Episode #185:Letting Their Light Shine W/Jeff, Vanessa, & Sharis Alldredge

1
00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,760
The.
You're listening to the Mormon

2
00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:40,280
Renegade podcast.
It's the Aldridge's.

3
00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,720
How's it going?
Well, yeah.

4
00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,880
Can't complain too much.
Good.

5
00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,160
Only a little.
Bit.

6
00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,080
It's all right you.
You got to complain a little

7
00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,280
bit.
You got to know the bitter from

8
00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,680
the sweet a little bit.
And what good is it just knowing

9
00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,880
if you don't compare and
contrast from time to time?

10
00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,040
So there you go, See.
And that's how I've stayed

11
00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,720
married this long.
Years of training on my part.

12
00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:11,240
Years and years, yeah, that,
that sort of thing.

13
00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:16,840
There doesn't come without many,
many nights realizing that you

14
00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,120
don't have to say everything
that comes into your head so.

15
00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,800
I haven't learned that yet.
Don't.

16
00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:26,840
No, you.
Well look, all I've done is

17
00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,120
learn to control it, right?
It's not so much about

18
00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,240
controlling it as it is aiming
it.

19
00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,720
So I like that.
But anyway, everything's going

20
00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,000
good out there in South Dakota.
Sure is.

21
00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,840
Yep, sounds like it.
You guys got big stuff on the

22
00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,800
horizon.
Yeah.

23
00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,280
I think so.
Yeah.

24
00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,680
Tell us a little bit about this.
What?

25
00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,240
What do you got going?
Who wants to jump right in

26
00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,840
there?
I'm learning.

27
00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,320
I'm going to control it,
Therese.

28
00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,480
Why don't you tell them what's
up?

29
00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,920
Well, after many years of
working towards it, we are

30
00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,320
finally ready to begin our
YouTube channel So.

31
00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,639
Right back into the public
spotlight.

32
00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,880
Yes, Yep.
It always is.

33
00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,360
It's good.
You guys are going to do great.

34
00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:20,680
So what's what's the channel
going to primarily focus on?

35
00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,960
I think the channel is gonna be
focused on couple of things, our

36
00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,960
family life, but aspects of our
family life.

37
00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,280
So our homesteading elements,
the fact that we are a

38
00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,840
polygamous family, we'll talk a
lot about that because there's

39
00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:45,160
always such interest there and,
you know, gardening, diving,

40
00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,560
horse training, homesteading,
homeschooling, cooking.

41
00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,960
Just a little bit of everything.
So this is this is going to be a

42
00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,320
more in depth look than what
what you had last time, right?

43
00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,960
For sure.
Yeah, I'd say so.

44
00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,120
A.
Lot of the stuff that we hope to

45
00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,400
be able to cover before, but now
we can.

46
00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,400
This will give us a little bit,
a lot actually, not just a

47
00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,720
little bit, but a lot of
creative content that we had

48
00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,280
hoped we could do.
Yeah.

49
00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,600
Being on working with the
production company and doing

50
00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,680
reality TV, you're, there's only
so much you can say.

51
00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,880
They have their agendas and what
they, the story they're telling.

52
00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,640
And so currently they're the
storytellers.

53
00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,160
And this time we get to be the
storytellers and share the

54
00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,080
things that that are on our
minds and kind of direct things

55
00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,320
from our own perspective.
And I'm, I'm looking forward to

56
00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,280
that element of it.
Yeah.

57
00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,360
OK, All right.
Well, and the the nice thing

58
00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,160
about about YouTube and those
sorts of social media apps is

59
00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:55,560
that you can reveal as much or
as little as you want right

60
00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,960
there, like last time.
And not that it was a bad thing,

61
00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:06,280
but there was this very specific
goal in mind with that Channel,

62
00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,480
right, with with that program,
right, which was, it was about

63
00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,280
you guys in your search for
another, another wife, right.

64
00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,680
And so the ability to tell the
story of what you guys are

65
00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,120
really all about was probably
Hanford, I would imagine a

66
00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,240
little bit because they've got
to then focus on the rest of the

67
00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,160
folks in the program.
And you only got so much time

68
00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,480
for an episode by the time you
take out commercials and that

69
00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,240
sort of thing that you're really
left just to to do that.

70
00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,720
Right.
And and their aim was to show

71
00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:43,440
aspects of courtship, which is
very interesting, but it's only

72
00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,520
one piece of the puzzle.
You know when you like a miss

73
00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,600
family.
Courtship is only one element.

74
00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,280
There's so much about the
relationship dynamics of the

75
00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:56,000
existing family and how they
function and how they make

76
00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,240
things work.
Yeah, right, right.

77
00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,240
No, I could see that.
And and so yeah, that's, that's

78
00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,880
exciting that they're going to
get, they're going to get like

79
00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,400
an upfront view on what you guys
got going.

80
00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,560
Yeah.
It's true, True, Dave.

81
00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,080
So have you thought about some
of the challenges you guys are

82
00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,040
going to, I mean, what, what
some of the things that's spooky

83
00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:23,160
about giving people that much
opportunity to see your family?

84
00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,400
Have you thought about that at
all?

85
00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,480
Definitely.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's one of

86
00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,800
those deals.
I mean, we did before and we've

87
00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,920
been public.
So we've already entered that

88
00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:39,560
arena, but to to continue it is
is kind of spooky, but I think

89
00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,720
that there's a lot of goodness
in sharing family life.

90
00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,360
And we had so many people reach
out to us before from all over

91
00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:53,160
the world and just thank us for
they're in our family with them.

92
00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,000
And so it pays off.
You know, it's kind of similar

93
00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,440
to doing missionary work, you
know, in it back in the days

94
00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,240
with in the church, absolutely
kind of scary to go out there.

95
00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,920
But it was a great experience
and you know, you get up every

96
00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,120
day and go out and meet people
and the people that you do meet,

97
00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,920
it just makes it wonderful, a
good experience.

98
00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,080
Yeah, You know, that's been the
thing that that surprised me the

99
00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,440
most, even with the podcast,
right?

100
00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,360
And don't get me wrong, I get my
share of hate mail for sure.

101
00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,880
But by and large, when when I
encounter someone who knows the

102
00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,240
podcast or whatever, even if
they're not Mormon of any

103
00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,200
stripe, there tends to be like,
hey, I appreciate this because I

104
00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,040
got to see the why, right?
And again, because of the time

105
00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,320
restraints, I don't think you
guys probably had a chance to

106
00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,800
really talk about your why,
right?

107
00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,240
Why are you doing this?
Have you guys thought about how

108
00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,560
you're going to tell that a
little bit?

109
00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,800
Because the religion is a big
part of of why we do this,

110
00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,360
right?
I mean, it's not the only part,

111
00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,200
but it is a part that deserves
to be addressed, right?

112
00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,680
For sure, definitely.
I, I think part of what makes

113
00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,760
doing what we're doing scary as
it went to anybody is that we

114
00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,800
are exposing ourselves to the
public eye to all the criticisms

115
00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,640
that come with that.
But thankfully we've experienced

116
00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,120
people's gratitude and, and, and
actually gotten feedback on how

117
00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,880
that's changed their life for
the better.

118
00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,320
And so we get to see that it's
worth it.

119
00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,280
And that's part of our why to
share what we have, which is the

120
00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:47,960
gospel of Jesus Christ and this
family that we have that is, you

121
00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,640
know, a plural family.
And there's beautiful elements

122
00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,760
to that.
That's why it's part of the

123
00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,600
gospel.
And so we get to share that with

124
00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,360
people and combating the
misconceptions that are out

125
00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,440
there there.
I mean, we all know there are

126
00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,040
just Horror Story after Horror
Story in the news about

127
00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,440
mistreatment, you know, the
Warren just group and all that

128
00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,000
kind of stuff.
That is awful.

129
00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,640
But that's not everybody.
That's probably a significant

130
00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:18,760
minority.
Yeah.

131
00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,640
And so we're just trying to show
people, look, this family is

132
00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,120
good, wholesome, and people who
live this way can be great

133
00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,400
people.
And this is a beautiful way of

134
00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,520
life.
So I think that's part of our

135
00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,440
why perhaps you guys have a
different perspective as well.

136
00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,240
No, I was, I was going to say
almost the same thing that part

137
00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,039
of our why is to show people
that these negative stereotypes

138
00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:45,440
that they've, they've all
associate with polygamy.

139
00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,960
That's the minority.
And really it it's very little

140
00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,120
to do with polygamy and more to
do with the evil people who are

141
00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,800
using polygamy to further their
own negative evil agenda.

142
00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:04,760
You know, you get you get people
like Warren Jeffs in all types

143
00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,600
of lifestyles.
It's not just polygamy, but that

144
00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:16,840
seems to be the only element of
no I, so I forgot how to say

145
00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,320
this.
People tend to lump these things

146
00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,680
together and it's just not.
It's just not accurate.

147
00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,880
Right.
Yeah.

148
00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,200
No, you know, I was just in a
meeting, a church meeting here a

149
00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,360
couple weeks ago and I remember
we were discussing some things

150
00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,720
and, you know, Warren, the topic
of Warren Jeffs came up and and

151
00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,040
it was, you know, in regards to,
you know, how, how it was we

152
00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,240
were going to to make a positive
impact, right?

153
00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,880
And the thing, the thing that
that I had to tell them, right?

154
00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,360
And, and I think they knew the.
Aldridge.

155
00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,960
Family instinctively.
Oops.

156
00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:03,240
The thing that that you have to
understand is that we're all

157
00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,720
kind of in that boat now, right?
Whether we like it or not,

158
00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,480
because of the way the media
painted things, we now have to

159
00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:19,320
do some, some repair, right?
Because let's face it, if if any

160
00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,920
of us were on the outside
looking in, we'd have been like,

161
00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,760
and we weren't already living
this lifestyle or have this,

162
00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,880
these feelings or done our
homework or what have you.

