Episode #68: Exploring the Feast Of Shavuot/The Feast Of Pentecost, The Conclusion Of The Jewish Calendar Series W/Joshua Erickson

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There are many teachings in the
restored gospel that make us

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unique.
However, none of those could be

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as important as our emphasis on
making covenants with God, on

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this episode of the podcast, I
have Joshua Erickson on again as

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we conclude our Jewish calendar
series by wrapping up with the

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Feast of Shavuot.
Also called The Feast of

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Pentecost.
We break down its scriptural

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history and its significance.
In terms of making covenants

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with God, stick around for that
and more on this episode of the

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Mormon Renegade podcast, There
is no doubt as a general rule,

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Mormons are a real social people
and there's no better place to

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connect with other people than
that conference is devoted to

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Mormonism with that said,
there's one coming up that I

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can't recommend highly enough
and that is the restoration tour

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conference.
It is happening this year on May

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26th and 27th and wind in Utah.
Many speakers.

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You will hear.
There have been on this podcast.

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They include Jacob adrene
Hannah, Stoddard Taylor, Smith

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Joshua Erickson, Kimberly Smith,
myself and more.

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Go to Restoration Torah
conference dot-org, or click on

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the link in this episode page
notes to find out how you can

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attend.
You're listening to the Mormon

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Renegade podcast.
Joshua, there's big stuff coming

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going on man.
Sounds like you're going to be

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be hosting the restoration tour
conference, right?

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Yeah.
That's right.

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Not mean necessarily but the the
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course, I'm involved in the
secretary for the zarahemla

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foundation.
But yeah, this will be, we're

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coming up on the restoration
Torah conference and this will

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be our fourth year, nice of
doing it.

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The restoration Torah conference
this year is going to be The

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26th and 27th of May, which is a
Friday and Saturday and those

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are the, those are the two days,
right?

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Before the Feast of Shavuot,
which is what we're talking

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about now, which is what we're
talking about today.

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Yep.
So which is why we're bringing

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up the conference.
So it's kind of part of our

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Shavuot Observance, let's say
our celebration and I said it's

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been going on for we're going on
our fourth year now and we have

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some really interesting
speakers.

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The theme this year is going to
be the Torah which is for those

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of you are listening, you don't
know, the Torah is the five

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books of Moses Genesis through
Deuteronomy.

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So the Torah in the Doctrine and
Covenants and church history and

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there's a lot there and we're
going to have some excellent

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speakers.
Hers, as I mentioned, Hannah

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Stoddard, Kimberly Smith Taylor
Smith, Jacob adrene yourself.

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Yep, I'm going to be there
myself as well and so and a

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bunch of other good folks to.
So yeah, I highly recommend it.

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I was there last year and it was
just absolutely awesome.

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I really enjoyed myself while I
was there now.

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Real quick.
What about cost was it cost?

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Yeah.
I'm glad you asked that.

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The conference is free.
So anyone can attend, we do ask

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for and even encourage
donations, but we do not want

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finances to keep anyone from
coming.

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There's, there's no pressure, no
Stigma attached.

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If you can't donate or or can
only donate a little or

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whatever, but we do want people
to come and participate.

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It's going to be we're going to
gather in person.

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It's going to be in Lindon Utah.
We're having it at the camera.

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Adam e, which is where we've had
at the last last year's as well.

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Though, the Kimber Academy
formerly was in Lehi, at least

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this branch of the can break out
of me, but they move to Linden

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and we decided to go with their
locations.

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Still, this is our Hamill
Foundation is not associated or

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affiliated with the Kimber
Academy, but they have been very

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accommodating and so that's
awesome.

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Yeah.
And then what about a website or

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something that they can go to
that table?

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Yes.
You want to read about the

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conference, get tickets, go to
Restoration, Torah conference

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dot, org orgy, restoration
toward conference dot-org, and

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there, you'll find information
about the conference.

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You can see past conferences,
you can see the speakers for

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this conference, get the
schedule, the speaker's, you

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know, the titles of their talks.
So kind of what they're going to

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be speaking on.
And also there's a link there to

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register.
You can also, Donate their to

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there's information about
donating when you go to

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register.
Keep in mind that there are

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several different kinds of
tickets.

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So we it's going to be two days
and the tickets for Friday.

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And the tickets for Saturday are
separate tickets.

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So you're coming to both and be
sure that you click on both

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those options of, and, of
course, you can come to one or

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the other or both.
We also are going to be serving.

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Lunch there for those who are
attending.

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So if you want to hang out
speak, talk with the speakers,

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you have questions about the
presentations or just want to

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meet with other interesting
people, then that would be a

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nice opportunity to do that.
And then also there's two other

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tickets, there's to get for a
conference Journal, which is

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actually a going to be a
paperback, but physical copy of

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the presentations will make a
form of the presentations so

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that you can refer to that later
on for further study or

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whatever.
And also, there will be a zoom

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option.
To we prefer people attend in

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person, we can have the
fellowship there, but for some

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people, it's just impractical.
There are people who are out of

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state who will be attending by
Zoom.

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So nice, you know, as
fundamentalist especially

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fundamentalist that have come
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There's a lot of missing the
social aspect.

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A lot of times right there can
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Yeah and he isolated.
Yeah.

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And so these kind of things are
in my opinion, just super

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important, right?
It's going to let you meet other

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fundamentalist, it's going to
it's going to help you adjust

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widen, those circles.
And and I think it's one of

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those things that can't be
overstated enough.

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Just how important they are when
they come around.

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Yeah.
And then like things like the

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Book of Mormon evidence
conference which Which is great.

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I love going.
There's very few things just for

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fundamentalist, so to speak
right now.

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Obviously, we have a couple
speakers coming up at that, that

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that are mainstream.
Yes, and this is great.

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This is not, this is not a
fundamentalist thing, right?

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So and actually, I'm glad that
this kind of brought up got

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brought up because a lot of
times when you go to someone

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else's event you kind of do
know, kind of feel like the the

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new guy, you know, and we're not
quite sure what the the normal

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has social cues are and things
or how the meeting is going to

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be run and stuff.
But this is this is really a

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non-denominational thing and
we're going to have folks there

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from half a dozen different,
branches of the restoration,

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both in the audience and also at
the pulpit giving talks.

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So don't feel Don't feel like an
outsider, everyone.

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Everyone there is new and it's
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A good chance, too. meet and rub
shoulders with other good,

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folks, absolutely fellowship and
some friendship and yeah you

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know, and Social intellectual
and spiritual stimulation.

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Absolutely, absolutely.
No, it's always a good time.

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And I encourage everyone
listening to go.

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I think it's absolutely
fantastic.

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There are still tickets
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Yes.
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I think, actually, I have not
looked at the count recently but

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the venue has room for several
hundred.

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Okay, we're probably right now,
the pickets are probably at I

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would say 50 or 60.
So we've got plenty right.

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Yeah, good deal.
Good deal.

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Go get your tickets folks and
that's a good time.

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You'll you'll be glad you went.
So, So Ron to I'm not uh, I

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pronounce it.
This time I screwed it up.

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Is a great.
You the Greek, the Pentecost

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Anacostia.
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We're we're, we're onto the
Feast of Pentecost also known as

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shovel.
I won't even pretend to try to

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post shovel.
It's an easy one.

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But yeah, Shavuot is is the
Hebrew word for weeks.

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One week in Hebrew is Shibuya
and then we pluralize it.

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You pluralize in Hebrew, when
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then, oftentimes, you add a note
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So, like Sukkot for example, a
single Tabernacle is a sukkah

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and Tabernacles is Sukkot, okay?
And a single week is shoveling

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and weeks is Shavuot, and then
when you have masculine terms,

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then often times their
pluralized the e, Oh yeah, like

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Elohim.
Yep, your arm for the as a

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common example that people know.
So why is it called Shavuot or

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weeks because of the timing and
Shavuot is is an interesting

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piece because of all the
biblical, all the biblical holy

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days, they all have a specific
date associated with them.

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So Passover is on the 14th day
of the first month, Feast of

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unleavened bread.
Bread begins on the 15th day of

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the first month Hanukkah is on
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Yom Kippur is on the tenth day
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And so, on through all the piece
that we've talked about, they

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all have that specific date
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shovel of travel.
It's Unique because you actually

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determine when Shavuot is by by
counting seven weeks.

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That's where we get Shavuot
seven weeks and, and the day.

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So 50, which is 50 days, which
is where the Greek Pentecost

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comes from count, 50 days from
when The Barley was harvested

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for the near the beginning of
the barley Harvest now.

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So which means that there is a
little bit of variability to

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when exactly shovel load fall.
Owls on the calendar and there's

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actually controversy about that
that goes back to ancient times,

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the Pharisees and the Sadducees
actually disagreed about when

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Shavuot should be observed.
But they were close to one

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another.
It was, it was basically, it was

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The Barley Harvest, and it was
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begins, or the, the first, the
sheet, the first Sheaf of barley

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is offered in connection with
Passover and the Feast of

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unleavened bread happens around
that time and then then we count

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those seven weeks or 50 days.
Those you can count it either

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way and you should end up at the
same date and that is The Feast

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of shuffling.
So now, why are we, why are we

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having a conference during
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Why is that a, why is that a,
you know, an appropriate thing

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to do?
Well, in the Torah there's three

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times in the year when they're
supposed to everyone's supposed

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to gather.
And those three times R1 in the

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springtime at the Feast of
unleavened bread to in the fall

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time at the Feast of Tabernacles
and then and we kind of as as

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Latter-Day Saints as Mormons we
kind of do those or at least the

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LDS church does.
And I think a lot of the other

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branches kind of either have
their own conferences, you know,

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in the spring and in the fall
April and October and they don't

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always As match up exactly with
unleavened bread and

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Tabernacles, but there's
definitely a very strong Echo

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there.
If you're listening, you can

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hear the echo of those ancient
Israelite things.

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So but then, the third one is in
is kind of cost.

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And that's kind of in early like
late spring, Early.

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Some of maybe we might even say
that it's usually before the

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solstice so still in so late
spring, I guess.

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And no one really was doing
anything for that.

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So I figured we talked here.
So let's have a, let's get

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together and talk about the
Torah and and specifically list

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we want to talk about it through
the lens of the restoration.

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We want, we want to we want to
understand the Torah through the

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lens of the restoration and
likewise we want to understand

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the restoration through the lens
of the Torah because it could

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because there ought to be a
Harmony through the revelations

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that God has given throughout
all the dispensations.

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And and I have found that there
certainly is and those things

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mesh together in the beautiful
way and there's amazing things

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that we can learn and so that's
what this conference is going to

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be all about.
I don't know if I mentioned it,

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I think I mentioned if I didn't,
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This year, the theme of the
conference is going to be the

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Torah in the Doctrine and
Covenants and church history.

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So there's quite a bit there and
on this podcast in other other

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feast days, I've consistently
brought up applications and

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fulfillments these.
Holy days in light of the

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restoration, you know,
significant dates or happenings

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or Difficult doctrinal things
that just kind of mesh

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beautifully with these.
So so I think there's some rich

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or there to mine as far as this
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So, so, you know, what is, what
is the shadow all about?

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What is it celebrating well?
Like, many of the things,

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there's just kind of multiple
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There's kind of a physical
understanding, their spiritual

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understandings and oftentimes,
there's there's remembrances

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where we're commemorating
something that's happened in the

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past something that God has done
for for us who are people.

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And also, we're looking forward
to the future and prophetic

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fulfillment of these things.
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level, the Feast of Shavuot is
the beginning of the wheat

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Harvest.
So that, that 50-day count that

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kind of starts around Passover
and unleavened bread, that's

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kind of the beginning of the
barley Harvest and that goes for

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those seven weeks and then the
wheat kind of comes in that's

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the next and and shovel out kind
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that.
So so it's a time to bring

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offerings to the temple in
ancient times No, we're those

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always sacrificed or was there
like a storehouse or something

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for the poor that someone that
would go into?

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Yeah, absolutely Storehouse for
the poor.

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Yeah, sacrifices of animals were
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Only part of it actually.
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most at least, animal sacrifices
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and wine, you know, and other
other.

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Err Commodities in sense of
various kinds, right?

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Offered along with them.
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would go to the maintenance of
the temple and the priests that

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were running it full time and
also, and also they would be

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Storehouse exactly right where
that stuff would go to care for

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the poor.
And so on, Wow, it tells you how

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bad things must have gotten in
the savior's time that he Like

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he then needed to cleanse the
temple, right?

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I mean, how bad did things get
to where probably I can only

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imagine that Storehouse was
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Some what I mean?
If he's upset about the money

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going on in there?
Yeah, I don't think there was.

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You know, it's like so many
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The, the thing itself is is not
a good nor bad right when he is

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neutral, right?
Money's not the problem.

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The love of money is the is the
realization, right?

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Yeah, so and we could, you can
say that about so many other

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about about every inanimate
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So yeah, I think that there was
definitely abuse is happening in

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the temple.
I think people were, you know,

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who knows what was happening.
I mean, there's, I've Heard lots

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of conjectures.
I even heard one the other day

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says, that the there in the
temple that they were taking

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people's gold and silver, and
exchanging info fiat currency

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and like, giving them paper
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I don't know the reference for
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paper script that says, you
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ounces of silver or whatever,
and Jesus thought that was

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wicked.
You and I, if that was what was

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happening, I would agree.
But anyway, there's some sort of

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corruption was happening.
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And that was, that's
interesting.

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When he, he clean cleanse the
his father's house as clean my

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father's house, he turned into
it a den of Thieves, right?

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Yep.
But that was a, even that Has.

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Is connected to these because
that was during Passover, right?

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And are leading up to it and
you're supposed to clean your

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houses from 11:00.
So he was just keeping the

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Commandments.
He's cleaning the house of the

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wickedness, right?
You know of 11 which ends in the

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spiritual counterpart.
Counterpart of Lebanon is is

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corruption, right?
Because these false ideas and

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and and saying and so on, at
least that's the kind of the

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standard understanding.
So so we can understand that to

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the lens of these feast days.
It's amazing, amazing.

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How it all ties together.
Now so that's so the physic,

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there's this physical component
which is the hardest and there's

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a spiritual component to do and
Shavuot is is basically Covenant

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making name for God.
And the the one that's most

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commonly thought of is the
Covenant at Mount Sinai.

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When God came down smoke fire
lightning, right?

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The the sound of the shofar
rushing of Mighty Wind and a

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frightening experience.
Now in Exodus, it doesn't

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actually say that this was at
trouble road but it's it's very

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tempting to connect these events
and And I believe that's

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correct.
As I said Shavuot doesn't have a

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specific day but when you, when
you start counting around the

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middle of the first month,
that's when Passover and

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unleavened bread, begin you
start counting in the middle of

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the first month and you go, 50
days, you end up like in the

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first week of the third month,
right?

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At the beginning of the third
month and when they come into

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the Wilderness at like the base
of Mount Sinai, says, it was

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right at the beginning of the
third month.

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One of this.
Happen.

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So, so beautiful things there.
Of course, from a premier

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restoration point of view.
Well, let me back up in the

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scriptures this event, what
happened at Mount Sinai is

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symbolically a marriage. this is
when Is when Jehovah took the

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people of Israel as his bride
and married them.

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And the Covenant that was given
was a covenant of marriage and

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you know the law that was given
was there ketubah.

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So ketubah is the Jewish wedding
contract, right.

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But the beautiful thing about
that is that this in, in the

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Jewish mind, this is kind of
like the This is the Coleman it

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was.
It's almost the culmination of

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Salvation.
They're looking forward to the

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Messiah coming as well, which
will be the culmination, but

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receiving the receiving the
Torah.

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That's that's like you like it's
a done deal.

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Like the marriages is complete
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And so when you look at the what
happened to Israel, they went

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right through these first
principles and ordinances of the

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Gospel, you know?
Go from there in Egypt, which is

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sin and bondage and all that.
And they exercised faith in

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Jesus is the lamb and they don't
do anything at first.

