Episode #65: How Close Are We To The Saviors' Return W/Ken Peterson

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Well, here we are.
The economy is shaky.

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We are in at least a proxy war
with Russia.

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China is rattling at Sabre.
Threatening to invade Taiwan

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Canada has begun euthanasia for
depressed, teens, here at home.

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There's a large portion of the
society that thinks gender

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mutilation of our children's, a
good idea.

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Oh, and that's on top of
abortion, still happening.

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It feels like the whole world is
in commotion and descending into

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dark chaos.
Now, it is true that we don't

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know the day or the hour, the
save Fear will make his return,

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but he did give us some signs to
keep a look out for on this

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episode.
I have Ken Peterson back on the

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podcast and our conversation.
We go over a list of signs that

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have been given to watch out for
to get an idea of just how close

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we might be to the savior's
return.

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Now, I'm not a fan of playing
the game pin, the tail on the

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apocalypse, but as we go through
this list, I think you'll see

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we're quite far down that road.
Stick around as we examine last

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Can my man, welcome back, dude.
Thanks for coming back on.

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Yes, but looking forward to it.
So when we got done with our

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last conversation, we were
talking just about like an X

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kind of stuff.
And, and a couple days later

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you'd message me and said, you
know what, I actually have a

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checklist and my eyes lit up
man.

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The car with my wife and I was I
actually I actually you know,

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just kind of leaned back in the
chair because she was driving

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And I was like oh yeah I know
exactly where we're going next.

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No I just find it super
fascinating and for a guy who

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studied as much as you and has
put so much effort into your

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gospel studies.
I'm really looking forward to

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this.
Well, there is nothing more

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appropriate for us to discuss I
think.

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Yeah, in today's world which
seems to feel less and less and

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less stable with each passing
day, but I was listening to one

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of your podcast was no the gas
and you said the word checklist

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and I thought, oh my gosh, I
just put together one of those

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from our gospel Doctrine class.
That's awesome.

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So that's been well, we were in
Isaiah in the Old Testament, you

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know, last year.
Speaking of the end times and

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and I kind of had a mental
checklist but then I thought kid

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for your class funny just put it
all down and then go through the

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list and check off the things
that have happened.

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Things that will happen at the
second coming and the things

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that haven't happened yet and
that will give us a snapshot of

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where we are, and that's what I
did.

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Of course, is called LDS last
days mom has the most complete

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listing I could find and that's
where I do this list from and I

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have links to each of those
Until I print it out, did my key

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to the checks, the red check for
things that have happened.

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Already the blue checks, the
won't happen till Christ comes

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and then the put a plus Mark by
those things that are left and

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we're going to look at that
together at the end here.

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And then you and I are gonna
have to place bets on when we

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think it's going to happen.
Do I like it will get a pool

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going.
Well, just get a pool going,

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will involve the listeners.
I don't, I'm not sure what we're

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actually going to put in that
pool because I mean, money won't

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Be worth anything here, right?
It's just bragging rights alone.

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But so two quick questions for
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One is, would you mind sharing
that list?

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Is that something I can post in
the show?

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No, please do.
Please do.

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Okay, perfect.
And then my next question is you

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get the same kind of feelings?
Like, I do more and more

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frequently, like you're almost
waiting for another shoe to

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drop.
Every day.

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Yeah, everything.
In fact, in my mind I call it

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reading the tea leaves, or
trying to predict how the

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dominoes are going to fall.
Because we're aware of political

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situations, conflicts that are
going on in the world and

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economic things.
You've talked about on your

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podcast and I am constantly
trying to work out how any

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combination of any of those
things could cause The trauma of

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the tribulation that has been
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How I am not a fatalist.
I'm not a doomsday or but I am a

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Latter-Day Saint.
I do believe and and I don't

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relish terrible things
happening.

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I was in a depression when
Russia invaded Ukraine.

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I just I was in a depression for
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Why are they, why are they so
stupid?

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What could they possibly hope to
accomplish in the law?

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Ang renewal that kind of stuff
bothers me, but My heart says if

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Christ is going to come, bring
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Let's get it over with.
Let's do this, right?

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You and your kind of like I am,
right?

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Well, and what part of it is
just laziness.

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I'm not going to lie about that,
right?

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Like when the end times come, it
seems like a lot of work, right?

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Ken.
But yeah, I mean when, when

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those end times come, I've often
thought You know, I'm going to

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be down in the basement tearing
into my year supply of Doritos,

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right?
That's going to be my go Q

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Supply.
Right?

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What is it with you and Doritos?
And I don't know, man.

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It's just good stuff, right?
I don't know.

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It's, it really is manna from
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I'm waiting for Revelation on
that further, but it should be,

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but anyway.
Yeah, no.

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I, yeah, my kids will be like,
where's Dad?

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Well, I think he's licking the
Dorito dust off of his fingers

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down in the basement.
He's trying to cope, right?

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So but Yeah, no.
It's it is it's a weird time and

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and I don't remember time quite
like this right where there's

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sometimes I look and I think
we're a hair's breadth away.

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It could really only take one
event to cause all of that

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tribulation.
We've read about.

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I don't think I can remember a
time where it.

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Everything felt just tenuous.
Yes.

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Like, I could wait a minute,
it's hearts are failing.

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And you see that?
Yep, I could wake up tomorrow

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and if the economy had plunged
down 5,000 points, it wouldn't

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surprise me, right?
I'd be like, that's about right,

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we're about there.
And there are they surprised

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that we're still thriving as
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I know, obviously, I know, I
thought the punishment this

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economy's taken I know, and I
keep.

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So, I keep waiting for that.
And then you got all the war,

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you know, the wars going on
there and Ukraine and Russia and

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China's rattling.
Its Sabers I just read today

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that we're sending some
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Taiwan then and it's just all
kind of lining up right?

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And and I look at that and I'm
like okay times getting short

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you know let's let's strap in
and let's buckle up and let's

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get ready for whatever is
whatever is going to happen.

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So I feel like this checklist
idea is great because I don't

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think God deals with time the
same way we write.

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I think, right?
I think, when you're talking

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about last day's events, I think
the key word there is events,

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right?
When you pass this mile marker

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on the highway to Armageddon, so
to speak.

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Yeah, point it's going to be and
that's why it's the checklist

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girl.
Yeah, I don't think anybody's

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ever been successful with pin
the tail on the apocalypse,

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right?
Yeah, it is a loser's game.

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You know, there are a number of
those circulating on YouTube,

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some really good ones.
Don't need any my favorite who

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would really worked out the time
in the signs, and he wasn't

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claiming that his was the
answer, but it was pretty

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compelling.
So I kept that with me and was

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sitting back my charity popcorn
thinking 2021 was going to be

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the Midway Point, never
happened.

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Yep.
Sounds like, oh, shoot, you

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know, here we go.
But and that was before my

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checklist.
Okay.

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So, I know a little better now.
And I don't want to give it away

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yet, but there is one sign that
is the alarm Bell.

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That has a very specific amount
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It's a very obvious sign and a
very specific amount of time

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left associated with it.
That's, that's the one I'm

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waiting for.
We'll talk to them.

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Thank you before we go there
with the what and the win, I

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think it's important.
We talk about the why?

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Because I have many people in my
circle of friends and neighbors

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who are not necessarily Really
comfortable talking about all of

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this.
They say they believe it's

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pointless.
You know.

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No man knoweth the day or the
hour.

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Why worry about it?
Well I want to tell you tell you

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why worry about it.
Can you enable the screen

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sharing?
Absolutely give me just one

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second here to bring this bad
boy up and all participants.

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And you should be ready to rock
my men.

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Thank you.
So, I love what the hell.

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The doctrine covenants talks
about what we're talking about?

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It's called a great and Dreadful
day of the Lord, which is

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critical.
Jesus Christ, gave us the, why

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learn the parable of the fig
tree with branches tender and

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putteth forth leaves, you know
that summer is nigh.

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So likewise ye when ye shall
see.

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All these things know that it is
near.

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Even at the doors verily, I say
unto you this generation, which

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has been misinterpreted.
He's talking about the

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generation.
He's talking about, right?

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Yes, we would say that
generation shall not pass till

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all these things be fulfilled.
But of that day and hour

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knoweth, no man, no, not the
angels of heaven, but my father

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only.
But he says, we need to be aware

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of that.
So we can at least recognize the

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season.
It's happening.

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Now are turning Covenant 6011
unto.

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You, it shall be given to know
the signs of the times and the

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signs of the coming of the son
of man.

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Right, it's important, Joseph
Smith, Matthew the old, I speak

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these things and he for the
elects sake, and you also shall

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hear of wars and rumors of wars.
See that you be not troubled for

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all I have told you must come to
pass, but the end is not yet.

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One of the reasons we have, this
signs is so that our hearts will

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not fail us.
Anyway, going on first Nephi

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2022, 17, wherefore, he will
preserve the righteous by his

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power even if even, if it's will
be the fullness of his Wrath.

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To come, which is what will
happen.

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It is coming.
It will meet reservists time

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times will be cut short,
otherwise it would self-destruct

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and the righteous be preserved.
Even at the destruction of their

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enemies.
By fire, that will cleanse the

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Earth where for the righteous
need, not fear for thus, saith

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the prophet, they shall be saved
even if it's obvious by fire.

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So, the other reason the sides
are given is the the righteous

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will not fear when these
terrible things will inevitably

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occur.
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Mormonism encapsulates.
What we've been talking about?

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A particular interest is the
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fullness of times, our science
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Christ.
The lord has revealed the signs

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of the time to guide the
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for the great and Dreadful day
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second coming here.
Thus the faithful, the faithful

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watch for the signs, so that
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great.
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To us.
Yep and so when I have older

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children who are necessarily
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us, there's concern and Dread
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in.
This world, everything is upside

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down evil being called, good and
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That the restored gospel in the
signs of the times, give us the

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millennial era which to a
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right?
That's the greatest of all fairy

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tales when you read about the
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Earth.
It will be beyond anything we

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can imagine.
In that section, in my book that

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we talked about, you know,
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terrestrial state.
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I said part of the reason I
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the my own kids won't have to go
to the hill that that will

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precede.
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That's where this is coming from
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wrote a very interesting and
timely article back in 2014

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about five myths, concerning the
second coming, which I think

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have misled some people.
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misleading Concepts,
unsupportable ideas, miss that

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persist among our members.
Recently, I wrote a five myths

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about the Millennium, let me now
suggests a mistake, your Notions

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have encountered about the
second coming of Price, when I

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think it's when we go into these
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think you'll recognize some of
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Number one.
Every person on Earth will have

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heard the message of the
restored gospel before the Lord

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returns in glory.
You hear that a lot, right?

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People use it as a cop out so
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he's coming.
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opportunity to hear it, but that
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Millennium.
And if you hear other comments

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from General Authorities, that
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every nation even if not
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But he makes the point in
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which is really missionary work,
the process by which people are

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brought together to Christ.
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church and to the congregation's
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It will go forward in the great
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Every word and were already
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We wouldn't have that work to do
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wait for that.
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sense, right.
Because if we look at his first

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coming, especially in the Book
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preaching of the Gospel going
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It's absolutely, you know, it
all that the scriptures tell us

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if I'm not mistaken from The
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wicked were destroyed now.
Can you be can you be a good

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person and not be a Mormon?
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Right.
So so this idea that that will

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be the only ones around in the
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I think is Kind of a that's
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right?
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great works of the millennial
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Who are going to be preaching to

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ourselves and Brigham actually
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Millennium happens and even Zion
is that there will be people who

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who don't necessarily believe
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And we'll still have to continue
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And so, yeah, the the idea that
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that get through that period.
I think is maybe a little bit of

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a misnomer.
We may have a leg up, right?

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Because we kind of know what to
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necessarily negate.
The fact that we, you know, have

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some work to do.
Here's the unfortunate truth

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right now as fundamentalists and
traditional LDS folks, we can't

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expect to have accurate history
told by others because true

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history and scholarship is
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And organizations, we're going
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ourselves and to do that, we
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in this kind of work.
Now, anybody who's anybody in

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fundamentalist, circles knows
who drew Briny is, he is perhaps

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the most prolific author.
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Drew's newest project is
something.

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I think all Mormons can benefit
from he is in the process of

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creating an annotated version of
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Once you have a copy of this,
you'll be able to compare

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current sections with previous
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And also what early LDS leaders
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Folks, we are constantly trying
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the early Brethren this project,
that drusen Aged in right now is

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going to be the ultimate tool to
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Covenants is such a massive
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help from others, Drew's plan
for getting this annotated

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version of the Doctrine and
Covenants out is through

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crowdfunding the link for that
will be out April 4th if you

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want more details sooner, go to
Drew's Facebook page and

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messaging from there and he'll
give you all the details further

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on Saturday.
April 8, I'll be releasing an

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Greater detail.
So please if you feel impressed

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to do so and have the means I'd
humbly ask that you reach out to

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Drew and support this project,
that will help Advance the

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scholarship and true doctrine of
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All right, so this whole idea of
us having to quote unquote.

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Walk back to Zion Jackson County
Independence.

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Before Christ comes is
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Joseph F Smith was a statement.
He made way.

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Back in 1882.
He was an apostle in 1877.

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I suppose I could read it when
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Jackson County, how will he do
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Let me picture to you how some
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Jackson County.
I think I see two or three

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hundred thousand people wending
their way across the Great Plain

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in during the nameless hardships
of the journey herding and

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guarding their cattle by day.
And by night, this is one way to

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look at it.
It is certainly a practical

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View.
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So he's giving possibilities and
clearly speaking

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extemporaneously, but, like I
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don't take a stand, isolated
statement and turn it into a

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whole Doctrine from.
It's just a couple of reasons

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why that cannot be a complete
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First of all, the Book of
Revelation gives us the

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dimensions of the city of Zion.
This Revelation 21 16, the city

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lieth Foursquare.
The length is as large as the

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breath, he measured the city,
with the Reed, twelve thousand

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furlongs, the length, and the
breadth, and the height are

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equal, so it's 12,000 furlongs
square that is equal to 1000 380

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miles.
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whole of North America.
So when we think, unless we're

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standing in Jackson County,
we're not in PSI and we are

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misinformed.
We're in Zion right now.