163
00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,720
We would have been like, no,
keep that as far away from me as

164
00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,200
we can, right?
Like, I mean, is what they're

165
00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,280
showing then that is awful.
Yep.

166
00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,880
Different things, yeah.
Yep, absolutely.

167
00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,000
And so I, I feel like, I feel
like that what you're doing is,

168
00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,720
is sorely needed from the
standpoint not only of, of

169
00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,800
addressing people who are just
interested, but doing that, that

170
00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,280
repair work, right, 'cause it
is.

171
00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,640
We have to rebuild the bridges.
And look, I want to say it's not

172
00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,080
fair, right?
But it is the reality.

173
00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,640
We have to be the ones to repair
the bridge that Warren managed

174
00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,360
to burn down.
And it's it's going to take some

175
00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,360
work on our part and some
uncomfortability.

176
00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,720
So I, I really do applaud you
guys for taking this step.

177
00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,800
It's huge.
What were you going to say?

178
00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,320
I could tell you were going to
say something there.

179
00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,680
Me, probably.
I was going to say something.

180
00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,040
Always.
No.

181
00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:30,720
My thoughts were when we were
originally approached to go on

182
00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,160
the TV show and become public,
it was, it was really scary

183
00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,640
because all of these, you know,
the realities of being in the

184
00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,360
public is, is just there.
But that's part of why we

185
00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,440
decided to do it, because the
opportunity came to us.

186
00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,200
And we were.
Approached and so it wasn't

187
00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,320
something we were seeking for,
it kind of just fell in our lap.

188
00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,720
And after a great deal of
prayerful consideration, we

189
00:11:53,720 --> 00:12:00,000
decided to do it because it was
a great opportunity for us to

190
00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,040
stand up and do something
positive.

191
00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,240
And I don't think any of us felt
at the end of the day like we

192
00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,560
could turn that down.
It was kind of a almost like a

193
00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,400
responsibility that came and it
was like, all right, well, we

194
00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,040
have this, let's, let's do it.
Gotcha.

195
00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,520
I'm going to ask another
question here and and that is

196
00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,520
who had the idea first to do
this?

197
00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,000
The YouTube channel, yeah,
wasn't me.

198
00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,000
You know, I think over the years
we've talked about it.

199
00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,040
I don't remember when.
We first moved here, we

200
00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,520
actually, we actually bought all
a lot of the equipment and

201
00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,240
anticipation of, of being able
to create our own content.

202
00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,280
We've just never, never the
timing hasn't been right, been

203
00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,120
been busy.
And it it's one of those things

204
00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,960
that you put off unless you can
or unless you force your weight,

205
00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:57,360
you know, it's just hard.
And so the timings is just right

206
00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:02,560
now and it's time to do it.
Yeah, I think it's kind of you

207
00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:05,240
were a big driver in that
because you got that missionary

208
00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:10,160
spirit you want to get out there
and, you know, share and talk.

209
00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,080
And I think Cherise, you've
always been pretty game for that

210
00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,280
as well.
I'm probably the most hesitant.

211
00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,400
I would love to just live in a
little like hermit like state

212
00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,040
and.
No she wouldn't.

213
00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,880
She needs people too.
Much.

214
00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,440
Awesome.
Let's take a look at the video

215
00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,160
real quick.
We'll we'll scope out like the

216
00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,720
first 90 seconds or something
and then we'll, we'll come back

217
00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,560
here because I want, I want to
give people a chance to, to look

218
00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:40,680
at this.
So give me just one second here.

219
00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,840
Hi everybody.
We're the Aldridge family.

220
00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,600
I'm Vanessa, and this is my
husband Jeff, and this is his

221
00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,200
other wife, Charisse.
Hello.

222
00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:49,920
We're a polygamous family living
in the Black Hills of South

223
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,000
Dakota.
For those of you who may be

224
00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,120
meeting us for the first time.
We want to.

225
00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,360
Tell you a little bit about
ourselves and introduce you to

226
00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,440
our family.
Jeff and I have been married for

227
00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:05,720
over 17 years, have three
children, Dane, Zara and

228
00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,640
Sebastian.
I was.

229
00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,040
Raised in a polygamous family
with two moms of my own and

230
00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,680
decided in my teen years that I
wanted to be a sister.

231
00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:16,560
Wife.
Jeff and I have been married for

232
00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:23,560
16 years and have five children,
Daniel, Gallinar, Misty,

233
00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:30,160
Serenity and Chloe.
I was born and raised in the

234
00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,760
mainstream Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter Day Saints, or

235
00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,720
the Mormon Church, which
abandoned the practice of

236
00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,560
polygamy 135 years ago.
I love the church.

237
00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,800
In fact, if if you had told me
in my younger years that I was

238
00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,720
going to be a polygamist, I'd
have thought you were crazy.

239
00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,160
However, through many remarkable
experiences, I came to

240
00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,880
understand that God had
something different in.

241
00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,680
Store for my life.
He led me to these two ladies

242
00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,480
and we've had some amazing
adventures in the years we've

243
00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,000
been together.
We're excited as this channel is

244
00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,600
going to give us the chance to
answer some of the questions we

245
00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,000
haven't been able to answer.
Before that's awesome.

246
00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,880
OK, So I, I got a couple
questions there as we've

247
00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,400
reviewed that a little bit.
First off, kids are going to be

248
00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,560
a little more involved it looks
like this time around.

249
00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,320
Think so, yeah.
Have you talked to him about

250
00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,800
that?
Yeah, I most of them are very

251
00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,480
excited.
You know the older, the older

252
00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,960
ones as they get older like.
Right.

253
00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,920
We're not certainly not going to
force any of them to do anything

254
00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,000
they don't want to do.
Yeah, yeah, the younger ones are

255
00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,960
pretty darn excited, yeah.
Yeah, the, the younger ones tend

256
00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,040
to do that.
The older ones, like I took, I

257
00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,800
took one of my older kids with
me once when I had a conference

258
00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,560
I had to speak at.
And it was, it was, you know, a

259
00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:03,720
gospel related conference.
And I remember he just looked so

260
00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,480
uncomfortable, the poor kid,
right?

261
00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,480
And I'm like, are you OK?
And he's like, yeah, I'm fine.

262
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,040
And we talked a little bit and
on the way home and he was good.

263
00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,920
I think it boils down to you,
once your kids get to a certain

264
00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,720
age, like they want you to drop
them off like a block before

265
00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,240
they get to school, right?
I mean, they just get to that

266
00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,480
point where where, you know, mom
and dad just aren't cool

267
00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,880
anymore.
And so I think there's probably

268
00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,560
some of that at play, but I, I'm
sure when it once it takes off,

269
00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,640
they'll they'll probably change
it up a little bit right as.

270
00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,480
You're going to say that
happened to me when my first

271
00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:47,840
child was in kindergarten, Dave.
And on the after about 3 days of

272
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:53,240
driving her to to school she
started asking to be let off a a

273
00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,000
block or two away.
And I realized it was probably a

274
00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,560
combination of the truck I had
bought for like 150 bucks and

275
00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,440
just me.
And so kids probably said

276
00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,440
something, but she was just
embarrassed to be seen in that

277
00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,440
truck with her dad on the way to
school as a kindergartner.

278
00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,400
All right, do we got do we got
time for a Side Story?

279
00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,160
Sure, do it.
All right, so Speaking of

280
00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:22,599
embarrassing your kids, I had a
daughter who was a good girl.

281
00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:28,600
I mean, didn't test me at all.
But there was one time that that

282
00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,520
she was kind of getting in with
a group of friends that me and

283
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,520
her mom didn't necessarily
approve of.

284
00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,320
Right.
And so one night, it was a

285
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,880
Saturday night and usually by
the time about 8:00 rolls

286
00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,360
around, I'm like, OK, you're
done on a Saturday night because

287
00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,560
we got to be ready for church in
the morning and that sort of

288
00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,840
thing.
And she comes to me and she

289
00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,400
says, hey, dad, I, I want to go
shopping with my friends at the

290
00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,760
mall.
And I'm like, well, it's like,

291
00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,120
it's like 8:00.
You know, there's, there's

292
00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:57,400
nothing good it's going to
happen out there.

293
00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,680
Why don't you shut it down?
And it's a three day weekend.

294
00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,040
I'll let you go Monday for as
long as you want and I'll even

295
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,480
fund the trip, right?
So we're, we're gathering

296
00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,680
everybody up for a family prayer
and my daughter's not there.

297
00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,320
And I'm like, where is she?
So getting downstairs to her

298
00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,360
room and the windows open and
she's nowhere to be found.

299
00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,760
So I thought long and hard about
how I was going to take care of

300
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,560
this problem, right?
I know where she's at, and I

301
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:35,320
have this idea.
And my wife one year as kind of

302
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,800
a gag gift for Father's Day, got
me these flannel pajama bottoms

303
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,720
that had SpongeBob on them.
And then I took one of my wife's

304
00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,360
tightest fitting shirts I can
now I'm a individual of, I'm

305
00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:49,960
robust.
We'll just put it like that.

306
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:56,680
I, I've, I've developed a bit of
table muscle And so I put on the

307
00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,120
tightest form fitting shirt that
I can find.

308
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:07,200
I have these like bear paws
slippers I put on and I go to

309
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,880
the mall and I'm like, I'll just
get her right.

310
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,840
So I go walk into the mall and I
find my daughter and she's

311
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,080
shopping and she's she's facing
away from me and I start walking

312
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,840
up and her friends are facing me
and their eyes get about that

313
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,360
big.
I mean, they're, they're the

314
00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:28,480
size of silver dollars.
And she's just picking out close

315
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,360
talking to her friends.
And I just said, what dog you

316
00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:34,880
left without me?
I can hang.