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Except I mean, they do put you
put the blood on their door but

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basically just wait and watch
after they've put the blood of

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Jesus on themselves on their
houses then they wait and watch

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and at that takes them, that
gets them out of Egypt and

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that's kind of repentance is
Faith and then there's

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repentance A sentence like you
don't apply the blood of Jesus

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and then stay where you are.
No.

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Right.
Repentance requires you to move?

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Yeah, rip trip to turn at least
to turn around and face a

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different direction, right?
Yeah, I know.

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And it talks about that Paul
talks about that quite a bit,

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right?
As if you're a Believer, you

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should expect to see these
things, right?

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And young people doing these
things and it, to be honest with

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you, it was one of the drawers
to Mormonism, right?

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For me.
I have this the rest of

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Christendom kind of I shouldn't
say the rest but the vast

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majority of Christendom has this
idea of you you accept Jesus

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into your heart and from there
you just show up and throw a

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couple bucks in the offering
plate and you're good to go.

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Okay yeah yeah which is weird
for me because I'm lazy enough

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that that sounded like a good
deal up front, right?

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But yeah, no I thought there
should have been a little more

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to Salvation and you're going to
be a A saint.

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Yeah.
And it requires relationship.

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Yeah.
And it requires some work on

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your part.
Which.

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Yeah.
And relationships to us.

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Yep, absolutely.
So, so on the first day of

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unleavened bread, they they
exercise, you know, the

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principle of repentance and they
leave Egypt and then, but, you

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know, Egypt has we talked about
this in the past, everything

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right?
Egypt Egypt represents your

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friends.
We're a spiritual sense is well,

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your friends and your enemies,
both whoo.

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You do not want to see you do
good.

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Because who knows?
Why?

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Because they're missing out on
their, they're drinking buddy,

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because it makes them feel bad
about their own sins to see

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someone else repenting and
they'd rather just whatever it.

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Whatever.
The reason is, there are people

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that when you repent, they will
want to drag you back and so

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Anyway.
So, of course, we knew Pharaoh

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eventually gives Chase.
And on the seventh day of

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unleavened bread, this is when
they go through the Red Sea.

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And so, they're actually
baptized in a symbolic sense.

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Israel is baptized there.
And of course, the Egyptians are

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drowned and washed away, and
they finally leave Egypt behind.

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And then not only are they
baptized, but they also have

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gift of the Holy Ghost because
they have this Pillar of Fire,

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right?
Fire is connected in the

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scriptures.
Symbolically with the Holy

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Ghost?
Holy Ghost is fire.

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The Holy Ghost is also.
When right, a are right and so

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they have a cloud and fire to
guide them through the

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Wilderness and the Wilderness
is, of course, just this

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Enduring to the end kind of,
right?

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Which is Gospel principles to
write that comes next, is you

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just, and you just keep walking
the walk.

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And, and then eventually they
get to the mountain and it takes

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them 50 days from Passover until
they get to the mountain.

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And then, and then there comes
their marriage, right?

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And this is this, just goes
along with with Mormonism to,

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right?
You go through the ordinances

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And you know the highest
ordinance is.

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His marriage is C, right?
Yeah.

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Day.
That is the crowning.

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Well it's almost the crown
almost the crowns are loosing,

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the crowning and then but
there's there's a thickening

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long second lien which actually
is is in story of Shavuot as

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well because God gives them the
Covenant.

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And then he says, now everyone
come up to the mountain and I

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want to meet with you actually
face to face.

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Now that's that's where Israel
said, this is, this is getting

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to these relationships, too
serious for us, right?

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Right.
And said we want most go up for

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us, right?
And so he does and they reject

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that that offer.
But that was that was extended

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and and so Moses goes up, he
actually gets tablets and brings

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them down and of course, by then
the people have Just broken the

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Covenant.
Barry just made didn't take them

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long at all.
I mean, I like to be called the

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children of Israel for.
You know, I look at it two ways,

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right?
First off I'm like morons.

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I mean, he just let you through
an ocean, right?

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He led you through the Red Sea,
do you, he's there, he's

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present, he's working, you know,
and the other part of me though,

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makes me wonder just How much of
that was just societal scarring?

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Oh, absolutely, where where
they're like, you know, because

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they don't people have been
slaves.

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Yeah, a do not know how to think
for themselves.

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And they've had this guy Moses
around, who's kind of been

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calling the shots?
Yeah, and now he's gone.

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And it's almost like a reversion
back into to that old way of

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thinking.
Yeah, yeah.

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No, that's exactly right.
I mean, the Ation really was and

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this is, this is the invitation
to any free people write in a

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way.
Is, how does that I want a

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nation of priests priests?
Yeah, yep.

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And and but children, Israel
said we just want weeks Moses.

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We just want you to be our the
guy we just want to, you know,

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abdicate our responsibility.
To, yeah.

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And that's the, that's the
that's the struggle.

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That's always a struggle between
freedom and tyranny is, will you

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hand over your rights and
responsibilities to some guy

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that you think is going to do
right by you?

449
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,300
Or you going to take
responsibility for yourself and

450
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:17,700
your actions and meet and go up
and meet this God yourself?

451
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,300
You know, I speak.
Yeah.

452
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:21,800
No, I, yeah, I absolutely find
it.

453
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,900
Fascinating that, that you're
right.

454
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:28,200
It is the It's the Crux of the
matter.

455
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,200
And as you look back through the
breath of human history,

456
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,200
Mankind's default operating
system so to speak, is that is

457
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,500
one of tyranny, right?
Being rude as it is even even

458
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:42,100
default.
I think I like how you said that

459
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:46,700
even if you look at you know a
quote a benevolent dictator,

460
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:48,900
right?
It's still a tyranny of some

461
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:52,100
sort, whether you find it
Pleasant or not, it's still

462
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:54,100
somebody else making those
decisions for you.

463
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,500
And Took me a long time to wrap
my head around this thing where

464
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:02,600
you know it speaks of freedom
and that sort of thing.

465
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,500
And I'm like how can that be
Freedom, right?

466
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:08,900
Because you're you're still
under, you know, the you know

467
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:11,100
the Yoke of Christ sodas being,
right?

468
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,700
The thing is is that there's no
real freedom without some sort

469
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:21,700
of discipline or else tyranny.
Again, begins to come forward

470
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:25,800
Terrain in the insanity.
So I think there's so many

471
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,800
interesting parallels and just
as a side note I took my top

472
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,700
that I'll be giving in at the
tour conference.

473
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,100
Way, I did, I hadn't planned on
as I sat down to write, it went

474
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:42,400
to divide itself.
It would it did write itself in

475
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,500
a way like I have the text all
rode out before I inserted the

476
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:48,500
pictures or anything else,
right?

477
00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:53,700
Um, but there were a couple
things that I found interesting

478
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:57,500
especially as we've been talking
about the the the Feast of

479
00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:05,200
Pentecost here is that my talk
is really heavily Laden.

480
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:07,400
Did with Laden with the idea of
covenants.

481
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,800
Again really heavily weighted
very appropriate.

482
00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:14,400
Yeah.
Which I had no idea, right?

483
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,900
And then to hear you talk about
it.

484
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:19,400
It's just you know one of those
coincidences that aren't really

485
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,800
coincidence.
It's right.

486
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:23,200
Yeah, I just happened to have
bumped my head that morning and

487
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,700
was listening to the spirit, so
doesn't happen often.

488
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:28,600
But when it does, it's always
works out.

489
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,700
So, yeah, I find it interesting
that there's so much of Israel

490
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:37,200
story, that's our story.
So yeah.

491
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,200
And and I think, I think this is
just one of those continuation

492
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,100
of that that we are there.
If not, if not literal

493
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:50,500
descendants, which I kind of
think many of us are, if not, if

494
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:54,600
not literal, we are certainly
the spiritual inheritors, you

495
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,700
know.
I think there's something I

496
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:57,300
think we are.
If you look at all the things

497
00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:01,600
that Joseph said about Ephraim
being here and like I said, I've

498
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:07,700
had a couple of friends from who
are Jewish, who said, oh yeah,

499
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:11,100
that's the reason we feel so
comfortable in America is

500
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:13,800
because there are times.
We feel like we're amongst

501
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,600
family here.
Yeah, so, yeah, I definitely do

502
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,400
believe that there.
There's those literal

503
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,100
descendants, you know, it's the
Book of Mormon, The Book of

504
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:31,600
Mormon calls us and talk, right?
I don't think that means.

505
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,600
I don't think that means
anything about our lineage

506
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,200
though, right?
Because we know we know what

507
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,200
tribes Lehi, and Ishmael were
phone.

508
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:49,800
They were they were just
effects, right?

509
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:53,500
Lehi was from a NASA.
Ishmael was from Ephraim.

510
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:02,000
And yet Nephi refers to like the
descendants of Lehi in the Book

511
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,600
of Mormon, they are referred to
as Jews, right?

512
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:11,300
And But actually is a criticism
of the book one for some people

513
00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:14,800
because they're not from the
tribe of Judah, but that's not

514
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,400
what Jews means.
It can carry that connotation

515
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,600
but Jew means from the kingdom
of Judah, okay?

516
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:25,200
In other words, the southern
Kingdom.

517
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,700
So, everyone, from the southern
Kingdom, everyone who comes

518
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:32,500
from, the southern kingdom is
June, and we can see that in the

519
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,200
good old Bible, right Esther and
Mordecai.

520
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:42,600
In the Book of Esther, they are
explicitly mentioned as being

521
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,700
from The Tribe of Benjamin, and
yet, they are Jews because

522
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:49,000
they're not because they're from
the tribe of Judah, but because

523
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,700
they're from the southern
Kingdom of Judah, right?

524
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:54,100
So, that's a, that's a national
designation.

525
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Not a lineal designation,
gotcha.

526
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,600
So, when the Book of Mormon
calls us, Gentiles, it's not

527
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,500
saying something about our
lineage is saying something

528
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:04,200
about the nation's that we came
from.

529
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,000
Okay.
Alright.

530
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,400
November Gentiles.
Because We came from Gentile

531
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,800
Nations dude.
I'm so because we're Gentiles by

532
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,000
Lincoln, right?
I'm so glad you brought that up

533
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,600
because that's something I've
struggled with.

534
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,500
I'm like, how are we both?
Because with most things, it's

535
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:20,400
funny.
My cock starts out this way to,

536
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:23,600
with most things.
I tend to answer a question or

537
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,900
ask a question.
Yeah, and figuring.

538
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:29,300
It's an either/or answer and
usually, it's not, usually it's

539
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:31,699
in and quit, you know, the
answer.

540
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,500
Right.
And I think, yeah, that's

541
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:38,300
beautiful because I've wondered
that All times myself.

542
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:41,699
Like how are we both?
Both Gentiles, right.

543
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:43,600
We hear about that.
In the Book of Mormon, the

544
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,100
coming forth of, you know, the
Stick of Joseph onto the the

545
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:49,300
Gentiles.
Yeah.

546
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:54,300
But then, You go, like 3rd Nephi
16 and it talks about.

547
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,900
Well, when the Gentiles fully
reject, the gospel, then we'll

548
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:00,800
go back to the house of Israel.
And I'm like, okay.

549
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,500
So does that mean if we've
screwed up as a people, does

550
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:07,100
that mean that we can't access
those anymore?

551
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,900
Well, that doesn't make sense.
That doesn't fit with who I know

552
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,600
God is.
So yeah, no, I think that's

553
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,500
beautiful the way you said that
it doesn't necessarily speak of

554
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:17,500
our lineage, more of our
nationality.

555
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:20,400
Yeah, so I think there's there's
an interplay between.

556
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,400
Yep.
Two senses of both Gentile can

557
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,600
be used in two senses, right
there is a genealogical and also

558
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,300
a national sense and also Israel
and you those also have both

559
00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:36,500
nationalistic and genealogical
senses of the word.

560
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:42,100
So I want actually while we're
talking about Sia it is changing

561
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,600
the subject a little no not
good.

562
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,500
I want to I want to mention job
LL laws.

563
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,900
Have you heard of Jebel?
Ali has I have not so the Bella

564
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:56,200
laws is a mountain in Saudi
Arabia.

565
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,600
Which I believe is the correct
location for Mount Zion, okay?

566
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,000
Which is there's some
controversy over this.

567
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,500
And, you know, if you look in
the maps in the back of the LDS

568
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:17,000
Bible, it will, it has a little
pin there on a Mount Sinai.

569
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:22,300
With a question mark by I think
because it is kind of disputed.

570
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:27,300
But that is the, that is the
traditional Christian view but

571
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:30,900
that just came about from
Constantine's mother Saint

572
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:33,600
Catherine.
She went through and said this

573
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,100
mountain here is, was where the
children of Israel, you know,

574
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,200
receive the Covenant at Sinai.
She did that in a lot of places

575
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,700
in the Middle East.
She has prolific at being able,

576
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,900
she was either a Seer or she was
just directly Inhale octane are

577
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:51,300
either way.
I mean some of them she got

578
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:53,800
correct.
Probably, but I mean other other

579
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,100
ones you gotta like, how do you
know you have a problem with

580
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,300
problem?
With there's a monastery there

581
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:01,300
in st.
Catharines at the bottom.

582
00:37:01,300 --> 00:37:08,000
And so the problem with that
traditional site is twofold one

583
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,500
it that mountain is actually in
Egypt still But they have had

584
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:14,700
left Egypt and the New
Testament.

585
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:18,800
Paul says that Sinai is in
Arabia in median.

586
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,100
Not right.
So in Midian is where Saudi

587
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:27,800
Arabia Midian was were Saudi
Arabia is, which would also make

588
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,900
sense because that's where Moses
father-in-law with, right?

589
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:32,200
That's exactly right.
Yeah.

590
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Which would make sense, right?
Yep.

591
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,600
Yep.
Yep.

592
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:40,200
So and right.
Yeah Moses goes up Sinai the

593
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,500
first time At least the first
significant time when he's

594
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:47,800
tending Jethro's, people?
Or maybe they were issued by.

595
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,600
Then I remember Yeah, that was a
medium.

596
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,100
So so Jeb LL laws is the the
Arabic name for this?

597
00:37:55,300 --> 00:38:00,200
This mountain there, the other
problem, besides the location

598
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,200
that is consistent with what the
scriptures say is.

599
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:10,000
There's also archaeological
problems at the traditional site

600
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,000
in Egypt.
There's basically zero

601
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,000
archaeological evidence that
Israelites were ever there.

602
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,100
But at the job L AA site.
There's a host of both

603
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:29,100
archaeological and geological
evidence to like, for example,

604
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:35,700
the the top of this mountain is
is blackened, like it was on

605
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:39,400
fire or something.
There's a big Split Rock up at

606
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:46,500
the top or near the top.
There are ancient Hebrew

607
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:49,400
inscriptions, paleo-hebrew,
paleo Hebrew inscription.

608
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,800
He's all over the place.
There's a lot of footprints

609
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,900
actually chiseled on the Rocks
which is interesting because one

610
00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:03,200
of the promises God tells them,
he says every place where your

611
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,100
feet trod will be the land I
give you.

612
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:11,100
And so there's all these huh
Footprints, chiseled into the

613
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:14,900
Rock along with the Hebrew
inscription, paleo Hebrew

614
00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:20,500
inscription like basically
claiming Ryan as theirs.

615
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,800
Okay, there's also there's a
bunch of.

616
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,900
There's twelve pillars at the
base and I've been set up,

617
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:30,300
there's even one there's altars
and things have been found.

618
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,000
There's even one altar that's
kind of lifted up, its kind of

619
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,700
natural altar.
But there's a bunch of like

620
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,000
inscriptions in your petroglyphs
of cows, being worshipped and

621
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,800
stuff it with someone going,
don't do this as this one

622
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,300
horrible for.
Well, yeah, well I think that, I

623
00:39:48,308 --> 00:39:51,200
think they may have been I think
they would those might have been

624
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,000
part of the ceremony.
Yeah that was when they were

625
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,600
getting ready to worship the
golden calf.

