Episode #38: (ATTENTION PARENTS) The Dark Root Of The Public Education System W/Russ Barlow

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Just the day before.
Thanksgiving, my buddy sent me a

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news article that told the story
of an elementary school in

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California, who had authorized
an after-school club for

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satanists?
Let me say that again, an

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elementary after school club for
Satanist.

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I found the timing of this
article interesting because just

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a few days before that I had a
conversation with Russ Barlow

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about the state of public
education.

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Now, for those who haven't
listened to rest his first time

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on the podcast, Last, I'd
encourage you to go back and

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listen to episode number 35.
Now on this episode rest and I

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take a deep dive on how modern
education has got to the point.

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It has in regards to
indoctrinating our children as

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Russ and I explore the origins
of public education.

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There are many points at which I
get freaked the Hell Out on Just

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how evil and Insidious.
The design was by 3/4 of the way

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into our conversation.
You will no longer be wondering

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how a story like the one I
mentioned earlier can happen in

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public education, but here's the
good news at the very end of Of

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our conversation.
Rest gives a very candid answer

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on what we can do as parents to
save our children.

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Well I'm back again with with
Russ borrow.

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And after our first episode
which was just absolutely

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phenomenal.
I had a great time talking to

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Russ and I'm not even a science
guy but once Russ and I talked,

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I found myself diving headfirst
into a lot of stuff because he

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just kind of helped open that
door for me.

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So to me that first episode was
amazing and I got a lot of

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reviews off of it.
And Towards the end after we had

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stopped recording.
Russ had shown me, something

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talk to me a little.
Something about a presentation

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that he had given about
education in America and the

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church.
And as he talked about it, not

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only could I feel his passion
for it, but I really felt the

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spirit kind of move that that
this is important, and this

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needs to get out there.
And so, that's what we're doing

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this time.
We're going to To talk about

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what's going on in the
educational system, in America

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and how its faltering, but I
think more important than that,

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is that Russ actually provides
Solutions.

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He doesn't just point out the
problem, he points to Solutions

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and that is, that's pretty
refreshing in today's day and

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age.
So Russ, I'm so happy to have

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you back on.
Thanks for making time for me

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again, man.
You know, I appreciate it and

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I'm hoping that we get to do
this again.

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Because I know I've had a lot of
people asked me to take the

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science a little bit further,
talk about things like age of

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the Earth, and carbon dating
always comes up.

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How do we deal with carbon
dating or other radiometric

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dating?
So we get to talk about that

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sometime in the future.
They've Absolutely i.r.s., I'll

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be honest with you.
I told you this before, and I

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mean it, once you've been on.
Once you have a standing

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invitation to come back on
whenever you want, and I'm more

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than game for it, I'll make all
sorts of time to talk about.

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This stuff with you.
Right on.

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Well today I appreciate you
inviting me because what I want

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to talk about it seems like it's
a bit of a departure from

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science but it's actually not.
It kind of brings it all to

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together.
And what I mean by that is we've

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got education, we've got science
and we've got Covenant path and

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we've got the gospel and kind of
all tied together and it's and I

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think when we get through this,
you'll see some interesting ties

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and how it works.
This comes from a presentation,

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That I gave at the Book of
Mormon Expo, and and I found it

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interesting because I was kind
of pottery and praying about

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what message I should give the
word that kept coming to mind

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was apostasy and both in
America, and in the church.

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And I don't know, this isn't
directed any leadership.

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This is directed at us as a
people, and I'm just as much a

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part of that too.
Is this apostasy is, is that we

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have allowed things to come into
our homes.

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We've taught our children and
we've done things, we sort of

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set ourselves.
Zup to be the apostate

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generation because we either
haven't known or we willfully

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kind of turned against some of
the Gospel that we know is very

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true.
So now, it seems like I'm being

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a little harsh, but I think when
we get through this today,

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you'll see and I, hopefully will
share some thoughts that people

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can make some changes in their
own homes, and, and start this

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turn.
Get us turned around to the

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basic foundations of the, of the
Gospel.

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You know, I think I think that's
great and I'm with you.

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I don't think this is anything
that I think parents did

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knowingly, right?
I think this is something that

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probably, I'll be honest.
I probably been guilty of it

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myself, right?
I mean, I remember there was a

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time that my wife actually came
to me and said, you know, we

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need to start prioritizing here
a little bit because we're

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involved in all this stuff and
none of it's bad, right?

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It's taking kids.
He's here to this activity or

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or, you know, we got football
practice over here, or whatever

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it was, but it was just too
much.

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And what we found is that we
were losing that time with our

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kids.
And I think that's a lot of what

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parents face now is that in
order to try to make their kids

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well-rounded or whatever the
case is, we just bog ourselves

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down and we don't have time to
really connect as a family,

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right?
And we've actually let outside

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influences sort of dictate to
What family is and that's

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including school.
And I would even go so far.

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As to say that we farmed out our
religion.

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When we send our kids off to
primary or young men and young

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woman's, we've sort of sent them
away to be taught by someone

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else.
Now that someone else may be

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well intended, and they may even
be very spiritual but it's

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still.
We're sending our kids away

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rather than taking the
responsibility of ourselves that

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is not to say.
We shouldn't participate in the

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things that our churches are
doing in the things that we

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should be.
Be involved in those, but we

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should literally be involved.
Meaning us, be there.

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Be a part know.
What's going on teaching?

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Our children be much more active
in it.

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Let's get it.
Let's start with first Nephi and

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this is where Lehigh has a
during most people that have

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read the book of Mormon are
going to be really familiar with

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this, right?
So, this is where Lehi says, I

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beheld a great and spacious
building and it stood, as it

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were in, the are high above the
Earth.

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This is the thing that we kind
of look over because we see that

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they're scoffing in there and
they're old and young and male

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and female and their manner of
dress was exceedingly fine.

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And they were in the attitude of
mocking and pointing their

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fingers.
Towards those who are poor

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taking of the fruit that Lehi
had seen.

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They were, he was at the tree
eating the fruit and so were

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other people.
And he was looking for his

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family and the building that he
saw is a building with Of

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foundation.
It's built in the air.

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It doesn't have a solid
foundation but the people in it

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are there mocking.
And then he says this, he says

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after they tasted of the fruit,
they were ashamed and they fell

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away into forbidden paths.
What really he was saying is

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that they're embarrassed and
that's what's happened to a lot

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of our kids today is they're
embarrassed because they're

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their friends start talking
about Evolution.

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If They were to come to school
and say Evolution isn't true.

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They'd be mocked if they were to
come and say the Earth is a

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water earth, oh my goodness,
they say that.

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Even in our own churches, my son
was at his in church.

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Sharing his ideas about that.
The Earth was exactly as it was

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in Genesis.
He had every single kid and the

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teachers mock him for that at
church at church.

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Oh, that's supposed to be the
Refuge, right?

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I mean that's nice.
That's To be the place you go

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where you can just kind of
exhale and kind of you know, to

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use the woke stirs term.
Feel a little safe, right?

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Well the bottom line is is it
should be a place especially

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when you have somebody that
says, hey, the scriptures are

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true.
Exactly what said and to mock

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them to, you know, tease them,
make them feel dumb.

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And that's they did and I have
one of my older Sons went to

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college and he had me we do a
presentation about a lot of a

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science.
It's related to the universal

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model to his in-laws who are
very highly educated people and

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they mocked him so mercilessly
that he just kind of crumbled.

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And just I mean, since that day,
he's felt bad and he he's

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supportive of me, but he just
thinks that it's I'm a crackpot

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because it's not, it's not real
science.

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And, you know, this is really
opened my eyes a lot.

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And I've kind of started a
journey a little bit and that is

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to see.
And first Nephi after Lehigh has

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this Vision Nephi asks, the he
can see the same vision and that

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whole series starts in me,
firstly, by chapter 11 and it's

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covers four chapters.
And one of those chapters

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chapter 13, it talks about the
formation of America and we can

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see the Book of Mormon coming
forth and we see the man, And

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wrought upon the comes across
the many Waters.

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We recognize that guy's being
Columbus.

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So those are kind of things that
we just accept.

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But it starts out by saying,
thou seest the formation of a

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great church that is most
abominable above all other

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churches.
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restoration of the Gospel, is
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Church.
They're forming side by side.

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Things are happening.
And if we Trace modern education

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back to its roots, it actually.
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university system and you
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high school and rivalries we had
against our high schools, right?

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Yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely started because
of the way they divided people

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in the universities and they
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each other and the whole thing
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with the universities and even

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today, High School sort of model
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college, or university of
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Del Sol, They have the same
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the University of Southern
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USC.
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And so you know that that's
what's happening is our high

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schools are sort of modeled
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down to the cap and gown in the
robes, you know, so we're just

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kind of training them into this.
But if we talk about how it's

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related to the gospel, let me
tell you a story about this guy

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right here, Nathaniel Hawthorne
now Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote

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The Scarlet Letter.
Letter.

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And if you've gone to public
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years, you had to read that book
because that was required

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reading usually for high school
and if not college that you had

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to read and make some kind of
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okay, why this particular book
well Nathaniel Hawthorne was

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born in Salem Massachusetts.
He's actually the descended on

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both sides of Puritan stock, but
he hated the Puritans he hated

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his Puritan Christian
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His third, great grandfather,
arrived in 1630 and his second

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great-grandfather was one of the
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trials, that judged the witches
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but the bottom line is that he
hated that association with what

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his father had done and what it
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Now there was this was a pretty
crazy time and so there's no

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doubt there was a lot of things
that was being told but what

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ultimately Emily.
Stop The Witch Trials, were the

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Puritan pastors.
They're the ones that said, this

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is not biblical and they put a
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reasons.
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I remember reading a about that
that that somehow that fact gets

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conveniently left out of the
narrative, right?

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Is that it was it was biblical
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Who came forward and said this
has got to stop.

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You guys are Are all wet on
this, on this issue.

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Bedtime Nathaniel he hated the
Puritan ideology and he

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described Cotton Mather.
Now Cotton Mather, that was kind

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of an interesting name, right?
He's the son of a man named

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increase increased married a
woman with the last name cotton

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and that's why they named their
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So Cotton Mather, but he was a
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this incredible book, that was
the dealings of Of Christ in

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America.
And it's truly, it's a really

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thick book, it's hard to read
because it's a lot of words and

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it talked about the gloriousness
of all the things that happened

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and how God's hand was in
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Well, Nathaniel Hawthorne hated
cotton, men, other to the point

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where he called him a
bloodthirsty mannequin, to the

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Devil Himself.
So it's this was a guy that

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really disliked his Puritan
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So they're not trading like
Christmas cards back and forth

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then him and cotton her on a
cotton have there was is clear

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back in the 1600s so he's dead
but he had the most influence.

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Okay.
This Christian ideology and

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Nathaniel Hawthorne and he's
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The same time it was Joseph
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Great hello 1804 so he's he's
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Joseph Smith.
Well what's interesting here is

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that he tells his mother he says
I'm Going to be a writer writes

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a letter.
And he wrote in his letter.

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Authors are always poor devils
and therefore Satan may take

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them and maybe that was a little
for telling ya that that that's

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a lot for telling ya.
So your this is what happens is

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that he he ends up dating, or
which himself he allows his wife

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to visit a medium, not me.
You might think.

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Oh, that's where, what do you
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He allows well in, S you know
women did what their husbands

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asked them to do.
And so for him to for her to go

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to a medium and a necromancer
that so like a wizard or Roy,

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you know, that was with his
permission his Blessing.

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So he's kind of in this witch's
medium spiritualist, kind of a

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thing and his oldest daughter
was a medium.

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Now, this is the same era as
what Joseph Smith was growing up

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in and there have been An
anti-mormon.

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We're going to get to this
writings that tried to make

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Joseph a part of this counter
Christian World of Magic and and

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necromancy and the medium and
that kind of stuff and it's

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totally false.
It's a way of trying to take one

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world view and just because
Joseph grow grew up in an area

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that that something that was
going on, they tried to make him

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be part of that.
But just like we grow up in our

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world.
Today we there are definitely

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things that we're not a part of
but are happening concurrently

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with our own growing up, you
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So you know Russ I want to just
interject here real quick.

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It's interesting that you bring
this up right now because I'm

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actually reading a book called
Karl Marx in the Devil by Paul

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Kang Gore.
And it's interesting that in

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this time period because, you
know, marks is coming up About

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the same time as Joseph Smith,
right little older, but, you

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know, they were around
essentially the same time.

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Now, Marx, didn't get get
popular, so to speak till well,

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after his death.
But what I find interesting is

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that at the same time you got
Joseph Smith coming up and

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restoring the gospel.
It seems that on the flip side

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you have darkness Rising as
well.

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Richard if you'll hold your
thought on him he's a part of

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this whole discussion.
Okay sir It's totally.

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Okay, I'm going to set the stage
so that when you get to him

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you're going to see something.
We often think of Marx is

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communism, but I'm going to show
you how else he fits in to this

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world view that we're that we're
going to talk about right here.

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Okay.
Okay anyway so just to kind of

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really recapitulate your to
recap what we've seen here is

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that Cotton Mather, he writes
this work called Magnolia

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Christie Americana and it's the
Glorious works of Christ in

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America.
Ah and the Faneuil Hawthorne

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hates this guy because of he's
literally going to try to

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divorce us from our Christian
Roots in this book that he's

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going to publish in 1850.
Okay, so this is actually just

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20 years.
After the Book of Mormons

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published, it's only 17 years
after the Bible has been

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published and it's only six
years after Joseph has been

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martyred.
So this is the timeframe.

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This is the area that that all
this is going on.

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Now it's also interesting that
he was born in 1804 justi just a

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year older than Joseph Smith and
Joseph actually and Sidney

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Rigdon was some friends go back
to Salem Massachusetts where I

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lived probably right while he's
in the middle of writing this

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and they're looking for
treasure.

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That somebody said is in an old
house kind of like people look

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for Spanish treasure so they go
there they don't find any

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treasure in the Lord.
Gives them a revelation that

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says there is much treasure to
be found in this city.

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Well, it turns out that treasure
is his ancestry.

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It says where the Smith ancestry
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So, there are two things going
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You've got this Blood of Israel
returning.

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And then you've got the rise of
the The spiritualists and

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witches and things are happening
and that's all we think of

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today.
We think of which is when we

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think of Salem, we don't think
so much of Joseph Smith and his

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ancestry, right?
That's Satan's way of twisting

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that upright.
So Nathaniel Hawthorne publishes

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this book but he says he writes
this book.

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He said as if under compulsion
and called it a health hell

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fired story, he wrote the whole
book in 19 days.

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Wow.
So what's the theme of This

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book, okay, the theme it's built
around adultery, its primary

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theme is guilt and sin.
Now, the story is that a Puritan

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Minister named Dimmesdale has an
affair with a married woman and

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she gets pregnant.
She's going to have a baby so

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through the course of this he
spent seven years just torturing

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himself feeling terrible and he
finally confesses not to Christ

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not so much as a confessional to
as But more of just a confession

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to admit and then she later on,
she just wears her Scarlet.