317
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,880
I'm cool, yo.
And she turned around and she

318
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,760
looked me up and down, and she
immediately just started hauling

319
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,400
for the door, right?
And I'm like, wait, where you

320
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,440
going?
I'm not done.

321
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,640
There's stuff I want to look at.
We'll go to the food court.

322
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,800
I got no problems.
And she's like, dad, how can you

323
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,920
do this?
I'm like, look, I've been

324
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,320
married for the better part of
20 years at this point.

325
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,560
I'm trying to impress nobody.
Now from that point on, public

326
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,680
embarrassment, I have found, is
by far, especially when the

327
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,760
friends are involved.
By far the most effective way of

328
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,880
discipline to your teenagers.
Because she never did it again.

329
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,640
That's great.
Yeah.

330
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,800
Yeah.
But no, the kids, the older ones

331
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,600
will come around once they see
it take off.

332
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,960
OK.
So I'm a hero.

333
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,560
That's awesome.
No, I don't think.

334
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,680
I don't think she thought I was
her hero in that moment.

335
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,280
And even my wife was like, where
are you going?

336
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,240
I'm like to get got her.
She's like, you're not going

337
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,960
like that.
And I'm like, I think I look

338
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,240
good.
And then just walked out the

339
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,120
door and went and got her.
But yeah, no, it was good.

340
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,160
The other part, if you talked in
there a little bit, I can't

341
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,680
remember who it was, but said
something about we're we're

342
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,480
looking forward to showing you
or answering some of the

343
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,160
questions you have.
What kind of questions do you

344
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,400
think are going to come your
way?

345
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,920
All of them.
Yeah, we get, we get a lot, a

346
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,320
lot of people just want to know
how in the world a polygamous

347
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,440
family works.
And, and when you live it, it's

348
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,000
just you take it for granted.
It's just normal life.

349
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,400
But when you look at it from the
outsider's perspective, they're

350
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,000
just like, how do you do this?
They ask us a lot about

351
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,160
jealousy.
That's a really common question

352
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,680
for the women and.
Today, Dave, I had a phone call

353
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,600
from my nephew who runs a
company, and he started out the

354
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,800
conversation with, hey, uncle,
Uncle Jeff.

355
00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,000
I got a question for you, Mike.
All right, what is it?

356
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,280
He said it's like having 30
employees, kind of like having

357
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,040
four wives.
I said.

358
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,600
Not even close, dude.
Not even close.

359
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,920
And it went on for there.
He didn't realize he was open up

360
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,400
like a 10 minute sermons from
now.

361
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,440
And so he started it.
And I told all my siblings when

362
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,800
I first became a polygamist, I'm
not going to mess with your kids

363
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:06,280
minds until they're adults.
And if they ask, we're going

364
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,520
there.
So he's in his mid 30s now and

365
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,320
he asked.
So we went there and he

366
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,280
listened.
I just said no, nothing like it

367
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,480
because at least my 30 employees
still listen to me when I talk,

368
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,160
right?
I mean.

369
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,040
They wait.
We had spatterings of all that.

370
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,600
Right.
And it would be a lot different

371
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,280
if you had to sleep with your
employees.

372
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,200
That would change the dynamics
of everything, you know.

373
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,840
How do you propose some kind of
a of a contest to see who gets

374
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,120
to win the prize this month?
No, it ain't happening.

375
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,480
Yeah.
No, but at least you can fire

376
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,080
employees.
That's.

377
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,480
True.
Whenever I hear someone saying

378
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,600
wow, that must just your your
society, it must just be really

379
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,080
male dominated, huh?
I'm like, that's cute.

380
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,360
Say it again, because it's not
that way.

381
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,160
I that's one of the things
that's that's that we get a lot

382
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,760
right.
I shouldn't even say just me,

383
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,400
but but Tanya and Amber, I know
it's funny, even though they do

384
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,200
their best to stay out of the
way, inevitably because of who I

385
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,160
am, they get drugged in the
middle of it.

386
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,400
Like they they did a podcast
once together.

387
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,480
And you're right, though, I mean
that that is the thing and and

388
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:32,000
look, it's always a thing about
the people that are most

389
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,680
interested in is how, how does
it work between the wives,

390
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,960
right?
The husbands, you know, it's

391
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,640
like we're just not interesting,
right?

392
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,320
Which I get, but it, it's really
about how do the sisters make it

393
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,400
work?
And that's, that's the the part

394
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,080
that everyone, everyone does.
I and I think even amongst

395
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,960
polygamist families, people who
are familiar with it, like it

396
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,480
can be tricky and we all kind of
need help.

397
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,640
Like when you get in a stuck
spot, it's nice to say, OK, how

398
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,600
did you guys figure this out?
So it's not just for Peeping

399
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,360
Toms, you know, like it's for
everybody to share the things

400
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,840
that work and how do we make it
work?

401
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:20,240
And I think it can be beneficial
no matter where the person's

402
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,480
coming from, so.
You know, it's interesting.

403
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,320
It's interesting, Dave, even if
you were I were to say to give

404
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,400
our two cents in the situation
like that, when the questions

405
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,080
are generally coming from the
female population, they're not

406
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,280
going to believe us anyway.
No.

407
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,680
It's because it's a, it's a man
trying to defend.

408
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,440
Masculine.
Yes, you.

409
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,920
Know what I mean?
It's it's a man trying to

410
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,200
explain.
Yeah, you know, or defend would

411
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,680
be a better, better term.
This thing that everybody

412
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,280
perceives that you control or
you're doing for ulterior

413
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,800
motives.
So they expect because they

414
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,120
don't know you personally, so
they expect that you're going to

415
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:08,720
lie to them.
You know, there's a, another

416
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,240
video out there on the Internet
right now that we we did a we,

417
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:17,080
we did a documentary for a
company out of out of the UK

418
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:20,720
and, and we've we've done a
reaction video that's also on

419
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,680
our on our YouTube channel that
folks can go look at.

420
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,600
And that was kind of where the
interviewer, she was really

421
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,920
great.
But, you know, she just she was

422
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,920
having a hard time wrapping her
mind around that.

423
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,200
You know, Jeff says this and
that and the other.

424
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,000
She enjoyed all of her
conversations with the ladies.

425
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,960
But in the end, it was, I could
be here for a long time and I

426
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,240
don't know that I would ever
really know if Jeff is doing

427
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,920
this because he's this is a
religious conviction or he just

428
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,200
wants his cake and eat it too,
you know, and, and so, so it

429
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,640
really is important that the
ladies and, and they're the ones

430
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,280
who have answered questions from
the beginning, you know, on

431
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,240
Facebook and they've done live
chats and, and that's part of

432
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,760
this.
We've also got a little tea in

433
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,840
chat.
They're going to do a weekly tea

434
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,240
in chat where they answer
questions.

435
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,720
And I think it's going to be
wildly successful because so

436
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,440
many ladies around the world
want to know from them, you

437
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,480
know, their side of the story.
Absolutely.

438
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,680
You know it.
It's the other interesting thing

439
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,000
that happened today is and I
actually gave this this guy, or

440
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,560
I will give this guy the the
link to the Facebook or the

441
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:39,640
YouTube channel.
He's a Christian pastor who

442
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,640
reached out to me just out of
the blue just hours before we're

443
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,440
recording this here.
We were on the phone for

444
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,800
probably the better part of an
hour and a half and he had

445
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,160
called me up and he said, hey, I
bumped into your podcast and I'm

446
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,800
like, OK.
And he's like, I'm a Christian

447
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,760
pastor.
And I'm like, oh, yeah.

448
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,400
He's like, yeah.
And so I was like, OK, get the

449
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,560
scriptures out because it's,
it's all hell fire and damnation

450
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,680
for this point for me, right?
And I was getting ready to

451
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,360
defend myself.
And he's like, I've done some

452
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,320
research and I think plural
marriage, plural marriage is a

453
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,560
true principle.
And I'm like, you are correct.

454
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,880
And he's like, I don't want to
become a Mormon, but can you

455
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,760
give me some insights on how to
live this?

456
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,960
And I'm like, part of me wanted
to be like, no, but just record

457
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,480
it for me because that first
year, you're going to love it

458
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,640
and it's going to be good
entertainment.

459
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,640
But he he, you know, we spent an
hour and a half talking about,

460
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,880
right.
And a lot of the questions he

461
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,880
was asking, I just kept saying
the same thing over and over,

462
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,280
which was you're going to have
to kind of find your own groove

463
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,400
in this, right?
Like, I have visited a lot of

464
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,560
fundamentalist households, and I
know it's hard for people to

465
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,080
wrap their mind around, but
every household is different,

466
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,360
whether they're monogamous or
polygamous, right?

467
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,600
And they're all going to have
different, different ways of

468
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,040
doing things.
And it's not better or worse

469
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,640
necessarily, it's just
different.

470
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,400
And that's hard for people to
wrap their minds around.

471
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,280
Yeah, no, it, it, it's just like
people, everyone has a different

472
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,560
personality and every family is
going to look different.

473
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,560
And it's interesting because
growing up in Mormon culture and

474
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,080
around fundamentalist Mormons,
like that's the only version of

475
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,200
polygamy I ever saw.
But it's been interesting kind

476
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,160
of stepping more out into the
world and see that it's

477
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,200
everywhere.
So many different kinds of

478
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,400
people live it.
And we've been get, we've been

479
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,960
fortunate to get to hear some
people's stories.

480
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,200
And, and it's it, it is a true
principle.

481
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,680
And I think anybody who chooses
to live it to the best of their

482
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,160
abilities going to experience
the blessings of that.

483
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:03,080
And so I'm happy that we get a
chance to talk about it and the

484
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,640
beauties of it because it is and
share it with people who are

485
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,240
like, you know what, I think
you're right.

