Episode #48: Utah's Coming Political Abomination & The Playbook for The Rest of The Nation W/Chelcie Hope

0:02 Have you ever wondered how a people who've been raised with freedom managed to lose those freedoms? See if corrupt politicians were just come along and suddenly take those freedoms. I think we'd all throw a party with pitchforks and torches know how a people lose their freedom is by willfully. Giving them up tyrants have long had the sick fascination with wanting those they subjugate to beg them for the Tyranny. Those tyrants offer today on the podcast I have on Chelsea hope Chelsey is a woman who has watched and spoken out against government's. Never ending march towards complete control. She has recently been paying real close attention to what happens more locally here within the state of Utah. What you will find in listening to me in Chelsea's conversation.

0:43 Is that Utah in particular, is in the crosshairs of the global Elites, the reason for this is because of Utah strategic location as well as its spiritual significance. If these Global Elites can do this in Utah than they can do it anywhere. So pay very close attention, even if you don't live in Utah because the political Mechanisms are the same state to state the mechanism. Those Elites are using is to buy and use local politicians to do their bidding. I'm sure you The Listener will come to the same conclusion. I did about Chelsea that she is super well-informed, and wicked smart. We cover on this episode. What bills are being passed right now. In Utah, that threaten your freedoms, the most who is behind those bills and finally, what you can do, to help put the brakes on this political Abomination. Heading our way.

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3:46 And that comes across very clearly because It's not scripted. It's not rehearsed and you just know it just like that off the top of your head. That's also usually a sign of being passionate about something. So what, how long have you been doing this? And what got you into it? Oh man, I think a lot of us woke up. I mean really, I did back on 9/11. There was a lot that came out in 2020 with, you know, covid not that. So we've know that there's stuff on a federal level Lots of corruption and deep State got stuff going on there. And really, it wasn't until last year about a year ago when I don't know.

4:29 If you saw the video with my crown that went viral that he got arrested at our state capitol. When they were speaking out against, I believe he was speaking out against the vaccine, passports are trying to pass. Here are also trying to pass the digital ID here. Don't know if many people know about that, we got it blocked but they brought it back this year so we're going to continue to fight it but he Was speaking up against it and Dan McKay one of our legislators didn't really want to hear what he had to say. And so he had Mike thrown out Highway Patrol, arrested him and he was arrested and dragged out to the DIA, basement of the Capitol. They would not let him see his attorneys, he had a panic attack and that the video that went viral.

5:10 And when, when they were asking the officers, why he was being arrested, they didn't have a good answer, they said it was because he was wearing a, We, the People shirt. And when I saw that, Then you will go viral. I, I I'm like there's no way that this level of corruption is happening in Utah, right? Not not in our state. And so I decided to start showing up to the Capitol and it became very clear very quickly that there are some not good things going on in Utah. So probably since about February I'd really been digging in and studying Utah, strategic plans and bills and kind of how that correlates with the rest of everything. We've kind of been talking about and how they are shown that in. So did you You I'm guessing you've studied this stuff for a while though.

5:53 Right with this is quick as you know it. Yeah, the world economic forum and their agenda and United Nations. Yeah, that I've been looking at that a lot longer really just specifically to Utah was about a year ago. Last February when I started Digging into what they were doing and noticing that. They're just basically copying Verbatim. What their white World economic Forum, white papers are in the Utah. But yeah, they I've been studying them for quite a while. Okay. Well that's impressive that you've got that much handled since just last February. That's nuts. That's not. I remember when I kind of had my wake-up call and and I've told the story before so I'll make it brief. But I went to Philadelphia for all things of Ball game. I'm a huge Packers Fan in me and my had a buddy who's an Eagles fan.

6:43 And we're like, you know, they played this great playoff game and I'm like, let's see if they play next year. And sure enough, they played on a Monday night in Philly and I'm like, let's just go, let's just go. See and so we went and I remember I went to Independence Hall and well, I always always been into history, but not so much American history, but I remember I walked into Independence Hall and it was the same feeling I got whenever I visited a holy site. Right, Temple Square, Martin's covid, anything like that and I thought, okay, something big happened here and so that got me studying the founding and I mean, when I say studying, I mean, I do headfirst in, I mean, like reading Madison's notes, kind of studying and realize we were way off course. And then saw the power, grab post 9/11 and like I tell my kids like Was a time when you could be at the airport an hour, before your flight and you probably had time to spare, right?

7:45 You didn't have to get patted down, you didn't have to do all those things. And so I've slowly seen this happening and in the last I want to say, probably six to seven years. I think we've seen an acceleration. Yeah. And, and the speed at which to happening. I was just breathtaking. It is it? They're accelerating. Dating very quickly. In fact, there's a lot of aspects to agenda 2030 that, that now they've moved up in their their documents and paperwork to 2025. Honestly, I think part of that is they were not expecting the people years. Yeah. Yeah.

8:26 It is. Yeah, they're accelerating and either, we saw things like that, with the Patriot Act, Right? Where it was or a protection. It's always for your convenience or protection package in this nice little bow. And then we saw how Really took our rights away and we were seeing that with the bills here in Utah as well. And they are. They're trying to shove these through faster and faster hair as well. Right? Where did you get your love of the Constitution, right? Because it's one thing to know it. It's another thing to feel it. I think, you know, once you experience that and for each of us, it's different, you know, stages in our lives, different times. But when you start to really wake up to It's going around you and you start to experience and fill it and and live it and start to see these rights eroding away from you writes that you've always had that.

9:19 Now all of a sudden are being threatened or that aren't there. It it hits you really hard that these founding documents were inspired by God, they were divine documents and they knew what they were doing. They knew what they were talking about and they were put there for a reason and watching that being eroded away and hanging by a thread is its it's terrifying for me. The future that will leave to our kids and grandkids, if we don't step up and fight right now for that, yeah, I I got married. When I was young, I got married when I was 18. So, even though I'm only 45, I got three grandkids and I remember when, when I kind of woke up to what was going on, I thought, I don't want to have the conversation with my kids.

10:04 About, you know, this is how it used to be, and then then them have to ask me. Well, what did you do, right? Why did you let that happen? And so for me, that was, that was the Catalyst, right? Is what am I leaving to my kids and grandkids? And because lately, I've been feeling more and more that we're The Gatekeepers to those rights for our kids, right? They're not all rights their gods rights. That have been given to man but But we're the ones that are supposed to safeguard it for the next generation, and if we fall asleep on that on that watch, I firmly believe God's. Going to ask the question, what, what did you do with it? Because the argument and the real battle hasn't changed since the very beginning, right?

10:54 I mean, for, you know, my audience is predominantly, Mormon, you know, we have this theology that teaches that there were two plans, Right? One was a plan that said you know what, not all of you are going to make it to that highest point but some of you are and it's really kind of up to you, right? I'm going to provide a savior that that's going to help you get there but you have to get there. The other was I'll make sure they all get backed, right? There's not going to be any freedom and it's the same argument we're having now the argument hasn't changed yet exactly and it's that free agency and it's funny because you You saw that a lot when the vaccines rolled out and it was well, you know, isn't the prophet said to do it is isn't the prophet isn't his word?

11:43 Good enough for you and my response has been well you know don't you know better than profit my responses will do you know better than God because God himself said this is about free agency. It was the devil's plan to force people to do things and I think that we've slowly started to lose sight of that concept. I think that things are scary right now. And overwhelming, I mean, we see especially on a federal and Global level, but as we also start to see things kind of come into our state, it's really easy to want to turn to the prophet and mimic everything that he does. But we forget that these are also imperfect men and it's scary to me that people have lost that sense of self Revelation and turning to scripture and prayer and having that relationship with God to really tune in to those principles.

12:34 Is that he's taught us, right? Absolutely, absolutely. And yeah to make the statement it's safe and effective that's not that at least one of those statements isn't correct. Right. We know it wasn't effective. We know that it was leaky. We know that it didn't prevent transmission and that it didn't really do the job of a vaccine. I mean, the best case you can make is I think it was a therapeutic. Like maybe right, maybe right. If if you're going to take them at their word, that's what you got to come up with is it was a therapeutic. So you hit on something that I think super important that.

13:15 I think a lot of people don't do, which is focused locally and that's the other thing that really, really want, you know, what was a main driver of why I wanted to talk to you because so so often we look at the problem and we look towards Washington. Hm. And how to year ago? I got to a point where I was like, there's no answers here. Washington has lost. Its it's gone. We now have to fall back and hold the line in our individual states at our local level. Because that's the only place where we're going to have peaceful resistance from is from the state and local level. What what was it that got you into? To State and local politics.

14:04 And they can't even say these are politics, right? I feel like, politics isn't even a good word now, you know, preserving freedom on the local level, how's that? Yeah. We were quickly approaching communism here. Yeah, it was so after I saw Mike Brown has video go viral. I decided to show up and start getting involved and I started paying attention and just listening to the presentations that were being made. And We really do, it's not just on a federal level, we have ngos, you know, nonprofits and lobbyists who are writing these bills for our legislators here and they're passing bills written by these Lettin you know lobbyists who are connected to United Nations and World economic Forum corporations and these you know, Rockefeller all these Soros they come from these corporations and part of what their agenda is to Lobby to State and even down to local cities and counties.

15:01 And you'll see, for instance, Envision Utah, they've been around for a while. One of the founders was Mike Leavitt who is funded by George Soros, the open Society foundation and Cox is partnered with that on everything health education, our infrastructure, our energy, and everything, and they go down through to the local cities. Even, I mean they've been to or mm. I've watched them at Utah County and they're presenting to implement all of this infrastructure and you know, the the transgender and the critical race Theory and all the stuff that Are seeing in our schools. It's these kinds of ngos and groups that are coming in and presenting to our cities and counties, and to our state. And the people having I'm noticing that people aren't there to have our voice to not consent. So, they're just, they're doing it. But it was really, when I started listening to these groups present and hearing the awful things that they had to say.