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A that's what the Scarlet.
Letter is the a for adultery.

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She just kind of wears it
proudly and talks about how it's

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too bad that her daughter has to
suffer this slight.

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But, you know, she's not going
to even hide it anymore.

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She's going to be proud of her
adultery and so, what it does is

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it kind of breaks apart.
What it means to have, Have the

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atonement and what it means to
be Christian.

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And and so there's sin and guilt
and, and admission and

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confession.
And but nothing to return

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nothing to re to reclaim the
soul.

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No atonement.
It's a break it apart.

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Yeah, it's there's no atonement.
So, you might say, well, what

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what does that matter?
Why does that matter?

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The reason is books change
society, Right.

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The written word.
It always has books change

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society and because this has
been required reading whether we

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know exactly what its underlying
message is.

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We have been taught the ideas of
what is in The Scarlet Letter as

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our foundational ideas of what
puritanism and Pilgrim ism is.

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And we thought of them as stodgy
as being too harsh as being

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looking down there knows and you
know, not treating people,

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right?
But this is the whole thing that

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he wanted to twist around and do
that.

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And here's the thing is that I
was reading a book the other day

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and it says no single
publication of any genre has

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been so effective at severing, a
nation from its Christian

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Heritage.
That's what the author Kevin's

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want to the wrote in his book,
about this one book.

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And so, what is he implying?
He's fixated on the demon world

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through his whole life.
Hawthorne is.

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And he's also he's implying that
witchcraft homosexuality,

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adultery and incest is more
acceptable than what the

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Puritans were standing for what
they taught.

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So that was his method is to say
all these things are more

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acceptable than our Puritan
ancestors.

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So you might ask yourself, can a
bitter Fountain?

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Bring forth?
Good water?

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No.
No, I here's the next book.

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Have you ever heard of that
book?

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Oh yeah.
Yeah, popular book, right right?

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But worst 1851 Herman Melville.
The author of Moby.

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Dick writes this letter to
Nathaniel Hawthorne and he says

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I have written a wicked book
Myself by the same rushing

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demon, that affected Hawthorne,
geez.

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Uh-oh.
I feel like these are the

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classics, right?
Right.

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And so and Herman, Melville's
born in New York in 1819, he's

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the same kind of.
This is the same era right there

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are all of these things that are
considered are Classics that are

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the foundation of all of our
literature in the school system.

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So we've got that.
How about this guy right here

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though?
Mark Twain.

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You've heard of him.
Yeah.

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Yeah Mark Twain's born in 1835.
So this is just five years after

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the church has been organized.
This is still nine years before,

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Joseph is martyred, so he's not
really kind of on the scene when

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Joseph is on the scene, but he
does meet Brigham Young later.

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But let's hold off to that just
for a minute because let's talk

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about Mark Twain, right?
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer or

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Huck Finn.
I'm sure you've read that book

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to most of us.
It's on our shelves.

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Now I'm what I'm not really
trying to say here is that every

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piece of literature and
everything that we've ever read

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is bad, but it's just a way of
opening our eyes to this kind of

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00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:27,600
foundation of what we've taught
our children.

451
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,100
And a lot of times we want to
homeschool our kids but then we

452
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:34,100
bring them in and we homeschool
them the same things that the

453
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:36,200
schools.
Teaching thinking we're going to

454
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,600
give them a better education and
all we're doing is teaching them

455
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,800
the same Foundation of this kind
of anti-christian anti

456
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:50,300
foundational, you know, work
when we think of the classics or

457
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:54,600
Classic Education and I just
want to bring attention to it.

458
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,100
So that we are a little more
careful about thinking that just

459
00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:01,200
turning to the classics, is the
right way to go.

460
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:04,600
So Tom Sawyer Mark Twain's a
lovable fun guy.

461
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,800
Right Mark.
Twain's probably the most well

462
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,900
known of all the authors and
that's, you know, that's great,

463
00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:14,800
except there's things to know
about him height.

464
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,200
Now, he does visit the Mormons
in Salt Lake City, actually

465
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,900
comes to Salt Lake City in 1872
with his brother Orion.

466
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,400
So he has a brother named her
eye.

467
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,200
On this is Ryan Clemens because
his name Samuel Clemens even

468
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,500
though it goes by Mark Twain,
it's a Ryan.

469
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:33,800
Clemens goes to Salt Lake with
him and he visits with Brigham

470
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,800
Young and Tries to get Brigham
Young to laugh, but he doesn't,

471
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,600
and after the meeting, Brigham
Young's large hand gets on top

472
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,200
of Twain's head.
And he says, to Twain's brother

473
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,300
Ayaan.
He says, I your child, I presume

474
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,100
boy or girl.
Yeah, I remember hearing that

475
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:54,600
story.
Yeah, it was, it was kind of a

476
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,200
fun exchange their.
This kind of like gentle slap me

477
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,300
in the face.
Yeah, right.

478
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:04,600
And so, let's get back to that
there.

479
00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:07,300
We go.
So for most of his life Mark

480
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:10,200
Twain has cloak his atheism and
humor.

481
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:14,400
Okay, so he was a Christian and
a lot of these guys were born in

482
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,200
Christian backgrounds.
They were, they're very

483
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,800
knowledgeable about it because
they grew up in it and then they

484
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,200
just weren't themselves and he
was an atheist.

485
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,100
And so he mocked Christianity.
He mocked everything about

486
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:30,600
Christianity.
And and the dysfunctional

487
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,700
elements, he called him, And so,
you know, it was just kind of

488
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:35,900
secret.
That's what he did.

489
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:41,300
So in 18 or by 1906 in his
biography Mark Twain reveals a

490
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:43,700
complete break with the
Christian faith.

491
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,100
He told his publisher tomorrow.
I mean, to dictate a chapter,

492
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:51,000
which will get my heirs and
assigns burned alive.

493
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,200
If they ventured a printed this
side of AD 2006, You know,

494
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,100
that's that's remarkably close
to a date, you know what I mean?

495
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:02,800
I mean, that's where we are,
right?

496
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,400
Yeah, holy cow.
I it really bugs me that he was

497
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,300
that prophetic about it.
So we actually did try to

498
00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:14,600
publish it that there were those
to try to publish back in the

499
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,000
1920s, but the publishing
houses, wouldn't they did

500
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,000
finally publish it in the 1860s?
Okay?

501
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,600
Okay.
He's, he's a talented writer.

502
00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:30,200
Writer his writing is fantastic,
but he's also a clever liar.

503
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,100
So, you know, he was like Satan.
He's just a very clever liar.

504
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,800
He hated God and he wrote his
school, he wrote his story to

505
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,700
the school aged masses to help
them in their own apostasy.

506
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:45,600
That's kind of the whole thrust
of it.

507
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,900
And when, you know a lot of
people have disagree over, you

508
00:29:48,908 --> 00:29:52,100
know, Huck Finn's a great story.
And so is Tom, Sawyer and they

509
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,200
are some really interesting and
fun things to read about that.

510
00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:00,600
But he really reveals what he
was about when he starts talking

511
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,500
about the Bible.
He says, it's the most damn

512
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:06,100
Natori biography that exist in
print anywhere and he referred

513
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:08,800
to God as repulsive vindictive
and malignant.

514
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,800
Hmm, and then in 1909, he
transcribes, what he calls a

515
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,000
message from Satan himself and
titles, it letters.

516
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,200
Okay, so this is right before he
dies, he has he comes clean, he

517
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,700
admits where he really is and he
dictates this message, he said

518
00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:34,600
it was from Satan himself and in
it, he said the Bible is a

519
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,600
blood-drenched history, a wealth
of obscenity and upwards of a

520
00:30:37,608 --> 00:30:44,000
thousand lies.
Wow, this book is consciously

521
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,000
evil and in it.
He exhorts women to the high

522
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:55,700
privileges of unlimited adultery
Again, ask yourself can a bitter

523
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:57,900
Fountain?
Bring forth.

524
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,200
Good water.
Now he was This Bitter Fountain

525
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,600
through his whole life but it
was couched and hidden in his

526
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,200
atheism and his hate for God and
His disdain was carefully hidden

527
00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:14,000
but he was there, that was his
point.

528
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:18,300
Now, Hawthorne mocked
Christianity, but Twain

529
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:22,500
unashamedly bashed every symbol
and sacrament of the Christian

530
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:26,100
faith.
That's that was his attack.

531
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,900
Overtly on top of and if you
read Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer,

532
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,800
you'll see how it's a mockery of
that Christianity and 19th

533
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,400
century Christianity, that's
what it is.

534
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,700
Whole thing was about.
Now, there were lots of other

535
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,200
writers, lots of human atheist
influences Literature Like

536
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,600
Nathaniel Hawthorne Herman
Melville.

537
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,500
Those are a couple Ralph Waldo,
Emerson John Steinbeck, Walt

538
00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:55,600
Whitman.
These guys all had their thing

539
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,500
that they were doing they were
All writing and they were trying

540
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:03,200
to normalize homosexuality, they
were trying to normalize

541
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,500
adultery and all of the things
like, in Herman Melville, we

542
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:10,100
didn't talk about this when we
talked about Moby, Dick, what's

543
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:14,000
its underlying theme?
It's Revenge, it's Revenge to

544
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,400
the point that you, you destroy
everything and everyone in your

545
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,900
life.
And so, all of those is kind of

546
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:25,600
normalizing and actually
glorifying the sin that we're

547
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,700
supposed to be trying.
To overcome.

548
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:35,800
So in all what kingdom are these
authors building and when we

549
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:39,100
damn, what kingdom are we
supporting?

550
00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:44,900
Yeah, the adversaries.
All right, you mentioned this

551
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:48,500
guy.
Karl Marx.

552
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:56,200
Yeah, he's such a just such a
jovial guy and he Karl Marx is a

553
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,000
Christian, he's born in 1818.
So again, if we just put it in

554
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,100
context, he's born just 13 years
after Joseph Smith.

555
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:08,200
This is kind of now, he's not in
America's he's not knowing

556
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,000
what's going on here.
But he's, this is the same time

557
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,500
frame and he has a profound
effect on the world and

558
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:17,200
indirectly.
He brought about out the deaths

559
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,600
of more people and probably
anyone else in history.

560
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000
Yeah.
And he ambushed this book,

561
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:27,300
Communist Manifesto was
published in 1848.

562
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,400
You see the cotton, see how
these things are kind of all

563
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,400
together.
Yet in that timeframe.

564
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Yep.
So Marx had an impact on the

565
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,000
actual events as well as on the
minds of men and women more than

566
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,300
any other intellectual in modern
times.

567
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:49,000
And he was a writer and he was a
playwright, he loved the artist.

568
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,500
He was a Lutheran turned
atheist, he glorified in his

569
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:58,400
total rejection of theism and
between 85 and 200 million,

570
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,300
people have died because of
marxist, ideologies, during the

571
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:08,300
last century, If you rounded up
all of this the Roman emperors

572
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:14,800
over the last 400 years, they
kill between 10 and 100 times

573
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,199
less all of you over a 400-year
period.

574
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:28,500
You know, one guy and it's just
remarkable, right?

575
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:34,900
So I tore my ACL like five years
ago and I had a lot of time just

576
00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:37,500
to hang out and because I'm a
massive nerd.

577
00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:41,100
Russ, I went back to college,
not to seek a degree but just to

578
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,100
take some courses, I would find
interesting.

579
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:46,500
And so I took a bunch of courses
on political science.

580
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:52,699
And when they talk about marks
man, is there a lot of adulation

581
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,200
There is there, a lot of, you
know, this I can say with

582
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,500
complete knowledge, having been
there, they don't talk about all

583
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,500
the people that he ultimately
was responsible for killing

584
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,500
because you don't have Mal.
You don't have any of the other

585
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:14,100
communist dictators unless you
have marks.

586
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,100
How did you know, Marx was a
prolific writer?

587
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,000
And it is first work, he spoke
of the importance of a Believers

588
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,000
relationship, with Jesus Christ.
So Mark starts out as a

589
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:33,300
Christian Author writing about
the importance of that.

590
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:37,600
But it doesn't really take long
before his plays kind of, take a

591
00:35:37,607 --> 00:35:41,200
dark turn and this gross
blasphemy Porsche from his

592
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,300
heart.
He even said some things like

593
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:46,800
this, he says, I wish to avenge
myself against the one who rules

594
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,900
above.
That's pretty direct, right?

595
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,700
You said so God has snatched for
me my all in the curse and rack

596
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:58,200
of Destiny, all his words have
gone beyond recall nothing but

597
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,700
revenge is left to me.
I shall build my Throne, High

598
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:06,100
overhead.
So like that sounds a lot like

599
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,400
the words that Lucifer used when
he says seeks to build his

600
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,500
throne above gods in heaven,
right?

601
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,200
Yeah.
And if you read some of his

602
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:25,700
plays I mean he he always plays
the part of either Lucifer

603
00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:29,300
himself or somebody who's
willing to sell his soul if I'm

604
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:34,300
not mistaken.
He has a man crush on the guy

605
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:38,800
who wrote Faust, right?
And the the devil's bargain and

606
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,900
he refers back to that.
Time and time again, he feels a

607
00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:45,900
kinship there.
Well, you might imagine that the

608
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:49,000
darkness that The Mists of
Darkness at Lehigh knee-high,

609
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,900
Lehi and Nephi saw him in a
Dream.

610
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:57,700
It's like this guy in bodies
that dark, hellish Hue of that

611
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,200
mist of Darkness, doesn't he?
He does.

612
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,400
And what he said to, he also
said then I will walk

613
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,400
triumphantly like a god should
the ruins of their Kingdom.

614
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:08,800
Every word of mine is fire and
action.

615
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,400
My breast is equal to that of
the creator.

616
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,400
Yep.
And to kind of give you an idea

617
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,300
where he's got death on his mind
all the time.

618
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:23,700
He even says this, he says that
the sword and he's referring it

619
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:26,600
to allegorically to this.
He says, the Prince of Darkness,

620
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,600
sold it to me for, he beats the
time, and gives the signs and

621
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,900
ever more boldly.
I play the dance of death.

622
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,500
This is all foreshadowing, the
death that will come as the

623
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:45,300
result of marxist ideologies.
So I want to ask you a question.

624
00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:48,100
Russ.
And this is something that that

625
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,700
I haven't been able to get A
real good answer on myself, I

626
00:37:53,707 --> 00:37:55,800
have some theories but they're
just theories.

627
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,500
Do you think all these people
knew what they were doing?

628
00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:05,500
Do you think that they knew they
were on the side of Darkness or

629
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:08,400
do you think that somewhere?
They thought that maybe they

630
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,400
were just trying to advance
Humanity?

