Episode #66: Maximizing Our Full Potential W/Derrik Peterson Author Of Energy Unveiled

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Look, we live in some pretty
challenging times.

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Instability is all around us and
it can feel pretty overwhelming

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in order to not just survive,
but to thrive in this time, we

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all need to strengthen our
relationship with God, then

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maximize and engage every
promising gift.

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God has given us in his new
book.

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Energy unveiled, Derek Peterson
lays out some important

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principles, which will give you
the tools and practices to

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strengthen your relationship
with God and help you maximize

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your own potential to get
through these trying times stick

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around. as we break down a few
of the principles from his book

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on this episode of the Mormon
Renegade podcast, There is no

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doubt as a general rule, Mormons
are a real social people and

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there's no better place to
connect with other people than

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at conferences devoted to
Mormonism with that said,

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there's one coming up that I
can't recommend highly enough

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and that is the restoration tour
conference.

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It is happening this year on May
26th and 27th and wind in Utah.

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Many speakers.
You will hear.

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There have been on this podcast.
They include Jacob between

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Hannah, Stoddard Taylor Smith,
Joshua Erickson, Kimberly Smith,

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myself and Or go to Restoration
Torah conference dot-org, or

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click on the link in this
episode page notes to find out

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how you can attend.
Here's the unfortunate truth

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right now as fundamentalists and
traditional LDS folks, we can't

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expect to have accurate history
told by others because true

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history and scholarship is
problematic for certain people.

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And organizations, we're going
to have to do this work

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ourselves and to do that, we
will have to support each other

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in this kind of work.
Now, anybody who's anybody in

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fundamentalist, circles knows
who drew Briny is, he is perhaps

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the most prolific author within
Mormon.

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Fundamentalism.
Drew's newest project is

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something.
I think all Mormons can benefit

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from he is in the process of
creating an annotated version of

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the Doctrine and Covenants.
Once you have a copy of this,

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you will be able to compare
current sections with previous

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versions.
And also what early LDS leaders

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had to say about that particular
section as fundamentalist and

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traditional LDS folks, we are
constantly trying to get back

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into the minds of the early
Brethren this project that

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Drew's engaged in, right?
I was going to be the ultimate

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tool to help us do that now
because this annotated version

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of the Doctrine and Covenants is
such a massive undertaking, Drew

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needs some help from others,
Drew's plan for getting this

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annotated version of the
Doctrine and Covenants out is

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through crowdfunding the link
for that will be out April 4th

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if you want more details sooner,
go to Drew's Facebook page and

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messaging from there and he'll
give you all the details further

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on Saturday.
April 8, I'll be releasing an

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episode that talks about this
project in Greater detail.

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So please if you feel impressed
to do so and have the means I'd

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humbly ask that you reach out to
Drew and support this project,

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that will help Advance the
scholarship and true doctrine of

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the restored gospel because of
your generosity.

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Last year, I was able to buy
better audio equipment and

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software.
I can't tell you how much it

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meant to me.
That not only did you spend your

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time here with me on the podcast
but also that you found enough

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value.
In what I'm doing that you

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donated the podcast, upgrade it
This year, I want to continue to

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grow.
Now, I want to add video to the

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podcast, continue to help you my
guess a myself connect better

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through the show.
The other feature I'm working on

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for this podcast, is something I
have to remain vague about for

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now.
But what I can say is that it's

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something that will help us
better connect as fundamentalist

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and traditional LDS.
Folks, now to get that equipment

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for the video content, I want to
do and to build the

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infrastructure for the other
project.

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With this podcast, do Oh,
nations would certainly be

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welcome or you can go to Mormon
Renegade.com, click that supply

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New stuff will be out soon as
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Now if you can't afford to you
either of those two things, I

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totally get it.
Maybe just keep the podcasting

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your prayers, that will be
blessed with those resources.

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Again, thank you for everything
you do as well as for listening

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to the podcast.
You're listening to the Mormon

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Renegade podcast.
Well, Derek, how's it going?

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Big guy?
I'm pretty great.

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Help yourself doing well.
So we're going to talk about

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your book here, energy unveiled
because I kind of find it

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fascinating, what you did with
it and then of course, the

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workbook that goes along with
it, the art of shaping your

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life.
But before we dive into that, I

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want to give the the audience a
chance to get to know you a

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little bit.
You were raised a

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fundamentalist, right?
I was well, so in that, I mean,

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it's the only thing, you know,
right?

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That didn't have the same
upbringing you had right?

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Living in a fundamentalist
household that sort of thing.

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Right?
When was the first time when was

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the first time you can remember
talking to someone going Omega,

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maybe I'm unique, right?
And and not so much taking for

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granted anymore.
That hey, everyone's Got Two

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Moms or you know everybody He
lives around other

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fundamentalist.
When was that moment for you?

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Where you realized?
Gosh I'm I'm probably kind of

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unique here.
It's about 10:00.

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I figured out pretty quick.
What happened?

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What, what, what tipped it off
for you?

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It's been a really I just
started to seeing a all the

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differences.
You can people in the world

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people out, May 14 really
crashed on for me.

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When I, when I realized there on
one time, they asked me why I

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was asking my bear.
My testimony.

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And I realized after I've seen
so many people in so many

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different places and they all
have different Lifestyles that I

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didn't know what was real
anymore.