486
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,840
I think there's something here
and there is.

487
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,840
And that's why it's part of my
belief structure.

488
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,160
Like it's, it's why God calls me
to do it because it is.

489
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,680
How do I say it?
It brings beauty, it brings

490
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,200
blessings.
It's, it's just, it's a really

491
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,480
beautiful principle.
I don't know.

492
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,800
It really the natural
consequences of polygamy.

493
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,040
If everybody treats each other
kindly, it's it's beautiful.

494
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,240
And there's so many benefits
that get completely overlooked

495
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,280
when people are talking about
polygamy and looking at it and

496
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,440
this idea that there's nothing
in it for the women.

497
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,680
I'm like, no, I'm sorry.
It is for women.

498
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,600
And the women are the people who
truly benefit in this

499
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,840
relationship.
You know, I, I was reading

500
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,840
somebody's thoughts on this the
other day, actually someone in

501
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,640
our comments section.
And I was really grateful for

502
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,280
what they said.
They were, they were defending

503
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,840
Jeff and this idea that, you
know, oh, he's only in it for

504
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,320
the women.
I'm sorry, marriage is hard.

505
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,800
It's hard for a man to keep one
woman happy.

506
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,480
Jeff has to keep two women
happy.

507
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,680
That's hard.
He's not in this for the women

508
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,880
and people.
They overlook the fact that this

509
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,200
is very difficult for men and it
can really be a it's full of

510
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,200
beautiful benefits for women,
so.

511
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,520
I hope it's OK, but I want to go
down this road a little bit

512
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,800
because I did have a listener
reach out to me wanting

513
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,840
perspectives of women here.
So if you're OK with this and

514
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,680
Jeff, with your permission, of
course, I would like to to go

515
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,120
down this road if you're good
with that.

516
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,160
OK, All right.
Well, I do.

517
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,280
No, Jeff.
Jeff can intervene.

518
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,640
It's OK.
We're.

519
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,360
Going to do a fishing video,
yeah.

520
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,570
Well, yeah, well, yeah, Dave,
Dave and Jeff go to bass pro

521
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,640
Why would you guys choose this?
I love that question because

522
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,720
it's, it's been interesting,
Sharice and I've been talking

523
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:34,840
lately and we have come to see
that so many of the people who

524
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,160
live this way, even in our
culture, many of them have asked

525
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,240
us why would anybody do this if
it wasn't a requirement.

526
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,960
And I, I'm just kind of shocked.
I'm like, you don't see the

527
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,680
value in this.
Besides, God has commanded me,

528
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,040
therefore I shall.
It's like there's so much in it

529
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,800
for us.
For one, I will say what it does

530
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:03,280
is it opens the door for women
to choose mates of the highest

531
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,920
quality.
It does not limit us to those

532
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,760
who are available for the, you
know, the picked over selection

533
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,400
of men who are maybe rejects for
a reason.

534
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,160
It allows you to pick somebody
who you would like to be the

535
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,560
father of your children and you
know, perhaps another woman has

536
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,200
chosen him and you can see the
qualities and that's why he's

537
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,640
desirable.
And so it it really is for mate

538
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,640
selection on the on behalf of
women, it's optimal.

539
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,480
Yeah.
I mean, how many times have you

540
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,960
heard a woman say, well, you
know, all the good guys are

541
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,520
taken?
Well, if you're willing to live

542
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,560
polygamy, that doesn't matter.
The good guys are.

543
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,120
And you can see that they're
good guys because they've proven

544
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,400
themselves.
There's no guesswork involved.

545
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,480
So that's a huge benefit.
Women by nature, just more

546
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,400
social creatures.
We, we need our feminine

547
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,440
companionship and piligamous
women can have someone just

548
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,480
built into their day to share
their moments with and have

549
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,760
discussions with.
And you know, I have, I have a

550
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,040
friend that I go out with once a
month and we just go out, we get

551
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,560
a coffee or something.
We just hang out.

552
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040
And I love my friend, but I
can't imagine if that was my

553
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,400
only adult female interaction.
That's all I had time for.

554
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,960
That would be so depressing, you
know?

555
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,080
And so that's another benefit
that polygamous women have.

556
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,560
Yeah.
And there's also this element of

557
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,880
the the stabilizing factor
people talk about, oh, it's bad

558
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,400
for kids, it's bad for families.
And I'm like, OK, there was a

559
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,160
point in my life where I got
really sick and I was basically

560
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,680
bedridden for a couple of
months.

561
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,360
And I was able to kind of look
at my kids and realize I can't

562
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,400
be there for them in the way
that I normally am.

563
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,720
But they're still home, still
being cared for by their family,

564
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,000
by another mother figure who
they're familiar with,

565
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,160
comfortable with.
My husband can still go to work.

566
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,320
He doesn't have to stay home and
take care of me.

567
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,920
Cherise was helping me do my
laundry and watch the kids and

568
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,280
do the dishes.
And she didn't have to step away

569
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,679
from her family to do that
service.

570
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,960
It was built in.
And so, you know, when one of us

571
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,760
has something that comes up that
would normally just throw a

572
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,400
family for a loo, like we were
able to keep going because it's

573
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,840
like we've got each other's
back.

574
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:28,320
And the kids never had to go get
babysat at grandma's because

575
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,239
dad's got to work and mom can't
watch them.

576
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,040
And so, you know, they're, it's
so stabilizing for the kids to

577
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,520
have that built into their home.
So there's lots, there's lots.

578
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:46,080
And it saddens me that when
people can't see the goodness in

579
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,719
it so.
Yeah.

580
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,600
You know, as a, as a
homeschooling mom, Vanessa, it

581
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,199
has talents and skills that I
just don't have.

582
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,000
But now my children have access
to someone who can teach them

583
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,800
these things that I, I don't
have.

584
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,440
I don't have to know everything.
I don't have to be good at

585
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,520
everything.
And my kids have access to so

586
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,360
much more than just what I could
provide them on my own.

587
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,240
Yeah.
Absolutely.

588
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,400
You know, I going to illustrate
a story here.

589
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,000
I'm going to throw myself under
the bus.

590
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:27,320
When we had our second
grandchild, she was our daughter

591
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,040
was living in a different state
about halfway across the

592
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,080
country.
And at this time, we weren't

593
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,800
living plural marriage.
And Amber's like, I'm going to

594
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,440
go ahead and I'm going to head
over there.

595
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,560
But it was right in the middle
of COVID, right?

596
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:47,160
And so we're like, OK, just it's
early, but get down there

597
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,640
because if you get sick, you
know, it's not going to matter.

598
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,760
So just get there, right and,
and just be there.

599
00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:03,240
So, so Amber, Amber went and she
left me the two youngest at home

600
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,480
and then my middle daughter who
was at that time just starting

601
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,600
college.
And you know, I didn't think

602
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,400
anything of it, but all I've
been eating is steak and eggs,

603
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,240
right?
So she, my daughter opened up

604
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,800
the refrigerator and actually
took a picture and sent it to

605
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,160
her mother, right?
And I didn't, you know, and it

606
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,240
looked, it looked better than
what it did on the picture, in

607
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:33,360
my opinion.
But in the picture you could

608
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:38,720
only see like 0 calorie
Gatorade, steak, eggs and some

609
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:41,120
like leftover take out Chinese
food, right?

610
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,400
And my wife calls me and she's
like, you savage, you need to

611
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,400
stop.
You need to get real food.

612
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,960
I'm like, steak and eggs is real
food.

613
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,360
I don't know what the problem
is.

614
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,760
And but again, because look, I
don't know how to cook, right.

615
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,040
I mean, I can grill, I can smoke
meat, but I mean, honestly, if I

616
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,360
have to like boil a pot of
water, that bad boy's getting

617
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,240
burnt.
I don't know what else to tell

618
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:05,720
everybody.
It's just the way it is.

619
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,960
And so this last time, same
daughter had a baby and this,

620
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,040
this time I'm living, living the
principal and Amber and I were

621
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,960
talking about it and she's like,
can I just say it's going to be

622
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,200
so nice for me to be able to go
and know that Tanya's there to

623
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,160
look after you because you're
just not capable.

624
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,520
Honey.
You're, you're going to do

625
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120
things that are detrimental.
And it, it was, I'm not going to

626
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,360
lie, I had to call, I had to
call maids in to clean the house

627
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,000
because there was like gun oil
all over the table and protein

628
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:41,000
powder and everything else.
But no, it does right there.

629
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,200
There is a stabilizing factor
even with the kids, right?

630
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,920
I remember we had to go the same
daughter that threw me under the

631
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,880
bus.
We had to go pick her up from

632
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,280
school one day and I went and
picked her up and I was like

633
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,320
literally 5 minutes late with
all right, if 5 minutes and I

634
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,720
went, I picked her up and I
said, hey, sorry, I'm late.

635
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:03,680
I didn't mean to.
And this was right after Tanya

636
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,240
came into the family.
She just looked at me.

637
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:07,600
She's like, Tanya wouldn't have
been late, right?

638
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,200
I'm like, that's rough, but
there.

639
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:13,960
But but there that is the truth
of it, right?

640
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,720
And it's so hard to explain to
somebody.

641
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:20,600
It's it's almost something you
you have to experience, right?

642
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Like I've often thought, you
know, gosh, I wish you could

643
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,840
just see my house or somebody
else's house, how it functions

644
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,560
for a little while.
This might answer some

645
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,080
questions.
Do you find yourself missing

646
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,200
having conversations with people
who believe as you do, Maybe

647
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,440
because you live in an area
where there's not a whole lot of

648
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,920
orthodox Mormons running around,
or maybe you're an active member

649
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,080
of the LDS church, or maybe even
a never Mormon, but you're

650
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,040
really curious about what the
faith teaches?

