he so
he's making these claims and we

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don't believe it because there's
nothing special that we can see,

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ya know, there's a yeah, there's
so many types and shadows there

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of the high priest, being a type
and Shadow of Christ himself.

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Yeah.
Doing that work.

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That because you think about it.
I mean the only witnesses to the

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atonement are really especially
the garden.

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Portion are a few of his inner
circle right through the Inner

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Circle and even they fall
asleep, And so this idea that

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that the high priest is doing
that work.

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Without anybody watching, right
strikes, me as significant.

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There's there's a speaking of
apocryphal books we mentioned

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earlier.
There's one apocryphal book

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called the extension of Isaiah.
And in it, Isaiah has this

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Vision where he's, there's this
angel that takes him up through

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the various levels of heaven.
And he goes At each level he

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sees the beings who are there
and he sees how they're dressed

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and sees their glory and they're
praising the Lord and so on, and

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the Angel takes him on this tour
of heaven, and when he gets up

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every level, he goes up, gets
its brighter, and more glorious

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and more beautiful and more
awe-inspiring.

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And he gets up to the sixth
heaven.

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And he says, this is, the glory
is so overwhelming.

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All the other levels of Even
like I thought those were

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amazing but those are just dark
in Congress and he finally gets

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up to the seventh heaven and he
sees the son of man and and

445
00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:06,800
basically is handed off to the
son of man and the son of man is

446
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,300
going to take him back down
through the levels, but when he

447
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:15,100
does that and then he's going to
come to Earth and and beat him

448
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,700
sign.
But he does that end as he's as

449
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:23,400
he's going down.
Of the son of man you know,

450
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:28,100
which is premium.
Jesus basically right disguises

451
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:32,700
himself so that he looks like
just the regular old Angels,

452
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:34,900
right?
You know, the beings that are at

453
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:41,000
each level disguises himself and
Isaiah's kind of Amazed at this,

454
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,600
that no one in the levels of
Heaven recognize, who he's with

455
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,800
and he finally comes down to
earth and it's just, you know,

456
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,600
just man.
So I want to go back to

457
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,100
something real quick if you
don't mind.

458
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,900
Yeah.
In that was in the prescription

459
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:02,400
of how the Yom Kippur was kept.
What do you think it means?

460
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,300
They're when it talks about.
It's a time for rest and

461
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,900
afflicting your soul.
Yeah.

462
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,100
What do you think?
Talking about there, that's

463
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:16,000
good.
I do think that it is it is

464
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:22,700
referring to fasting, okay?
But you could certainly be

465
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,600
fasting of All Sorts.
I've never been to Israel, but

466
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,500
I've heard that on Yom Kippur
that it is.

467
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,600
It is Deathly quiet.
Like people don't even turn on

468
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,000
their TVs radios or whatever.
And there's you know they'll be

469
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,400
children riding their bicycles
on the freeway and stuff like

470
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,100
that because there's no traffic,
everything shuts down

471
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,600
completely, and everyone's just
kind of waiting in anticipation.

472
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,700
So, I mean, it is, it is the
final day.

473
00:29:55,900 --> 00:30:03,100
This is, this is the other
besides forgiveness One of the

474
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,500
one of the things that Yom
Kippur is also pointing towards

475
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:08,300
is judgment, is the final
judgment?

476
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:11,800
And so this is the this is the
last day.

477
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:17,800
Symbolically speaking to get
your to repent, right to get on

478
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,800
the loop to become to get
yourself on the Lord's Side as

479
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,700
you've mentioned earlier.
So yeah, so I think that could,

480
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,300
that could that Affliction of
your soul, could take a variety

481
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:35,000
of forms, but we do want to be
careful.

482
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,700
I think not to afflict our souls
the way the Hypocrites, do like

483
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:42,500
Jesus, right?
They fast and they, you know,

484
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:47,100
they moan and complain and, you
know, put ashes on their face

485
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,400
and those kind of things and
tell everyone how hungry they

486
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,400
are all the time.
But you want to do, like what

487
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,600
says, in Isaiah Chapter 58 which
says, this is the fast that I

488
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,000
have.
Oh Dean, which is to meet the

489
00:31:02,008 --> 00:31:05,100
needs of your fellow people,
right?

490
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,400
To feed the hungry and visit the
poor.

491
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,600
All the things that says are you
familiar with?

492
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,900
Yeah, my rings are ringing Bells
as if if you have.

493
00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:23,100
So that's the fast is to yes to
make yourself uncomfortable and

494
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:30,100
at the same time, Serve others
without complaining about your

495
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:34,800
own discomfort and just set
yourself aside for a day and do

496
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,800
something for other people.
And, you know, in, in that way,

497
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,200
we kind of, we do participate,
we partake in some small sense

498
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:47,500
in the work of Messiah, right?
Poor him.

499
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:53,500
He poured himself out right for
our behalf and, and laid his

500
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:57,700
life down for his friends.
He says greater love has no man

501
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:01,400
that he lay down his life for
his friends and so it's a day of

502
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:07,400
service and to just yeah say
yourself said you know it is as

503
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,900
I was thinking about that.
I think that it's probably and

504
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:15,600
maybe correct me if I'm wrong in
maybe a more.

505
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,400
Holy expression than what we're
used to doing every week as we

506
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,800
partake of the sacrament.
Maybe that's the time to focus

507
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,400
on that broken heart and a
contrite spirit as well.

508
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:31,600
Absolutely.
Cuz I get this feeling that, you

509
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,000
know, whether you're
participating by being of

510
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,100
service to another or whether
you're a home, just

511
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:42,300
contemplating the work that's
done by the high priest.

512
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,300
You also have to have this
recognition of.

513
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:49,900
I'm kind of the blame for this
to, right?

514
00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:53,100
I mean, I've done these things
in and look at what I've done.

515
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:56,100
Is your sins and your
carelessness right now, it's

516
00:32:56,100 --> 00:33:01,900
time to to have that taken care
of, but with that, there's a

517
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:07,300
almost a commission to do better
from that point forward.

518
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,400
Yeah, right.
And and then a sense of

519
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,300
gratitude that God's given you a
way out.

520
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:19,300
That's Yeah.
I like what you said about the

521
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,700
The part that we have to play,
we all some of those.

522
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,400
Some of those drops of blood
that Jesus Sweat, Right?

