Episode #43: Getting Prepared W/Marcello Surjopolos

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So I feel like I've had guests
on, they've done a great job in

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breaking down, just how fragile
our economy really is and just

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how bad it could get.
Now I hate being the guy out

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there who says, hey I think
there's something wrong and then

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not give you the solutions and
steps for you to get through it.

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I've searched high and low for
someone.

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I feel like as well grounded and
knows what they're talking about

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when it comes to preparing for
an emergency.

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Well finally by asking around
and doing a little bit of

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networking, I found that guy his
Name is Marcelo sujatha.

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Louis Marcelo is the business
owner of food storage Depot,

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which is one of the largest
emergency supply stores in the

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country.
This guy lives and breathes this

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topic.
On this episode, we get a little

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bit of background information on
who Marcelo is and how we got

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into emergency preparedness.
We then talked about some of the

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challenges you could face in the
near future that may Force us

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into those kinds of emergency
situations.

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We then move into the realm of
solutions Marcelo.

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Then gives a quick explanation
of the Principles of being

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prepared to just not survive but
to thrive in an emergency

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situation.
Finally at the end he gives you

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the listener an opportunity to
become better prepared.

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Now, I normally don't advertise
on this podcast because I would

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never want you, buying something
I told you to and not having it

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be great.
I break that rule on this

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episode, I have looked into
Marcello's business and I've

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talked to him many times off the
air and can fully endorse the

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goods and services.
He provides all you need to do

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is click on the link in the
description of this episode to

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sign up for a five-day seminar
with Marcelo, where he goes into

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a deep dive into, how you can be
better prepared to get through

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any emergency.
That's next on this episode of

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Let me just tell everybody out
there.

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I've been super Jack for this.
This This conversation, we're to

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talk to Marcelo sir jobless.
And this is a guy who has

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experienced some of the things
I've talked about on this

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podcast before, I've had Kelsey
Williams on and we've talked

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about how just how fragile the
economy really is, but I don't

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want to leave you the listener
with no Solutions, it's one

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thing to point out a problem.
It's another thing to give maybe

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some solutions.
So my hope is that in our

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Conversation here with Marcelo
today, we can actually come up

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with some solutions and some
ways that you can look down the

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road and have a level of
confidence going forward.

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No matter what the economy does
or the world does.

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So Marcelo dude, I'm super
jacked for you to be here.

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Thanks for being here, man.
Now, super excited to be here to

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thank you.
So tell me a little bit about

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you, you're a member of the LDS
church, but before you

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mentioned, you were a convert
and you grew, where'd you grow

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up at California.
California.

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Now you also lived in Brazil,
right?

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I didn't so my mom's Brazilian,
my dad's Greek.

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I was born in America, so I'm
agree.

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Silicon, Greek silicon.
I like that.

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But, you know, I think I think
there's, you know, forms now

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with all sorts of different
genders.

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I think there should be
something there with, you know,

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Greek zillion on it.
Yeah, oh yeah.

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So Brazilians, they do exist and
I'm one of them and and I'm

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proud to be so.
But yeah, totally, I grew up on

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I grew up in Southern California
with the, you know, the whole

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culture of the Brazilian, the
Brazilian culture in my family

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means.
So we're at around the streets

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without shoes on and had really
tough feet and climbed every

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tree you can find and just
little hyper boys, and it was

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pretty fun, you know?
It was great.

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But yeah, I loved it.
So, when did you move to Brazil?

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So I went there on my mission,
okay?

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And and I'm a convert to the
church, so it was kind of

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interesting.
Actually, I'll go ahead or Was

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that yeah, let's stop there.
How did you convert to the LDS

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church, right?
Because I'm a convert to the LDS

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church and then later a
fundamentalist.

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But yeah I'm always like it
would be a really hard sell,

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right?
Like because when I joined it

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was like three hours of church,
right?

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I remember thinking if your God
can't get it done in an hour and

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a half like everybody else's, I
don't know what you want me to

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say.
What what Drew you to the LDS

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church?
What?

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What happened.
It's a I'll try to convince This

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the story of a little bit but
the we grew up.

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Well, I didn't know this until I
went on a mission, but

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supposedly my mom had joined the
church earlier in Brazil, and

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then I was, I was blessed in the
church as a baby, and then we

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left the church.
Okay.

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So I grew up Greek.
Orthodox.

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I grew up metaphysical.
You know, we would go and, do

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you know, meditation at church
or metaphysical church?

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We did Baptist born again, you
know, whole bunch stuff.

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It just got to learn a lot.
Wonderful religions and got to

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see people from all different
walks of life.

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And what's interesting is people
say are my church is true and

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your church is false and all
that stuff.

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Well, there might be some truth
to a church true and false

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church.
But that doesn't mean every

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person is good or bad in either
church, right?

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And I got I get to see that.
I got to see that the beautiful

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miss of other religions.
Know what I'm saying, where you

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have some of the most faithful
loving kind people ever and I I

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still like to go to other
churches because it just reminds

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me of the, you know, there were
all the same.

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I don't know if you remember, I
don't know if you've ever read

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heuerman, addresses books about
Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, all

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that stuff, I'm getting the
best, remember where he talked

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about Zion and he talked about
how Brigham's Brigham talked

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about how the the world will
come to the gates of Zion.

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Do you remember that idea?
Yeah, the the want to be part of

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the Society of Zion for social
and economic programs.

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And they'll say, hey can we be
part of your society?

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And the answer is sure but you
have to commit to something.

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What is it?
You have to bow your knee and

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confess.
That Jesus is the Christ.

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Well even if we don't believe in
him.

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Yeah, we'll do it.
But also we need to do, you know

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do we have to be baptized in
your church or something like

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that.
He goes.

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No, you have to promise that.
If you're part of our society,

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you can't prosecute your
neighbor because of their

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beliefs, they say, we can be.
We can worship the white dog.

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We could be a practicing Jew, or
Greek, Orthodox, or anything we

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want.
Yeah, as long as you don't, You

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know, persecute your neighbor
because their beliefs.

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Anyways, growing up outside of
the church, it really has given

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me an appreciation for that.
For what I just talked about

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that.
If we all come together and just

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love each other and understand
that their strengths all over

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the world, you know, you and I
were talking about the Muslim

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experience I had in Istanbul
where I was able to go into, you

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know, the Blue Mosque at call a
called prayer time as a

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Christian here.
I'm not supposed to get out

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there and get on the lines and
go down and kneel with them and

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stand up with Neil with them
while the while the Imam is at

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the front doing all his chance.
But but I did, and in the, the

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16 year old boy is next to me
all these kids next to me, they

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knew I wasn't Muslim, they asked
me ahead of time and I they knew

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I was Christian but I'll tell
you something, they were so

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excited to talk to me afterwards
and they just loved me.

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And I said, man, I wish the
world can see, you know, you

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know, outside of people who have
their blinders on and on Are in

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grow up in a place where they're
ignorant, but, but we're

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Istanbul is just filled with so
many people all over the world

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that come in to, you know, to,
you know, do business.

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These, the these Muslim boys
have interacted with all types

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of religions all types of
countries all types of

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languages, and they were so open
and loving to me, but people

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don't see that.
Anyways, go to back to my story

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and I apologize.
I was a little bit about, no,

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no, I think you bring up a good
point.

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I think that's something that
that's worthwhile to bring up

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because even Fin Brigham said,
you know, we're in Mormonism, is

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is the religion of truth, right?
So wherever we find truth,

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wherever we find love in some
respects, that's Mormonism.

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Right?
I mean, that's, that's what we

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are.
Yeah, and that's what I loved

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about Joseph Smith.
I loved how I loved, how he was

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so open to, like, I remember,
let me back up a little bit.

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I remember an experience where I
was And taken by a family member

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to go speak.
I'm going to a pastor because I

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didn't understand I was talking
to one of my family members and

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I just didn't understand why I
was being persecuted so much for

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my beliefs, right?
And I said, look, I don't

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persecute you, why are you
persecuting me, right?

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And and so I asked a couple
questions I said, you know, let

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me ask you.
So what you're saying is is

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because first of all, you know,
I believe in Jesus Christ, And

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and this person said, well, you
can't be saved.

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And I'm going.
Why is that?

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I say, I absolutely need him.
I absolutely need him.

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You know, I cannot be saved
without him.

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He's my savior.
I confess that he is my savior.

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And I said, according to your
religion, I'm saved.

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Because my confession, I am
saved.

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Let me be saved in mind.
I just leave me alone, please,

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you still.
Will you even the same?

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You don't believe in same.
Jesus, I believe in, and I said,

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well, I believe in Jesus lived
in Jerusalem, about 2,000 years

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ago, who died on the cross the
cross.

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For me, right?
I believe in Jesus, who loves me

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tremendously and loves you as
well, and he says, nope, no,

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your Jesus is totally different
than mine.

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And I said, that's not true, you
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talking about.
So I hope I'm not demeaning him,

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but at the time, another family
member of mine said, well, I

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well before that let me back up
so I ended up saying well let me

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ask you a couple questions
because I really don't

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understand where you're coming.
From you keep telling me that

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because of my belief in Jesus
Christ I'm going to be thrown

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into hell and Because I'm going
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My body is going to be Torn to
Pieces over and over and put

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back together and I'm going to
be in Eternal Flames being burn

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burn burn for eternity, right?
He goes.

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Absolutely.
I said even though I just

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confess that Jesus Is My Savior,
I'm still going to go through

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that whole experience, right?
He goes absolutely I said but

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then an aborigine in the middle
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You know 500 years ago who never
even had a chance to listen to

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eat any missionaries who never
even heard the name of Jesus

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Christ ever.
Never even had the chance to

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need even know there was a Jesus
Christ runs in front of a raging

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animal, that's coming after his
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And because he did that he died
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He goes to hell and he gets to
be burned and he gets to be torn

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apart for all eternity as well
because he never got a chance to

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confess Jesus Christ and he said
absolutely.

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I said, wow.
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And then I said on the flipside,
because somebody confesses Jesus

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Christ in the right religion,
right?

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Quote, right.
They can they can come in and

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then they can rape.
They can pillage, they can do

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all this stuff for the rest of
their lives and be the most evil

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person and they get saved, but
the aborigine doesn't goes.

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Yep.
That's what it is.

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Now, I'm not cutting down the
religion because I also

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understand that there's
different sets of on board again

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and, and non-denominational that
they that they believe know.

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If you're going to commit
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yourself to being good.
Right?

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In others?
Say no, as soon as you commit

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yourself to Christ, you're
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So there's all different types.
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obviously there's tons of
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right?
It just keeps.

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You got to respect different
sites in this belief.

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It didn't make any sense to me.
It's right name.

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It just did not, it didn't
click.

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And so I said, I don't, I'm
sorry, I don't get your

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religion.
I don't it doesn't make any eye,

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that's not the Jesus.
I know you're right.

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You know.
Yeah, we don't work with the

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worship the same Jesus that I
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And so so I said, if you can
help me understand that would be

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awesome.
And so, what happened is, I

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ended up he said, well, let me
get you in touch with one of my

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pastors, and I'll let you talk
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I said, I would love that
because I really don't

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understand where you're coming
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I would love to understand you.
So that at least I can have

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compassion for you and your
beliefs.

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And so, so what happened is they
set up a meeting with one of

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their passengers and I ended up
going with another relative of

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mine who's was black, right?
And and we ended up going to

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talk to this pasture and when I
walked into the office, Office.

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I think it was Santa Ana
California.

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Orange, California.
So, my camera, where was I walk

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in.
And there's a lady, greeting me

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the pastor and I look down on
her desk and guess what?

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It says it says, was IT director
for the ex-mormons for Jesus?

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I like, oh no.
I'm in trouble.

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And so, I'm going on, man, what
did I get put into this?

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I just wanted to ask some
questions.

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Well, I'm sitting there going,
oh, well, let's Go with it.

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Let's see what happens.
So they take me into this back

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room.
It looks like a living room.

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They actually made it look like
a living room and it has a like

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shelves on the side with tons
and tons of tons of books from

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the LDS church, okay?
And and, and they go into this

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living room setting.
They sit me down, and here's her

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her husband and all these people
from her congregation, right?

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And their surrounding me and I'm
sitting there going, okay, this

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is interesting.
I said, Thank you for taking

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time.
Time to talk to me.

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Would you mind if I would you
mind telling me about your

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religion?
So I can understand I really,

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really want to know where you're
coming from.

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And so, they sat there and they
just started telling me about my

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religion, his sort of talking
about.

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Yeah, they started to call me
everything that's wrong with my

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religion and everything like
that.

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I said, wow, you know,
something, I'm sorry.

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Can I just stop you?
I'm not bashing your religion.

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I came here to learn about your
religion.

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Would you mind tell me about
your religion on mine and they

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said, well, the only way we can
tell you about our In is to

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compare it to some other
religion.

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I said awesome.
Pick the Catholics picture juice

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pick somebody else but except
for my religion and they said

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fine and then they rent went
right back to batching our

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religion, you know, the things
we believe and I say they're

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going.
Wow, this is really interesting.

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So I'm listening to them and I
just thought that I said, can I

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just stop you guys, stop.
I mean, seriously, stop

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attacking me.
I'm not here to fight you.

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I want to learn from you.
Not fight you.

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I mean, you have an opportunity
to teach me your beliefs and

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your totally bashing me.
I said, let me ask you

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something.
I And to the lady.

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I said, what, what type of sins
did you commit to make you so

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bitter and angry against the
church that you have to spend

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your whole life and energy
fighting it instead of promoting

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Jesus Christ.
And she goes, she goes well as

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never a member of the church.
She had never been baptized, but

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she bragged about how she had
taken all the discussions.

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And while I'm talking to her,
I'm sitting there going, you

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know, you expect me to believe
you as an ex-mormon for Jesus.

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When you're lying to me, I mean,
you're lying.

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You were never baptized in the
church.

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How do you expect To believe
anything you say.

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And so, I turned her husband.
I said, let me ask you a

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question.
I said, when were you baptized,

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and when did you leave the
church?

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And then she, he said, well, I
was never baptized either.

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And so I turned all the
congregation.

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I said, have any of you ever
been baptized in the church?

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None of them.
Not one single person in there.

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Okay, had ever been baptized in
the church.

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And I sat there and I said, can
you are bashing me and expecting

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me to believe you when all of
you are lying to me.

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Yeah.
Expect me to believe you.

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And then they, they Would start
going off and going off, and

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going off.
And they said, okay, tell you

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what, why don't you give us one
Revelation to the church has

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received one easy, even any
rubble a revelation since since

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Joseph Smith, I said awesome, if
I show you one Revelation since

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Joseph, Smith will all of you
stop bashing me and we'll all of

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you shut up and all of you go to
work.

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And we'll, you all did get
baptized in the church.

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And will you stop fighting me
and fighting everybody else and

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they all showed up, right?
Because they're, yeah, it's not

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going to happen.
But the interesting thing about

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it is I was in this situation in
the reason why I bring this up

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is because they got to a point
where I was still kind of new in

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the church.
I've been back from my mission

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just barely I didn't know a ton
of stuff about, you know, Joseph

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Smith, I actually when I was in
the MTC.

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So back up, I'll tell my story
in just a little bit.

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When I was in the MTC, I didn't
believe in Joseph Smith.

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Okay, I did not believe, I
didn't believe in the Book of

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Mormon, I went on a mission
because the girl said, hey, I

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will marry you unless you go on
a mission.

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So stand there, going.
Oh man.

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Well, how do I get on a mission?
No, something I didn't believe

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in Joseph Smith before I didn't,
and I got it, but I had an

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experience in the in Missionary
Training Center, When I Was

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preparing for a mission, it
taught me.

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He's absolutely a profit.
Absolutely, you know, it wasn't

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me.
Wanting it, it wasn't me asking

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for it.
It was heavenly father telling

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me it even the prophet of our
church could say, hey, it's all

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a joke.
You know, Joseph Smith isn't a

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profit Book of Mormon is not
true and I'd have to sit there

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and say sorry my my testimony
didn't come from you on profit.

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It came from Christ from God,
you know, from Other.

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So it's really interesting but
but the point is I don't know

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what my point was but oh we're
going to talking about Joseph

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Smith Brigham Young Zion and how
yeah we all come together right?

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Yep yep that it instead of
seeing the differences in

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everything else.
Anyways you asked me a question

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about my conversion.
So I grew up outside the church

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and when I was about 11 years
old, the missionaries came and

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knocked on our door, okay?
My mom had been a member before

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and she She she ended up on, she
ended up letting him in and we

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thought they were awesome.
They were fun.

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You know, I remember Elder Jones
was one of the names have been

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and he could put his his foot
behind his neck and I thought

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that was really cool.
Wow, it's awesome.

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We call them Elder to snake
Jones and and I do remember them

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teaching me a single lesson, but
I remember the feeling I felt

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around them.
Does that make sense?

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Yep.
Absolutely, yep.

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They asked my brother and I and
you understand the spirit so you

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I'm talking about what I thought
was really cool before we even

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started this podcast, as you
said, can we say a prayer and it

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was a beautiful prayer.
And I love that.