651
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,960
Well, I have something here for
you today that you might like.

652
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:53,400
Now, every Thursday night at
7:00 PM Central, Taylor Smith

653
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,680
teaches a class on gospel
fundamentals from a very

654
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,520
orthodox point of view.
He will cover everything from

655
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,120
the nature of God, some of the
deeper doctrines of the faith.

656
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Now to join the class, all you
got to do is click the link in

657
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,120
this episode, show notes and on
Thursdays at 7:00 PM Central and

658
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,000
join the class.
It's an easy place where you can

659
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,880
be as open or private as you
want.

660
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,760
It's all up to you.
Again, all you got to do is on

661
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,760
Thursday night, hit that link in
this episode, show notes and you

662
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,360
can log on to the Gospel
fundamentals class taught by

663
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,760
Taylor Smith.
Thanks.

664
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,840
And I hope to see you there.
I.

665
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,640
Have a story for you, Dave?
Go ahead.

666
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,280
OK, I'll go really fast.
I was, I was, I went to this

667
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,440
little group meeting at the park
full of homeschooling moms one

668
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,320
time.
And while the kids played, all

669
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,760
the moms sat in a circle and
they were, they were bouncing

670
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,600
ideas off each other.
And the main one that seemed to

671
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,800
be predominant was how do you
balance cooking, laundry and

672
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,080
homeschooling?
You know, how do you do it with

673
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,640
older kids, with younger kids?
And they were all shooting off

674
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,000
these ideas.
And well, here's what I did.

675
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,160
This worked for a while.
And it got to me.

676
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,560
And I was just sitting there.
I was like, have any of you

677
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,640
tried having a sister, wife?
You know it.

678
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,520
Can.
Make things easier if if there's

679
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,600
two of you, I'm just saying so.
Was there like, 'cause I'm a fan

680
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,760
of awkward silence?
Was it like, was it like

681
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,160
awkwardly silent for a good
couple seconds?

682
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,120
You know, all the ladies there
knew who we were and it was just

683
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,240
kind of like, OK, pick up on the
next lady, you know, And I was

684
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:30,200
like her, she has no information
that can actually help us

685
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,280
because I was not in the same
situation as they were.

686
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:39,960
So she's like moving on, so.
2025 years ago, I was still very

687
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,000
active in the church, but, you
know, considering exploring and

688
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,520
reading about church history.
And a good friend of mine was a

689
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,600
lady who was teaching gospel
doctrine in the church.

690
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,120
And she and I used to have deep,
you know, deep conversations.

691
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,440
And so that was not a big deal.
And she came to me after church

692
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,480
once and she taught a lesson
and, and she was saying, Oh, I

693
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,320
had, I, I found this, this
really interesting story that we

694
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,240
talked about today and I'm just,
I want to share it with you.

695
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:12,120
So I said, OK.
And she said, well, you know, I

696
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,160
was reading a study that there
were two groups.

697
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:20,720
They, they were professional
psychologists who study people,

698
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,760
you know, and, and what they
realized was in the middle of

699
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,960
their, their, their different
groups.

700
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,760
And they would have a break that
the people who were having a

701
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,920
break from being studied would
go and all the women would

702
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,200
gather together and the men
would go out and be alone.

703
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,760
And they thought, why don't we
study that next time?

704
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:45,480
So they did a study on the, the
needs of women in there to, to

705
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,640
have other female companionship
and, and the need that, that,

706
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,880
that is real.
And after she was done talking

707
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,000
about all the things that they
came up with and I can't

708
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,000
remember them all, she said, I
just, I just realized how

709
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,520
amazing it is that God created
the relief Society.

710
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:13,160
And I, I said, or maybe
polygamy, of course, I, we were

711
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400
in the church at this time, you
know, And she looked at me and

712
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,800
she just went, you ruin
everything and kind of and

713
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,680
walked away.
But she knew exactly what I was

714
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,160
talking about.
You know, Relief Society

715
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,280
basically is wonderful.
Yeah, that's good.

716
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,120
But it's nothing compared to the
fullness.

717
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,440
You know of?
Having a family.

718
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,280
Right.
Absolutely.

719
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,320
I'm just saying that and it was
a funny I.

720
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,480
Bet you it was.
Exactly what I was talking

721
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,920
about.
Once it hit her and she just

722
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,080
kind of had to walk away because
there was nothing else to say.

723
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,120
No, there's nothing.
You can't say anything at that

724
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,560
point, right?
It's all it's all done.

725
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,600
I you mentioned the kids and,
and, and stabilizing the home.

726
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,840
It doesn't take long for the
kids to feel that right now, if

727
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,560
it's their kids raised in the
principal and there's nothing to

728
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,200
contrast, they're not going to
pick up on it quite as much

729
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,480
until they're, they have
families of their own.

730
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:16,280
But even even my middle boy
who's living at home right now,

731
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,840
I had to go Christmas shopping.
And it's like, you want to go,

732
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,680
I'll buy you a burger.
He's like, yeah, I'll go with

733
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,480
you.
Right.

734
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,120
So we hop in the in the truck
and we we head into town and we

735
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,920
do Christmas shopping.
And I was looking at some

736
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,880
jewelry.
And there was another gentleman

737
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,760
there who was looking at jewelry
as well.

738
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,040
And I was like, what do you
think about this one for your

739
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,080
mom, son?
And he's like, well, Dad, if you

740
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:41,400
if you spend that much on one,
you're gonna have to spend that

741
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,640
much on Tanya too.
And I was like, no, you're

742
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,240
right.
And this guy looks up at me and

743
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,960
he locks eyes and he starts
smiling and laughing like it's a

744
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,320
joke.
And Jacob just looks up at me

745
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,200
and goes, what it was, it was
pretty funny.

746
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,440
Just totally, you know, again,
awkward.

747
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,360
And I find that extremely
humorous.

748
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,720
So.
But it was awesome to see him

749
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,960
kind of like, I probably won't
ever do it, but it works for

750
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:12,600
him, So back off.
So I'd be remiss if I didn't ask

751
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,440
this question.
If you don't want to go there,

752
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,920
that's OK because I don't want
to stir anything up.

753
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,000
But I asked about the blessings.
What are some of the challenges

754
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,720
you face as a woman living this
way?

755
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,000
Well, there's the jealousy
issue.

756
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,800
That's real.
I have never met a single person

757
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,160
who's not actually has elements
of jealousy when they say I'm

758
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,600
not a jealous person.
And then they get married and

759
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,240
every single time without fail,
they have their struggles.

760
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:41,720
They just didn't realize that
they would experience them that

761
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,000
like they do.
And that's a real thing.

762
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,760
So there is you.
The thing about this lifestyle

763
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,280
is that it brings to the surface
the things that need to be

764
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,160
addressed.
And so it is a perfecting

765
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,640
principle.
That's why we do it.

766
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,280
So yeah, it's you've got other
people looking at you and

767
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,800
pointing out your flaws.
That's uncomfortable.

768
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,320
But if you work on them, then
you overcome them.

769
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,320
There is the logistical elements
of how do if you're sharing a

770
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,480
house, who cleans, who's
response?

771
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,400
What if one person's cleaner
than the other?

772
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,600
What, what whose, whose
standards do you have to live up

773
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,680
to?
Who does the cooking?

774
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,920
What if you have different in
ideas about diet?

775
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,520
What about disciplining each
other's children or not?

776
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,720
There's challenges that come
with that.

777
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:42,240
I mean, they're numerous, but
it's worth working through.

778
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:49,280
Yeah, I think, I think it can be
easy for some women to fall into

779
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,840
this trap of, of the sister wife
is, is competition, you know,

780
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,440
competition for their husband's
love, for their husband's time.

781
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:03,920
And if, if you have personal
insecurities where your your

782
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,360
relationship with your husband
is concerned, then it can be a

783
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,400
real struggle because every
other woman is a threat.

784
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,360
And so, but then it comes right
back around to what Vanessa was

785
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,480
saying.
If you're, if you're able to

786
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,120
address what the real issues are
and commit to becoming the best

787
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,360
possible version of yourself,
then all of the struggles and

788
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,800
challenges there, there's a way
through them.

789
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,240
You can overcome them.
Interesting.

790
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:34,320
So I guess the biggest challenge
is crap.

791
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,920
We have to be better people, you
know, that's.

792
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,160
That's right, Jeff, how about
you?

793
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,440
Right.
We, we talk, we, we talked about

794
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,720
the challenges that, that the
sisters face here.

795
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:46,680
What about you as a man?
What what challenges do you face

796
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,120
in living this way?
You can talk freely, it's OK.

797
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:04,080
Well, just like, share and
subscribe to our channel, fall

798
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,400
out right there.
This is what we do every day,

799
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,560
every day.
Oh.

800
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,680
My gosh.
Oh, sorry.

801
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Kind of.
Yeah, you know, part of part of

802
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,480
my discussion about the 30
employees and, and they're not

803
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,400
your wives and different things,
you know, kind of went, went to

804
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:31,600
the the reality that when you
become when when you enter into

805
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,640
a plural marriage where you're
where you're, it changes the way

806
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:41,560
you it should change the way you
behave in a positive manner.

807
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,360
It's it's the man's version of
what the ladies were just

808
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,000
explaining.
You know, you now have to make

809
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,960
all of your decisions and how
you respond, how you live, how

810
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:58,160
you act, where you stand, what
you say, what you don't.

811
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,360
It has to be calculated from
what's the right thing to do.

812
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,840
You know, as as monogamist, a
lot of a lot of compromise and

813
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,120
give and take to make, you know,
a male female relationship work.

814
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,200
But in plural marriage it it
changes the dynamics a little

815
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,240
bit.
And as a man, you could better

816
00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:24,440
be working on how you know what
to do this the right thing, even

817
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,880
if it makes everybody mad.
Yeah, yeah.