523
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,900
In the Garden were for you and
for me, yeah.

524
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,800
And just knowing that is just
knowing the Great Lengths that

525
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,600
he would go to bring us back in
provide a way for us to come

526
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:52,800
back in is humbling.
Yeah, and so Humility is I think

527
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,300
super important that
recognition.

528
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:57,300
In fact, I was going to talk
about this a little bit later

529
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:04,600
but now is probably a good time.
If you go to Leviticus chapter

530
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,800
4, I'm going to read just going
to quickly read a couple.

531
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,699
Yeah, I think so Leviticus
chapter 4 is all about what to

532
00:34:14,707 --> 00:34:20,100
do when people sin and in
particular what to do when not

533
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:24,300
in particular, I will say only
what to do when people sin in

534
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:26,100
ignorance.
Okay, not knowing what they're

535
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:28,300
doing.
So little big this for two and

536
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:31,300
we're not going to read all of
it, but just say that's a speak

537
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:33,800
of the children of Israel.
If a soul shall sin through

538
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,800
ignorance against any of The
Commandments of Jehovah,

539
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,400
Concerning things which ought
not to be done and she'll do

540
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,600
against any of them.
Then it says you know what the

541
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,600
person's going to do in the
priests is going to do and

542
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,600
universe 13 and if the whole
Congregation of Israel sin

543
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,199
through ignorance, right if
everyone forgets, which has

544
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,100
happened in Israel's history
before they forget, they're

545
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:57,300
supposed to be keeping the
Passover.

546
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:00,600
It just Sia has a big
Reformation right now, this

547
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,600
Okay, they sin through ignorance
and the thing, be hid from the

548
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,600
eyes of the assembly, and they
have done somewhat against any

549
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,300
of The Commandments of Jehovah
and then goes on.

550
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,000
And, you know, verse 22 says,
when a ruler of the people, you

551
00:35:15,008 --> 00:35:16,900
know, the king or one of the
elders are the judges or

552
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:18,500
whatever.
When a ruler has sinned and done

553
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:20,500
somewhat through ignorance
against any of The Commandments

554
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,700
of Jehovah has God concerning
things which should not be done

555
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:25,700
and is guilty.
And then it goes on with what

556
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:29,800
should be done verse 27, if any
of the Common People sin through

557
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,300
ignorance, while he do it,
Somewhat against any of The

558
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:36,800
Commandments of the Lord, then
it goes on and you go to numbers

559
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,900
Numbers.
Chapter 15 is another good

560
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:46,100
chapter for this.
And go there, numbers 15 verse

561
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,500
22.
If you have erred and not

562
00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:51,300
observed, all these Commandments
which the Lord has spoken to

563
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:54,800
Moses, even all that, the Lord
has commanded you by the hand of

564
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,900
Moses.
From the day that Lord commanded

565
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:01,700
Moses and henceforward among
your Generations, then it shall

566
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:04,700
be if aught be committed by
ignorance without the knowledge

567
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:08,600
of the congregation, then all
the congregation do this and

568
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:15,000
that and and verse 27 If any
Soul sin through ignorance, then

569
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,100
he shall bring a sheet.
You're the first year since

570
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:21,100
healthy goes on.
So now the interesting thing

571
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:24,200
about all of these references
and there's others that we could

572
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,500
list to is that every single
thing that the law can take care

573
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:31,700
of every single thing that you
can actually be forgiven them

574
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:35,500
in, in the entire, in the entire
Old Testament.

575
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:37,800
And I would argue New Testament
as well.

576
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,200
I would argue that, this is
still the case, is that you

577
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,800
cannot be forgiven.
Intentional sins.

578
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,100
Now that's a pretty rough thing
to say because who has not

579
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:53,800
sinned intentionally or
knowingly.

580
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,900
Raise your hand, you know?
Right?

581
00:36:55,900 --> 00:37:00,400
I have okay.
So what what is the, what is the

582
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,200
solution if you sin
intentionally?

583
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Well, it says, in numbers 15
verse 30, But the soul that do

584
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,500
with Aunt presumptuously,
whether he be born in the land

585
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:15,300
or a stranger, the same
approach, if Jehovah, and that

586
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:18,700
Soul shall be cut off, from
among his people, because he has

587
00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:23,000
despised the word of the Lord,
and has broken his Commandment.

588
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,200
That Soul shall utterly be cut
off his iniquity, shall be upon

589
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,200
him.
And that's it.

590
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Like, the nigger nicotine is on
you and you get cut off again,

591
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:34,400
pushed out of the.
We can't have you here among

592
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,200
this.
Holy people.

593
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:39,500
So that's pretty rough.
I think that that's that's the

594
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:42,300
only solution.
Now.

595
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:50,700
You know, there is talk in the
New Testament, you know, and in

596
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:55,900
Mormon history about what
constitutes an unpardonable sin,

597
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,100
right?
And there's, you know, there's

598
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:01,400
kind of some various answers.
You'll get there's some kind of

599
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,000
General consensus.
This is like some serious,

600
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:09,300
things like murder or nine, the
Holy Ghost right Joe Smith.

601
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:12,300
I don't have to quote in front
of me but you'll probably

602
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:14,900
recognize it said something
about at least about the sons of

603
00:38:14,908 --> 00:38:19,700
Perdition that's like looking at
the sun and saying that the sun

604
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:21,300
doesn't exist or something like
that, right?

605
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,600
It's a defiant act and I think
that really is at the, at the

606
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:32,900
heart of Of what is
unforgivable.

607
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,100
Is that it?
And there?

608
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:39,400
And there is a difference, I
will say to between deliberate

609
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:45,100
and defiant, right?
And as long as as long as there

610
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:51,600
is Defiance in someone's heart,
Then there's no there's no

611
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,200
forgiveness there because
forgiveness requires that.

612
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,700
Humility broken, heart contrite
spirit.

613
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,600
So so what's the solution to all
of this?

614
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:05,600
It is, it is humility.
It is regret, it is it is.

615
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,800
You realize the harm you've
done, not only to the person but

616
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,900
to yourself to the nation and to
the Savior.

617
00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:20,700
And when there is this change of
heart, And and there's this

618
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:25,300
regret, then there's this
magical thing that happens where

619
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:32,300
the intentional sin becomes sin,
committed in ignorance, right?