631
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:17,100
Well, I'm, you know, I believe
that there's some part of that

632
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:21,100
possibly, but when you actually
read words, like Marx is saying

633
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:25,200
that I wish to avenge myself
against the one who rules Above,

634
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,500
This is an outright challenge to
God.

635
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,000
We have an imposter in admitting
that this Has written from the

636
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,000
fires of hell and he says that
he knows he's going to be taken

637
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,600
by Satan.
And when Herman Melville says,

638
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,200
I've written my own Evil Book,
you know, to the debtor to the

639
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,200
degree of how much they knew.
I don't know, but it certainly

640
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,300
seems like they knew they were
dancing with the devil in some

641
00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:53,700
way they were playing with this,
and they knew they were going

642
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:56,900
against convention.
They were trying to break that

643
00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:59,300
down.
They were friends like with Walt

644
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:00,300
Whitman.
He's a poet.

645
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:07,000
But he's also homosexual and in
most of his poems were written

646
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000
and they kind of have this
homosexual been to them at a

647
00:39:10,008 --> 00:39:12,200
time when that wouldn't be heard
of.

648
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:18,700
And so yeah, I think they did
know and I think that shows up

649
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:21,700
even as we go on and some of
these other men of the things,

650
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,000
you know, their purpose, he's
out right to stand against God,

651
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,100
I think you're right, I've
looked at it and I just wanted

652
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:33,400
to To see if I was too far out
there in left field, but

653
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:39,100
especially marks, as I've read
more and more about marks.

654
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:41,700
I think, at some point, he may
have actually made a deal,

655
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:43,700
right?
I really do.

656
00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:47,400
I think he knew exactly what he
was doing for sure.

657
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:50,800
So even though we're not really
talking about communism, for

658
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,800
March, we're going to talk about
just what's in this book that

659
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,900
overall core statement of the
Communist Manifesto is that we

660
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:01,200
destroy the most hallowed of
relations when When we replace

661
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,800
home, education with social,
that's the core statement.

662
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,500
So, all this stuff about
communism is actually secondary

663
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,300
to this core statement and how
do we get communism?

664
00:40:12,300 --> 00:40:14,600
First thing?
We need to do, replace home,

665
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,800
education with social and then
I'm going to ask you a question.

666
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,300
What do you think is the most
hallowed of relations, Dave?

667
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,600
Boy, I think it would be it,
would I think first and foremost

668
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,300
it's the relationship between
you and your God.

669
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:32,800
And then I think you have you
and your wife and then you and

670
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,700
your children?
Yeah, I think you're right.

671
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:38,200
I'd like to add one thing
though.

672
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,400
I'd like to add that the most
hallowed relation is between a

673
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,100
father and his family and his
children.

674
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:48,600
Now in Malachi, we read in the
last chapter last first.

675
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,600
This is sort of the closing
McHale Out of the Old Testament,

676
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,800
it says, and that I will send
Malachi, he will send, you know,

677
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,100
this power, the sealing power to
turn the hearts of the father's

678
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:03,200
to the children, and the
children to the father's less

679
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,800
the whole earth, be smitten with
a curse.

680
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,700
Well Joseph, actually, when
Moroni comes and speaks to

681
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,600
Joseph, during the just, before
the Book of Mormons published,

682
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,400
he changes out a little.
He says that he will send to

683
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,100
plant the hearts of the promises
made to the father's Okay, and

684
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:21,800
we'll plant in the hearts of the
children, the promises made to

685
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,200
the father's.
So know if you think about when

686
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:32,100
a child is born, his first
conception of God is his father,

687
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,300
he doesn't have a figure to
think of he doesn't haven't seen

688
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:40,500
any paintings yet so he doesn't
really have any way to conceive

689
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:44,200
of who God is except he sees his
father.

690
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:50,800
So as a father we have literal
Leti to act as if we are the

691
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,900
archetype of God.
Because we are to our children

692
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,000
about initially.
Of course, they're going to

693
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,300
learn and they're going to
become detached and separate

694
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:01,200
themselves and get their own
relationship.

695
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:05,900
But at the first for, however,
many months or years, there's a

696
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:10,500
period of time where the father
represents God when the child

697
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:13,100
kneels down and prays.
For the first time in his mind,

698
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:16,400
he's going to see the man that
he knows, that's how God's going

699
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,600
to look.
And so you You know, your

700
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,600
children's God has a beard like
you.

701
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:25,800
And that's just because how we
how we conceive of that.

702
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,000
And, and I think the Lord knows
that and so that hallowed

703
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,300
relationship is really The
father.

704
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:36,600
And what's the most?
What have they gone after the

705
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,200
whole education?
And the whole modern world is

706
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,800
gone after first, they've gone
after the father, destroy the

707
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,800
father in the home.
And then after that, then they

708
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,100
go after the women through
women's rights, right?

709
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:52,700
And they the whole feminism
movement, right?

710
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:55,900
And then they'll finally get to
the kids which is where they are

711
00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:58,100
now.
So they can we literally lost

712
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:00,100
the dad's, we've lost the
fathers.

713
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:04,700
And you know, when I Say that.
I'm just as much saying that

714
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:08,300
about me because we have become
absorbed in our work.

715
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:11,200
We become absorbed in our world
of trying to make money.

716
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,800
And we don't want to take the
time to spend with our children

717
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,000
and Dad's need to be involved in
the education of their kids.

718
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,200
They need to be home at least
some of the time.

719
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,300
Even if they have to structure a
job to the best of their

720
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:27,600
ability, and there are ways you
can do it.

721
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,500
Like, for example, my wife and I
she started this, she would have

722
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:35,400
me give the Kids an assignment.
And then I had to give, I had to

723
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,000
check their rough draft on
Thursday and that was the best

724
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,700
we had when they were younger.
I wish I'd spent more time but

725
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:45,100
at least we did that.
And she could spend the whole

726
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:48,900
week teaching in the kids.
Cared more about my rough draft

727
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:53,500
on Thursday than everything, she
taught them and so I was a hero,

728
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,000
I got all the credit, she got
all the hard work, but the kids

729
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,300
need dad's in their in their
schooling lives to the best of

730
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,100
Of our abilities.
And when I was younger, a

731
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:09,100
younger dad, I thought that was
totally my wife responsibility.

732
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:11,500
I'd go to work.
You take care of the kids and

733
00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:14,900
that's just not right.
It's, I feel like I've got to be

734
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:19,900
more involved in that.
No, I definitely think you're

735
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:22,700
right.
I lost my dad at a young age.

736
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:28,000
But I think I think my God,
every day that I had my dad,

737
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,900
when I for the time I did
because he was a great dad and

738
00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:38,000
you are 100% correct.
I can remember it was a such a

739
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,300
weird realization that I
remember thinking.

740
00:44:41,500 --> 00:44:44,900
Why is it when I think?
And I was 13 still at the time,

741
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:47,900
right?
That for some reason.

742
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,200
My dad's characteristics are
characteristics.

743
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:58,900
I Ejected on God we all do.
Yeah and so know you're you're

744
00:44:58,900 --> 00:45:03,600
absolutely 100% correct.
I think if we as fathers will

745
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:08,700
think of that think my child is
thinking of me as God how am I

746
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:12,200
standing up to that?
I think it does have an impact

747
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,400
it has on me and I'm not saying
that there are a lot of

748
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:18,500
unconventional families.
We have to do the best we can.

749
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:22,800
This is not a judgment on that.
This is just a statement of

750
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,300
fact. fathers have been taken
and stolen away from the

751
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:31,500
families collectively, you know,
that that's the general thing

752
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,000
and so Point number 10, you
know, this core statement coming

753
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,000
back to the Communist, Manifesto
is core statement of destroying

754
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,600
the most talented relations,
that's reflected in plank number

755
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:47,000
10 of the Communist Manifesto
and that is that free education

756
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,700
for all children in public
school, abolition of children's

757
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:54,300
Factory labor in, its present
form and Nation of Education

758
00:45:54,300 --> 00:46:00,400
with industrial production.
Now, at the time in 1848, the

759
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,200
child's Factory labor primarily
consisted of working in the

760
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,800
family business, whether that
blacksmith shop a Cooperage or

761
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:13,500
on the farm.
And so it was taking it away,

762
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:17,700
take him, take him out of that
and prepare them to work in the

763
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:22,100
industrial world.
It's it kind of looks like, oh

764
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:26,200
yeah, we want to protect our
From Factory labor no no get him

765
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,100
out of the home, get him out of
the home business and prepare

766
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:35,400
them to be worker bees.
It's a social construct, okay?

767
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,100
So the first thing you want to
do then is make that happen.

768
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:42,100
Well, it just so happens in
1852, just four years after this

769
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:45,900
is published, Massachusetts
becomes the first pass,

770
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:52,300
compulsory School attendance and
and it's it's done in all 50

771
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:58,600
states by 18, 18, true.
So the whole United States has

772
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,300
now become a compulsory state
for education.

773
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,600
Talk about a fast and hard fall,
right?

774
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,500
50 years is barely one
generation.

775
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,800
In one generation.
They were able to get that done.

776
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,300
And it's interesting about this
time period.

777
00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:30,200
I just got done reading a book
about Woodrow Wilson, who was

778
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,300
our first quote academic
president and I remember he had

779
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:38,300
a very telling statement that he
made which was our whole point

780
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:41,600
of Education, both college and
public.

781
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,900
Is to make a boy as much, unlike
his father as possible.

782
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,900
That's right, let's talk about
how that actually happened with

783
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:57,500
this guy right here, horse, man.
So he's, he's a born in 1796.

784
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,800
He's about nine years older than
Joseph Smith.

785
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,900
He's born in Massachusetts, just
35 miles from Plymouth and Salem

786
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:10,100
kind of in that same area.
He was raised Orthodox, Puritan

787
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,300
calvinist but he turned to
Unitarianism, Unitarianism means

788
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:17,600
that they just dismiss that the
Trinity and the I kind of went

789
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,100
off the rails in a different
direction.

790
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:24,000
This guy's a delegate in
Massachusetts and so he's he's

791
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,900
actually the guy that makes the
compulsory education happened in

792
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,600
Massachusetts.
And so you see this you see how

793
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:39,200
this Puritan descendants are,
actually the fighters, these

794
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,700
guys were Christian converted to
things that are not quite so

795
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:46,800
Christian.
And this guy horse man did more

796
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:49,300
More to establish in the minds
of the American people at

797
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:52,500
conception that education could
should be Universal

798
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:56,400
non-sectarian and free.
That's the whole thing is,

799
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,000
convince people that it needed
to be all the same and it needed

800
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,900
to be non-sectarian and free.
And the whole point was to get

801
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:08,900
people to be socially efficient.
So we fit, within this social

802
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:13,600
ideal right, not the family, not
your religion, but social, and

803
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:19,300
that character, meaning trained
by the school's character was

804
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,400
something that was more than it
just being taught by your

805
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,400
religion, your sectarianism
right.

806
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,000
Right.
Was even though he was opposed

807
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,100
by the Ministers of his day,
that they saw what he was doing.

808
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,300
They still gave way and it was
finally overcome.

809
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,200
So this was the first statement
fall and it was because of this

810
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,400
guy.
This guy Horace Mann.

811
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,900
He's the one that kind of starts
the public education.

812
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:53,300
Push notice his death 1859 same
day that this or the same year.

813
00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:56,900
This guy dies.
The next guy that is in line is

814
00:49:56,900 --> 00:50:02,100
going to be born.
Okay, before we leave this guy

815
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:07,400
before we leave, Horace Mann, he
hated the Puritan faith of his

816
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,300
forefathers So this is the same
thing that Faneuil Hawthorne

817
00:50:11,300 --> 00:50:13,400
hated the faith of his
forefathers.

818
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,000
This is the same thing that
these all these guys like Mark

819
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,800
Twain.
They all hate the faith of their

820
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,000
forefathers.
They want to get rid of it.

821
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,700
They don't want any part of it.
Why?

822
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:34,000
So I want to ask the question
here why because even as early

823
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,900
as 1859 you you definitely begin
to see the fruits of this

824
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:43,200
American experiment.
Begin to take root and it takes

825
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:49,500
root because unlike most if not
all of the other European

826
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:53,000
nations, all of the you're the
all of Europe, excuse me.

827
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,800
We are government makes a
covenant at the beginning with

828
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,700
the god of Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob.

829
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:03,900
So we see the benefits of that
Covenant.

830
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:09,700
So what do you think inspires
this hate from these men of the

831
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:12,200
fish painted?
Very great for sure.

832
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,300
This battle is a premortal war
and the thing is is if you

833
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:19,000
understand that's why this
science and the education and

834
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,700
and the Covenant all come
together because the war was

835
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:28,200
fought, In the same way in the
premortal life, this is not new.

836
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:31,800
It's the same words that were
being said before.

837
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,600
We were born, it's the same
battle.

838
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,300
It's the same ideals and were
fighting against an ongoing

839
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:40,900
battle.
It's not new, it's the same

840
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:43,700
battle and so where is it going
to be Satan's?

841
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:46,700
Going to come right at the Crux
of it you're right.

842
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:49,900
We made a covenant.
The pilgrims made the Covenant.

843
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:54,500
The Mayflower Mayflower Compact
Puritans adopt that Covenant

844
00:51:54,500 --> 00:51:57,900
then later on the Declaration of
Independence and the

845
00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:00,500
Constitution become the American
Covenant.

846
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:06,500
It's a, it's literally American
scripture and it declares things

847
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:09,900
that are from God.
God says that he raised up men

848
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:13,800
for that Express purpose.
So, yes, we have all of these

849
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,000
things and Satan is coming after
to destroy this, and he's coming

850
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,100
after it.
And in a way, he's he's taking

851
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:24,700
it down this road of education
and I think You see that it

852
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:28,700
gets.
It becomes so plain, and I'm not

853
00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:31,500
trying to be this doomsday, or
guy that says this.

854
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:34,000
But what I'm saying is, let's
open our eyes and we need to

855
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:39,600
realize what America was built
on, was the family business?

856
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,200
That was the single thing was
the family business that allowed

857
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,600
us to, to go out.
Not only raise, our farm crops

858
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,100
that we ate.
We had a business, like, a

859
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:53,800
Cooperage where they would make
bear.

860
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:57,000
Girls or a cobbler where they
make shoes or a blacksmith shop

861
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,500
or or you know whatever they did
and there were some pretty

862
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:02,700
high-tech stuff.
They did Brigham Young was a

863
00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:07,300
glazier, a glass man.
John Taylor got the sugar beet.

864
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:11,000
Yeah.
So there was a lot of complex

865
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:16,000
and things that were business
was was important and in getting

866
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,600
our families involved in the
family business, I think is now

867
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:25,200
more important than ever.
We have a bigger, I mean, we're

868
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,000
going off a little bit here, but
think about this.

869
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:32,500
What is God's business price was
all Temple.