626
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,700
I mean anyway.
Yeah.

627
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,800
So this this job L laws I highly
recommend people looking up.

628
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:05,000
It's very interesting.
There's a there's an LDS guy.

629
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,500
I think his name is Roy hotter.
Okay.

630
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:13,500
He actually went and found some
interesting like Book of Mormon

631
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:17,100
archaeological sites that are to
one of them.

632
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:19,200
Is there's a Wadi that's nearby
there.

633
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:22,300
Right, it's interesting getting
off into Book of Mormon things

634
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:25,300
there's but I forget.
Well I'm I'm scatterbrained

635
00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:28,800
right now, so I apologize.
But there are a lot of official

636
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,700
sources that say there are no
rivers in Saudi Arabia.

637
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:36,200
No, no, Perpetual Rivers.
No perennial Rivers.

638
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,700
But, you know, the eye and his
family, they leave Jerusalem.

639
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:43,800
And they start heading down by
the Red Sea, and they're not,

640
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,000
they haven't been going too far
and they come to this, there's a

641
00:40:47,008 --> 00:40:54,100
valley right with the, the river
and Valium Lemuel, right?

642
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:56,700
And there's a river flowing
through it, that's flowing

643
00:40:56,700 --> 00:41:00,200
continuously, right?
I says, and anyway, there's a

644
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,300
lot of, but a lot of I said,
official sources, say that there

645
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:07,400
are no rivers in Saudi Arabia,
but they're actually, It is and

646
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:14,300
it's up there near the Red Sea
and as far as I know, Roy Potter

647
00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:17,600
was the one that found it but
it's actually pretty close to

648
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,800
where job Ela laws is like Lehi
and his family would have been

649
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,400
they were journeying near the
borders of the Red Sea.

650
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,900
They would have come to the
place where the Israelites

651
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:35,300
crossed and then Mount Sinai is
right near there and and I

652
00:41:35,308 --> 00:41:38,400
believe some at least some of Of
the spiritual experiences that.

653
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:46,100
And if I had you being caught up
into a high mountain, he says

654
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:49,000
when he's has this vision and
stuff, like, I think that was

655
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,200
probably at the mountain of the
Lord at that.

656
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:57,000
Sign up, or at least, or at
least that was involved in some

657
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,200
way their proximity to that.
That Holy place was a factor.

658
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,300
So, yeah, you know, I find it
interesting and I've said this

659
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:08,400
before but again, that's just
Bears it out.

660
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:14,400
Mormons and in Jewish folks have
a lot in common, right?

661
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:16,900
We more than we both realize, I
think.

662
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:20,800
Yeah.
I mean, you look at, you know,

663
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:27,000
things that are done let's say
during Passover meals and, you

664
00:42:27,008 --> 00:42:29,900
know, even the Seder, there's a
lot of things, harkening back

665
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,700
and you look at what we do with
our youth, right?

666
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:36,300
We take them on track or we.
We acquaintance with our history

667
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,800
right down to this, right?
I mean, if you What heart?

668
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,600
Landers and and those folks
espousing a Mesoamerican model

669
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,600
for the Book of Mormon they have
this argument about where it

670
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,400
took place and it sounds like
within Judaism.

671
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,800
There's this argument about
where was Moses.

672
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,800
Where was cyanide?
I just find it interesting that,

673
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,800
that we share so many similar
characteristics.

674
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Yeah.
When it when it comes to that,

675
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,400
it's fascinating and interesting
as you just look at it.

676
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:10,300
Yeah, I think we have Humans in
general.

677
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Yeah it a lot more in common
with each other than we would

678
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,800
care to examine something.
Yeah yeah I agree.

679
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:23,200
So anyway so back to back to the
story of Shavuot, I guess to

680
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:30,300
some more interesting things.
So They received the Covenant

681
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:37,500
and Moses, you know, sprinkles
Blood on the on the people, you

682
00:43:37,508 --> 00:43:41,100
know, to seal the deal and then
he actually goes up into the

683
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:48,700
mountain with I'll read it here.
This is an exodus chapter 24 and

684
00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:54,200
then went up Moses and Aaron
nadab and a by who and 70 of the

685
00:43:54,200 --> 00:44:00,100
Elders of Israel and they saw
the god of Israel and there was

686
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:04,800
under his feet as it were a
paved work of sapphire stone and

687
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,700
as it were the body of Heaven in
its clearance.

688
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:14,700
So Moses and the and Aaron nadab
and by who and the 70 they go up

689
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:18,000
they see God they see God's
Throne Room basically and it

690
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:26,000
goes on.
It says They saw God says in

691
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,400
verse 11, they saw God and did
eat and drink.

692
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,500
So they basically had a feat,
the Feast of Shavuot, you know,

693
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:37,500
up there with God, it's pretty
amazing.

694
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:45,000
And, and then, and then Moses
comes down with the stones.

695
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,400
And and it says that the stones
were provided, the stones were

696
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,200
provided and carved by the
Finger of God.

697
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,800
And the only stone that is
mentioned in the chapter is the

698
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:03,700
sapphire stone that was in God's
throne room and so there's some

699
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,200
there's some strong
circumstantial evidence there

700
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,900
and there is Traditions Jewish
Traditions that say that the

701
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:15,200
first set of tablets were
written on Sapphire gem or some

702
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:20,300
some of the, some of the
translations, say, maybe lapiz

703
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:22,900
lazuli.
But anyway, there's A blue

704
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:24,800
stone.
I like the sapphire imagery.

705
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:27,900
It says clear right here, like
heaven.

706
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:36,200
Okay.
And so they were blue and And a

707
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,600
lot of times when you, when you
hear about the color blue in the

708
00:45:39,607 --> 00:45:43,200
scriptures, then you should be
thinking about this.

709
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,900
These first set of tablets that
had the Commandments on a blue,

710
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:51,600
is actually a symbol of of
Heaven for one and also of The

711
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,600
Commandments which is where
Heaven comes from the.

712
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:57,800
And it's from the Throne of God,
finding interesting.

713
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,600
It blue still approve pretty
prominent color on the Israeli

714
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,300
flag to yes.
Yeah and the The king of Gotham,

715
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,000
right?
Yeah, thanks.

716
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,300
Yep.
I don't think that's.

717
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:10,700
I think, that's not mean.
That's on purpose.

718
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:13,000
Yeah, that's harking.
Back to this.

719
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,900
Let me ask you this.
You talked about in the script,

720
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:20,700
you read there in the
scriptures, that it wasn't just

721
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:22,300
Moses.
It went up to the mountain to

722
00:46:22,300 --> 00:46:25,600
see the Lord face to face.
That's right. 70 elders went

723
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,700
with them too.
Yeah.

724
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:31,100
Is that may be where the office
of 70 comes from.

725
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:34,500
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, this is the, I don't

726
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:37,500
think there's anything not like
Solomon says, is it nothing new

727
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:42,600
Under the Sun, right?
Yeah, I think, I mean, the 12,

728
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:49,900
all of the, all of the tribes
had a prince, right?

729
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,200
We all right.
A chief, a chief.

730
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:55,100
And those are.
Those are those are the 12

731
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:57,500
apostles, right?
Those are the 12.

732
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,800
Sons was the 12 heads of the of
the 12 tribes and the end.

733
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,600
And then we have the 70 right
here.

734
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,400
We have we have a first
presidency, right?

735
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,700
We have we actually have right?
We have Moses.

736
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:13,300
And we have Aaron nadab and by
whose we have these three and

737
00:47:13,300 --> 00:47:21,700
then the 70 and These numbers.
Come up quite frequently and it

738
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:24,100
is true that in the Old
Testament.

739
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:28,000
There's it's not as clear as you
know, it's not laid out as clear

740
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,200
as that is inducting coming,
right?

741
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,400
Okay.
And in the New Testament it's

742
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,600
not really quite as clear
either.

743
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,500
But it's the patterns are
definitely there and repeating,

744
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,100
right?
I just found that interesting.

745
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:46,300
It's just something popped
popped in as you were reading

746
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:48,600
it.
I was like yeah it's just like

747
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,300
maybe that's where the office
comes from.

748
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:55,200
The actual priesthood Office of
the yeah and I think and 70 I

749
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,800
think so the seven-year supposed
to be traveling right

750
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,700
missionaries.
Yep correct and in Hebrew

751
00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:08,700
numerology.
T is a is a symbolic

752
00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:12,200
representation of the nations of
Europe, okay?

753
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:16,200
And this actually ties in with
shovel up to I'm going to

754
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,300
mention it right here, right
now.

755
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:25,200
When Israel left Egypt, it was
not only pure-blooded Israelites

756
00:48:25,700 --> 00:48:31,400
but says specifically that there
was a mixed multitude of people

757
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:35,600
that left with the Israelites.
And Jewish tradition says that

758
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,200
they were, there was people
representing all the seventy

759
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,500
Nations, the 70 other nations
besides Israel, that all

760
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:48,900
attached themselves to Israel.
Of course, they were all in

761
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:50,300
Egypt.
Why were the why we're all the

762
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:52,700
nations and represented in
Egypt?

763
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,100
Well, a couple reasons.
One Egypt was like was the world

764
00:48:57,100 --> 00:49:04,400
superpower at the right to a
couple Generations earlier got

765
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,100
massive famine, it was famine
and everyone had gone to Egypt

766
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:10,500
for food and then people just
probably settled there, just

767
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:14,400
like the Israelites to and I
started little and you know,

768
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:21,800
whatever Babylonian colonies in
Macedonian colonies, And places

769
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,500
from all over the known world at
least.

770
00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:30,300
So do we have any record of what
happened to those ones who

771
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:35,500
weren't Jewish by birth?
Right the those mixed multitudes

772
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,500
did they just show up and then
where they just brought in?

773
00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:43,600
Yeah, I mean you know what
interesting this is this is

774
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:48,500
something that's Actually this
is kind of misunderstood I will

775
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:53,600
say is a lot of people think
that the idea of like being

776
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,600
adopted into Israel.
Like that's a new testament

777
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,900
thing.
But it's from the very beginning

778
00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:01,600
from the Passover.
Yeah.

779
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:07,700
And and The Exodus God basically
says, If you are a foreigner and

780
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:12,300
you want to come and keep my law
and do the things that

781
00:50:12,308 --> 00:50:16,200
Israelites do, then you will be
part of, you'll be considered a

782
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,600
part of us.
Like you'll have your

783
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,400
inheritance will be with us from
the beginning.

784
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,100
Like that's adoption and
grafting in that idea is not a

785
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:30,000
new testing, magnet, a Old
Testament, you know, and that

786
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,400
actually has some pretty
significant tie ends with the

787
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,400
restored gospel.
We know that there was As law of

788
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,400
adoption in the early days of
the LDS church, right?

789
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,200
This idea because you had people
who were think about this,

790
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,800
right?
You're in Sweden.

791
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:49,500
You're in England and you are,
you've received a testimony of

792
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:53,200
the fullness of the gospel.
Maybe it's just you right?

793
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,500
Or maybe it's you and your small
family there and you're coming

794
00:50:56,500 --> 00:50:58,000
over Harrison's.
Yeah.

795
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,700
No to inherit with and you're
coming over and you got no one

796
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:03,800
to look after you and I don't
know this.

797
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,900
This idea of adoption will die.
I'm fascinated with it.

798
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:11,500
As of late, I find it to be very
fascinating and having this

799
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:17,000
brought up in this discussion.
I think probably shows some some

800
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,700
connections back to that.
Absolutely.

801
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:20,800
Oh yeah, there's definitely.
That goes at least.

802
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,600
Yeah.
And yeah, which is again what we

803
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:30,500
would expect that.
So so those first tablets They

804
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:35,300
were, they were Blue Stone from
the throne like they were from

805
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:40,100
Heaven and the whole, the whole
point of the whole point of the

806
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:49,900
law was always too.
To have to have it impressed

807
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:53,600
Upon Our Hearts, right?
We want to have.

808
00:51:54,300 --> 00:52:00,800
And I mean there's there's
several verses that we have some

809
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,000
in both the New Testament and
the Old Testament.

810
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:06,500
Second Corinthians and Hebrews.
Jeremiah and Ezekiel, I talk

811
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:11,200
about the fleshy tablets of our
heart and that's always what

812
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:16,500
God's been going after and not
that, not that one. we have, you

813
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:19,600
know, the God's law in our
heart, that the stones can go

814
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:24,400
away, you know, that the that
physical law can go away but

815
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:31,900
that that are that our flesh
actually conforms to Two stones,

816
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,700
right?
The stones are like a scam and

817
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:37,900
our flesh conforms to it.
That's the that's the idea.

818
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,100
You know, I get this ties into a
little quote, we're talking

819
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:48,700
about earlier but sometimes
Christians kind of bristle at

820
00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:52,300
the idea of the law that they
don't write, they just want to

821
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:58,300
love God, you know, and be saved
and whatever and God's.

822
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:02,500
You God likes that, I'm sure in
some sense but God wants more

823
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:05,600
than that.
God wants a people, God wants a

824
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,900
nation and you can't, you can't
run a nation.

825
00:53:11,700 --> 00:53:16,900
With everyone, just doing it.
Say that you love Jesus right

826
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:20,100
without without a code of laws,
you have to have laws in order

827
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:22,400
to be free.
That's the slower we were

828
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,100
talking about.
Yeah.

829
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:24,800
Yeah.
Because it can't just be

830
00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:27,600
everyone do whatever they want
and love God like that.

831
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:34,300
That's that's hell well in this
Harkens back you know this this

832
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,100
that's golden calf stuff.
Yeah actually when sorry me say

833
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:39,000
one more thing though.
Yeah.

834
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:40,600
When they worship the golden
calf.

835
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,900
And all that and all the
debauchery that went along with

836
00:53:44,900 --> 00:53:47,000
that.
You know what, you know what,

837
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,000
Aaron said to them.
He said here is here, is your

838
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:58,300
god that took you out of Egypt.
Let's have a feast to Yaya like,

839
00:53:58,300 --> 00:54:02,700
let's have a feast to the Lord
and so that's what they were

840
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:06,300
worshiping Jehovah, you know.
But they were, they were doing

841
00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:09,300
it according to their own
desires and that's what you get

842
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:15,300
when people just Love Jesus.
Without any guidelines is you

843
00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:19,300
get a bomb a nation yet
corruption and I don't think

844
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:23,600
there's any real Freedom there
and and I'll again take this

845
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:29,600
back to to America story a
little bit when, when we're

846
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,300
first to Country, after we
managed to be written, we're

847
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,600
operating under the Articles of
Confederation, right?

848
00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:41,600
The founders understood that
they had to move the needle, so

849
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,800
to speak on freedom, just enough
so that you could have order and

850
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,900
the maximum amount of freedom.
That's why we're not really a

851
00:54:50,908 --> 00:54:56,700
democracy where Republic to slow
down this idea of everyone just

852
00:54:56,700 --> 00:55:01,100
doing their own thing.
No matter what because if you

853
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:04,600
just do your own thing without
any sort of guide lines, any

854
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:10,800
sort of structure, what you get
is mobocracy, right?

855
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:13,500
And how free are you?
When somebody comes to steal

856
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:15,900
your crap, you're not free at
all.

857
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,500
And so this idea of freedom
through Some sort of discipline.

858
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:25,600
I think, deserves some attention
and some weight more so than

859
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,500
what we like to admit.
Yeah, amen.

860
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:36,100
So we go back to the blue, the
blue stones and the color blues.

861
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:38,000
It's interesting.
Of course we know that those

862
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,000
those blue stones were lost,
right, Moses came down, and

863
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,600
broke them all.
We found the people defiling

864
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,400
themselves with the calf, but a
couple of other interesting

865
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,800
things.
The first part, the first part

866
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,300
of the Book of Mormon, which we
lost also.