620
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,800
Because and why, you know, why
is that?

621
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:42,300
Because you can imagine You're
speaking to God about this or

622
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:44,100
something?
Yeah, the Judgment bar.

623
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:47,800
God says, he did this thing, he
broke this commandment and you

624
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,000
knew that that was that you're
breaking it and and your

625
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,000
response is yes.
But I it was I thought it would

626
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,700
be great, but I feel so bad
about I regret it.

627
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:09,000
Now, I regret what I did and the
Lord says You know, so if you

628
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,400
knew then how you would have how
you would feel about it, then

629
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:17,500
are you telling me you wouldn't
have done it and he said, yes, I

630
00:40:17,508 --> 00:40:20,600
would not have done it if I'd
known that, I would feel this

631
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,900
way now and he says, well then
then you committed in ignorance,

632
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,200
right?
And so it will not be, you know,

633
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,500
in part.
So then we can forgive that he

634
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:34,800
had as it's not in Defiance.
You know, one of the things that

635
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:40,000
always struck me especially
about the the first five books

636
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,200
of Moses was, there was a lot of
death in there for screwing up.

637
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Potentially?
Yes.

638
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:47,100
Yeah.
There was there were there.

639
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:50,200
Then there was actually yeah,
there is a potential but actual,

640
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,200
yeah.
Severe in punishment sometimes

641
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,100
and that used to bug me because
I used to, I used to be like,

642
00:40:56,100 --> 00:41:01,200
yeah, I get, I get the atonement
right or I get as much as I can.

643
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,500
The atonement, right?
Just talk about the atonement

644
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:10,100
that things vast and expansive
and, you know, Eternal but I'm

645
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:13,200
like how does how does the
Justice square with that?

646
00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:16,000
Well, there's there's this idea
that Christ paid for that death

647
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:21,500
and whatnot but I think it goes
deeper for us even than that.

648
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:25,800
And I remember the thinking
about this a lot when I was

649
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,900
first coming into Mormonism.
When I join the LDS Church, And

650
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,100
my mom was a Catholic and my dad
was a southern baptist.

651
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:38,800
So I got plenty of Hellfire and
brimstone, right?

652
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,100
And and I understood that in
combination.

653
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:46,500
Yeah, yeah I understood that.
That while God was certainly

654
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:54,000
merciful, that Mercy, didn't
necessarily mean that you were

655
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,500
going to skip the consequence of
what you did that.

656
00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:00,700
Just meant that there was four.
Goodness somewhere.

657
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:04,200
Yeah.
And so used to bug me with all

658
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,700
these prescriptions in the Old
Testament of death.

659
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,000
But I remember I'd been a Mormon
four, maybe five years and I

660
00:42:12,008 --> 00:42:14,100
still struggled with this a
little bit, right?

661
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:19,500
I knew in my heart that I'd been
forgiven but the academic side

662
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:23,700
of me just ate at me.
Like yeah, yeah, but but there's

663
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:28,300
all these other other things and
what occurred to me one day as I

664
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:31,400
was just contemplating my place
before God.

665
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:38,200
Is that in some ways?
When repentance happens, That

666
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:44,100
old person does die, right?
As I look back at who I was

667
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:49,700
before my conversion.
I'm not the same guy, right?

668
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:56,000
I delighted and doing things
that were just absolutely messed

669
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,100
up, right?
I have no other way to say it.

670
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:02,100
I I've often said, if I, you
know, I never will.

671
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:05,000
But if I did run for public
office has, someone was to come

672
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,200
to me and say, hey we have this
picture of you.

673
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,000
In this compromising position,
I'd have to be like, is it

674
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,300
pre-1996?
If so then yeah, you got me.

675
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:17,000
You got me, you got me, right?
I mean, I'm not even gonna

676
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:23,100
debate that but looking back it
seems like a different person,

677
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:25,900
right?
And so I think we all go through

678
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:30,500
this time where we for lack of a
better word we kill the old man

679
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,600
right?
We kill we kill the guy who who

680
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:39,200
used to be or the woman we used
to be and we come Again cleanse

681
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:44,700
and newness of like a Romans 6.
Yeah baptized unto death, right?

682
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:46,800
But it's still a very
intentional act.

683
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,300
Right there has to be the
recognition that hey, I've

684
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:52,800
screwed up, I've made some
mistakes here and in order to

685
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,800
fix this old parts of me, have
to pass away.

686
00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:00,700
Yeah, they do absolutely.
So I I think sometimes we think

687
00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:04,200
that that Christ's atonement
just completely get away with

688
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,200
anything that Moses ever talked
about.

689
00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:09,600
Yeah, well, that's not Certainly
the case and perhaps the

690
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,200
assumptions we made, when we
first read, those things were

691
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:20,000
from were too much slanted
towards the temporal, right?

692
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,900
Yeah.
You know what to those those

693
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:24,800
harsh?
I mean and there were there were

694
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:31,300
people who are executed, but it
in the history of Israel, those

695
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:34,200
things are actually quite rare.
Yep.

696
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:41,900
In, you know, in the The times
around Jesus day, the Sanhedrin

697
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,400
they were they were loath to put
someone to death, even for the

698
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,600
put Jesus to death, but the
general, the general Israelite,

699
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,400
even even in cases of adultery
and things, which is clearly a

700
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:04,000
deaf deserving offense.
According to the law, those that

701
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,300
sentence of death was understood
to be like a maximum.

702
00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:12,000
Right maximum sentence.
It's kind of like we do.

703
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,200
Now, we have the judges, have
this leeway and depending on the

704
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,600
circumstances of the case they
can do anywhere from five years

705
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,900
to life or whatever, you know,
maybe.

706
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,600
And so the death penalty is kind
of that maximum possible

707
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,100
sentence but they would not
normally put people to death.

708
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,700
It would, you know, are they
repentant?

709
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,300
Did they really understand what
they were doing?

710
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:41,400
I mean, They would the, the
principle of innocent till

711
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,800
proven guilty, like the
Assumption of innocence was is

712
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:51,200
embedded in the toilet.
And that is part of the

713
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,900
Israelite judicial system as
much as it is in ours.

714
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,400
And so people would given every
benefit of the doubt and we're

715
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,900
man were given opportunities to
make amends and so on and a lot

716
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:05,800
of that stuff to about, you
know, an eye for an eye.