870
00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:35,200
He says, I must be about my
father's business.

871
00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:39,600
What is God's business?
To bring to pass the eternal

872
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,100
life and immortality of man.
Exactly.

873
00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:45,000
So, we are engaged in that
business or at least we should

874
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,700
be as Believers as part of the
tribe part of Israel.

875
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,500
Israel is, is in our father's
business.

876
00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:56,600
So more importantly than driving
truck or you're a surveyor.

877
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,600
I'm a window guy, more important
than the work that we do.

878
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:05,200
Is the influence that we have on
our children and our communities

879
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,000
to bring to pass the immortality
and eternal life of math.

880
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,300
Absolutely.
All right, let's go past Horace.

881
00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:21,000
Mann to the next guy and 1859,
this guy is born.

882
00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:23,700
Oh, I forgot one.
One thing on this, these were

883
00:54:23,700 --> 00:54:27,000
the six principles that Horace,
Mann instituted in the public

884
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,900
education thing I need this
because it's going to set the

885
00:54:29,900 --> 00:54:31,500
stage for what the next guy
does.

886
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:35,400
These are the six things.
One, that public school, the

887
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,800
public should no longer remain
ignorant.

888
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:47,700
What does that mean?
I'm guessing ignorant is is a Is

889
00:54:47,700 --> 00:54:50,500
a term.
That doesn't mean what it

890
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,600
originally meant, much like, I
think it means exactly that but

891
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,000
they're applying it to knowledge
about Evolution and okay,

892
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,700
because this is this is all in
the, you know, this is the this

893
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:07,100
is after Darwin is come on the
scene.

894
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:10,400
This is after that, this
scientists in the education

895
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:16,000
Community is already pushing
these Concepts now, Darwin's

896
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:21,700
book isn't published till 1858,
but this is the time when all of

897
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:26,100
this is happening Right.
This is the yeah that period

898
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:29,100
it's all being pushed and so
ignorant means you're not aware

899
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:32,900
of what modern science is
telling you about the age-old

900
00:55:32,900 --> 00:55:35,500
Earth.
And then of course taxes, you

901
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:38,300
know, we need to all pay for it
says we're going to be taxed for

902
00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:40,800
Education.
The education will be best

903
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,400
provided in schools and embrace
children from a variety of

904
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,900
backgrounds.
That sounds good.

905
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:47,600
But what really is the
underlying thing there?

906
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:55,300
probably to make sure that
things like Darwinism and and

907
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,000
You know, hardcore secularism or
taught?

908
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:02,500
And that there's no
differentiation between

909
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:04,200
religions.
If you want to believe this

910
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,300
religion, we're going to, we're
going to equalize everybody so

911
00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:11,100
that their, they can start
looking at and getting rid of

912
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:15,600
their, you know, that's Satan's.
Ultimate goal is to have a one

913
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,500
world religion.
That's what he's going to do is.

914
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:21,500
And it's going to be his
religion, not ours and so you

915
00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:24,900
bring these different
backgrounds and you erase

916
00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:28,600
family, traditions and culture
and try to bring them together

917
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,400
number for Education, must be
secular.

918
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:35,300
So that means get rid of God.
Number five, the tenths of a

919
00:56:35,300 --> 00:56:37,700
free society would be taught to
all what's the difference

920
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:43,300
between freedom and liberty.
Liberty is by law within the

921
00:56:43,300 --> 00:56:47,400
confines of God's law where
freedom is free of those laws.

922
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:53,000
So free Society is actually not
necessarily the freedom that's

923
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,000
embodied in the Constitution and
the Declaration of Independence.

924
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,900
Freedom is free of the confines
of God, telling us what we can

925
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:05,300
and can't do.
I see in Liberty is freedom

926
00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:07,500
within God's law.
Exactly.

927
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,000
And we never fought for freedom
when we were fighting the

928
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,000
constant for the, we're fighting
the British to, for our own, we

929
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,400
were fighting for Liberty,
right?

930
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:22,200
And that it's an important
distinction to recognize.

931
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,600
That number six is that
instruction be should be

932
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,200
provided by well-trained
professional teachers.

933
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:30,500
So what does that mean?
Right?

934
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:32,400
What is well-trained
professional teacher.

935
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:37,800
I mean I would think
well-trained would be toting the

936
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:43,200
propaganda for for the state
precisely indoctrinated to what

937
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,100
they want, right?
So anyway that leaving horse

938
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:50,300
man, he's a Massachusetts state
legislature that brings in this

939
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:53,100
stuff, okay?
So he's the guy that brings that

940
00:57:53,100 --> 00:57:56,100
in and then the next guy on the
scene is John Dewey.

941
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,200
Now, if you read Woodrow Wilson,
you probably read about John

942
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,100
Dewey because he's around the
same time.

943
00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:06,400
He's born in in 59.
Like everyone else.

944
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,800
He starts out a Christian.
I mean, all of these people

945
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,100
we've been talking about, start
out as Christian and he's born

946
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:17,500
into a solid family, but he
tells his daddy wants to go to

947
00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:19,600
college.
And his father is heartbroken,

948
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,500
because he knows what's going to
happen in the University.

949
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:27,400
But to prove, he's dead wrong.
He joins the student Christian

950
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,200
Association.
He's going to show his dad.

951
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,000
Hey I'm, I'm really good and he
gives his first speech and He

952
00:58:34,008 --> 00:58:37,000
talks about the obligation to
the knowledge of God.

953
00:58:37,300 --> 00:58:41,200
He said belief was not a
privilege but a duty to believe

954
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,000
in God.
And that's how he starts his

955
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,500
college career.
He writes his first book called

956
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:51,200
psychology and that's all it's
called a psychology and he

957
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,400
argues that logic.
Proves God is a necessity.

958
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,100
It sounds like he starts off
really good in college.

959
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,700
Like a lot of people, though,
when we ve probably heard this

960
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:08,200
kid say, oh, our kids have got
to have their peers, right?

961
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,200
They've got to have it, we're
afraid they're going to be

962
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,300
socially backward, if we don't
let them have their friends like

963
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,000
when do kids ever learn anything
good from their peers, really.

964
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:21,200
You're right.
You're right.

965
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,000
No, you're you're 100% right.
Kids need to learn from Mom and

966
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,600
Dad, they can associate with
peers.

967
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,500
Mom and dad are the ones they
need to learn from not peers.

968
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:33,800
Well, John Dewey started
choosing his peers his mentor's.

969
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,800
And choosing your friends is
important, right?

970
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:43,200
Who you choose has a huge impact
on where you're going to go and

971
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,800
he chooses this guy G Stanley
Hall and he's G.

972
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,500
Stanley Hall is an absolute
Darwin fanatic, and he's a

973
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:57,200
full-blown eugenicist which
means people that aren't the

974
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,700
perfect people should die.
Yeah, the people that are too

975
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:06,600
old, too young to Black to Jutsu
to do Down syndrome to death,

976
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:11,400
whatever, whatever defect they
should not be a part of the

977
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,500
system and I go ahead, let's go
see.

978
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:20,800
I read up on this a little bit,
I remember it was back when

979
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,600
Barack Obama was running for his
first term and he was running

980
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:28,900
from for against Hillary Clinton
and someone asked Hillary, you

981
01:00:28,900 --> 01:00:32,100
consider yourself a liberal and
she said, you know, I consider

982
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:35,100
myself more of a progressive
which has a rich American Can

983
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:37,200
history dating back to the turn
of the century.

984
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,000
And so I was like, well, I'm
going to go back and find out

985
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,900
what those folks were and
Eugenics were huge part of it.

986
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,800
You're talking about people like
Margaret Sanger who referred to

987
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:53,500
two black people as human weeds,
and she felt the same way about

988
01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:57,400
Chinese that she did about black
people and said horrific things.

989
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,900
Like the best thing you could do
for a child who was born to a

990
01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:04,200
large family with smother that
child These were evil evil

991
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,700
people and as much and don't get
me wrong.

992
01:01:07,700 --> 01:01:10,600
The Nazis were horrible, but
they learned it from us.

993
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,800
First, in fact, if I'm not
mistaken, the first forced

994
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,100
sterilization in the western
world happened in Indiana.

995
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:23,900
Under this Eugenics movement I'm
sure that and Margaret sanger's.

996
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:25,600
The founder of Planned
Parenthood.

997
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,400
Absolutely yep.
That's the whole, the whole

998
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,600
life, right?
Anyway Stanley Halls the first

999
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,700
to earn a PhD in American
psychology.

1000
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:38,300
He's the first doctor first PhD
in America in Psychology and

1001
01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:41,900
that's a whole nother discussion
and we won't get off onto that.

1002
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:46,800
But his favorite, his hero was
Charles Darwin, which naturally

1003
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,800
meant that John Dewey's became
Charles Darwin.

1004
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:54,400
And this is what he wrote about
this because any and he says

1005
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,400
that Dewey wrote the Origin of
Species marked an Epoch, in the

1006
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,600
development of the Natural
Sciences, a mode of thinking

1007
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,500
that would transform morals,
politics and religion.

1008
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,700
And then he also wrote The
Darwin single-handedly dispensed

1009
01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:13,200
with 2,000 years of the fixed
and final.

1010
01:02:13,700 --> 01:02:15,000
What does it mean?
Fixed?

1011
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:20,500
And final, it means absolute
truth. so, Darwin

1012
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:25,500
single-handedly dispensed with
2,000 years of Christ.

1013
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,400
The absolute truth.
Not regimen.

1014
01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:30,800
Yes out.
Right.

1015
01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:36,200
You know, I know how the story
turns out, but I still find

1016
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,800
myself, sitting here going,
don't do it, don't ever mind,

1017
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:44,900
you're going to do it anyway.
So so John to becomes a humanist

1018
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:50,500
and it's kind of interesting to
think about what the modern

1019
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:54,800
education, what the universities
really are at the heart of the

1020
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,500
modern University is the idea
that man's intellect is greater

1021
01:02:59,500 --> 01:03:02,800
than God.
That's the whole thing is focus

1022
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,700
on the intellect and they
glorify human reason and that's

1023
01:03:06,700 --> 01:03:08,100
now.
And at first you might think

1024
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:10,800
well, that's really cool that we
learn how to reason each other

1025
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,300
out, right?
But it's a way of divorcing us

1026
01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:18,100
from our creator to think that
we are now the Smart Guys,

1027
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,800
right?
We moved past what Jesus Christ

1028
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,400
can offer us and now we can be
smart ourselves.

1029
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,800
Any time I hear someone
glorifying human reason.

1030
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:34,700
I'm like go look inside.
Look, just go to work for a day

1031
01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:36,400
inside of a government office
building.

1032
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,200
I worked inside of a government
office building for a year and a

1033
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,000
half, and I had to leave that
will change your mind really

1034
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:49,400
quickly.
So Dewey it's we're not

1035
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,100
absolutely certain that he
writes the humanist Manifesto

1036
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,300
but he definitely had the
biggest influence and he was the

1037
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:58,200
most notable signer of the
humanist.

1038
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:03,900
Manifesto published in 1933.
Okay, so that you can humanist,

1039
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:07,000
manifest Manifesto included,
these things of the universe is

1040
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:12,500
self existing and not created.
So there, you know, God's out of

1041
01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:16,600
that man is a part of Nature and
has emerged as a result of a

1042
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:21,200
continuous process.
That was the nature of the

1043
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,300
universe depicted by modern
science.

1044
01:04:23,300 --> 01:04:27,200
Makes unacceptable, any
Supernatural or Cosmic

1045
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,500
guarantees of human values.
Another word.

1046
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,300
What we just said in the
Constitution about these

1047
01:04:35,300 --> 01:04:40,000
unalienable rights given to us
by God is now not given to us by

1048
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,800
God.
There is no, it's a complete

1049
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,600
refutation of the things of
Liberty that we stand for as a

1050
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:52,200
nation.
So, John Dewey is essentially

1051
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:57,600
the humanist profit.
Now Dave this is going to take

1052
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,400
you off because it sure did me.
He said the school is primarily

1053
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:07,200
a social institution.
Education is the regulation of

1054
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,500
the process of coming to share
in the social Consciousness.

1055
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,500
Geez.
We cannot know anything for

1056
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:18,800
certain, this is the humanist,
Manifesto laid out for us.

1057
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,700
Okay?
God is a faded piece of

1058
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:29,100
metaphysical Goods.
Oh, and here's the best one.

1059
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:36,700
The teacher is the prophet and
the true God, and the Usher in

1060
01:05:36,700 --> 01:05:42,400
of the true kingdom of God,
because that's about as straight

1061
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:48,400
up, as you can get as that.
Did he at this point you can't

1062
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,100
refute that they didn't know
what they were doing.

1063
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:54,300
They knew exactly what they were
doing.

1064
01:05:54,300 --> 01:06:00,100
They had a goal in mind which
was to supplant the family and

1065
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,000
God and replace it with the
state.

1066
01:06:05,500 --> 01:06:08,300
Starting from the earliest age
possible.

1067
01:06:08,300 --> 01:06:10,800
They could get their hands on
our on our children.

1068
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:14,300
That's right.
So if you think about what Nephi

1069
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:20,400
saw when he saw is great and
abominable Church, And it's

1070
01:06:20,500 --> 01:06:24,200
happening right side by side.
The embodiment of the

1071
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,100
Constitution and the Declaration
of Independence of this new

1072
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:30,700
nation, these things are
happening side-by-side.

1073
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:34,500
And so these things happen and
we can literally see them being

1074
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:40,200
played out in the forward
movement of what education is.

1075
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,400
It literally is embodying.
It's becoming a part of this

1076
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,700
great and abominable church.
It's the two opposing viewpoints

1077
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:56,200
And you.
And we started wrong.

1078
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,200
I mean that that's the other
thing, right?

1079
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:04,500
Is that not completely, but by
certainly by 1859 right, where?

1080
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:08,200
That's the bulk of our history
as a nation, right?

1081
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:13,000
There's more history that's
happened since 1859 then 1859

1082
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,700
back to 1776.
And I I think though, that it's

1083
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:20,600
kind of all when we start
talking about the restoration

1084
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,900
it's really not 1830.
The restoration started with

1085
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,400
Rhombus in 1892.
I'm sorry.

1086
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,900
But I think even before that the
printing press had discovered in

1087
01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:35,100
1453, I think that's really
where the Reformation movement

1088
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:38,400
started.
This is where Martin Luther

1089
01:07:39,300 --> 01:07:43,600
nailed his thesis on the doors
of the of the cathedral in

1090
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,500
Germany.
This this movement is a battle

1091
01:07:47,500 --> 01:07:50,200
and it's a back-and-forth, it's
like a literal battle where you

1092
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,800
have these, these things going
back and forth as Christ is

1093
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,100
moving.
For the restoration preparing

1094
01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:59,600
this and Satan is freaking out.
He knows the right now.