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whole of North America, which
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Of course, zionists are the pure
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city itself, Which would make
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Yeah.
That when the saints moved to

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the Rocky Mountains, which was
prophesied, that the mountain of

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the Lord's house, shall be
established in the tops of the

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mountains, which Inuit language
is Utah, right?

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Yeah.
Which name is not assigned by

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the Saints.
It was assigned by Congress that

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we're here already, we're where
we need to be, you know,

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certainly there with the same as
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Yeah, go ahead and others like
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Help us out with our own
prophecies.

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I'm just Haha.
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the book of ether.
Highly authoritative.

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Hmm.
I've never really heard anybody

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deal with this because the book
of ether makes the sequence of

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events, crystal clear, and there
shall be a new Heaven and a new

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Earth, and they shall be likened
to the old.

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Save, the old have passed away
and all things have become new

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and then cometh New Jerusalem.
Mmm, so the New Jerusalem will

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not be re-established until
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new Earth, meaning the Earth has
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And that's how do you get around
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No, it wouldn't make sense to
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Anyway, the gonna build up this
wonderful City in the center,

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State can Jackson County and
build his magnificent Temple as

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described by Joseph Smith.
Others only to have it burned,

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it is coming anyway, right?
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So I'm not waiting for that to
happen, first myth, number

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three, myth number three.
That the faithful Saints will be

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spared The Trials.
Come out calamities and changes

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that will come upon the world
before the Savior comes.

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Yes, Be safety in Zion, but as
Christ taught in the New

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Testament, the rain falls upon
the wicked and the righteous,

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and it's not necessarily whether
you live or die, it's whether

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you live or die in
righteousness, if number for,

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you know, fruit for just a
second, going back to that other

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one.
I find it fascinating that that

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Mormons are so uniquely
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Christendom when it comes to our
theology.

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But for whatever reason, we
decided we wanted to borrow So

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from the Rapture and I have
never been able to figure that

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out, because because this idea
that we're all spared you, I

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mean, the assertion that's made
and I looked into it quite a

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bit, you know, in my religious
Journey before I became a

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Mormon, when I say, okay, where
do you get this?

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And they use that scripture out
of the New Testament, you know,

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there were two in the field who
were harvesting and then one was

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taken or whatever.
I'm like, that's an awfully

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strong statement to make based
on what seems to be a very

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subjective kind of scripture.
And, but for some reason, we

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seem to want to have borrowed
that, I don't know if they're

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kind of like me and they're
like, huh, seems like a lot of

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work, I'm not sure I'm down for
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Well, my friend, the Rapture is
confirmed in the restored.

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Revelations, really forgot.
The Rapture is discussed in the

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Doctrine and Covenants and in
the book of Moses in some great

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detail.
We will be caught up in the air

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to meet him when he comes, and
there's a very specific reason

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for that.
The Earth will be burned at his

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coming.
You'll Testament says, the Earth

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will burn as an oven and all the
all the wicked will be burned as

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stumble and okay, so let me let
me preface, let me go back.

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So I don't think I made my point
clear and that's on me.

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A lot of Christianity will say,
you'll be caught up before any

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of the tribulation.
Oh yes, yes.

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I see what you're saying.
Sorry, so I didn't make myself

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clear, no, I believe in this
idea of being caught up.

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But yeah, of a Protestant
Rapture where you're taken out

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of all of that before the
tribulation starts.

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I feel having enough for ya.
I find nothing in the scripture.

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That supports that idea.
I agree with you, I agree with

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you. my favorite reference to
being caught up in the book of

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Moses chapter 7, Starting at
verse 61 the day, she'll come to

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the Earth, shall rest.
We're talking about Millennium,

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but before that day, the heavens
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The veil of Darkness will cover
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Darkness is wickedness and the
heavens shall shake and also the

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Earth and great tribulations
shall be among the children of

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men, but my people will, I
preserve and righteousness.

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Will I send down out of heaven?
Right.

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Mormon and Truth.
Well, I sent forth out of the

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earth.
I'm sorry.

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That was the angel in the tooth
out of Justice Book of Mormon to

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Bear testimony of mine.
Only begotten his resurrection

452
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:09,700
from the dead, but also the
resurrection of all men and

453
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:12,900
righteousness.
And truth will I cause to sweep

454
00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:17,400
the Earth as with a flood to
gather out, mine elect from the

455
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,800
four quarters of the earth
Gathering of Israel, the

456
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,800
weekend, the tears, the New
Testament originally and Matthew

457
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:28,800
says that they will gather the
tears Joseph Smith changing

458
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,100
around in a Joe Smith visited to
gather the wheat into the barn,

459
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:35,400
leaving the tears and then burn
the tears.

460
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,400
Well, this is Sophia says
exactly the same thing.

461
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,700
Joseph Smith said to my book it
was super exciting find out but

462
00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:49,200
Now here's the interesting part
to me to gather mine gather are

463
00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:50,600
not.
Mine elect from the four

464
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,700
quarters of the earth unto a
place, which I shall prepare.

465
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:57,500
So the righteous will be caught
up.

466
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:01,000
But we're not just going to be
floating around while all this

467
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,700
is happening.
We're going to be taken to a

468
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:06,600
place.
It says, which I shall prepare

469
00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:09,600
and holy city that my people
make gird up.

470
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,600
Their loins prepare and be
looking forth for the time of my

471
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,500
coming.
For there shall be my Tabernacle

472
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:19,200
and it should be called Zion a
New Jerusalem and the Lord said

473
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,400
unto Enoch, then this time when
were caught up now, Enoch and I

474
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,200
City will meet them there,
right?

475
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,800
And we will receive them into
our bosom.

476
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000
So, when their actions are cut
up where they going to go,

477
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,700
you're going to go to me Enoch
and his City so which, which

478
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:43,200
would, which would explain why
did God go to all the trouble to

479
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:47,200
to lift up an entire city,
right?

480
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,300
Because the end game that had to
be someplace for the Rapture.

481
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:54,300
And let's call them to hang out
while the Earth is cleansed,

482
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,900
right?
Raishin for the restoration

483
00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:59,500
anyway.
That's incredible to me that

484
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:04,500
that is and Yeah, this idea and
they shall see us.

485
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:07,500
Go ahead.
Oh, I was just finishing the

486
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:11,500
scripture and we will receive
them into our bosom, says

487
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:15,100
unique, and his City and they
shall see us, we will fall upon

488
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:17,400
the next and they shall fall
upon an X and we will kiss each

489
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,500
other not in a weird way.
Sure?

490
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,900
Right.
And there shall be mine Abode

491
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:26,800
and it shall be Zion and which
shall come forth out of all the

492
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,000
Creations that I've made for the
space of a thousand years.

493
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,600
The earth has but Can you
imagine the celebration and the

494
00:28:33,608 --> 00:28:38,500
rejoicing of the people of the
city of Munich and bid, people

495
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:40,700
like me and you who are going to
get caught up, right?

496
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:44,000
I hope so.
I never count my chickens before

497
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200
they hatch can write, write,
write write.

498
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,400
But yeah, I definitely hope to
be in that.

499
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:55,300
Cuz, and, and I thought about
this, I think for for us, it'll

500
00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:58,800
be Be almost a homecoming,
right?

501
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,900
When when Zion below meet Zion
above so to speak, right?

502
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:06,800
Design of type people And they
meet.

503
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,600
We're going to feel a certain
Kindred.

504
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,600
Did I think none of us have felt
before, right?

505
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,500
I don't know about you but and
this isn't me, you know, saying

506
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:20,400
I'm super righteous because I'm
not, I have my faults but there

507
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,600
are times where I actually feel
kind of out of place in this

508
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,400
world, right?
Especially, yeah.

509
00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:27,000
Alright.
Gosh.

510
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,800
Yes.
Where I look and again, I'm not

511
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,600
saying I'm super righteous or
any of those other things.

512
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,900
I'm just saying that That there
are times because of the things

513
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,500
that I believe that I just look
around the world and what's

514
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:42,900
going on.
And I'm like, I don't recognize

515
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,600
this, I can't, I can't relate to
this.

516
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:52,500
I can't I can't fathom this to
and so this idea of of when Zion

517
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,900
below meet Zion above, I think
it's going to be kind of a

518
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:58,100
homecoming, right?
I think it's going to be one of

519
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:01,200
those things where it's going to
feel familiar in some way.

520
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,900
Well, I think we have a taste of
that line.

521
00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:05,500
Me.
You and I have yet to meet in

522
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:09,000
person and every time we visit
life, the less that similar

523
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,100
kinship.
Yep.

524
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,200
Because we value the same
things.

525
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,200
Yep.
In any case?

526
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:17,400
So Joseph Smith explained it is
a false idea that the Saints

527
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,000
will escape all the judgments
while the wicked suffer.

528
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:23,400
Yep, he cant get more authority
to coerce hated from that.

529
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:29,000
So of course, the Saints has a
body will have to be preserved,

530
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,900
carry on throughout the
Millennium but that every single

531
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,000
one of us will be preserved as
not.

532
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:38,200
The the promise, myth number
four, if we live the gospel and

533
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,600
purify, Our Lives, we can hasten
the Lord's coming and Usher in

534
00:30:41,608 --> 00:30:45,900
the Glorious millennium.
The second the day of the second

535
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:51,700
coming of the Lord lording in
glory, is fixed and I'm quoting

536
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:54,400
or to be Hinckley.
I like a lot, I'm Bruce

537
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,900
mcconkie.
So, the day of this The Lord in

538
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:02,800
glory is fixed.
I noticed when Christ says the

539
00:31:02,808 --> 00:31:05,300
day nor the hour knoweth, no man
on my Father, which is Evan, the

540
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:08,300
date was already know.
Of course, it is, God knows

541
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:10,900
everything.
Just as the day of his first

542
00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:13,100
coming was not an Isaiah or
nephite admitted.

543
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:16,100
I did not call upon the people
to repent, so the Holy One

544
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:17,800
visual content into mortality
sooner.

545
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,900
The second coming may not be
postponed by unbridled witness

546
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:24,700
wickedness, nor hurried by
consummate righteousness.

547
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:26,700
The god of Heaven has ordained
that day.

548
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,900
The prophets of old.
Dispensations have spoken of it.

549
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:36,300
We know not when it will come
but it's Dawning is certain Last

550
00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:38,900
two minutes, no one not even the
most faithful Saints.

551
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:40,900
A good.
ODD will know the time of the

552
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:43,200
savior's return.
That's a myth.

553
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:44,500
What?
What is he saying?

554
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,100
We're told in the Bible, is the
Lord.

555
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:50,000
Jesus Christ will come as a
thief in the night.

556
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,000
That is he will come suddenly
unexpectedly when the generality

557
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,200
of humankind is unprepared
unready.

558
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,200
Not watching this need not,
however be the case with the

559
00:32:00,208 --> 00:32:03,400
Lord Saints.
A master clarified and again

560
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,000
verily I said either coming or
draweth nigh and it overtake us

561
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,300
the world as a thief in the
night.

562
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:10,200
Therefore gird up your loins,
which is a way of saying,

563
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,100
prepare yourselves that you may
be the children of light, that,

564
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:18,800
that day.
Shall not overtake you as a

565
00:32:18,808 --> 00:32:21,800
thief.
We may not know the specific

566
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,400
hour or the day with the Lord
would come but we can know the

567
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,700
season.
Mmm, he goes on those who are

568
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:32,300
wise and have received the
truth.

569
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:35,800
He's quoting Parable.
The parable of the ten virgins

570
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000
and I'm taking the holy spirit
for the guide and have not been

571
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,400
deceived will sense, and
recognize The Nearness of the

572
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,000
Return of the King of kings and
Lord of lords.

573
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:46,300
The spiritually sensitive
members of the Lord's Church

574
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:50,400
Body of Christ will be in a
Readiness to read the signs.

575
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:54,400
And thus, pre-prepared, even
enthusiastic seems a little

576
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,600
weird that day that has been.
Bribed as both.

577
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,200
Great and Dreadful.
Yeah.

578
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,200
Now let me pause for just a
second, people like Boyd pack or

579
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,000
who lived through the second
world war.

580
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:10,300
They thought that was the end of
times, right?

581
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,500
And who wouldn't can you
imagine?

582
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:15,000
I mean, when I, when I see
documentaries at the Second

583
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,800
World War, I it's mind-boggling
to me.

584
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:19,200
And that's why we had this
checklist.

585
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,000
What's different about now?
Compared to then we will see

586
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:28,900
here it is.
Okay, I'm pretty sure you can't

587
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:31,700
see all that, but let me and
it's two pages.

588
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:35,600
Will go over both Pages at the
key is at the very top.

589
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:37,500
Yep.
We I can see, we can see that.

590
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:40,800
Yep, but I've checked in red,
are things that have happened

591
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,300
and this is just, this is
subjective, and I don't speak

592
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:48,800
authoritatively.
This is just my opinion and the

593
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,200
blue.
Check marks are the things that

594
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,900
will not happen, until he
arrives.

595
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,600
And then, the plus marks the
things that are not done yet.

596
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,000
Those are the things for which
Which we are specifically

597
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,700
waiting, okay?
There's another thought I was

598
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:04,500
going to say about all of this.
It'll come to me.

599
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:13,500
So as we go down the list and by
the way, play I want to point

600
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:19,300
out up here for those listening.
The website with is a source for

601
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:26,699
this list LDS last days.
Dot-com.com, I searched around

602
00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:31,199
the internet, and this is where
I found most of these signs on

603
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,300
the second page.
Those are taken from Mormon

604
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:39,400
Doctrine.
Mmm, that was McConkey, again,

605
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,900
144,000, high priest.
That will happen when he comes

606
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,800
the abomination of desolation,
is one of the things are waiting

607
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,699
for Adam.
And I almond will he comes.

608
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,300
Additional scripture to come
forth, check.

609
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,000
It's done.
The arm of the Lord will be

610
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,800
revealed.
I believe that's happened.