717
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,100
A tooth for a tooth.
Again those things are not those

718
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:14,600
things, aren't necessarily
literal either we tend to view

719
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:22,600
those things as overly harsh,
but as an eye-for-an-eye example

720
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:26,500
you know maybe you you did you
get in a fight, you're stupid

721
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,500
with your neighbor and you poke
his eye out, or something like

722
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:32,200
that.
And they're not just going to

723
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,800
poke your eye out because then
that just takes Away from your.

724
00:46:37,900 --> 00:46:40,500
The ability of the whole
Community to her adoptive

725
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:43,400
people.
So what they do is they assess a

726
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:46,500
last the man who has an eye
poked out, how much is your I

727
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:51,400
worth, right?
And he'll say whatever say

728
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,400
50,000 shekels are or whatever
it is.

729
00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:58,500
And then the judge will look at
the man and poke the eye on says

730
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,800
what do you think about that and
he's like oh that's a lot.

731
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,800
I don't know.
Maybe they maybe they can come

732
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000
to an agreement, maybe it's
maybe they agree on forty

733
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,800
thousand shekels and then the
Judge says.

734
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:12,300
Make your payments.
You have many, many nods to a

735
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,900
hot iron in the fire over there,
right?

736
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:17,100
So yeah, you're not going to
your eye poked out.

737
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:21,500
But if you, if you say no, I
don't agree or I'm going to

738
00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:23,300
fight against this, then maybe
you would.

739
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:25,200
But right.
But that's not, that's not the

740
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,300
go to, you know, there's there's
a couple things and I love that

741
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:33,600
because that that is true.
I took a course in Hebrew

742
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:40,300
tradition and history and one of
the things They had had pointed

743
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:43,000
out, was that unlike where we're
at?

744
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,300
Now I think it started out this
way in America, but somehow it's

745
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:51,700
been been perverted and twisted
the the Jewish, you know, penal

746
00:47:51,700 --> 00:47:53,300
system if you will.
Yeah.

747
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:57,800
It was designed to restore
that's her summative.

748
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,700
Yes.
Who had been a, you know,

749
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:04,200
Afflicted, write it while
certainly Doling out punishment

750
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,600
was was a part of that, more
than anything else.

751
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,100
It was meant to To be
restorative and I think we've

752
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:14,300
lost that to a certain extent.
Absolutely, and skousen points

753
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:17,400
that out as well in a series, he
is called the Thousand-Year

754
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,700
Series where it goes through the
Old Testament.

755
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,700
I think we need to get back to
that right back to her, some

756
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:25,800
medical rhyme, and we pay the
government fine.

757
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:30,000
Instead, of right instead of
restoring our neighbor, right?

758
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:31,600
Right.
And there's no, there's no

759
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,100
jails.
No, in the Torah?

760
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:36,700
No.
Like you you commit a crime.

761
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:40,800
You pay it off.
We want you out doing work

762
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,800
stuff.
Yeah, you pay it off and then

763
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,300
everything is good and we just
keep moving along, we don't pay

764
00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:51,900
to keep you locked up and and
take the people who are working.

765
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:53,900
We take their money to pay for
yet.

766
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:55,300
Abort.
This guy who's Now not working

767
00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:57,700
because we want to punish him.
Yeah, it's just crazy.

768
00:48:57,700 --> 00:49:02,500
No.
And I think that Also, and I

769
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:05,800
think this points out maybe the
corruption in our own system.

770
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,800
Now There is nothing to be
gained by jailing people for a

771
00:49:10,808 --> 00:49:12,500
lot of the things we jail them
for.

772
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,000
So it's ridiculous, right?
I think that work you quick to

773
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,900
use that and there's, you know,
you can go down the rabbit hole

774
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:21,700
and you start looking at the
corporations that run the

775
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:23,900
prison.
I think people have this idea

776
00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:26,000
that, oh, those are all
state-run, know their state

777
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,300
funded, but there are the
private contract, their private

778
00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:32,100
contracts.
And so there's there's

779
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:36,900
definitely a push to have have
certain people in there.

780
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:41,300
So Like this idea of going back.
So to speak to this idea of

781
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,400
restorative kind of system,
right is better and Superior,

782
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,300
it's far superior.
And the other thing is that it

783
00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:56,400
is less concerned with violating
social norms and is more

784
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,600
concerned with how he treated
your neighbor and, and has it

785
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,200
been good.
It is so yeah.

786
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Yeah.
It I think at some point we'll

787
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,400
have to get back to that idea
being restorative and really

788
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,400
that's what the atonement was
about to was, it's restoring it

789
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:18,400
out, that's funny.
It's I agree.

790
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,500
I would love to see that kind of
reform.

791
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,600
So now to back to Yom Kippur,
you know, how it, how would they

792
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,400
do that?
And what would the priest?

793
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,400
The high priest do actually, I
want to say one other thing

794
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,100
that's kind of pointing to.
There's a bunch of things to

795
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:39,100
toxic point to his work, but one
of them really interesting.

796
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:42,100
This is Leviticus 16 as I
mention this kind of the the

797
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:44,700
main place where the
instructions are found for what

798
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:49,700
the high priest does.
This is verse 32, and the priest

799
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,200
Whom whom he shall anoint and
whom he shall consecrate to

800
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,400
minister in the priests office
in his father's stead, she'll

801
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,500
make the atonement show, put on
linen clothes, even the holy

802
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:02,000
garments.
Making atonement for the

803
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,900
sanctuary and goes on but it's
very interesting.

804
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:08,900
It says specifically that the
high priest which does this is

805
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:12,000
doing it in his father's to.
In other words, he's doing what

806
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,200
his father did before him.
There's some Illusions.

807
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,300
Yeah, yeah.
So really beautiful.

808
00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:22,000
So what does he do?
First of all, there's a, there's

809
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,500
a bowl that he offers for to
cleanse himself and the

810
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:28,700
priesthood.
And then the main thing is that

811
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:33,900
the two goats that are offered.
And these, These are as two

812
00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:36,300
identical goats as identical as
they can make them.

813
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,700
And they cast lots over the
goats and one of them says his

814
00:51:40,700 --> 00:51:44,500
for Jehovah and the other one is
for houses, L.