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Thank you for saying that.
I mean, thanks for even offering

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to but but you know what, the
spirit feels like and you want

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to be led by the spirit and
that's so cool.

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That's what I felt.
I felt the spirit for the first

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time probably in my life and I
didn't know what it was as a

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little kid, right?
But but they asked my brother

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and I would you like to be
baptized and I said, absolutely,

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yeah, I don't know what this is,
but I want to be baptized.

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So I got baptized and I remember
feeling something really The

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powerful.
After I got baptized this

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Spirit, really was strong and I
didn't walk around as a little.

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Do you know-know ten-year-old 11
year old kid?

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I was 10 years old at the time
and almost 11:00 because I

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remember I was about a month
month and a half before my

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birthday and I walking around
and not wanting to step on

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little ants, no one in to hurt
anything because I do something

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totally different that they're
never felt before.

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It felt the strength in me now,
either that went away or I got

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used to it, I'm not sure.
But, but what happened is fast

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forward, my family started going
to church.

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But Again, we grew up Greek
Orthodox.

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You know, Catholic, all that
stuff, whatever we grew up, you

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go to church, you go home.
You really don't pray much, you

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know you don't really talk about
the church.

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Much when you go home, you don't
really read scriptures, you

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know, and in the Greek Orthodox
Church, you just go to church

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because that's what you do.
And you know, if you can make it

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every Sunday, you go at least on
the Eastern Christmas, right?

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Right.
So, so that's what we did.

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And after a while our whole
family left, the church,

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including me, Well, fast
forward.

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Again, I'm was in 19 years old,
19 years old, and I'm DJing, I'm

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a DJ.
So I own my own business since I

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was 15 right?
And and and I'm DJing a gig on

446
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:18,200
Catalina Island and there's do
two blond girls in front of me

447
00:22:18,208 --> 00:22:21,000
that are super cute, you know,
and they're all dancing and

448
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,800
smiling at me and I'm like, wow,
you know, DJ boy and I'm the

449
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,500
Highlight, you know, and
everything else and And I ended

450
00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:30,000
up thinking.
Wow, they're really cute but

451
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,500
then I picked one of them in
man, I couldn't have picked a

452
00:22:32,508 --> 00:22:35,700
better one for me because she
was more spiritual than me.

453
00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:41,100
And she was just amazing.
And, and I fell completely Head

454
00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:44,700
Over Heels over her because I
never had anybody that spiritual

455
00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:48,500
in my life.
And and so she and I started

456
00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:50,300
dating and I just wanted to be
more like her.

457
00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:52,000
I wanted to be, I mean it's just
amazing.

458
00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:55,100
You know how somebody can lift
you up just because a little

459
00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:59,400
closer to Jesus, right?
And So she ended up saying,

460
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,300
well, I won't marry someone.
Let's say, you want a mission

461
00:23:01,700 --> 00:23:03,500
and I'm like, going well, how do
I go on a mission?

462
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:05,800
She goes, well, you got to go to
church and I'm like, oh man.

463
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,700
Well, how do I do that?
And she goes, come to my church.

464
00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:11,300
So 30 minutes away, we started
going to church, and then, and

465
00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:14,300
then fast forward.
I ended up doing everything I

466
00:23:14,308 --> 00:23:18,000
needed to get my papers in.
And the funny thing is, I put my

467
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,800
papers in and, and after I get
them in the, my friends, all

468
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,000
start asking me.
Where do you think you're going

469
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,400
to go on your mission?
And the first thing that popped

470
00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:29,500
My mind was Rio De Janeiro,
Brazil.

471
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,700
And I didn't even know where
real was, you know, reality on a

472
00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:34,000
map.
I knew it was in Brazil, but I

473
00:23:34,008 --> 00:23:36,600
didn't know where it was.
And my family is my family from

474
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,100
daughter is on T.
So it's totally different,

475
00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:40,900
right?
And so so I don't know why I

476
00:23:40,900 --> 00:23:43,500
said rio, but I said real.
Well, everyone says that's the

477
00:23:43,508 --> 00:23:46,200
last place you'll go and I kept
telling people for weeks, I'm

478
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,200
going to Rio got going real.
Got my mission call and it my

479
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,800
girlfriend or Mom are there when
I'm opening it up.

480
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,400
Not, you know, on my girlfriend
tears it open and I just paused

481
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,300
And she reads it across the
across the kitchen, because she

482
00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:02,000
ran away with it.
You know, she grabbed it,

483
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,800
because she wanted to open it.
She ran around the kitchen and

484
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,100
we all paused, she tore it open,
pull it out.

485
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:11,200
She said, Marcellus drop his,
you've been here been by called

486
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,200
to serve in the Rio de Janeiro
Mission.

487
00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:21,700
She's totally lying to me.
And so, I went there, grabbed

488
00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:24,000
it, read it.
And I'm going to serious, and I

489
00:24:24,008 --> 00:24:26,400
just ran outside, and did a flip
into the grass.

490
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,600
And I just go, I can't.
Leave.

491
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,800
I'm going to real, I'm like,
where's real nice?

492
00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:39,400
And so I end up getting into the
MTC and and I didn't know how

493
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,800
the rules work.
I didn't know I was supposed to

494
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,000
get set apart before I went on a
mission.

495
00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:46,700
In fact, if I could back up, the
funny thing is I'm going through

496
00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:50,300
all the interview process to go
on a mission and I go in with

497
00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:52,400
the stake president.
And he says, oh by the way, if

498
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,900
you're going to a mission,
you're going to have to work arm

499
00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:57,000
and some like what our garments
right long underwear.

500
00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:58,600
And I'm like, oh, I'm never
where.

501
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,100
Yeah, you've got to go on a
mission.

502
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,300
Going to go through the temple,
let me go.

503
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:03,700
Okay, what's in the temple?
And my my relatives were saying

504
00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:06,800
don't go through the temple
because it's all it is in there

505
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,600
is you know, people it's all
black in there and people wear

506
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:15,100
black robes and animal
sacrifices and they do sexual

507
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:17,700
ordinances and I'm like cool you
know as a teenager.

508
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:19,000
You don't tell a teenager to
that, right?

509
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,200
Yeah.
You're thinking that sounds so

510
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,200
metal, right?
I want to check that out, man.

511
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,300
I did in the temple.
It wasn't anything like that,

512
00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:27,200
you know.
I was like wow.

513
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:29,100
No, totally.
There were a little bit wrong.

514
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:35,300
Well I want wrong.
Yeah, so anyways my my interview

515
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,100
with the stake president, he
says you're gonna have to wear

516
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,300
garments.
Only where are those long

517
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:40,100
underwear?
And I remember being in Scouts

518
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:43,700
for a little bit when I was
really young, Cub Scouts and the

519
00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:46,800
older, the older men would have
these long underwears and I

520
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,800
thought, oh well, you wear
boxers when you're a kid.

521
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,900
When be when you get older, you
wear these old men wear

522
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:52,300
underwear.
If you want to, I didn't know if

523
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:55,200
he had any and I didn't know how
to anything to do with culture.

524
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,600
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.

525
00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:01,100
So he he said, if you're going
to go on a mission, you have to

526
00:26:01,108 --> 00:26:02,800
go through the temple.
If you go through the temple,

527
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,900
you have to wear these garments
and you're going to have to wear

528
00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:07,700
them 24/7.
And I'm like, oh my goodness,

529
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:09,900
are you serious?
Like, that's crazy.

530
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:12,400
I'm a beach boy.
I mean, underneath my pants

531
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,100
right now on Sunday, I've got my
my swimsuit I'm about to get on

532
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:17,900
the bus and go to the beach
right after church.

533
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:19,700
And he just sat there.
And he said, now you're gonna

534
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:23,700
have to warm 24/7 and with the
most sincere sincere heart, I

535
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:27,900
could, I turn to stay present.
I said president, I Do that for

536
00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:35,500
two years and he says, no, it's
not two years, it's the rest of

537
00:26:35,508 --> 00:26:36,900
your life.
And I'm like, what?

538
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:40,100
And I committed to that, I so I
was really green.

539
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:42,100
I had no clue what I was doing.
So I get in the MTC.

540
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:43,500
Never read the book of Mormon
before.

541
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:45,100
Never didn't know about Joe
Smith.

542
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,900
So I read the book of Mormon for
the first time in my life and

543
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:52,100
I'm sitting there bored to death
because I'm sitting there

544
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:54,900
thinking this is just like a
regular story there's like no

545
00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:57,300
crazy Doctrine or anything like
this, I missed it all.

546
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:01,700
First Nephi then I get to the
end of first Nephi and I hit the

547
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:04,700
Isaiah chapters and then I go,
wait a minute, I grew up with

548
00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:07,800
Isaiah in the Greek Orthodox
church that snake Joseph Smith.

549
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,200
Totally stole Isaiah out of the
out of the Bible, put in the

550
00:27:10,208 --> 00:27:12,600
Book of Mormon and I didn't
catch the whole idea that they

551
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,700
came from Jerusalem.
I didn't sure.

552
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:18,400
But I remember thinking what a
snake I mean, couldn't he make

553
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,900
up his own book?
Why did he have to copy me,

554
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:23,000
know, copy some other book and
put it in his book and I started

555
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,100
getting really upset and I start
preaching to all the people

556
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:29,600
there, you know, that that
Joseph Smith is false and he's a

557
00:27:29,608 --> 00:27:31,400
snake.
You know that he's stolen the

558
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,500
MTC MTC.
Wow, one of my teachers cry, the

559
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:36,600
other one was trying to figure
out.

560
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,900
How do we get this guy out of
here before he runs all the

561
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:42,500
missionaries and my other
missionary teacher said, you

562
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:43,800
know, don't worry you'll figure
it out.

563
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:46,500
So he was the only one that had
faith in me at the time.

564
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,800
And I don't know, I don't know
how they made it through the

565
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,700
through me, but but I kept
reading by the way afterwards

566
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:55,000
and I got to Second e Phi 2 and
I'm like, wow, this is really

567
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,900
interesting, if nothing else.
Secondly, if I introduce To is

568
00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:00,100
really philosophical.
That's really interesting.

569
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,500
Then I got to Second e59 and
something prick.

570
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:04,800
My heart saying you better take
this little bit more serious,

571
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,700
because this book might be true.
And then it took me six months

572
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:11,000
to get an answer in my, in my
missionary experience.

573
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,300
I was telling people, I know,
Joe Smith is a prophet, but I

574
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:16,300
don't know if the book is true,
you know, but, it took me six

575
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:19,500
months before I got an answer.
Now, back up, to where I learned

576
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,400
about.
Joseph Smith, is, I'm inside

577
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,500
these these meetings with all
the missionaries.

578
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,300
And, and I remember being on the
front, right?

579
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,800
Side.
When one of the missionaries

580
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,900
would send their going?
I know the church is true.

581
00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:34,600
I know that Joseph.
And I started crying and I still

582
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,900
remember who he was.
I still remember his face, I

583
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:39,200
still remember everything.
And in my mind I'm going, you're

584
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,700
such a liar, you grew up in your
goody-goody Mormon families,

585
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:45,300
and, and your been brainwashed
into her little kids.

586
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,500
You don't know any different
like I do, you know, you can't

587
00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:50,400
do anything like that, you know,
there's no way you can know that

588
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,800
Joseph Smith was a prophet in
Canton, know, the Book of Mormon

589
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,800
is true and I started thinking
these guys are just totally

590
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,200
brainwashed.
That was my attitude, well fast

591
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,800
forward, a few weeks later when
I was fighting against Joseph

592
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,700
Smith when I didn't Like Joseph
Smith.

593
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:06,300
I don't know why I didn't leave
the MTC probably because I

594
00:29:06,308 --> 00:29:08,400
didn't want to disappoint my
girlfriend at the time.

595
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,300
And I'm in this meeting and the,
my Branch President.

596
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,600
And by the way, I had a branch
president into counselors.

597
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,100
I thought the counselors were
psychologists.

598
00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:23,700
I didn't do that.
I got ya, I feel ya.

599
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:26,700
Yeah, I thought it was a branch
president to counselor so you

600
00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:28,900
know, so that they were supposed
to give they were supposed to

601
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:31,500
donate their time to do
psychology for the missionaries

602
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,500
and so I don't know.
What that meant and so anyway

603
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,200
he's up there talking about
Joseph Smith and I'm in the back

604
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,900
going though, another one,
right.

605
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,800
And I felt the spirit so strong
telling me that Joseph Smith was

606
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,600
a prophet even though, you know,
like what changed, you know,

607
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,600
here I am fighting against him.
It was so strong is the family.

608
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,900
Father opened up the windows of
heaven and let the spirit, just

609
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,300
just come down.
On me, in particular, out of

610
00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:58,000
that whole room.
And for, about two hours, I kept

611
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,100
feeling it, and I just knew that
he was a prophet, all my doubt

612
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:02,500
was gone.
It wasn't that.

613
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:05,800
I Learned a ton, it wasn't like
a like a, you know, I read all

614
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,900
these books or anything like
that, he just gave me this

615
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:13,100
absolute knowledge that he was a
prophet and more than that and

616
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,800
he took away.
One hundred percent of the doubt

617
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,700
I had.
Does that make sense?

618
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,100
Absolutely.
I didn't understand why he was a

619
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:21,600
prophet.
I don't understand how he was a

620
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,500
prophet.
I just knew he was a prophet.

621
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,300
So fast forward to this lady,
you know, with the ex-mormons

622
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:30,200
for Jesus, and she's she's
grilling me.

623
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,700
And I just say, I know he's a
prophet like I II can't, I can't

624
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:37,600
erase what happened that day.
I didn't ask for it, right?

625
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:39,900
It happened.
And so, it was just really

626
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:42,600
interesting experiences, but
that kind of got me on the road

627
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,300
to where I am today.
So, regardless of, you know,

628
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:49,700
like I teach I did, I mention, I
think, when you and I were

629
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:52,100
talking about, know, if I
mentioned it here, but it's

630
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:54,900
interesting that, you know, when
I teach youth because I used to

631
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:58,200
be in charge of efy, and it sure
you'd all these things, when I

632
00:30:58,208 --> 00:31:00,600
teach a youth, I asked him the
question, you know, if you saw

633
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,300
president house and walking down
the street smoking, Cigar, and,

634
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,500
you know, you know, cussing and
drinking and whatever else,

635
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:09,500
would you lose your testimony?
And I'm sitting there going,

636
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:11,300
they would say, well, we
wouldn't even know what to

637
00:31:11,308 --> 00:31:14,700
believe, and I'm just like,
well, I Believe In Christ and it

638
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:16,400
doesn't matter.
You know, the thing about it is,

639
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,800
I'm not, I believe 100% in.
Jesus Christ, 100%, in Jesus

640
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,700
Christ.
Because of an experience, I had,

641
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:28,500
okay, not even a question and I
100% Joseph Smith 100% in the

642
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,200
Book of Mormon.
I totally believe it, I believe

643
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,100
in the priesthood.
Scent.

644
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:36,300
Now, do I put my faith in a
person, okay?

645
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,500
And the truth is no in Jesus
Christ, right?

646
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:44,300
You know, does my belief make
me, you know, follow prophets

647
00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:46,300
and apostles?
Absolutely.

648
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:49,500
Okay.
But I also know that Joseph

649
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,600
Smith had, you know, some pretty
tough times with some Apostles

650
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,800
and even Jesus Christ, had one
of his apostles who, who ended

651
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,600
up joining us, a secret
conspiracy to turn against Jesus

652
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Christ.
And Jesus is Pretty good guy,

653
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,400
you know?
Right.

654
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,800
So, so I don't put my faith in
people, but I do put my faith in

655
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,600
priesthood and I do put my faith
in.

656
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,200
And, and all the things that
Joseph Smith asked us to, which

657
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,700
is Joseph Smith said, don't
don't put your faith in me.

658
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:21,400
You know, they put yourself in
good faith in Christ.

659
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:23,900
And so to me, I loved, I love
president Nelson.

660
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,700
I love, you know, all the
apostles, I love all these, you

661
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:28,400
know, the leaders and
everything, but it wouldn't

662
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,500
surprise me if any of them left.
It wouldn't surprise me.

663
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:33,700
It wouldn't do it.
Anything to my testimony.

664
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,400
Does that make sense?
Absolutely.

665
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:38,200
That's where I'm at right now.
Yeah, absolutely.

666
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:47,100
So I brought you on because of
your expertise in preparedness

667
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:53,000
and in in you know food storage
just being prepared for the

668
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,400
worst.
Yeah.

669
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,800
And one of the things that
fascinated me when we first

670
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,000
talked on the phone is you said
you were in Brazil when

671
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,200
hyperinflation kicked in.
Yep.

672
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:06,400
Can you tell us what that looked
like to somebody on the ground?