611
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,700
Yep.
At evening time, it shall be

612
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:09,400
light.
Hasn't happened yet.

613
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,600
Battle of Armageddon.
Not yet Battle of Gog, and

614
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,800
Magog, not yet the Beast, and
the little horn.

615
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:18,500
I don't think that's happened
yet.

616
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,100
Boston, New York and Alban you
destroyed.

617
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,200
By the way, on that website, you
can click on each one of those

618
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,000
signs.
And it will take you to the

619
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,100
scriptural or authoritative
source and talks about each and

620
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,600
every one of these sites.
If you have you, Alicia's real

621
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,900
quick can.
There's a couple questions I'm

622
00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:37,800
going to have running down this
list.

623
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,600
Of course, you know just because
I'm curious.

624
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,300
What what what you think it
could be?

625
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:44,700
What do you think?
The abomination of desolation is

626
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,100
The aftermath just utter
destruction.

627
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:57,800
The aftermath of utter
destruction.

628
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:03,300
Okay, beyond that.
I wish I could say but I don't,

629
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:06,500
I don't know that.
I understand it personally any

630
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:16,100
better than that?
oh, Battle of Armageddon.

631
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:20,300
We know is the great last battle
which will be fought in the

632
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:23,900
valley of megiddo which is the
northern border of Israel.

633
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:28,600
You have Lebanon where we are.
I mean, is it has velocity keeps

634
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,000
fire.
Firing missiles into Israel from

635
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,200
the north.
Yep.

636
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,500
And that is where the nations of
the earth will gather to fight

637
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:39,500
one or the other.
And so when we see forces start

638
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:42,200
gathering around that Valley,
that's that's a pretty good

639
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,400
sign.
Boston, New York and Albany

640
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,100
destroyed.
Does that Wilfred woodruff's?

641
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,700
Horrendous Vision?
Well, that was it, that's a

642
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:53,400
terrible thing.
It was it down that was either

643
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,700
Taylor or Woodruff II know
Taylor, had a pretty

644
00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,700
devastating, that's hard one to
read.

645
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,500
That is a very hard one to read.
And yet, every time I go into a

646
00:37:05,508 --> 00:37:11,100
Megapolis, like I'm driving down
to Phoenix and you have 12 Lanes

647
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:14,900
of traffic going in both
directions, right, feeding that

648
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:17,800
Megapolis.
If something were to happen to

649
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,400
any of those Megapolis has where
those arteries were severed, and

650
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,200
those Megapolis is were not
being fed on a daily basis chaos

651
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,800
would ensue and it's not a
pretty thing to consider but you

652
00:37:29,808 --> 00:37:32,400
can see how that vision would be
fulfilled, right?

653
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,400
And and okay in five seconds
you're going to want to cover.

654
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,900
Your kids is a little years or
pause this and show him out of

655
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:45,100
the room.
Five four, three, two, one, In

656
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:48,800
that vision.
And there's a story I'm going to

657
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,400
tell along with this in that
Vision Taylor basically sees

658
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,200
cannibalism right?
And it's the worst kind its

659
00:37:56,300 --> 00:38:01,300
parent on child and I always
thought that's crazy.

660
00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:02,700
There's no way that could
happen.

661
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:05,400
And then I remembered an
experience.

662
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,600
I had when I was living back
East, we got hired to do some

663
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,800
mapping inside Central Park and
the civil engineering firm that

664
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,500
we were Contracting with was in
one of those high-rises.

665
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,600
And I remember after the meeting
was done, it was the strangest

666
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,100
thing.
Can, I was actually just

667
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:27,000
enjoying the city lights,
because it was just getting Dusk

668
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,600
and the lights were coming on.
And, and you could see people

669
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:37,400
just kind of moving down below
But this thought out of nowhere,

670
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,800
I mean.
Nowhere can came into my mind,

671
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:45,500
and it was, it was just this.
When, when everything goes

672
00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:49,900
horribly wrong, this city will
eat each other.

673
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:55,200
And I and then it was months
later, I actually discovered

674
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,800
that that Revelation, but it
just doesn't seem feasible and

675
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,100
we saw a little bit of that
during during covid, right?

676
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,600
There comes a point at which
these as you call them Megatron,

677
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:14,400
palaces just aren't sustainable
and and I, you know, we could be

678
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,700
there. it wouldn't take much,
no, I mean, and he, I hear

679
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:23,600
stories like the Las Vegas for
example, where People in law

680
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,800
enforcement, they're real
secretly confess that they are

681
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,100
overwhelmed on a daily basis.
Yep, the letting criminals go

682
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:34,200
because they can't keep them.
Yep.

683
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:37,600
And every time I drive by 15,
through Vegas, or into Vegas,

684
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,800
for whatever reason, I get that
same feeling of uneasiness that

685
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,900
the city is hanging by a thread.
And I don't, I don't glory in

686
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:46,800
that.
I don't like that.

687
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,200
And just, I'm just sharing that
feeling that I get regarding

688
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,100
cannibalism in Scripture.
That is always the ultimate sin,

689
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,700
that precedes, the destruction
of a given civilization.

690
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:59,200
Yep.
That was true.

691
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,700
It was true at the time of Noah,
it was true.

692
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,400
At the time of the Nephites
cannibalism proceeded their

693
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,800
demise.
A bit, is the ultimate

694
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:13,000
aberration of the nahan
principal murdering to get gain.

695
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,700
And if the purpose of the Plan
of Salvation is to bring to pass

696
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:20,900
the immortality and eternal life
of man, cannibalism is the worst

697
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,900
We got whom the children of God
upon your own lusts.

698
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:27,700
It's a terrible thing and if
you're depraved goblins people,

699
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:31,100
why wouldn't you well, yeah, and
a lock of alien thing.

700
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,700
Yeah.
And and You know, to go along

701
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:37,400
with that it.
If you look back in Israel's

702
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,500
history, the Lord gets fed up
with Israel, is specifically

703
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:47,300
around the time of Lehi, when we
High makes his exit, when the

704
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:50,000
people are worshipping Maalik,
right?

705
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,500
Where they are rolling children
into the belly of this Beast

706
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:57,700
sacrifice and then consuming the
Flesh in a Twisted Sacrament.

707
00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:03,300
And so yeah, that that's
absolutely When God says enough.

708
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,700
And there's there's some other
things.

709
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,100
That that I think, you know, tie
into that without the actual

710
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,400
consumption as we think about
it, but I think it, I think some

711
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,500
of that in a scientific way,
could could totally happen.

712
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:24,400
Yeah.
Those are the things about the

713
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,600
second coming that I don't like
to think about.

714
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,800
I know I look forward to what it
means, and I'm also happy to say

715
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,600
that these times of tribulation
our brief.

716
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,400
Yep.
God does not go.

717
00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:39,800
God's desire is not for his
children to suffer, right?

718
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,400
Because of agency.
He lie has to allow the wicked

719
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:45,000
to suffer the consequences of
their choices.

720
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:48,200
Let me ask you this, what do you
make of Gog and Magog?

721
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:54,900
Who do you?
Let me just say it like this.

722
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:59,200
Who do you think they are?
Because I've heard a couple of

723
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:07,300
different opinions you first So
I've heard that Gog is the ruler

724
00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:13,600
and may God is a country.
I'm not sure I buy into that

725
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,300
wholeheartedly.
The one that makes more sense to

726
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:21,800
me is that they're two separate
countries who are aligned and

727
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,700
this is going back, clear into
the late 90s.

728
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:31,500
But I went to a seminar put on
by an LDS scholar.

729
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:37,200
I won't name names but he made a
very compelling case that Gog

730
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,600
and Magog could be China and
Russia which during that time

731
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,500
seemed Silly right.
That that that would ever happen

732
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,000
except for maybe right about now
is Karen.

733
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,800
Yeah, so straight out of the
Bible dictionary going along

734
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:59,500
those lines a prophecy about God
was the king of Magog.

735
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,500
Who's invasion of Israel was
prophesied by Zeke prophecy

736
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:06,700
points to a time when the heat
the nations of the north would

737
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:09,400
set themselves against the
people of God and would be

738
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,100
defeated, then led to recognize,
Jehovah's King, all this appears

739
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:15,200
to be at the second coming of
the Lord.

740
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,900
Another battle called The Battle
of Gog and Magog will occur at

741
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:24,400
the end of the Thousand Years.
Hmm, so we know that the end of

742
00:43:24,408 --> 00:43:27,400
the Millennium that Satan and
his forces will be released for

743
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,200
a little season, so that they
can be finally.

744
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:35,600
Pushed right to lead us into the
8,000 year which will never talk

745
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,900
about this kind of like wrapping
up the whole thing, right?

746
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:45,400
Any case So the Battle of Gog
and Magog is we talk about

747
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,100
relative, this incoming.
According to the Bible

748
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,400
dictionary, is the final
Conflict.

749
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,100
At the end of the Millennium,
when Satan be loosed for a

750
00:43:53,107 --> 00:43:56,800
little season.
Okay, anyway, all right,

751
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:59,100
Celestial city is Celeste
realized Earth.

752
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:01,800
We know that what happened yet.
That won't happen till well,

753
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,900
after the Millennium, the
chastisement of the sayings has

754
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:07,400
that happened yet?
Yes.

755
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,500
Well Christ appears.
Oh.

756
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:16,800
That's what I wanted to say.
sometimes I get these

757
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,300
conversations about the second
coming of the savior, people

758
00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:23,800
will look at me sliding table,
which coming are you talking

759
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,600
about, right?
Or how do you know, he hasn't

760
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,700
already come?
Yes, there are many prophecies

761
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:35,100
and accounts of him appearing at
various places and times.

762
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,800
None of which are the coming
that we are talking about and

763
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,100
I'll point this out, the person
said, I recognize that some

764
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:45,200
would say, he's come already in
the first Vision in the temple

765
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,600
and Kirtland, Etc.
But that's not the coming, we're

766
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,600
talking about where he said.
His foot upon the Mount of

767
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,500
Olives, the Earth is cleansed as
my flyer in this in the

768
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:56,300
Millennia begins.
That's what we're talking about,

769
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:59,400
right, right.
They'll be various appearances

770
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,600
associated with that before and
after but what we're talking

771
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,000
about right now is the cleansing
of the Earth ushering in of the

772
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,200
millennial period.
So all of those Christ

773
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:14,800
appearances won't happen until
he comes the Constitution, hangs

774
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,800
by a thread.
Check.

775
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:22,000
Check How many how many
different ways is that been

776
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,000
fulfilled?
You know.

777
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,300
Yep.
I mean we talked about the

778
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:30,400
election hijinks we could talk
about abuse is, of course, High

779
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,700
Court.
Oh yeah.

780
00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:35,000
We can talk about it.
Abuses of executive power,

781
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:37,100
executive orders.
That's it.

782
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,000
When he thinks he's a king.
I'm just going to forgive all of

783
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
your Dad.
How about who do you think you

784
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,300
are?
It's really got to me sucker.

785
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:59,000
Anyway.
David, the prince Yeah, this

786
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,600
link Scourge not quite yet.
Earth shall be removed.

787
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,600
That one happened to later
Herschel met with heat, that

788
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,000
would have until Christ comes
earthquake at the battle of

789
00:46:07,008 --> 00:46:10,800
Armageddon.
Not yet earthquakes at the death

790
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,700
of two witnesses, We'll talk
about that some more, not yet.

791
00:46:16,700 --> 00:46:19,600
Earthquakes in divers places.
Check, I think so.

792
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,900
Sure Elders will be called home.
I went covid struck.

793
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:27,800
Right?
And the missionary work was put

794
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,800
on pause and our own.
I lost his trumpet.

795
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:32,600
Yep.
Yep.

796
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,300
It's dry.
Like I figured wow, that's a

797
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:37,100
sign.
Yeah, that the missionary work

798
00:46:37,107 --> 00:46:40,400
is be put on pause.
The temple work has been put on

799
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,300
pause.
Have your in covid.

800
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:43,800
Did it ever get a little long
for you?

801
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,600
I remember there were times.
I was thinking.

802
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,600
I'm ready?
For the next part of the

803
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,600
Apocalypse because this is
getting old.

804
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:53,400
So, yep.
That at first, it was shocking

805
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,200
and surprising.
Yeah, I am.

806
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,100
I modernism, I thought I didn't
believe anything like that could

807
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:03,200
happen to us nowadays because of
modern medicine.

808
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,600
Boy, was I wrong boy.
It was and it was kind of in a

809
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,900
strange way exciting first
because I've never experienced

810
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:13,800
anything like this but after a
while saying this is not fun.

811
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:16,800
Yeah, you know, go back to
church.

812
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,900
I want to be with my choir and I
want to meet with people, I want

813
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:26,300
to shake hands again, you know,
I I honestly think Ken that that

814
00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:29,700
was supposed to be a time of
reflection for us, right?

815
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:33,000
Almost like a shot across the
bow because here's what we

816
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,600
discovered.
That's what they're telling us

817
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,800
to General Conference.
This is a warning, is there, is

818
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:44,500
that This exposed families right
now.

819
00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:50,100
I was very I was I was
pleasantly surprised we get as

820
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:53,500
well as we did all cooped up
together so to speak, right?

821
00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:58,000
But I know of several families
who didn't fare well at all,

822
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:04,200
that just kind of all the things
that were maybe issues that

823
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,600
hadn't been resolved were
exacerbated, right?

824
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,100
And I felt like that this was a
time I'm when if you have those

825
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:14,800
things, good time to work on it
and if you saw faults within

826
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,900
your family, maybe it's time to
fix it and I'm not sure we

827
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:21,200
heeded that call real well as a
people.

828
00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:29,300
Well, and we see that in times
of trial, the was it?