15:53 And I'm going home and researching who they were and who they were connected to and realizing very quickly, that we have a huge Web here of elitist and issues in our state. So that inspired me to start reading bills, which is not the funnest thing in the world. But I wanted to see what kind of bills they passed last year and what they were starting to do this year and I just started reading through those. And as I read those, I just reaffirmed to me that we're not in a very good situation right now, so that that's just inspired me to keep going and try to fight this hard because if we don't stand up, Now this is the future of our kids it'll be lost forever. So do you work with an organization or a group? Or is it just you it I just represent myself. I do work alongside other coalition's. Utah.

16:43 Freedom Coalition is amazing defending. Utah is awesome. We are the people. I think you've seen me on with Jason a couple times. It's been really, really awesome. I know in the past that there's been some some Egos and contention involved with with other groups and so to see These groups really come together and it not be about any one person, but to really be about our state and your kids, and your grandkids, these people are fighting for, it's been beautiful to watch them come together, so I do work alongside them and we do a lot of research and collaboration together now that's awesome. So you've been up at the Capitol? Yeah.

17:24 What are some of the bills that have you the most concerned? The ones that have passed are the ones that they're going to pass or both any and all of them. Okay, there is a government immunity act that they passed in May of 2021, which basically gives the government, any government official or state employee. That works for the state for a government entity, unwavering immunity and in the bill, And if I have that bill next to me, there's a there's a lot of very specific things that get quotes in there that they have immunity to including violation of civil rights. Malicious prosecution, mental, anguish, battery assault. But all of the, I mean, the list goes on and on of things that they have unwavering, I mean, I do too. And I actually just listen to a bill being presented on the floor, two days ago and I gave public comment and they're just kind of railroading over us right now. They're not really wanting to Listen to the people much these days, it's pretty obvious, but they actually one of the legislators on the panel brought up specifically in this bill, this States, the, that it references, the government immunity act, would they have immunity? And he says, yes.

18:38 And he says and you'd also have immunity to negligence as well. Is that correct these groups and the the person presenting says? Yes. And they all proceeded to vote unanimously. Unanimously in favor for it and sent it to the Senate. Anyway, Our bills and place right now that our Department of Agriculture, in our state can come inspect and regulate your Farms, your Gardens, your greenhouses, your Apiaries, the bees, any of our basically, our livestock or animals for if they suspect that there is contagions between livestock plants, noxious weeds insects or even bees now. You guys this with the world economic Forum, we're seeing that they want us dependent on the government for agriculture. And you've got Bill Gates coming in and buying up, all this farmland and they want us dependent on them for food. And one of the things they've done is and we're seeing it in Utah.

19:39 They brought in Community Gardens where they get the community to come help plant Gardens, and we're supposed to share these spaces. But the last step, the world economic Forum talks about the last step to these Burdens being the contract and the contracts are basically going to State. Look. You're going to obey the rules of the garden and you're going to behave or you're going to get Get out of the garden and Leisure key, and they're going to do that through implementing ESG and we can talk about that in a minute if you want. But basically, you're not socially behaving, you're not calling people by their pronouns, or you're not, you don't work for a company that's environmentally friendly, or you talk to someone because they're conservative, your score goes down your USGS, for goes down, and they'll start picking out of the gardens and not allowing you to travel and all sorts of other things, but they want us to pin it on them for food. And they are, they are slowly, but surely taking out our Farmers.

20:34 We've seen the Dutch Farmers, their government come for them. We've seen with the gas and the fertilizer and all all sorts of other things are shutting our farmers down. We're starting to see stuff with water here, now as well. But they're shutting our farmers down and I'm telling you right now, this being able to inspect for knocks, you know, for diseases and communicable diseases, it isn't about safety. And safe plant, guys. It's about control. Yeah, so that's one of the ones that really has me concerned. There's not the stuff going on with the water. If you want to get into the water. We can do that too. I know there's a little. Yeah, I want I want to get into that but first, I want to back up for a second. Yeah.

21:17 So this immunity act. So basically if a state worker was to assault you while discharging his duties he is he can't be prosecuted for that. Is that correct? All right, I actually spoke with Rick Cantrell. Be a chief of staff of our attorney general's office, Chandra is to. There's a lot of stuff going on with Shaun two guys, but I went to him and I asked him, I said, I said, I need you to give a presentation with me to legislation. This is unconstitutional. I need you to do your duty as the Attorney General's office, and help me get this truck from code. This is not okay, but people don't have immunity, the government should not have immunity and he looked me in the eye, and he told me that he won't do that because his job is not to represent the people, but to represent those, we've elected to represent the state public officials.

22:13 And so if we were to sew and I Even said, I'm like a so, hypothetically, a government official assaults me or he or a judge maliciously, prosecutes. Me. And I want to hold them responsible, and I come to you for help. You're going to represent them and he said that's correct there. You girl, a friend of mine who went to him. We went in together and she was telling him, you know, we I've talked to her just Owens there is there's a big problem with DFS Child, Protective Services, our kids being taken by them kidnapped from the state. I think people are starting to see that more and more her daughter was taken from her.

22:55 And she has evidence that the judge and the attorney polluted. She has evidence that the Guy that they gave her to is a pimp and that her pediatrician gave her documentation showing she's showing signs of sexual abuse under this post. She can't get her daughter back and she's gone through all the courts and judges here in the state she's written every congressman and she went to him. We were in his office together and said who holds the judges accountable and they bald all gone corrupt. What can you do? Who will help? And he basically told her. I'm sorry that I'm so sorry that's happening to you but I won't help. We won't help you. Our job is to represent them so and he told me that he does not want this government. Government immunity Struck from the record because he needs it in place to help them when their cases. That's from the Attorney General's office. I want to share a quick story.

23:47 I adopted a set of twins. Now, this is an Idaho, but Idaho and Utah are pretty much the same. I mean, that's pretty much the same, but we move back from Maryland to it. Adopt a set of twins from my sister. She left him in the hospital. When right, after she gave birth, she was all meth doubt, the Twins were in horrible shape. I got a call from the Idaho Department of Health, and Welfare, child services, and I grew up pretty rough. And I was pretty nervous about that phone call. I'm like that's a lot of back child support, but that was my first thought but They told me about these twins, right?

24:27 My sister had had these twins and she just left him in the hospital. They didn't want to split them up, but there was nobody else in my family who could take. So we moved back to Idaho and we got them and I had to become a foster. Me and my wife had to become foster parents, first, and jump through all those hoops, right? And after about a year that, you know, they really perked up. They were doing well, they were getting healthy, they were getting stronger. But it was a pain in the butt because we couldn't leave the county. We were stuck in, Ada County and they went, let's take him out of the county. We so we didn't feel comfortable, you know, they're like but if you want to drop them off at somebody, another foster family.

25:11 They can't. I'm like yeah, you can go pound sand, we'll just wait it out. So after about a year I'm like let's get this move to permanent placement so we can get a date so we can start living Our Lives. And just I got to, you know, they just kept delaying and delaying and finally, I said, what's the holdup and the SEC, the the lady who was there that was in charge of paperwork or whatever? She was like, well I've just been busy and haven't had time to do it. That's like tell you what, I'll pay my secretary an exorbitant amount of money to drive all the way down there to move that file for you. And she goes, you know what, I better let you talk to my supervisor.

25:54 And so I get the supervisor on the phone, who's our case manager, and she goes, here's the thing, you've done a great job and getting them healthy but you already have four kids and we're not sure that your house would maybe the best place for it. So we're going to have a couple other Home studies done and I said some things that maybe aren't necessarily Kosher for this program but um Hung up the phone and immediately started making phone calls to find the nastiest. Meanest Family, Practice attorney, I could find, and I found him, and he cost a lot of money. I mean, it was, it was money.

26:39 Well, spent I'll say that, but it was, it was a lot of money. But I was in there when he made the phone call and he basically said, you know, look if you don't move this case, I'm going to take it in front of the cameras. And we'll see what the citizenry has to say. Good. And Chelsea, in two hours that had not only gotten moved permanent placement but permanent placement outside of a Idaho Health and Welfare. I went to a private agency and we were done within about four weeks but as I talked to him, he said the state gets federal dollars for every kid they have in the system.

27:23 Yeah, they do. So it behooves them to have kids in the system. And what they're doing to to to this lady that you just described is horrific. Yeah, and it pisses me off to my core if she wants to come on I'll let her tell her story on here. Absolutely. And I have a very active audience. So Yeah, give her my number. I would love to get her story out there. It needs to be heard and she's got other women who have had the same issues with the same judge judge Lund here in Utah. Judge Lund that's aligned. So let's blow that name up.

28:03 I like it. I like it. If anybody's got spare time out there you just write a letter. Yeah. Why not beatbeat don't don't threaten violence, nothing like that right but just let him know. Yeah so let him know we know that and see it goes back to what you were just talking about in that bill. They've been empowered and no one has stood up right. No one has said enough. Well I take that back people have stood up but not enough exactly. Yeah we not help. Yeah and and we if we're going to be those Gatekeepers for our kids is freedoms and their rights.

28:47 We We have to get a little more, a lot more active than what we have been. So that's that's crazy. That that there's a bill now that allows estate agent of any stripe. Get away with just about anything with no repercussions. Yeah, I think it's disgusting that the majority of our legislators voted to pass that through and I think it's even more disgusting. That our attorney general thinks that it's okay, it's becoming more and more clear that these these guys are not for the people, they're not representing us anymore and we do we can win, we can stand it. When when, when we have a few thousand people show up, they do stand down, they get scared.