867
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,600
Right was actually.
It was written on blue paper

868
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:05,900
really and then it was gone.
Yeah, so I mean I don't know I

869
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:08,000
just find that to be an
interesting coincidence.

870
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,300
Absolutely, I didn't realize
that.

871
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:17,900
Yeah.
So I did want to mention.

872
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,200
One other thing is the one of
the things that they're supposed

873
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,500
to do for the law, is there
supposed to tie a blue thread on

874
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:33,400
there on the four corners?
And then it comes and and the

875
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,400
blue thread was there supposed
to be able to look at that blue

876
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,300
thread and says, tend to
remember the Commandments and

877
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:42,100
why is the blue thread remaining
of The Commandments?

878
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:45,800
Because those first Stones
anyway were we're blue, at

879
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,900
least, that's part of it.
So it's kind of like the

880
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:51,300
original CTR name if you would.
Okay?

881
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,400
Okay.
Look at it and that reminds you

882
00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:55,200
do.
What's do what's right?

883
00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:00,900
Is right.
So and this is This is what

884
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:07,000
Jesus had, Jesus was wearing
these these Tableau tassels, the

885
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:13,200
clumsy but zero.
And this is what that, that

886
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,400
woman, who had that issue of
blood.

887
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,300
Right.
When she touched the Hem of His

888
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,400
Garment is actually, the castle
is the tassel.

889
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,000
She touched the tassel.
And she knew she knew actually

890
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:31,300
that that she knew that if Jesus
was the Messiah and I'm sure she

891
00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:35,000
had a spiritual witness of that
before she attempted something.

892
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,100
So Brazen, she knew that it was
prophesied.

893
00:57:40,300 --> 00:57:44,500
That he would have healing in
his castles if it is easy.

894
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:48,600
Now in the English, the prophecy
in Malachi says, he will have

895
00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:50,300
healing in his wings.
Yeah.

896
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:53,900
But that's those, are the
fringes or the tassels of

897
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,500
scarlet.
And so, she knew that that was

898
00:57:57,500 --> 00:58:00,100
prophesied, and she exercised
faith in that.

899
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:04,000
That was the first public heal
that happened, right?

900
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,200
And then that's she's famous for
that, but if you read in the

901
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,100
following chapters, it says that
people from all around.

902
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:17,100
Came to touch his Z and we're
and everyone who did was healed

903
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,300
and, you know, and this just
there's so much symbolism in

904
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:31,300
that 21 is one is Jesus and his
power, but another is, but it

905
00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:34,100
wasn't, it wasn't just Jesus.
It was these who was the blue

906
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:40,100
tassels, which are a reminder of
the law, and the law is the law.

907
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,900
Is is healing?
Yeah for sick.

908
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,900
People and sick Nations.
Yeah right.

909
00:58:49,300 --> 00:58:54,200
It's fascinating because we can
see what happens when we don't

910
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:56,700
follow the law, right?
I mean, if we look at the

911
00:58:56,700 --> 00:59:01,300
disaster that's Chicago right
now with just the beatings and

912
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,000
the lawlessness and certain
companies pulling out of San

913
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:10,300
Francisco, all together.
We need some, we need to harken

914
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:13,900
back to the law, right?
Both both our national law,

915
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,100
which largely is founded upon
the Ten Commandments,

916
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:19,500
absolutely.
In judaeo-christian Tradition,

917
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:23,900
as well as, you know, getting
ourselves back into scripture

918
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:28,200
and knowing that long we're
because we are sick Society at

919
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,000
the moment and you're right that
we do need some healing through

920
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,600
and you touch the yeah, we need
to touch those tassels.

921
00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:37,100
Yeah.
In preparation for this.

922
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:43,100
I actually came across a, a talk
from Neil Maxwell in October,

923
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:46,800
1974 General Conference.
I thought it was just so

924
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:49,400
fitting.
He actually was the talk.

925
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:56,700
He was he was speaking to people
who are kind of like in the

926
00:59:56,700 --> 01:00:02,800
church but are just sitting on
the sidelines and not really

927
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,000
getting in there.
Participating from of what we've

928
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,000
been talking about, And it's the
talk is kind of humorous because

929
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,200
he's just telling people how to
he's giving them advice for how

930
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,700
to stay on the sidelines, right?
If you want to stay on the

931
01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:21,500
sidelines then like don't do
these things but I'm going to

932
01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:23,800
tell him also.
He gives this list of things not

933
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,700
to do so that you can stay
comfortably on the sidelines

934
01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:32,600
doing nothing and just let
kingdom of God pass you by so to

935
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,400
speak.
So one of the things he says he

936
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,800
says if you want to stay There
he says, do not let yourself

937
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:42,200
reflect too much on the social
political and economic

938
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,600
indicators, that suggest the
Gathering storm is the 1974.

939
01:00:47,300 --> 01:00:50,500
Lest you realize that there is
an Inseparable connection

940
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:53,700
between keeping the Commandments
and the well-being of society.

941
01:00:55,100 --> 01:01:00,500
Don't think about that too much.
You might take you into the

942
01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:04,100
roads that you're uncomfortable.
Traveling.

943
01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:06,300
Yeah.
So area.

944
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:07,100
Huh?
That was brilliant.

945
01:01:07,700 --> 01:01:21,300
So Let's see.
So I want to talk about the

946
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:25,900
change in what happened with the
tablets, okay?

947
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:30,200
So Moses comes down and he's
carrying these tablets.

948
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,900
Actually, it's interesting, the
Jewish tradition.

949
01:01:33,900 --> 01:01:36,800
I mean, there's a stone and not
Stone Jewish tradition says that

950
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:42,300
these tablets would carry their
own weight, So so they would

951
01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:46,700
just Moses could take them down
the mountain without any effort

952
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,400
on his part screwed.
So there's interesting things to

953
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:56,800
think about there but of course
he breaks them and then then you

954
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,000
know, Jehovah says, he's going
to destroy the people and Moses

955
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:04,700
intercedes and says convinces,
you know, reasons with God.

956
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:09,000
Bargains with God says take me
instead and they God says no,

957
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,400
that's okay.
This is what this is what we're

958
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,500
going to do.
Says they're not, they're not

959
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:18,600
ready for what I had offered
them.

960
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:23,300
The one they didn't want to come
up when I invited them and to

961
01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:27,400
the immediately.
Went back to their Egyptian guys

962
01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:31,100
as soon as there's no
supervision, right?

963
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:36,100
Just was the people who weren't
ready for Freedom more than any

964
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:37,300
sort.
That's right.

965
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:40,800
So but they need it, they need
in law still.

966
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:48,900
So there's kind of two theories
about what was what was on the

967
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:53,700
first and second set of tablets
and everyone everyone agrees

968
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,700
that At the children of Israel
were cursed, right?

969
01:02:58,700 --> 01:03:01,200
They had to go.
They could not enter the

970
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:06,400
promised land immediately, which
was what God's goal for them has

971
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,500
at least one of his goals.
For them was not the only gold

972
01:03:09,500 --> 01:03:12,200
up that was the next step and
they weren't ready for.

973
01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:14,900
So they had to go through the
Wilderness for 40 years.

974
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:19,000
Until, you know, the that older
generation died off right?

975
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:24,000
But even then, I mean, we say we
like, to say, cursed and indeed

976
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,500
the scriptures, Are clear that
they were cursed, but it's it

977
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:32,900
wasn't a bad cursing.
I mean, They had all their food

978
01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:36,400
provided for them.
Like God is with them directly.

979
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,300
The pillar of fire was there
guiding them.

980
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:44,700
They were protected from their
enemies, they had water and

981
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:47,900
scripture says that even there,
like God made it so that if

982
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:51,000
shoes, and their clothes didn't
even without 40 years.

983
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:56,400
So yeah, so all in all not too
bad of a curse but but we

984
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:57,700
definitely know that they were
cursed.

985
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,200
So these are the 2.
These are the two theories.

986
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:07,300
One is the as far as what was on
the tablets.

987
01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:10,400
The first Theory or the first
hypothesis is a hypothesis.

988
01:04:10,700 --> 01:04:13,700
First, hypothesis is the
replacement hypothesis.

989
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,600
And the second one is the league
action hypothesis.

990
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:25,100
Okay, so The first hypothesis,
the the replacement hypothesis

991
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:29,000
says, basically that they were
that the law that they received

992
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,200
was the curse.
They were cursed with the lower

993
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:37,500
law and so like, so basically
that Moses came down the first

994
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:40,400
time and he was the high law
there, the higher law, the

995
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,600
Melchizedek things, and then the
people disqualified themselves.

996
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,900
And so that was removed and was
replaced.

997
01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:52,800
With the lower law, the physical
laws of carnal law, the ironic

998
01:04:53,200 --> 01:05:00,100
or levitical law and that and
that that so that that was in

999
01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:04,600
essence, the curse was receiving
that lower law.

1000
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:11,300
Now.
Okay, so that's one the second

1001
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,500
theory it be redaction Theory or
hypothesis.

1002
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:19,300
Done is use the word hypothesis.
Is that actually both things

1003
01:05:19,300 --> 01:05:22,700
were given the lower law and the
higher law will given together

1004
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:28,800
on that first set of tablets.
And then when the people proved

1005
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,600
themselves unworthy then the
higher law, the Melchizedek

1006
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:39,200
portion of things was removed.
And that but that the lower law

1007
01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:45,400
remain.
So so that the curse was not the

1008
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,800
receiving of the lower law
rather in this hypothesis, the

1009
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,400
curse Was the removal of the
higher law.

1010
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,200
So and there's a, there's a
subtle but I think important

1011
01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:02,500
distinction to be made there.
So Now, I know I'm well, aware

1012
01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:06,700
of what you know, are Catholic
and Protestant.

1013
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,400
Forefathers have taught about
this and much of their teaching

1014
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:17,100
and ideas have been absorbed by
the children of the restoration,

1015
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,400
but we want to know, you know,
what our scriptures say.

1016
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,100
And so we can kind of test
between these two competing

1017
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:28,300
hypotheses by looking at the
scriptures.

1018
01:06:28,300 --> 01:06:32,100
So I'm going to read in two
places.

1019
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:35,600
The first one is going to be,
will go to, we're going to

1020
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:42,200
Deuteronomy first.
Here, Deuteronomy chapter 10. 10

1021
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:47,400
verse 2 or so.
Okay.

1022
01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:51,000
Actually going to start at verse
1.

1023
01:06:55,700 --> 01:06:59,000
Here's the unfortunate truth
right now as fundamentalists and

1024
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,300
traditional LDS folks, we can't
expect to have accurate history

1025
01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:07,100
told by others because true
history and scholarship is

1026
01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:10,900
problematic for certain people.
And organizations, we're going

1027
01:07:10,900 --> 01:07:13,800
to have to do this work
ourselves and to do that, we

1028
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,200
will have to support each other
in this kind of work.

1029
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,800
Now, anybody who's anybody in
fundamentalist circles notes,

1030
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,800
who drew Briny, is he is,
perhaps the most prolific,

1031
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,200
Author within Mormon
fundamentalism.

1032
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:28,500
Drew's newest project is
something.

1033
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:32,200
I think all Mormons can benefit
from he is in the process of

1034
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,200
creating an annotated version of
the Doctrine and Covenants.

1035
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,500
Once you have a copy of this,
you will be able to compare

1036
01:07:38,500 --> 01:07:41,400
current sections with previous
versions.

1037
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,700
And also what early LDS leaders
had to say about that particular

1038
01:07:45,700 --> 01:07:48,600
section as fundamentalists and
traditional LDS.

1039
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,600
Folks, we are constantly trying
to get back into the minds of

1040
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,500
the early Brethren this Reject
that Drew is engaged in right

1041
01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:58,300
now is going to be the ultimate
tool to help us do that.

1042
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,000
Now because this annotated
version of the Doctrine and

1043
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,000
Covenants is such a massive
undertaking, Drew needs some

1044
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,800
help from others, Drew's plan
for getting this annotated

1045
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,200
version of the Doctrine and
Covenants out is through

1046
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,200
crowdfunding the link for that
will be out April 4th if you

1047
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,399
want more details sooner, go to
Drew's Facebook page and

1048
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:21,100
messaging from there and he'll
give you all the details further

1049
01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:24,000
on Saturday.
April 8, I'll be releasing An

1050
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,000
episode that talks about this
project in Greater detail.

1051
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:31,100
So please if you feel impressed
to do so and have the means I'd

1052
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:34,300
humbly ask that you reach out to
Drew and support this project,

1053
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:37,800
that will help Advance the
scholarship and true doctrine of

1054
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,100
the restored gospel.
Look, we live in some pretty

1055
01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:43,100
challenging times.
Instability is all around us and

1056
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:46,600
it can feel pretty overwhelming
in order to not just survive,

1057
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,000
but to thrive in this time, we
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1058
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,600
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Then maximize and engage every

1059
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,700
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1060
01:08:55,700 --> 01:08:58,800
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1061
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,000
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the tools and practices to

1062
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,000
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1063
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,600
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1064
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1065
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1066
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:20,800
So Deuteronomy 10 verse 1 at
that time, Jehovah said unto me,

1067
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,300
Hugh the two tables of stone
like unto the first.

1068
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:30,399
So Moses had to death of chisel
and cut out these two, and come

1069
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,700
up into me in the mount and make
an arc of wood.

1070
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:39,700
And I will write on the tablets,
the words that were in the first

1071
01:09:39,700 --> 01:09:44,100
tablets, which they'll break is,
and then you read the jst down

1072
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:49,000
there.
Save for the words of

1073
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:53,800
Everlasting, Covenant of the
Holy priesthood and thou shalt

1074
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,100
put them in the oven.
So let me just read that one

1075
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:01,600
more time.
All together, get tables cable.

1076
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,200
Stone verse 1, verse 2, I will
write on the tables.

1077
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,900
The words that were in the first
tables which style brake assist.

1078
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,700
Save for the words of
Everlasting, Covenant of the

1079
01:10:12,700 --> 01:10:16,100
Holy priesthood and thou shalt
put them in me on.

1080
01:10:16,900 --> 01:10:20,200
So does that sound like a
replacement or a redaction a

1081
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:25,300
redaction cab saying he's
saying, you know, you you they

1082
01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:29,100
could have had all this and I'll
say here, that sounds a lot like

1083
01:10:30,900 --> 01:10:33,500
Almost are degrees of Glory,
right?

1084
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:35,800
That that's pretty unique, to
Mormonism.

1085
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:42,300
In terms of don't have it right?
Because hell isn't necessarily a

1086
01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:46,400
fit, you know, a place.
The hell is this idea of so

1087
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,100
much?
We could have more could have

1088
01:10:48,108 --> 01:10:49,300
had more.
That's exactly.

1089
01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:53,300
And and so I would say it's
still a blessing to go.

1090
01:10:53,300 --> 01:10:57,600
You know, if you read the things
Joseph taught we he said if sto

1091
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,000
kingdom is a kingdom of Glory.
Yeah.

1092
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,700
If we See, the telestial
kingdom, you know?

1093
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:07,300
I've heard people say, you'd
want to off yourself just to get

1094
01:11:07,300 --> 01:11:13,000
there now, right?
And so, It-it's redaction seems

1095
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:18,300
to be more in line with how God
deals with his children, more

1096
01:11:18,300 --> 01:11:22,400
than a replacement.
The other thing I would tend to

1097
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,600
say is that how could they be
ready for Melchizedek things if

1098
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,400
they hadn't received the ironic
things first?

1099
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,800
Yeah, yeah.
It's that I think that's

1100
01:11:32,900 --> 01:11:37,000
absolutely true.
Especially since some the higher

1101
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,400
law, the Melchizedek things as
far as I'm turned.