829
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,600
Let me go.
I'm gets tough, the tough get

830
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,600
going because it's kind of their
Watershed events you had our

831
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:42,200
trials for the faithful.
The, for example, membership

832
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,000
activity within the LDS church
has altered significantly

833
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:49,300
because of covid.
Right are people who just didn't

834
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:53,000
come back.
None of it surprises me if

835
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,200
you're familiar with the parable
of the ten virgins, thanks for

836
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,300
Kibble and self.
Interpreted the parable of the

837
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:02,100
ten virgins of the ten virgins
for the righteous endowed

838
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:05,400
Latter-Day Saints, right?
They were virgins had the

839
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,000
wedding garment and they had an
invitation to the east.

840
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,400
The only thing they didn't have
was enough light to not be

841
00:49:11,408 --> 00:49:15,300
deceived and made the most of,
all right?

842
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:19,100
Let's see.
Earth shall be removed.

843
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:21,600
That will happen after Earth
shall melt with heat.

844
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:27,600
After all, we covered that eyes
and tongues consumed.

845
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,900
Poo the prophecy in the Doctrine
and Covenants talks about that.

846
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:38,500
And when you read accounts of
Hiroshima, tragically, yeah.

847
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:40,400
He saw that happen.
Yep.

848
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,600
Fall of the Abominable church
tonight.

849
00:49:42,700 --> 00:49:43,800
Yeah.
Follow a little whore.

850
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:49,500
Not yet famine and pestilence.
Are we we talking about

851
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,500
consequences of war in Ukraine?
The breadbasket of Europe?

852
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,700
Yeah.
Are we seeing that yet?

853
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:58,100
I mean, I've never seen
shortages like I've seen The

854
00:49:58,107 --> 00:50:00,000
past couple of years?
No, no.

855
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,400
We do we have lived in such a
blessed time where there was

856
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,600
always plenty, right?
You didn't have to like the only

857
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,700
thing you were really worried
about was that Year's toy for

858
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:15,000
Christmas, right?
That was the only shortages you

859
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,700
really ever had to deal with
i-i'll.

860
00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:22,700
Go back to the covid.
Again.

861
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:29,700
Um, I don't know why this makes
me so emotional, but it does me.

862
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:33,000
And my son were sitting at home
and and this will tell you about

863
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,700
me and my kids, we're me and the
boys were kind of heathens.

864
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:39,600
I'm not going to lie a little
bit like when covid started.

865
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,700
Our activity was, let's sit on
the couch and watch every

866
00:50:43,700 --> 00:50:47,800
pandemic movie we can watch.
Yeah, first one to tap out, gets

867
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,900
called a wuss, right?
And and the lone survivor.

868
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:54,000
He's yeah.
And right so this story comes

869
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,500
yes with Doritos.
There was a lot of different,

870
00:50:56,700 --> 00:50:58,600
look every time.
This was the only thing got me

871
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:04,100
through, I'm not gonna lie.
But anyway, one night we were

872
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:07,900
just sitting around the house
and this was like, you remember

873
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:10,500
Governor Herbert hearing you
talking.

874
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:13,000
Mine and said, okay, we're going
to go into a lockdown.

875
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,100
It's going to start in like
three days.

876
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,100
And fortunately for me, my wife,
Rockstar, right?

877
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:27,500
I mean we had everything that we
could have needed for a good.

878
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:32,000
Probably six months not quite a
year, but but we're stocked

879
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,200
right?
We'll take six months.

880
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:40,600
Yeah and so we were in good
shape but I was like one night I

881
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:45,400
just couldn't sleep and if this
was like, again, a couple days

882
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:51,600
before the lockdown, And I felt
a prompting to go to WinCo.

883
00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:56,400
We didn't need anything, but I
just had this weird prompting

884
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:00,600
and I kind of truck it off for a
few minutes but then I'm like,

885
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:06,000
well, just go.
So I went and when I got there,

886
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:13,200
what I discovered was
pandemonium Ken And it was so

887
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,300
sad to see and it left a really
strong impression on me.

888
00:52:21,700 --> 00:52:25,700
What's the super strong
impression on me about?

889
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,600
Just how fragile we are as a
society and just how pampered we

890
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,100
are.
And I saw mother's scrambling to

891
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:42,600
get anything they could write
two to buy noodles to buy just

892
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,200
Staples.
And I'm like or how about baby

893
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,300
formula Tylenol or how about a
new car?

894
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:54,200
I've never seen that.
Yeah, see George there.

895
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,600
Were there was a year and a half
where all the new car dealers.

896
00:52:57,700 --> 00:52:59,800
Tips.
You can use to car dealerships.

897
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,100
Yep, you couldn't.
And that like, that was the

898
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:06,100
weirdest thing.
And so this global economy, this

899
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:09,700
beautiful interdependent global
economy that makes things so

900
00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:12,300
efficient for us.
It doesn't take that much to

901
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:17,800
break down when I saw those.
Those Mega ships piling up off

902
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,100
of the West Coast trying to
deliver their goods.

903
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,800
Not enough.
They're still backed up.

904
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,700
You could see him satellite
images back up into the Pacific.

905
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,600
Yeah, it's kind of scary stuff.
Scary stuff.

906
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,200
Is I think I think it was a call
that we're more fragile than

907
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,200
what we would like to admit.
For sure, for sure.

908
00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:37,300
Now, some of these things were
going to get into.

909
00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:41,100
Now helps distinguish, our time
from World War Two, when they

910
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:46,100
thought the world was ending
right Gathering of Israel.

911
00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:49,400
That's happening.
Big time.

912
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:54,900
Yep, Gathering to Jerusalem that
did not happen until after World

913
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:57,400
War Two.
I mean, we take that for granted

914
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,500
that Jerusalem Israel exists at
all for the first time in almost

915
00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:05,900
two thousand years, right?
Can, it's happening again, let

916
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:08,900
me stop you there.
I was just listening.

917
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:18,200
Who was I listening to?
it was either Glenn Beck or or

918
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,400
maybe Sean Hannity, I can't
remember but I was just

919
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,000
listening to news radio and he
had a guest on who was saying

920
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,500
that there's a new flood of
people moving into Jerusalem out

921
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:34,500
of like Ukraine and Russia.
There's a new people especially

922
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:39,000
Jewish folks are feeling a pull
to go back again in a big

923
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,500
significant way and he's here,
parallel here in the United

924
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:47,600
States, tell these people moving
to back to Utah, grew up.

925
00:54:47,700 --> 00:54:51,200
Here coming back because they
feel this wanting to stand in

926
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,100
holy places or at least safe
places there.

927
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:57,000
I mean the exceeded population
movements from these Megapolis

928
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,100
is like east and west coast
cities and they're moving to

929
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:03,100
where Idaho Utah, Arizona.
I know.

930
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:08,900
I know, I know.
I see it not a bad thing, not

931
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:10,200
even.
Oh, I know.

932
00:55:10,300 --> 00:55:13,700
All right.
Where were you Gathering to Zion

933
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,400
happening?
For sure.

934
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,100
Gentile nation is destroyed
first.

935
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:21,400
Not there yet.
Gospel preached for sure.

936
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:27,800
Great, an abominable Church.
Oh yeah, hailstorm a battle of

937
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,200
Armageddon.
Not yet hailstorms.

938
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,900
Not, yeah.
Half hour of Silence, not yet.

939
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:37,300
Heathen Nations redeemed?
Yes, hmm.

940
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,600
I shall become one.
Land.

941
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,800
That'll happen.
Price comes, Jerusalem and Zion

942
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,900
are Eternal when Christ comes
Jerusalem Temple rebuilt.

943
00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:49,600
Apparently, that needs to begin
before his coming.

944
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,700
Yeah, that begins when that
begins and we know that the

945
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:57,500
zionists in Jerusalem were
trying to make it happen.

946
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:02,000
Well, it can do that.
That one is fascinating to me.

947
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,300
Because you, you, you see
Certain preparations, right?

948
00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:08,600
Like I want to say it was 78
years ago.

949
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:13,500
They finally were able to
through selective breeding and

950
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:16,200
that sort of thing.
Get a red heifer, again, right?

951
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,100
That was one of the things and,
and I'm like, okay, but how are

952
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:23,200
you going to build the temple
when there's a big mosque on top

953
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,700
of it, right?
So I'm really curious how that

954
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:27,100
will shake out.
Yeah.

955
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:31,100
Me too me too.
I also wonder meaning this is a

956
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:35,900
stretch but the BYU Jerusalem
Center its construction and I'm

957
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:40,500
not saying BYU's God's school or
anything like that, but it is a

958
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:45,600
very significant LDS presence in
Jerusalem and it is a holy.

959
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,700
It is a holy Place scene photos
in that sort of thing.

960
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,600
And it was miraculous that that
ever happened Jews converted in

961
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,600
one day.
Not yet.

962
00:56:54,600 --> 00:57:00,300
Judgment yet lamanites will
Blossom as a rooms I say it has

963
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:04,100
happened.
Okay.

964
00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:07,200
I want to hear it.
Go ahead.

965
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,100
We, when we say lamanites, we
tend to think of North American

966
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:16,800
Plains Indians.
Which is ignorant because we are

967
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,800
completely casting aside, the
vast majority of Native

968
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,800
Americans, which exists South of
the Border.

969
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,100
When you look at and you know,
whatever stock you put in the

970
00:57:29,107 --> 00:57:31,100
building of temples, I mean,
goodness gracious.

971
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:35,800
The temples in Central and South
America have proliferated and

972
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,800
continued to proliferate.
And that the the most

973
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,100
significant growth in the Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter-day

974
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:46,100
Saints, is happening there.
Right, I say something.

975
00:57:46,300 --> 00:57:48,800
I say we are witnessing here
now.

976
00:57:50,500 --> 00:57:53,600
So the only thing I would push
back on there.

977
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,700
A little bit would be, I think
you have to include the Native

978
00:57:57,700 --> 00:58:01,200
Americans.
And I North America, the North

979
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,600
American tribes.
Yep.

980
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:06,000
And I feel like they've been
woefully neglected in this

981
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,200
somewhat.
I mean, if you look at some of

982
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,400
their circumstances, I just I
feel horrible that they're in

983
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,000
those circumstances, but surely
those of us who have grown up in

984
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:24,000
the west, I grew up amongst the
Shoshone tribes in Wyoming and

985
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,700
would play football, basketball
and state championship

986
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:28,400
basketball teams met those guys
were good.

987
00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:30,600
Yeah.
In high school, they were

988
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,400
terrible in football.
We created been football

989
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:38,300
basketball, they were awesome.
Now, that's a tough one, because

990
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:43,600
they, in my view, I don't see
any change occurring at all.

991
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:47,800
Yeah, they have.
I mean, in my lifetime, they

992
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,500
continue to exist as they have
That's all I don't.

993
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,900
Oh Heaven, Help me if I don't
want to offend anyone, sure on

994
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:01,100
the, on the other hand there are
North American tribes like the

995
00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:03,800
the Northwestern tribes in
eastern.

996
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,900
Sure that bar that are thriving.
Yep.

997
00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:11,000
But we tend to think
traditionally of the the

998
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,600
reservation tribes that remain
on the reservation and have not

999
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,500
really changed over time, mostly
by their choice, because they're

1000
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:19,300
want to preserve their
traditional way of life.

1001
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,200
Then it's old also I guess would
you know what we want to call a

1002
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:29,300
blossoming, but outside of those
North American reservation

1003
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:33,400
tribes, the other tribes which
are pretty much integrated are

1004
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,400
thriving and are doing very
well.

1005
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,300
But of course, South of the
Border.

1006
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:46,400
We're seeing massive conversions
and a great success in preaching

1007
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,700
to the Native American people's
south of the And states.

1008
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,000
So that we could maybe put to M
plus or a check mark there.

1009
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,500
But I, I think we're witnessing
that we take for granted because

1010
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,700
in the United States, we obsess
about the planes in, right?

1011
01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:06,500
Which is a fraction of the
Native American population,

1012
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:08,200
sure.
All right.

1013
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:10,200
Living water from Jerusalem
Temple.

1014
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,500
We know that won't happen.
To price.

1015
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:14,800
Puts his foot on the Mount of
Olives, a lost ten tribes of

1016
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,900
Israel.
There are those who depend on,

1017
01:00:18,908 --> 01:00:25,600
who you read, not his name,
Bruce mcconkie, son.

1018
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:30,100
Wrote a marvelous article about
this, this Gathering of Israel

1019
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:34,000
which is missionary work is
happening in a very big way and

1020
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,300
there are many many not.
The patriarchal blessing is

1021
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:40,400
necessarily the answer but there
are indications that people from

1022
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,700
many tribes.
Especially I have friends and

1023
01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:44,500
neighbors, who served in Russia,
they're seeing a lot of these

1024
01:00:44,500 --> 01:00:48,300
tribes turn up.
Interspersed among yeah, among

1025
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:52,900
the Russian populations.
So one could say that is already

1026
01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:55,900
happening.
The reason I didn't check it

1027
01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:57,800
off.
There seems to be this section

1028
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,200
130 which has never been
explained very well by anyone.

1029
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:04,500
In a great Highway shall be cast
up from deep and lands become

1030
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,100
one.
The tribes will come down to be

1031
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:09,900
crowded with the blessings of
even that sort of thing that

1032
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,600
seems to be kind of a second
coming kind of a thing.

1033
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,400
Okay.
Yeah.

1034
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:16,600
A man like Anna.
Moses?

1035
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,900
Hello, Joseph Brigham.
Yep.

1036
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,300
Millennium.
LM, not yet, not yet.

1037
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:24,600
Not yet mountains of flow down
in his presence at section 130.

1038
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,100
Not yet, new Heaven and new
earth, not yet.

1039
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:31,500
All that stuff will happen.
As a result of his coming out of

1040
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:34,900
Zion shall go forth the law, so
Jerusalem would be the religious

1041
01:01:34,900 --> 01:01:37,600
capital.
In Zion will be delayed Capital,

1042
01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:40,100
that will happen in parable of
the ten virgins.

1043
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:42,600
I think it's happening.
Yeah, I think you're right.

1044
01:01:43,300 --> 01:01:45,500
That one, that one is happening.
For sure.