673
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,400
Because I, I've had, I've had
guys on here who are really

674
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,900
knowledgeable about economy and
I feel like I've that they've

675
00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:19,200
done a good job in pointing out
the fact that hey, we're we're

676
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,800
one event away, right?
And in the world of economy and

677
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,100
then the world of intelligence
and that sort of thing, they

678
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:30,800
call it a Black Swan event.
We are one Black Swan event away

679
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,800
from economic Irwin absolutely
God, tell me what that tell me

680
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,000
what that looked like, okay.
And in Brazil as a missionary,

681
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:44,300
okay, let me let me preface it
with, you know, for the last 12

682
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:45,900
years.
Let me give you my history a

683
00:33:45,908 --> 00:33:47,800
little bit.
Sure to be director of

684
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,600
entrepreneur development for the
state of Utah.

685
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:52,200
Under Governor Huntsman, I
helped set up the entrepreneur

686
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,800
program for the state of Utah.
I love building businesses.

687
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,700
I've done over over probably 30
businesses and and when I do the

688
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:02,500
businesses, I absolutely love
helping people.

689
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:05,400
Businesses money doesn't
motivate me, it's just craziest

690
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,000
thing but the helping people
building building a project

691
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,300
doing something meaningful now
that totally motivates me.

692
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,900
So about 12 years ago, some
friends of mine came out to meet

693
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:21,300
some investor friends and said,
hey, the you know, why don't you

694
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:23,100
pick a team?
Why don't you pick whatever

695
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,800
Niche business you want?
And why don't you and will fund

696
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,800
whatever you need and you go,
why don't you go group grow

697
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,900
agro-business?
And I thought, I know exactly

698
00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:32,400
what I want to do.
I've been thinking about it for

699
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,800
a while.
Well, thank you so much.

700
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,400
The funny thing is, we never
even had a contract, and they

701
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,400
gave so much money to help grow
my business at the time and

702
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,800
they're still my best friends.
And that's the interesting.

703
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,300
I wish the world could be like
that.

704
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:47,100
You know what I mean?
People live by Integrity instead

705
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:49,199
of by some contract and try to
break it.

706
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,000
Right?
But what's interesting is 12

707
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,300
years ago about 12 years ago,
this happened and I picked my

708
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,199
team.
I got my Niche and I was ready

709
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:00,100
to get started with that Niche.
I told one of my teammates on a

710
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,000
Saturday morning.
I'm going to go to the Internet

711
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,200
and try to Find a company we can
purchase.

712
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,400
So to we don't have to start
from scratch.

713
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:10,900
Hang up the phone with Ryan, his
name was Ryan and when I hung up

714
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,000
the phone, I went to Google and
is clear as day.

715
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,300
Something said, do food storage
and I was like, well, I didn't

716
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:18,700
wasn't thinking about that.
So I clicked on looked, it

717
00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:23,000
looked on and on food storage.
And I went to page 2 of Google

718
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,600
and I found a company called
food storage, Depot guy, running

719
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,100
it out of his basement.
Barely started, but he had a lot

720
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,400
of links and I thought, you
know, we could offer this guy to

721
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,400
buy his business, we're going to
try to rank his company.

722
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,700
Me and build this business.
And so call them up.

723
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:37,200
He wasn't expecting to sell
anything.

724
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,000
I gave him a really good price.
He said, I'll take it and we

725
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,200
took over food storage Depot,
right in its infancy and grew to

726
00:35:43,207 --> 00:35:46,400
number three, on the internet
shift from all over the world,

727
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:48,900
you know, a got the Navy Seals
of the client.

728
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:50,500
I mean just awesome things that
happened.

729
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:54,800
Wow.
With that in mind, I've had so

730
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,400
many conspiracy theories thrown
at me since, you know, I started

731
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,300
studying conspiracies from 2000.
I'm sorry for 1999.

732
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:06,000
Back in the day, when, when I
started studying on the internet

733
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,800
about the Illuminati and about
this about Carroll Quigley and

734
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,500
all these different things that
are out there, right?

735
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,200
And back in 1999, when you found
it on the internet Because the

736
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,900
Internet was so new it would
disappear into seconds, right?

737
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:21,000
Go the next day, it was gone and
I'm like, oh, that must have

738
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,400
been sensitive information.
Somebody took that down pretty

739
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,700
quickly.
Now.

740
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:27,000
Today there's so much
disinformation that you just

741
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,400
don't know what to believe.
Yeah.

742
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,600
And and back then I could study
things and find actually some

743
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,300
truth, you know, And so now it's
just really hard to find.

744
00:36:34,308 --> 00:36:36,100
What's true what's not true is
Q.

745
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:38,800
True is Q not true.
Is is this Trump?

746
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,900
Real is not real.
You know.

747
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:42,200
It's just you know what do you
what do you know, what do you

748
00:36:42,207 --> 00:36:44,000
believe?
You know, you just got to keep

749
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,200
an open mind them, maybe
possibly, Lucifer is really good

750
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,200
at masking things and creating
you know his own is you know,

751
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,800
build his own controlled
opposition.

752
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,900
Right.
So you just don't know anything

753
00:36:55,900 --> 00:36:59,000
but over those 12 years all
these last 12 years I get all

754
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,500
these conspiracy theories that
are thrown at me all the time

755
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:04,800
and Always listen.
That's the first rule of an

756
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,900
entrepreneur is you always
listen because you might think,

757
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:10,100
you know everything but if you
listen long enough you learn

758
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,300
something from other people.
And so you never cut down an

759
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:16,300
entrepreneur, you always listen
to their ideas and you're always

760
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:19,700
humble enough to listen, I
always listen, I'll tell you the

761
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:21,800
80 90 percent of the conspiracy
theories.

762
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,300
Go on a shelf and I keep my
little finger there and I just

763
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:27,500
keep my finger up there.
In case, there's enough evidence

764
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:30,000
for me to pull the down.
We'll probably about 10 years

765
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,700
ago.
I pulled one of those conspiracy

766
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:33,800
theories down because I I knew
there was enough evidence.

767
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,300
You want to know what that was?
What's that?

768
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:41,700
It was that there would be a
world economic crisis.

769
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,700
Yeah, ten years ago.
I knew that I absolutely knew

770
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:47,800
that wasn't a conspiracy
anymore, but there was a group

771
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,100
of people trying to create a
world economic crisis to be able

772
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:54,200
to bring people under control
and I knew that.

773
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,300
So my mind was going too.
Well, how are they going to do

774
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,000
this?
I mean, are they going to crash

775
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,700
the dollar because the dollar is
so intertwined because the Petro

776
00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:05,300
dollar that it could, Guy it
could influence So Many Nations

777
00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:07,900
all over the world but I said
but that one in you know you

778
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:10,800
crash the dollar, a lot of these
third world countries, really

779
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,400
don't depend on the dollar so
that wouldn't cover Every

780
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,100
Nation.
It wouldn't cover ton of Nations

781
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:17,700
had missed So Many Nations.
So I started thinking our Union

782
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:19,800
are they going to do a credit
crunch but then I thought you

783
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,500
know, a lot of countries don't
even live off of credit, they

784
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:24,500
live off of cash so that that
might not work.

785
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:28,400
Are they going to crash the
derivative Market which most

786
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,400
people don't know about the
derivative Market?

787
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:34,300
But the derivative Market has
about over just in the us alone

788
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,200
it's over half of a quadrillion
dollars in the derivative

789
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,500
market.
Now, if you were to add up all

790
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:44,300
the currencies in the whole wide
world it doesn't happen right?

791
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:46,700
Brilliant right.
So I thought if they crash the

792
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:50,400
the credit or the derivative
Market that's such a bubble.

793
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,100
Yeah that would take down every
nation you know that would crash

794
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:57,300
Nations all over the place and
so I thought well maybe they'll

795
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,100
use the derivative Market to do
it and that was my best theory.

796
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:05,200
But then all of a sudden 2020
comes On and in the pandemic

797
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,600
happens, right?
And it took me about 1 week into

798
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,800
the pandemic because they're
saying, oh one out of every

799
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,700
five, people will die.
One out of every 10.

800
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:16,100
People are going to die.
They just started throwing all

801
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:18,600
these big numbers and they
started closing down all the

802
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,800
businesses now fast forward.
We all know that.

803
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,600
One out of ten people went out
of five didn't die, right?

804
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:27,500
Right.
Like I got super sick with

805
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:29,300
covid.
I almost literally died it, so

806
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:33,500
I'm not minimizing it but if it
were a real pandemic, You okay,

807
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:35,800
we're one out of five or one out
of ten people were dying.

808
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:38,900
The government wouldn't have had
to close down our businesses.

809
00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:41,100
We would have done it ourselves,
right?

810
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,000
Nobody would have gone out,
okay?

811
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,900
But what was interesting is at
that time and I had family

812
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:50,700
members, who got sick with
covid, by the way, but we didn't

813
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,300
know what that was at the time
in December because they got

814
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:57,100
back from a cruise YouTuber,
January, my family.

815
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,900
Okay, I talked to people at one
of the big hospitals and they

816
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:04,300
were seeing things from
September October, I in 2019 but

817
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:07,700
somehow somehow it came out in
2020, hit the United States,

818
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:12,000
right?
But but what's interesting is is

819
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,000
during this time it literally
took me about one week into the

820
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,400
pandemic, all the hype, all the
things, all the businesses,

821
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,200
everything closing down
everything and all of a sudden

822
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,000
it hit me as strong as day.
This is brilliant.

823
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,300
Wow, this is yeah, really, I
never saw this one coming.

824
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,500
You know, let's close down the.
Let's close down the nation for

825
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,200
A week. 10 days, right?
Right, let's close down two

826
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,000
weeks, right?
Let's close it down.

827
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,700
Two months, one year, when a
half years.

828
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:42,400
Yep.
They're just going and you can't

829
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,600
go to United States.
You can't go to California with

830
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,900
the big gigantic.
You know freeways they have

831
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:49,100
there and they usually have
traffic and you can't slow down

832
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:52,400
five cars in the front on a
five-lane highway without

833
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,600
expecting a traffic jam, two
miles back, right?

834
00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:58,200
It doesn't happen.
So when they start, you know,

835
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,500
closing down all the Commerce
and they start doing all the

836
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:03,500
things they're doing, and, you
know, The all the animals are

837
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,400
killing and all this stuff.
It's going to, it's going to

838
00:41:05,408 --> 00:41:07,800
have repercussions.
But I just thought, man, this is

839
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,800
brilliant.
How do you blame something on

840
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,800
something?
You can't even see ya.

841
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:16,700
And so so with that in mind we
are I that doesn't take much for

842
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:19,600
our economy fall apart, it
doesn't just like Brazil.

843
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Okay, just like I'm about to
talk about.

844
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:24,500
It doesn't take much for our
economy to fall apart.

845
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,800
It could be one new story, the
other, the where, the brics

846
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,400
Nations launched their currency
and everybody loses trust in the

847
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,700
US dollar and because they don't
believe in the US dollar

848
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:37,800
anymore.
Nobody wants dollars anymore,

849
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:39,600
right?
It could be, it could be, I

850
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,700
mean, it could be a variety of
things.

851
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:43,500
There could be so many things
that, but we're one news story

852
00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:47,700
away at all times from us, not
having the security that we

853
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,800
think we have.
And when I speak to all these

854
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,900
big groups, I can't I can't tell
you how many groups don't

855
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:54,400
believe.
There's anything bad going to

856
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,800
happen.
I did a survey to a church group

857
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,500
before I spoke to the church
group, two weeks earlier, I gave

858
00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:02,500
them a survey to know what they
believe.

859
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:05,800
You'd be surprised, I asked
these questions.

860
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,600
Like, from a scale from 0 to 10
K, 10, meaning it will

861
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,000
absolutely happen 0, meaning you
won't ever ever happen, right?

862
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:17,800
How many of you believe that we
could enter World War 3 within

863
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,200
the next 20 years that we could
have a bit large earthquake in

864
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,300
Utah within the next, 20, 30
years or in your lifetime.

865
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:25,900
Actually I think I put that one
is a lifetime.

866
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:29,200
Anyways I asked these questions
and and I even ask the

867
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,400
questions.
How many of you believe that

868
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,000
Christ could come Um, in the
next 20 years, 30 years, right?

869
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,100
How many believe that Zion could
be established in the 20, 30

870
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,000
years?
You know, and I literally had

871
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,700
people in, you know, in the
church stay 0.

872
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:49,000
I'm like when I would go to 0,
you know, and I'm sitting there

873
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,700
going, I would never, you know,
I'm not a complete tan about

874
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:56,900
everything I'm a strong 9 but
but I would never put a 0 I mean

875
00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:59,000
I'd least put a 1.
Right, right.

876
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:02,900
What's interesting is this when
I took all the averages of Buddy

877
00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:06,600
in that, in that Ward.
And I put it together and I've

878
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,400
been doing emergency
preparedness professionally for

879
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,100
so long.
I mean I own the longest, the

880
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:13,200
largest emergency preparedness
retail store in Utah, food

881
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,100
storage Depot, I started the
longest lasting emergency water

882
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:18,500
in the world.
Okay.

883
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,300
The you know I work with filters
I work with.

884
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,700
I have food line called Ready
Harvest cells on Amazon.

885
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:31,000
It it's, you know, we have a
whole Warehouse.

886
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,400
We do, you know millions of
dollars.

887
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,600
Worth of food and all the stuff
I have a little bit of

888
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,600
experience in all this stuff.
But anyways, going going back to

889
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:42,500
the man.
I just want a DD i--.

890
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:45,300
Oh, it's okay.
I'm riddled with a your father

891
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:49,300
owns an add moment.
I was making a point with all

892
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:50,900
that and I went back.
What was I saying right?

893
00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:53,500
Before I started bragging about
all my accomplishments.

894
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,600
Just now just with with the you
were in this Ward and you gave

895
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,800
him the sorbet and then you took
the aggregate number.

896
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Yes, I took the aggregate.
Burke.

897
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,200
And what was interesting is this
when I aggregated all the

898
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,200
numbers on average simple
average?

899
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,200
No no weighted average.
But a simple average, I took all

900
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,400
the people who believed that
Christ could come design, could

901
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,400
be established in the next, 20,
30 years.

902
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,300
And guess what?
The percentage of people who

903
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:25,600
believed Christ could come in
the next 20, 30 years, what

904
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:30,200
would dreams 3%?
Okay, that that I've had people

905
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,200
say 3% or 5%, all this stuff.
It was actually 46%.

906
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:40,200
Okay, but what's interesting
about that 46 percent is if you

907
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,800
think about it, the parable of
the, of the ten virgins, okay?

908
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,900
That's about the that's about
the parable of the ten virgins

909
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:51,200
because think about it.
Let's let's go into the the

910
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,100
story.
Yeah, about half the yeah, yeah.

911
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:57,500
How many of the 10 virgins
believed that Christ would

912
00:44:57,500 --> 00:45:00,400
eventually come?
I've right.

913
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,700
No eventually.
Come eventually.

914
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:05,100
Come all of them.
All of them.

915
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:07,900
Did how many of them fell
asleep?

916
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,000
I can't remember all ten.
Okay?

917
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:17,000
Okay, but when the call came,
because the Lord tarried, right?

918
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,000
The Lord didn't show up when he,
they thought they would show up,

919
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,300
right?
Five of them were ready, in 5 of

920
00:45:22,300 --> 00:45:24,600
them.
Weren't right, okay?

921
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,800
Now, you can say that's a
spiritual analogies.

922
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,300
You can say that's a food
storage analogy, that you can

923
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:32,100
say that temporal preparedness,
spiritual preparedness, that

924
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:34,500
there's a whole ways, bunch of
ways that could take it, but

925
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:37,500
what's interesting is 50% of the
people and I would, I would say

926
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:41,300
that 50%, Percent is probably
pretty true with most Christian

927
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:44,000
religions, I think so.
Yeah.

928
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,100
And we're 50 percent believe
that Christ could come in the

929
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:51,000
next not will come, could come
in the next, 20, 30 years, and

930
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,800
in, so, it makes you, it makes
you wonder because here's all

931
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,000
these Christians that believe he
will come someday.

932
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,300
All ten virgins, believe that,
okay?

933
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,300
Five of them were ready.
Five of them weren't right.

934
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:04,100
And then five that warm say,
hey, we can't make it.

935
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:05,600
And, you know, whether this
Temple or spiritual

936
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,000
preparedness, we can't make it
without your oil.

937
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,300
Can you give us some of your oil
right there?

938
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:13,400
Like what we can because we
wouldn't be able to have enough

939
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,600
for ourselves, and again,
spiritual temporal, whatever it

940
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,800
is, right?
But but the point is, what side

941
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,300
are you on?
You know, like, I believe Christ

942
00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:24,800
could come in the next, 20, 30
years.

943
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,000
And I want to be ready for that.
Now, if you look at the Doctrine

944
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,600
and Covenants, DNC, 4:45 and you
look through the all the

945
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,400
different scriptures, we have,
it's interesting.

946
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,900
Because if you aggregate all
these different verses, what is

947
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:39,200
this?
A is says As interesting

948
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,500
interestingly enough even on
Matthew 24.

949
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,100
Okay, that there will be that I
think it's going to get worse

950
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:54,100
than we expect in sure.
DNC 45 it talks about how To

951
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:59,600
talks about how the people will
say, the Lord delayeth, his

952
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,300
coming until the end of the
Earth.