815
00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:50,500
And so, the one that's for
Jehovah, this is the one that

816
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:54,200
goes into the Tabernacle and
it's blood gets sprinkled on

817
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:58,900
holy of holies and any is in the
purpose of.

818
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:03,900
That one is to cleanse the
Tabernacle, basically, and to

819
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:09,700
make the Tabernacle clean from
all of the unintentional, kind

820
00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:14,800
of accumulation of uncleanness
that may have happened in the

821
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,700
previous year.
So that so that God can still

822
00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:20,700
come down and be in their
presence, SD, SD ID, It's to

823
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,900
clean the place because God
says, even there, you either

824
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:27,400
sins will not be their sins,
don't only pollute themselves,

825
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:32,600
they pollute the land where I
have and pollution uncleanness

826
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:36,100
or you read about it in the, in
the Torah.

827
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:41,900
It's it's contagious it.
You can transfer it transfers

828
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:45,100
from a person to person, right?
And there's like this Cymbalta

829
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,400
really symbolic lesson about
kind of what we were talking

830
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,500
about before about each
person's.

831
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:54,500
Actions have this ripple effect
that goes out from them.

832
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,200
And and you know the the
cleanliness laws were part of

833
00:52:59,300 --> 00:53:01,100
teaching that that concept, I
think.

834
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,500
So the other the other goat,
though goes free.

835
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:08,200
Now, the high priest puts his
hands on the head of the goat

836
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,300
and pronounces, all the sins of
the people on the goat.

837
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:17,100
And basically, this goat carries
them away to as Isaiah and as as

838
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:23,400
L is an interesting word.
And has been interesting because

839
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,700
it's uncertain.
Its meaning is uncertain.

840
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,700
All right?
So and that may be intentional

841
00:53:29,700 --> 00:53:31,100
because it probably has more
than one meaning.

842
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:35,700
There's Hebrew is full of puns.
And the these words that have

843
00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:38,500
more than one meaning or these
words that are very similar and

844
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,700
in sound and so we can draw
connections there.

845
00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:46,300
So anyway, one of the one of the
translations of asses L is the

846
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:49,700
scapegoat the goat that escapes,
which it does, they send it out?

847
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:52,100
This the the scripture say to
send out into the Wilderness

848
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,900
traditionally they would take,
they give it to some priest and

849
00:53:55,900 --> 00:54:00,500
he would lead it, you know, on a
leash like 10 miles out into the

850
00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:04,700
willings and the other, the
other meaning of as is L is that

851
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:09,000
it's, it's very likely a proper
name and now, the program for

852
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,800
for a demon for like a, this is
a, this is one of the names of

853
00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:18,000
Lucifer, essentially, gotcha.
And and the idea is that

854
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,500
Lucifer, As Dominion or power,
you know, out in out in the

855
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:28,200
desert in this Wilderness Area
and you know, Jerusalem is and

856
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,700
Israel is Holy and the Lord's.
But, you know, out in the

857
00:54:31,707 --> 00:54:34,900
wilderness, you know, that's
where the devil has his power so

858
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:37,600
to speak.
He's okay, go ahead.

859
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:42,600
That's interesting too because
that will come up again in

860
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,900
Israel's history, with this idea
of the, the have the Lord,

861
00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:51,700
having a specific place.
Right Jerusalem but Lord has a

862
00:54:51,707 --> 00:54:55,700
capital, right?
If you look at what happens in

863
00:54:55,700 --> 00:54:59,200
the Old Testament especially
around, Jeremiah where the

864
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:04,100
worship of Canaanite Gods come
into play, that's all done out

865
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:11,100
in the wilderness and that's
done with a very almost

866
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:14,100
environmentalist feel when you
start digging into it

867
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:17,100
interesting.
And and so you know, sacred

868
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:19,700
trees and churning the the
fields back.

869
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:25,200
No feral again as an offering to
tube all those sorts of things.

870
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:31,400
So well nothing is like it says
in Ecclesiastes is nothing new

871
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,200
Under the Sun, right?
Exactly.

872
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,600
It's we repeat that same process
over and over.

873
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,700
It's just packaged differently
for modern consumption.

874
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Amazing.
Yeah.

875
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,100
So this is goat with all the
sins of the people basically

876
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:52,700
gets taken out to the Wilderness
at and And not as an offering to

877
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:56,800
as, as well.
But the, the idea is that all

878
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,100
these, all this unclean, all
this uncleanliness, and sins are

879
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:05,400
basically getting dumped right
in his backyard like on his head

880
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:12,000
and in the scriptures don't
require anything other than it,

881
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,600
be taken out into the
Wilderness, but later on, at

882
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,700
some point, they decided we
really need to do.

883
00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:22,600
Make sure this goat doesn't come
wandering back into Camp, you

884
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,300
know, after a couple of days or
whatever and so they were taken

885
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:29,300
take it out to the Wilderness as
prescribed and then the priest

886
00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:33,900
would basically push it off a
cliff down into a pit, so to

887
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:36,200
speak.
And and to make sure that the go

888
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,600
didn't come back, you know, and
that's got some interesting

889
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,300
parallels to because when Christ
cast out all the demons out of

890
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:44,800
one man and puts them in swine.
Where do the swine go?

891
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,100
Yeah.
They run over the cliff to Cliff

892
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:49,700
and into their death right.
Yep, drowned.

893
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:53,700
But yeah, so there's I mean in
the Revelation Revelation talks

894
00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:59,500
about the bottom of the pit
where it says, bottom of the pit

895
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:02,600
where the demons are kept in
Chains.

896
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:04,500
So long.
So there's definitely some

897
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:10,900
parallels there, right, and
parallels to with we Jesus in

898
00:57:10,900 --> 00:57:14,100
his work.
There's a little echo of of that

899
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,300
where we have the two two goats
as identical as possible.

900
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,300
And one of them gets killed and
the Get set free in this kind of

901
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:26,100
happened with Jesus to raise it
goes to Pilot and they in the

902
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:31,100
for any time, the sacrificial
animals are brought there

903
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:33,600
inspected, they go through a
number of inspections, to make

904
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,700
sure that they are suitable,
right?

905
00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:40,800
We don't want something that has
a twisted Horner of, you know, a

906
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,200
chipped hoof or, you know, any
kind of other blemish Flemish.