1095
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,500
I think he knows his time is
days are counted and he's he

1096
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:06,100
does not know the mind and will
of God, he doesn't know the

1097
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:09,600
timing, he doesn't have all that
knowledge, but he sees that

1098
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,300
things and I think he's freaking
out.

1099
01:08:12,700 --> 01:08:16,600
And I think that this is all
been a lead up to where we need

1100
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,899
to wake up and be aware what
battle were fighting.

1101
01:08:21,700 --> 01:08:25,700
Absolutely what's funnier us is
I think there's a lot of other

1102
01:08:25,700 --> 01:08:30,000
people that feel that, right?
I think that, that, that feeling

1103
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:34,700
of an event that's on the
horizon is I think everyone can

1104
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:36,700
feel that it's closer to these
days.

1105
01:08:37,300 --> 01:08:38,800
I agree.
I agree.

1106
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,100
So that's the education thing,
but let's not take a different

1107
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:44,899
direction.
Let's talk about the origins of

1108
01:08:44,907 --> 01:08:48,399
modern science and we talked a
little bit about this on.

1109
01:08:48,399 --> 01:08:51,000
Our first podcast, we're going
to jump into To a little bit

1110
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:55,200
more, just to kind of connect it
into this, this whole mix right

1111
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,300
here.
So, James Hutton is a part of

1112
01:08:57,308 --> 01:09:00,000
the Scottish, Enlightenment.
Any time you hear the word,

1113
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,399
Enlightenment, you can know that
this is about how man's

1114
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:07,100
intellect is replacing God.
So whether it's the

1115
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:10,399
enlightenment of the Dark Ages,
whether it's the Scottish

1116
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:12,300
Enlightenment, it's whatever you
ever heard the word

1117
01:09:12,300 --> 01:09:15,200
Enlightenment, what they're
really saying is that man's

1118
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,300
intellect is now greater than
God's, and we finally woke up,

1119
01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:21,800
Okay, so he's a part of that
shift.

1120
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,000
He's, he's in that movement of
this.

1121
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:29,200
So-called Superior human
reasoning and it's a stark shift

1122
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,600
from just about 150 years.
Before they had this Scottish

1123
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:38,000
Covenant, the national Covenant,
where the Scottish people signed

1124
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,399
a covenant that they would
protect and defend the

1125
01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:42,899
Protestant religion, it would
defend God.

1126
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:46,000
And so now the enlightenment is
come along to the start the

1127
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,700
replacement of that.
James Hutton is considered the

1128
01:09:50,700 --> 01:09:54,300
father of geology.
He's the guy that sort of sets

1129
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:56,200
the stage.
He's not the first guy that

1130
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,300
talked about a hot molten Earth,
but he's, he's the guy that's

1131
01:09:59,300 --> 01:10:02,900
the most influential in this and
he publishes his theory of the

1132
01:10:02,900 --> 01:10:05,600
earth and 1788.
Okay.

1133
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,500
And he convinces, most of his
fellow geologists that the Earth

1134
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:10,600
is incalculable calculable e
old.

1135
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,300
Another interesting tie is 1788
is the same time.

1136
01:10:14,300 --> 01:10:17,500
The Constitution is ratified.
So you you're seeing these two,

1137
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,400
Kind of things happening here,
but the Constitution doesn't

1138
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,200
make that huge of an event yet.
It's just starting and his

1139
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:30,600
theories published in 1788 also,
don't really make this big deal

1140
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,400
but it's starts, right?
It starts this movement and it's

1141
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,900
poorly written.
And so it's forgotten until he

1142
01:10:36,907 --> 01:10:39,900
dies and 1797 the kind of goes
away.

1143
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:45,700
But this guy comes along,
Charles Lyell and Charles Lyell

1144
01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:51,700
is a he's a well Published well,
respected author and he refuses

1145
01:10:51,700 --> 01:10:55,400
to accept the flood or the
testimony of Noah is recorded in

1146
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,200
Genesis.
He becomes very anti-biblical

1147
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,500
all the way refuses, any kind of
catastrophism.

1148
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:08,200
And then he's smart though he
says, don't form an opinion

1149
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,300
until you've read my theory,
okay?

1150
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:13,300
Don't form an opinion from
history.

1151
01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:15,900
That's Genesis everybody new,
genesis is history.

1152
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,800
Now this is What he says though,
this is pretty Sly.

1153
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,900
He says, if you don't triumph
over them, that means you and me

1154
01:11:23,900 --> 01:11:25,600
Dave.
And all these other people that

1155
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,800
believe in the Bible, if you
don't try and pull over them,

1156
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,100
but compliment them the
liberality and the Candor of the

1157
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:35,900
present age, and the Bishops,
and enlightened Saints will join

1158
01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:37,900
us in despising, both the
ancient.

1159
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:42,400
And the modern says, you know,
he wrote physical Theologian.

1160
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:44,900
But what he really said that's
that's profit.

1161
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,600
The Saint the Bishops and Saints
will join us in despising the

1162
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:54,300
ancient and modern Prophets.
Please tell the great.

1163
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:56,000
They are tell him how smart they
are.

1164
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,900
They'll come, they'll join us
and pretty soon.

1165
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:02,600
We'll have the Saints.
Saying that your profits are

1166
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:07,900
wrong.
And how did that happen?

1167
01:12:08,700 --> 01:12:12,200
Well, he publishes principles
of, geology and 1830.

1168
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:19,200
So just like the Constitution
had sort of on its thrust,

1169
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,000
right?
And we see the Constitution is

1170
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,600
actually tested pretty heavily
and 1860s with the rebel the

1171
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,700
Civil War, right?
So this is about to test

1172
01:12:30,700 --> 01:12:35,200
everything too.
Principles of geology is wildly

1173
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,900
popular to repentance reprinted
12 times and it convinces, the

1174
01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:43,800
whole science of the Earth's
extreme age.

1175
01:12:46,900 --> 01:12:52,200
Now, the important thing to note
here is that we often think that

1176
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:57,000
evolution is the fight, but I
think the age of the Earth is a

1177
01:12:57,008 --> 01:13:00,100
much more important fight
because if you have the age of

1178
01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:03,800
the Earth established as it says
in the Bible Evolution has

1179
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,800
nothing it falls apart.
Yeah because it can't stand if

1180
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,100
the Earth isn't billions and
billions and billions of years

1181
01:13:11,100 --> 01:13:16,400
old they're certainly not enough
time for evolution to kick in as

1182
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,600
its In described.
That's right.

1183
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,000
Let's talk about the next guy,
Charles Darwin, he's a humanist

1184
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:29,000
scientist and as a young boy
Darwin was a pretty dark child.

1185
01:13:29,900 --> 01:13:35,900
He beat a puppy simply for the
sense of power that he got from

1186
01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:38,900
it.
And he loved to kill birds by

1187
01:13:38,900 --> 01:13:40,600
pounding on their heads with a
hammer.

1188
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:43,800
And so this, you know, he's kind
of in a fuse that really

1189
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,400
happened.
He you'd save your kid were

1190
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,100
doing that.
You'd say, you know, something's

1191
01:13:48,500 --> 01:13:52,900
something's a little wrong.
He loved to hunt by 17.

1192
01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:55,100
He killed animals for the joy of
killing.

1193
01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:57,600
He would go hunting.
He just absolutely loved

1194
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:02,900
hunting.
And he was in a very Avid

1195
01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:07,200
Hunter.
He said, I do not believe that

1196
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,300
anyone could have shown more
Zeal for the most holy cause

1197
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:14,300
than I did for shooting birds.
How, well, I remember killing my

1198
01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:17,800
first snipe, my excitement was
so great that I had much

1199
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,800
difficulty in reloading.
My gun from the trembling of my

1200
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:26,600
hands.
Who, you know?

1201
01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:36,000
I'm a Hunter right?
However, that isn't the same

1202
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,900
kind of reverence.
That you would show when you

1203
01:14:40,900 --> 01:14:43,200
kill an animal, right?
I mean that.

1204
01:14:44,700 --> 01:14:48,300
That is more sadistic than than
a hunter.

1205
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:53,100
For sure.
So there's it's about his life

1206
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:56,400
to about, you know, he actually
when he's young, he has this

1207
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,200
Vibrance and he loves nature and
he sees things and he's he's

1208
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:04,600
exploring things, but there's
some definitely some underlying

1209
01:15:04,700 --> 01:15:08,300
things that are going on.
By the time, he's 22 years old,

1210
01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:12,200
he's getting on board, the HMS
Beagle and the captain of the

1211
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,700
beagle.
James Fitzroy, gives Darwin a

1212
01:15:14,700 --> 01:15:17,500
copy of Charles lyell's
principles of geology.

1213
01:15:17,500 --> 01:15:19,800
That's published one.
R before.

1214
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:25,800
So this principles of geology is
is this Catalyst and Darwin says

1215
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:30,400
that it opened his eyes to how
Evolution can work, because it

1216
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:35,900
was so this deep time,
Incidentally, Darwin, took his

1217
01:15:35,900 --> 01:15:38,400
own book.
The book he chose to take were

1218
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:45,200
the 12 volume set of John
Milton's, Paradise, Lost a

1219
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,200
Paradise Lost is another one of
those Classics that's probably

1220
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,300
on a lot of people's shelves and
it's written.

1221
01:15:51,300 --> 01:15:57,100
It's about the It's about the
Garden of Eden in the casting

1222
01:15:57,100 --> 01:16:00,300
out and expulsion of Adam and
Eve but it's actually written

1223
01:16:00,300 --> 01:16:02,700
from Satan's point of view,
right?

1224
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,900
So it's not it's not this
glorious thing that God's lie.

1225
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:13,200
It's written from, you know, for
Satan and how he fed paired.

1226
01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:17,700
Okay, so this is the influence
and anyway, this principles of

1227
01:16:17,700 --> 01:16:23,300
geology is the influencer Of
Charles Darwin's.

1228
01:16:24,700 --> 01:16:29,300
Own ideas on Evolution and then
he publishes the origin of the

1229
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:35,100
species in 1859.
Here's the kick.

1230
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:38,600
Origin of Species is the most
influential book in history.

1231
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:43,000
It outranks, the Bible the Koran
and the Mark is Marx's Communist

1232
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,700
Manifesto.
Hmm.

1233
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:53,400
In China, they don't know about
Christ, but they know about

1234
01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:57,300
Darwin.
And it isn't just the Origin of

1235
01:16:57,300 --> 01:17:01,700
Species either, okay?
It's that How Deeply it's

1236
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:05,900
entrenched in our universities
less than half of the Christian

1237
01:17:05,900 --> 01:17:10,400
universities in America opposed
darwinian Evolution.

1238
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:17,800
That's Christian universities
BYU U SQ, U Vu, and you of you

1239
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:23,300
all Embrace Evolution, all of
them not just the little they

1240
01:17:23,300 --> 01:17:28,300
fully embrace it.
And that.

1241
01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:33,800
That's a, it's crazy.
When you stop to think that it's

1242
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:39,200
still a theory, right?
You still can't prove much of

1243
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:44,300
what Darwin said because there's
there's there's missing parts

1244
01:17:44,300 --> 01:17:49,200
all over.
If if Darwin was correct, we

1245
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,400
should expect to see certain
things that we just don't see

1246
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,600
your and we don't find it all
Russ.

1247
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:57,200
Alright, here's the thing
though.

1248
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,500
Is that because evolution is
divided into Microevolution and

1249
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:05,200
macro-evolution there's this
endless debate over Evolutions

1250
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:09,100
true of its adaptation versus
speciation and so there's this

1251
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:12,000
kind of ongoing Coral about this
versus that.

1252
01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:14,800
And you know we could definitely
make a dive and we should

1253
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,900
probably do another podcast and
talk about just evolution in the

1254
01:18:17,900 --> 01:18:22,300
laws of the life but just know
this Evolution cannot work.

1255
01:18:22,300 --> 01:18:25,800
If there's not billions of
years, so the fight isn't

1256
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,500
Evolution.
The we need to go look at the

1257
01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:30,000
Bible.
This is how the Bible.

1258
01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:34,300
The entire first part of the
Bible is about geology and

1259
01:18:34,300 --> 01:18:37,000
Science and weather and
meteorology and all the other

1260
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,900
things that are happening.
It's a science book and it

1261
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:43,700
actually defines and describes a
creation account.

1262
01:18:43,700 --> 01:18:46,900
That's very scientific and very
sound and its origin.

1263
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,800
And that's the thing is, read
the Bible from a science point

1264
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,200
of view and it's actually far
more simple and easy to

1265
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,700
understand and it's not billions
of years.

1266
01:18:58,100 --> 01:19:01,700
That's our fight.
Right.

1267
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,800
Ya know you and you make an
excellent point and I'll be

1268
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,900
something I never put my finger
on, right.

1269
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,600
I always just assumed Darwin
was, was the guy you had to kind

1270
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,000
of contend with, but maybe it's
not.

1271
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,900
Maybe you make a darn good case,
rested, its geology.

1272
01:19:19,900 --> 01:19:24,200
We have to look at first.
Well, if you think about in the

1273
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,500
book in the Bible, and it's
referred to in the Book of

1274
01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:32,500
Mormon, but the writer says,
Will you have the book to

1275
01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:34,100
proceed forth in the mouth of a
Jew?

1276
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:36,300
So you have the creation, I'm
not going to include it.

1277
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:41,400
So we have the creation account,
which is geology in a very first

1278
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,900
part of it.
And then part of the temple

1279
01:19:43,900 --> 01:19:47,400
endowment is is showing the
creation account.

1280
01:19:47,500 --> 01:19:51,900
It's so important that God wants
to show that creation account

1281
01:19:51,900 --> 01:19:55,400
over and over and over.
He wants a embedded in our minds

1282
01:19:55,700 --> 01:19:58,000
about how the creation is
supposed to happen.

1283
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,600
So do you in the creation?
Is important enough to God, that

1284
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:06,600
that's what he wants us to know.
Absolutely.

1285
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:12,800
So today Darwin is the most
recognized person in the world.

1286
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,700
In the world.
He's the most recognized that

1287
01:20:16,700 --> 01:20:18,500
crazy.
That's nuts.

1288
01:20:18,700 --> 01:20:20,800
You'd think it would be Christ
or you think it's something

1289
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,700
else.
But it's actually Darwin, Darwin

1290
01:20:22,700 --> 01:20:25,600
is the most recognized persons
in the world.