953
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,500
Okay?
So that's the in c-45 right

954
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:07,000
there.
The, the Lord delayeth, his

955
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,700
coming until the end of the
Earth and when you, when you

956
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:12,100
look at that, you think, okay?
Well, what does that mean?

957
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:14,700
It doesn't mean to the end of
the dirt on the ground.

958
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:16,600
It means to the end of all
people on the Earth.

959
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,600
And then, you look at another
part of the DNC, and it says

960
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,000
that if the beautiful don't
repent, the Earth will be left

961
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,100
desolate.
Without inhabitant right now.

962
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:29,900
If those two extremes could be
presented in the scriptures,

963
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:33,600
okay?
And and you have in Matthew, and

964
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,000
in the New Testament, where one
person will be two people be in

965
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,300
a field.
One will be taken to people line

966
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:41,500
in bed, and one will be taken to
people will be toiling.

967
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:44,200
One we've taken whether that's
physical spiritual, whatever it

968
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,100
is right.
If, if you can go to the extreme

969
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:49,700
that the world will can be left
without inhabitant that.

970
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:52,000
The Lord delayeth.
His coming until the end of the

971
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,400
Earth.
Nobody's alive.

972
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,900
Anymore.
You know unless they repent you

973
00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:59,900
can imagine that it could get
pretty bad before Christ comes.

974
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:02,900
And so in this, the point I want
to make with this before I get

975
00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:07,700
into Brazil, wow, a TD moment,
it's all good, so good.

976
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:11,300
The point I want to make with
this is just for those listeners

977
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:15,200
out here who believe in Jesus,
okay, who believe in Christ,

978
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,500
just know that when we hit the 7
years of tribulation, which a

979
00:48:19,508 --> 00:48:22,000
lot of people think all, we
started then 2017, I don't think

980
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,900
we have my Opinion is when we
hit the 7 years of tribulation,

981
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:29,600
tribulation will know.
I mean, it's going to be bad and

982
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,500
I think it's going to last so
long that people are going to

983
00:48:32,508 --> 00:48:35,700
start questioning is Christ
real, right?

984
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:39,200
Well, why isn't he showing up?
Why are so many people dying?

985
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,400
Why are so many people Surfer
own suffering wire?

986
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,600
Like Joseph Smith, talked about
wire wire mother's turning in

987
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,500
his daughters son, father's
against Sons.

988
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:50,700
Why are they killing each other?
Why is society falling apart?

989
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:53,300
Why, you know why is the
Constitution?

990
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:55,600
I'm getting to a point where
it's almost falling apart where

991
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,700
we have to save it.
Why is all this stuff happening

992
00:48:57,700 --> 00:49:02,700
is Christ even real and and as a
little lesson here we got to

993
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:06,700
remember to be the five virgins
that even though all 10 started

994
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:10,600
doubting all 10 fell asleep
because they started doubting

995
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,000
that he would make it that
night, okay?

996
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,600
That we need to be the five that
are prepared enough to believe

997
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,900
that he will still come tonight.
And when that time comes, we're

998
00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:22,900
going to have relief.
We're going to have helped in

999
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:25,300
that.
Tribulation will be a lot of

1000
00:49:25,308 --> 00:49:28,800
Miracles.
A lot of amazing miracles on my

1001
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,600
mission.
I remember, I didn't know what

1002
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,000
the spirit was, but I started
learning.

1003
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:38,100
And remember I'm being out there
and, and we had an experience

1004
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:43,500
where I was about to turn down
an Alleyway and the spirit told

1005
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:46,400
my companion, and I don't turn
down that Alleyway because

1006
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,500
you'll get hurt.
And on one side of the alleyway,

1007
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:53,300
was a mountain and the other
side of the alleyway.

1008
00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:57,300
And there are two to walls like
brick walls on both sides on the

1009
00:49:57,300 --> 00:50:01,100
other side was houses, I could
see all the way down the quarter

1010
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:04,100
quarter, half mile of the IL e.
I Le T way all the way to the

1011
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:06,800
other Street and by walking down
the alleyway, which we did

1012
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,500
probably a hundred times.
I it saved us so much time

1013
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:13,700
instead of walking a mile around
the whole, the whole thing I

1014
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:16,300
could see there was nothing,
nobody down there, and we could

1015
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:17,300
get through it pretty quickly.
We can.

1016
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,300
Can run if we needed to.
And when, when the spirit said,

1017
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:22,700
don't walk down my companion.
I said, do you see any trouble?

1018
00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:24,700
I said, no.
And I said, let's just do it.

1019
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:26,000
Let's go.
Right?

1020
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,300
So we started walking and we got
about halfway through.

1021
00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:32,500
And right before, right before,
or right, when we were in the

1022
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:35,000
middle, the guy starts running
down the hill of the mountain to

1023
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,600
jump on us and kill us.
You know, or arepa or not rapist

1024
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:44,100
was to called when you steal
people's money, mugga, mugga,

1025
00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:47,900
mugga mug us, kill us whatever
he was going to do, you know And

1026
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:51,000
Brazil Rio de Janeiro at the
time was number one, and number

1027
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,800
three, most dangerous places in
the world.

1028
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,100
Now, what's interesting is he
gets to the point where he's

1029
00:50:56,100 --> 00:51:00,100
about to jump on top of us.
When a gate, a gate opens up.

1030
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:01,500
I've never seen that gate open
before.

1031
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:04,600
Didn't see anybody there opening
the gate, I just thought go in

1032
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:07,700
and open it up till this day.
I think it was an angel of

1033
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:09,900
spirit or something, who did
that for us?

1034
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,100
Because I didn't see anyone
there.

1035
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:14,400
It just opened up the guy jumped
in a bush because he was afraid.

1036
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,300
Somebody was going to catch him
and we ran and got out of

1037
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,900
They're now the spirit told us,
there was problems, right?

1038
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,900
But we didn't listen now fast
forward in the mission.

1039
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:26,400
I'm walking down a street at
night and I feel the same

1040
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,800
feeling and I turned in my
companion.

1041
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,700
I said, hey, we're in trouble.
He goes, what do you mean we're

1042
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:31,500
in trouble?
I said, something's wrong.

1043
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:33,700
And he goes, but I don't see
anyone.

1044
00:51:33,700 --> 00:51:35,500
I mean, why do you say that?
We've got walk down the street

1045
00:51:35,500 --> 00:51:38,800
sometimes and he goes, I go, I
know it, I feel it.

1046
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,400
I said something's wrong.
So we look around and Farah

1047
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,200
probably about a couple hundred
yards back.

1048
00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:46,200
It's guy hiding behind cars and
things trying to sneak up with

1049
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,700
us.
I say, see that Right.

1050
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:50,700
There He Go.
He's about to get us and so we

1051
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:53,600
ended up running into a
born-again church while they

1052
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,900
were doing their.
Drumming and they're clapping

1053
00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:57,700
and everything else.
And we just ran inside that

1054
00:51:57,700 --> 00:52:00,500
church because it was safe and
stood in the back in the past.

1055
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:02,700
First kind of got tense and
said, what are they doing in

1056
00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:04,100
here, right?
We're like, no, seriously.

1057
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:05,200
We're just trying to save our
lives.

1058
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,100
You know, that's it, right?
So we learn to listen.

1059
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:11,200
Now, found a sport again.
I'm a I'm walking down the

1060
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,900
street through some wooded area
because we cut these Corners as

1061
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:17,300
missionaries.
Do to get back to our apartment.

1062
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,600
And like we had done probably a
hundred times before and like I

1063
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,800
always do, right?
And so we're cutting through

1064
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,300
these woods and these three
people with, with nylons on

1065
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:31,900
their head come running right at
us as fast as they can

1066
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:35,400
screaming.
We're going to kill you assault,

1067
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,800
assault.
We're going to kill you assault

1068
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,100
in Portuguese, right?
And they come running right out

1069
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:41,700
at us with the nylons on the
head.

1070
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:45,200
And I didn't feel any fear, I
didn't feel any danger, I'm

1071
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,400
feeling the darkness.
I felt like, I just didn't know

1072
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,100
what it was.
So I put my hands in my pocket,

1073
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:54,100
kind of leaned on one foot and
kind of cock my head while I

1074
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:57,000
just stared at them.
Like they were baboons running

1075
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,400
at me and I just stared at them
with no fear and just kind of

1076
00:53:01,408 --> 00:53:03,100
crunched my eyes a little bit
going.

1077
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:05,900
What are these guys doing?
And they ran all the way up to

1078
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:08,200
my companion.
Itin stopped about two feet in

1079
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,600
front of Us, and they took off
their nylons and they're,

1080
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,300
they're, you know, 17, 18 year,
old kids thinking that it would

1081
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:18,700
been smart and funny to scare
the missionaries.

1082
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:22,100
Right?
I didn't know that, okay, the

1083
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:27,200
spirit knew that and so when I
stared at them, they asked this

1084
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,400
question when they stop.
They said why didn't you run?

1085
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:32,800
And I said, because the spirit
told me that there was nothing

1086
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,900
wrong and they said, when we ran
at you and started trying to

1087
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:40,200
scare you and you stared at us
It's like you just stared at us,

1088
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:44,800
you scared us.
So they said that to me and I

1089
00:53:44,808 --> 00:53:48,500
ended up teaching two of them
and baptizing, two of, which was

1090
00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:50,900
really kind of fun.
But was interesting, is this?

1091
00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:54,800
The point is regardless of the
religion, regardless of the

1092
00:53:54,808 --> 00:53:59,800
spiritual background, the point
I'm making on this is regardless

1093
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,900
of how bad things get in the
future.

1094
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:06,200
Five of us at least need to be
on the side where we trust

1095
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,400
Christ enough to make it that
way.

1096
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,700
Trust Christ will come, even
though we can't see how he'll

1097
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:14,200
ever come, right?
Because things are getting that

1098
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,400
bad.
And again we have the promise

1099
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,400
that he will shorten the days of
tribulation for the elects sake,

1100
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,100
right?
For the elects sake, he's going

1101
00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:25,900
to make it better for people.
So anyways, my point is trust in

1102
00:54:25,900 --> 00:54:27,200
Christ, right?
Right.

1103
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,700
Let's go to back to Brazil since
I just started that and since it

1104
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:32,500
took us forever to get to this
point.

1105
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:35,700
So our house bill, which I hope
you don't mind that.

1106
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:38,000
I actually had all about, all
know you.

1107
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,700
You asked me to go by the spirit
and I did.

1108
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,200
Yep.
No, that's good.

1109
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:46,000
And and so, and I will continue
to go in that in this

1110
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,400
conversation.
As you asked me to go, no sweat.

1111
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,200
When I was in Brazil, it was
interesting because Brazil and

1112
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,400
United States are two different
animals, okay?

1113
00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:58,400
Brazil back in the 1989 1990
when they went through thirty

1114
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,000
thousand percent inflation in
1990, okay?

1115
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:04,400
Just give you feel what that
feels like, but it wouldn't say

1116
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,800
you get a thousand dollar
paycheck on January 1st.

1117
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,200
And you don't spend it by the
time you go to spend it on March

1118
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,900
31st.
Three months later, it literally

1119
00:55:14,900 --> 00:55:18,100
has the purchasing power of $25.
Yep.

1120
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:21,000
Okay.
Now if you were to take thirty

1121
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,600
thousand dollars a paycheck,
thirty thousand dollars in

1122
00:55:23,607 --> 00:55:27,800
January 1st, if you go to Denton
December, 31st of that same

1123
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,600
year, you have the purchasing
power of less than one dollar at

1124
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,500
that point, thirty thousand
dollars.

1125
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:36,800
Okay?
Imagine that's, that's something

1126
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,800
that's some people's paycheck
for the Year.

1127
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,700
Yeah, I'm that and you go buy a,
you know, a thing of bubble gum

1128
00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:45,600
with it, right?
Candy bar with it, instead of

1129
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,300
paying your mortgage, right?
And so that's what happened in

1130
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:50,900
Brazil.
Now, in Brazil at the time,

1131
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:54,800
okay, people didn't go in debt,
when they were going to build a

1132
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,100
house, they bought one brick at
a time and they paid cash.

1133
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,300
Okay.
So Brazil was in a place where

1134
00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:06,000
they could handle this type of
situation a lot better than we

1135
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,800
could handle it today.
If we were to go in because we

1136
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,200
live in debt, everybody pretty
much almost everybody in the

1137
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,600
United States lives on debt
credit cards mortgages.

1138
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:19,200
You know, you name it.
It doesn't matter, right?

1139
00:56:19,300 --> 00:56:23,200
We're a deaded nation, they
could handle it a lot better

1140
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,400
than we can today.
If it were to happen here, we

1141
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,100
would be in trouble.
We wouldn't be able to handle

1142
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:32,900
it, but them, they knew how to
get around it.

1143
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,900
They had enough Community to be
able to help neighbors out.

1144
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,700
They lived by cash not credit.
So they knew that, you know,

1145
00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:42,100
they didn't have big houses,
they didn't have all these

1146
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:45,400
expensive things.
They you know if the utilities

1147
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,000
went out okay, well they're used
to that happening anyway.

1148
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:52,300
Okay, right, that's right.
So so I learned a big lesson

1149
00:56:52,300 --> 00:56:55,400
because what happens and I'll
tell you what will happen in our

1150
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,100
country.
When things do get worse, if

1151
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:03,000
they go down the same path, way
you go to Target and and you

1152
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,200
see, you see the aisle ways and
you can want to get a vacuum

1153
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,400
cleaner.
How Different types of vacuum

1154
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,500
cleaners.
Would you find there?

1155
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,300
Dude, I try to avoid Target.
My wife loves Paris.

1156
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:17,600
I try to avoid it, but I'm gonna
go on a limb and say, you

1157
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,100
probably find 12 and anyone that
may be pain.

1158
00:57:20,300 --> 00:57:23,500
Doesn't, I don't know how to
Target much either.

1159
00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:26,600
But the thing about it is,
you'll probably find a number of

1160
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,100
different types of vacuum
cleaners, right?

1161
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,300
And then you go to you, go to
look at blenders, right?

1162
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:38,600
And you see, 10 blenders and 10
coffee, makers intend this and

1163
00:57:38,900 --> 00:57:41,600
you know, five ten of each type
of thing different types.

1164
00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:44,900
A bruise different types of you,
just have so much variety.

1165
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,700
Now, when a nation starts losing
its it's the power of its

1166
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:53,000
currency its Cycles.
I mean, I don't know if you knew

1167
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,900
this but this last month
November a lot of people didn't

1168
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:59,600
spend money.
Yep, I know that most wouldn't

1169
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,600
be really worried, right?
And it's becoming a cycle.

1170
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,600
Now when people spend less
money, how many businesses can

1171
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,900
stay in business?
Not very many, the big boys,

1172
00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:10,100
right?
The ones that take some

1173
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:13,600
Financial abuse.
Absolutely, but you start seeing

1174
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,000
more and more businesses, go out
of business because people

1175
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,800
aren't spending money.
Well, that's what happened in

1176
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,900
Brazil will happen is, you would
go into a store.

1177
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:24,300
And instead of seeing 10
blenders or ten coffee makers or

1178
00:58:24,308 --> 00:58:28,400
10, you know vacuum cleaners,
whatever else you have one.

1179
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:38,100
One of each and it's expensive.
And it's really low quality and

1180
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:40,500
because that's what it is, you
know, people aren't spending

1181
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:43,600
money on getting a new broom.
They're using their old rooms,

1182
00:58:43,900 --> 00:58:46,300
right?
Money on a new blender, you

1183
00:58:46,300 --> 00:58:49,600
know, they're using their old
blenders, you know, or borrowing

1184
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:50,800
their neighbors.
Right.

1185
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,100
Right.
And in so, you can't sustain

1186
00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:58,600
businesses, if nobody buys
anything right and it becomes a

1187
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,900
cycle.
Now, I did learn a cool lesson,

1188
00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:06,100
an amazing lesson and this From
a hot dog, vendor on the corner

1189
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:09,000
in Brazil, in petr��polis in Rio
de Janeiro.

1190
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:14,800
He he would stop, he would stop
me once in a while and say do

1191
00:59:14,808 --> 00:59:17,600
you have any American dollars?
I said I do.

1192
00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:21,700
He says are you going to take
them to the bank anytime soon?

1193
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,900
Said, yeah.
It says, what are the banks?

1194
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,100
What is the bank pain for one of
your dollars?

1195
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:30,700
A thousand of yours?
He says tell you what.

1196
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:33,000
If you have a dollar on you
right now I'll pay you a

1197
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,400
thousand ten.
And I'll take your dollar and

1198
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,900
save you a trip to the bank.
I said deal.

1199
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:42,800
That's a win-win.
You know awesome I'll take it.

1200
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,200
Give him a dollar.
He gives me 1010.

1201
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:48,400
I go take that thousand ten and
guess what I need to do.

1202
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,500
I have to spend it as fast as
possible because that thousand

1203
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:54,600
ten might only be worth 800
tomorrow.