818
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,120
No, you know.
It'll play you, you'll you know

819
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:37,520
it'll ruin you so.
You know, I, I, yeah, I from my

820
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,000
aspect, there are things about
myself.

821
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,520
And look, I think we're all this
way.

822
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,560
I think it's part of the human
condition, right?

823
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,360
Sometimes we don't see our own
crap, right?

824
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,760
I, I hate to put it that way,
but it's just the truth, right?

825
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,040
And so when Amber and Tanya come
to me and they're like, look,

826
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,320
you got this issue and there's
two people telling me this, I'm

827
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,600
like, well, hold on a second.
Oh, man, they might be right,

828
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,160
right.
And that forces you to kind of

829
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:08,360
to kind of look at things.
And to your point, Jeff, I think

830
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,960
that's 100% correct.
There is no room for just knee

831
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,680
jerk reactions now, right?
I mean, every and that's a good

832
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,400
thing, right?
If part of this is to prepare us

833
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:23,240
for godhood, we would, we would
detest a God who had knee jerk

834
00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:28,120
reactions like that, right?
Because it would be wrath all

835
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,000
the time, because we deserve it.
I deserve it, right?

836
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,640
And so it, it, it really, it
forces office as, as men to be

837
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,640
like, there's no knee jerk
reactions, right?

838
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,920
We're going to have them anyway.
But it, in some ways it's made

839
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,600
me think about what I say a lot
more before I say it, right, at

840
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,840
least inside my family, because
you got to, that's the only way

841
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,760
that that this works.
And I think it does that in all

842
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,920
parties involved.
And I and I think that it does

843
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:03,120
make people better for it.
You know, I, I think that

844
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,080
there's, you know, especially
being in the fundamentalist

845
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:13,400
world, you know, the LDS Mormon
fundamentalism, it's, it's very

846
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,680
openly discussed that this is a
principle that will make you

847
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,440
better if you, if you live it
and if you try, you know, so, so

848
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:29,520
you enter in with a theological
understanding that this, this is

849
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,680
going to be tough, that there's
blessings involved and it will

850
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,520
show you your faults.
Whereas I think there's a lot of

851
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,280
folks out there in the world
that, you know, the ladies

852
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,480
answer questions all the time
about do you do this for

853
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,760
religious reasons?
You know, what's and, and how is

854
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,760
it different?
You know, how's Mormon polygamy

855
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,800
different than any other type of
polygamy?

856
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,480
And, and I think that the focus,
the focus on, on the religious

857
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,960
side of, of things has its pros
and its cons because it's a

858
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,120
principle that will, that a
human can figure out, you know,

859
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,040
people around the world figure
things out through their

860
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,200
experience, which is the whole
purpose for this earth life,

861
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,000
right, You know.
You.

862
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,440
Know all of God's children down
here figuring things out through

863
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,600
experience and if they work hard
enough at it and if the hearts

864
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,120
are true, I think Charisse
mentioned this earlier, they're

865
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,040
going to come across these very
same things that we're talking

866
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,760
about that that have been taught
for generations by, by the

867
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,800
founding members of Mormonism to
help us along the way.

868
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,880
We would kind of go into it with
a little bit of a, you know, a

869
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,200
code book or a lot of a code
book that will help us.

870
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,400
And it's it's it's an open book
test.

871
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,880
You know, I hate to be bumbling
my way through just like your

872
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,080
friend who called you today and
said, Hey, how do I do this

873
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,920
right?
He's recognizing some things and

874
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,560
he's going to he's going to
experience the same kind of

875
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,280
things.
And if he makes it through,

876
00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:01,600
it'll be because the principal
taught him truth of how to

877
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,240
behave as a husband if he wants
to maintain a family.

878
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:11,400
And then that's a process.
Absolutely, absolutely.

879
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,840
But despite the challenges, the
blessings are just so

880
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,560
overwhelmingly in favor, right.
I mean I.

881
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,640
Would agree.
And look, everybody says, well,

882
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,280
that would be hard.
Look, monogamy is hard, right?

883
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,480
I mean, and, and you know, I, I
get that people say, well, what

884
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,520
about the, you know, these
scenes of abuse I have witnessed

885
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,200
down in down in southern Utah
and Northern Arizona.

886
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,280
And I'm like, look, there are
crappy plural families and there

887
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,040
are crappy monogamous families.
And that's just all there is to

888
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,880
it, right?
People, people are people no

889
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,560
matter what their situation is.
And look, there was, you know,

890
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,680
Brigham did put down a pretty
stern warning to the fellas,

891
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,760
right?
It's a damn Mormon than it'll

892
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,480
save.
And, and I don't want to

893
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,440
discourage anybody, but
certainly go in understanding

894
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,600
that, yeah, that it's going to
take some work, but the payoff

895
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,000
is beautiful.
Yeah, I agree.

896
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,920
Yeah, yeah.
So as as you go forward with the

897
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:17,280
channel here, you you talked
about like a they're going to

898
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,160
get an in depth view of your
family, right?

899
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:25,760
So what what does that look like
is that you know, showing you do

900
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,520
homeschooling and you taking
care of the house and Jeff you

901
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,240
are outside doing hand stands on
wood like that other one.

902
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:34,800
I mean, is that what we're
rolling for?

903
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,160
That was to subtly attract more
women, you know.

904
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:43,040
Oh, that's that's what that is.
We'll have to see if it works.

905
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,760
Yeah.
As you throw it out there, see

906
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:46,960
what it works.
Right.

907
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:53,480
Yeah.
No, yeah, I I do think that

908
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,760
that's going to be a large
element of it is showing the

909
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,320
the, the functioning of our
family.

910
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,960
Yeah, I think we, we also have
a, a great, you know, part of

911
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,600
part of our whole drive for
years for me for the last, you

912
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,560
know, 30 years of my life has
been to try to figure out how to

913
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,680
live more self-sufficient and
how to, you know, how to raise

914
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,360
their own food and all those
kinds of things.

915
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:21,480
I've been, you know, successful,
not successful that, you know,

916
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,720
as I work my way through that.
So we're going to show a lot of

917
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:27,400
that.
We're here on, you know, 20

918
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,120
acres 1st and we have a lot of
our food that we're working

919
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,560
with.
And I have a lot of projects

920
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,680
that we're going to do.
And, and I think there's a lot

921
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,200
of people in the world, you and
I've talked about this on past

922
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:42,600
podcasts, Dave, you know, the
need to be more in control of

923
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:48,920
life as, as individuals, as
groups, as communities, and

924
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,320
especially where our food's
concerned.

925
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,360
And, and so we're going to show
a lot of that and some of it

926
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,200
will be our, our learning curve
and, you know, our mistakes and

927
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,560
what works and what doesn't
work.

928
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,000
And so I'm sure that a lot of
the stuff this we're, we're

929
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,920
getting ready to put a video out
about just a how to video on a

930
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,400
little tree that I carved for
Chloe, you know, and it'll be

931
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,320
fun and maybe a few people will
enjoy it.

932
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,600
You know, maybe a lot will enjoy
it.

933
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,400
I don't know.
This lifestyle calls to a lot of

934
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:24,120
people and there's out there in
the world who want the courage

935
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,680
and want to see what other
people have done.

936
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,720
And then I, I think they'll pull
the trigger because our world's

937
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:33,880
in a, you know, place of hurt
and living in the city is a big,

938
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:35,960
you know, a hard thing to get
out of.

939
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,200
But there, there are some
beautiful things to, to living

940
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,560
rurally that are calling to
people.

941
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,560
And so we want to show that as
much as we do the lifestyle of

942
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,040
our family and our children and
the benefits of both of those

943
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,000
things put together to me, to
me.

944
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,560
It's it's you know what, what
you could call the old paths.

945
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,360
It's it's the path that that the
Lord has pretty much encouraged

946
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,120
very heavily from the very
beginning is, you know, don't

947
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,680
gather together in a city where
you where you don't have the

948
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,880
ability to make your own food.
You know, that puts you as a

949
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,760
slave.
Yeah.

950
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,320
Now you're.
Sliding upon the government or.

951
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:13,280
Others.
And you can't.

952
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,600
You don't have the freedom to
follow.

953
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,480
God, to even choose your path if
you don't have, you know, the,

954
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,960
the ability to take care of your
own temporal needs, you're a

955
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,480
slave to this world.
And so, so there's that.

956
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,560
And so we want to show a lot of
those kind of things.

957
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,200
We want to be able to show the
fun stuff that we do with the

958
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,520
kids, you know, some adventure
videos and things like that.

959
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,680
And the ladies are doing all
sorts of it'll be a well-rounded

960
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,960
experience and people can come
and watch whatever they want,

961
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,080
not watch what they don't want,
you know?

962
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,960
Some people like watching it and
they get so mad and they can't

963
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,800
stop watching it.
Yeah.

964
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,240
Yeah.
Yeah.

965
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,800
Hate watching is a thing.
I I, so I have several people

966
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,680
who do that.
Yes, yes.

967
00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:02,400
And and they let me know yeah,
no, hate watching is a thing for

968
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,280
sure.
You know, you, you brought up

969
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,120
the part about being out of the
cities and stuff.

970
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,480
And this just doesn't tie into
homesteading.

971
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,360
I think it ties into our way of
life in general.

972
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:20,720
I think COVID showed the
weakness of of this idea of

973
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,600
living in in like massive
cities, right?

974
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,160
I remember, gosh, it's been a
while since I've thought about

975
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,920
this.
I remember when the pandemic

976
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,640
first started.
Right now, again, me and my

977
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,040
boys, because we're meatheads,
the first thing we did is we

978
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,360
found every like pandemic movie
and then we just watched them

979
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,680
one after another.
And and it was one of those

980
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,080
things like the first one to tap
was the biggest wuss of the

981
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,480
house, right?
So I mean, we're going through

982
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,400
them all.
But it was the night before the

983
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,400
actual lockdown was supposed to
take in take effect.