1291
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,300
And you could probably take a
picture of this right here and

1292
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:34,000
and go to any University and
almost everyone to recognize it

1293
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:37,700
and a probably a decent
percentage would not even know

1294
01:20:37,700 --> 01:20:41,700
who their state senator is or
who they're, you know, sometimes

1295
01:20:41,700 --> 01:20:48,000
even the President right.
But they know this guy darwinian

1296
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,100
evolution is embraced and
accepted at 99 percent of All

1297
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:55,000
American universities, all of
them Christian, or non-secular

1298
01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:00,600
99% of all universities in
America embraced, Our Winning

1299
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,600
Evolution, and even a higher
percentage in European,

1300
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,700
universities, and darwinian
evolution is accepted in

1301
01:21:08,700 --> 01:21:15,800
universities around the globe.
And not only that we like to put

1302
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,500
our kids in front of simple,
benign, things like planet

1303
01:21:18,500 --> 01:21:22,400
Earth.
Well, all the shows about

1304
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:27,500
animals Landscapes history, even
cultural shows always always

1305
01:21:27,500 --> 01:21:31,100
bring in evolution.
This evoke this is billions of

1306
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:33,900
years old and that evolve to do
this and that and so forth.

1307
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,300
Yeah, you're know.
You're 100% correct.

1308
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:41,700
I know that's something that.
My, my five-year-old

1309
01:21:41,700 --> 01:21:45,300
granddaughter crawled up on my
lap and said, you know, Pappy

1310
01:21:45,300 --> 01:21:50,300
did you know them Earth is way
older even older than you and I

1311
01:21:50,300 --> 01:21:52,800
knew what she was getting at.
And I was like, yeah, I know,

1312
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,900
I'm pretty old and so, but and
you're right, it doesn't take

1313
01:21:57,900 --> 01:21:59,400
them long because it's
everywhere.

1314
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,600
Rest there were saturated with
it.

1315
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,000
Right.
So this is kind of the big

1316
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,500
picture of modern science if we
were to put it out there we

1317
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:11,800
would say that all humans have
evolved from an ape-like

1318
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,800
ancestor they'll always get you
if you say you evolved from apes

1319
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,300
because they don't say that they
say that you involved from an

1320
01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:21,700
ancestor that the Apes evolved
from like you have a common one.

1321
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:24,900
Okay, so we evolve from common
ape-like.

1322
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:29,300
Ancestors who evolved from
bacteria And where did that come

1323
01:22:29,300 --> 01:22:31,300
from?
That came from chemicals.

1324
01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:35,200
And chemicals came from The Big
Bang and the Big Bang came from

1325
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,000
nothing.
I have a book, actually, just

1326
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,800
sitting here on my desk, it's
called the universe from nothing

1327
01:22:41,300 --> 01:22:45,000
and it describes Stephen Hawking
describes how the universe came

1328
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,700
from nothing.
Okay, so that the whole modern

1329
01:22:48,700 --> 01:22:53,700
science construct is literally
based on that structure of

1330
01:22:53,700 --> 01:22:57,300
modern Science is based on a
foundation of nothing.

1331
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:03,000
So when he sees that when Nephi
and Lehi, see this building in

1332
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,400
the air floating, as it were in
the air, on a foundation of

1333
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:10,400
nothing, that's actually a
literal interpretation of what

1334
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,500
modern science is.
Built on built on.

1335
01:23:12,500 --> 01:23:16,300
The concept of everything came
from nothing before the Big

1336
01:23:16,300 --> 01:23:19,100
Bang.
Kind of interesting how

1337
01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:22,400
perfectly literary literally,
literally, that is, isn't it?

1338
01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:26,100
It is.
So, let me ask you this because

1339
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:28,900
I don't want to take away from
anything.

1340
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,700
Are we going to get at any point
here?

1341
01:23:31,700 --> 01:23:37,600
Into what the What the?
The fruits are of believing

1342
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,100
this.
Yeah, and probably you should

1343
01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:43,100
break this when you get to
publish, it may be again, 2 2

1344
01:23:43,700 --> 01:23:47,500
and let's just let's jump into.
I want to do one more thing.

1345
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:49,600
I want to tie it to the church
because this makes it more

1346
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,900
relevant.
You know, we've talked about all

1347
01:23:51,900 --> 01:23:56,300
the Sciences but now, let's talk
about the church and it doesn't

1348
01:23:56,300 --> 01:23:59,100
really matter where you come
from in the church, whether

1349
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:03,300
you're from any Divergent group
or the mainstream church, or

1350
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,500
Anything.
It's there's some commonality

1351
01:24:05,500 --> 01:24:10,200
you sure be the same thing
because we're all influencing

1352
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:11,600
each other.
Sure.

1353
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,000
So the story starts on this part
with a guy named George Tanner.

1354
01:24:16,300 --> 01:24:20,700
Now, George Tanner is one of the
Tanner family that his ancestor.

1355
01:24:20,700 --> 01:24:24,800
John Tanner is one that's often
recited in a and how he brought

1356
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,000
a lot of money to help Joseph
Smith out.

1357
01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:30,400
Okay, so he's a part of the
Tanner family, he's an Institute

1358
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,800
director at the University of
Idaho.

1359
01:24:33,700 --> 01:24:36,600
Okay, he's a descendant of this,
John Tanner.

1360
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,300
So he has these promises and he
became the Institute director in

1361
01:24:40,300 --> 01:24:43,800
1931 in the University divided.
Okay?

1362
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,500
But he's a progressive and he's
a, he's this intellectual Mormon

1363
01:24:48,500 --> 01:24:52,000
who taught his students one in
particular guy named Leonard,

1364
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,600
Arrington, Christianity and
science could be compatible, and

1365
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,600
that other translations of the
Bible, could assist him in his

1366
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:05,200
interpretation of the Bible.
So he's kind of setting this

1367
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,800
guy, he's an LDS guy, he's
teaching Institute and he's

1368
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:14,400
literally teaching his students
that Evolution and biblical

1369
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:19,200
criticism are okay.
Is this the first time with in

1370
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:25,000
Mormonism that that we see
somebody of any stature begin to

1371
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,500
make that that leap?
That.

1372
01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:30,100
Hey, not at all.
Okay.

1373
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:30,800
No.
No.

1374
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:35,100
Because John a whit.
So he was an apostle actually

1375
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:37,900
goes back to get his letters
from Back East University and

1376
01:25:37,900 --> 01:25:41,200
he's a trained biologist, and
he's influential, and getting

1377
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:45,200
the University of Utah.
Sorry.

1378
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:49,600
USU Utah, State University
accredited and Logan and then

1379
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,900
James Talmage goes, and he
becomes a geologist and so he's

1380
01:25:52,900 --> 01:25:55,200
trained on principles of
geology.

1381
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,000
So he whether his intent is, I
don't believe he either.

1382
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,300
One of these guys had intent, I
think they were just trained.

1383
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,700
In the modern scholarship and
then they were just trying to

1384
01:26:05,700 --> 01:26:09,100
bring it together because James
Talmage to help get BYU

1385
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:11,800
accredited and University of
Utah, credited.

1386
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:16,500
So these two got brought in some
of this stuff and did it.

1387
01:26:17,300 --> 01:26:20,700
What's different though?
Is that Johnny went so even

1388
01:26:20,700 --> 01:26:23,900
though he's a biologist still
affirms, the Divinity of Adam

1389
01:26:23,900 --> 01:26:26,400
and still talks about the
creation process, right?

1390
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,600
So he's he's blending his
theology.

1391
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,100
Well this guy's a lot more
Progressive and he's full-on

1392
01:26:31,100 --> 01:26:34,200
evolutionists.
So he teaches Leonard Arrington

1393
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,700
that it's okay to be an
evolutionist and Arrington, does

1394
01:26:39,300 --> 01:26:41,600
he?
He becomes this full-blown

1395
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:46,600
evolutionist and he's the church
historian from 1972 to 1982 for

1396
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,300
ten years.
He's the he's the church

1397
01:26:49,300 --> 01:26:52,200
historian and he Embraces
Evolution and while he's at the

1398
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:56,500
University of Idaho, he tells
people that I now accept these

1399
01:26:56,500 --> 01:27:00,600
things that I used to not.
But now I'm I used to be very

1400
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,900
violently opposed to them but
now Now I've accepted him, he

1401
01:27:03,900 --> 01:27:07,200
also accepts biblical criticism.
And what that really means is

1402
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:11,900
that The Bible is a collection
of things written by man.

1403
01:27:11,900 --> 01:27:14,700
They're not inspired, they're
not necessarily Revelation from

1404
01:27:14,700 --> 01:27:16,900
God.
They're just a collection of

1405
01:27:16,900 --> 01:27:20,700
writings that have to do with
the time of the age.

1406
01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:23,000
Okay.
But it gets a little bit more

1407
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,500
dicey with this.
He actually says that Jesus life

1408
01:27:26,500 --> 01:27:29,200
and Ministry.
Simply could not have taken

1409
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,900
place the way they're depicted
in the gospel.

1410
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:37,200
Geez.
So how does he become church

1411
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:41,600
historian?
The idea was Joseph Fielding

1412
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,400
Smith was church historian for
40 years and the only reason he

1413
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,400
stepped away from it is because
he's called is the prophet of

1414
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:52,200
the of the church, he stayed
church historian while he was an

1415
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,300
apostle and then he had to step
down from that.

1416
01:27:55,300 --> 01:27:58,800
And then that was given for two
years to Howard Hunter and then

1417
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,700
replaced by Leonard Arrington
because they kind of wanted this

1418
01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:06,700
new more professionally trained.
They actually brought him in,

1419
01:28:06,700 --> 01:28:09,200
because he was professionally
trained and they They wanted

1420
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,200
this kind of progressive
idealism with creeping in and

1421
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,700
they wanted somebody more
professional and he was, he was

1422
01:28:16,700 --> 01:28:21,200
constantly being called on the
carpet, especially by Ezra Taft.

1423
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:25,300
Benson that was a big battle in
his time.

1424
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,000
He wrote this is Arrington
himself wrote that he was unable

1425
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,100
to reconcile scientific.
Truth regarding the Book of

1426
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:36,600
Mormon with what he assumed to
be elements of religious truth.

1427
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,900
He literally doubted, the book
of Mormons truthfulness or

1428
01:28:39,900 --> 01:28:43,800
historicity.
Now he admitted that he only

1429
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,000
ever read through.
The Book of Mormon, one time in

1430
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:51,900
his life, he had also said that,
he, he said that Joseph thought

1431
01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:54,700
he saw the father, and the son,
and a mystical sense.

1432
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,900
And that the Book of Mormon did
not exist in a concrete literal

1433
01:28:57,900 --> 01:29:00,000
sense and said the scriptures
are not themselves.

1434
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:06,300
Divine revelation, holy cow.
So these do you know, this is

1435
01:29:06,500 --> 01:29:10,000
your bring this in and even
though that's why I said, it

1436
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,700
doesn't really matter because
all the Divergent groups, still

1437
01:29:13,700 --> 01:29:16,700
read the history that is coming
out of BYU.

1438
01:29:16,700 --> 01:29:21,400
They're still reading a book,
you know, the papers Joseph

1439
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,800
Smith, papers, the words of
Joseph teachings, of the Prophet

1440
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,600
Joseph.
That was compiled by Joseph

1441
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,300
Fielding Smith.
So we've all grown up no matter

1442
01:29:32,300 --> 01:29:34,600
where you come from.
If you You're Mormon at all,

1443
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:38,500
you've come from and red and
been influenced by these things

1444
01:29:38,500 --> 01:29:47,000
that are coming down the pipe.
Oh man, talk about letting the

1445
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,500
Enemy Inside the gate.
Right.

1446
01:29:50,500 --> 01:29:52,900
So Leonard Arrington sets in
motion, the rewriting of the

1447
01:29:52,900 --> 01:29:54,800
traditional Latter-Day.
Saint history from top to

1448
01:29:54,808 --> 01:29:58,400
bottom.
Okay, he changes it by taking

1449
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:02,400
out the Miracles and focusing on
the economics.

1450
01:30:02,500 --> 01:30:05,100
Okay.
That's the lot of a way that not

1451
01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:09,200
just in Mormon history, but in
all of Christian history, they

1452
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,400
take out the Miracles or the
workings.

1453
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:17,700
And they try to turn it into a
mechanical year doing this for

1454
01:30:17,700 --> 01:30:19,800
the purpose of making money.
It's all about.

1455
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,000
Survival of the fittest.
It's all about getting and

1456
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,100
whoever's the most economically,
you know, successful.

1457
01:30:27,500 --> 01:30:29,600
So that's what Leonard Arrington
did to.

1458
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,100
He took out some of the Miracles
and spent in the rewrite of the

1459
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:37,900
LDS church history, he spent ten
Pages, talking about zcm.

1460
01:30:37,900 --> 01:30:41,400
I and took out the spiritual
things that had happened to the

1461
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:42,800
Saints when they came to the
valley.

1462
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:48,400
It is some ways that seems kind
of marxian if that's a good way

1463
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:52,900
of putting it, because it's
almost like he's setting up this

1464
01:30:52,900 --> 01:30:58,900
idea of the oppressed versus the
oppressor class, right?

1465
01:30:58,900 --> 01:31:03,600
Because you're, if you If you
take out the Miracles and it's

1466
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:10,000
just a Treatise on economy that
was kind of marxist.

1467
01:31:10,700 --> 01:31:13,200
Marching.
Yeah, I propose that it's more

1468
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,900
luciferian because he's a
Marxist is serving.

1469
01:31:17,300 --> 01:31:20,500
That's the common.
Here is the is Lucifer, Satan,

1470
01:31:20,500 --> 01:31:24,000
he is the common thread in all
of this, right?

1471
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:29,300
So, Leonard Arrington, he's now
dead and he's passed on and he

1472
01:31:29,300 --> 01:31:32,600
has whatever his just rewards
are, but this guy still alive,

1473
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,700
Richard Bushman, he he was the
acolyte of Arrington.

1474
01:31:36,700 --> 01:31:40,700
In fact, Arrington was training
him to be the new guy.

1475
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:43,200
Yep.
You know, for whatever reason

1476
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,800
and he's successful, he served
as the editor, for the Joseph

1477
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,800
Smith papers, and now serves on
the national Advisory board for

1478
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,300
them.
So he's influential have been

1479
01:31:52,300 --> 01:31:54,200
called one of the most
important.

1480
01:31:54,300 --> 01:31:57,400
Scholars of American religious
history in the late 20th

1481
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,900
century.
And he taught at Columbia.

1482
01:32:00,900 --> 01:32:04,200
BYU Harvard, Austin University
of Delaware.

1483
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:07,100
So he's pretty well
credentialed, right?

1484
01:32:07,100 --> 01:32:11,100
He's the guy that has all the
stuff and he publishes this book

1485
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:13,100
in 2005.
Rough Stone Rolling.

1486
01:32:14,500 --> 01:32:18,500
And rough Stone Rolling
disparages the Smith family it.

1487
01:32:18,500 --> 01:32:23,000
Yep, this takes us all the way
back to Nathaniel Hawthorne, and

1488
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,600
the magic and the witches, and
that kind of stuff.