1102
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:46,800
Those are, those are all
spiritual extensions of the

1103
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:53,600
physical things.
And so, how can you have this

1104
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:57,400
this spiritual extension of a
non-existent physical thing,

1105
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,400
right?
It's like it's like having a

1106
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,500
house with no Foundation, right?
Like, right over.

1107
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:07,900
Yeah, I mean, we had a vision
about that, it's no good.

1108
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:14,500
So, you know, so just some
examples of that kind of

1109
01:12:14,500 --> 01:12:17,300
concept.
So the idea of being immersed in

1110
01:12:17,300 --> 01:12:22,800
water, You're in into the
Mikvah, you've heard that term

1111
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:29,000
from people in the Mikvah that
is that is essentially the

1112
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:34,700
physical part of baptism, right?
But then, but then baptisms is

1113
01:12:34,700 --> 01:12:37,100
kind of the higher application,
right?

1114
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:40,400
It's a spiritual, it's a
spiritual understanding of this

1115
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:44,500
physical thing for the most
part.

1116
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,200
Not always, I'll save it for the
most part of your thinking. the

1117
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,900
majority of the times when
that's mentioned in the Old

1118
01:12:50,900 --> 01:12:56,300
Testament, it's talking about
It's talking about claim like

1119
01:12:56,300 --> 01:12:58,900
physical cleanliness or some
aspect of that K.

1120
01:12:59,300 --> 01:13:02,400
So another one is marriage,
right?

1121
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,200
Marriages in marriages in the
Old Testament even plural.

1122
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:06,500
Marriage is impossible.
Yep.

1123
01:13:06,900 --> 01:13:12,900
But but not, but stealing is not
for its, you know, there's,

1124
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,900
there's hints at it, in some
places, but, but ceiling is, is

1125
01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:22,700
the milk is at extension of
marriage, but marriage is, is a

1126
01:13:22,708 --> 01:13:26,400
principle of Of the Torah and
you can't really have.

1127
01:13:28,500 --> 01:13:32,300
It doesn't really make sense to
have ceilings without me, right?

1128
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:34,400
You gotta have a reactive a
relationship to seal.

1129
01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:42,900
You know, the Taurus full of
taking care of the widows and

1130
01:13:42,900 --> 01:13:47,100
the orphans and the poor and and
all of that and then the higher

1131
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:49,600
application that is is
consecration.

1132
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:54,100
But there's this, there's this
C2, this kernel that's in the

1133
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:56,700
lower law that just has this
higher application.

1134
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,600
Okay, circumcision?
Okay, there's a physical

1135
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,600
circumcision, but then there's
this circumcision of the heart,

1136
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,600
right?
That God, what God wants but But

1137
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,700
if you don't understand the
physical symbol and what that's

1138
01:14:09,700 --> 01:14:13,000
about, then the higher
application doesn't make as much

1139
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,800
sense, right?
And there's many other things

1140
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,600
that we could, we could mention
there.

1141
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,600
So yeah.
So I think it doesn't make sense

1142
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:27,300
to have To have the higher
without the lower, right?

1143
01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:29,100
No.
Because I think it's even

1144
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:31,800
referred to as the Preparatory
gospel, right?

1145
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,300
Yeah, right.
Yeah.

1146
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,400
And so, how can it would be like
walking into a physics exam when

1147
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,900
you have even studied out?
Yeah, I've actually heard people

1148
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:48,800
make funny analogies before like
the lower laws, you know, like

1149
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:53,700
it's like high school but But,
you know, the higher laws like

1150
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:59,600
is like college or something and
it's like the, the Israelites

1151
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,800
they did, all the lower law and
now Jesus prepares us for the

1152
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,500
higher laws.
Now, we're living higher lines

1153
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:11,200
like Yeah, but just because your
ancestor did High School doesn't

1154
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:16,300
qualify you for college, right?
You know, you your ancestor

1155
01:15:16,300 --> 01:15:19,900
could have done just High School
and that's fine.

1156
01:15:20,700 --> 01:15:22,900
But if you want to do college
you're going to do high school

1157
01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:24,700
too, right?
Right.

1158
01:15:24,700 --> 01:15:25,200
Yeah.
Yeah.

1159
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,700
We don't need out of you both.
Yeah, I don't get to go in and

1160
01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:31,800
clean my, my relatives
bachelor's and around and move

1161
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,900
on from that and move on to
graduate school.

1162
01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:35,900
Right?
So okay, I'm going to read

1163
01:15:35,900 --> 01:15:40,700
another.
Another verse this is in Exodus,

1164
01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:45,900
34 starting in verse 1, this is
in the GST again.

1165
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:52,800
So And the Lord said unto Moses
Hugh thee to other tables of

1166
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,600
stone like unto the first and I
will write upon them.

1167
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,500
Also, the words of the law
according, as they were written

1168
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:05,900
at the first on the tables,
which thou break is, but it

1169
01:16:05,900 --> 01:16:08,100
shall not be according to the
first four.

1170
01:16:08,100 --> 01:16:13,100
I will take away the priesthood
out of their midst and therefore

1171
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:16,600
my holy order and the ordinances
thereof shall not go before.

1172
01:16:16,700 --> 01:16:19,000
Or them for my presence.
Shall not go up in them.

1173
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,400
Yes, you must.
I destroy them.

1174
01:16:20,700 --> 01:16:25,400
But I will give unto them the
law as at the first but it

1175
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,100
should be after a law of carnal
commandment for.

1176
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:31,100
I have sworn in my wrath, they
shall not enter into my presence

1177
01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:33,800
into my rest in the days of
their pilgrimage.

1178
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,900
So again that sound like
replacement or redaction we got

1179
01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:41,600
redaction.
Yeah absolutely.

1180
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,300
So the law, the law is not
curse.

1181
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,000
The withholding of the
Melchizedek things.

1182
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:52,500
That was the first.
The law is not a curse, the law

1183
01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:56,300
is a necessary thing and and the
law is something that we should

1184
01:16:56,300 --> 01:16:59,000
take Serious.
Even, even if we are inheritors,

1185
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,600
of milk is appreciative and all
the things that go along with

1186
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:09,500
that.
We We need to realize that that

1187
01:17:09,500 --> 01:17:13,800
on the tables of stone that
those things were in the

1188
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,800
original intention.
Those things were given

1189
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,000
together, right?
We're both part of the blessing

1190
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:24,500
that God have for Israel.
So anyway, okay.

1191
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:35,700
So they're so, so one one thing
is remembering Remembering what

1192
01:17:35,700 --> 01:17:38,600
happened at Sinai.
Another interesting you know I

1193
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,700
mentioned it's like this day of
cabinetmaking.

1194
01:17:41,300 --> 01:17:45,000
So another interesting thing
again and I think it's partly

1195
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:50,100
because because Shavuot is the
date of Shavuot is kind of

1196
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:52,700
hidden, right?
In Leviticus 23.

1197
01:17:52,700 --> 01:17:55,900
When he gives the dates of the
month of the month, for all the

1198
01:17:55,900 --> 01:17:58,300
feasts for Shabu.
Oh, it doesn't get it.

1199
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:05,000
So, when they come to Mount
Sinai and exodus, R19, it's like

1200
01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:07,000
zombie.
It's a to be there there at the

1201
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,200
beginning of the third month,
but it doesn't say I acting, and

1202
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,400
you read about Noah, and the Ark
of the heart rests, and the

1203
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:18,900
waters dry up, and it gives you
some dates there of this day on

1204
01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:23,400
this month, the ark rested on
the waters receded and then the

1205
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:30,900
land was dry.
And by the time, see if I have

1206
01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:35,700
it.
By the time.

1207
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,000
Oh yeah.
Here we go.

1208
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,100
By the time, they go out.
So by the time that the Earth is

1209
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:46,200
dried, it's the 27th day of the
second month, right?

1210
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,900
We're almost there to the
beginning of the third month and

1211
01:18:48,900 --> 01:18:53,300
then your Genesis chapter, 8
says they go out of the Ark you

1212
01:18:53,308 --> 01:18:55,000
know.
And then of course they're going

1213
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,400
to need to get things set up,
right?

1214
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,000
They're going to build shelter,
they need to build pens for the

1215
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:05,600
animals and stuff.
Noah Builds an altar and then

1216
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,100
and then makes a man, God makes
a covenant.

1217
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,400
And by the time this happens
it's suspiciously close to

1218
01:19:12,700 --> 01:19:16,300
Shavuot.
So, when God now in the in the

1219
01:19:16,308 --> 01:19:22,200
book of jubilees, which is not
in our Cannon, it is in the

1220
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:24,500
ethiopic camera.
If you heard of that we have

1221
01:19:24,500 --> 01:19:26,600
ghetto but we would consider an
apocryphal work I suppose.

1222
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,400
But in the book of jubilees it
actually explicitly says that it

1223
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,000
was on Shavuot.
God made the Covenant with.

1224
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:39,900
With Noah and in restoration
scriptures we know that the

1225
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:42,700
Covenant with Noah was these are
not actually the first time that

1226
01:19:42,700 --> 01:19:45,900
God gave that Covenant with the
rainbow the first time was with

1227
01:19:46,300 --> 01:19:49,100
being a right.
I have every reason to believe

1228
01:19:49,100 --> 01:19:51,600
that the Covenant that God made
with Enoch was also made on

1229
01:19:52,300 --> 01:19:55,300
punch oo2, is because it's God's
covenant day.

1230
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,300
So there's a lot of a lot of
things there.

1231
01:20:01,900 --> 01:20:05,800
Another another interesting one
in the, in the New Testament,

1232
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,500
before we get to the obvious one
is the day of Pentecost, right?

1233
01:20:09,500 --> 01:20:17,200
Was explicitly, shovel do, but
before that Jesus, Jesus gets

1234
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,900
Jesus gives The Sermon on the
Mount and I believe that was a

1235
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:26,400
shovel.
Setting we're actually uncertain

1236
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,400
about the mountain, but that was
on this trip, she doesn't say

1237
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,900
it.
And we're also uncertain about

1238
01:20:32,900 --> 01:20:37,200
the timing, but if you look at
the timing, your Jesus is

1239
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:42,100
baptized, and this is, I
believe, from what we things,

1240
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:44,800
I'm John, I believe it's right
around Passover that he's

1241
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,900
baptized, which kind of fits
into with what Israel did Israel

1242
01:20:48,900 --> 01:20:51,500
when they came out of Egypt.
They were baptized in the Red

1243
01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:53,800
Sea, right?
Right on the Seventh day of

1244
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:59,000
unleavened bread.
That was That was round pass

1245
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,400
over time.
So Jesus baptized around

1246
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:05,200
Passover and then he goes out
into the travels out into the

1247
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,500
Wilderness, which I believe is
actually here Sinai.

1248
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,200
Present, characters talk about
the Wilderness.

1249
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,900
They talking about the area
where the children of Israel

1250
01:21:13,900 --> 01:21:16,800
want their heart beating back.
They're not talking about any

1251
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:22,600
old place, the Wilderness is the
area around Simon, okay?

1252
01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:25,900
Which is also where Liang is
family go.

1253
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:30,600
Owing to the Wilderness, right?
So anyway, he goes there for 40

1254
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:35,200
days.
Okay, so and then he comes back

1255
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,900
and then he comes, then he's
tempted, you know, for a day or

1256
01:21:37,900 --> 01:21:41,500
whatever and then he and then he
walks back and he chooses

1257
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:45,000
disciples and stuff.
And by the time, all these

1258
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,900
things happen, we're like about
50 days, mmm?

1259
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,500
And so, and then he goes up on a
mountain.

1260
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,900
Wow, gives this sermon to
multitudes of people.

1261
01:21:56,900 --> 01:21:58,400
Why are there multitudes of
people there?

1262
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,200
I mean, Jesus is not famous yet.
He becomes famous pretty against

1263
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,000
some pretty quickly there, but
there's multitudes of people

1264
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,900
there, like, for his first
sermon where I and why they're

1265
01:22:07,900 --> 01:22:11,700
multitudes there because it's
shallow and this is a time, one

1266
01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:14,400
of the three times in the year,
when there's supposed to be a

1267
01:22:14,407 --> 01:22:18,300
pilgrimage, right everybody?
Everyone gathers back to

1268
01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:22,900
Jerusalem to the temple.
To bring their offerings to hear

1269
01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:25,600
the word preached and all those
things.

1270
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,700
So Jesus gives this sermon and
he basically gives a sermon on

1271
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,900
the Commandments, right?
Yeah, started on that is is

1272
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:36,600
start on the commandant's and
there's nothing, there's

1273
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:44,600
actually nothing in that sermon
that is It is really new, a lot

1274
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,700
of times people think that Jesus
was talking about new stuff, but

1275
01:22:48,700 --> 01:22:53,500
in reality he was just reminding
everyone about the purpose for

1276
01:22:53,500 --> 01:22:54,900
the reason.
The law was given enough.

1277
01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:59,500
He says he says in The Sermon on
the Mount.

1278
01:22:59,500 --> 01:23:01,500
He says, you know, you're
supposed to love your enemies.

1279
01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:03,600
People are like, oh, that's like
a new testament thing.

1280
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:06,800
That's that's an old that's an
Old Testament thing.

1281
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:12,600
You know, I'm going to read an
example of Love your love your

1282
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:17,200
enemies, Exodus 23.
So this is like this is at

1283
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:23,200
Sinai.
Okay, Exodus 23 verse 4 to 5 if

1284
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,900
thou meet thine enemies ox or
his ass going astray, Thou shalt

1285
01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:29,900
surely bring it back to him
again.

1286
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,300
If thou see the ass of him that
hateth thee lying under his

1287
01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:36,700
burden and what is for bear to
help him.

1288
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,700
Thou shalt surely help.
I can even your enemies you're

1289
01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:45,500
supposed to do, good to them.
Like that's in that's in that

1290
01:23:45,700 --> 01:23:48,800
harsh cold harsh old Moses,
right?

1291
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:52,400
Jesus says not on The Sermon, on
the Mount.

1292
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,000
But later on he says someone
asked him one of the greatest

1293
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,800
Commandments and of course, we
all know that those who love the

1294
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,200
Lord thy God.
All right, love your neighbor as

1295
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,600
yourself, right?
And a lot of times people point

1296
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,200
to that tune, like see there's
the higher law that Jesus is

1297
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,700
talking about, but Jesus, just
quoting from the 12.

1298
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,900
Well, he's quoting from
Deuteronomy 6 and Malia 19.

1299
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,600
Yeah, and and let's let's for a
minute here.

1300
01:24:16,900 --> 01:24:19,100
Just kind of parse this out a
little bit because I think this

1301
01:24:19,100 --> 01:24:23,200
is worth talking about when
Jesus comes.

1302
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,700
And he says, don't don't think
I'm here to destroy the law.

1303
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,200
I'm here to fulfill the law.
Yeah.

1304
01:24:28,900 --> 01:24:33,300
I think sometimes people, or at
least I know I did struggled

1305
01:24:33,300 --> 01:24:35,200
with this idea of fulfilling the
law.

1306
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,900
Yeah.
What does that mean?

1307
01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:40,100
Does that mean he just comes to
a tone and that's all not that

1308
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:42,900
that wouldn't have been enough.
I mean that act in and of itself

1309
01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:51,400
is is revolutionary but For me,
as I've read through the gospels

1310
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:56,000
and read read to all of our
Canon of scripture.

1311
01:24:57,100 --> 01:24:59,300
I think we saying I'm here to
fulfill the law.

1312
01:24:59,300 --> 01:25:02,800
I think what he's saying is.
Okay, you got the practice.

1313
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,800
Now I'm going to tell you what
this is really all about.

1314
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,300
We all, I'm going to tell you
why it is.

1315
01:25:08,300 --> 01:25:10,700
You're doing what you're doing
this.

1316
01:25:10,700 --> 01:25:16,100
This goes to kind of what what
what Adam went through when.