1204
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:56,700
Yep.
So I got to go by as much as I

1205
00:59:56,707 --> 01:00:00,600
can as much as I can quickly.
Now, what's interesting about

1206
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:06,700
what he did is he just got $1
for me for 1,000 of his notes

1207
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,800
and week or a month later or
whatever.

1208
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:15,000
But I don't that dollar is now
worth ten thousand of his notes,

1209
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,100
right?
So he goes find somebody who

1210
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:21,900
will buy a dollar for 10,000 of
his notes, even if they don't

1211
01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:24,500
jack it up, it's the same price,
the bank would pay, right,

1212
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,500
right?
How are those to the bank?

1213
01:00:26,500 --> 01:00:28,400
And now, he gets ten thousand of
his notes.

1214
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,700
And now his 10,000 of those
notes, can by exactly the same

1215
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:37,900
amount that he could a month
earlier for 1,000 of his notes,

1216
01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:40,700
he hasn't lost any value.
Does that make sense?

1217
01:00:40,700 --> 01:00:43,700
Because of the doc Gibbs and
absolutely does?

1218
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:46,800
Yep.
Okay, so he hedged in hedged

1219
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,000
inflation with a dollar.
Now, dollar was the strongest

1220
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,300
currency at the world that I
know Now, you look today and

1221
01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:55,900
you're like, how would I do that
today?

1222
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,800
And I would say two things.
Number one, you know, find

1223
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,100
something like silver or, you
know, Poor Man's gold right?

1224
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:05,300
Silver gold.
I like silver to be able to

1225
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:09,100
hedge inflation.
So that when inflation happens

1226
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,500
you're able to you know, take
your dollar might be worth 50

1227
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:18,300
cents in a month, but that
silver coin can can can buy you

1228
01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:20,300
two dollars, right?
Right.

1229
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:21,900
Okay.
Get can double in price because

1230
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:22,900
it keeps its value.
You.

1231
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:27,500
So so right now I think silver
is being completely manipulated

1232
01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:31,400
because there's no way silver
should have a margin of more

1233
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,100
than a couple dollars.
Sure we're having fifteen,

1234
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:36,300
twenty dollar margins right now
so it's totally being

1235
01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:40,700
manipulated in my opinion.
And and so I think silver

1236
01:01:40,700 --> 01:01:43,700
someday will explode is my
opinion total opinion.

1237
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:48,100
That's my, that's my that's my
disclaimer.

1238
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,000
That I'm not a financial
advisor, you know.

1239
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,000
Right.
But but I think it'll Sunday

1240
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,700
gained a ton of You and it could
be act like a really good hedge

1241
01:01:56,700 --> 01:02:00,900
for inflation for short-term.
Now, whether our economy goes

1242
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:03,900
down, financially and then gets
better, and then goes down again

1243
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:06,300
or whether it goes down and just
keeps getting worse.

1244
01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:10,100
There will be a time in my
opinion, after 12 years of

1245
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:12,600
professional experience.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars

1246
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:17,400
mistake in mistakes, you know,
tens of thousands of hours of

1247
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,300
experience.
You right in doing preparedness.

1248
01:02:19,700 --> 01:02:23,300
My opinion is, I believe there
will come a day when things get

1249
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:25,600
so bad.
Bad that even a silver coin

1250
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,700
isn't worth anything.
Yep, I agree with you.

1251
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,700
So the last time, the economy
really took a dump back in

1252
01:02:34,700 --> 01:02:39,600
2007-2008 things got really slow
for surveyors.

1253
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:43,300
I was blessed because I was able
to kind of, you know, do my own

1254
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:48,600
thing and I surveyed for Farmers
out in rural Idaho and and I did

1255
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,300
okay.
It only took me three, surveys a

1256
01:02:50,308 --> 01:02:53,800
month to to do more than okay.
So I was right.

1257
01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:57,100
Is very blessed.
However, I had a ton of time on

1258
01:02:57,100 --> 01:03:01,100
my hands and so I read
everything I could on economies

1259
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,000
and the one case study, I keep
coming back to you is Germany,

1260
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,500
the the Weimar Republic, right?
The the Republic that was in

1261
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:14,500
power, right?
Before Hitler stepped in and

1262
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:20,600
when hyperinflation hit there,
And they inflated their currency

1263
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,400
for a different reason than we
do but the results are still

1264
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,500
going to be the same.
I fear you had guys who, when

1265
01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:32,600
hyperinflation really kicked in
started demand to be paid every

1266
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:37,800
day because just, as you said
the, the dollar lost their

1267
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,900
purchasing power and they
weren't getting paid in checks,

1268
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:43,900
they were like basically back
the Brinks truck up and we'll

1269
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:47,200
get paid in cash, the wives
would be standing right there.

1270
01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:51,000
They would give the money to the
wife to go buy the Necessities

1271
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,600
milk bread, whatever.
And because it was rising at

1272
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,700
such an accelerated Pace.
It was hundreds, if not

1273
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:03,800
thousands of dollars more the
following day, Then if he bought

1274
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:09,200
it right, then the other
experience I had that taught me

1275
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,100
a lot was right before the
lockdowns happened for the

1276
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:17,300
pandemic.
And I was at home.

1277
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,600
And it was about midnight.
I mean, it was strange.

1278
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,700
I was just up reading, like, I
normally do, I don't sleep much

1279
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:28,100
but I remember I just felt the
spirit.

1280
01:04:28,100 --> 01:04:32,500
Say, go to WinCo.
Go to Winco.

1281
01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:37,100
So I jump up and I like, I don't
know what I'm doing.

1282
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:41,200
But, okay, so I just, I take a
drive.

1283
01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:43,800
I couldn't sleep.
I was Restless at whole night

1284
01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:49,000
and I remember, I walked in the
store and the shelves are just

1285
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,900
bear bear.
Wow.

1286
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:56,500
And people are lined up.
I mean, the line was so long and

1287
01:04:56,500 --> 01:04:59,000
most WinCo's are laid out fairly
similar, but where the check

1288
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,500
stands were The line stretched
all the way back by the bakery.

1289
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:08,100
All the way back down and almost
down to where the meat was.

1290
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:09,700
You're kidding.
Oh my God.

1291
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:12,300
People were hoarding.
I shouldn't say hoarding.

1292
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:14,900
They were just it's not like it
was freed.

1293
01:05:14,900 --> 01:05:17,800
They were scared right.
There was a palpable fear.

1294
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,400
Yeah.
That I had never felt since like

1295
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,800
9/11, right.
That's the closest thing I could

1296
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,600
come up with, but I just
remember, I just walked the

1297
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,900
aisles, we didn't need anything
because we my my wife is a rock.

1298
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,600
And we had plenty of food in the
house and plenty of supplies and

1299
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,100
I didn't need anything.
So I wasn't there, buying

1300
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:41,100
anything And it became evident
on why I was there during that

1301
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:44,200
time but I just walked up and
down the shelves at flowers gone

1302
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,200
Sugar's gone ramen, noodles are
not.

1303
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,500
It's just gone it's just gone
there.

1304
01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:53,700
Just bear and these poor WinCo
people there they're unloading

1305
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:57,500
the truck, trying to restock and
they can't even get the boxes

1306
01:05:57,500 --> 01:06:00,400
open.
People all over the boxes

1307
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:01,900
Terran.
It open themselves and getting

1308
01:06:01,900 --> 01:06:04,600
stuff noodles.
Every just anything you can

1309
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,500
imagine, right?
Yeah.

1310
01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:09,300
And as I'm saying there, And I'm
like, why am I here?

1311
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:12,500
Why do I have to look at this?
And I'll never forget it.

1312
01:06:12,500 --> 01:06:15,800
And I've never shared this story
with anyone but my wife before

1313
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,200
this this podcast that you and I
are doing here.

1314
01:06:19,300 --> 01:06:25,400
The spirit said, Just know, this
is a warning.

1315
01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:30,300
Wow.
This is a warning of things to

1316
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:32,000
come.
Wow.

1317
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:37,600
And but it tastes and a sample
and that left such a huge

1318
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,100
impression on me that as I've
watched things begin to unfold

1319
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:47,000
now over and over, I keep
getting alarm Bells going off in

1320
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,900
my gut all the time and I I'll
never name names.

1321
01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:54,300
There's guys I bring on the
podcast but there's other folks

1322
01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:58,900
I talked to who Have acid.
I don't reveal who they are, but

1323
01:06:58,900 --> 01:07:01,200
they're in the know.
I'll just say it like that.

1324
01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:04,700
Yep.
And we are not stable, we are

1325
01:07:04,700 --> 01:07:10,200
not solvent as a nation and we
are a hair's breadth away from

1326
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,800
things we haven't seen maybe
ever.

1327
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,400
I mean, the closest you can come
to is maybe the Great

1328
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,200
Depression.
And I think a lot of people feel

1329
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,000
this, they don't know how to
articulate it, they don't know

1330
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:26,100
what to make of it, but there is
something wicked coming.

1331
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:29,800
Our way that will be like
nothing we've ever seen.

1332
01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:35,900
And we, the laws of economy are
a lot like the laws of physics

1333
01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:38,500
at some point.
They're going to be obeyed and

1334
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:42,600
the farther up you go, the
longer the fall back down and we

1335
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,300
haven't taken our medicine
economically.

1336
01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:49,600
Since the Great Depression, we
managed to squirrel our way out

1337
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,300
of any bubble and that we
weren't 30 trillion dollars in

1338
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:54,300
debt.
Yeah, me either.

1339
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,500
Yeah.
And so you go back and you do

1340
01:07:56,500 --> 01:07:59,600
the math and you start figuring
out what we've done.

1341
01:08:00,300 --> 01:08:04,800
We you know we averted one
bubble by I shouldn't say

1342
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,000
advert, we shortened it by
extending credit.

1343
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,900
The last time we and this is the
hard thing for people to

1344
01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:17,300
realize, I mean, really the
recession of 08 lat Did probably

1345
01:08:17,300 --> 01:08:20,800
2012 2013 before things really
picked back up again.

1346
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:29,000
Um, if we just look, At that.
That was shortened because we

1347
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,800
bought our way out of it with
cash.

1348
01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:34,200
Absolutely.
Now the cash is gone now, the

1349
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,899
cash is gone.
What do we stop it with this

1350
01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:38,500
next time?
Exactly.

1351
01:08:38,700 --> 01:08:42,300
There's nothing left.
You look at our economy and look

1352
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:44,600
at the entrance.
Look at inflation period.

1353
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,700
Okay, we have the Dow.
The, you know, we have the stock

1354
01:08:48,700 --> 01:08:50,500
market looking like, it's doing
really good.

1355
01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:53,200
And everything else is really
doing as good as it is, or is

1356
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,399
it, is it that our dollar has
lost value in it appears to be

1357
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,100
doing Just as good even though
it's going down right?

1358
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,700
You know because dollar dollars,
change numbers, right?

1359
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,800
Value changes numbers.
And and you look at how many

1360
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,100
trillions are going back into
spending.

1361
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,500
I think, you know, I think it's
just a matter of time.

1362
01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:13,100
You the government stopped
spending money, guess what

1363
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:14,899
happens?
Things employed right?

1364
01:09:14,899 --> 01:09:18,700
I think it's the fall fall.
Some, we're living in a false

1365
01:09:18,700 --> 01:09:22,100
reality right now, and excuse
me.

1366
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:25,600
And we absolutely are.
Do they change?

1367
01:09:25,700 --> 01:09:28,200
They change.
You can be admitted into the

1368
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,399
Dow, right?
If a company's doing too badly

1369
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,100
they're like okay, you're not
part of this anymore to make

1370
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:38,899
those numbers look better.
Yeah, if if an American citizen

1371
01:09:38,899 --> 01:09:42,700
or American Business did their
books like Wall Street in the

1372
01:09:42,700 --> 01:09:46,600
government we'd be in jail and
that's just the truth of it.

1373
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:52,500
And so and so I feel like we've
done a good job here in

1374
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:56,600
diagnosing, you know, the the
problem and I feel like I've

1375
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,800
done Another podcast but now I
want to present some solutions

1376
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,600
right now.
I'm not a big believer in just

1377
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,200
being the guy who just says You
know, here's the problem.

1378
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,100
We're screwed.
See you later.

1379
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,600
Good luck.
Yeah, yeah, I tend to be want to

1380
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:18,000
give, I love, I love, I love my
list.

1381
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,000
Yeah, I love my listeners.
I really do as I've come to know

1382
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,400
No, these folks.
Yeah I have a tremendous love

1383
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:32,600
for them and I want to present
Solutions on the way out because

1384
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:37,200
here's the thing.
Hope is contagious, just like

1385
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:43,300
fears contagious and and if we
can be that people that just are

1386
01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:47,300
were anchored to truth and we're
anchored to things that are

1387
01:10:47,300 --> 01:10:49,700
real.
Not only is that good for us, in

1388
01:10:49,708 --> 01:10:53,900
our family, but that helps us in
being able to tell people.

1389
01:10:53,900 --> 01:10:55,800
You don't got to go dark here,
right?

1390
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,300
Because fear and hunger is a
volatile cocktail.

1391
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,600
And, and let's, let's, let's not
just Preserve ourselves.

1392
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,700
Let's show people the way out,
you know, you don't, you don't

1393
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:12,000
have to go over that Cliff with
Humanity, so that the other

1394
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,500
reason I brought you on is you
have a lot of solutions, right?

1395
01:11:16,700 --> 01:11:18,200
That doesn't mean it's going to
be pleasant.

1396
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,100
Doesn't mean it's going to be
fun, but there are ways through

1397
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,500
and, and I want to talk a little
bit about that.

1398
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:24,800
Absolutely.
Yeah.

1399
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,100
Let's talk a little bit about
that.

1400
01:11:26,700 --> 01:11:29,100
If we're going to talk about
that, let me let me go a little

1401
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:33,000
bit further on what you're
talking about when I teach.

1402
01:11:33,700 --> 01:11:36,300
Teach from a more positive point
of view, but also from a

1403
01:11:36,300 --> 01:11:39,400
realistic point of view, I was
teaching a group of people that

1404
01:11:39,407 --> 01:11:43,000
were pretty wealthy, you know?
And, and I'm asking them, how

1405
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,200
much, how much food storage do
you have, you know, how much,

1406
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:49,500
how many supplies do you have,
how prepared are you for for,

1407
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,100
you know, an earthquake or
economic collapse or anything

1408
01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:55,100
like that?
It was surprising that not very

1409
01:11:55,100 --> 01:12:00,100
many of them had, very many
bending, just even, even even

1410
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:02,500
here in Utah, which is crazy,
you know, you're just like

1411
01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:04,100
preparedness capital of the
World.

1412
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:06,400
And barely.
Barely anybody had anything.

1413
01:12:06,700 --> 01:12:11,700
Now what's interesting is on
The, in fact, a little side

1414
01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:17,000
note, if I asked I was talking
to a group of men, one time and

1415
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,500
I asked them all these
questions.

1416
01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:20,700
Now if I ask their wives, the
question, it was at separate

1417
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:21,400
answer.
Yeah.

1418
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,600
And I was, I'd say how many of
you guys have at least a Year's

1419
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,600
worth of food storage, and all
these men hands, go up.

1420
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,800
If I were to ask the same
families of the women, how many

1421
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,800
of you would have years years
worth of food storage, barely

1422
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,900
any of their hands would go up.
So what's interesting is women

1423
01:12:37,900 --> 01:12:40,900
tend to underestimate How
prepared they are and they tend

1424
01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:43,400
to overestimate how bad things
are, okay?

1425
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,900
Men tend to underestimate how
bad things are and they tend to

1426
01:12:46,900 --> 01:12:49,100
over brag, how prepared they
are, okay.

1427
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,600
And it's just it's just part of
being a guy guess.

1428
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,200
You know, you got to show all
I've got everything and I have

1429
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,500
so many people say to me you
know I don't need to really

1430
01:12:56,500 --> 01:12:59,900
prepare because when something
really bad happens, I'm really

1431
01:12:59,900 --> 01:13:04,700
creative and I'll figure it out
then and that's majority that is

1432
01:13:04,700 --> 01:13:07,900
the majority of guys, right?
All these women might my clients

1433
01:13:07,900 --> 01:13:12,600
are primarily with men like 60%
women and and a lot of them are

1434
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,900
56 years old and older because
they understand what has

1435
01:13:16,900 --> 01:13:19,800
happened in history, where a lot
of 20 year olds go out and do,

1436
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,600
this is normal, this is how
everything is no, no this isn't,

1437
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:28,000
you know, so so it's interesting
is because men don't know where

1438
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,100
they're at.
A lot of times.

1439
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:32,200
It takes the women one times to
say, no, we need to get prepared

1440
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,700
and and and if a guy has a
attitude at all figured out when

1441
01:13:36,700 --> 01:13:39,300
it happens.
And you know, and I You can't

1442
01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:40,800
force somebody.
If you force them, they'll go

1443
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,800
the other way.
You have to find a way to get

1444
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,400
them interested without forcing
them.

1445
01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:48,400
But if they have that attitude,
just remember, you know, when

1446
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,900
you had your experience with
with the the shelves empty that

1447
01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:56,000
could happen very quickly for
good.