29:30 But we're seeing that with a few bills here and there and there are so many more being pushed through the back door and people don't realize how dangerous those bills are and we just, we need people to be. We need it to be a habit again. Like you said to start guarding the gate again, we cannot leave our post. We can't go in and think we fought this bill. So everything's fine. They will bring it back the next year. They're doing it right now. We need to stand post at the gate and we need to make it. Have it to, you know, the Constitution talks about our fourth branch of government of we, the people, we have the right to assemble and we have a right to a grand jury and Williams versus the United States. Supreme Court ruling upholds, the grand jury of the people and it even states that the other branches of government including the judicial are not allowed to interfere with investigations that we are doing.

30:21 So, we have the means our Founding Father gave, they saw this coming and they gave us, the means to hold them accountable and to abolish the tyrannical government if we need To which we do not need to have an election to do. Because I mean let's just admit it they've become fraudulent and they are fraudulent here but we can do that. But we need enough people standing up. We need we need people to join that Army. Absolutely. When you say they're put passing these bills through the back door. What are you talking about? Explain explain what that is. I just mean there that you know we've got people aren't paying attention and if you asked me the other day, what I thought The most forget how you phrase the question but it was what is the worst problem that we have politically in Utah right now?

31:09 And I was sincerely believe that it's that the people aren't paying attention. I think. They think that we're a very righteous State and because we're religious State God would never let anything happen here that we're a conservative State and so nothing bad could ever happen. Here, where's Ian? But you know, we see this through there. Nephi and through Alma and throughout the Bible, revelations, warns us about these days that the Gaddy out and robbers and government and that is happening here and nobody's paying attention because they think all is well in Zion. And I'm telling you right now that's not the case. Ezra Taft Benson gave a lot of amazing talks about these days and about how one day we would have to fight for our liberty, liberty and our freedom.

31:58 And he said himself that you cannot Not fight for the Constitution and fight for God side. You can't not do both. I think that people just aren't paying attention and because of that they're just friends and right in and I'm passing these bills because nobody is there to stop them. So yeah that's what I mean, you mentioned ESG before and it's something I've looked into but you do such a great job explain what ESG as its environmental social and governance. That's right. Yeah. So there's the governance aspect to that and with the world economic Forum, United and United Nations, we know they want a One World Government before it was The Conspiracy Theory, but they're openly talking about it. Now Ryan, they're very openly admitting it now. But so there's the One World governance aspect to that. And then governing, like I said, your for your social credit score and Utah, they've introduced it as a something called a trust score, but it's the same thing and then the environmental and social fall under that So they govern what you're doing and how you're behaving. And according to that, your score goes up or down. And we see this in China is a perfect example. It's the Communists credit score where if they're not behaving and they're doing things, they're not supposed to, they cut them off to food, they cut them off to water. We saw where because any of those who missed their last PCR test for covid.

33:21 They got locked out of their apartments and couldn't digitally scan in, they can't travel. So they're trying to implement that here and the environment part of it is this Whole carbon emissions reduction, all the things that they're trying to push through with that. And if we're being environmentally friendly or not, will have carbon a carbon credit score in carbon Footprints. If you have so many carbon credits, you'll be allowed to travel. This is what they're working on implementing now and that is in our state plans as well. And happy to share that document if you're able to yeah that for their people to see for yourself Pastor. Yeah. House along. I'll put it in the in, in the episode page note.

34:03 Yeah, absolutely. But you need to be environmentally friendly so if you don't get rid of your gas car because of those carbon emissions, if during a lockdowns, when they're telling you to get in your house because of the air that were breathing and not to the outside mingling, but inside to reduce carbon emissions. If you're not switching over to all-electric, you know, electric vehicles, and and electric forms of energy and all anything. To help the environment your score will go down supporting our our farms and agriculture. You know rural livestock at some point because of you know Pals gas is supposedly contributing and switch over to bug bars which is what they want.

34:46 If you're not counting your calories correctly at some point, they're going to force you and shut you off to that. But if you're eating red meat or dairy, you're not following the rules and then the social aspect of it is like I mentioned before, you know, Admitting you're unconscious bias and your white supremacy calling others either pronouns and and recognizing that this whole transgender world that we're moving to is, is the correct one. And if you are not socially and politically correct, your score goes down and another score goes down, you lose privileges. Just like we see in China. Marla does a great job. I'm not well-versed enough in that as Marlo is, but he talks a lot about the big Banks and businesses.

35:30 Isis and how they're coming for businesses with that right now to? Yeah. Yeah, tune in. And listen, tomorrow Oaks our state treasurer at some point. If you guys have time, Marlo Marlo talks about that one, but he's trying to warn everybody right now, so he's holding events in this state, so you don't know. Look out for Marlo Oaks and any events that he's speaking out, and please go to those especially if you're a business owner because they are coming for you to shut you down with ESG.

36:10 What, why do you think they've accelerated so quickly? I think they realize people have caught on, I think that they thought they didn't think that there was going to be so much for Spock and non-compliance I think that they overestimated themselves and underestimated their ignorance and underestimated us and we people are saying people are starting to catch on and connect the dots and expose things for what they are before. For they have a chance to implement them. We are seeing that happen as well and I think they're scared and I think they're rushing to get things in place before we can shut them down.

36:52 And right now I think it's a race between us and them. I think you're right. I've had a theory for for about the last two years. I think one, I know that this has been about 100 year plan, write this started about in the early 1900's. This big Progressive push to push us past the Constitution into some sort of Quasi technocratic kind of government right? Where where the administrators governed from on high and they don't listen to anybody else and they've been slowly making those steps for about 100 years. And I'm not saying he was the savior of the Republic by any stretch, the imagination.

37:34 He had his problems too. But I think when Trump got elected I think it scared the left. Yeah hardcore left to death because with him getting elected, it showed that all crap. This this hundred-year path. We've been on. This can be undone. If people catch on, and I think they made sure he didn't get reelected, and this is when they hit the accelerator because they're like, we can't risk this again. And so they're they're looking at finishing, the job I think. Within the next two years, I think, I think that, within two years, unless we get a massive amount of support your, you won't recognize where you live anymore, it'll be something completely different.

38:21 And so I think the Masks have come off. Now, like you said, I remember when, when I was reading about Agenda 21 back in like 2012, right? And I was like, holy crap and it and then they had to push it to 2030 because they thought. Okay, we just don't have enough with the infrastructure in place. And now after talking you 2025, that brought it back down. So the masks Off the, I don't think we're playing nice. Any longer. I think. I think they're, they're, they're dead set on this. Yeah, and, you know, some of it will is still a bit impossible to get to by 2025. There will be aspects of it that are 20 30 and they have a 2050 agenda as well but to get, you know, AI extremely Advanced. But as far as implementing, the majority of their control mechanisms to where it's going to be almost impossible to break out of the, a lot of that will be They want enforced by 2025. Yeah, and you know, the interesting thing is is they are Brazen and just blatant about it right now and they're admitting it, there are talking openly and bragging about it. And I think that they think that they can do that, because not enough people are standing up, I think if we all start getting involved and we stood up, I mean, it is a race between us and them.

39:49 We have a chance, we have a chance to fight a lot of this. but I think that that's why they've accelerated is because they We don't have the numbers that we need. That are, I mean, people are outraged, but where are we at a local level? Actually fighting back and doing something about it and we're just not quite there. Right? So what are they? I want to talk to you about AI because that's one of the episodes I saw with you on it. We're like, with all the, the smart Tech in your home and that sort of thing, explain where that goes. Yeah, so we know that the they have this whole Transhumanism movement, and I mean, you can Google that it's where they want these human AI hybrids and they talked about the elite species of AI.

40:40 And they have this map of human settlements where they want humans to live. You'll start to see online, pay attention. It's not all the websites that it's, they're putting it up there where, you know, you go to your medical portal or whatever and there's these Cabs are sections or portals for like humans human medicine. Are like, why do they need to specify that it's human, it seems like something else is coming and they talk about human rights and equality for robots but they want these digital dick. They wanted digital dictatorship and and Noah Harari Klaus. Swabs number one at the world economic Forum, he talks about digital dictatorships in a one world government run by artificial intelligence.

41:23 He talks about how there is no God Jesus in the Bible. Allure fake news. They're going to have their digital gods in the digital iCloud and they're going to basically be running everything and he talks about how they've we talked about a little bit earlier but they try to they've tried in the past with Communism and World dictatorships with Hitler and Stalin and to to take over and dominate the world, but they've never been able to do it. But now with their surveillance with artificial intelligence and surveillance all over the place, I mean, they're moving this out into the Wilderness and put them on trees, they Surveillance everywhere. They don't need sold, you know, they won't even need soldiers to keep us in mind anymore. They bought their surveillance State and it's all connected to the internet of things with the world economic forum.

42:08 And so what they've done is they're connecting smart appliances and devices and M to the internet of things. And this is their big push for why they need carbon reduction is to is to switch everything to Electric. Because when everything is electric, It's All Digital and they can digitally control it. Someone in China can push a button over there and turn half. Of my street off, you know, when they Implement giving controls do other people, they can turn my whole neighborhood off if they want at some point to our. Because now everybody is so again, for convenience complacent. Now, with all, these smart homes and smart devices and an Alexa, and you're smart fridges, and, and Alexa's going on, because I said her name, um, and you're smart water faucets, and you're smart meters and all of it is smart. Digital.

42:59 And what ultimately, they're going to be able to do again with your ESG score communist, credit score, basically, you lose certain Privileges and if you're not behaving, they'll shut you off to anything whenever they want. We do have. It's interesting our water meter, secondary water meters, that came out. And we saw that in Denver in Colorado. For those of you that we're paying attention, the government came in and just locked all their their M on Them their their heat and AC they just locked it on him. And this is part of the thing that they're doing with these grants is we're learning with funding from the government.