1489
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:31,000
And this is what what Bushman
did is he actually, Richard

1490
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:37,200
Bushman took the magic of those
witchcraft areas and he tries to

1491
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:41,400
infuse it into the Smith family
and he does it through the use

1492
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:45,800
of all anti-mormon material.
He There's no accounts no

1493
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:50,300
contemporary accounts that have
the Smith family involved in any

1494
01:32:50,300 --> 01:32:55,000
kind of Witchcraft whatsoever.
But Bushman puts it out there

1495
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,900
and gives the credibility from
these anti-mormon Publications

1496
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:01,800
and gives them the same
reliability.

1497
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,400
Its Joseph's own friends, so
it's let's go, let's go find

1498
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,100
Dave's enemies and we're going
to listen to them and we're

1499
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:09,900
going to not talk to your
friends with we're going to talk

1500
01:33:09,900 --> 01:33:12,300
to your enemies and that's who
we're going to believe the most

1501
01:33:12,500 --> 01:33:14,000
and that's what Richard Bushman
did.

1502
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:20,800
And And rough Stone Rolling.
You know, and it doesn't stop.

1503
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:25,800
I just Russ, I just last just
yesterday, you know, Saturday,

1504
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:30,400
excuse me, just Saturday, I did
a podcast on debunking, the

1505
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:34,100
latest theory around Joseph
Smith, which was he was taking

1506
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:36,200
mushrooms, and that's how he got
his Visions.

1507
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:42,500
I mean, it never stops.
That's just crazy, it's nuts.

1508
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:54,100
So, 100,000 copies have been
sold and this guy right here is

1509
01:33:55,700 --> 01:34:03,600
gone Berlin.
And, in fact, you know, I like

1510
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,900
to just talk about John Nolan
about how he uses rough Stone

1511
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:09,800
Rolling.
He, he said, said his vidcast

1512
01:34:09,900 --> 01:34:13,400
with the book, rough Stone
Rolling, and no man knows my

1513
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,800
history kind of set up behind
him, so when you're looking at

1514
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,200
him, you're seeing these two
things, right?

1515
01:34:18,300 --> 01:34:20,700
Yep.
I have a quick clip.

1516
01:34:20,700 --> 01:34:23,300
Can I play a clip for you?
Please do.

1517
01:34:23,900 --> 01:34:49,600
Please do.
You've got the guy that's the

1518
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:52,700
most prolific anti-mormon of our
day.

1519
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,100
Straight up telling us.
Rough Stone Rolling is

1520
01:34:57,100 --> 01:35:00,100
anti-mormon.
Yeah.

1521
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:06,500
And and it gets worse than that
even rust because I saw a like a

1522
01:35:06,500 --> 01:35:11,700
video clip on somebody's phone
of Bushman giving like this

1523
01:35:11,700 --> 01:35:15,600
private Fireside somewhere here.
Utah.

1524
01:35:16,300 --> 01:35:21,200
And he and basically, he says,
we have to rewrite our history,

1525
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,000
right?
If the church wants to survive,

1526
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:28,100
if Mormonism wants to survive,
we have to rewrite the history

1527
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,500
but we write it with what?
Yeah.

1528
01:35:31,500 --> 01:35:34,800
And we've got to take Joseph off
his pedestal, we gotta, you

1529
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,400
know, that's, that's destroy our
history.

1530
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,600
Let's just somehow that's going
to help us survive.

1531
01:35:40,900 --> 01:35:43,800
And, you know, I talked to
Hannah Stoddard about the same

1532
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:45,400
thing, right?
What?

1533
01:35:45,900 --> 01:35:49,400
It's the same pattern if you
look at what they did to the

1534
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:53,000
founders, right?
Which was if you want to, quote,

1535
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:57,300
progress past the Constitution,
you first have to progress past

1536
01:35:57,300 --> 01:35:59,900
the founders.
And so they discredited the

1537
01:35:59,900 --> 01:36:03,200
founders and I think now we're
at a point to where we're

1538
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:08,800
starting to see that.
Same tactic being used within

1539
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:12,100
Mormonism.
Sure, that's exactly right.

1540
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:14,800
The same person who wrote no,
man knows my history.

1541
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,200
On Brody, she also wrote a book
to disparage, Thomas Jefferson.

1542
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,100
That's where the whole idea of
Sally Hastings.

1543
01:36:22,100 --> 01:36:24,500
The child that, you know, that's
born out of wedlock to one of

1544
01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:27,000
his slaves.
That all comes from the same

1545
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,200
mindset, where she does this
psychological psychological

1546
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,300
analysis of these two people and
of.

1547
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,300
And so yeah.
Joseph Smith and and Thomas

1548
01:36:37,300 --> 01:36:41,000
Jefferson both get to fall under
her her Mighty pen.

1549
01:36:41,500 --> 01:36:45,600
And in the thing is once those
narratives take root Good luck.

1550
01:36:45,700 --> 01:36:51,100
Because even a DNA test, that
clearly showed that, that

1551
01:36:51,100 --> 01:36:56,700
Sally's kids weren't
Jefferson's, didn't matter,

1552
01:36:56,900 --> 01:36:58,900
didn't matter, right?
The narrative is there.

1553
01:36:58,900 --> 01:37:02,500
The Narrative is set and that's
what's been grabbed, hold of.

1554
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,500
Well I'm going to show you a
picture here because this is

1555
01:37:06,500 --> 01:37:10,700
what you're going to see if you
go to BYU today to the bean Life

1556
01:37:10,700 --> 01:37:16,200
Sciences Museum.
This is a full-on Evolution

1557
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:21,400
exhibit showing the evolution of
man and showing the evolution of

1558
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:28,000
the skulls of these and in on
their official page they say the

1559
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,800
church has no official position
on the theory of evolution.

1560
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,100
And so they've kind of set this
whole stage that it's true that

1561
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:36,700
we shouldn't be looking at the
scriptures.

1562
01:37:36,700 --> 01:37:38,500
We should just be looking at
science.

1563
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:43,200
Tea organic evolution or changes
inherited traits over time is a

1564
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:47,700
matter for scientific study,
their website says In other

1565
01:37:47,700 --> 01:37:50,700
words, it's not a matter to be
discussing in religion, it's all

1566
01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:56,100
about science.
Now, if you go to that same

1567
01:37:56,100 --> 01:38:00,400
Museum, And you've decided to go
to the second floor.

1568
01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:06,300
You're going to go up a series
of steps that will lead you with

1569
01:38:06,300 --> 01:38:12,000
a serpent to the second floor at
BYU at BYU.

1570
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:16,700
So the universities are
literally the new temples to

1571
01:38:16,700 --> 01:38:26,200
this ancient religion.
How do they get away with it

1572
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:30,200
though, right?
Why doesn't Why hasn't someone

1573
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,900
stepped in and said enough
enough?

1574
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,400
Right?
You want that?

1575
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:39,400
Go to go to Harvard, go to Yale.
Go to anywhere else.

1576
01:38:40,100 --> 01:38:43,100
How does that survive?
How does that thrive at BYU?

1577
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:48,000
Well, it's maddening.
This is where we turn the

1578
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,800
corner.
BNC 86 the wheat and the tares.

1579
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:56,100
And whenever the Savior gave a
parable, he used the parable to

1580
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:59,900
teach a lesson and Joseph Smith
actually did a lot of the same

1581
01:38:59,900 --> 01:39:04,300
things so we can look at nature
as as our thing.

1582
01:39:04,300 --> 01:39:09,300
And what he said is that in
section 86 is the field, is the

1583
01:39:09,300 --> 01:39:12,000
world in the apostles are the
Sowers of the seed.

1584
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:16,200
This is the, this is how the
Lord is interpreting, the wheat

1585
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,800
and the tares to Joseph Smith.
So I encourage you to read The

1586
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,500
whole section 86 but the I'm
just extracting a couple things

1587
01:39:22,500 --> 01:39:25,000
here and after they've fallen
asleep.

1588
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,300
Now there's only two times.
The apostles are on the Earth,

1589
01:39:27,300 --> 01:39:29,800
right?
You've only got of Christ or the

1590
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:33,300
time of Joseph.
So when he's receiving this

1591
01:39:33,300 --> 01:39:37,000
Revelation, he says after they
have fallen asleep, the great

1592
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,000
persecutor of the church, the
apostate, the whore even

1593
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:44,500
Babylon, that maketh All Nations
to drink of her Cup in whose

1594
01:39:44,500 --> 01:39:48,500
Hearts, the enemy even Satan's
its terrain behold.

1595
01:39:48,500 --> 01:39:52,800
He So with the tears are for the
tears, choke the, we can drive

1596
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,400
the church Into the Wilderness,
this the same wording and that

1597
01:39:56,400 --> 01:40:00,900
we tears that he's describing
here is actually the words that

1598
01:40:00,900 --> 01:40:04,100
Nephi uses to describe the great
and abominable church.

1599
01:40:04,900 --> 01:40:08,000
So these things are kind of side
by side, okay?

1600
01:40:08,500 --> 01:40:11,900
So the tears are planted that
the apostles fall asleep.

1601
01:40:11,900 --> 01:40:15,300
The tears get planted and in the
same section it says, let the

1602
01:40:15,300 --> 01:40:17,700
wheat and the tares grow
together until the Harvest is

1603
01:40:17,700 --> 01:40:20,900
fully right.
I think we're fully ripe and

1604
01:40:20,900 --> 01:40:23,900
the, the thing we need to do now
is gather out the wheat, from

1605
01:40:23,900 --> 01:40:30,900
among the tears to me, that is
go get your children out, get

1606
01:40:30,900 --> 01:40:34,900
your children out from among the
tears, get them out of the

1607
01:40:34,900 --> 01:40:38,900
school and that's really what we
need to do.

1608
01:40:38,900 --> 01:40:41,300
There's we need to ask this
question.

1609
01:40:41,300 --> 01:40:44,600
Is there really no official
position on Evolution or the age

1610
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,200
of the Earth?
Okay, how do we know about the

1611
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,700
creation the fall or the great
flood?

1612
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,700
Is it, as they say in modern
education?

1613
01:40:53,700 --> 01:40:56,500
Is it just a myth as
Progressive?

1614
01:40:56,500 --> 01:40:59,400
Education tells us or you might
hear is even worse.

1615
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,800
One.
Did the creator get it wrong?

1616
01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:04,300
When he told Moses, how he
created the Earth?

1617
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,800
So where exactly does this new
modern science Merit narrative

1618
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:14,300
come from.
So there's a process called

1619
01:41:14,300 --> 01:41:17,200
eisegesis.
That means we take our our

1620
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:21,100
interpretation of the world and
we shove it into Genesis not all

1621
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:25,200
of us do that to some degree
when we're thinking about, how

1622
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,700
to make sense of what we learn
in school with what the Bible

1623
01:41:27,700 --> 01:41:30,000
says.
We start blending our theology,

1624
01:41:30,300 --> 01:41:33,400
we bring in the outside
influence and we force it into

1625
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:38,100
Genesis what we really like.
The philosophies of men, mingled

1626
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:41,100
with scripture precisely.
Yeah.

1627
01:41:41,300 --> 01:41:44,300
This is what we really should be
doing, is taking what Genesis

1628
01:41:44,300 --> 01:41:48,500
says and then using it to
interpret the world.

1629
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:55,400
Okay, so this question.
That is posed.

1630
01:41:55,900 --> 01:41:58,200
Clear?
Back in a t-33 when Christ is

1631
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:02,000
standing before, Pontius Pilate
and pilate asked this question,

1632
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:03,900
I think this is hugely
important.

1633
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:09,500
What is truth The Christ had
already answered that.

1634
01:42:09,500 --> 01:42:13,400
He said, I am the way, the truth
and the life and no man cometh

1635
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:20,700
unto the father.
But by me, So in 1833, Joseph

1636
01:42:20,700 --> 01:42:24,500
Smith receives a revelation.
And he says in this Revelation

1637
01:42:24,500 --> 01:42:27,700
Christ is speaking to Joseph
Smith, Sidney, Rigdon and

1638
01:42:27,700 --> 01:42:30,500
Frederick G Williams.
The first presidency of the

1639
01:42:30,500 --> 01:42:32,400
church, so there's no higher
authority.

1640
01:42:32,700 --> 01:42:37,300
He speaking to all of us and
this is encoded in section 93.

1641
01:42:37,700 --> 01:42:40,800
I've commanded you to bring up
your children in light and

1642
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,800
Truth.
And then he says but you have

1643
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,400
not taught your children light
and Truth according to the

1644
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:50,300
Commandments and that Wicked one
has power as yet over you and

1645
01:42:50,300 --> 01:42:52,000
this is the cause of your
affliction.

1646
01:42:53,300 --> 01:42:58,500
Now, if we take it in context of
our day today, the cause of our

1647
01:42:58,500 --> 01:43:01,700
Affliction is, we haven't been
teaching them light and Truth.

1648
01:43:02,700 --> 01:43:04,800
And then the Lord gives him a
commandment.

1649
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,300
He says, if you will be
delivered, you shall set in

1650
01:43:07,300 --> 01:43:10,400
order your own house for there
are many things that are not

1651
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:16,100
right in your house.
Okay, so he's turning it back to

1652
01:43:16,100 --> 01:43:19,500
us through our own homes.
This is father's mother's.

1653
01:43:19,500 --> 01:43:22,600
Look at your own homes.
This is where you need to do.

1654
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,500
Okay so we should ask this
question what is light and truth

1655
01:43:26,700 --> 01:43:29,300
and DNC 93.
It says the glory of God is

1656
01:43:29,300 --> 01:43:32,500
intelligence or in other words,
light and truth.

1657
01:43:32,900 --> 01:43:37,400
So we need to teach our kids,
the glory of God and then this

1658
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:38,900
is something else.
That's pretty cool.

1659
01:43:38,900 --> 01:43:43,200
He says, the truth is knowledge
of things as they are as they

1660
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:51,100
were And as they are to come.
So truth is knowledge of things,

1661
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:54,700
right, right?
What what's the tree that Adam

1662
01:43:54,700 --> 01:43:58,000
and Eve were told that they
cannot partake of or it would

1663
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,300
bring death knowledge of Good
and Evil.

1664
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:04,500
Well the it's the tree of the
fruit of the tree of knowledge

1665
01:44:04,900 --> 01:44:07,700
and we say of Good and Evil and
that kind of diminishes what you

1666
01:44:07,700 --> 01:44:10,900
just said.
So truth is knowledge.

1667
01:44:10,900 --> 01:44:13,600
And if it's the truth, the fruit
of the tree of knowledge then

1668
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:17,000
what is it?
The fruit of the tree of Truth

1669
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:23,200
Right toe there. / taking of
this truth, which is light.

1670
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:29,100
And remember, Lee hyper takes of
the fruit of the tree of light,

1671
01:44:29,100 --> 01:44:31,600
right?
It's white and it's like, yeah,

1672
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:35,600
you know, he goes out of his way
to say it was white above all

1673
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:39,900
other white, he'd seen to that
point and yeah, no, you're

1674
01:44:39,900 --> 01:44:42,200
right.
So that's what it is.