1045
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,100
And I didn't believe that before
maybe 10 years ago right now

1046
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:53,300
it's like wow, that's so
happening piece will be taking

1047
01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:56,500
with me Earth.
Definitely happened, persecution

1048
01:01:56,500 --> 01:01:59,500
of the Saints.
There was the Mormon moment that

1049
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:01,900
is over, right?
Yep.

1050
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:06,700
We will be coming, already
coming under it.

1051
01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:09,700
Well, good Heavens.
They don't even Elder Holland to

1052
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:12,600
speak at suu because he said
muskets in his speech.

1053
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:14,800
It had anything to do with
anything.

1054
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,800
I mean, that's I think that's
the tip of the iceberg.

1055
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,500
Yeah.
No, I think you're right, I

1056
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:24,200
think we're entering a time now
where it doesn't matter, what

1057
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,200
kind of Mormon you say, you are,
you're going to become a pinata

1058
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,000
a little bit, right?
You're going to get some heat.

1059
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:35,200
How dare Mormons believe that
there are such a thing called

1060
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,900
sin.
How dare we say there are

1061
01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:42,600
behaviors that are unhealthy,
right?

1062
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,500
Right and I'm God, how dare you,
how dare you shame other people.

1063
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,300
Anyway, rainbow has not been
withdrawn yet.

1064
01:02:52,900 --> 01:02:57,800
Restoration of all things we
could say in terms of the

1065
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,200
fullness of the Gospel.
Yes.

1066
01:02:59,500 --> 01:03:01,800
Yep.
Resurrection.

1067
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,200
Not yet sacrifice.
Yes.

1068
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,900
I should have that scripture at
the ready.

1069
01:03:15,500 --> 01:03:18,800
When the sons of Moses and Aaron
offer get an offering in

1070
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,400
righteousness, that scripture
from the Doctrine and Covenants

1071
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:29,100
has already been answered.
Oh, I must find us.

1072
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:39,400
Hey, here we go.
This is section, 128 verse 24,

1073
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,800
behold the great day of the Lord
is at hand and who can abide the

1074
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,300
day of his coming and who can
stand when he appears with its

1075
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:50,400
rhetorical question.
Nobody can't write for.

1076
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,800
He is like a refiners fire, like
Fuller soap and he shall sit as

1077
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,400
a refiner and purifier of silver
and he shall purify the sons of

1078
01:03:57,408 --> 01:04:02,600
Levi, who are the sons of Levi.
Pick your priesthood.

1079
01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:05,900
People have priests and
convertible.

1080
01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:09,700
I believe it's in the teachings
of the Prophet Joseph Smith, I

1081
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:13,300
could be wrong, but I think
doesn't Joseph Smith get very

1082
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:18,000
specific about animal sacrifices
again, being offered up in

1083
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,700
Jerusalem.
I would like to see that because

1084
01:04:21,700 --> 01:04:25,400
this scripture says, well, let
me finish this and we'll

1085
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,100
continue this conversation.
So let's talk about the and he's

1086
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:32,200
going to purify the sons of Levi
and purge them as gold and

1087
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,700
silver that they may offer unto
the Lord an offering in

1088
01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:38,900
righteousness.
I most people think, oh, we're

1089
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:42,900
going to have animal sacrifice
again, which seems weird after

1090
01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:45,900
the great and last sacrifice.
But then the scripture goes on.

1091
01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:52,700
Let us therefore as the sons of
Levi, as a church ended people,

1092
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,200
and as Latter-Day Saints, offer
unto the Lord, an offering in

1093
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,700
righteousness and then it names
the offering and let us present

1094
01:05:01,700 --> 01:05:04,300
in his holy Temple.
When it is finished.

1095
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,300
A book, containing the records
of our dead.

1096
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:10,100
And which shall be worthy of all
acceptation.

1097
01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:15,900
So according to one, 28 verse 24
that offering in righteousness

1098
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:21,000
is vicarious work which is what
the ancient temples were

1099
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:25,500
prefiguring because they could
not do vicarious work until

1100
01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:29,300
after the resurrection.
So that offering in

1101
01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:33,200
righteousness, we think is going
to be animal sacrifice section.

1102
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:38,900
128 says, no, it's the purified
Latter-Day Saints offer that

1103
01:05:38,900 --> 01:05:40,900
offering in righteousness, it's
a book.

1104
01:05:40,900 --> 01:05:44,700
Containing the records of our
dead referring to Vicarious

1105
01:05:44,700 --> 01:05:47,800
work.
So that's why I check that off

1106
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,100
as a.
Yeah, that's done in the process

1107
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:52,300
of being done at least.
Okay?

1108
01:05:52,300 --> 01:05:54,700
You and I may disagree there a
little bit on it because I'm

1109
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:58,400
looking at the quote here and
and Joseph does Typically talk

1110
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,600
about animal sacrifices.
Now, by the way, before you read

1111
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,200
that.
It doesn't preclude.

1112
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,000
Both no, no.
I did.

1113
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:12,000
I just want to point out, right?
I'm down with saying, it's most

1114
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,500
likely is both.
I'm down for that.

1115
01:06:14,900 --> 01:06:19,400
So, I, but if we do animal
sacrifice again, you will only

1116
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,400
be symbolic.
Yes, as it was anyway, right?

1117
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:27,600
As it was himself it, right?
It has no salvific, no, no, no.

1118
01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:30,100
Right, I agree with you totally
on that.

1119
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:31,900
I think it could be referencing
both.

1120
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:35,100
I-i'm that that is a very
interesting topic.

1121
01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:39,700
Is it isn't it is an interesting
topic, let's see.

1122
01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:43,900
And I have to admit being a guy
who like when you hear about

1123
01:06:43,900 --> 01:06:48,000
what the what the ritual was.
I mean, this is a lamb you

1124
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,800
brought into your house, almost,
right.

1125
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,100
It became a pet.
So I'm not necessarily looking

1126
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:58,400
forward to that with a whole lot
of Glee anyway, but Yeah, no

1127
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,400
it's it is a fascinating
conversation topic.

1128
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,600
You're right.
So when that happens you and I

1129
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,700
will look at each other.
One of us is going to raise our

1130
01:07:06,700 --> 01:07:09,200
eyebrows and the other will look
down shamefaced.

1131
01:07:09,500 --> 01:07:16,000
Yeah, if it happens right.
Right night, I haven't figured

1132
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,700
out why it should happen, unless
it's just to fulfill to close

1133
01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:23,600
the circle, you know, in the
presence of Christ, but secret

1134
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,700
combinations.
You know what's going to happen

1135
01:07:25,700 --> 01:07:28,200
when we find out one way or
another, Sure how that's going

1136
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:28,900
to go.
One of us.

1137
01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:30,600
Will pass the other.
A five dollar bill.

1138
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,300
Like, you got me on that one.
Here you go.

1139
01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:35,500
Yeah, yeah.
No.

1140
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:36,600
Both laugh.
I love that.

1141
01:07:36,700 --> 01:07:40,500
Yeah, that's right.
Secret combinations.

1142
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,700
Yes yeah.
Oh yeah.

1143
01:07:42,900 --> 01:07:43,900
Well, big time.
Yeah.

1144
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:46,800
We know, they're out there.
We don't know the half of it.

1145
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,900
I don't want to know all of it
and just bring me down.

1146
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,500
Yep, sons of Levi offering.
We just read that scripture.

1147
01:07:53,500 --> 01:07:54,700
That's happening.
I believe.

1148
01:07:55,600 --> 01:08:00,000
The spirit of God will withdraw.
Yep, it is happening.

1149
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,500
And of course, the result of the
withdrawal of the spirit of God

1150
01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:07,300
is chaos, right?
We're starting to see that in

1151
01:08:07,300 --> 01:08:10,800
the cities where a lawn, or Law
and Order going to hell in as

1152
01:08:10,808 --> 01:08:12,800
some of these other nations
where they've been hanging by a

1153
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,800
thread in any case.
Hmm, I don't know if it's on

1154
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,700
this list but something I wanted
to talk to you about one of

1155
01:08:18,707 --> 01:08:24,100
those signs is it talks about
men's Hearts failing them and is

1156
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:28,500
that on this list somewhere can?
If it's not, we should be

1157
01:08:28,508 --> 01:08:33,200
ashamed because it should be I
don't see it.

1158
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:35,100
Oh, we're gonna have to add it.
Good job.

1159
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:38,700
You found one, you know, that's
happening, that one.

1160
01:08:38,700 --> 01:08:40,600
What is that?
You know, that one?

1161
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:45,200
I find fascinating because I
went through several iterations

1162
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,399
of what that could be.
Now, as, as a brand-new Mormon,

1163
01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:52,100
my first thought was, oh, people
are like Keeling over because of

1164
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:53,700
heart attacks, right?
That's right.

1165
01:08:53,700 --> 01:08:58,000
First thought great.
And then I thought well I think

1166
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,899
maybe it's just the love of man
waxing cold towards his brother.

1167
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,300
Other, which I think that could
still be a part of it even now.

1168
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:14,000
But lately.
I've been thinking about, The

1169
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,200
courage of men.
Failing them.

1170
01:09:18,899 --> 01:09:21,600
We live in a time.
Now, that's very interesting in

1171
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:26,300
the sense of we just seem to be
denying reality at every turn

1172
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:34,200
and to call out that Li you are
labeled a hater.

1173
01:09:34,899 --> 01:09:39,700
You could find yourself losing
your job, you could find

1174
01:09:39,700 --> 01:09:45,100
yourself being canceled.
And so, I think there is

1175
01:09:45,100 --> 01:09:49,700
hesitancy, like, never before On
the part of men, where, where,

1176
01:09:49,700 --> 01:09:52,700
their their heart, their
courage, it's failing them.

1177
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,500
And I think that that, you know,
that that's a huge part of it.

1178
01:09:56,500 --> 01:10:00,600
Because as men become more and
more worried about, you know,

1179
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,700
these things that courage seems
to be waning a little bit.

1180
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:11,400
I also, I also think that that,
you know, the the love of the

1181
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,600
Brotherly Love waxing Kolb, I
think as a part of that as well.

1182
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:19,300
Absolutely, I tend to think of
it as losing hope.

1183
01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:24,700
Yeah, because as we talked about
before as times become less and

1184
01:10:24,700 --> 01:10:29,400
less stable, more and more
tribulation and more problems

1185
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:34,100
and we're we're experiencing
shortages famine disease, and

1186
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:35,600
pestilence and all this sort of
thing.

1187
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,900
The only people who will not
lose, hope are they people who

1188
01:10:40,900 --> 01:10:44,500
recognize these signs in
weirdly?

1189
01:10:44,500 --> 01:10:47,600
Get because Jesus is coming,
right?

1190
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,700
Everybody else.
We'll lose hope.

1191
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:53,800
Yeah.
And their hearts will fail.

1192
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,400
Yeah, for me.
But I think they're all true.

1193
01:10:57,700 --> 01:10:59,300
I do too.
Can I do too?

1194
01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:04,300
I do very interesting.
Yeah the spirit of God will

1195
01:11:04,300 --> 01:11:05,800
withdraw.
Yeah definitely.

1196
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:09,000
Yep.
Temples temples will dot the

1197
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,100
land.
Hmm.

1198
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:15,300
Who of us and our lifetime
anticipated.

1199
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,300
This credible rate of Temple
construction within the church,

1200
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:26,000
right?
Last conference, I'm sitting

1201
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:34,500
there in 1, 2, 3 15, right?
And this hundred-year-old Man

1202
01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:39,100
shows no signs of slowing down.
It seems like the crazier

1203
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:43,700
things, get the more intent.
They are in trying to bring

1204
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:51,000
higher ordinances to the people.
As a wholly standing to make it

1205
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,700
possible for more and more
States stand in holy places.

1206
01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:57,800
Times of the Gentiles will be
fulfilled.

1207
01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:02,900
Most certainly.
So the tongue of Egyptian see

1208
01:12:02,900 --> 01:12:06,800
will be destroying.
Not yet trumpets and plagues.

1209
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:14,400
I think we're starting to see
that the two witnesses now, this

1210
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,600
is fascinating.
This is the alarm Bell.

1211
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:23,100
This is the one he should be
quite obvious.

1212
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:31,300
And let some, let me call that
up here on my screen.

1213
01:12:32,900 --> 01:12:34,500
I think I know where you're
going with this.

1214
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:44,500
Let's share.
Where did that go again?

1215
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,900
No, no no no no.
Not here.

1216
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:55,800
No right here.
I'll share that one.

1217
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,100
Yes.
The two witnesses.

1218
01:13:03,300 --> 01:13:05,900
So here we are on the website
reading straight out of

1219
01:13:05,900 --> 01:13:09,800
Revelation.
That verse 3, I will give power

1220
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,500
unto my two witnesses and they
shall prophesy a thousand two

1221
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:16,500
hundred threescore days, three
and a half years.

1222
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,800
These are the two olive trees
and the two candlesticks

1223
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:21,800
standing before the god of the
earth.

1224
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,000
And if any man will hurt them
fire proceedeth out of the mouth

1225
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,100
and devours, their enemies.
If any man will hurt them, he

1226
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:29,600
must in this manner.
Be killed.

1227
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,300
These have power to shut Heaven.
That it not rain in the days of

1228
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:36,200
their prophecy, and have power
over Waters, to turn them to

1229
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,100
blood and to Smite the Earth
with all plagues as often as

1230
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:41,200
they will.
And when they shall have

1231
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,500
finished their testimony, the
Beast that ascendeth out of the

1232
01:13:44,500 --> 01:13:47,300
bottomless pit shall make war
against them and shall overcome

1233
01:13:47,300 --> 01:13:49,500
them.
All them and their dead bodies

1234
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:52,400
shall lie in the street of the
great city, which spiritually is

1235
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,100
called Sodom and Egypt.
Where also our Lord was

1236
01:13:55,100 --> 01:13:57,800
crucified.
So in Jerusalem and they have

1237
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,900
the people and kindred's and
tongues and Nations shall see

1238
01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:03,300
their dead bodies, three days
and a half and shall not suffer

1239
01:14:03,300 --> 01:14:05,000
their dead bodies to be put in
Graves.