1317
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,500
The angel shows up and says bro
why you offer sacrifices?

1318
01:25:20,500 --> 01:25:23,000
I don't know, I don't know.
I was told to I was told to

1319
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,900
write and then the angel says,
okay, let me fill you in.

1320
01:25:26,900 --> 01:25:29,000
Yeah.
And and sometimes I think that's

1321
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,700
actually a beautiful analogy to
what Jesus is doing.

1322
01:25:31,700 --> 01:25:33,800
Yeah.
I so I think with this idea of

1323
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:39,600
fulfilling the law, I think in
this is just the the miracle of

1324
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:43,400
Jesus, right?
He's not only talking about his

1325
01:25:43,700 --> 01:25:47,500
atonement and the resurrection
he saying, Let me show you, let

1326
01:25:47,500 --> 01:25:49,400
me tell you why you're doing
what you're doing.

1327
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,700
Well, why and he elaborates on
this?

1328
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,900
And he says, this is why you're
doing it, and this is why you

1329
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,800
should keep doing this.
Yeah.

1330
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,200
Yeah, amen.
A lot of times people will point

1331
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,800
to that fulfill.
I mean, I mean, just just the

1332
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:12,200
word itself, full fill means to
To put me like I'm pouring water

1333
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,000
in a glass, you bring it to its
fullness.

1334
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:20,700
Absolutely, a lot of people, but
when they when Christians yeah

1335
01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:24,100
read that and a lot of Mormons
to I think, because we've absorb

1336
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:25,800
right?
And yeah, fuck ideas.

1337
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:29,400
When we see fulfill, we
immediately think that means

1338
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,900
that Jesus got rid of that
stuff, right?

1339
01:26:31,900 --> 01:26:36,200
When when that's not what the
word, fulfill no means

1340
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:40,100
necessarily or hardly ever.
It means that it means to like

1341
01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:44,500
to make something full, you
know, another time just a

1342
01:26:44,500 --> 01:26:49,000
chapter, a chapter or two before
The Sermon on the Mount.

1343
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:54,100
Jesus uses the word fulfill, I'm
not in another context is goes

1344
01:26:54,100 --> 01:26:57,800
to John John's baptizing.
The Jordan to fulfill all

1345
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,700
righteousness.
Yeah and he says let's do this.

1346
01:27:01,300 --> 01:27:04,200
John says why to fulfil all
righteousness?

1347
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,500
Then we don't read that and
think Jesus is doing Jesus was

1348
01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:09,900
baptized so I don't need to be
As because he did away with

1349
01:27:09,900 --> 01:27:15,200
baptism, now that's not what.
He's he's he's showing us that

1350
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,800
not even the son of God is too
good, right?

1351
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,000
To keep the Commandments that
he's going to.

1352
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:26,600
He's going to do it all and show
us not only one that it can be

1353
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,300
done and 2 + 2 y how to do it in
3?

1354
01:27:30,300 --> 01:27:34,800
Y to do it.
I think that's.

1355
01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:36,400
Yeah.
That is what Jesus means.

1356
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,900
By making the lawful Yeah, I
think so.

1357
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:46,100
And I think this also ties back
to this idea of the Covenant is

1358
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:51,600
still in force, right?
We look even as Mormon

1359
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,800
sometimes.
I think we look at this idea of

1360
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,600
restoration and think, oh, we're
just restoring the New Testament

1361
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,100
stuff.
Yeah, that's not.

1362
01:28:00,300 --> 01:28:02,500
That's not it at all, but Joseph
was about it.

1363
01:28:02,500 --> 01:28:07,800
I know Joseph was like, when you
start talking about, as Joseph

1364
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,600
did about this, dispensation of
the fullness of times, the

1365
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,300
restoration of all things, all
things.

1366
01:28:14,700 --> 01:28:20,100
Everything.
He said everything that has been

1367
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:23,100
had under the authority of the
priesthood in every

1368
01:28:23,100 --> 01:28:26,800
dispensation, right?
Will be had again, everything

1369
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,700
that has ever been done and
that's that's kind of

1370
01:28:28,700 --> 01:28:31,100
uncomfortable thing to think of
partly it's uncomfortable to

1371
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:41,500
think of because I think we are
satisfied in some sense with the

1372
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:45,300
progress of the restoration has
been so This stuff has been

1373
01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:47,100
restored and we're good with
that.

1374
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:52,400
And they've been that way now
for a couple hundred years,

1375
01:28:52,700 --> 01:28:56,100
right?
There's New Revelations and

1376
01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:59,600
people get personal Revelations
and there's even been, you know,

1377
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,400
depending on what church, you go
to your, your profit has

1378
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,900
received Revelations or things
that you believe in Revelations.

1379
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:11,700
But as far as, as far as the big
picture that Joseph was talking

1380
01:29:11,700 --> 01:29:16,100
about that stuff, not done.
We are not doing animal

1381
01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:21,200
sacrifices doing.
Least we're not we're not

1382
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,700
building Zion, you know, the
city of Zion, right?

1383
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,300
We're not building the Temple
complex with 24 temples. 12,

1384
01:29:29,300 --> 01:29:31,500
aaronic temples 12 milk.
Is it temples?

1385
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,500
There's a lot left undone and
it's easy.

1386
01:29:35,500 --> 01:29:40,800
Sometimes to just think in our
in, our day-to-day lives at This

1387
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:45,200
is this is it the Restorations
kind of kind of done in the but

1388
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,900
yeah and we believe it we've
achieved a New Testament Church

1389
01:29:48,900 --> 01:29:54,500
or something right?
And and that line of thinking

1390
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,400
that that we have achieved,
right?

1391
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:58,800
We've done it.
We're good.

1392
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:03,200
We can sit back.
The The Lazy part of me, the,

1393
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,200
the sitting on the couch eating
Doritos, keeping track of my

1394
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:09,100
fantasy football team.
I love that interpretation.

1395
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:14,500
However, in good faith after
reading what I've read,

1396
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,900
especially the words of Joseph
Smith himself, you can't be

1397
01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:22,400
fulfilled with that, right?
You can't be happy with, that's

1398
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:27,100
not enough.
And no, I don't think there is

1399
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:34,900
another sect of Christendom.
That seeks salvation on a couple

1400
01:30:34,900 --> 01:30:38,100
different levels or exaltation
on a couple different levels

1401
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:43,400
more than Mormonism does.
Amen to that because in the Old

1402
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:48,700
Testament, you the covenants
that were in place were very

1403
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,100
Nationalistic.
Now, I don't say nationalistic

1404
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:56,100
in terms of like the political
Theory, I'm talking

1405
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:59,800
nationalistic in terms of where
a group of people, they are

1406
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,800
going to be governed by these
principles, right?

1407
01:31:04,500 --> 01:31:07,000
The New Testament.
Jesus definitely goes after the

1408
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:10,200
heart of the individual.
Yes, he goes.

1409
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,600
He he shies away.
I shouldn't say he shies away,

1410
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,500
but he, he makes a point of
emphasis of he emphasizes.

1411
01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:19,100
I tell you say that's the one
tell me about your heart.

1412
01:31:19,300 --> 01:31:22,400
You know what's?
Let's work on the individual now

1413
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:24,800
both of those are important.
Yeah.

1414
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:28,600
How do we know that both of
those are still important

1415
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:34,800
because Joseph Smith while he
did work on the, on the

1416
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,500
individual right?
Yeah, it has to always start

1417
01:31:38,500 --> 01:31:42,700
with the individual, it goes
from individuals to families and

1418
01:31:42,700 --> 01:31:47,900
then it goes to communities and
nations in the Old Testament,

1419
01:31:47,900 --> 01:31:51,400
you have those Nation things.
So Joseph Smith is is very

1420
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:53,900
pronounced on.
You're going to make personal

1421
01:31:53,900 --> 01:31:58,100
covenants but understand This is
in preparation, so that we can

1422
01:31:58,100 --> 01:32:02,200
have this Society beings.
I and so it really, she had a

1423
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,800
kind of likes just wants.
You want to Congregation of

1424
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,200
Saved people?
Yes, Joseph wants to build this

1425
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,800
city.
He wants to build the lamination

1426
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:14,300
a society Society.
He wants to build a people

1427
01:32:14,300 --> 01:32:17,700
that's distinctly different than
anything else it's around at the

1428
01:32:17,700 --> 01:32:22,700
time that Harkens back to
ultimately Very Old Testament

1429
01:32:22,700 --> 01:32:25,200
Roots, right?
Oh yeah, this idea of Zion this

1430
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:29,100
inside, This idea of of
Jerusalem, a New Jerusalem.

1431
01:32:29,700 --> 01:32:32,500
It's a harkening back unto the
tables.

1432
01:32:32,500 --> 01:32:34,500
It yes.
All the things are going very

1433
01:32:34,500 --> 01:32:37,900
much is the the restoration of
all things?

1434
01:32:39,500 --> 01:32:44,900
I love that.
Yeah, I totally agree.

1435
01:32:47,300 --> 01:32:51,000
There's a couple other
interesting occurrences of

1436
01:32:52,300 --> 01:32:58,100
Shavuot.
Let's see one of them.

1437
01:33:00,500 --> 01:33:03,300
Yeah, one of them of course
we'll talk about.

1438
01:33:03,300 --> 01:33:04,600
Let's talk about the day of
Pentecost.

1439
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:09,500
Okay, so again timing is
critical.

1440
01:33:09,500 --> 01:33:14,800
Now we are told explicitly that
it's that it is Pentecost or sha

1441
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,800
below, but if we didn't know
that, you would be able to tell

1442
01:33:18,900 --> 01:33:22,400
actually from really happens for
one, we just look at the timing

1443
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,600
of the events.
So Jesus is crucified on

1444
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:27,600
Passover, right?
Okay.

1445
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,300
He's the best.
He's a pastor but now He's in

1446
01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:32,900
the Tomb for three days.
Okay?

1447
01:33:32,900 --> 01:33:35,200
Or, you know, parts of three
days depending on what you

1448
01:33:35,208 --> 01:33:37,900
believe the chronology is
resurrected.

1449
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:42,100
He shows himself to a couple of
people, he walks on the road to

1450
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:44,800
Emmaus.
He appears to his disciples, you

1451
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:45,900
know.
These are, you know, there's a

1452
01:33:46,500 --> 01:33:49,700
couple of days there, whatever.
And then and then he hangs out

1453
01:33:49,700 --> 01:33:53,000
with his Apostles for 40 days
and right.

1454
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,300
Okay.
So 40 days plus these three days

1455
01:33:55,300 --> 01:33:58,000
in the Tomb and couple of days
on, you know, appearing to

1456
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:02,000
people like that.
Put Us at and then the apostles.

1457
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,200
So he hangs out with them.
And then the apostles they

1458
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:09,200
choose a replacement for Judas.
And by the time, all this

1459
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:13,200
happens like we're looking at 50
days, right, right?

1460
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,400
And then so and then so they go
to the temple.

1461
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,900
Why does Peter go to the temple?
Why are all those people there?

1462
01:34:17,900 --> 01:34:21,400
Who speak different languages?
Why are they all there?

1463
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,000
Because you're so kind of load.
Yeah.

1464
01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:26,100
And they're all there because
it's a pilgrimage.

1465
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:31,900
Okay, and so and there's there's
these Euler elements I'll say.

1466
01:34:31,900 --> 01:34:34,500
So this is how this is, how you
would be able to tell one is the

1467
01:34:34,500 --> 01:34:39,100
timing to is by what happens.
So at the at Sinai, there's

1468
01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:44,900
there's a mountain, there's
fire, there's the law, is given.

1469
01:34:45,500 --> 01:34:52,200
There's a lawgiver.
There's the sound of wind and

1470
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:56,400
Russian of win.
And there's also the velocity

1471
01:34:56,600 --> 01:35:01,700
interpretation of tongue.
So, Now, so all that's present.

1472
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:11,400
You know, in Acts chapter 2 and
interestingly well it's

1473
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:15,700
interesting that there is this
is interpretation of tongues all

1474
01:35:15,700 --> 01:35:18,700
times people.
Say that Peter was speaking in

1475
01:35:18,700 --> 01:35:21,000
tongues Peter was not speaking
in tongues Peter speaking in.

1476
01:35:22,700 --> 01:35:25,700
Hebrew or Aramaic or whatever,
maybe Greek, whatever, whatever

1477
01:35:25,700 --> 01:35:29,500
language Peter normally speaks
in, but all these people who had

1478
01:35:29,500 --> 01:35:33,300
different languages and dialects
they were all hearing it in

1479
01:35:33,300 --> 01:35:36,900
their own tongue, right?
Okay now this actually Harkens

1480
01:35:36,900 --> 01:35:39,900
back to what happened at Sinai.
So again you remember that mixed

1481
01:35:39,900 --> 01:35:41,000
multitude?
Yeah.

1482
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:47,000
And Did you say there was
represent representatives of all

1483
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:52,000
of the 70 Nations there?
And this is not in the, this is

1484
01:35:52,008 --> 01:35:54,400
not in the Torah.
But in knowing the Jewish

1485
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,700
tradition, says that all of
those, all the mixed multitude

1486
01:35:57,700 --> 01:36:01,000
that were at cyanide, they all
heard the word of the Lord in

1487
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:04,300
their own language when who gave
the law there.

1488
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:08,100
So, this is, so what happened to
the day of Pentecost is just a

1489
01:36:08,108 --> 01:36:11,100
mirror image of what happened at
cyanide?

1490
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:13,600
The other interesting thing and
this is kind of a mirror image.

1491
01:36:13,700 --> 01:36:18,600
To is that it says in Acts that
there were 3,000 people.

1492
01:36:20,300 --> 01:36:25,100
That were saved so to speak and
this is in contrast to what

1493
01:36:25,100 --> 01:36:28,500
happened at Mount Sinai, when
Moses came down and broke the

1494
01:36:28,500 --> 01:36:34,000
tablets, the people were
defiling themselves and there

1495
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:35,800
was a little Civil War that
happened.

1496
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:39,400
And there was three thousand
people killed slain.

1497
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,600
And then on the day of
Pentecost, that says there's

1498
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:46,700
3,000 Dean.
Okay, so so that's so that's a

1499
01:36:46,700 --> 01:36:48,800
beautiful thing.
Now, while that's happening,

1500
01:36:50,500 --> 01:36:53,600
Well that's happening.
In the new world.

1501
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,100
Are a sorry in the old world.
Something's happening in the new

1502
01:36:57,100 --> 01:37:01,000
world to because we know that
the descendants of Lehigh like

1503
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:09,200
they kept Torah to MMM.
And so in 3rd Nephi chapter 8,

1504
01:37:09,500 --> 01:37:16,900
the destruction begins, There's
darkness and all of that, they

1505
01:37:16,900 --> 01:37:19,700
hear a voice, right?
And this, this is happening when

1506
01:37:19,700 --> 01:37:23,300
Jesus, Jesus bodies into the,
during those three days of

1507
01:37:23,300 --> 01:37:26,700
darkness.
But then, the darkness goes

1508
01:37:26,700 --> 01:37:31,600
away.
And, and, and eventually Jesus

1509
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,600
comes and visits the, the folks
in the new world.

1510
01:37:35,900 --> 01:37:40,500
Now, we know he doesn't come
right away because he's hanging

1511
01:37:40,500 --> 01:37:43,200
out with his Apostles for right,
40.

1512
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:50,000
Days plus, plus a little bit of
other time when he was, he was

1513
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,500
there.
So when he is, when he is

1514
01:37:54,300 --> 01:37:58,700
available, I'll say when his
calendar is cleared, so to speak

1515
01:37:59,300 --> 01:38:01,400
to come and visit the, the
Nephites.

1516
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:05,500
It's right around shovel again,
the timing.

1517
01:38:06,100 --> 01:38:19,000
So in 3rd, Nephi chapter 10,
Let's see.