907
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,400
Exactly.
So course Jesus goes through

908
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,900
these examinations.
Ins is examined by.

909
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,500
You know, the high priest and by
Pilot and this and the whole

910
00:57:56,500 --> 00:58:02,600
Sanhedrin and and then there's
these two identical or as close

911
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:08,300
as possible.
So goats are presented in Jesus

912
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:10,800
cases, Jesus, and there's
another man.

913
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,400
Another prisoner name is
Barabas, write down the time

914
00:58:14,500 --> 00:58:19,200
Barabbas, EF Barabbas Barabbas.
Yeah, so which that in that name

915
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:26,100
means bar means Is Aramaic for
son and Abba's is father.

916
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:32,500
So you have Jesus and Son of the
father there that the two were

917
00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:35,800
people presented, right?
So they're so there's a course,

918
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,500
Barabbas wasn't actually a bad
guy.

919
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:41,900
He was actually a bad guy, but
but their names are the same,

920
00:58:41,900 --> 00:58:43,200
right?
Yeah, right.

921
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:46,100
And so they're presented in and,
you know, one of them get set

922
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:49,700
free and one of them gets
sacrificed, right?

923
00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:52,500
So So that's kind of beautiful
thing.

924
00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:58,900
Now, the all the feasts and
including Yom Kippur, which is

925
00:58:58,900 --> 00:59:05,200
fast, but they all, they all
have both commemoration part as

926
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,700
part of it.
And also, there are shadows of

927
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:11,400
things to come in the future.
So when we talk about Yom Kippur

928
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,400
the thing that's coming in the
future is the final judgment.

929
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,400
As the end of the days of all,
this is when the books are

930
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,100
closed, this is when the Sheep
are separated from the goats.

931
00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:29,400
and and and all of that, but
when we, when there's as far as

932
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,400
the memorial piece, this
commemorates when Israel

933
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,900
received the law, okay, was on
Yom Kippur and some of your

934
00:59:37,900 --> 00:59:42,600
listeners might think that's a
little strange because They may

935
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:48,800
know that the law was given at
Mount Sinai on or near Shabu.

936
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,300
She's the Feast of Weeks.
It's in the New Testament known

937
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:58,700
as Pentecost.
But the law was given then, but

938
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:03,300
wasn't actually received by
Israel then because we write the

939
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:05,900
whole golden calf thing.
Right there all there at the

940
01:00:05,900 --> 01:00:09,000
mountain, bottom of the mountain
and they hear God's voice.

941
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,400
He comes down, there's the sound
of the shofar, right?

942
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,400
And that the darkness and the
lightning, and the thunder and

943
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,800
fire, and it's a fearful
experience.

944
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:24,400
And they basically tell Moses
you need to To go up to talk to

945
01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:28,200
Jehovah because we're we are, we
can't take it.

946
01:00:28,300 --> 01:00:34,500
It's too much too intense.
So he goes up for 40 days and

947
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:42,100
the first first set of tablets
this is in Exodus chapter 24.

948
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:49,900
First set of tablets says Moses
and Aaron and nadav, and avihu

949
01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:53,600
and 70 of the elders.
They all went up part way, kind

950
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,400
of into the mountain there and
they saw scissors verse 10 of

951
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,400
Exodus 24, they saw the god of
Israel and there was under his

952
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:07,200
feet as it were a paved work of
sapphire stone as it were the

953
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:12,700
body of Heaven in its clearness.
So this beautiful stone and who

954
01:01:12,700 --> 01:01:14,600
has a vision of God's throne
room.

955
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,100
And also sees this is Bluestone
back the throne room and even

956
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:26,800
God's Throne is made of And then
Moses actually went into the

957
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:38,500
went up further.
And And it says, let's see verse

958
01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:41,700
12 and the Lord said unto Moses,
come up, onto me in the mount

959
01:01:41,700 --> 01:01:45,000
and be there, and I will give
the tables of stone and the law

960
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,600
and Commandments, which I have
written that thou mayest teach

961
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:48,900
them.
So, the very first set of

962
01:01:48,908 --> 01:01:51,600
tablets the Lord actually gives
to Moses directly, the Lord

963
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,600
wrote on them with his own
finger.

964
01:01:53,600 --> 01:02:01,100
And, and the only Stone
mentioned, is this Stone that's

965
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:07,200
in the Throne room, this blue
sapphire, it is very likely that

966
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:14,200
the original tablets were blocks
of sapphire stone, which is your

967
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,000
very hard and beautiful.
And the law was written on that

968
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,900
and and Moses ends up breaking
those.

969
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,400
When he comes down and find the
people are all perverting

970
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,400
themselves and worshiping the
golden calf, right?

971
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:33,600
But that that Color blue, which
is mentioned throughout the

972
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:34,300
scriptures.
Right.

973
01:02:34,300 --> 01:02:38,300
The high priest garment for one
is has this red and blue and but

974
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:41,700
those are those are supposed to
remind people of The

975
01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:44,800
Commandments which were
originally on this sapphire

976
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,500
stone or the translation may
also read them lapis lazuli but

977
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:51,100
which is another beautiful blue
stone.

978
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,400
So, they don't, they don't get
the tablets then.

979
01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:00,100
And there's a big, there's a
little, there's a little Civil

980
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:02,900
War, right?
Some of the people are actually

981
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:07,500
killed there, right by the
Levites who are remain faithful.

982
01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:15,700
And Aaron Escape somehow but
he's very repentant.

983
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,300
And so, but Moses says, I need
to go back up into the mount.

984
01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:23,900
So, now that first time, when he
goes up in the mountain, he's

985
01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:28,800
fasting forty days and he goes,
he turns around right after that

986
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:33,200
and goes right back up for 40
more days and it's fasting and

987
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,100
pleading with the Lord to
intercede, and he is where he

988
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:39,900
says, you know if you If
someone's gonna be blotted out

989
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:45,200
of The Book of Life block me
out, save them and and he has a

990
01:03:45,207 --> 01:03:46,700
little discussion back and forth
with the Lord.