1240
01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:08,500
And they that dwell upon the
Earth shall rejoice over them

1241
01:14:08,700 --> 01:14:12,500
and make Merry and shall send
gifts one to another because

1242
01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:15,900
these two prophets tormented
them that dwelt on the earth.

1243
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,500
And after three and a half days
is Spirit of life from God

1244
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,300
entered into them, and they
stood upon their feet and great

1245
01:14:21,300 --> 01:14:24,100
fear fell upon them, which saw
them, and they heard a great

1246
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:25,800
voice from Heaven saying, come
up hither.

1247
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,300
They sent it up to heaven in a
cloud and their enemies beheld

1248
01:14:28,300 --> 01:14:30,500
of them.
And the same hour, there was a

1249
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:33,400
great earthquake and the tenth
part of the city fell, and in

1250
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,800
the earthquake were slain men,
7,000 And the remnant were

1251
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,600
affrighted in the gave glory to
the god of Heaven.

1252
01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:45,800
So when two two witnesses two,
prophets began to prophesy in

1253
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,500
Jerusalem and great power
unmistakable power.

1254
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,700
That means Jesus will come in
three and a half years.

1255
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,800
That's how I see that.
That's, that's the alarm Bell.

1256
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:02,500
Absolutely.
Yeah.

1257
01:15:02,500 --> 01:15:03,900
No, because it spells it out
there.

1258
01:15:03,900 --> 01:15:08,700
Pretty clearly, doesn't it?
It's very specific to be short.

1259
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,200
Yeah.
Now.

1260
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:17,700
So War in the United States, not
yet.

1261
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,200
Not yet.
Not yet.

1262
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:29,500
But and you know, that's
something we get an idea how

1263
01:15:29,500 --> 01:15:34,400
easily this could start.
We're starting to see open

1264
01:15:34,500 --> 01:15:36,400
Rebellion against.
Whoa.

1265
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,700
Chasm.
Over Bud Light.

1266
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,200
Yep.
Yep.

1267
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:46,100
I mean something that small can
cause people to completely

1268
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:50,600
decimate a very powerful
retailer.

1269
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,500
I mean, when something of any
real significance happens, there

1270
01:15:55,500 --> 01:15:58,400
is a segment of the populace
that they've happened.

1271
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,100
Well, yeah.
And, and, and this could be a

1272
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:05,400
couple different things, right.
This could be civil war so to

1273
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:11,800
speak.
Yeah, um, look, I'm trying here

1274
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:18,100
to be sensitive about this, but
I don't think I can be, um, from

1275
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:21,900
the from my time while living on
the East Coast.

1276
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,400
I have a good friend, I'm still
friends with it, and he was my

1277
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:32,100
next door neighbor.
Wasn't isn't a Mormon of any

1278
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:36,500
kind and all I could ever get
out of him about where he worked

1279
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:43,600
was quote, an agency inside out.
So take that for what it is.

1280
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,000
Yeah, but but we talk quite
often because he's, like, one of

1281
01:16:48,008 --> 01:16:51,700
those guys I never want to lose
contact with because he, he

1282
01:16:51,700 --> 01:16:54,500
knows right.
Yeah, he told me some

1283
01:16:54,500 --> 01:16:59,900
interesting stuff during covid.
That was pretty fast. mating,

1284
01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:05,800
which makes me think it did
start in the lab but oh well,

1285
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:11,100
we've done some things through
this whole Ukraine, Russia thing

1286
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:18,500
that could be construed as as as
an act of War.

1287
01:17:21,700 --> 01:17:31,900
Specifically having to do with a
pipeline. and I can't confirm

1288
01:17:31,900 --> 01:17:39,100
it, but that's what I hear is
that, that was maybe Maybe we

1289
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:42,700
had a hand in that.
Somehow not saying it was our

1290
01:17:42,700 --> 01:17:44,800
boys on the ground necessary,
right?

1291
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:49,400
But right, we funded that and so
you look at something like that,

1292
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:56,800
it was, you know, we have spy
balloons, flying over the heart,

1293
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,700
the heartland of America, And
we're like, yeah, just let it

1294
01:18:01,700 --> 01:18:02,500
go.
What could go?

1295
01:18:02,500 --> 01:18:06,300
What could go wrong, right?
And I'm so this, I think this

1296
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:13,000
idea that that somehow were
immune to an attack Or to an

1297
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:17,200
all-out war waged on our Shores.
I don't think seems as

1298
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,100
far-fetched today as it used to
be.

1299
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,300
And so it could be like you're
saying Civil War.

1300
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,400
I mean that's, that's always a
possibility.

1301
01:18:25,700 --> 01:18:28,900
If we look at how the inner
cities now are eating

1302
01:18:28,900 --> 01:18:30,300
themselves.
I mean, look at this.

1303
01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:37,000
What's going on in Chicago?
I mean it's a bloodbath and of

1304
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,700
the political divide in the
United States right now is

1305
01:18:40,700 --> 01:18:43,100
Urban.
Is rural girl.

1306
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:44,700
Yep.
Yep.

1307
01:18:44,700 --> 01:18:49,700
You're absolutely right.
And the populations I think are

1308
01:18:49,700 --> 01:18:51,900
quite naturally dividing
themselves.

1309
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,200
For better and for worse.
I mean, I wouldn't wish this

1310
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,500
upon anyone.
No, but it's not getting better.

1311
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,200
It's not no waiting.
No.

1312
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,600
In the political hijinks, I
mean, I listened to your podcast

1313
01:19:05,300 --> 01:19:08,100
on abortion.
That was a hard one.

1314
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:13,500
That was a hard.
That was a very for me to do but

1315
01:19:13,500 --> 01:19:17,500
I'm like I said the dirty
tricks, the people play to try

1316
01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:20,200
and skirt the law to continue to
take.

1317
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:25,500
Innocent lives is utterly
shocking to me.

1318
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,400
And to me, that's that's a
canary in the coal mine, right?

1319
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:34,200
How we can treat children and I
don't care what anybody says.

1320
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:42,400
Look, That is a child that will
never become a transmission to a

1321
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,300
79 Buick within the womb.
Right?

1322
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,700
That is a person.
And so when you start and

1323
01:19:50,700 --> 01:19:53,600
completely innocent, yep.
And when we start engaging in

1324
01:19:53,608 --> 01:19:57,400
that behavior, we're done.
And I think I said this in the

1325
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:02,800
podcast when the Dobbs decision
came down I was overjoyed.

1326
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,300
I mean as a guy who adopted two
twins who struggled for life, I

1327
01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:09,200
was always Pro, right?
I was a weird kid, right?

1328
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,400
Like I would go party with my
buddies and then listen to Rush

1329
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:18,300
Limbaugh on my headphones during
during class.

1330
01:20:18,300 --> 01:20:23,000
So I was a weird kid.
So I've always slanted towards

1331
01:20:23,500 --> 01:20:28,500
pro-life on this but that got
ramped up when I saw my twins

1332
01:20:28,500 --> 01:20:31,400
fight for every breath.
Of Life they took.

1333
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,900
And I realized that the default
setting for everybody is life.

1334
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:44,200
When the dog decisions came
down, I wept in my car, I wept

1335
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:49,200
in my car and I came home and
that night, I fell on my knees

1336
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:55,500
and I thanked my God and what I
got back after I got up off my

1337
01:20:55,500 --> 01:21:01,500
knees and just contemplated and
I believe it was, you know, it

1338
01:21:01,500 --> 01:21:03,700
was a personal thing.
I'm not saying it's for anybody

1339
01:21:03,700 --> 01:21:08,300
else.
But what I what I got was don't

1340
01:21:08,300 --> 01:21:13,000
be too happy quite yet because
all I've done is allow people to

1341
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,800
separate themselves because
right now, you know, as it stood

1342
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:20,900
before, then our tax dollars
were going federally to support

1343
01:21:20,900 --> 01:21:25,100
this now.
Now people get to choose.

1344
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,900
Now people have the choice and a
strong.

1345
01:21:27,900 --> 01:21:30,500
Don't take me, it's not give me
CC.

1346
01:21:30,500 --> 01:21:33,900
Which states are funding
abortion.

1347
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:36,600
I mean, we We'll fly you to a
state where it's still legal

1348
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,400
company companies and entities
or I'll pay for my employees to

1349
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:45,800
take time off to go get an
abortion as you say, separating

1350
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,100
ourselves.
Yep.

1351
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:50,300
According to what we choose?
Yeah, if you live in a state,

1352
01:21:50,300 --> 01:21:53,900
that's doing that.
Hmm, right.

1353
01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:57,100
I mean, I'm not saying look,
everybody's circumstances going

1354
01:21:57,100 --> 01:21:59,900
to be different and you should
say and exactly where the Lord

1355
01:21:59,900 --> 01:22:01,700
tells you to stand.
Yeah.

1356
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,500
Having said that you may want to
think About voting with your

1357
01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:07,500
feet.
If you live in New York or

1358
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:11,900
California where they're talking
about post birth abortion, you

1359
01:22:11,900 --> 01:22:16,200
might want to think about
getting out of Dodge Magnum

1360
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,400
crazy.
They would even consider that

1361
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,100
but it's on the table.
Now I know how is that?

1362
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:26,100
Not murdered.
Yeah, mind-boggling you have

1363
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:31,800
ugly and so again, I don't I
don't think this is over by any

1364
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:36,100
stretch of the imagination and I
think At this was a gift for

1365
01:22:36,100 --> 01:22:38,500
time that you get to make a
choice now.

1366
01:22:41,500 --> 01:22:44,300
All right.
Like you, I was thrilled with

1367
01:22:44,300 --> 01:22:45,900
that decision came down, I
thought, wow.

1368
01:22:45,900 --> 01:22:50,000
That was easier than I thought
it would be but then the Crusty

1369
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,400
part of me is like it ain't over
yet.

1370
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:57,100
We haven't even begun to see the
wicked machinations that work.

1371
01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:02,300
Well, in promote the taking of
innocent lives.

1372
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:07,500
I mean this is the Latter-Day
version of Child sacrifice.

1373
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:12,700
It is no you're 100% correct.
All that's happened.

1374
01:23:12,700 --> 01:23:17,400
Is that the Scarlet Robes of the
presymbolic have been replaced

1375
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:21,200
by white lab coats and scrubs in
abortion clinics?

1376
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,600
That's it.
That's the only thing that's

1377
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,000
changed.
It's just been repurposed and

1378
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,000
repackaged for modern
consumption, that's all they

1379
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,800
pray and they pray upon the
ignorant and the desperate.

1380
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:34,700
Absolutely they do.
Absolutely.

1381
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,600
We they do and then if you want
to, you know, I had a buddy who

1382
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,300
just literally fled to the
United States from Canada

1383
01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:46,800
because Canada past the wall
that said, if you're a teenager

1384
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:51,100
I think it's over the age of 14
but I could be wrong on that.

1385
01:23:51,700 --> 01:23:56,000
You can have medical assisted
suicide for depression.

1386
01:23:56,300 --> 01:23:58,500
If a doctor says it doesn't, he
doesn't see it getting any

1387
01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:01,600
better.
This guy had to take his whole

1388
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:06,200
family to save his child.
And moved out of the country.

1389
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:10,000
Fortunately his wife had dual
citizenship so they were able to

1390
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,600
get out of there but they were
weeks away from scheduling it.

1391
01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:19,900
There.
And this is the part where I get

1392
01:24:19,900 --> 01:24:21,500
is hard to believe.
Honestly.

1393
01:24:21,500 --> 01:24:23,500
Hard to believe.
Yeah, yeah.

1394
01:24:23,500 --> 01:24:26,500
But it's happening.
It's happening right before our

1395
01:24:26,500 --> 01:24:32,700
eyes and If we don't recognize
this for what it is, I mean,

1396
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:38,400
wow.
Yeah, we're there.

1397
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:44,500
I need to go get some Doritos.
Let's read through, but it's

1398
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:45,600
macaques.
Yeah.

1399
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,500
Mountain of the Lord's house
shall be established in the

1400
01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:49,400
mountains, top of the mountains?
Sure.

1401
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,200
Yeah.
The Lord shall lift an enzyme

1402
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,700
and gather Israel check Sun
shall be darkened and the moon

1403
01:24:55,700 --> 01:24:57,600
shall not cause her light shine
not yet.

1404
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:03,100
We see how possible it is.
Why that could be Man shall

1405
01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:04,700
transgress the law break the
Everlasting.

1406
01:25:04,700 --> 01:25:08,700
Covenant, check Nephi shall
speak as a voice from the dust.

1407
01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:12,100
Check is also be gathered with
power check.

1408
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,700
God will set up a kingdom, which
shall not be destroyed should

1409
01:25:15,700 --> 01:25:18,800
act, or is dreams, and Visions.
Will precede the second coming

1410
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,700
check.
All nations will gather against

1411
01:25:21,700 --> 01:25:25,800
Jerusalem to battle Armageddon.
Not yet the day, cometh, that

1412
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,700
shall burn as an oven.
Not yet.

1413
01:25:27,900 --> 01:25:29,600
Great calamities perceived his
incoming.

1414
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:34,800
Yes, you know, the one we take
for granted is the tsunami in

1415
01:25:34,900 --> 01:25:38,200
Thailand.
There's only one script for the

1416
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,700
Prophecies of the Seas, he being
beyond their bounds.

1417
01:25:41,700 --> 01:25:43,000
It's in the Doctrine and
Covenants.

1418
01:25:43,900 --> 01:25:47,600
None of us had ever knew what
that was until that tsunami.

1419
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,000
Now we had tsunami warnings.
That how will that get how

1420
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:56,900
easily that can happen?
Great collateral.

1421
01:25:56,900 --> 01:26:00,400
Paul described apostasy and
perilous times of the last days

1422
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,100
check.
Yep, two prophets will be slain.

1423
01:26:03,100 --> 01:26:06,600
There's our favorite is my
favorite not yet gospel shall be

1424
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,800
restored in the last days.
Check Babylon will be

1425
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:13,200
established in the fall.
Not yet is what we got the

1426
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,700
power.
Yes this is signing me know the

1427
01:26:15,700 --> 01:26:18,400
time but commercial going forth.
Check lameness Blossom.