1675
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,600
Is it that's light?
That's the truth right there.

1676
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,400
That's knowledge of truth and
light.

1677
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:50,300
It's all it's all tied together
and that's the one that the

1678
01:44:50,700 --> 01:44:53,800
great an abominable church is
mocking that church that's up in

1679
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:55,700
the air.
There's mocking the people that

1680
01:44:55,700 --> 01:45:00,600
are participating in the
partaking of the fruit of the

1681
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:04,500
tree of knowledge.
That's the fruit that we are

1682
01:45:04,500 --> 01:45:06,800
here on Earth to take to partake
of.

1683
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:08,400
Okay.
Now talk about we've been

1684
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:11,500
talking about 1830 and all these
things that are going on, right?

1685
01:45:11,500 --> 01:45:16,800
This is when all of modern
science is adopting the whole

1686
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:20,900
idea of a billions of year old
Earth and evolution.

1687
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,700
Okay 1830 well this is the same
year.

1688
01:45:23,700 --> 01:45:26,500
The principles of geology is
published, it's also the same

1689
01:45:26,500 --> 01:45:28,100
year of the Book of Mormon was
published.

1690
01:45:29,100 --> 01:45:30,800
Yeah.
But you months after the Book of

1691
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:34,700
Mormons published Joseph
receives a Relation to translate

1692
01:45:34,700 --> 01:45:37,800
the Bible.
Okay.

1693
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:41,400
And then the translation of the
Bible, this is in July of 1830,

1694
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:46,100
the very first thing that
happens is he receives A

1695
01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:50,600
revelation about Moses and what
happened with Moses on Mount

1696
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:55,000
Sinai.
Okay, and Moses has a counties

1697
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:58,100
that he's a, he has his counsel
with the crater, it goes up the

1698
01:45:58,100 --> 01:45:59,000
burning bush.
Right?

1699
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:02,500
That says, take your the put the
shoes off your feet.

1700
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:07,000
So he's actually meeting with
the Creator and the Creator

1701
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,100
tells him things, and you can
read Moses.

1702
01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:12,000
And, you know, know the most of
it I'm going to just draw out a

1703
01:46:12,008 --> 01:46:15,400
couple of points here.
As one, he says Moses, I will

1704
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:19,300
speak to you concerning the
Earth upon which you stand and I

1705
01:46:19,300 --> 01:46:21,600
want you to write the things
which isil speak.

1706
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,000
This is in the revelation, we
can read it as Moses, chapter 1.

1707
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:29,200
If you have an inspired version,
we actually have those.

1708
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,100
I bought 1000 of those Bibles.
It'll be here in July.

1709
01:46:32,300 --> 01:46:36,600
I mean January, wow of the
inspired virgin Deluxe leather

1710
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:39,800
version.
And anyway you can really this

1711
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:44,400
is the Revelation that Joseph
Smith receives and then chapter

1712
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:49,000
1 of Genesis or Moses chapter 2,
it says it came to pass the Lord

1713
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:52,900
spoke to Moses saying behold I
Oh, unto you concerning this

1714
01:46:52,900 --> 01:46:57,500
heaven and this Earth write The
Words which I speak so he tells

1715
01:46:57,500 --> 01:47:01,000
them I'm going to tell you and
then he says, okay now I'm going

1716
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:03,200
to tell you now let's compare
these two.

1717
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,500
Okay first of all, then the King
James version.

1718
01:47:05,500 --> 01:47:08,800
It says, in the beginning, God
created the Heaven and the Earth

1719
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:11,200
and the Earth was without form
and void.

1720
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,700
And darkness was upon the face
of the deep.

1721
01:47:13,700 --> 01:47:16,900
And the spirit of God moved upon
the face of the waters.

1722
01:47:16,900 --> 01:47:19,900
And God said, let there be light
and there was light.

1723
01:47:22,100 --> 01:47:25,300
Now, in the inspired version, it
changes it to this.

1724
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:29,000
Yay.
In the beginning, I created the

1725
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,100
Heaven and the Earth upon, which
thou standest.

1726
01:47:31,500 --> 01:47:33,300
And the Earth was without form
and void.

1727
01:47:33,300 --> 01:47:37,700
And I cause Darkness to come
upon the face of the need and my

1728
01:47:37,700 --> 01:47:40,800
spirit moved upon the face of
the waters for.

1729
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:44,600
I am God, and I God said, let
there be light, and there was

1730
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,900
light.
You see the difference?

1731
01:47:47,100 --> 01:47:49,700
Yeah, in the original King
James.

1732
01:47:49,900 --> 01:47:55,400
It is in third person.
Narrative, but in the inspired

1733
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,800
version, it is in first-person
narrative.

1734
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:01,700
It is the creator telling my
story.

1735
01:48:01,700 --> 01:48:06,500
It's my story right now the
yeah, the Lord's talking to

1736
01:48:06,500 --> 01:48:09,700
Moses.
Just like you said, Moses, write

1737
01:48:09,700 --> 01:48:15,000
this down and he's telling him
my story of how I created the

1738
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,000
Heaven and the Earth.
He's not making a mistake or an

1739
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,700
assumption or telling him to go,
grab some information from some

1740
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:25,500
Ian text, he's telling him.
This is my story.

1741
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,900
And to me that's about as
official and a position as you

1742
01:48:29,900 --> 01:48:34,300
can get church.
This is from Joseph Smith as a

1743
01:48:34,300 --> 01:48:37,600
revelation given to him by
commandment to do it.

1744
01:48:38,700 --> 01:48:42,100
And we need to literally put
that into our brains all the

1745
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:46,900
time.
So in first Nephi chapter 13 is

1746
01:48:46,900 --> 01:48:48,600
says They seized the formation
of a great.

1747
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,300
An abominable Church founded by
the Devil with the intent of

1748
01:48:51,300 --> 01:48:53,000
bringing the people into
captivity.

1749
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,500
And in chapter 14, it says there
are two churches.

1750
01:48:57,500 --> 01:49:00,600
Only one is the Lamb of God, the
others, the Church of the devil.

1751
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:05,500
And then in section 88 it
clarifies that another Angel

1752
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:09,400
shall say, the great church, the
mother of abomination, she's the

1753
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,600
tears of the earth so that great
church.

1754
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:14,900
Remember there's only two
churches.

1755
01:49:14,900 --> 01:49:18,200
So great you can see 80s has
that great church the mother of

1756
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:23,400
abomination she's the tears and
section. 88 told us that the

1757
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:28,300
enemy plants the tears.
You see that that how that all

1758
01:49:28,300 --> 01:49:33,400
connects to that, absolutely.
So it comes down to Simply this

1759
01:49:34,100 --> 01:49:36,900
this is a story of three
prophets, no matter what side

1760
01:49:36,900 --> 01:49:39,200
you want to be on.
It's a story of three prophets

1761
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:41,200
either.
The three Province called of

1762
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:45,300
God, Moses who receives this
Revelation from God.

1763
01:49:45,300 --> 01:49:49,300
This is how I did it.
Joseph Smith who receives and

1764
01:49:49,300 --> 01:49:51,800
actually meets Moses by the way,
meets him in the Kirtland

1765
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:52,900
Temple.
Yep.

1766
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:54,900
Defy.
Who prophesize of it.

1767
01:49:54,900 --> 01:50:01,000
So these three together form,
this Triune of profits, that All

1768
01:50:01,008 --> 01:50:04,800
of the creation tell of the lie
that's going to be told warned

1769
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:08,200
against it and receive the
Revelation to teach to tell us,

1770
01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:12,100
you better teach your children,
the light and Truth which is the

1771
01:50:12,100 --> 01:50:17,600
true creation set in order your
houses or you can choose to

1772
01:50:17,700 --> 01:50:21,800
believe these guys Charles Lyell
Charles Darwin and Karl Marx.

1773
01:50:24,300 --> 01:50:27,300
That's that's really what it
comes down to, which of those

1774
01:50:27,300 --> 01:50:32,800
two are the prophets in your
home, that get the most

1775
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,600
credibility.
Now we probably have some of

1776
01:50:35,608 --> 01:50:41,600
both But I would submit, we need
to get rid of one group and

1777
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:45,000
teach our children light and
Truth.

1778
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So Russ real quick.
And I'm just going to ask you to

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be Blunt honest, I'm a guy who
values just being blunt.

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That's what I love about the
gospel is that there's not a lot

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of gray area, right?
Let's talk about how how we can

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do that, right?
How we can go and get our kids

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because for a lot of folks and I
sympathize with them, right?

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And we saw this during covid, is
that We're now in a society

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where people feel that it takes
two incomes, just to make it

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work, right?
Just to get by, how do we go and

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get our kids?
How do we do that?

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Well I'm going to be blunt to
because I think quite frankly

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figure out how to get your kids
out of school.

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If you means you had to live on
less got to sell some of your

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toys.
Got to do something.

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God knows your need.
He'll help you do it.

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Get your kids out of school and
I'm not the only one, you've

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their secular species.
Candace Owens is saying, she

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said the same thing.
Get your kids out of school.

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We've only touched on the on the
top level stuff, there are

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things that are even worse.
I think you've got to Get your

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kids out of school but he didn't
even in our own churches.

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We need to remember that.
Joseph Smith was given a

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revelation during the formation
of the church that said that we

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the church and he said he
speaking.

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He says and that church it says
speaking to the church that we

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need to give heed to all his
words and Commandments Joseph

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were received the Bible the
translation by commandment from

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God and they are his words and
if we don't teach them and

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section 93, It says teach them
light and truth.

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And if we do this, if we will
teach them truth, the Gates of

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Hell shall not Prevail against
us.

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And the Lord God will disperse
the powers of Darkness, from

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before you and cause the Heavens
to shake for your good.

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That's a promise.
It was given to us if we will

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listen to what Joseph Smith said
and will read this, those

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inspired version of The Gospel,
it's absolutely there in front

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of us.
So I would say that.

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Get your kids out of school.
Don't just teach them the

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classics.
Don't take them out and teach

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him a secular education, get
into something that you can.

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And in fact, one of the things
we in our whole philosophy, our

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homeschool is the first year
just get them out and have them

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be by you not on school.
These School them, General learn

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more.
If Dave Sanders kids came home

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and spent the day with Dave and
his wife, they will learn more.

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Than they would ever learn at
school, just teach him what, you

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know, just have conversation,
you know?

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And realize that the universal
model is something that the even

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you and I didn't grow up with
and so how can you teach

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something you don't know.
That means you need to learn it

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with them.
Yeah.

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Study the inspired version of
the Bible with your kids not

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just gloss over like we're doing
and come follow me, that's great

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that we have that but we should
dive into and study.

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Regenesis.
The entire gospel is in the

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first twelve chapters of the
inspired version of Genesis. you

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know, I'm I usually try to be
very measured in what I say on

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here because I never want to go
off half-cocked. however, and I

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don't say this lightly, we are
in a battle for the souls of our

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children, all of us, whether
you're a fundamentalist, whether

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you're a mainstream LDS guy,
whether you're, you know,

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somewhere in between.
I don't care if you're Catholic,

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I don't care.
If you're Protestant or Lutheran

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or whatever the case is, we are
right now in a battle for the

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souls of our children.
And if we don't recognize what

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it is, whether we like it or
not, the powers of Darkness have

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declared war on us, and it's
going to be up to us to respond

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right now.
I'm not talking violence.

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I'm just talking about getting
your kids out of that system

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that meat grinder and bring them
home and I get it there

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sacrifices to be made.
We've certainly had to make ours

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but it's If we don't the price
is too high, it is too high.

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I agree.
It's just and I don't know, I

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mean I'm not trying to make
anybody's life hard but the

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bottom line is, we have our
first and most important

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fundamental responsibility is to
our children, turning the hearts

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of our children to us and US
turning our hearts to them and

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figuring.
However, we got to do it,

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whatever you can work out with
family with friends with coops

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with Something.
But like I say don't just bring

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the classics in find ways that
you can teach that.

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You can fulfill what Joseph said
to teach light and truth and I

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think the scriptures you got to
integrate the scriptures and if

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it teaches something that's not
true to scriptures don't teach

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it.
Don't teach Things that teach

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Evolution.
It's you know, I mean it's okay

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to teach them in a sense that
they need to know because we

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don't want them to be so
ignorant when they get out in

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the world that they don't know
about this, we need to teach

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them but we need to expose the
darkness.

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Absolutely.
You know, the other thing I

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remember when we jerked are
twins out of school and I worked

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in a place where this this lady
came and said you know I don't

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think I could ever do that cuz
I'm not qualified.

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And I just remember thinking,
what do you mean?

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You're not qualified.
You're you're uniquely qualified

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to teach your kids.
They are our children.

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We know better than any teacher.
Any Administration, any

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principle, any school counselor?
We are uniquely qualified

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because they're ours.
And I think for too long, we've

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bought into this lie that unless
we have a degree.

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We we can't teach our kids.
Yeah, I totally agree with you

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today that's if there's one
thing we could do is convince

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parents that you're enough.
You can do it your enough.

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Don't worry about, don't worry
about you.

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They don't need a social group
of people to go be taught by

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their peers.
They'll have plenty of

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opportunity to do it, you know.
Don't worry about that.

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You don't know enough of that.
You're going to somehow stifle

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them.
It's just simply not true.

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No, they'll teach them engage
them in conversation about

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things.
Yeah.

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And you know what, if your kids
don't fit into the society?

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Good good.
You've done what you were

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supposed to good.
Well I think that even more than

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that let's let's start teaching
them to become as I am like

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people.
Yep, let's teach him the truth

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and knowledge and let's teach
them not to fight in the coral

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and to look for each other and
to help out and do what we're

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all of us.
If we, if you're baptized then

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you've made a commitment to Bear
the name of Christ and the bear,

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the burdens of others who have
made that same commitment.

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Absolutely.
Absolutely.

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Well, Russ, you're an absolute
rock star, dude, I could sit and

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talk with you all night.
I really could.

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So let's do it again soon
because I want to dive back into

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the science stuff there with the
universal model.

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Yeah, I'd like to to I'm I'd
like to kind of dive into our

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teaching philosophy and how
would we take in the Universal

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model and geography?
And kind of brought it into

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workbooks that we use and how we
use them?

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Because it's a little different.
It's Project based, and it's

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based on Conversation.
It's not there's no teacher Ki

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actually the spirit.
Guided us not to do that for the

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very expression reason that that
we need to learn how to listen

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to the spirit in our teaching,
so maybe we can do that again.

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We can jump into both the
science solutely that science.

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Absolutely, that sounds
fantastic.

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Let's, let's stick around after
we end the recording and you and

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I will work out a time, okay,
sounds good.

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Thanks Dave, awesome, thank you.
Russ.

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All right, everyone.
See you next time.