991
01:03:46,700 --> 01:03:53,900
And finally, the Lord says, I'll
will, I will forgive them and

992
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,900
because of your intercession.
So really beautiful thing there

993
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:03,000
and then then the scriptures say
that Moses after that stays for

994
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,700
another 40 Days fasting.
And this time, he gets the

995
01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:10,800
tablets.
But God says, you're going to

996
01:04:10,808 --> 01:04:13,900
need to start chiseling.
Like you need to write these,

997
01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:17,600
you are going to write on these
Exodus. 34 says you write on

998
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,100
these.
Everything that was on the last

999
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:23,100
ones - the higher and I are
long.

1000
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,500
I'm going to says I'm going to
give them and they're still

1001
01:04:25,500 --> 01:04:27,800
going to be my people.
I'm going to I'm going to give

1002
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:33,000
them the lower stuff which was
on the first tablets, but we're

1003
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,200
going to withhold the priest and
so it's like you said there is

1004
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,800
forgiveness, but there's still
consequences.

1005
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:41,800
Yeah, yeah.
I think so often and it really

1006
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,800
jumped out at me.
The last time I went through the

1007
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:50,900
Old Testament often we look at
Moses, the lawgiver right?

1008
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:56,100
Which he was absolutely But for
whatever reason, we tend to

1009
01:04:56,100 --> 01:05:04,600
forget that Moses is constantly,
you know, advocating for the

1010
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,500
children of Israel.
Constantly, there are several

1011
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:09,300
times for the Lord's, like I'm
done.

1012
01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:12,600
I can't, you know, I can't work
with them and it takes Moses

1013
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:13,700
going on.
Hold on.

1014
01:05:13,700 --> 01:05:16,900
What?
You know, how about this, right?

1015
01:05:16,900 --> 01:05:21,500
And and the Lord in several
times, the Lord says, for your

1016
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:24,000
sake Moses?
Yeah, for your sake.

1017
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,100
I'll work with him more, but
we're going to do this now,

1018
01:05:28,300 --> 01:05:31,900
right?
And, and it's so interesting to

1019
01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:37,200
me that somehow, Moses humanity
and love gets lost a little bit.

1020
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,400
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.

1021
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,900
I think that there's this
conception about Moses and about

1022
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:50,100
the whole law about that.
It's all just very harsh, right?

1023
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:56,800
When in fact there is plenty,
plenty of mercy and forgiveness

1024
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,500
throughout the Old Testament to,
but it's also adults also not

1025
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:04,300
pulling any punches about how
serious got is about having a

1026
01:06:04,300 --> 01:06:06,600
holy people.
Yeah, you know, and that's the

1027
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:13,700
one thing that I think we lose
as Mormons or Christians Is just

1028
01:06:13,700 --> 01:06:18,400
how rich that symbolism was.
I I mean I have one friend who

1029
01:06:19,300 --> 01:06:23,500
is Jewish, who tells me?
We'll never have milk at the

1030
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:28,600
same meal when we have meet and
I was like well why is that?

1031
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,600
He's like, you never mix life
and death ever and it's that

1032
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,700
sort of symbolism and richness
that I think we could really

1033
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:40,100
benefit from as a people?
Yeah, there's a is a, is a very

1034
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:43,100
rich culture of Symbolism and
tradition.

1035
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:48,000
Yep.
Now so so Moses fast.

1036
01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:52,500
Three consecutive sets of 40
days.

1037
01:06:53,500 --> 01:07:01,200
And so when you, when you count
those off, From the Feast of

1038
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:07,800
Weeks or shovel load, you will
be the first to 80 Days. 80 days

1039
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,600
will bring you to the beginning
of the sixth month.

1040
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,100
And then 40 days will take you
through the six month, which is

1041
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:19,700
June 30 days issue and and then
ten days into the seventh month

1042
01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:22,600
and you will land right on Yom
Kippur.

1043
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:28,500
So, this is, this is, this is
part of the Of Yom Kippur part

1044
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:32,300
of the remembrance, is that this
is when we actually received

1045
01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:35,300
God's word, right?
Moses brings down these tablets

1046
01:07:35,700 --> 01:07:39,000
these endure.
These are what gets put into the

1047
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,300
Ark of the Covenant, we have
these stone tablets in this

1048
01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:46,400
golden box.
And now I'm going to tie it into

1049
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:49,900
the restoration because we have
we have some interesting things

1050
01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:53,700
to say about these as well.
So last time, we talked about

1051
01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:57,800
the coming forth of the Book of
Mormon Now Joseph received, I

1052
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:03,500
mean, Joseph went to a gold box
and sent a stone box right?

1053
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:08,100
And got right, a Golden Plates
golden record which is

1054
01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:10,100
interesting because it's kind of
the inverse.

1055
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:13,700
Yeah.
And that was on the Feast of

1056
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:17,399
trumpets for Rosh Hashanah and
but of course, people were at

1057
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:20,100
people knew about the plates
coming forth, right?

1058
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:22,700
Knew that Joseph was getting
close to getting them and people

1059
01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:25,899
were watching him and so on.
So as soon as he Mm.

1060
01:08:25,899 --> 01:08:30,500
He did not take them home and
historical records says that he

1061
01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:35,700
hid them in the woods for 10
days and then which is the same

1062
01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:38,899
tension a period between Russia
Hashanah and yeah.

1063
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:45,500
So when Joseph actually actually
got the plates so that he could

1064
01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:50,500
start reading them and have them
to start working on them, that

1065
01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:54,300
was also on Kapoor.
So that's another thing that we

1066
01:08:54,300 --> 01:08:56,500
can win.
Yom Kippur comes.

1067
01:08:56,500 --> 01:08:59,100
We can think about think about
that as well.

1068
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,800
Wow, so beautiful things.
You know, and I supposed to a

1069
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:09,500
certain extent, Joseph does his
work of translating unseen.

1070
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,500
He does.
Yeah, and he is, he is the high

1071
01:09:14,500 --> 01:09:15,399
priest?
Yeah.

1072
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:20,399
In right.
He has, he has the breastplate

1073
01:09:20,500 --> 01:09:21,800
of the year and thummim.
Yeah.

1074
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,700
So he's almost fulfilling that
kind of, again, in a way where

1075
01:09:25,700 --> 01:09:30,899
he's not seeing, right?
We've all seen the pictures of

1076
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:34,800
the, the curtain, the curtain or
whatever and no one else sees it

1077
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,200
for a while.
They end up seeing it, you know,

1078
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,800
the witnesses at the end but no
one sees the work.