1518
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:27,400
Verse 18 actually so-so.
In in chapter 11, right?

1519
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:31,600
This is where Christ descends,
right?

1520
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,600
Mmm.
And and then speaks to them.

1521
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,200
But again, all the all the
people there's it says there's a

1522
01:38:37,208 --> 01:38:39,700
multitude and they're all
gathered to the temple.

1523
01:38:40,300 --> 01:38:44,300
And I mean I think that that's
not an insignificant detail.

1524
01:38:44,300 --> 01:38:47,100
I think they're gathered there
because it's one of at least

1525
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:53,400
it's one of those three times.
And I believe it's a Shavuot and

1526
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,400
so there is controversy.
I'm going to read one verse

1527
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:02,400
here, 35:10, 18 and it came to
pass.

1528
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,200
That in the ending of the 30.
And fourth year, behold, I will

1529
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:10,600
show in to you that the people
of Nephi who were spared.

1530
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:13,200
And also those who had been
called lamanites who have been

1531
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:17,700
spared, did have great favors
shown unto them and great

1532
01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:19,800
blessings poured out upon their
heads.

1533
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:27,300
So, You know, the, the darkness
and stuff happened on the in the

1534
01:39:27,308 --> 01:39:33,200
first month of the 30 34th year.
Mmm, he says, by the at the end

1535
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:38,400
of the 34th year says there's
all these blessings and it says

1536
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:46,500
in so much which is an old word
that means since in so much or

1537
01:39:46,500 --> 01:39:51,900
since or because that soon after
the Ascension of Christ into

1538
01:39:51,900 --> 01:39:55,400
heaven, He truly manifest
himself unto them.

1539
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,900
So it was soon after his
Ascension that he manifested

1540
01:39:58,900 --> 01:40:03,100
himself to them which to me says
shovel.

1541
01:40:03,100 --> 01:40:05,900
Oh right.
Because that was right Shavuot

1542
01:40:05,900 --> 01:40:09,400
wasn't right or Pentecostals
right after the Ascension and

1543
01:40:09,500 --> 01:40:15,700
Jesus appears and then by the
end of the 34th year they are

1544
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,800
they've built this righteous
society and things are going

1545
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,000
well for them.
So so again there's these

1546
01:40:22,300 --> 01:40:24,200
there's these Elements there
also.

1547
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:25,500
So we can tell kind of from the
timing.

1548
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:31,100
And this little hint here in 3rd
Nephi but also in the elements

1549
01:40:31,300 --> 01:40:35,700
again, there's a mountain.
Well, back at Pentecost, there

1550
01:40:35,700 --> 01:40:39,000
was a mountain to, right?
Which was the temple around.

1551
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:40,800
Example, is the mountain of the
Lord.

1552
01:40:40,900 --> 01:40:45,100
That's a great in Bountiful
there at the mountain and Jesus

1553
01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:50,200
comes down and gives the law.
He actually gives a sermon very

1554
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:53,600
similar to Sermon on the Mount.
Right.

1555
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,400
Sermon Bountiful.
Yeah, I'm very simple.

1556
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,800
Yeah.
Serena, which I believe was

1557
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,600
Shavuot sermon as well.
Okay.

1558
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:06,700
And so so there's all these, all
these hints there.

1559
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:10,600
Another interesting.
Well, I don't go ahead.

1560
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,100
If you have, let me ask a
question here real quick because

1561
01:41:13,100 --> 01:41:18,800
there's there's something in 17
that I've always kind of found

1562
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,000
interesting for me by 17.
Yeah.

1563
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:24,500
Okay.
And this is why they're still at

1564
01:41:24,500 --> 01:41:29,600
the temple.
But real quick is there any sort

1565
01:41:29,700 --> 01:41:34,800
of family?
Like with Passover, there's a

1566
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,800
family meal, right?
That happens.

1567
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:46,700
Does anything like that happen?
During show Vu there.

1568
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:53,900
It's not it's not to the same
extent, okay?

1569
01:41:53,900 --> 01:41:57,400
As Passover, we do have a we do
have a family thing that we do.

1570
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,600
Why do you ask?
Well let me let me take a look

1571
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:07,100
at 17 here and this is something
that I had read for years and

1572
01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:14,900
years and never picked out. and,
This is after he's given The

1573
01:42:14,900 --> 01:42:18,500
Sermon on the Mount, this is
right before he heals everybody

1574
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:22,800
and he's getting ready to leave
for a spell.

1575
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:27,800
And I'll just start in verse one
here 35:17 says, behold.

1576
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,200
Now it came to pass that when
Jesus had spoken.

1577
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:33,500
These words, he looked around
about again on the multitude and

1578
01:42:33,500 --> 01:42:36,800
he said unto them behold.
My time is at hand, I perceived

1579
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:39,600
that year, we you cannot
understand all my words, which I

1580
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,200
am commanded over father to
speak unto you at this time.

1581
01:42:42,300 --> 01:42:46,800
Time, therefore go ye unto your
homes and Ponder upon the things

1582
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:49,900
which I have said and ask the
father, in my name, that you may

1583
01:42:49,900 --> 01:42:53,000
understand, and prepare your
minds for the morrow and I come

1584
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:57,800
again.
Now, let's let's paint the

1585
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,500
picture.
There were probably people there

1586
01:43:01,700 --> 01:43:06,100
or I'm not even Pentecost that
acosta's house that that's okay.

1587
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:11,700
Um they were they were there for
that but also you get the sense

1588
01:43:11,700 --> 01:43:15,500
from the preceding that people
who had survived those

1589
01:43:15,500 --> 01:43:19,100
cataclysms came to the Bountiful
Temple.

1590
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:27,100
To see the Savior, yeah.
There's massive destruction.

1591
01:43:28,900 --> 01:43:33,000
There are whole cities, sunk
whole mountains.

1592
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:37,100
Fallen?
Yeah, fire earth, air water and

1593
01:43:37,100 --> 01:43:39,400
fire.
They'll are destroyed and maybe

1594
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:44,900
this has no tie here, but To, to
what we're talking about.

1595
01:43:44,900 --> 01:43:46,500
But something I always found
interesting.

1596
01:43:46,500 --> 01:43:48,300
And so, when you brought this
up, I was just wondering.

1597
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,700
Where's you tell the people go.
Let's go home.

1598
01:43:54,300 --> 01:43:55,300
There's a reason.
Yeah.

1599
01:43:56,700 --> 01:43:59,700
Where's home?
Most of their homes are toast,

1600
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:01,900
maybe?
Right?

1601
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:05,000
Most of those are probably gone.
Yeah, I think what he's saying

1602
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:09,100
is, go back to your family.
Now, this is, I will say, okay,

1603
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:10,500
I like that.
Keep keep going.

1604
01:44:11,300 --> 01:44:12,800
I think what he's saying here
is.

1605
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:16,300
He's like look, even though
you've seen me here, that's

1606
01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:20,800
great.
You need to go home to your

1607
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:25,600
families.
And talk about this as families.

1608
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:30,600
Yeah.
Suddenly or maybe not so subtly

1609
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:36,800
only, so, to us, he's really
emphasizing the importance of

1610
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,800
your family.
Yeah, I like that understand.

1611
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:44,300
This is, this is important.
He could have said, just hang

1612
01:44:44,300 --> 01:44:46,700
out here.
I'm right here, we're good.

1613
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:51,700
We'll just keep hanging out, but
and says he says go home from

1614
01:44:51,700 --> 01:44:54,000
digest.
This the La Voz people's homes

1615
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,400
and prepare yourself for more.
Yeah, I'm prepare yourself for

1616
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:58,300
more.
I think, I don't know, you know,

1617
01:44:58,300 --> 01:45:05,300
that is part of Shavuot.
When actually, I'll tell you the

1618
01:45:05,300 --> 01:45:09,700
reason why the reason why the
conference restoration Torah

1619
01:45:09,700 --> 01:45:13,700
conference is Friday and
Saturday is because in Exodus

1620
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,400
19.
Yeah, 19.

1621
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:24,500
When God is getting ready to
give them.

1622
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:28,900
Sapphire no books.
He actually tells them, says

1623
01:45:29,500 --> 01:45:32,500
take take a couple of days, two
days instead of prepare

1624
01:45:32,500 --> 01:45:36,600
yourselves through.
See mmm, what I have for you

1625
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,500
now.
As far as Jewish Traditions go,

1626
01:45:42,900 --> 01:45:48,200
the feast days are always family
and Community Days so it's not

1627
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,800
quite the same as Passover,
where there's a meal.

1628
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:56,800
But what they'll actually do is
because because the feasts are

1629
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:59,700
like reenactments, what
happened?

1630
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,200
Because you want the same
lesson.

1631
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:07,600
So one of the Traditions that we
have is on on the day of Shavuot

1632
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,900
have like a stay up all night
studying the scriptures

1633
01:46:10,900 --> 01:46:14,100
basement.
Oh but now that's fascinating.

1634
01:46:14,100 --> 01:46:17,700
Stay up all night because they
want to be prepared.

1635
01:46:18,300 --> 01:46:21,700
For God to give them like,
personally they want to be at

1636
01:46:21,700 --> 01:46:24,700
Simon.
I want to be ready for God to

1637
01:46:24,700 --> 01:46:28,600
give them the Torah so that they
can tell their children to know.

1638
01:46:29,100 --> 01:46:34,600
So they can tell their children.
God gave me the Torah so that,

1639
01:46:34,700 --> 01:46:37,700
you know, not just God give our
ancestral Rite, God gave me.

1640
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,600
It's almost a different way of
saying go home and Ponder on

1641
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,900
these things.
Yeah, yeah, I think I think you

1642
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,000
might be on to something there.
Actually.

1643
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,800
This reminded me there was As
yet, he heals them and blesses

1644
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,000
their little ones in the says
they're surrounded by fire

1645
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:54,400
against.
There's the again there's that

1646
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,900
and Pentecost right?
There's fine.

1647
01:46:56,900 --> 01:46:59,000
Yeah Sinai, there's fire.
Yeah.

1648
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:03,600
So there's these he's repeating
elements that that you might

1649
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:09,000
miss if you don't you're not
familiar with for right.

1650
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:10,400
We're going with everything is
built.

1651
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:15,100
Yeah.
Yeah, that's good stuff.

1652
01:47:16,900 --> 01:47:25,000
Another notable occurrence of
this in the scriptures is when

1653
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,900
they enter the chromosome.
Now, you know, when they enter

1654
01:47:27,900 --> 01:47:33,100
the promised land, can you guess
show who you are close Passover.

1655
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,700
Okay, says actually, they the
Jordan River splits, right?

1656
01:47:36,700 --> 01:47:39,700
And to go over the drill, I try
in a very similar way to what

1657
01:47:39,700 --> 01:47:44,300
happened with the Red Sea and
And they celebrate Passover in

1658
01:47:44,300 --> 01:47:47,300
the loan.
They spend their first week in

1659
01:47:47,300 --> 01:47:50,100
the promised land game Passover.
Okay.

1660
01:47:50,900 --> 01:47:56,100
And then, and then they conquer
Jericho.

1661
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:03,000
And, you know, and that take you
again, you kind of you can kind

1662
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:11,000
of look at the timing of things
where they go and they They may

1663
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:14,200
have the Passover and that takes
the unleavened bread, that takes

1664
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,300
a week Passover and unleavened
bread that takes a week and then

1665
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,200
they March around Jericho and
that takes, you know, a week

1666
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:22,500
plus.
Cause I got to get ready.

1667
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,100
And then right when they're
ready, then they do the week

1668
01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:28,800
thing and then they conquer and
Jericho and then and then they

1669
01:48:28,808 --> 01:48:33,700
get ready to conquer Ai, and
which is kind of a battle that

1670
01:48:33,700 --> 01:48:34,900
we're fighting right now.
Yeah.

1671
01:48:34,900 --> 01:48:37,500
I was gonna say there's some
interesting parallels there.

1672
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:43,200
Beats them at first.
Yeah, let's not let's not folks.

1673
01:48:43,700 --> 01:48:47,300
Let's just focus on the end
game, so they repent and they

1674
01:48:47,300 --> 01:48:50,900
defeat Ai.
And, and anyway, you just look

1675
01:48:50,900 --> 01:48:53,300
at the kind of the timing of how
long, all of these things would

1676
01:48:53,300 --> 01:48:56,600
have taken.
And then it doesn't, again, it

1677
01:48:56,600 --> 01:49:01,800
doesn't save the date, but it's,
it's about 50 days, right?

1678
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:08,000
And then Joshua goes up on Mount
the two mountains there, mountie

1679
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:14,000
Ballin Go to escapes me anyway.
Anyway and basically take some

1680
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:19,800
stones and he puts plaster over
them and write on these stones

1681
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,300
and reads the law again to the
people.

1682
01:49:23,300 --> 01:49:26,300
And why are they doing that?
Thanks cuz it's they are

1683
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:30,000
rehearsing Shavuot again.
Right happened at Sinai and but

1684
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:38,500
they're doing it in the land you
know in the promised land and So

1685
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,800
there's some there's some really
interesting things actually that

1686
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:47,000
have been discovered recently
with Mount ebal and the like the

1687
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,400
cabinet.
Have you heard about the lead

1688
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:50,800
tablet?
That was yes covered there

1689
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:56,200
recently with yeah, the oldest
it's like the oldest scripture.

1690
01:49:56,400 --> 01:50:01,400
Scriptural, fragment drying we
have and Mormons should be.

1691
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,400
Their ears will be program
because it's so cool because

1692
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:06,900
it's on a metal tablet.
And it's like, I asked - yeah.

1693
01:50:06,900 --> 01:50:10,800
And All the amazing things.
Now, the instructions for Joshua

1694
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:14,400
to do that.
Our in Deuteronomy.

1695
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:18,100
So this is another kind of
amazing thing is that it and

1696
01:50:18,100 --> 01:50:21,800
they dated the, the carbonated
the bones and they taken samples

1697
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,400
of that little LED.
And they found out that this is

1698
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:27,200
like there's like lead that was
probably came from Greece and

1699
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:32,200
this time period, basically the
things that happened there at

1700
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:35,100
Mount evolve basically happened
at the time when the Bible said

1701
01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:36,700
they were supposed to have
happened.

1702
01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:41,000
Crazy, I know weird, here we
would put a coincidence.

1703
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:44,200
Hey again archaeological.
Logical evidence is kind of

1704
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:47,800
slow.
In its progress, we can come up

1705
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,400
we can come up with theories
about things happen a lot faster

1706
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,500
than we can make discoveries
about what things happen.

1707
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:59,200
Well and I've got my own special
take on archaeology.

1708
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,700
I mean look this is a
disappointment.

1709
01:51:01,700 --> 01:51:03,800
Only been in existence for 100
years.

1710
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,600
Yeah but somehow in that hundred
years, we've been able to figure

1711
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,200
out everything that's ever
happened within the human story

1712
01:51:10,100 --> 01:51:12,100
and not get one thing wrong.
All right?

1713
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:18,400
All right.
So anyway, I like that because

1714
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:29,100
there is There is a documentary
hypothesis for the Torah I was

1715
01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:32,700
here.
You cannot know, the idea is and

1716
01:51:32,700 --> 01:51:34,500
there certainly is some Merit to
this.

1717
01:51:34,500 --> 01:51:36,300
Okay?
So and I wouldn't get you to get

1718
01:51:36,300 --> 01:51:40,300
into the details, but the idea
is that the Torah was not

1719
01:51:40,300 --> 01:51:47,900
written by Moses, but that Moses
was fictional or even if he or

1720
01:51:47,900 --> 01:51:52,500
if he was real, that he just
spoke some things and eventually

1721
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:55,400
Lee some scribes wrote it down
and there's different groups of

1722
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:59,000
scribes that wrote it down and
they all kind of, and eventually

1723
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:03,600
there was a, some editor that
kind of compiled these and like

1724
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,500
change things.
So I can make these different

1725
01:52:05,500 --> 01:52:09,700
things fit and by the time, by
the time, we have the total like

1726
01:52:09,700 --> 01:52:13,400
and then Deuteronomy was the
last thing ring but do and but

1727
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,700
according to this theory that
Deuteronomy was not written

1728
01:52:16,700 --> 01:52:22,500
until or like didn't become a
book of scripture to the Jews.