984
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,520
And I looked at my oldest boy
who came home to live with us

985
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,520
because his job just shut down.
And I had a downstairs apartment

986
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,280
that was finished.
And I was like, no, no, no,

987
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,000
don't, don't quit school.
Just come, come live with us,

988
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,440
right?
And so him and his wife and his

989
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,960
daughter came to live with us.
And one night we're up and it's

990
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:22,800
about it's about 11:30 at night
and I just got this weird

991
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,480
prompting go to the grocery
store.

992
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,640
I'm like, I'll need to go to the
grocery store.

993
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:27,960
I got everything I need right
here.

994
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,080
You know what this is the whole
reason we've been preparing for

995
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,800
for so long.
I got a hole downstairs full of

996
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,400
food.
You know, fine on toilet paper,

997
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,480
right?
I don't know what everyone

998
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,720
else's problem is.
Not that I had anything to do

999
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,760
with that.
That was all Amber.

1000
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,200
But anyway, so it was kind of a
weird thing, right?

1001
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,280
And I thought, OK, let's go
look.

1002
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,800
And so me and my boy, we took a
trip and we just ran down to the

1003
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,200
grocery store.
He's like, do we need to get

1004
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,480
something?
And I'm like, no.

1005
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,240
And he's like, well, what are we
doing here?

1006
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,440
I'm like, I don't know, let's
just go in and take a look.

1007
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,320
And the panic that I saw was
heartbreaking right?

1008
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,720
Now keep in mind, I'm living in
Utah County, right?

1009
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,560
Like, panic should be the last
place that Utah should be the

1010
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,920
last place you expect to see
panic, right?

1011
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:23,280
But that wasn't the case.
The the shelves were just bare,

1012
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,880
and as they would wheel out a
pallet of food, people would

1013
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,920
just go nuts and just charge
that thing, right?

1014
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:37,400
And the line stretched.
You guys are familiar with the

1015
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,840
store Winco, right?
Were you still OK?

1016
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,680
Big stores, right?
Warehouse kind of stores.

1017
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,680
The lines wrapped all the way
back along the bakery, all the

1018
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,880
way back to the dairy section of
people just trying to check out

1019
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,920
11:30 at night.
And it was heartbreaking, right?

1020
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,240
It was one of those things where
the fear was palpable.

1021
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:03,200
But I remember thinking in that
moment, this is unsustainable.

1022
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,440
Right.
It's just unsustainable.

1023
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,720
It's worked OK to this point
because we haven't had one of

1024
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,760
these Black Swan events, right?
We haven't had a pandemic, we

1025
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,040
haven't had a major homeland
attack anything like that.

1026
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,280
But when that supply chain goes
down, those those cities are

1027
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:29,880
absolutely unsustainable.
And I, I remember, I remember

1028
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:35,120
thinking, yeah, no, this is this
is what I, I was supposed to

1029
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,400
see.
Is this right here.

1030
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,200
And there are so many people now
that are actually looking at

1031
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,120
getting out of the city for the
first time in a long time is a

1032
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,000
viable option, right?
And, and I think, I think

1033
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,640
showing that part of your guys's
life is going to be huge to a

1034
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,640
lot of people.
And, and look, I think for so

1035
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,040
long our society's just been
built on fake things, right?

1036
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,720
Social media is fake.
It's curated, right?

1037
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,600
The, the Facebook's, the
Twitter, that sort of thing.

1038
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,200
And people have a nose for
authenticity, right?

1039
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,120
If you're authentic, that stuff
always resonates.

1040
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,920
So I think, I think given that
you guys are so authentic and so

1041
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,320
open, I think it's going to do
wonders for people being able to

1042
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:27,200
see this, this put into practice
both the lifestyle as well as

1043
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,800
living, living out of the
cities.

1044
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,920
Yeah, Yep.
That's.

1045
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,480
It's a good thing.
And if we can even give hope,

1046
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:43,080
you know, to to people about
family life and living out of

1047
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,520
the city, we've accomplished
what we set out to do.

1048
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,040
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.

1049
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,240
Well, I think that's the other,
the other great thing about the

1050
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,560
channel is certainly the
lifestyle between, you know, as

1051
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,680
as fundamentalist Mormons is
going to be a huge part in that.

1052
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,320
Even those who don't want to
engage in in the principle, I

1053
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,240
think we'll be able to take
something away.

1054
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,560
And at least looking at that and
getting some ideas and like,

1055
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,280
well, Jeff did it this way, I
think I could do it that way and

1056
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,200
and get it done.
So it'll it'll be good stuff.

1057
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,760
Real interesting.
We had, we had a lot of people,

1058
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,480
you know, when we, we did did
the show before, a lot of people

1059
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,000
we worked with after at the end
of the season would reach out,

1060
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,680
you know, before they left the
crew.

1061
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,440
And just, we had one young, one
young man who had a couple kids

1062
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,760
who just thanked us and said,
you know, I've watching your

1063
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:44,200
family has changed my life And
I, I've vowed to be a better

1064
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,960
father, you know.
That's awesome.

1065
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,680
Yeah.
And so we've had really, really

1066
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,640
neat experiences.
One of the other one of the

1067
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,840
other gentlemen, you probably I
think it it was Alejandro was

1068
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,240
talking to you.
Was it was it you?

1069
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,160
Anyway, he you know, he
basically said that he didn't

1070
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,400
even almost didn't want to take
the job because it was a, excuse

1071
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,440
me, a polygamist family, you
know.

1072
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,880
But afterwards, he, you know,
basically, he didn't say it

1073
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,920
changed his life in that way,
but he tearfully thanked us

1074
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,800
because it changed the way he
felt and thought.

1075
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,800
And, you know, the kids were all
hanging around and wanting him

1076
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,880
to teach him how to use the
cameras and all that kind of

1077
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,840
stuff.
And so it impacted them once

1078
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,560
they could be in our home for a
season.

1079
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,320
And, and so we found that the
same kind of thing exists with

1080
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:43,760
people who watch on TV and they
find a family or an experience

1081
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,760
that, like you said, that's
real.

1082
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,000
It changes the way they think
because now they don't just

1083
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,080
think of what they have seen
that's negative.

1084
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,520
They have something to contrast
it that, oh, there are people

1085
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,760
who live this way that I think
are good.

1086
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,720
And so it's it's, it's an
interesting thing.

1087
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:07,440
Absolutely.
For all the scariness that being

1088
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:12,200
in the public eye entails, those
are the kind of moments that

1089
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,880
make me realize this is worth
it.

1090
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:20,880
Because if we can share insight
and truth and God's love with

1091
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,280
any one of these people, it's
worthwhile.

1092
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,880
And we, and that's only the
people that we know about.

1093
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,120
And there's, there's numerous
stories that we have even

1094
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,600
mentioned.
And that's not even including

1095
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,840
the ones that we don't know, the
ones that don't give us

1096
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,720
feedback.
And so, you know, if we get the

1097
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:41,320
opportunity to share this, then
it feels like a calling.

1098
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,600
You know, not everybody's in the
position to do what we're doing.

1099
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,000
And and that's fine, but we are.
And so, you know, we're happy to

1100
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:55,000
step forward and do what we can.
And if it can make, if it can

1101
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:59,200
help people either through
encouraging them to take a step

1102
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,200
on their own to improve
themselves or give them an idea

1103
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,360
of how they can become more
dependent on God and less on the

1104
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,760
government or whatever, then,
then we'll all be uplifted

1105
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,000
through that process.
The more of us who can do that.

1106
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,240
And it, it spreads throughout
the community and throughout the

1107
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,960
world.
So, you know, we all do our part

1108
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,480
to share the gospel basically in
this way or that, and it's

1109
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:30,360
always worthwhile.
Yeah, You know, I what what you

1110
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,720
said there is, is hugely
important, right?

1111
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:38,400
It's easy to demonize another
group of people if you don't

1112
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,240
ever spend time talking to them,
right.

1113
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,440
And, and I remember one thing
that happened to us, it was when

1114
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,200
we came out here to Missouri for
a visit, right?

1115
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:54,600
Scouted out, so to speak, and we
decided we were going to take a

1116
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,120
trip up through Nauvoo, right?
We're like, well, I'm there.

1117
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,400
I might as well go over there.
And so we did.

1118
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:09,440
And so it was me, Amber and
Tanya, and the girls were like,

1119
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:10,920
OK, what is it you really want
to see?

1120
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,680
I was like, I want to see the
gun shop, and I want to see John

1121
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,480
Taylor's home.
But John Taylor's phone home has

1122
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,280
to be first because I mean that
that's a place where like, they

1123
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,120
planned the exodus, right?
The 12 would meet there.

1124
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,880
They would plan the exodus, They
would go over plans.

1125
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,680
So I was like, I want to see
that.

1126
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:33,080
And so I go in and I sit down
and it's not a very busy day at

1127
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,600
all there.
It's like right smack dab in the

1128
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:40,040
middle of the week.
It was, it was warm, definitely.

1129
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,800
But yeah, it just wasn't very
busy.

1130
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,560
And so I'm just kind of taking
it all in, right?

1131
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:49,320
I'm sitting in John Taylor's
home and all of a sudden this

1132
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:54,280
older missionary couple comes in
and they got this other couple

1133
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,920
with them who's not Mormon at
all, right?

1134
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,320
And the lady's like, this is
John Taylor's home.

1135
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,760
And, and she kind of, you know,
just reads a few things and the

1136
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,520
guy goes, who is John Taylor,
you know, and, and the lady, she

1137
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,480
tries to answer a little bit and
she looks at me and she's like,

1138
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,800
do you have something you'd like
to add to that?