1079
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,300
Yeah, right.
Which is an interesting parallel

1080
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:47,899
as well, that's good.
So last thing I'll say I guess

1081
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,800
about this is we've covered a
lot of the points really well,

1082
01:09:52,899 --> 01:09:57,400
but I will say one other thing I
forgot doesn't mention good

1083
01:09:57,900 --> 01:10:01,600
during those during the ten for
Yom Kippur basically we do we

1084
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,200
just have a we just have a
Sabbath, it's not going to it's

1085
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,500
not on the Sabbath whenever that
happens during the week.

1086
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:11,700
So we'll take a rental have a
rest day and just be a day of

1087
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:15,000
reading is traditional to read
the Book of Jonah, okay?

1088
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,100
On Yom Kippur Cuz that's all
about repentance, right?

1089
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:21,500
Not really known as repentance
but Nineveh and about and about

1090
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,900
the mercy that were talking
about Jonas, kind of upset, the

1091
01:10:23,900 --> 01:10:25,500
God's merciful, right?
Yeah.

1092
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,200
And was like, what would you
rather take that city?

1093
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,200
Is full of people for my
children.

1094
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:35,400
Aren't I'm so much happier that
they repented than that.

1095
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:40,300
I had to destroy that like I'd
rather Spare that.

1096
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,800
So so read the Book of Jonah and
during those days of all we're

1097
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,900
also going to get together and
do baptisms and that's going to

1098
01:10:49,907 --> 01:10:53,300
be on October 2nd which is a
Sunday.

1099
01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:57,600
You're going to meet at 3 p.m.
at Willow Park in Lehi.

1100
01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:02,000
It's right on the right on the
banks of the Jordan River there.

1101
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,600
And so these are not going to be
baptisms.

1102
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,600
You have to join any group or
any way that these are just for

1103
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:14,600
to Into just renew your
commitment, get on God's side,

1104
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,100
get on God's side.
I like that.

1105
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:19,600
It's our slogan for this
episode, right?

1106
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Get on God's side.
Yeah, so that's gonna be a

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3-piece 10.
And then we'll, we'll probably

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have a sacrament meeting stuff
after that, for anyone who's

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interested on now, when exactly
Yom Kippur is, is going to

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depend on whether or not we see
the new moon, right?

1111
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:41,100
And where I'm we're planning on
that.

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This is something now the 25th.
So we're planning on, we're

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hoping to see it tomorrow.
Evening if we don't then it will

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it will be.
It will certainly be the

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following day.
So so Yom Kippur is going to be

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either, you know, October 6th or
7th.

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And so we usually get together
and have kind of break the fast,

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nice after that.
And so, they'll be information

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about that on the website
holding on the Facebook page

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yet, so it should say.
So, Awesome.

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So real quick, and then you kind
of mentioned it before two

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questions.
Before we wrap this up I have As

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a believer in the restored
gospel, a Mormon, how do you

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celebrate Yom Kippur?
It's well, there's a couple

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things we have.
I mentioned last time we have

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these YouTube playlist, right?
So, we have songs and short

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01:12:44,900 --> 01:12:47,700
little messages about Yom Kippur
that we that we play.

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01:12:48,300 --> 01:12:51,600
And we'll start, we'll start
playing those as soon as.

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01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,400
The shine is over the place,
right?

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So it kind of gets us into the
mood, thinking about these

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01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,600
things thinking about the work
that high priests had ancient

1132
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,200
Lee thinking about the work that
Jesus did is our high priest

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01:13:03,700 --> 01:13:08,300
thinking about the Book of
Mormon, the Golden Plates, the

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01:13:08,300 --> 01:13:10,100
thinking about judgment such
coming.

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Think about my relationships
with my family, why is my

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01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:21,800
children my neighbor's my little
brothers and sisters both

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Literally and, you know,
brothers and sisters in the

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gospel and what can I do to make
things, right?

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Because they're nearing, there
have been people that I have

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01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:34,000
offended.
There have been ways that I have

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01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,000
been even if not intentional.
There's times when I've been

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01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:43,300
careless, right?
And times when I've taken for

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01:13:43,300 --> 01:13:46,400
granted my relationship with God
and my relationship with my

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01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:50,500
fellowmen in one way or another.
And so it's time for

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01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:52,900
introspection and for He knows
things, right?

1146
01:13:53,000 --> 01:14:00,500
Apologizing to people.
Coming to state of Oneness.

1147
01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:06,800
That moment atonement with both
man and God, then my last

1148
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:11,300
question, how do you feel going
into Yom Kippur versus coming

1149
01:14:11,300 --> 01:14:13,500
out of it?
Oh, that's a good question.

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01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,300
Yeah, going in.
It's very it's a somber thing

1151
01:14:18,100 --> 01:14:20,100
like scriptures say like you're
not supposed to do anything

1152
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:23,300
except afflict your souls and
then you just hope and you have

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01:14:23,300 --> 01:14:25,300
faith on the work that the high
priestess do.

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01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:32,900
And, and And there's there's a
sense of anticipation but then

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01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,600
when it's finished, the work is
done.

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01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,000
The work on the high priest is
done.

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01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:44,100
Then there's an atmosphere of
Celebration, we have our our

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01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:49,200
break, the fast, and it's a,
it's a It's a jubilant ton.

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01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:53,500
So so going in, it's a somber
and coming out is joyful, and

1160
01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:59,400
that's kind of the way.
The atonement is too fearful

1161
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,800
trembling going in, but then
when it's done, it's finished,

1162
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:05,300
then there's nothing to do but
Rejoice about it.

1163
01:15:05,300 --> 01:15:08,100
Yeah, absolutely red.
That's kind of a feeling of

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01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:10,400
renewal.
Yeah, awesome.

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01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,300
Yeah.
And that it is that so awesome.

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01:15:13,700 --> 01:15:15,700
All right.
Josh, you're the man, your

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01:15:15,700 --> 01:15:18,600
stead, I always appreciate
cockatoo you I love it.

1168
01:15:18,700 --> 01:15:19,800
It's great.
Thank you for having me.

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01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,800
All right, next one is
Tabernacles right, correct.

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01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:24,900
All right.
Look forward to talk to you,

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01:15:24,900 --> 01:15:25,900
then bye everybody.