43:39 Anything. The government gives gives us grants for it's never, there's always regulations and stipulations attached, right? They basically still portion of your paycheck and get and give up in the form of taxes and then they're willing to give a portion of it back to you if you use it a certain way. So when they're doing these grants and subsidies You take government funding to implement the smart meters. Are rip out your lawn Turf and put non non Acura agricultural Turf, and soil to conserve water. All these things, there's other hidden agendas that go in with that. And this is what we've seen with Communism over time, as they create a problem and then they have the solution and they come in with the solution to problems the problem. But that's where they Implement their agenda. And so it's all under the guise of, you know, conservation efforts and all these other things.

44:24 But yeah, they're getting you. You to replace your systems with everything smart and they're giving you grants and subsidies to do it. But you're going to be connected to the internet of things where they can flip you off to anything whenever they want. Okay, so explain to me, I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a moment. I got smart fridge. How is that going to affect not? I really don't have a smart fridge but let's say I had a smart fridge. Yeah. What's that going to do? Well. What's the damage to me by having a smart fridge that's hooked to the Internet. So that my wife can, you know, peek into the fridge when she's at the store to find out how much milk we really do have. So yeah and you bring up a good point actually because they do have that it's a gnat and a lot of these are like I was so Nifty because you Out and you can check in or you can lock, you know, lock or unlock your door from wherever you're at, or you can check the fridge.

45:20 So, now they have this thing where you're smart, fridge can be connected to the internet and through an app. If you're at the grocery store, it's a, I can't remember if I'm at a milk or not, let me pull up my app and I can look because all over the internet. I can see my fridge. And what do I need? What do I don't need? Okay awesome I'm out of that. I need this and it is it's very convenient. The problem is is like I said they're they're going to eliminate they don't - eating, red meat or dairy, or all these other things. They talk about count counting your calories for us. They want to switching to bug bars instead of meat, and you're only allotted a certain amount of calories or you're only a lot of certain amount of sugar and they're going to ration everything. So what happens is everything you think is convenient now because it is smart and digital, they're going to have ax, they're going to also be able to access that anytime they want to flip controls over to their end, they can and they can see what you have in your fridge.

46:14 And if You, if you, if you had the Parson of, you know, sugar that you're supposed to have, or they don't want us having Dairy, but milk juice or whatever it is the, what they're doing right now with stores, and there was actually, a man named Imam ja B. He was an engineer for Silicon Valley and he helped develop some of this equipment. And he now, he's coming out as a whistle bolt. A blower, and you can type in his name, him on je, a MAA, n, da, ba di bi And listen to some of his podcast and presentations that he's done. But he shows He shows how like in grocery stores, the doors are going to walk this whole digital ID, where they have a zero trust for weight, and it's like the doors to get into the grocery store or store. Yeah.

47:07 So you have a digital ID and it's connected to your ESG score and if you go to scan to open the door to, but it won't let you because according to your ID and your ESG score, and they've seen in the they can see, in your fridge, how much sugar or juice Whatever, you've had it won't let you open the door to even buy that food. So, if they deem, that you already have enough food at home, your, your, this many calories or you, you have. So, and so, you know, this many amount of calories to get used for like, in your fridge. So like, they are going to dictate to you. How many calories you can eat and what you can have in your rations and how often and how do they do that.

47:49 But to be able to have access to all of your stuff. And this is, this is a lot of the data, you know, the facial recognition that's going up that I mean, they're talking about that federally on the news. Now that's not a secret, but on computers and apps. I mean, they're going to know everything about you all the time. And so some of these apps is and that's, you know, the water. How much water have you used with the what the smart meters? They can digitally wherever they are hack into that and see, you know, they've already used their portion, their ration of water there. Shut off the rest of the month. Holy cow. You know, when they limit my amount of I smoke a lot of brisket in the summer I'll put on a trifold hat and throaty and a harbor.

48:31 How pissed me off to no end. But yeah, it's just frightening because in some ways we're doing it to ourselves right before convenience. And look, I love Tech I really do. But at some point, we have to start asking who gets the data, right? Because that's really What it's about because that data is easily weaponized. We see it in China all the time, right? Our version, you know, our version zsg. There's this just you know, I think it's just a quick, they come right out and say it it's a social credit score and if you're not supporting the party, or if you have tweets or social media posts, that you find that the government finds out, you're not being a good citizen, you get Like you were describing you get hammered and we're lining up for it now and that's the part that's just so frightening is that we're begging for it? We just want it for the sake of the gadget itself. Well, we've seen doctors and therapists lose their licenses over this stuff trying to give safe, alternatives to the vaccine or coming out.

49:43 And speaking out against it and they get censored and they get their license in the hole their whole lives businesses, you know, shut down and torn apart. I mean, we see that happening So is it really that far off or difficult to connect those dots pit? And they literally have all of your data and they're trying to do these things to people and they have digital access to controls of everything in your house. I mean, really, how do you? What do you think that's going to look like when we have people who dream about digital globe or Global dictatorships and communism in charge operating those mechanisms and controls. So has Any of that sort of stuff in particular passed in Utah yet. Yeah, via Smart Meters.

50:30 The water meters. Interestingly enough, the entire State? There's no opt-out option. We have to all be smart meter, or secondary M by the year 2030. That's what a coincidence. What a coincidence, what a coincidence of this stuff. They haven't even passed. For instance, the ESG, we fought ESG, and they haven't been able to put that more lose actually been to the capital or state treasurer the help fight that as well. I haven't even passed that yet. And said, yes, it's okay. In the state of Utah to force this on our citizens and implement this yet, they're building it. It's an all our strategic plans, the the state document, the plan that I you've seen on the other podcast, with the Port City, the 15 minutes cities, everything that they're doing is, its, they talk about how they're implementing ESG into it.

51:23 So carbon reduction everything, you know, the transit system, As mass transit system Cox wants. And again, they want every affordable housing. This Mast free Transit. They want everything free because they want you to put it on the government for it, when all of our roads and our public transport and then they get rid of cars and then if they want to shut off the they're already talking about our chart, you know electric vehicle charging stations to conserve energy shutting those down on the weekends or for so many days. So they're going to ban gas cars and have a switch to electric and then it's owed a Of energy. We have to shut off the charging stations. I mean, everything is we're becoming dependent on them for Everything, But It's All Digital. So they are very much so implementing, a lot of us in Utah right now and they're building the infrastructure now and nobody is there to stand up and stop it real quick. It explain what the concept of a 15-minute city is. Yeah.

52:20 So 15 minutes city is basically everything with you. Going to be confined to a city or a district. They're calling them the really smart cities or 15 or 5 Minutes video or walkable communities where everything is within walking distance. So you usually have the residential area in the middle and then from affordable housing or residents, the Smart Homes, right? Everything, you're connected to the transit Hub, which with your digital ID, if you'll be, if you're behaving, you can digitally scan on. If your score is high enough and you're behaving to leave your study, D, Utah has already stated that they're slashing car usage.

53:02 They're getting rid of cars to make it public transport there. And I'll ebikes All Digital, but everything is within 15 minutes from you. So where you work you're going to have to work within 15 minutes of where you live education, Sharon reuse, because they want you to own nothing and be happy. They have those little station set up, but everything that you need entertainment is within 15 minutes. In your city and we're seeing in Oxfordshire and an Australia, they're already doing climate lockdowns. So because of again, like we talked about earlier, they're outside breathing carbon dioxide or the gas cars because of the missions.

53:43 They're locking everybody into their cities and their calling climate lockdowns now. So this is one of the next steps to like they're you know, the world economic forum's ultimate lockdown for For One World Government digital dictatorship control, it may boast about all the time so that everything was within 15 minutes and because everything is digital and everything belongs to the government, all this free stuff that's government-regulated, they can shut down stuff and regulate where you're going, as often as they want, but they have come out with 100 day passes, you're only allowed to travel outside of your cities so many times. If you have the carbon credits for it, you'll be allowed to fly somewhere. Maybe once every three to four years, I actually listened today on news max, they have this thing called the digital twin and they are virtually twinning, all of the cities on their 20, like they're taking digital scans of plants and pictures and museums.

54:45 And basically, they're creating a whole digital virtual world. And they talk about means Zuckerberg talks about the metaverse everything in the metaverse virtual reality, but basically, they're there. R22 cities as well. So that because we're not, we're going to be locked into our cities and we're not able to travel unless they tell us, we can, we can visit our friends and our loved ones and other places via virtual reality headset and it's called Little Twin. Utah has implemented the digital twin as well, through our Utah, Department of Transportation, which is the same Department, that is issuing, that is doing the digital delivery throughout the entire State. And I can provide that to you as well, if you'd like.

55:26 But they Doing it all here. And I heard on Newsmax today, the chief officer at Meta Meta verse. Which by the way, they're metaverse headquarters isn't Eagle Mountain Utah, and in our quote, unquote drought, we're sending millions of gallons of water per Point centers to serve a list, but yeah, they even talked about on Newsmax today, that you'll be able to about this virtual reality basically and about how you'll be able to visit somebody, the a virtual reality set. And Holograms and it'll be as if you're breathing the same air in the same room as that person. So they're setting it up and the and he fought outside, it will be a new augmented reality. That was on the news.

56:06 Max. Go look up to the accession of news. Maxing and watch that. It's actually very. You said just a second ago that Utah's already passed something to get rid of cars. So, we're seeing in other states, they want gas cars banned by 2035. I think they're going and speed up that. Time to be honest, why didn't you tell them? They've already come out, they started the narrative a few years ago and articles do we really need cars and promoting these walkable cities where everything is within walking distance. But you saw has come out in our state plans for right now, they want to slash car usage. To only one car per household in the 15 minutes cities. Desert news, came out with an article that stated you'll be allowed one car per household so that you can go out of your city.