1448
01:13:56,100 --> 01:14:00,200
You know, it's not so for a day
or two for good Tiffany and P of

1449
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,900
attack happened.
In all the electricity, all the

1450
01:14:01,900 --> 01:14:04,000
trucking, all the food
production, all the water

1451
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,200
pumping, everything happened.
No, no refrigerators, it could

1452
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,500
be done for you.
Year or more.

1453
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,400
Absolutely.
And in additional the

1454
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,200
Congressional study on that set
up to 90% of the United States

1455
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,700
could perish or die because of
that, right?

1456
01:14:19,700 --> 01:14:23,500
And so there's go ahead or even.
So I was going to say, I have a

1457
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:27,700
when Hurricane Katrina happened,
I was on the eastern shore of

1458
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:33,400
Maryland and I worked for a
bigger company and we got work

1459
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:34,800
to go down there and do the
levees.

1460
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,800
And I made a good friend who
worked for FEMA and he said, EMP

1461
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,000
is Is Nightmare scenario.
That's the one that keeps

1462
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:45,800
everybody awake at night, his
agency. 90%, you know, possible.

1463
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,700
Very, very, very, very possibly.
It's going to happen.

1464
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:52,600
And so people got to understand,
you've got to prepare for the

1465
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,100
worst and hope for the best,
right?

1466
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,500
And so I'm talking to this group
of very wealthy people.

1467
01:14:56,500 --> 01:14:58,700
And ask question, I said, you
know, you guys.

1468
01:14:58,900 --> 01:15:03,100
It was guys and I said you guys
aren't very, very prepared but

1469
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:06,700
you have the means to do so, I
have the Widow's Mite walk into

1470
01:15:06,700 --> 01:15:09,100
my store, and with the last
little bit, Money.

1471
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:11,100
They have, they buy everything.
They can to get prepared for

1472
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:12,900
emergencies.
But here you guys can, you know,

1473
01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:15,900
you go, you can go on a
vacations for fifty thousand

1474
01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:18,900
dollar content by 3 and enjoy
your vacation with your family

1475
01:15:18,900 --> 01:15:20,900
but you won't even spend a
thousand dollars in emergency

1476
01:15:20,900 --> 01:15:23,800
food when you have the means to
do so and I said, can I just

1477
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,000
give you a from a logical point
of view?

1478
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:27,500
Let's just let me ask you a
question.

1479
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,300
Do you think the dollar is going
to be stronger next year or

1480
01:15:30,300 --> 01:15:33,000
weaker and they really well,
it's getting weaker inflictions

1481
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,300
happening.
Now, I'm do you think you're

1482
01:15:34,300 --> 01:15:36,200
going to be able to buy more
with your dollar or less?

1483
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,800
Well, obviously we just answer
that question less, right?

1484
01:15:39,500 --> 01:15:42,700
Well do you think possibly we
could go through?

1485
01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:45,800
Go to a recession?
Well yeah, it's been the longest

1486
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:48,300
stretch in our nation's history
without a recession.

1487
01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:51,600
Obviously could happen.
I said if it does happen with us

1488
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,900
being trillion, 30 trillion
dollars in debt, you know, is it

1489
01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:57,900
possible that that recession
could turn into a depression

1490
01:15:57,900 --> 01:16:00,600
this time?
Like we had 100 years ago, okay.

1491
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,400
And he said, yeah obviously it
can I said if there was a

1492
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,300
depression with the depression
in your mind's, only last a year

1493
01:16:08,300 --> 01:16:11,500
or less Yes, where do you think
it would last a year or more?

1494
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,200
And they're like going.
Well, if you were a depression,

1495
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,600
not a recession recession, I
mean the last one took about 45

1496
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,300
years to get out of right 56
years.

1497
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,100
If your depression?
Yeah I mean it would last

1498
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:26,900
probably seven ten years or more
and I said then you just

1499
01:16:26,900 --> 01:16:30,500
answered your own question you
know you know things are going

1500
01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:32,300
to get bad.
You know they can get really

1501
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:35,800
bad, why don't you go spend your
money and buy food for a dollar

1502
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,200
today instead of a hundred
dollars tomorrow And go get 30

1503
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,500
year, shelf life foods like real
foods, not not the ones they say

1504
01:16:42,500 --> 01:16:46,200
up to 25 year shelf life, like
you see online all the time,

1505
01:16:46,900 --> 01:16:49,600
some of the young something
companies out there that

1506
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:54,100
advertise the most are, are the
cheapest worst products in our

1507
01:16:54,100 --> 01:16:56,100
industry.
But they have the biggest margin

1508
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:58,700
so they can out Market,
everybody, and everybody thinks

1509
01:16:58,700 --> 01:17:02,200
they're the best, right?
But they're not you know, and so

1510
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,500
you know I don't play those
games, I think they're dumb.

1511
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,100
So get away from the up to s20
how up to 25 years.

1512
01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:11,700
Fly foods and all that stuff.
Get to the food's actually do

1513
01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:13,300
work, but I was telling these
guys.

1514
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:18,200
Why don't you go by, you know,
go buy extra food and put it

1515
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,500
away.
And I said, if I'm wrong and we

1516
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:23,700
do not go through anything at
all.

1517
01:17:23,700 --> 01:17:25,500
Okay.
And this world is perfectly

1518
01:17:25,500 --> 01:17:28,500
perfect.
You know ten years from now and

1519
01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:31,400
there's no recession.
There's no depression there.

1520
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,800
Still be going to be inflation.
You'll be able to turn to me and

1521
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,600
say, hey, Marcel.
That was that was the best

1522
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,100
investment could have made, you
know, we bought.

1523
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,200
Bought food for a dollar, an
hour, its $100 and and we're

1524
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,800
eating it up and we're saving a
ton of money from groceries

1525
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,000
because of your advice.
Thank you so much right now.

1526
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,500
If the economy does crash or we
go through an EP or whatever and

1527
01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:55,200
they have all that food, then
the then they can think me

1528
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,200
because they actually got
prepared for emergencies.

1529
01:17:57,500 --> 01:18:01,500
So the point is people have to
get out of this mentality of, I

1530
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:02,800
don't need to get prepared until
things.

1531
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,900
Get that bad.
You need to get prepared before

1532
01:18:04,900 --> 01:18:06,900
they get bad.
It's better to be prepared a

1533
01:18:06,900 --> 01:18:09,600
year early than even.
In just one day too late.

1534
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,000
Does that make sense?
Absolutely, it does absolutely,

1535
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,900
it does because when it comes,
it's too late.

1536
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,600
And I have a feeling that this
is going to come to borrow from

1537
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,100
scripture, come like a thief in
the night, right?

1538
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:30,500
We what we're up against now is
Is nothing that you it's not

1539
01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:36,700
something you can plan for week
beforehand, this will be drastic

1540
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,300
and this will happen overnight.
It doesn't take much.

1541
01:18:40,300 --> 01:18:45,900
We saw it, right?
Just the just a government

1542
01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:48,100
official saying, hey, we're
going to go ahead and we're

1543
01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:51,900
going to everybody staying home
for two weeks, right?

1544
01:18:52,500 --> 01:18:59,100
Panic panic in Orem Utah, right?
The One place on God's green

1545
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:02,600
earth.
That should have been the best

1546
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,700
place to be.
During that right Common Sense

1547
01:19:05,700 --> 01:19:07,600
would dictate.
All these people have had it

1548
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:12,100
drummed into them for decades,
get prepared, have food storage

1549
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,900
We were flat foot.
We were as flat-footed as

1550
01:19:15,900 --> 01:19:19,800
anybody else when when that
punch came to the face right

1551
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:24,400
hand, and it bore it out and it
was a spooky spooky scenario to

1552
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,000
stand in the middle of that
store.

1553
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,300
And and I've never been
someplace where the fear was

1554
01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:38,600
that palpable, right?
And and I felt genuine concern.

1555
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,700
I just want to put my arms
around people and be like, it's

1556
01:19:40,700 --> 01:19:43,000
gonna be all right.
And see.

1557
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,900
That wasn't even a huge crisis.
No, that was planned.

1558
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,200
That was planned, right?
That was that was a story.

1559
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,800
That was with the idea of and
we're going to keep stores open

1560
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,400
through this.
So you can still go get food.

1561
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:04,200
This was not War tomorrow, we're
all the sudden we can't get

1562
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,800
supplies in.
We stopped trading with China,

1563
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:12,400
we stop importing something.
It was hey the stores are still

1564
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,200
going to be open but everyone's
working from home for two weeks

1565
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,400
and we're canceling school.
It was just that that set that

1566
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:25,200
whole Cascade of events into
motion, it revealed how fragile

1567
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,600
we really are as a society.
Yeah we're totally dependent.

1568
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,800
And I have a friend who's very I
will be wealthy and he, he drove

1569
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,600
drove around with his family and
I, he sold all his properties,

1570
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,300
tons of properties, and he drove
around in a RV for long.

1571
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:41,700
His time, looking for where he's
going to live next.

1572
01:20:41,700 --> 01:20:44,500
And here he is, you know,
totally wealthy in an RV with a

1573
01:20:44,508 --> 01:20:47,000
bunch of kids.
Hairs unkept people were

1574
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,200
probably thinking poor guy.
We probably need to donate to

1575
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,300
this guy and he could live
anywhere.

1576
01:20:51,300 --> 01:20:55,800
He wanted to he ended up on
moving to a place in Idaho and

1577
01:20:56,100 --> 01:20:59,700
and he bought like a little
piece of farmland and and kind

1578
01:20:59,700 --> 01:21:01,500
of out in the Boonies.
And he said something

1579
01:21:01,500 --> 01:21:04,100
interesting to me.
He said, Marcel were still close

1580
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:06,900
to a Walmart that's too
uncomfortable for me.

1581
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,000
And yeah, if we're that
dependent that, we need to have

1582
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,500
a Walmart and I have to depend
on a Walmart.

1583
01:21:12,500 --> 01:21:15,500
That's still too uncomfortable.
You know, the point I got from

1584
01:21:15,500 --> 01:21:18,900
him is I'd rather create pain
now and gain later, rather than

1585
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:20,700
gain.
Now in pain later, you know, I'd

1586
01:21:20,700 --> 01:21:22,200
rather pay the price of the
pain.

1587
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,500
Now, to learn how to get
prepared now and buy the

1588
01:21:25,500 --> 01:21:27,500
supplies, get what you need?
Don't hoard.

1589
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,900
Okay, don't don't become an
extremist, but The right things,

1590
01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:33,500
you know, to learn how to do it.
You you and I talked about I'm

1591
01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:36,100
going to be putting on a
preparedness Challenge and I can

1592
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:39,000
get you the link later on but
I'm going to do a preparedness

1593
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,100
challenge where I'm going to
teach people how to do seven

1594
01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:43,800
steps of preparedness.
Kit ready, right?

1595
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,700
And in the interesting thing is,
in our industry, we have two

1596
01:21:46,700 --> 01:21:50,400
camps.
We have we have Preppers and

1597
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,300
survivalists, okay?
People have heard of Preppers

1598
01:21:53,300 --> 01:21:55,500
and survivalist, I went to the
internet, try to figure out.

1599
01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:57,500
Okay, what's the definition
between the two and words?

1600
01:21:57,500 --> 01:21:59,900
The delineation is obviously I'm
a prepper.

1601
01:21:59,900 --> 01:22:01,600
I'm A survivalist.
I'm both right?

1602
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:04,400
And what's interesting is
Preppers, learn survival skills

1603
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,000
and survivalist, learn proper
skills.

1604
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:07,800
There's, there's a mix between
the two.

1605
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,900
You're not just a prepper, just
a survivalist, for the most

1606
01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:13,200
part.
Some people are but the, but,

1607
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,300
but when I looked at, I couldn't
find a definition, where's the

1608
01:22:15,300 --> 01:22:17,900
delineation until I thought?
Okay, wait a minute, I can

1609
01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:20,400
Define this really easy.
It's not hard, a prepper,

1610
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,800
somebody who focuses on supplies
over skills, and somebody who's

1611
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,000
a survivalist.
Okay, focuses on skills over

1612
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,400
supplies.
Okay.

1613
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,800
Now doesn't mean that's all they
do, but that's the Spray now on

1614
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,300
the outskirts of the prepper are
the senseless fear-driven

1615
01:22:35,500 --> 01:22:38,400
ignorant hoarders, who buy
anything and everything, fill up

1616
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,000
their whole house, make their
families, really uncomfortable

1617
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,600
but they don't know what they're
buying, they're just buying

1618
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,000
everything.
Okay?

1619
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:48,400
And a lot of times it's tough
goes bad, it goes spoils, it's

1620
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,200
the wrong stuff.
You can't live off of it and

1621
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,800
they just spent their life
savings on this stuff right

1622
01:22:52,900 --> 01:22:54,400
there.
There's order to getting the

1623
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,800
right stuff at the right time
and that's what we teach.

1624
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,600
I'll be sharing some of that
stuff in the challenge.

1625
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,400
I'm going to be doing It and you
need to know what to buy without

1626
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,200
going overboard and becoming a
hoarder.

1627
01:23:04,500 --> 01:23:07,000
Now, on the flip side, on the
skill side, you have the

1628
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,200
survivalists, right?
And on that side, if you're

1629
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,400
going to go to the extreme, you
have either minimalists gay who

1630
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,000
say, well, I don't really need
any supplies at all, because I

1631
01:23:16,008 --> 01:23:20,000
know how to use a knife and I
know how to survive and I'll be

1632
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,800
able to survive no matter what.
So I don't need any supplies,

1633
01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:26,600
okay.
And that's an extreme it all

1634
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,100
reality.
I was also teaching it at a

1635
01:23:29,108 --> 01:23:33,500
survivable Conference about 450
people there and I was teaching

1636
01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:36,000
for about 45 days on
preparedness.

1637
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,400
Okay.
Now survivalist, but

1638
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:41,800
preparedness the prepper side
and one of the guys actually

1639
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,100
told me, well, I really don't
need to get supplies because I

1640
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:46,000
know how to survive.
And I said, why would you do

1641
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,500
that to your family?
Why would you do that?

1642
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:50,100
Your kids?
How many people do you think are

1643
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:51,300
going to go after the same
neighbor?

1644
01:23:51,300 --> 01:23:53,600
Had neighborhood dog.
Okay.

1645
01:23:53,900 --> 01:23:56,400
It's like, there's only so many
of those dogs, right?

1646
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,800
How are you going to feed your
family or you to try to kill

1647
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,300
their cats to and everything?
Else.

1648
01:24:00,300 --> 01:24:02,700
Everyone else is going to go
after those same animals.

1649
01:24:03,100 --> 01:24:06,400
Why don't you while you have the
means and get some supplies in

1650
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:07,900
place to be able to protect your
family.

1651
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,600
And if you get to an emergency
and you can use all your

1652
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,200
survival skills, never have to
dip into that supply of food and

1653
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,000
water and everything else.
Awesome.

1654
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:18,200
Good.
Good for you.

1655
01:24:18,300 --> 01:24:19,800
Awesome.
But why would you put your

1656
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,900
family in danger in a place
where they are going to be?

1657
01:24:22,900 --> 01:24:25,500
So uncomfortable, because maybe
your survival skills aren't good

1658
01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:28,500
enough at that point, right?
Why wouldn't you just get the

1659
01:24:28,500 --> 01:24:31,300
supplies now and just Do the
right thing and he goes, oh,

1660
01:24:31,300 --> 01:24:34,500
good point, you know?
And and the point is on the

1661
01:24:34,500 --> 01:24:37,200
survival side, there are the
extremists which are either

1662
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,000
minimalists.
You know, I can survive off of

1663
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,500
anything.
Let me show off, right?

1664
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,000
And typically, guys, right in
the women are like, no, we need

1665
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,300
supplies and then the other side
are militants.

1666
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,100
And those are again, are based
on fear or ignorance, right?

1667
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:55,400
Because they don't believe they
need supplies anyways, because

1668
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,400
they have enough guns and
bullets that they're going to

1669
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,900
just fight everybody and take
somebody else's supplies.

1670
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:01,700
Eyes.
And if anyone gets close to

1671
01:25:01,700 --> 01:25:03,300
their house they'll shoot him,
right?

1672
01:25:03,500 --> 01:25:06,300
And so either, those are just
extreme the hoarders or the

1673
01:25:06,300 --> 01:25:08,200
militant minimalist, or
militants.

1674
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,500
The truth is it's good to be a
prepper.

1675
01:25:10,500 --> 01:25:12,400
It's good to be a survivalist.
If you have the right skills

1676
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,100
without going overboard, and you
have the right supplies without

1677
01:25:15,100 --> 01:25:18,300
going overboard, those need to
come just like a Venn diagram.

1678
01:25:18,300 --> 01:25:21,400
Those two circles need to cross
over and that middle circle that

1679
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,900
middle area right in the middle
where they cross over, that's

1680
01:25:24,900 --> 01:25:28,200
where people can Thrive, not
just survive during emergencies.