1139
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,200
And I'm like, sure.
And I just basically tell all

1140
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:22,120
the stuff I know and about 3/4
of the way given my spiel, I'm

1141
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,720
like, I think I messed up.
I think I, I overshared and I

1142
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,920
shouldn't have, right?
I think I should have let this

1143
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,840
lady do her calling.
And so after they left, I just

1144
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,080
kind of said, hey, you know
what?

1145
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,760
I'm sorry if I stepped on that.
I did not mean to.

1146
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,560
And she's like, no, no, no, I'm
glad you did.

1147
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,480
And she's like you, you've read
a little bit, haven't you?

1148
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,200
And I was like, yes, yes, ma'am,
I have.

1149
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,800
And, and Tanya and Amber had
started walking up the road and

1150
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,400
she's like, which one of those
women are your wife?

1151
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:54,160
And I was just like, yes, and
she sat there and the wheels

1152
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,280
turned from it and then you
could almost see the light bulb

1153
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,200
go, go off.
And she's like, oh, you're a

1154
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,640
fundamentalist.
And I'm like, here's the part

1155
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,720
where I get kicked out, right?
That was my first thought.

1156
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,880
But she sat there and she, we
had probably, her and her

1157
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:11,320
husband and myself had probably
1/2 hour conversation just

1158
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,880
outside the John Taylor home.
And I remember she, she said,

1159
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,160
you know what she said you could
never kill anyone.

1160
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,080
My name and that and definitely
don't tell them my name with

1161
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,240
what I'm going to tell you.
She said, but I just want you to

1162
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,600
know I have no problem sitting
next to you guys in the temple,

1163
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:31,600
right?
I mean, and so often this thing

1164
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,439
where we other people, right?
We, we, we make them the other.

1165
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,439
That can only happen in the
vacuum where there's not

1166
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,040
conversation happening, right?
I think when you sit down and

1167
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:49,319
you have to look another person
in the eye and say, tell me

1168
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:52,640
about yourself, something
happens there and and you start

1169
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,439
to view them as a person may be
different from you in a lot of

1170
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:00,279
ways, but a person nonetheless.
And and I think that does a lot

1171
01:09:00,279 --> 01:09:01,840
of of good.
What's that?

1172
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,120
Yeah.
I was gonna say that's that's

1173
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,920
that's just humility.
Yeah.

1174
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:08,960
It's to the point where we
realized that somebody else that

1175
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,720
we don't know everything,
somebody else might know

1176
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,920
something that we don't know.
And so we sit down, we have a

1177
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,720
conversation, we open ourselves
up to this reality that we we

1178
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,520
don't know everything, that
maybe we could learn something.

1179
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,920
And that's, that's just
humility.

1180
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,560
And there's a reason why, you
know, God requires it.

1181
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,560
And so we don't get stuck in
this, you know, all the other

1182
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,800
people, there's me and then all
the other people.

1183
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:37,000
So, you know, I think, I think
conversation's good.

1184
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,600
Yep, absolutely.
Well, and, and look, it won't

1185
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,640
you guys are even going to do
something where you're going to

1186
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,200
have an episode like every week.
Is that what you said, where

1187
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,319
people can jump on and ask
questions?

1188
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:53,200
Yeah, Cherise and I weekly we
just have a, a chat whether

1189
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,880
we're answering questions that
people have posed to us or

1190
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,160
thoughts that we've been
thinking about.

1191
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,440
So yeah, we, we welcome the
questions because it's, it's fun

1192
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:07,200
to discuss the things and to
share insights and to give

1193
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,280
perspective.
Yeah.

1194
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,280
I don't think I don't think
they're planning right away to

1195
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,520
do live streams.
Not quite.

1196
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,800
Yet they they will do some but
that's just a a big undertaking

1197
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,880
with.
Yeah, yeah.

1198
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,040
Gotcha.
So how long do you see these

1199
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,520
episodes lasting?
I mean how how time frame wise?

1200
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,040
They're all different.
It depends on on what we're

1201
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:32,720
doing.
Sometimes they're short.

1202
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,800
Some of our conversations are
longer, they range anywhere from

1203
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,800
a couple minutes to half hour.
Yeah, yeah.

1204
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,240
The one that's on the channel
right now was what, 27 minutes?

1205
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,280
Something like that.
And then this morning you guys

1206
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,720
filmed a new one.
That's what 15/12/15?

1207
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,240
Yeah, right in there.
So there's it's just a range.

1208
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,160
Yeah, just kind of depends on
what we're talking about.

1209
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,320
Gotcha.
And how about a release

1210
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:57,600
schedule?
Are you guys going to do it

1211
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,000
weekly, monthly.
Have you thought about that at

1212
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,360
all?
Yeah, our schedule so far is

1213
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,160
we're we're releasing a couple
videos per week.

1214
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,920
OK.
So yeah, different styles.

1215
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,800
So Cherise and I do T and chat
once a week and then we release

1216
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,080
a couple of other different
videos and so.

1217
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,360
Assuming we're not having
technical problems.

1218
01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:20,080
Which we are currently having.
Yeah.

1219
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,080
It happens.
You'll you'll, you'll get the

1220
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:26,120
hang of it.
Trust me.

1221
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,560
I I struggled with it and and
you guys will figure it out.

1222
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:37,000
I have no doubts about that as
as you've started this now and

1223
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:43,360
this is something you're you're
you're engaged in as you've

1224
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,280
started the process, what's one
thing that that what's one

1225
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,080
challenge that you didn't
foresee happen?

1226
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,280
I think, you know, we knew it
was going to take time, but you

1227
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,120
know, as we've tried to learn
all the programs.

1228
01:11:58,440 --> 01:12:01,400
And.
Setups and all these different

1229
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,240
things.
It's taking a a lot longer than

1230
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,880
I think we imagined it would,
but I know that that's just

1231
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,560
something we have to experience
in the beginning as we figure

1232
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,120
things out and then that will
quickly we'll figure out, you

1233
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,600
know schedule and how to
streamline things.

1234
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,760
But at the moment, that's.
Yeah, technological.

1235
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,440
Yeah, the time it takes, the
time it takes is like, OK, then

1236
01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:22,000
here we go.
So.

1237
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,800
Gotcha.
When now that you guys have

1238
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,760
started this, you're you're
underway, what's your hopes for?

1239
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,720
What do you hope this does this
channel Who?

1240
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,920
Wants to take that one.
You just asked the same question

1241
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,560
in a different manner.
That's no fair thing.

1242
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,600
Sorry, it's almost like an old
podcasters trick.

1243
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,280
I know, And then you'll throw
out the bad and keep the good

1244
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,280
one.
Let's see, you know, I, I think

1245
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:00,560
our hope is to be able to to be
able to answer some questions,

1246
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:07,160
to share the beauties of this
lifestyle, plural families,

1247
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,160
everybody knows who we are.
I mean, you know, most of them

1248
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:18,680
and and to be able to share the
beauty of a rural living that

1249
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:25,280
that's kind of the hope is.
And honestly, to be able to be a

1250
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,520
voice that sets the record
straight as far as

1251
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:35,880
misunderstandings and, oh,
stereotypes, yeah, 'cause

1252
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,000
there's a lot that's
misunderstood.

1253
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:43,480
So have the conversations.
If we share, then those things

1254
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,360
start to go away, and that's
great.

1255
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,280
I would love for that to be the
case.

1256
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,720
Yeah.
Absolutely.

1257
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:51,720
Yeah.
I mean, most people think that

1258
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,440
polygamy is just kind of like
for an old guy and a couple of

1259
01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:55,480
young girls.
I mean no.

1260
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:00,560
Idea where they get that?
Idea.

1261
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:01,600
I hear ya.
I hear ya.

1262
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:03,880
Yeah, you know what I'm talking.
About I hear ya.

1263
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,800
No, you know, it's always a bit
disconcerting to me.

1264
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,960
Tanya's 10 years younger than I
am, and it's always a bit

1265
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,880
concerning to me when she starts
talking about shows she used to

1266
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:16,680
watch as a kid.
And I realized that my oldest

1267
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:22,160
kids also watch that same show.
And I'm like, oh, I'm old.

1268
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,240
It's it's happened somewhere.
Somehow it has happened.

1269
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,600
It's keeping me spry.
It's good, it works.

1270
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,760
It works for your good.
Yeah, Yep.

1271
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,880
All awesome.
I'm looking forward to it.

1272
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,560
Is there anything you guys want
to talk about?

1273
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,320
We haven't covered anything
about the channel or anything

1274
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,240
else.
No, I think, I think we've

1275
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,680
covered most of it.
Yeah, I think so.

1276
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,600
Yeah, I think so.
Jeff, any parting words of

1277
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,240
wisdom or wit or anything like
that?

1278
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,240
I'm all witted out.
You're all witted out.

1279
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,520
Catch you in the morning, is
what you're saying.

1280
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,040
Awesome.
All right.

1281
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,800
Well, guys, this is going to be
good fishing.

1282
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:07,880
Trip We do have to plan that
fishing trip, but.

1283
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,760
We do, we do, we do.
We're we're going to have to

1284
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,560
plan that fishing trip for sure
it's overdue.

1285
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,800
I need to go fishing so well
guys, it's awesome.

1286
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,160
I think you guys are going to do
great.

1287
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,520
I can't wait for it.
It's out everybody check out the

1288
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,760
link I'll post that in the in
the show notes.

1289
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,120
Everybody check that out for
sure.

1290
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,800
You guys, the Aldridge's, it's
always good to talk to you.

1291
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:36,120
All right, you bet.
Stick around for just 5 minutes.

1292
01:15:36,520 --> 01:16:09,160
Bye, everybody.
You're listening to the Mormon

1293
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:10,280
Renegade podcast.