1729
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:25,800
Until after the time of
Jeremiah, hmm.

1730
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:34,700
You know, with them King Josiah.
But that's an interesting Theory

1731
01:52:34,700 --> 01:52:38,500
and there are definitely some
things in the text that like for

1732
01:52:38,500 --> 01:52:41,800
example, Deuteronomy talks about
Moses is death.

1733
01:52:42,700 --> 01:52:45,500
Well Moses didn't write that
probably.

1734
01:52:46,900 --> 01:52:51,600
So but the conclusion that the
Durant, the documentary

1735
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:56,300
hypothesis folks jump to I think
I can see here obviously as well

1736
01:52:56,300 --> 01:52:59,000
since Moses didn't write those
one or two verses he probably

1737
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,600
didn't write any of it.
There's all there's all late

1738
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:07,000
late, this kind of this.
I mean, this, we have the Book

1739
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:10,700
of Mormon and we know that those
folks like me.

1740
01:53:10,700 --> 01:53:14,500
If I went back to get the five
books of Moses, right at the

1741
01:53:14,500 --> 01:53:16,900
time of Jeremiah.
But according to this

1742
01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:20,100
hypothesis, Deuteronomy wasn't
it wasn't a book.

1743
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:23,100
The fifth book wasn't a book
until after the household.

1744
01:53:24,500 --> 01:53:28,600
Anyway, this, it's a hell of a
cling to make based on two

1745
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,900
little ones.
Well, it's not only that okay,

1746
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:37,000
but but I don't think it is the
scholarly point of view that,

1747
01:53:37,900 --> 01:53:43,100
but I do not think it's I do not
think that the text the Sessa

1748
01:53:43,100 --> 01:53:46,000
Tate's belief in documentary,
right?

1749
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:51,500
No, I don't think so either.
And also this this recent

1750
01:53:51,500 --> 01:53:55,400
discovery of the first tablet
and and the altar that was found

1751
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:58,500
in all the other things of the
archaeological evidence there,

1752
01:53:59,100 --> 01:54:03,200
it takes a lot of, a lot of the
wind out of the sails of the

1753
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:09,200
Majesty of documentary
hypothesis, because because

1754
01:54:09,500 --> 01:54:13,700
those artifacts that they found
and whose instructions were

1755
01:54:13,700 --> 01:54:18,900
given in the book of Deuteronomy
those, the book of Deuteronomy

1756
01:54:18,900 --> 01:54:27,000
was supposedly written, many
many centuries after After right

1757
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:29,200
happened with Josh you know what
was supposed to happen with

1758
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:33,400
Joshua.
So anyway that's my take my take

1759
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:37,400
on that.
So okay I'm going to we've

1760
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:40,500
talked about a bunch of
different.

1761
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:42,900
I'm going to say one other
significant one.

1762
01:54:42,900 --> 01:54:44,200
This is a this is a book of
Mormon.

1763
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:46,800
Another Book of Mormon one is
pretty interesting.

1764
01:54:49,500 --> 01:54:51,900
Again, the timing is the time
with this one.

1765
01:54:51,900 --> 01:54:56,400
The date is not given, but the
symbolism is definitely Shavuot

1766
01:54:56,800 --> 01:55:02,200
because Moses comes down from
the mountain, and his face is

1767
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,000
shining, right as he was
transfigured.

1768
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:05,300
Yep.
Right.

1769
01:55:05,300 --> 01:55:07,700
Faces trans fat.
He's he's shining his face is

1770
01:55:07,700 --> 01:55:10,100
shining and he's talking about
that.

1771
01:55:10,100 --> 01:55:12,100
He's given the the Commandments
right talking about the

1772
01:55:12,108 --> 01:55:14,800
Commandments and does that
happen in the Book of Mormon.

1773
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:19,600
Someone anyone have their face
shining and talking about the

1774
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,700
community, The Ten Commandments.
Oh yeah.

1775
01:55:22,700 --> 01:55:23,700
Yeah.
Been a die, right?

1776
01:55:23,700 --> 01:55:25,000
Yeah.
Yeah.

1777
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:28,200
Talking to the Noah and his
Wicked priest.

1778
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:33,000
So this the symbolism of his
face shining is to get us to

1779
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:36,600
remember, both Moses?
Yeah.

1780
01:55:36,900 --> 01:55:40,200
And what happened at Sinai?
Well, let me ask you this.

1781
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:44,300
We know that Moses was
transfigured on sayonara shove

1782
01:55:44,300 --> 01:55:48,800
it right.
Any links showing that the

1783
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:53,300
savior's Transfiguration of on
the mound happened during show

1784
01:55:53,300 --> 01:55:56,300
week.
That's, I don't know.

1785
01:55:57,500 --> 01:55:59,700
I haven't looked into that.
That's an interesting question,

1786
01:55:59,700 --> 01:56:01,200
though.
Because and also, Moses is

1787
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,000
there.
Yeah, right.

1788
01:56:03,500 --> 01:56:07,000
So I think that's an interesting
possibility.

1789
01:56:07,500 --> 01:56:10,800
Yeah, I don't know if I can do
that.

1790
01:56:12,300 --> 01:56:18,600
Okay, here's a, here's another
one, again. it's a when is when

1791
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:25,200
is Shavuot this year, this year,
it's going to be on May 28.

1792
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:30,200
And because the biblical
calendar doesn't the biblical

1793
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:32,400
calendar.
Doesn't line up with record

1794
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:34,800
going calendar, which is what we
use at the Gregorian, calendar

1795
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:39,200
is a strictly solar calendar,
the Hebrew or the biblical

1796
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:43,400
calendar is a lunisolar.
So the months kind of move

1797
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:47,800
around a little bit.
But it's generally Shabbat is

1798
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:52,300
generally towards the end of May
beginning of June, okay?

1799
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:58,800
Okay so this is Covenant day so
this goes to the the priesthood

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01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:04,400
restoration, okay?
So it's it is amazing for as

1801
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:08,500
significant a date or a
significant a thing.

1802
01:57:08,700 --> 01:57:10,300
As the restoration of the milk
has increased.

1803
01:57:10,300 --> 01:57:16,200
It is we actually don't have a
date for when Peter James and

1804
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:19,300
John showed up, right?
Yeah.

1805
01:57:19,300 --> 01:57:22,300
No, that's yeah, which is, which
is interesting and when we know

1806
01:57:22,300 --> 01:57:26,400
in John, the Baptist came, yeah,
make a team, but we know that

1807
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:34,200
sometime after May 15th and some
time before before the end of

1808
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:38,200
June.
That the priests aggressor is.

1809
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,900
Wow.
We know the first mention that

1810
01:57:40,900 --> 01:57:43,300
we have of it is induct from
Cummings, 18.

1811
01:57:44,300 --> 01:57:47,000
And we actually don't know when
that Revelation was received,

1812
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:50,300
accept it says, it was in June
of 1829.

1813
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:55,800
So as before that Revelation
whenever that was and you know,

1814
01:57:56,100 --> 01:58:00,400
historians have kind of narrowed
it down, but we actually to like

1815
01:58:01,100 --> 01:58:05,000
most likely dates.
But anyway, it's right.

1816
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,500
In their end of May, beginning
of June.

1817
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:13,600
And you'll most my personal
belief that it was drawing is

1818
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,600
tied into shovel units.
So likely, right?

1819
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,500
Because I mean, we have other
significant events from church

1820
01:58:19,500 --> 01:58:23,000
history, right?
That correspond with with Jewish

1821
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:23,800
festivals.
Yeah.

1822
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:26,700
Jewish feast days and so, and
this is coming in day.

1823
01:58:26,700 --> 01:58:28,000
Yeah, this is probably making
day.

1824
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:31,300
So absolutely the old Covenant
of the priesthood, you know.

1825
01:58:31,700 --> 01:58:37,900
Yeah actually having to read
Just remind me in Doctrine and

1826
01:58:37,907 --> 01:58:44,000
Covenants. 84.
Well I won't read it but I'll

1827
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,300
I'll just summarize.
But push 84 has a lot to do with

1828
01:58:47,300 --> 01:58:51,100
the mhm, but one of the things
in there is it actually again

1829
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:55,900
talks about the replacement
versus the redaction hypothesis.

1830
01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:59,500
I think very clearly support the
words.

1831
01:58:59,500 --> 01:59:03,100
Clearly support the adoption
hypothesis but it talks about

1832
01:59:03,100 --> 01:59:08,300
the the aaronic and Melchizedek
priesthoods being together right

1833
01:59:08,300 --> 01:59:10,600
on.
So, Oh, and we know that in, at

1834
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:14,300
least in Israel's history at
least since Egypt, like when

1835
01:59:14,300 --> 01:59:16,900
they receive in located, or when
the milk of the priesthood was

1836
01:59:16,900 --> 01:59:19,900
offered.
The first time, it was travel

1837
01:59:19,900 --> 01:59:24,300
out because the first set of
tablets had no Kids Attic stuf.

1838
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:28,200
So that's when the Melchizedek
priesthood was offered at least

1839
01:59:28,700 --> 01:59:30,800
all right?
Yeah, yeah.

1840
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:34,000
So I think it's perfectly
reasonable to committee that

1841
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:37,100
inference that it was offered
again in this dispensation

1842
01:59:37,100 --> 01:59:40,700
offered I shoveled.
Absolutely.

1843
01:59:42,100 --> 01:59:46,100
Wow.
So how do you celebrate it?

1844
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:53,100
Well, a really good way to
celebrate it is to come to the

1845
01:59:53,100 --> 01:59:55,700
restoration tour conference.
I was going to say it was only a

1846
01:59:55,700 --> 01:59:57,600
conference that was happening
during this.

1847
01:59:59,700 --> 02:00:02,900
So I would highly recommend that
other things that they do.

1848
02:00:02,900 --> 02:00:07,100
You know, I mentioned that
tradition is to stay up, right?

1849
02:00:07,100 --> 02:00:12,100
Studying the scriptures In
preparation you as though you as

1850
02:00:12,100 --> 02:00:15,900
though you are anticipating the
Revelation assign as though,

1851
02:00:15,900 --> 02:00:19,800
they were getting ready to
appear before God and receive

1852
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:22,200
whatever he has to give you,
okay?

1853
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:23,800
So I mean that's a heavy thing.
Yeah?

1854
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:28,400
Okay.
And I'm going to read, I'm going

1855
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:34,700
to read one other thing.
This is in Deuteronomy chapter

1856
02:00:34,700 --> 02:00:48,500
16 verse 16 and will be 17 20K.
Three times in a year shall all

1857
02:00:48,500 --> 02:00:53,600
die males appear before yahuveh
by God in the place, which he

1858
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:56,400
shall choose in the Feast of
unleavened bread.

1859
02:00:56,500 --> 02:01:01,300
That's one in the Feast of
Weeks, shovel load, plus 2 and

1860
02:01:01,300 --> 02:01:03,700
in the Feast of Tabernacles or
Sukkot.

1861
02:01:03,900 --> 02:01:07,900
So that's three.
And then here's what he says, he

1862
02:01:07,900 --> 02:01:11,200
says.
And and they shall not appear

1863
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:15,400
before the Lord, and you were
17.

1864
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:21,000
Every man shall give as he is
able according to the blessings

1865
02:01:21,300 --> 02:01:23,200
of the Lord thy God, which he
hath given.

1866
02:01:24,300 --> 02:01:28,000
So one of the things that is
Shavuot is a time for is

1867
02:01:28,900 --> 02:01:33,500
bringing your offering to God.
And says you bring an offering

1868
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:38,200
and says everyone.
Everyone is no one is exempt.

1869
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:39,900
Everyone.
No one is supposed to appear

1870
02:01:39,900 --> 02:01:43,700
before the Lord empty-handed,
but everyone's supposed to come

1871
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:47,000
according to the blessing.
That you've been blessed with.

1872
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:50,000
So some are going to have more
summer going to have less.

1873
02:01:50,500 --> 02:01:53,200
That's okay.
But do not come empty-handed,

1874
02:01:53,500 --> 02:01:57,700
right?
But so you want to know how to

1875
02:01:57,900 --> 02:02:00,900
keep shovel.
Oh, make an offer.

1876
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:02,700
You have to the Lord and that
can be.

1877
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:07,000
I'm not you know, going to tell
you what that ought to be.

1878
02:02:07,500 --> 02:02:11,900
You probably already know or you
have an idea and if you don't

1879
02:02:11,900 --> 02:02:16,600
know then you know pray and ask
give give Some extra tithing

1880
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:21,400
give some extra offerings, help
a charity, help your neighbor do

1881
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:24,400
it anonymously or or do it in
person.

1882
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:29,800
Whatever it is.
Repent of some pets in.

1883
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:34,500
They have you know give up some
worldly thing that you know you

1884
02:02:34,500 --> 02:02:36,900
should give up bring an
offering.

1885
02:02:37,300 --> 02:02:42,000
It's awesome.
Yeah it's do these conversations

1886
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:45,500
have been amazing, absolutely
amazing.

1887
02:02:46,700 --> 02:02:51,700
You know, I don't know.
If you know anything about it

1888
02:02:51,700 --> 02:02:57,100
but at or portions yeah, sure.
We'll have to we'll have to sit

1889
02:02:57,100 --> 02:02:59,200
down and have a conversation
about those, okay.

1890
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:06,600
Because that fascinates me a lot
and then maybe because I know

1891
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:12,900
like certain lunar signs are
important in Judaism.

1892
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:14,800
Yeah.
And I like to go over some of

1893
02:03:14,808 --> 02:03:16,800
those when we're going to have
the moment.

1894
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:20,100
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I want to keep having you on,

1895
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:22,700
even though we've wrapped up the
calendar series and there's

1896
02:03:22,700 --> 02:03:24,700
plenty more to talk about.
Absolutely.

1897
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:27,400
Well, dude, it's been awesome.
Anything you want to say in

1898
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:31,500
conclusion?
No, I think we can cover a lot

1899
02:03:31,500 --> 02:03:37,800
of it, but So looking forward to
this Shavuot, hope to see many

1900
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:38,800
people there.
Yeah.

1901
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:42,600
The conference if you can make
it and if you can't, by the way

1902
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:49,500
to I'll say the conference
journals with the printed.

1903
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:53,300
Now a lot of the talks have been
recorded and they're on YouTube

1904
02:03:53,300 --> 02:03:55,100
there on those are Hammer
Foundation, YouTube channel, if

1905
02:03:55,100 --> 02:03:58,700
you want to look at.
So you can look at past years

1906
02:03:59,500 --> 02:04:03,000
and also the talks are going to
be recorded.

1907
02:04:03,100 --> 02:04:06,300
And this year, as well, similar,
they'll be put on YouTube

1908
02:04:06,700 --> 02:04:10,200
eventually takes a so we're kind
of slow, but also the conference

1909
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:13,200
journals are available on
Amazon.

1910
02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:20,800
To knows if you want to get past
years for whatever reason, you

1911
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:25,100
want to collection.
So those are available there

1912
02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:26,700
too.
If you're not able to come in

1913
02:04:26,700 --> 02:04:31,700
person to pick one up.
So perfect, dude, it's awesome.

1914
02:04:31,900 --> 02:04:33,000
Good stuff.
Yeah.

1915
02:04:33,100 --> 02:04:35,900
Is going great, awesome.
Alright, bye everybody.

1916
02:04:35,900 --> 02:04:59,500
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1917
02:04:59,500 --> 02:04:59,500
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