56:56 It's City if you want to go out on the weekends. So they're already talking about limiting when we can travel outside of the city. He's the problem is, is how long are we allowed one car? This is a step-by-step implementation that we have seen them, they're very patient seen for decades. So yeah, they're already slashing us down to one car per household. They want everything electric, though them at some point. What would be the mechanism in which they can enforce that though? They can pass bills. Note that mark my words? Because I'm, I'm reading these bills and I'm up at the Capitol. They are putting this stuff into our bills right now. I believe you, I'm just curious what the mechanisms will be where where you no longer have your second car, right? Yeah.

57:46 And I'm not to be 100% sure. I'm not sure what that will look like if it'll be, you know, because it's illegal. The the police are State can come remove it. I don't know what that enforcement mechanism will be at that point when people start throwing a fit but Right now, I think what, what they're counting on is people buying into the narrative, buying into the fact that it's a good thing buying into this whole. Everything's for the betterment of the climate under climate change, we need to get rid of carbon emissions. That people are just going to willfully, go with that because they're being told it's for our safety. There's also the, I think they're also going to start to make things unbearably expensive for us so that we want their alternative systems.

58:28 One of the things that Did just pass is now not only are we paying for, you know, the toll road, the toll Lanes, on the freeway and the stuff for infrastructure on our roads through taxes with gas. Now they've just passed this bill, I think it's going to be effective July 1st of this year, if I'm remembering correctly. If I'm wrong on that, I'll let you know but they have they've already passed this bill. Where, if you are driving cars you're also going to have to pay a fee. See per mile that you drive but electric and hybrid cars. You don't have to and it says, right on, Cox's website. The choice is yours.

59:09 Oh yeah. I mean. And they're pushing people into this homeless system because it's so unbearably expensive to pay for everything and live on your, they want everybody in affordable housing and I think they're just going to continue to make everything so expensive and so miserable that we're dying for a solution and we're To be dependent on the government to take care of everything for us and and buy into these alternative systems. Yeah. No I think you're right. I don't if they were to come and just rip stuff away, right? We would all be up in arms, right? But if they can create the conditions at which you beg them for the solution, right? Yeah and they got you and that There's a reason, I'm a Believer in rugged individuals, right?

1:00:03 It's because When you are reliant on somebody else for your day-to-day Necessities your slave. Yep, your slave. You don't, you don't have the option of saying, no, I got this. You, you are beholden to them. And that is a very frightening place to be So what are they doing right now? With the water you brought that up earlier Yeah, do we want to get into the Great Salt Lake? They what do you want to get into the Great Salt Lake? Yeah, let's let's do it. Yep. If you're good?

1:00:43 I'm good. Yeah, so great fault. Wave The Narrative right now is that there's all this arsenic in the water right now, right? And if it were to dry up and evaporate because we're in a drought, this water is evaporating at such a big quick rate that we're going to be breathing in this arsenic dust and it's going to be toxic for us and And the birds, it's a migratory safety habitat for the birds and so the birds need the brine in the brine shrimp to survive. And so we need to find a way to raise the levels of this Lake and save us in the birds. Well, I ran into contracts where they are actually evaporating a ton of water through the Great Salt Lake intentionally because they're mining for lithium lithium and magnesium and other minerals. But We have Compass minerals and u.s. magnesium. U.s.

1:01:35 Magnum the lithium came, some of these companies, the lithium King actually owns it 1760 Acres of the salt flats or they're allowed to evaporate our water out there to mine lithium and they're 100% owned by British Columbia. So Canada, is here evaporating our water so that they can get lithium. We have other companies who are I forgot the name of the other one. There's another one that's 100% based in British Columbia but we have come Compass minerals, who's contracted with LG Energy Solutions and all the energy solutions is one of the Big Time Players like for Tesla, but they are big on the electric vehicle batteries. And they've also, they've partnered with compass minerals here.

1:02:24 And then, they've also partnered with China. So what they're doing is they're evaporating are Water and and one of the things they're evaporating our water through the Great Salt Lake for lithium but then they're taking that with them and they're turning it around and they're giving it to China. So, we are helping our enemy right now with our water and our resources. And one of the big things they're talking about Brian in the brain chip. And we need to save the brine. Well, one of the things that creates high quality lithium is Brian and Utah has some of the highest quality lithium in the world. And so one Company, boasted about, I think it was us, magnesium, one of them has a 55 acre, infill solar evaporation Pond, and one of them has a 65 Thousand Acre, evaporation Pond. And I think it was the u.s.

1:03:16 Magnesium, who was boasting about how they evaporate in the course of one year, 40 billion gallons of water, from our Great Salt Lake for lithium and to put in perspective. Perspective. How much water it takes for this? Because they, because they want to move everything over to Green energy to electric vehicles and everything electric. So these with them to make batteries for electric vehicles, a half a million to 500,000 gallons of water is what you need to evaporate for one metric ton of lithium and one metric ton of lithium makes about 190,000 cell phones. So a lot of water for fueling China and so there are other reasons that are lake is dwindling. Now Cops came out with the proclamation and basically said, because we need to save the Great Salt Lake. We are suspending, your water rates, we're suspending. Your right to apply for all, inappropriate inappropriate and surplus water rights, even though shareholders are getting letters saying that they're only getting, get 90 percent or less of their shares of water this year, because we're in a drought may need to conserve and caulk stated that all of that extra water that we don't have a right to apply for any more is going to go to the Great Salt Lake.

1:04:33 Then you have our legislators putting bills into force that we have to have our secondary smart meters in place by 2030. No opt-out option, justjust enforced. And and again, it's digital. So they've put the read Valves. And now the next step will be the control valves. But once those are remote controlled control valves, when they decide that they're right now, it's conserve conservative at some point. They're going to start rationing. And again, this is World economic Forum. Ration your food, Food, ration, your water ration, energy ration everything. But if you're using more water than you're supposed to do, they're just going to shut you off to it. So it's our responsibility to conserve more and more, and more water while they're looking for every reason to drain it, to meta to metaverse, meta platforms, and Eagle Mountain for their data cooling centers for construction of new development, for affordable housing, which, why are we doing this? And why is cops thing will take all the immigrants we can get. When apparently, we don't have enough water for ourselves to the mining and even with mining or takes Ton of water and then operate it from minerals.

1:05:37 I think it's completely irresponsible but that is actually where our water is going in the 40 million tax dollars. That went to saving the Great Salt Lake that was put into a trust. I did a I contacted the state auditor's office and I also did a grandma Crest a grandma request with the division of for fire forestry and state lands and they came back and told me that all 40 million Of our tax dollars, that went to see the Great Salt Lake. Just went into a trust that Rockefeller 100% owned. It went nature conservancy and the Audubon Society which both of those are the Rockefeller Rockefeller Brothers fund. So he owns 100 he's created a trust and that 40 million dollars is going in there.

1:06:21 So Rockefeller can manage our Great Salt Lake. So yeah, that's where we're at with the water but conserve conserving and these, you know, rip out your the local escapes where you because we need to conserve water. Rip out your Turf and plant non-agricultural Turf and soil. As you're ripping out your ability to print out of culture for yourselves and it's some things but you're ripping out a huge. They've just actually passed another bill to the Senate that the house asked it just a couple days ago stating that if you did that and now you So you don't want it. And so, you swap it back to agricultural Turf and soils. Um, they can place a lien on your property now. To the back so now they can come through your property. If you don't pay back in time, I mean this is this is this is about control and that thing is so funny to that dot The lanterns thing because a lot of it is replaced replace grass with rock, rock, create heat and at you're getting rid of more moisture and water that way, it's stupid. Yep.

1:07:28 Um, but yeah, they're putting all these things in place where you need to conserve. You keep conserving your water but we can suspend your water rights and take it over here and give it to China and British Columbia so that they can my lithium, which by the way, is extremely toxic. Some of these companies own more than one permanent for hazardous. Toxic waste because lithium Um is so toxic and on the Environmental Protection, agency's website themselves, they State how to get rid of lithium batteries, electric vehicle batteries, and cell phone batteries, you can't recycle them. You can't reuse them. They're so toxic. They talk about how to get rid of hazardous waste with these batteries. So I mean, it's insane and the hydrogen they want to change over to Green energy.

1:08:11 So we're not using fossil fuels. They want our last coal plant shutdown and Utah by 2025 and they want to replace it with all the Green energy with a lithium and electric. And with these hydrogen compressed hydrogen, Caverns down in Delta Sawtooth. Caverns is one of them. The problem with this is and they admit themselves, they have a Natural Gas Liquids Pipeline and they have to use gas, other gasoline Phyllis caverns and natural fuels to fuel it. So it's ridiculous. And they have contract stating that this compressed hydrogen is going to go fuel Los Angeles in cities in In California, not even here in Utah, not even fuel energy for us and guys in order to get the hydrogen molecules to do that, you have to use up water.

1:08:59 You have to separate oxygen from hydrogen to get that hydrogen and they've admitted that again, just two. Maybe three days ago, I was at the Capitol giving public comment. There was a, I think a water commissioner that stood up and said that he was really worried about this because in order to get the hydrogen molecules, we are using up more water. And I made a comment, and they just decided unanimously vote yesterday, and sent it to the Senate. So they're being extremely responsible with our water that you need to conserve, and then they're putting these control mechanisms in place. Okay, I think we get the idea that we're in some trouble. Yeah, we're in some trouble. I want to talk about the players, right? Yeah.

1:09:45 Because I think knowing who the players are and where they're getting their funding from is always the tell, right? That'll tell you everything you need to know, so it's no secret. Utah is heavily Republican. Right. Right Rhino Republican. But yes Rhino Republicans but yes Republicans. Yeah. So real quick do you know of Give me the name of one of our local politicians are at one of our local Congressman or whatever. Yeah, we can go there. Well, how does he get funded this?