1428
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:23,200
Check maybe the wicked to slay
the wicked check.

1429
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:28,200
No yeah.
Yeah, war war will be poured out

1430
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:32,400
upon All Nations.
Check signs of people's the

1431
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:36,600
elements Angels, not yet
Darkness covers the earth, I say

1432
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:41,000
not yet but darkness in the
parable of the ten virgins is

1433
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,700
wickedness or the absence of
light, right?

1434
01:26:43,700 --> 01:26:46,100
I think I would change that to a
red checkmark.

1435
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:48,000
I think that's done.
I don't know why.

1436
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,300
Mark a blue.
The Lord commanded the Saints to

1437
01:26:50,300 --> 01:26:52,000
prepare for the second coming.
Yes.

1438
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,300
Yep.
So the final question or not

1439
01:26:55,500 --> 01:26:58,900
This if you look at all of the
things that just have the plus

1440
01:26:58,900 --> 01:27:03,400
Mark that we're still waiting
for how long would it take.

1441
01:27:04,300 --> 01:27:07,000
How much time would it take for
all of those to happen?

1442
01:27:08,100 --> 01:27:11,900
Not very long, you know?
And and here's what I've noticed

1443
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:17,700
since Now this comes from the
book of Dave.

1444
01:27:17,700 --> 01:27:20,900
I don't want anyone thinking
that this is Doc, I'm gonna get

1445
01:27:20,900 --> 01:27:22,500
it.
How can I get a copy of the

1446
01:27:22,500 --> 01:27:25,100
book?
And Dave, you wouldn't want.

1447
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:28,600
It's just nothing for.
It's mostly just recipes.

1448
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,300
You can use with Doritos.
That's all it.

1449
01:27:30,300 --> 01:27:32,600
Is there a bit and the Regal
stains all over it, right?

1450
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:38,000
That's right.
Um, I've noticed since like I

1451
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:44,200
feel like when 9/11 happened, I
feel like that was the first of

1452
01:27:44,208 --> 01:27:47,100
the serious things that started
to happen, right?

1453
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:52,400
Do you know, do you know that
the Towers falling is actually

1454
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:57,200
referenced and Isaiah really?
When the towers fell you look it

1455
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,200
up an exam.
I'm going to have to do that.

1456
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:07,600
Very very specific crazy.
Anyway I like I like the parable

1457
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,300
of the woman in travail, she's
about to give labor, right?

1458
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:15,500
And for those of us with
children who have seen are our

1459
01:28:15,500 --> 01:28:18,900
wives, or if you're a woman
listening, you know, better than

1460
01:28:18,900 --> 01:28:25,000
me.
Those contractions start out.

1461
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,900
Somewhat mild somewhat space to
Heart, right?

1462
01:28:28,900 --> 01:28:32,800
Right.
And what I've felt since 9/11 is

1463
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:38,700
that those birth pangs are
happening more strongly and more

1464
01:28:38,700 --> 01:28:42,700
closely together.
So as we look at the rest of

1465
01:28:42,700 --> 01:28:48,100
that list, we think, you know,
if you were just passively

1466
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:51,900
looking at it without thinking
about what's What's proceeded in

1467
01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:54,600
the past, right?
How far removed are we from 911

1468
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,700
now?
Ken like 25 years?

1469
01:28:56,700 --> 01:29:02,200
Probably not even that with 22
years. 22, was it 2011 2001?

1470
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,500
Yeah.
So yeah, 22 years.

1471
01:29:05,300 --> 01:29:10,300
Think about everything that has
changed 10 in that last 22

1472
01:29:10,300 --> 01:29:13,500
years.
Think about what we have seen

1473
01:29:14,300 --> 01:29:18,100
and then think about how much
quicker it seems to be coming.

1474
01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:23,000
Just one right after another.
Just bought every day, right?

1475
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,000
And so I wake up every day,
check the head.

1476
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,500
Headlines to see what is what
has happened now.

1477
01:29:30,900 --> 01:29:32,400
Yeah.
Yeah, everybody.

1478
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:35,900
Absolutely.
So, while well again, you might

1479
01:29:35,900 --> 01:29:38,600
look at that passively without
looking at history as a

1480
01:29:38,608 --> 01:29:41,300
reference.
I think you can say that.

1481
01:29:41,300 --> 01:29:44,800
Since 9/11.
Those birth pangs, those

1482
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:49,600
contractions have started to
become stronger and closer

1483
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:54,500
together and closer together and
meaning that the time of the

1484
01:29:54,500 --> 01:29:57,500
event is at hand, right?
Right.

1485
01:29:57,500 --> 01:29:59,400
That we're getting to that
point.

1486
01:29:59,500 --> 01:30:02,400
I'll never pretend to tell
anyone when I think the savior's

1487
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:03,800
coming because I just don't
know.

1488
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,300
Okay, when we're done here we
stop recording you and I are

1489
01:30:07,300 --> 01:30:08,800
going to tell each other.
What we think.

1490
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:13,700
Okay that sounds good.
So we will put five bucks on it.

1491
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:17,000
Yeah.
With are worthless money at that

1492
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,200
point.
Right right.

1493
01:30:18,300 --> 01:30:22,800
But But yeah, I just think it's
closer and closer together and

1494
01:30:23,900 --> 01:30:27,800
for now we just have to look at
the events.

1495
01:30:28,900 --> 01:30:33,900
And again, I don't think it
takes a prophet or somebody with

1496
01:30:33,900 --> 01:30:37,700
a prophetic gift to say, if we
look at the history of the last

1497
01:30:37,700 --> 01:30:42,900
23 years, we can expect some of
those other events to start

1498
01:30:42,900 --> 01:30:48,500
coming quicker and suit and
closer to the next event after

1499
01:30:48,500 --> 01:30:54,300
that. well, if I were to bottom
line, all of this is what we

1500
01:30:54,300 --> 01:30:59,800
have to remember, most of all
The reason the signs are given

1501
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,900
is so that we won't be afraid,
right?

1502
01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:08,500
So that we won't lose heart, so
we won't lose hope and that is

1503
01:31:08,500 --> 01:31:12,000
hard and as difficult as think
and as horrific as some things

1504
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,500
are, what is it leading to the
greatest age in the history of

1505
01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:20,800
this world?
The age that every Prophet since

1506
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:25,700
Adam has looked forward to we
are on the we're on the cusp of

1507
01:31:25,700 --> 01:31:29,500
that we are.
I mean, even to be alive Here

1508
01:31:29,500 --> 01:31:35,600
and Now, My blessing encourages
me to Rejoice that.

1509
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,400
I should see the Fulfillment of
Prophecy among the Nations.

1510
01:31:38,900 --> 01:31:41,000
Yeah.
It's like sitting on the 50-yard

1511
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:44,300
line, you know?
Super Bowl.

1512
01:31:44,500 --> 01:31:47,600
Yep.
Only far, far more impactful,

1513
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:53,400
obviously, but, and it's not
that and I don't rejoice in the

1514
01:31:53,407 --> 01:31:56,800
suffering of any.
Hmm, not even the way it.

1515
01:31:57,300 --> 01:32:02,500
No, but what I have to keep in
mind, Is that this is all in

1516
01:32:02,500 --> 01:32:09,600
preparation for a thousand years
Paradise, right?

1517
01:32:09,700 --> 01:32:12,200
Paradise.
Yep.

1518
01:32:12,900 --> 01:32:16,300
Yep.
India, the descriptions of That

1519
01:32:16,300 --> 01:32:23,600
Paradise are just I love the
section 76 when it describes the

1520
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,400
T.
Last whole Kingdom as the

1521
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,900
Kingman that surpasses all
understanding.

1522
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:30,700
Yeah.
And this to rest were world will

1523
01:32:30,700 --> 01:32:37,500
be beyond that, right?
So you know and God God is good

1524
01:32:37,500 --> 01:32:39,700
and merciful and gracious.
Yep.

1525
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:44,300
And I think that's important
that that we, we make that

1526
01:32:44,300 --> 01:32:49,500
point, right?
Is that Yes, these are going to

1527
01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:54,400
be frightening times.
However, I had a good friend

1528
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:58,500
when I when I live back East who
was an Evangelical, I believe it

1529
01:32:58,500 --> 01:33:03,300
was a Baptist and he made most
Mormons.

1530
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,400
You know, look like rookies when
it came to reproduction, he had

1531
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:15,100
like nine kids, I mean, but, but
he was, he was one of the best

1532
01:33:15,100 --> 01:33:17,900
men that I ever met when I was
back there.

1533
01:33:18,700 --> 01:33:21,500
And he said something really
profound ones because we

1534
01:33:21,500 --> 01:33:25,800
compared notes to, you know,
what, each other believe.

1535
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,300
Because he'd only ever met
Mormon missionaries, he never

1536
01:33:29,300 --> 01:33:34,900
met one that just worked, right?
Yeah.

1537
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:40,700
And so we were talking once
about the last days and he said

1538
01:33:40,700 --> 01:33:43,500
something he's like, you know,
I've kind of taken this approach

1539
01:33:43,500 --> 01:33:46,800
that.
Yes, you know, we may not all

1540
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,600
make it out unscathed, but I
feel like if we have a real good

1541
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:56,900
handle on Jesus first coming,
his second coming Won't seem so

1542
01:33:56,900 --> 01:34:01,500
terrible for those acquainted
with him and and whatnot.

1543
01:34:01,500 --> 01:34:04,300
And I thought that was a
profound statement and

1544
01:34:04,300 --> 01:34:07,400
absolutely, I mean, can you
imagine seeing all this, seeing

1545
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:12,100
this world, fall apart, right?
And not believing something

1546
01:34:12,100 --> 01:34:17,200
better is coming, right, right.
And it's still as funny to me, I

1547
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,700
know a lot of people who are
active participating Latter-day

1548
01:34:20,700 --> 01:34:27,200
Saints, Who really don't see the
second coming as a reality.

1549
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:32,700
It's too like a fairy tale, but
I understand why it is.

1550
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,600
It's like the greatest fairy
tale ever accept it because of

1551
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,200
what I know, it's as real to me
as anything.

1552
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,200
Absolutely can't get around.
Can't deny.

1553
01:34:44,900 --> 01:34:48,400
And I see the absurdity.
I, I see the, I clearly see the

1554
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,100
absurdity of such a belief on
the one hand.

1555
01:34:51,100 --> 01:34:53,800
On the other hand, I am
absolutely certain.

1556
01:34:54,600 --> 01:35:00,100
Yeah, it will, it will happen as
a rational individual, right?

1557
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:03,600
You look back and you think, oh,
we got to be far away or

1558
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,200
whatever.
And yeah, and you're right.

1559
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:11,100
It is kind of a If you weren't a
Believer, it would seem like an

1560
01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:14,800
a, an absurd story.
But then, again, we're two guys

1561
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,000
who believed that there was a
young man in Upstate, New York,

1562
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:22,000
who saw God, right?
So, I mean, it's old plates,

1563
01:35:22,100 --> 01:35:23,500
right?
Right.

1564
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:30,100
So, so we're riddled with with,
with, you know, unbelievable

1565
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:35,300
stories.
But the fact that there have

1566
01:35:35,300 --> 01:35:40,900
been so many bull's-eyes within
the restored gospel It's

1567
01:35:40,900 --> 01:35:42,600
undeniable.
He's coming again.

1568
01:35:42,700 --> 01:35:46,100
You'll get here.
I mean with without that's where

1569
01:35:46,100 --> 01:35:48,000
I'm at.
That's where I'm at.

1570
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:52,600
You're sure.
So the the yeah, no, it's a

1571
01:35:52,600 --> 01:36:00,000
foregone conclusion, but I, I'll
tell you sometimes what I hear

1572
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:05,600
and I understand there have been
a lot of faults guesses in the

1573
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:09,000
past, mostly by other faiths.
Mhm.

1574
01:36:10,500 --> 01:36:13,600
Who will not be mentioned
because I don't have anybody

1575
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,900
right both in and out of
Mormonism, you know, oh, oh well

1576
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:19,800
and what?
You guess that he was going to

1577
01:36:19,808 --> 01:36:22,800
come in 1920.
Something, why didn't he?

1578
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,400
Oh he did.
He came for the second time in

1579
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,100
heaven.
That's what really happened.

1580
01:36:27,500 --> 01:36:31,700
We all know that's a cop-out, we
all know that's a cop-out, but

1581
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:36,100
and I think that's, that's part
of Satan's and game to to trick

1582
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:37,800
us enough times that we was
faith.

1583
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,700
And this is why this list of
scientists so critical, right?

1584
01:36:42,700 --> 01:36:45,800
Could not have come before now
because they're all those signs

1585
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:50,800
had yet to be fulfilled, right?
Significant number all of which,

1586
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:54,300
though, could be fulfilled in a
relatively short period of time.

1587
01:36:55,100 --> 01:36:57,800
Absolutely.
You know, the other thing I

1588
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:04,100
think, like, if you are, if
you're terrified by this, I

1589
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:08,900
think this is probably This this
checklist should be one of those

1590
01:37:08,900 --> 01:37:11,700
things that maybe makes you stop
and think for a second.

1591
01:37:12,500 --> 01:37:15,400
Maybe I just need to do some
more preparing, right?

1592
01:37:15,500 --> 01:37:20,200
Get acquainted with God.
Now don't procrastinate this,

1593
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,100
don't wait because look at one
one way or another you're going

1594
01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:25,800
to meet right?
Whether yeah that's true.

1595
01:37:25,900 --> 01:37:31,000
Whether whether he's coming
tomorrow or whether you pass

1596
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,000
away at some point, you're going
to meet him.

1597
01:37:35,300 --> 01:37:36,500
You're the thing.
I like to meet him.

1598
01:37:36,500 --> 01:37:39,000
Yeah.
Well death is not the end.