1681
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,900
That's a thriving list, that's
We're starting to teach people

1682
01:25:31,900 --> 01:25:35,000
is not not the negative side or
preparing, but the positive, the

1683
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,900
thrival is.
So I just purchased the

1684
01:25:36,900 --> 01:25:43,000
rivals.com and we're going to be
creating a whole new wording in

1685
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,500
the industry called thriving
lists, so that we can teach

1686
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:50,300
people to get the right supplies
and the right skills, okay?

1687
01:25:50,700 --> 01:25:53,300
And in the reason skills are so
important is because think about

1688
01:25:53,300 --> 01:25:54,900
it.
What if you did get, you know,

1689
01:25:54,900 --> 01:25:57,200
seven ten years worth of
supplies, you have tons of

1690
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,200
supplies and all of a sudden
that there's something that

1691
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,100
happens and you lose.
Is all your supplies okay?

1692
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,400
You can't take away your
Knowledge and Skills, right?

1693
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,700
If you have Knowledge and
Skills, okay, you can walk

1694
01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:11,000
through TSA with Knowledge and
Skills.

1695
01:26:11,300 --> 01:26:13,400
You might not be able to bring
all your supplies but through

1696
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,100
TSA.
They can't take that away from

1697
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:18,400
you, so you have to have both
sides, okay?

1698
01:26:18,700 --> 01:26:22,000
And hopefully you never lose
your supplies, but if you do at

1699
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,600
least, you have some Knowledge
and Skills to back it up.

1700
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,800
So that's the thing.
Those thrival is that's we're

1701
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,100
going to be teaching people how
to do is be thriving list and

1702
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:30,000
that's where we're going to be
introducing in this.

1703
01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:32,800
Big preparedness challenge
that's coming up pretty soon so

1704
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,400
I'll hopefully get that link to
you, to help you out.

1705
01:26:35,700 --> 01:26:38,400
But anyways, I can go in a whole
bunch of directions.

1706
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,400
You want me to teach in the five
days of challenge.

1707
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,800
I'm going to go in depth into
the seven steps of preparedness.

1708
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,800
Would you like me to touch on
those seven steps?

1709
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,600
Right now, let's just touch on
them.

1710
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,200
I don't want you to give
anything away so to speak, you

1711
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,100
know what I mean?
Because I am a capitalist so I'm

1712
01:26:55,100 --> 01:26:59,000
not but if you could go on for
hours on each step and not give

1713
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,100
a ton of way because I have have
I spent over 3,000 hours putting

1714
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:06,600
together a course for people to
be able to do preparedness and

1715
01:27:07,100 --> 01:27:10,000
and there's so much material.
I could I could give a ton of

1716
01:27:10,008 --> 01:27:12,400
material.
Its let's we're already at the

1717
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:17,400
two-hour Mark, let's let's go
ahead and let's let's touch on

1718
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,200
those seven.
Right.

1719
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:23,300
Let's just kind of make a list
and maybe what I'll do is as I

1720
01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:27,000
edit this and get it ready, I'll
also go ahead and list.

1721
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,700
Those seven steps for people on
credit.

1722
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:33,200
And then we'll have your link
there and they can go to that

1723
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,600
link and and get the get the
full story so to speak.

1724
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,900
But let's just hit those seven
real quick Marcelo.

1725
01:27:38,900 --> 01:27:41,900
Yeah, let's do it.
So what happens is when it comes

1726
01:27:41,900 --> 01:27:45,500
to preparedness, there's about
four, four sections, in my

1727
01:27:45,500 --> 01:27:49,300
course, that everybody covers.
I added three more that weren't

1728
01:27:49,300 --> 01:27:52,100
there and I still put it all in.
72, people say, to me all you

1729
01:27:52,100 --> 01:27:54,000
can't put all your steps in
seven steps.

1730
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,900
I'm like, absolutely you can and
I'll give you the logic, why.

1731
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:58,300
So let's start with the first
one.

1732
01:27:58,300 --> 01:28:01,600
The first one is a proper.
A proper risk assessment.

1733
01:28:01,700 --> 01:28:06,000
So what I mean by proper risk
assessment, is that in?

1734
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,100
And you can put just number one
risk assessment if you want to

1735
01:28:09,300 --> 01:28:11,100
or proper with risk assessment,
either way.

1736
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:15,000
But what I mean by that is when
I speak at all these big groups,

1737
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,800
I ask people, what are you
preparing for?

1738
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:18,600
And what kind of answers do I
get?

1739
01:28:18,700 --> 01:28:21,800
Oh, a large earthquake.
I'm preparing for her cream.

1740
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,600
I'm preparing for emt-p, Attack
on preparing for food,

1741
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,500
shortages, and preparing, for
inflation.

1742
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,800
And preparing the tell me all
these things, and that's what

1743
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,200
most Most people do, that's
where people stop.

1744
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,000
They stopped.
Okay.

1745
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,500
The truth is they have no clue
what they're preparing for still

1746
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,700
because I can say, okay, what
was it EMP attack due to

1747
01:28:42,900 --> 01:28:44,600
Refrigeration?
What is the due to

1748
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,700
Transportation?
One of the MP attack due to the

1749
01:28:47,700 --> 01:28:53,100
mentality of people in an area?
What does EMP attack due to the

1750
01:28:53,100 --> 01:28:56,300
large power Transformers?
How often how long do they need

1751
01:28:56,300 --> 01:28:58,700
before?
Those can be repaired or

1752
01:28:58,700 --> 01:29:02,900
replaced.
How long before a It starts

1753
01:29:02,900 --> 01:29:05,300
breaking out you know, 72 hours
right?

1754
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:11,200
Three meals yeah, how long, how
long before bad people start

1755
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,400
doing bad things to good people?
You know what happens during an

1756
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,900
EP and then you know the
question earthquake.

1757
01:29:16,900 --> 01:29:18,300
Okay.
So what's the difference between

1758
01:29:18,300 --> 01:29:21,200
a 5.0 and 7.0 earthquake in your
area?

1759
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:25,100
Like, we live in Utah right now,
where you live, where I just

1760
01:29:25,100 --> 01:29:28,700
moved out of, by the way, is is
in where my store is?

1761
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:33,800
Is an ancient lake bed.
You don't move out because

1762
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:34,900
you're afraid and all that
stuff.

1763
01:29:34,900 --> 01:29:37,400
You move out of the spirit tells
you to which is what happened to

1764
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,000
me, okay?
You stay there.

1765
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,700
If you're supposed to stay
there, you know, even if you're

1766
01:29:40,700 --> 01:29:42,600
going to die, you just follow
the spirit, it doesn't matter.

1767
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,300
But what happens is in that
ancient lake bed when I Was

1768
01:29:45,300 --> 01:29:47,800
preparing for emergencies?
I thought, well, if I'm going to

1769
01:29:47,808 --> 01:29:50,500
teach people to do a proper risk
assessment, which in my course,

1770
01:29:50,500 --> 01:29:53,800
I actually compile all the
information, like, 80% of the

1771
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,600
information.
So people don't have to do all

1772
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,400
the work.
I had to do, teach people what

1773
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,300
to do, you know?
Like this is, I'm going to do

1774
01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:03,400
the risk assessment for you and
then you have % to do it on your

1775
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,500
own because I don't live where
you live.

1776
01:30:05,700 --> 01:30:08,200
So what I did is I ended up
learning a ton about

1777
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,200
earthquakes.
Like what is the point 5.0?

1778
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,100
What's the 7.0?
What's the 10.0?

1779
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,700
You know, words been the words
the largest earthquake that ever

1780
01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:15,700
happened?
What did you do?

1781
01:30:15,900 --> 01:30:18,000
How did it whether to do around
the area?

1782
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,300
How did it, what did it do for
tsunamis?

1783
01:30:20,300 --> 01:30:22,200
Like what?
What where are the best worst

1784
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,400
places in the United States for
earthquakes?

1785
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,300
And, you know, you can people
say, California, I go.

1786
01:30:26,300 --> 01:30:29,100
No, where's the California's?
Oregon the coast of Oregon and

1787
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:32,100
watching that, you know, Utah's
really bad to me.

1788
01:30:32,300 --> 01:30:34,600
West is really bad.
You have all these different

1789
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,300
places that people don't even
know about because they're just

1790
01:30:37,300 --> 01:30:39,500
not aware of it.
And so I ended up studying about

1791
01:30:39,500 --> 01:30:41,400
earthquakes and I put all that
in my course, by the way, the

1792
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,800
stuff I studied I'd passed on to
other people.

1793
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,200
But what's interesting is I
ended up calling the state.

1794
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:50,500
I called local like you know,
the school board's utilities

1795
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:55,600
started asking questions to find
out what it is locally for me in

1796
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,100
this is what I found out because
Utah Valley or Salt Lake.

1797
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:01,800
Valley is an ancient seabed,
it's full of sand.

1798
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,800
If that's a Starship Ting,
there's a lot of water

1799
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,600
underneath and we're going to
have liquefaction, it's going to

1800
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,100
flood a lot of places.
Okay, what are you going to come

1801
01:31:09,100 --> 01:31:12,100
up from the ground?
Okay, worse than that is a lot

1802
01:31:12,100 --> 01:31:16,700
of the valley has addict and
Antiquated a water pipes, like

1803
01:31:16,700 --> 01:31:18,700
clay pipes, and they don't
stretch them out until they

1804
01:31:18,700 --> 01:31:22,500
break, okay?
So what happens is when they

1805
01:31:22,500 --> 01:31:25,900
break, they replace them but a
lot of the water, mains, the the

1806
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:29,300
water mains, go across the fault
lines.

1807
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,200
Those are going to break.
How do you fix 70,000 pipe?

1808
01:31:32,300 --> 01:31:34,300
It's in one week.
You can't you can't.

1809
01:31:34,300 --> 01:31:38,800
And the state is preparing for
several of the city's in Salt

1810
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,100
Lake to be without water for 12
months.

1811
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,300
Sure.
But how do you bring, how do you

1812
01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:48,100
bring enough water in tank
tankers, when the roads are

1813
01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:51,000
damaged, when there's a million
people needing water every day.

1814
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,600
How do you do it?
You know, and the thing about it

1815
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,500
is is difficult, you can't, you
gotta choose your battles and

1816
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:58,300
in.
So I teach people, here's how

1817
01:31:58,300 --> 01:32:01,100
you do water, the right way to
be able to prepare for that.

1818
01:32:01,100 --> 01:32:03,500
And there's a really easy way to
It doesn't have to be hard but

1819
01:32:03,500 --> 01:32:07,700
you can you can handle years of
not having running water from

1820
01:32:07,700 --> 01:32:09,100
the city.
If you know what to do, if you

1821
01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:12,200
know, the right things to do.
Now, that's a risk assessment.

1822
01:32:12,300 --> 01:32:14,600
If you know your risks, if you
know, you can be without water

1823
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,500
for 12 months, your preparation
is going to be different if you

1824
01:32:17,500 --> 01:32:19,500
didn't know what.
If you didn't know that.

1825
01:32:19,500 --> 01:32:22,000
You'd be different than if you
didn't know that, right?

1826
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:24,600
So a proper risk, assessment is
the first step to preparedness.

1827
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,000
The second step is setting the
emergency preparedness because

1828
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,200
once, you know your risks, you
got to understand there's

1829
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,200
long-term emergencies their
short-term emergency.

1830
01:32:32,300 --> 01:32:34,600
Vertices.
So sudden emergency preparedness

1831
01:32:34,700 --> 01:32:39,800
has to do with your 72 or 96 or
120 our kit right?

1832
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,700
Where you put it on your back
and you head out.

1833
01:32:41,700 --> 01:32:43,800
But most people don't, most
people think that if they got

1834
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:45,900
their emergency grab-and-go kit,
they're totally ready for

1835
01:32:45,900 --> 01:32:48,400
emergencies.
The dumb thing is most people

1836
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:52,400
haven't looked at the majority
of the of the emergencies in the

1837
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,400
world.
Nobody leaves their home, right?

1838
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:59,600
You very very rarely used that
72-hour kid, 96, our kid.

1839
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,700
You rarely very rarely use it.
So it's a good thing to have.

1840
01:33:03,700 --> 01:33:06,000
You should have your car kit,
like I do you still have your

1841
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,000
72-hour kit like I do, you
should have your fire kits, you

1842
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:10,400
know.
And if you're on second-story

1843
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,100
your you should have your
ladders.

1844
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:13,200
You should have everything to
get out.

1845
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,900
I'm a fire fire fighter.
I understand how dangerous it

1846
01:33:15,900 --> 01:33:17,700
can be.
Okay, you should have your fire

1847
01:33:17,700 --> 01:33:19,100
kit.
Okay, that's not bad.

1848
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:22,300
You should have all that stuff
but that's just the beginning of

1849
01:33:22,300 --> 01:33:24,200
preparedness.
But sudden emergency

1850
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,600
preparedness not only has to do
with your grab-and-go kid, but

1851
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,100
it has to do with emergency
plans.

1852
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,200
Like what do you do if there's a
7.0 earthquake at 2:00 in the

1853
01:33:31,208 --> 01:33:34,400
morning in the middle of winter?
ER, at 7 degrees outside.

1854
01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:35,700
What do you do?
How do you do that?

1855
01:33:35,700 --> 01:33:37,700
How do you handle it with your
little kids and everything else?

1856
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:39,800
What do you do?
So that's your plans.

1857
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,100
And and luckily I teach what to
do you for the most part in my

1858
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:47,800
courses and then I have people
create their own plans, right?

1859
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,000
And then you gotta practice
those plans at least once,

1860
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,800
right?
You got it.

1861
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,200
You got it, take your plans, get
your family together.

1862
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:58,500
And say, if there were 7.0
earthquake, Let's Pretend at

1863
01:33:58,700 --> 01:34:00,500
2:00 in the morning and
everybody get in bed and go to

1864
01:34:00,500 --> 01:34:02,100
sleep.
And then I'm going to shake the

1865
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,400
What do you do?
You know and then they all

1866
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,300
practice.
They end up curling curling in a

1867
01:34:07,300 --> 01:34:09,800
ball on their beds with a pillow
over their head until the

1868
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,400
shaking stops enough that they
can get to a place of safety,

1869
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,900
right?
And so they learn what to do

1870
01:34:14,900 --> 01:34:16,800
because they practice it.
Well, you need to do that for

1871
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,600
three to five minutes or
emergencies that are sudden,

1872
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,900
emergencies not long-term like
an EP or anything but sudden

1873
01:34:22,900 --> 01:34:25,400
emergencies, okay.
And you got to be ready for

1874
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,500
sudden emergencies.
If you need to get out, stay

1875
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:30,300
there, whatever it is.
That's not number two, number

1876
01:34:30,300 --> 01:34:32,100
three is water.
Okay?

1877
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,700
Now water is super portable
important, and you could put

1878
01:34:34,700 --> 01:34:36,900
down water preparedness.
That's a better way to put

1879
01:34:36,900 --> 01:34:37,800
number three.
What?

1880
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,600
A lot of people don't understand
the rules of three, right?

1881
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,900
You can live three seconds, you
can die in 3 seconds without

1882
01:34:44,900 --> 01:34:45,600
hope.
Right.

1883
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,300
You can shoot yourself or
whatever else you can, die three

1884
01:34:48,300 --> 01:34:52,800
seconds without error.
You can go 33 minutes without

1885
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:57,600
without sorry 3 minutes 3
seconds without hope three

1886
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,300
minutes without air three hours
without heat.

1887
01:35:00,500 --> 01:35:04,300
Okay, three days.
Without Water, three weeks

1888
01:35:04,300 --> 01:35:07,500
without food and 33 months
without human interaction,

1889
01:35:07,700 --> 01:35:08,700
right?
You can go crazy.

1890
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:14,000
So so those were rules of three,
that three days without water is

1891
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,000
more important than three weeks
without food.

1892
01:35:16,300 --> 01:35:19,400
So I teach all about water and
then I get to food and food is

1893
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,000
probably the biggest part of my
courses is food because there's

1894
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,200
so much to food.
They're short term food storage,

1895
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,800
long-term food storage growing
food, or replacing your food,

1896
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:31,100
preserving your food, all these
different things that have to do

1897
01:35:31,100 --> 01:35:32,500
with food.
And so that's just As a whole

1898
01:35:32,500 --> 01:35:34,700
huge section and that's prep
step number four.

1899
01:35:34,700 --> 01:35:38,500
Because seven step, the fourth
step is number is food

1900
01:35:38,500 --> 01:35:42,000
preparedness.
Then you get to the fifth step,

1901
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,400
which is meet your other needs
now, people say, well, you can't

1902
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:51,100
put that all in one step and,
you know, heating sanitation,

1903
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,900
communication, all these
different things are all in one

1904
01:35:53,900 --> 01:35:55,900
step.
They said, you can't put that in

1905
01:35:55,900 --> 01:35:59,300
one step because all of those
are, you know, could be the

1906
01:35:59,300 --> 01:36:01,100
difference between life and
death.