1:10:26 He is. He funded all himself. I mean, I know he's a pretty wealthy guy, but is he able to fund himself? See, here's the thing that this this is and you hear about this on a federal level men, talking about less than Washington is these private Public Partnerships and the ngos Nonprofits, for instance Mitt Romney's son Josh Rami. He's president over. I'm sorry, he's not the president but he's on the Board of Trustees and he's a trustee of shelter, the homeless. So our entire homeless system here, people think it's government-run, it's all nonprofits and it's run by all this, all the people that are involved, so they do have We have, we have these lobbyists in these ngos and these nonprofits that come present to legislation, which is it's all theater, they already know made up their minds ahead of time how they're going to vote but because it needs to be recorded on minutes, they presented on the floor.

1:11:23 And when you go home and you start researching these nonprofits, that these legislators are voting. Yes, we will give you there getting our tax dollars. They're giving a legislative Appropriations to these ngos to implement a lot of the stuff you're in our state. Whether it's Nation energy, infrastructure, help all of it and then you when you when you research these groups you start to realize that a lot of legislators sit on those boards and they're giving Appropriations themselves, they're giving bids to corporations that they sit on or our one shell company, one nonprofit company away so they are given themselves tax dollars. That then what they do is they also have these bigger corporations that fund and partner with these smaller ngos who are big And players like Rockefeller and Soros and their foundations and through that they invest in our economy.

1:12:14 And so now we have this big spider web of our tax dollars and their investment of our tax dollars. Do it in and now you see these stocks stocks and bonds and all this trading going on with basically, through these nonprofits that are working a shell companies that half of our legislators are in bed with going back to Rockefeller in the elite and United Nations, and Federal Reserve and all of it. So, But we don't ever see, we don't ever see the return on that. It's just our government that gets to see that the return on that and how are all these politicians getting rich, you know, like like Romney, like Pelosi, how are they all getting? So rich based off what they do. But yeah, that are giving themselves, the bids they are in bed with these other corporations and Milner, who's a legislator of ours.

1:13:06 She passed a bill that That the regulatory reform relief program within our regulatory sandbox and that sound box, basically states that there are businesses and companies that can file for exemptions to the law. They won't be regulated or have to follow any state law for experimental products or services. And then there's also the new business grant for like Utah businesses, where you're getting texts Credits and grants for businesses for Utah. But when you go look and then and Milner also. So we've also lost checks and balances because all three branches of government are serving together on the executive branch boards. So, not only are they a part involved with these ngos and public-private Partnerships, but they're also weave. Our Constitution prohibits that, right? We're supposed to check some through but we haven't, we brought them all together.

1:14:02 So she also sits on the board that she created. To be able to regulate who gets these grants and tax credits. And when you go look at the, the companies on our government website, it's the Royal Bank of Canada. It's metaverse. It's all these other big bad corpse and then Merit medical. I see on there a few times. Well and Milner sits on the governance Board of Merit medical and is over the shareholders of that and she's over ESG specifically for that company. Merit medical, I find this it interesting. Does business with EV ECB can Nano and Ally. I some who ran against Mike Lee serves on the executive team of that, but they're partnered. They're financially sponsored together than Merit medical. And then are also sits on the Board of Trustees of Intermountain Healthcare, which is, by the way, a non-profit. How does that work?

1:14:58 And they are partnered directly with the world economic Forum. Spencer Echols, who's tied to the Federal Reserve. Also sits on that board. So, to Scott Anderson who also sits on Merit medical my glove, it fits on that board, as well. Which, again my glove, it is one of the founders of Envision Utah, which is involved with everything. And then you start to see, like, Envision Utah, and Intermountain Health Care and medical, and the University of Utah, and all of these companies and corporations and ngos are all important partner together and financially sponsoring each other. If you look at the chemistry Gardner policy Institute at the University of Utah, You'll see, Josh Romney and Mitt Romney and Governor Cox will see Mike Leavitt hatch was on there but you'll also see and Milner some of our legislators on there.

1:15:46 It's the same players over and over everywhere you go and then it's the same people that own the homeless system and everywhere you go. There was another one that I was a no there is a u.s. Global Leadership Coalition and you can Google this. Look it up. It's the UN it's the world economic Forum. It's rough. A child Soros Rockefeller, all the big bad corpse corporations. I mean, Hillary Clinton is on that board. Henry Kissinger is on that board and then when you look at the state Advisory board for that group and Milner's on their Bramble, these are legislators Ben McAdams. Who's legislator And Sean Reyes is actually on that board as well.

1:16:32 But I mean they pop up over and over and over and then when you look at who who these boards and organizations are partnered with and who they're financially sponsored by or have memberships to where, you know, they're swapping money, it's all the same corporations. It's just the spider web of all of them tied together. And then, there are ngos and nonprofits so Lobby and present to our legislators to get bills passed to do. Bidding. And that's what, that's what we're seeing happen. A lot of them like Mitt Romney and Brad Wilson who was our Speaker of House. He's the one who made sure that that 40 million. He sent that 40 million to Rockefeller for our Great Salt Lake.

1:17:14 He I think he also sits on the chemistry art and policy Institute as well with MIT and and Cox and our legislators and judges all three branches of government together on that board as well. But Brad Wilson also owns destination homes, which has gotten bids for affordable, you know, building. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, they're again themselves bids and then they're giving it a tax of her, our tax dollars to their own companies. And it's it's very lucrative People forget that the very definition of fascism. Is that private public partnership, right? Yes. In Germany with Volkswagen during the Third Reich. You saw with Krupp steel, right?

1:18:00 Whenever corporations and government get into bed together, that's where it goes. Every time. Every time and the fact we're seeing it happened here. Is spooky. So it will let me ask you this. Do you think that what's happening in Utah right now is par for the course for the rest of the nation, or do you see something different happening and happening in Utah? Maybe with greater speed or greater emphasis. Where do we sit in relation to the rest? Rest of the nation right now? There is more emphasis in Utah, specifically, because they want us to be the Hub, their new Global one rule. Old order.

1:18:43 There's a lot of global hubs but Utah's, the main one and our Salt Palace is actually a United Nations Headquarters. They've moved. Yeah, our Salt Palace, it's the United Nations Headquarters of the United Nations building Nearly got that up. But we had, we've had a lot of funding, go to the, to the, to the UN to move their business. Here we have dates and Rockefeller here everywhere through our Inland Port, they brought Striker which is partnered with Rockefeller in when they did the whole gavi when hate to say it, but the church rolled out Gabby for the vaccination program here. Gabby is partner directly with Rockefeller, and it is run by The Federal Reserve World Bank Rockefeller Soros. Can't think the last 10 United Nations but I mean they've brought Rockefeller owns the trust over. Right felt like they've brought him in everywhere and you'll start to see I mean pay attention to articles when they're like the green new revelation and they want Utah to be the green energy height you know hydrogen Hub or you know the youth hot.

1:19:53 Inland Port is the new Global Hub. Pay attention the Articles you read they tell you they're turning us into a global, the Global Hub like Everywhere everywhere all of our infrastructure real quick. What's Gabby Gabby is a partnership between GlaxoSmithKline and Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline is actually I don't have the documents right in front of me so I can't remember who owns what But Mitt Romney sits on the Board of Trustees of Marriott International, which is a partner directly with World economic forum and is not doing good things. And I forget Which owns Which but they're tied to GlaxoSmithKline as well.

1:20:36 So again, you just start seeing this spider web of and this full circle, kind of being made of how all these people are just connected to every part of it. Why do they want Utah to be a Global Hub? I think there's a physical and spiritual aspect to that. To be honest, we are very mineral Rich. We have some of the best, your mineral rich land Soil and Water in in the globe. I think that they do, they want our land and minerals and there's a lot of opportunity here for. I mean, they're coming in everywhere to try to get the lithium and all sorts of stuff that we have. They're not that other countries don't have it. But I also think that this is a sphere Actual battle as well.

1:21:19 More so than anything, I think this is a light between God and evil and good against Bad light and Stark and I think that because of who we are and what we represent here we were we were chosen as a Target that's just my opinion. I can't prove that but again, we're also very obedient here. Because were so religious and we think we're so conservative and nothing bad could ever happen here. I think that they kind of use that to manipulate. Yeah, for whatever reason they just saw this is prime land.

1:22:00 That's a turn into the Hub and so far, nobody noticed. I mean, for a long time already noticed, what was going on? What they were doing? So I'm grateful to you to have me on just so we can start trying to expose some of this stuff and not All is not well in Zion and I notice righteous of a state as we think we are. And one of the things I'm frustrated with right now, is we're so focused on being kind and Christ was not kind to the sinners in the temple. He threw them out in righteous anger and there is a very dark evil coming for our kids right now and we need to throw it out of their lives, throw it as far away as we can. And this whole, you know, they're doing these family-friendly drag shows every weekend, all the time at BYU.

1:22:40 And in Salt Lake City, where little kids little two-year-olds. There's a picture an article that came out in the Salt Lake, Tribune in the Salt Lake. Tribune was talking about it, like it was a good thing but it had to be two or three and he was sticking dollar bills in the panties of some drag queen artists and we're throwing these everywhere. And we're normalizing sexuality with our kids and nobody is standing up to this because we want to be kind, we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. We don't want people to not like us, we want to please everyone and There again, this is a very we're seeing it in the schools, they're coming for kids with the transit. They want to put mental health clinics into the school's, I'm fighting that bill to, and I would love to have all of you there. Helping me fight that there are not good things that they want passed through at this mental health with our education system, but they are coming for the kids. And at some point we have to stop being the kind State and stand up and say enough and fight for what's right? And fight for the truth.