1599
01:37:39,500 --> 01:37:41,700
Neither you died in
righteousness for dying

1600
01:37:41,700 --> 01:37:43,800
wickedness.
It will be a merciful death, all

1601
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,000
the same, right?
And here are two things I like

1602
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,700
to point out when I have these
conversations, if they're

1603
01:37:49,700 --> 01:37:52,100
Latter-Day Saint and they're
like, yeah, I don't think he's

1604
01:37:52,100 --> 01:37:55,200
gonna come anytime soon.
I'm like, excuse me.

1605
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:59,600
What church do you belong to the
Church of Jesus Christ of

1606
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:03,500
Latter?
Yeah, we believe these are the

1607
01:38:03,500 --> 01:38:04,800
last days.
Days.

1608
01:38:04,900 --> 01:38:07,900
I think a lot of people just
want to put that on want to

1609
01:38:07,900 --> 01:38:12,000
think about it and I understand,
I mean not everybody can be as

1610
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:15,000
obsessive as you and I and Drew
another's, right?

1611
01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:18,900
But the other thing I like to
point out all the Earth could

1612
01:38:18,900 --> 01:38:21,100
never be destroyed.
I'm like, you know what?

1613
01:38:22,300 --> 01:38:27,700
Even geological Sciences.
Tell us that it has already

1614
01:38:27,700 --> 01:38:29,900
happened on this Earth at least
five times.

1615
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:34,500
Yeah.
The Earth has been destroyed

1616
01:38:35,100 --> 01:38:40,500
decimated and made over again.
Just like Joseph Smith said,

1617
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,400
yep, yep, kills us talked about
that.

1618
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,200
Yep, wow.
Anyway, yeah, no.

1619
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,900
I mean, look Yellowstone.
He, you can't believe it's

1620
01:38:49,900 --> 01:38:51,500
happened.
Well, it already has happened.

1621
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,100
I was going to say Sir that
Yellowstone has done some damage

1622
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:56,000
before.
Yeah.

1623
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,000
Right.
And it's entirely possible, it

1624
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,700
could do it again.
So and that was just a little

1625
01:39:01,700 --> 01:39:04,400
tea.
Five mass extinction events,

1626
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,100
right?
Life had to be started.

1627
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:09,000
A new world.
Had to be planted on this Earth.

1628
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,600
The world of Adam being the most
recent iteration of that.

1629
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:14,000
Yep.
Absolutely.

1630
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:18,100
I'm sorry, I'm mistaken.
The world of Noah is the most

1631
01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:21,800
recent iteration because the
world has already been the world

1632
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:25,000
of Adam was destroyed and the
world of Noah they had to

1633
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,500
reboot, right?
Yep.

1634
01:39:27,500 --> 01:39:30,700
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah it.

1635
01:39:30,700 --> 01:39:35,900
Yeah.
You just and I guess I I'd want

1636
01:39:35,900 --> 01:39:40,600
to end here, right?
Which is If you find this list,

1637
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:44,500
utterly terrifying, there's a
reason for it, right?

1638
01:39:46,300 --> 01:39:50,000
I like what you opened with the
great and Dreadful day of the

1639
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:56,800
Lord, I think, I think when
those, some of these other

1640
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,300
prophecies are fulfilled,
especially the ones that are

1641
01:39:59,300 --> 01:40:04,300
just brutal.
I think we have to stay fixed on

1642
01:40:04,300 --> 01:40:08,600
what the end is right?
What what, what the end goal or

1643
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,600
the end event is right?
The the reappear appearance of

1644
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:17,100
the Savior and that and to
remember understand that the

1645
01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:22,200
Fulfillment of the Earth being
restored to its paired cycle,

1646
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:29,200
Glory Far, and Away, ouch signs,
and outweighs any terrible thing

1647
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:30,400
that could happen to leading up
to it.

1648
01:40:31,900 --> 01:40:34,500
God is a loving God.
Merciful god.

1649
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,100
And the only reason he's
destroying the Earth is to

1650
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:39,800
preserve the righteous.
There was there was no other way

1651
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,300
for that to happen.
It will be so wicked.

1652
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,100
One of the most beautiful
scriptures, I think I can.

1653
01:40:48,700 --> 01:40:51,500
Always in the back of my mind
when I'm looking at stuff, like,

1654
01:40:51,500 --> 01:40:56,500
this is in Revelations where it
says animals wipe away every

1655
01:40:56,500 --> 01:40:59,000
tear.
I was just thinking of that very

1656
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,300
scripture, I promise you.
Yeah, I know, yeah, I don't

1657
01:41:02,300 --> 01:41:06,200
doubt that a bit Ken, where he
wipes away, every tear and takes

1658
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:12,000
away every sorrow.
That's what this all goes goes

1659
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:18,200
towards, right?
Is I think at that point will

1660
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:22,300
start to understand the
atonement in a much more

1661
01:41:22,300 --> 01:41:25,900
profound way and what it's
capable of doing the love of

1662
01:41:25,900 --> 01:41:28,700
God, thanks to, yeah, thanks to
our.

1663
01:41:28,700 --> 01:41:33,500
He wants to do what he wants to
do for us, what he has done for

1664
01:41:33,500 --> 01:41:34,900
us.
The think one of the things I

1665
01:41:34,907 --> 01:41:38,700
love about the Millennium is
when Christ comes again.

1666
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:41,900
How does he celebrate his
arrival?

1667
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:47,300
It's a feast, right?
A Feast, a banquet.

1668
01:41:47,500 --> 01:41:52,600
I mean, figuratively.
And I believe, literally, I do

1669
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:58,100
text for him.
That's that's fun to gather

1670
01:41:58,100 --> 01:42:01,600
together with his people.
Yep.

1671
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:05,200
And to just celebrate being
together.

1672
01:42:05,500 --> 01:42:08,000
Living together.
I was reading 3rd Nephi again.

1673
01:42:08,500 --> 01:42:12,500
When Christ was amongst the
people about a foot, When he

1674
01:42:12,500 --> 01:42:17,700
appeared and what it was that
made him weep he wept for, he

1675
01:42:17,700 --> 01:42:24,200
was so happy to to feel of their
love and to be able to love them

1676
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:28,800
fully that he wept to have that
kind of insight into the type of

1677
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:33,700
person that our savior is and
why extension.

1678
01:42:33,700 --> 01:42:37,400
Our father is is very touching
to me.

1679
01:42:38,500 --> 01:42:40,300
Yeah.
The thinking they're they're not

1680
01:42:40,300 --> 01:42:42,900
in person, they're not
Impersonal.

1681
01:42:42,900 --> 01:42:46,600
They are very personable.
They want to hold children.

1682
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,700
They want to laugh.
I want to play.

1683
01:42:48,700 --> 01:42:53,500
They want to sing with us to us
for us.

1684
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:57,700
We want to eat with us?
Yeah, yeah.

1685
01:42:57,700 --> 01:43:00,000
Yeah.
Can you imagine anything more

1686
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:03,800
wonderful.
Well I think I think you would I

1687
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:05,800
pass in five dollar bills back
and forth.

1688
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:07,600
That's right.
That's right there.

1689
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,200
Yeah, exactly exactly.
Yeah, no.

1690
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,200
I really do.
I think.

1691
01:43:13,300 --> 01:43:19,600
And I think you're right is we
we tend to look at God and we

1692
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,900
think and the Savior as well and
we tend to think of them as far

1693
01:43:23,900 --> 01:43:31,800
off and not personable and not
Not someone that we could

1694
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:36,300
identify with or whatever.
Well, it's a conundrum because

1695
01:43:36,300 --> 01:43:39,800
they're so great and So
Glorious, we cannot even bear

1696
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,200
their physical presence, right?
But their greatness, and glory

1697
01:43:44,300 --> 01:43:48,100
is exceeded by their love.
That's, yeah, that's the crazy

1698
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:53,200
thing their love for us, their
desire to be with us.

1699
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:59,300
And to share Joy with us exceeds
their Glory.

1700
01:43:59,300 --> 01:44:03,700
I mean it's part of their Glory.
I've only ever shared this story

1701
01:44:03,700 --> 01:44:08,200
with my wife but I feel prompted
to share it here.

1702
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:15,000
When I was still in the LDS
church, I just come into the

1703
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:20,300
church.
I was I was probably all of you

1704
01:44:20,300 --> 01:44:28,400
know, 2021 maybe and I was
giving this home assignment a

1705
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:33,600
home teaching assignment to a
woman named Camille and Camille

1706
01:44:35,900 --> 01:44:41,100
was just she was an absolute
rock star in a lot of ways.

1707
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:46,000
I mean, she just lived the
gospels best as she could.

1708
01:44:46,700 --> 01:44:50,400
And Camille got diagnosed with
stage four, cancer.

1709
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:55,100
I can't remember what kind.
And so, it was me and a member

1710
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:57,600
of the bishopric who were
assigned as her home teachers

1711
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:01,400
and I felt horribly awkward, you
know, what am I going to say to

1712
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,900
her?
What, what can I say to her one?

1713
01:45:03,900 --> 01:45:07,500
I'm brand-new was a Mormon.
I don't, I'm still figuring out

1714
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:13,100
the doctrine at that point.
And what I didn't, I went over

1715
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:17,200
there trying to be as of much
Service as I could be right,

1716
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:21,200
anything she needed.
Yeah but she taught me way more

1717
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:27,800
than I did for her at any any
sort of measure.

1718
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:35,600
And I remember when she was
close, she was probably, I don't

1719
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,900
know.
I'll bet you, it wasn't more

1720
01:45:38,900 --> 01:45:42,800
than 24 hours.
Before that, that she asked me

1721
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,600
and my home teaching, companion
to go over and meet with her.

1722
01:45:47,300 --> 01:45:53,300
And when we went, she was
remarkably alert at that stage.

1723
01:45:54,400 --> 01:46:00,500
and, she said something that
that has stuck with me forever

1724
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:11,300
and she said, I had a visitation
last night. and, I saw the

1725
01:46:11,300 --> 01:46:21,000
Savior and he is so warm. and
he, he talked to me at length

1726
01:46:21,100 --> 01:46:28,300
about what I can expect.
And I know some will say, you

1727
01:46:28,300 --> 01:46:34,100
know, it was medication or it
was the bodies act in dying, but

1728
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:37,400
in feeling and she didn't have a
lot of family either, she was

1729
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,200
adopted, she had a real hard
wife.

1730
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:47,500
But she prevailed right?
And And I could see the Savior

1731
01:46:47,500 --> 01:46:53,600
coming to someone like that.
And her descriptions of him.

1732
01:46:54,300 --> 01:46:57,900
Just speaking with her just
talking with her and I don't

1733
01:46:57,900 --> 01:47:03,100
dare divulge what it is.
She said on the podcast here, in

1734
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:11,800
its entirety But it painted a
picture. of a man whose And I

1735
01:47:11,808 --> 01:47:17,700
say man with quotes right he is
the same but a man a person full

1736
01:47:17,700 --> 01:47:22,900
of love and caring and the thing
she said to me that stuck out

1737
01:47:22,900 --> 01:47:27,500
the most is I knew him.
And he knew me.

1738
01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:35,500
And he was way more familiar
than I ever knew who he was.

1739
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:41,200
And so as we get to this point
these points, where things get

1740
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:45,200
dicey in this world and things
get rough, whether it's on this

1741
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:49,100
stage at, we've been talking
about the macro or the micro.

1742
01:47:49,700 --> 01:47:55,600
Yeah, Our Saviors, everyone kept
our savior stands, able and

1743
01:47:55,600 --> 01:48:03,500
willing, To heal broken hearts.
If it's his will to heal bodies

1744
01:48:04,100 --> 01:48:07,500
and I think that's what we
should look forward to.

1745
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:12,500
We should we should look forward
to that verse in Revelation, we

1746
01:48:12,500 --> 01:48:18,400
should look forward to being as
the Nephites were and watching

1747
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,500
miracles happen at his coming
with that.

1748
01:48:20,500 --> 01:48:25,000
He bless his children and heals
the sick that 3rd Nephi account

1749
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:28,700
which gives the single best
description of his Persona.

1750
01:48:28,900 --> 01:48:32,300
Yeah, absolutely is.
Is what he wants.

1751
01:48:32,300 --> 01:48:35,100
And the fact, you know, what is
your tell me about this woman?

1752
01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:41,200
And I don't doubt it in a
slightest of the billions upon

1753
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,600
billions of beings for whom he
is responsible.

1754
01:48:45,100 --> 01:48:50,100
He wants to take time
specifically to appear to this

1755
01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:53,500
one person.
Yes, one week mortal, and to

1756
01:48:53,500 --> 01:48:57,400
comfort her and to love her.
Yeah, and no point was made

1757
01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:00,600
about our vicarious ordinances
in the temple.

1758
01:49:00,900 --> 01:49:04,600
We don't do them in batches, you
don't do them in groups.

1759
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:10,400
We do them individually and we
say their names out loud in the

1760
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,900
temples for the first time
sometimes in Polonia.

1761
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:20,100
Yeah, because salvation is an
individual work.

1762
01:49:20,500 --> 01:49:24,400
Absolutely.
Absolutely 10.

1763
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,200
It's always awesome to talk to
you brother.

1764
01:49:27,700 --> 01:49:28,900
Thank you.
Bye-bye.

1765
01:49:29,500 --> 01:49:30,900
I always have so much fun with
You.

1766
01:49:31,300 --> 01:49:32,500
Yep.
Yep.

1767
01:49:32,500 --> 01:49:34,100
Let's do it again before too
long.

1768
01:49:34,700 --> 01:49:36,000
Okay.
All right.

1769
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,900
Yeah, you have the list so
whenever you feel the edge, let

1770
01:49:38,900 --> 01:49:40,600
me know.
We got some stuff out there for

1771
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:41,900
you folks.
You're going to do you're going

1772
01:49:41,900 --> 01:49:45,200
to the stuff that's coming.
So awesome.

1773
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:47,800
All right Ken let's do it again
soon.

1774
01:49:49,300 --> 01:49:50,500
We'll do it.
All right.

1775
01:49:50,500 --> 01:49:52,300
Bye everybody.
See you.

1776
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,700
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1777
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,700
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