1907
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:04,400
And I said yeah, listen.
My words just said meet your

1908
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:08,800
other needs, okay?
You need these things or else

1909
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,200
you could die, if you didn't
have them, but they all go in

1910
01:36:11,208 --> 01:36:13,000
one step.
And the reason they go in one

1911
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,200
step is because they're there is
a psyche that comes with food

1912
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:17,900
and water.
That doesn't come with the other

1913
01:36:17,900 --> 01:36:21,900
ones I could, I could Jimmy
rigged almost everything in the

1914
01:36:21,900 --> 01:36:24,500
other needs shelter, you know,
sanitation.

1915
01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:26,100
All this stuff.
I can Jimmy rigged if I needed

1916
01:36:26,100 --> 01:36:29,500
to, okay, but I can Jimmy rig
food and water.

1917
01:36:29,500 --> 01:36:35,000
Sure, yeah, in those are needed.
So, So, so in emergency food and

1918
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:38,900
water is your, is your comfort.
And that's that's where you

1919
01:36:38,900 --> 01:36:41,100
panic.
If you don't have it, the other

1920
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:43,600
stuff you have time to figure
out, but food and water.

1921
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,000
If you don't have it you panic
and maybe toilet paper after

1922
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:49,300
2020, I would add toilet paper
to that but that list and I'm

1923
01:36:49,300 --> 01:36:52,000
totally kidding.
But well, that's funny.

1924
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,200
You should bring that up because
I have, I have a friend who is a

1925
01:36:55,208 --> 01:36:57,100
psychologist and I asked him
about this.

1926
01:36:57,100 --> 01:37:01,600
I was like Toilet paper, explain
the run on toilet paper.

1927
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:06,200
He said, he said, well, he said,
I looked at this and there's two

1928
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,600
things.
One is is like using toilet

1929
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,100
paper, that's one of those
things.

1930
01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:12,500
You're like, okay, that
separates us from the Savages,

1931
01:37:12,500 --> 01:37:16,000
right from the animals.
The other thing is, is that

1932
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:20,100
because toilet paper takes up a
huge spice space on a shelf,

1933
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,600
right?
It doesn't take long for that to

1934
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,900
go Bear, right?
Because really, there's only

1935
01:37:25,900 --> 01:37:30,500
like seven packages on a shelf.
So, Because people were buying

1936
01:37:30,500 --> 01:37:32,900
it and the Shelf was empty even
though there were some in the

1937
01:37:32,907 --> 01:37:39,300
back, it was creating this
perceived scarcity issue and so

1938
01:37:39,300 --> 01:37:43,700
people just saw the bear shelf,
it was like there's no more and

1939
01:37:43,700 --> 01:37:46,100
so then they went in the back
and they got all that and they

1940
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:48,800
thought I better buy a, you
know, six of them now because

1941
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:52,400
there's a scarcity on the Shelf.
So yeah, yeah, the whole

1942
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,100
mentality.
If everybody started grabbing

1943
01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:56,800
grabbing Tomatoes everybody else
would grab tomatoes.

1944
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,800
Because they're like why is
everybody grabbing tomatoes?

1945
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:01,800
Yep, somebody started staring up
in the sky and pointing

1946
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,600
everybody would stop and start
staring up in the sky, you know,

1947
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,000
that's like people follow
people, right?

1948
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,000
They don't they don't have the
logic sometimes but again, going

1949
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:11,600
back to the preparedness side of
this.

1950
01:38:11,900 --> 01:38:13,600
Why not get it ahead of time,
right?

1951
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:15,600
Why don't buy white?
Why not buy for a dollar today

1952
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,500
than $10 tomorrow?
Yep right.

1953
01:38:17,500 --> 01:38:20,000
Why don't you get a cheap while
it's cheap and just store it up?

1954
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,100
Toilet paper isn't gonna go bad.
Yeah so why don't you just get a

1955
01:38:23,108 --> 01:38:24,600
bunch of it, right?
Yep.

1956
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,600
So let's now meet your other
needs to step.

1957
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,900
Number five, meet your other
needs again.

1958
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,600
Our needs.
You need them, but it's a whole

1959
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,900
different psyche, then food and
water.

1960
01:38:33,900 --> 01:38:37,400
Which those are the most
important things for emergency

1961
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,900
preparedness, food and water, or
the most important thing for

1962
01:38:39,900 --> 01:38:41,700
long-term.
Emergency period.

1963
01:38:41,900 --> 01:38:43,800
Does that make sense?
Yep, absolutely does.

1964
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,000
Now we're going to get to is
prep step number six or number

1965
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,200
six preparedness step that is
when the nobody really talks

1966
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:50,600
about in their preparedness
course.

1967
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,100
There's very few people talk
about it.

1968
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:56,800
And so number six is maintaining
your standard of living That's

1969
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:58,800
where I talk about silver.
That's why I talk about buying

1970
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,100
extra supplies.
That's where I talk about, you

1971
01:39:01,100 --> 01:39:04,800
know, rainy day funds or talk
about trading because in all

1972
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,900
reality, in fact, I'll give you
a little insight.

1973
01:39:08,100 --> 01:39:10,200
People say well, how would what
would I trade during an

1974
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,000
emergency and it's really
simple.

1975
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,400
What do you, what do you need to
survive during an emergency?

1976
01:39:14,700 --> 01:39:19,200
All the stuff I teach in preps
steps number 1 through 6, right?

1977
01:39:19,300 --> 01:39:22,000
All the stuff I talked to talk
about that that you should store

1978
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,000
up are the same things that
other people are going to need

1979
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,700
during an emergency.
So if you need it, they need it.

1980
01:39:27,700 --> 01:39:31,300
So if you buy extra, if you buy
extra great and guess what, you

1981
01:39:31,300 --> 01:39:33,500
can trade it during an emergency
because other people are going

1982
01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:36,200
to need it.
Also, it's not complicated to

1983
01:39:36,208 --> 01:39:39,000
figure out what you should store
up to trade.

1984
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,000
So it's really easy.
Now that's number six and I

1985
01:39:42,008 --> 01:39:45,600
going to hold how to maintain
your standard of living because

1986
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it doesn't make sense to have a
whole you know, room full of

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01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,400
supplies and everything else but
then you get kicked out of your

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01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,800
house and you're on the street
and where do you put your stuff

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right you know you got to know
how to protect your standard of

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01:39:55,400 --> 01:40:02,500
living And so the last thing is
is number seven, preparation set

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01:40:02,500 --> 01:40:03,700
of number.
Seven is helping others.

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Prepare, if, if you don't help
others prepare, you're in

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trouble and you're only as
prepared as your neighbors are,

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if your house is the only one on
the street that has the lights

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01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,700
on.
If your house is the only one on

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01:40:16,700 --> 01:40:18,800
the street where your kids are
fat and happy and laughing and

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01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:21,200
playing and everybody else is
suffering and dying.

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Okay, if your house is the only
one with food on the table,

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okay?
It's not going to be long before

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01:40:27,900 --> 01:40:30,400
people start saying it's not
fair, you have food in my kids

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01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,500
are dying, right?
People.

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01:40:32,500 --> 01:40:33,700
Go crazy.
Yeah.

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You know who's going to go
crazy, you might think, you

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01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:38,100
know, your neighbor, you might
think they're two commas

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01:40:38,100 --> 01:40:41,300
kindest, most charitable person
in the world, but you haven't

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01:40:41,300 --> 01:40:44,200
seen them under pressure yet.
You haven't seen them in a place

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01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,000
where they're desperate and
where they have to choose

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01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,800
between your kids or their
character, or their kids, right?

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01:40:50,900 --> 01:40:53,600
And see, here's the sad thing.
We see, we saw it.

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01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:57,600
We, it's not like we haven't had
and warning shots across the bow

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01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,800
on this.
Yeah, that guy I was telling you

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01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,500
about with Katrina, he said, it
took three meals.

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And that's the average American
family.

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Yep.
Any family is about three meals

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01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,900
away from being without food.
Yeah.

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01:41:11,900 --> 01:41:18,700
And this is his words, not mine.
In three days, you saw the

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01:41:18,700 --> 01:41:25,000
veneer of civilization ripped
away from an entire Metroplex in

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01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:29,500
New Orleans, three days.
Three months. 72 hours away from

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01:41:29,500 --> 01:41:30,800
a riot.
Yep.

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01:41:30,900 --> 01:41:32,800
Yep.
It doesn't take long.

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01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:38,100
The average American family is
not prepared to take some abuse

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01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:42,500
as far as an emergency.
We're just not You're absolutely

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01:41:42,500 --> 01:41:44,100
right.
That's the seven steps.

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01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:47,600
I mean I can go on literally for
hours like we did but um no

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01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,600
you're good.
I had no clue about two hours

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01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,100
already.
That's that's amazing to me.

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01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:53,500
Yeah I go.
It goes quick.

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01:41:53,700 --> 01:41:56,000
You.
Let's let's do this before.

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01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,900
We wrap up tell me about the
challenge coming up.

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01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:03,400
Tell my listeners where they can
go to, to find that challenge.

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01:42:03,500 --> 01:42:07,400
And also, I will post the link.
When I release this podcast on

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01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,900
me, I'll get you a link.
It's a five-day preparedness

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01:42:09,900 --> 01:42:11,400
challenge.
I'll get you a link so you can

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01:42:11,500 --> 01:42:14,500
Put it on there.
You know, it's a preparedness

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01:42:14,500 --> 01:42:17,900
challenge.com, but I'm going to
get you a link so you can have

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01:42:17,900 --> 01:42:20,900
it.
So just click on the link

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01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,100
wherever you post it, and
that'll go right to the right

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01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:25,500
page.
We're still finishing up the

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01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:27,500
programming of it.
We should be done, probably

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01:42:27,500 --> 01:42:30,300
hopefully this next week, so
I'll get you that and it should

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01:42:30,300 --> 01:42:32,500
work just perfectly fine if
there's any problems, it's right

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01:42:32,500 --> 01:42:34,700
for me and let me know, but it
should be working perfectly

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01:42:34,700 --> 01:42:36,500
fine.
I'm going to be teaching for

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01:42:36,500 --> 01:42:38,600
five days.
I'm going to teach people how to

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01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,200
do the 7 steps of preparedness.
I gave you a little taste of it,

2046
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,500
but To go more in depth on each
one.

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01:42:43,700 --> 01:42:45,400
So people understand a ton of
stuff.

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01:42:45,500 --> 01:42:47,600
My goal is to help 10,000
families, get prepared.

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01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:51,400
That's my big goal right now.
This has become a mission of

2050
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:52,600
mine.
Remember I told you, I'm not

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01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,600
Money Motivated, right?
Is something for me.

2052
01:42:55,600 --> 01:43:00,000
I really can care less, but I
love helping people and I love

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01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,200
projects.
And so right now, we've been

2054
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,600
gearing up in my warehouse, on
my buy, new equipment, to be

2055
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,500
able to do millions of cans of
food and you want cans of food,

2056
01:43:07,500 --> 01:43:08,600
right?
And by the way, you don't want

2057
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,000
mylar pouches and all that stuff
won't cans of food.

2058
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,500
That's been Best way to go.
And so we spend the money for

2059
01:43:13,500 --> 01:43:15,300
cans because that's right way to
do it.

2060
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,900
And so we're gearing up on with
millions of dollars worth of

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01:43:17,900 --> 01:43:21,000
food to be able to prepare for
this challenge right now, in the

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01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,000
goal, is to be able to help a
ton of families. 10,000

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01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,000
families, get prepared within 90
days each, okay.

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01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,700
And so that starts with this,
with this five day challenge,

2065
01:43:29,700 --> 01:43:31,900
where I teach them what to do,
okay?

2066
01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:34,100
And then I tell them what
products to get, then I give

2067
01:43:34,100 --> 01:43:36,800
them discounts on the products
so they can save money.

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01:43:36,900 --> 01:43:38,500
I do all the stuff to be able to
help the families.

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01:43:38,500 --> 01:43:41,200
Get preparedness.
My goal is in the next year to

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01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,400
be able Look back and know that
I helped help, 10,000 families,

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01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,100
get prepared.
And hopefully, those 10,000

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01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:49,300
families.
Even if I see Zero money from

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01:43:49,300 --> 01:43:52,500
it, help another 10,000 help,
another 10,000 help, another

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01:43:52,500 --> 01:43:54,500
10,000.
And hopefully, there's a ripple

2075
01:43:54,500 --> 01:43:57,200
effect that that touches
millions and millions of people

2076
01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:59,800
to help them prepare for
emergencies.

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01:44:00,500 --> 01:44:02,200
All right.
Well, but that that's it, I'll

2078
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:03,600
give you.
I'll give you some information.

2079
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,900
My goal is to literally
literally helped out a ton of

2080
01:44:05,900 --> 01:44:08,400
people.
I've got a bunch of my team is

2081
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:11,100
gearing up for this to be able
to answer questions help people.

2082
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,600
That's our goal.
We feel like some really,

2083
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,300
really, really tough times.
You're going to be coming and

2084
01:44:17,300 --> 01:44:20,900
and my mission, my personal
mission, my full-time personal

2085
01:44:20,900 --> 01:44:24,800
mission is to help as many good
families as I can, to prepare

2086
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:28,000
for the tough times that are
coming and for the return of

2087
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,300
Jesus Christ.
Which again, it's the great and

2088
01:44:30,300 --> 01:44:32,500
terrible, right?
The good and the bad right?

2089
01:44:32,500 --> 01:44:35,100
When we got her for both.
And and that's physically

2090
01:44:35,100 --> 01:44:37,800
spiritually in always, right?
Let's be part of the five

2091
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:41,100
virgins, not the other five
right now, absolutely, I've ever

2092
01:44:41,100 --> 01:44:44,200
read.
And just one little more point.

2093
01:44:44,300 --> 01:44:47,500
I was reading through adjustment
Matthew just recently, and it's

2094
01:44:47,500 --> 01:44:50,100
interesting, it talks about the
good serving, the evil servant

2095
01:44:50,300 --> 01:44:52,700
the difference between the two
is a good servant prepared

2096
01:44:52,700 --> 01:44:54,300
people surveyed.
Yep.

2097
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,300
And so whether that's
spiritually, physically,

2098
01:44:56,300 --> 01:44:57,800
whatever it is.
Let's be part of the five.

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01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,300
Absolutely.
So before we go, I just want to

2100
01:45:01,300 --> 01:45:03,500
recap here.
So people know where to go and

2101
01:45:03,500 --> 01:45:07,800
what to do, go to Mormon
Renegade.com, or if you listen

2102
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:11,300
on anchor or whatever it is,
you're listening on, go to the

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01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,900
sewed.
Number 42, let's get prepared

2104
01:45:13,900 --> 01:45:17,300
with Marcelo sir, jobless at the
bottom of the description of

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01:45:17,300 --> 01:45:20,800
this podcast is a link, click on
that link, and that will take

2106
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:24,400
you to the sign up page for the
5-day preparedness course, for

2107
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,500
17 dollars, you get all five
days with Marcelo where he

2108
01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:31,100
breaks down these principles of
being prepared.

2109
01:45:31,500 --> 01:45:34,100
Now, you can also sign up for a
different option, which is

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01:45:34,100 --> 01:45:37,300
forty, seven dollars, which
gives you the ability to receive

2111
01:45:37,300 --> 01:45:40,300
the audio and visual recording
of the five-day preparedness

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01:45:40,300 --> 01:45:43,100
course.
And Also an extra Q&A session

2113
01:45:43,100 --> 01:45:45,500
with Marcela.
So you can pick the brain of an

2114
01:45:45,500 --> 01:45:48,400
expert Marcelo.
You're a rock star.

2115
01:45:48,900 --> 01:45:54,600
I so enjoyed having you on them.
I'd love to have you back on

2116
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,900
again and I tell all my guests.
If you've been on, once you got

2117
01:45:57,900 --> 01:46:01,100
a standing invitation to come
back on, anytime you want you

2118
01:46:01,108 --> 01:46:06,500
just need to let me know and
we'll make the time but I yeah,

2119
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:11,300
absolutely folks.
Something is coming, I can't

2120
01:46:11,300 --> 01:46:14,600
tell you exactly what it is when
it's going to get here.

2121
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,500
But something's coming spend the
time.

2122
01:46:17,500 --> 01:46:21,500
Now to prepare what Christmas is
right around the corner and I

2123
01:46:21,500 --> 01:46:25,300
have adult children and I don't
get them crap any longer, right?

2124
01:46:25,300 --> 01:46:27,400
It's I give them food storage
stuff.

2125
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:31,800
I give them things that, that
can last the thing, Marcello's

2126
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:36,600
talking about with these courses
and preparing, that is perfect.

2127
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,400
Get your loved one.
Something that can sustain them

2128
01:46:42,700 --> 01:46:44,500
Marcelo.
I can't tell you how much I

2129
01:46:44,508 --> 01:46:48,200
appreciate you being here.
Let's do this again sooner than

2130
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,000
later.
That'd be awesome.

2131
01:46:50,500 --> 01:46:52,300
Awesome, Let's help more
families.

2132
01:46:52,300 --> 01:46:54,500
Let's do that.
Absolutely, let's do that.

2133
01:46:54,700 --> 01:46:56,000
Alright, bye everybody.