1:23:38 I couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't can't agree with you more that first. Yeah, I think I think Salt Lake in Utah was picked out singly because of what it was. Well, it was the look Mormonism is unique because it is really, really, the only American religion, right? It's the only religion that ever said those documents that those founding fathers put down. That's damn near scripture, right? So if they can come here, And get the job done here. Well, it's pretty easy to get the dominoes to fall everywhere else.

1:24:21 I've always said, watch Utah and watch Texas, as they go. That's, that's where things. That's where the rubber meets the road. Yeah, and you're right. They are coming for our kids. I've had several guests on here multiple times about homeschooling. I think it's time that we get our kids out. Yes, we can't afford. Ford to leave them in any longer. I remember, I remember the argument not, I was one of the guys early on who was like homeschooling. I want my kid to be weird, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I'm all for it now. Now I'm telling my son don't send her to school, right?

1:25:03 Yeah. Keep your daughter home. You teacher, you can do it. Let me give you some resources and some folks, I know because you're 100%, right. Right. I think I have an episode called, they're coming for our kids because that's exactly what it is. And as a fundamentalist guy, I reached out many times to a lot of LDS folks going. My problem is your problem. We can have our religious differences later, but right now, if we're all supposed to do, if we, if we all say, we worship the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Then all of our asses are on the line on this one. And we had better get To the point to where we can work together, where it's truly important, we'll have our theological differences later.

1:25:50 But right now, it's all hands on deck. Yeah. Yeah. And you guys, I promise you, I promise you, I have been to the capital. I a lot most of the days and if I'm not there in person, I'm it tuned in virtually online but I have They are pushing this stuff into our schools, and to our health system. I promise you, I have read the bills. I have listened that to them discuss this and they are all for pushing this ideology on to our kids. And there's a lot of, you know, we're creating new bills where I mean, we already know we have a problem. We kind of we kind of touched on this with child, protective services and DFS and all of this and made this the trafficking, which if you don't believe that there's sex trafficking going on with the kids, go read Revelations because Revolution specific.

1:26:38 He talks about trafficking in the last stage. All of these things that we're seeing the Bible, in our scripture warns us about but I promise you. Yes, in Utah, they are coming for the kids and they are coming for the kids harder here than in any other state because of what we represent here. Our state represents families, this is the child, you know, where the Mormons all of us have 10 kids, right? We this is our family friendly state of. We represent children here Are they are hitting our kids harder here than they are in other. Any other state. I promise you that they are and the only reason that you're not seeing it, it's not being blown up on the news here like it is in other states, but it's because you're not paying attention, please pay attention these drag shows that are gone. I mean they're popping up every weekend now. Family-friendly, all over the place. You said there was a drag show at BYU. Yeah.

1:27:34 Sorry, not at BYU. Some BYU groups that put it on and they are Jason's. Actually if you want we are the people ready. He's had some people and professors from BYU. Come on. There's some episodes that they've done would be cool for you to have them on at some point as well, that there are talking about what the professors and you know what they're pushing at BYU right now. And they are teaching, you know, they're they're indoctrinating. The kids at schools with Even in our elementary schools and high schools. But with like climate the climate hoax, Aaron them with that, but environment and and the transgender and all of that stuff, all that ideology, they are implementing into BYU classes and at BYU as well.

1:28:19 And they were so BYU organizations and groups that put on and supported the transgender. Yeah, yeah, drop show. Has there been any bills concerning the transgender movement? Now, sort of stuff up there at at the Capitol this time around, there was one that I was actually really happy about that. One was just the other day, was it yesterday? It may even yesterday the day before, but there was there were overflows. There were more people and this is what I'm saying. When we have a lot of people show up, they get scared and they back down and they listened because they know we're in charge, there was the the entire main room and then there were overflowing as of other rooms of people giving comment and say, there was a bill passed that there were two, but we were able to get the one passed, which does not allow transgender surgery on minors know how the one that would allow hormone blockers. I believe that that one was passed. And I don't remember, to be honest, the specific, the specifics of that one, but there are instances where we We they can still pass hormone blockers and just so you know. A mental health clinics that they want to bring into schools. They are hiring psych psychiatrists and doctors through the state through Envision Utah. Mike Leavitt Soros jumped in

1:29:49 with coughs and you know all of these Psychopaths doctors and scientists trust the science right to be installed in to work for the state. They could be installed in these mental health clinics. They want to bring to the schools where they're treating your kids without you there. And there is actually state code right now states that the Department of Health and Human Services, can take custody of your child and forced them into electric convulsive treatment, which is electrocuting the brain to induce grand mal seizures to treat depression in if they are a threat to themselves. And now we're seeing the suicide prevention stuff going on and the Department of Health Institute, Human Services is also issuing a what's called a sharp as they jrpg.

1:30:34 It's student health and Student health and risk. Prevention, is what sharp stands for and they're issuing. These surveys starting in sixth grade in the schools. I dunno Alpine School District and granite School. District are doing it. Where they're, you're asking your kids all sorts of questions like where are the guns and ammo stored in your home? How many of their kids are at home? Have you ever tried to cut yourself? Have you ever tried to burn yourself? Have you ever thought about trying to kill yourself if so? Have you thought about how you would do it very specific Ting. Questions, the questions are very leading to, my parents are bad. My teachers are good, and this is part of this whole ideology with Communism where they want. Yes, it's double prong to the state or the collective is a whole, but they are.

1:31:22 This is also a screening tool and it's screening, the kids for the information that could subject them to this treatment. And if you don't believe they're doing it, go look up. Intermountain Healthcare? ECT electroconvulsive treatment. It is right on their website and they state that they induce seizures through electric shock. To treat, and it will take at least, I think at least 12 treatments, right on there. It says, it's not guaranteed to work. There are forms that I have found for. I think it was, Molina Healthcare, we're on the check box, there's a voluntary, and involuntary, but state code says that. Once this treatment is prescribed, it's not up to the parent or the child anymore. It was up to the Department of Health to appoint to fact-finder to make the decision on. If they are going to force you to give custody to the department so that they can do this treatment on your Child, that's already State Statute.

1:32:10 That's enforce they. There were a couple bills. Now originally, this was electroshock and adults then they changed it to electroshock and children specifically not even adults and children just changed it to Children. Then they change electroshock to electroconvulsive which in the code states that the definition of that means dangerous grand mal seizures and there was other bit there other bills that they tried to pass that would require. First of all, would prohibit It this treatment on anyone, under the age of 18, didn't get past. The other one was that would require informed consent and on my consent form. This bill is very specifically, it would need to include think these things, plus more of all the things this treatment can cause like, you know, permanent seizures, we know grand mal seizures do that. Once you have one, you're likeliness of having them again, goes up, fifty percent permanent paralysis, hemorrhaging of the brain.

1:33:07 React arrest, all sorts of things. Any any deaths within 14, days of this treatment would have to be those autopsies would have to be reported to the state, and the autopsies that are done that show that this treatment resulted from asphyxiation from treatment, would have to be reported this date. Back it down, didn't pass it. This bill is still in force and I am terrified that they push these mental health clinics into these schools. They start prescribing this treatment state code says once. Prescribed use the parent and the child won't get us there anymore. They can force your towel in this treatment. So do you really think that they're not going to start forcing treatment hormone blockers because they pass the bill that allows that now?

1:33:49 Well, yeah. Because Because the numbers, the numbers that they publish, not the actual numbers because there are those are separate. They say, oh well, you know, if you don't allow your child to transition, your child stands a much greater risk of committing suicide. No sorts of things. We've already seen that. We saw that in Canada. We've seen that in the states. Hmm. So we're pardon the expression. We're damn stupid. If we don't think it's going to come here, right? Oh, it's already here and and I don't know if you've heard Chloe Cole, she's actually testified at Congress in DC. She transitioned as a child and she transition to a boy and now she's transitioning back and she realized later that her decision wasn't because she was in the wrong body, it was a result of trying to deal and cope with sexual assault that she suffered as a child and she wants to go back but she doesn't know if she'll ever be able to have kids. Now, if she does, she doesn't know she'll be able to breastfeed if she won't be able to breastfeed On. But she's stuck in this place where she says my doctors. Don't know what to do with me.

1:34:56 They can't help me and my parents did this because they convince them that I would kill myself. If they didn't let me have this transition and so she was actually at our state capitol speaking for us, speaking for you Tom's, because why not show? That was actually the one that we had overflows of of people show up. Good. Good taste that good. Yeah. For the kids at least hopefully. Right. But and that's the thing that people don't realize is they're implementing these other things with our health system and our education system and even our infrastructure, these 15 minutes cities. These lockdowns, I mean this is going to affect your kids to it.

1:35:37 They will never know what freedom is if we allow this to continue to happen. No for those in the audience, old enough to remember what life was like before 9/11. Just remember, just remember back then and ask yourself where are we compared to September 10th? 2001 to now because it's vastly different. It's an uncomfortable, thought experiment, but it's vastly different. Yeah, and it's continuing to get worse and worse. It's only going to get worse than continue to go downhill until we are in a state of Communism. Ourself.

1:36:22 And if you really think that that could never happen here just because we're America take a good look in the mirror and reflect on that. The devil hasn't gone anywhere. He's always been here we have seen Stalin, we have seen Hitler, we have seen some very horrific things and he he goes and he hides for a little bit and then he comes back and he tries again and if you really think that he's not going to try and God's Promise Land it's that's ignorant. Speaking for some reason as Americans and I'll Whittle it down further here in a second. But as Americans we think that Natural law, stops at our borders to a certain extent, right? We look at the look at economy, right? We print all this money.

1:37:11 And we think it can't hurt us right because we're America, right? Right. It's for somehow, the laws of economy stop right at our border, right? Well, that's not true. We're all the unstable stuff going on in the economy up six. One day down eight, the other that's all signs of an economy that has way too much liquidity in the market. If we Embrace principles that are communists in nature or that we can Freedom, it will have an effect. It's not like that those those consequences stop at our borders. And and for you know the average run-of-the-mill LDS person, I would say just like you did things aren't good in Zion and God warned us it was going to get to this point. So if you got Your head in the sand and think. Well, I live in Utah.

1:38:09 I live 30 miles right down the road from Church Headquarters. Guess what? Guess what doesn't make a difference, right? So, all right. We've covered a lot. I want to ask this. What can my audience do to help get involved? General Flat. And I went to a week and act Liberty conference here last year and general Flynn was here and he was telling all of us. No one is coming to save. Of you get involved at a local level because this is how we fight back the cities and counties can fight the state and the state's can fight. Do you see? It seems overwhelming when we like you mentioned earlier.

1:38:50 Trying to fight what's happening in d.c. because we can't but we can fight it when we take our state's back in the States come together. But we have to start in our local areas or cities and our counties and guys if you think it's not going on in your cities and counties, it is it is there are very few that I've not bought into this but we need to educate our city, councilman, our County Commissioners, and we need to get to the capital. General Session is six weeks, you can do it. And I for one just, just an experiment, for one year, put football to the side and come stand up for our freedoms, I promise you, you're going to feel a lot better. There's something very exhilarating and encouraging and empowering when you're up there in a roomful of people next to you fighting for our freedoms.

1:39:36 And the Freedom's of our children. But we need you at the Capitol. If you can, if you want a virtually attend, that's fine. Please give public comment. If you're willing if you're able to just, you know, kind of Bill off and start reading a bill and see what you find on, and share it with people, but please share this information with other people. So first of all, they realize we've been we've been asleep. We need to wake up is happening here and just get involved in whatever way you can if you want to subscribe. Tibe to defending Utah and Utah. Freedom Coalition, they share a lot of my research. They do a lot of their own research in acquits, defending Utah's getting petitions up. Not the normal petitions that don't do anything but constitutional formal petitions to fight some of this stuff constitutionally we can get writs of certiorari later down the down the road.

1:40:29 But I mean, we have to start somewhere where we start physically coming together to form that arm. Me so that we can fight this system but please just in whatever way you can get involved. Start going to city council and I know it's boring and it's not fun but I think City council's, some of them are once a week summer every two weeks it's a couple hours every two weeks and legislative session is six weeks so we can do that. So defending Utah. Utah, Freedom Coalition. Yes, those are the two groups you recommend to partner with. Yeah. And it's not that there's not more of. Those are just the two that I really know are going hard at it, and that are fighting hard and they're willing to, I mean, they're not one of us are getting paid, you know, we're not asking for money.

1:41:16 We're not doing this for the money. We're doing it because we genuinely care about our home and about your children, and we are fighting hard to keep your children safe. So We're not asking for money but there's a there's a lot of good information up there and calls to action when they're when they're trying to pass certain bills, we're putting up. Look this is the bill number. This is what it says. This is the date, you know, granted the legislature has the habit of changing the schedule on us last minute, but we're trying to give you a fair, you know, warning of when they're doing it you can call and email your legislators on some of these bills if you can't get in, I know it's hard with work but Yeah, they've got a lot of calls to action on both of their websites as well.

1:42:00 So it is we are we are the people. I think all of these are dot-org. Join the telegram channels. If you want. There's I'm in there and we share a lot of stuff, but we're at. We're trying to expose and share and tell you what, we're finding, we're doing the research and then we're giving it to you hopefully, so that you will take that and help us go fight. So we've got to start showing up to these meetings. I know it's not fun. And it's mundane. And it it's not what we want to be doing on an evening after work, especially during football season, but we have to start guarding the gate. Again, we, there's nobody guarding the gate, we have to get back there and and fix things. Yeah, absolutely.

1:42:45 We do. Where does where does someone go to get educated on these, right? I mean, look, I've spent the last 20 years getting Don't stuff. Yeah. Coming into it now I can't imagine it's I feel sorry for folks coming into it right now because it just happened. So quick. Where do you recommend people go to get educated on stuff which part there's a lot of moving parts. Let's just say about, what's, what's trying to be passed right now because there's one thing to read the bill, right?

1:43:25 I firmly believe Of bills are worded the way they are now to lose average readers, right? Yeah. Yeah. They are loaded in a very specific way to make sure that nobody in the general population, reads them because let's face it. They're less interesting than like stereo instructions, right? I really don't talk in plain English anymore and it's really just a long. Um, yeah. And to be fair, I mean, the first bill, I picked up, it took me 3 weeks of looking up. Hands and looking up code in conjunction with it and rereading a paragraph over and over until it clicked. I mean, it took a while to really understand a built, but then, as you start reading more and it starts referencing other bills, it's like, oh yeah, I read that. I know.

1:44:10 Okay. And it starts, it's like riding a bike, right? The more you do it, the more, you just quickly start to catch on. So I would say just jump in and start somewhere. Even if you don't know what you're doing, that's what I did. But you can go, you can you can go. To our state agency websites. It's been very difficult to keep up with that because they're adding new, they're passing bills where they're creating new departments and new funds all the time. And so you're seeing new websites, go up and I mean just stuff go up one after the other, and it's hard to even find all of them or know what all exist anymore. But it's just, it's just going on on the search for it. Really, that's what I did.

1:44:52 That's what these other groups, how they started out. And now we're just bringing all the research and Operation together and we've been doing it for a while. It's just, it's easier to when things pop up because we know how to connect the dots. We can see that, but I would recommend that you jump in and get to the point where you can do that as well. Because we need you all, you can look up our state, strategic plans are strategic, plans are five, usually one to five year plans, that kind of go in in conjunction with, for instance, Stalin's, five-year plans all Communists have done it. But you'll start to see if you start like look up a world economic Forum, go to their website and download one of the white paper is on, you know, affordable housing, or whatever it is.

1:45:38 And then go just Google, do a Google search for Utah. Strategic plan, affordable, housing, and read the two and notice that it's the same language and the plans that they're implementing it or step by step. We're following along with what they're doing. It's not a good thing then what sometimes what I'll do is just Google, you know, Utah, state code, affordable, housing or and then I start to kind of go through some of the bills that go along with that. And it's like look at step by step how we've been implementing this and that's what I do. I don't think there's any one system that works for everyone. I think we're all trying to figure it out together. We'd love to have you join the fight and and figure it out with us. But again, Utah Freedom Coalition in defending Utah, we share a lot of research that we've done for you as well and when you start to Open the documents and read the things that we're sending.

1:46:29 I think that will kind of open your eyes, to, some of the stuff that other stuff that you might want to research yourself as well. That makes sense. I don't think there's a one one place and go to educate yourself on how this is all working. But I think, as we start to come together and we share our information, in our knowledge, with each other, we can start to wake each other up and I learned to continue to learn together. Awesome. Mmm. I'll say it again because I think it's worth repeating. We Are The Gatekeepers to our kids as rights. Yeah. And we're supposed to be the Watchman on the tower on this.

1:47:12 Hmm. And if, if we don't get our crap together in a big hurry, when we will have to look at our kids one day and explain what it was. That was so important that we couldn't get Moved with this. And we'll have to explain to our god, at some point. Why it is? We sacrificed our children's Liberty on the altars of convenience and entertainment? I think, I think the times of living easier kind of over, right? We have to get involved. We have to be active. We have to be peaceful. That's the other thing.

1:47:54 I would stress, if we go dark and we go violent, we're done. The Republic's done. We cannot go that direction. We have to remain peaceful but stalwart right. I've often looked at Jesus and Gandhi as the models for that, they both won in the end. And they both did it because they were nonviolent. But but they weren't week either. And they, as you said, they threw evil out. And and I think that's Where we're at. But yeah. And I think I really quickly Revelation good, you know, Revelations talks about these last days and some of the things that we're starting starting to see come to pass and I believe Revelations has to happen and God said that it will happen I believe it will. And so I think we're in for a little bit of a rocky road. Things are probably going to get a little bit worse before they get better, but we do know that in the end we win, but we can't win.

1:48:52 If we don't allow him to use us to fulfill his purposes and faith without works is dead. And I've had a lot of People tell me, you know, if there are going to be able to implement all of this stuff in Revelation says that this is going to happen. So why even bother fighting? Because I refuse to look my maker in the face one day and tell him that I didn't do what I came here to do. We do and in the end and we have to fight to keep that light alive. So, yeah, absolutely. Well Chelsea, we've been at this two hours now. Yes, I'm sorry. No, no, that's awesome. I appreciate it. Would you mind coming back on as you discover new stuff? And just give me a call and I'll make time for your whenever you got it.

1:49:36 Yeah. Absolutely. There's a lot there's a lot of stuff to go over for the real quick just so you know, the affordable housing stuff in our state Cox has teamed up directly with Rockefeller on that too. So there's a lot more stuff we can get into, you know, there's a lot more we can get into. So yeah for sure I'll come back and we'll go into, we'll go into some more stuff. Perfect. Well, Chelsea, I appreciate everything you do. I really mean that. I know that that it's not fun, right? It's not something you do because it's a party, right? But it is very necessary and just wherever you're listening it. If you're listening it's for a reason. You didn't happen to just bump into a Mormon fundamentalist podcast and if you're hearing it it's for a reason and that's because time is short.

1:50:27 We got to defend our religion and we got to defend our our system of government with With some real tenacity the the time has come so Chelsea, you're awesome. Stick around for just a second so we can talk off off it for everyone else. Bye everybody. Thanks for listening. You're listening to the one Renegade podcast.