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And I was actually where I
really be, my faith Journey was

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actually.
At 14 years old, that's when I

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guess you could say.
We're really all came crashing

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down in my head like what is
real?

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And there's so many people with
so many perspectives and how do

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I know my perspective drill?
And so I pretty much took that

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point because, you know, I had a
long long, pause, you know, for

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me that's kind of what we are
because I'm always really fast

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talker.
And so has really long, pause up

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there in a meeting.
One time when I was supposed to

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parent specimen, I was like, oh
boy.

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And then really just said, I No,
my Lord.

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That my know, there could be
family know that most people, I

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know and are in the church, a
really good and pretty much

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that's why I realize I can start
telling.

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I know there are good, people
have seen not so good.

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People outside the church and
then you know it's like honestly

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don't know what I believe
anymore.

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That's when I really start my
future in right there.

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Got you, got you, let me ask you
this question where you and

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you're a member of the branch.
Right of Christchurch at what

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point did you and you served a
mission?

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Did you always know you were
going to go on a mission?

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Or was there a time?
You kind of wavered a little bit

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or anything like that.
There's most definitely time.

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I kind of wavered.
I always thought Mission with

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expected thing until I hit
about.

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Actually it was from that 14
years old on from for 15 to 16

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years old.
I started becoming start

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questioning everything.
And I saw that there is a real

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living, the lifestyles.
I actually had a friend who had

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left Branch.
Hey, that's my best friend, the

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time and he went in the movie
st.

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George.
And at 15 years old, I pretty

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much came to the conclusion that
I didn't know what was real

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enough so that I was started
planning to leave by 16 years

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old.
I actually meant had planned out

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my process.
I was finally moving st.

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George actually I'm going move.
And with my best friend who had

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left, I was going to was moving
in with him and do what he was

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doing.
Was the idea because I didn't

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know she'll anymore.
I didn't think that there was a

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reason to live religion.
You believe it.

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And then that's actually when I
had my, I guess I had like a

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born-again experience.
As I talked to my grandpa, I

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felt impressed that they could
tell him about everything he's

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ever.
I already told my mom and dad,

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my dad was up was pretty
supportive.

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He says, they will always love
you.

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You fortunately you do and my
mother told me that you should

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actually see with my God, where
did I go wrong?

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And if they can bright and she
was pretty distraught about it,

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we shouldn't then we mention
real quick that you're talking

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about leaving.
So the branch is headquarters if

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you will or a Gathering Spot is
down in South Central Nevada.

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And so when Derek talks about
leaving he's talking about not

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just giving up.
In but moving away from the

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community and kind of kind of
going out.

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So to speak, right?
Yeah, good.

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I just want to clear that
clarify that.

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So you're having all these
feelings.

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And then you said, you talk to
your grandpa and that was the

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Turning Point.
Yeah, I got impressed.

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I should talk to him so I just
he was playing piano one day

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Society building and my grandpa
came in and I just thought I

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should tell him saying to me.
I thought reasonable always been

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very proud.
Cool person.

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And so I was just like again,
like a bunch of projects and so

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I start telling him or he was
thinking all the plans I was

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making and at the end of it, he
can just stare to be coming to

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life.
Oh this is this is really

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serious and he stopped for a
moment dimmer and bowing his

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head for a moment, was his eyes
as he looked up.

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He started speaking went Don't
give something up before, you

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know, if it's good or not
because you can miss out on, so

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much, try everything.
Because you could, if you miss

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something, you didn't give a
chance, you go your whole life,

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not even in and darkness, you
worried, we were in more misery

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than you need, just because you
missed that, to give it a

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chance.
Try everything.

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Because of I'm okay.
Well you saying try your God

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makes sense.
And, you know, I felt like like

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a light, a life, like growing.
Any of that moment.

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Like some it was like, I believe
my experience.

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Like yes, try it as it goes,
this is wisdom, this is truth

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and I'll do.
Okay, let's do this.

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So I started trying to read
scriptures in the time I had

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terrible.
It could not retain any

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information that I read, like I
would read.

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Did you memorize something?
I'd read it over and over, and

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over for like a month.
Memorize one little passage.

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I had terrible recognition,
ability, And then fight, I Tried

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reading, but then we get much
out of it.

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And I tried fasting and got
really hungry.

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That's what I noticed from that.
But then I and all that, I

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prayed a lot and after I don't
know, few weeks of praying, I

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just poured out, my heart was a
lord.

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If you are real view of God, you
are real.

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I will follow you.
I will commit my entire life to

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you.
I just need to know.

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And I remember this just
powerful love just feeling when

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I retired being remember just
being overwhelmed by this just

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powerful impression.
I was like there's a God I know

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it now and no that was when I
felt this Born Again experience

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you have have not normally don't
give a smile off my face since

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then his I posed life inside of
me.

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Sure.
So I guess I want to want to

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just compare and contrast a few
things.

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One is that fundamentalist tend
to get a bad App.

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Because the flds is the only
thing that the outside world

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really seems to see, right?
Because that's what gets

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publicized.
I find it interesting that in,

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in the LDS church one, is that
they try to get rid of as many

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young men as possible, right?
They kick them out.

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So that there's less competition
for for marrying and that sort

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of thing.
And then if you choose to leave

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on your own, you're also
ostracized right.

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And I want and I think it's an

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interesting comparison.
I think it shows that that not

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all fundamentalist or
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same, right?
You go to your dad and you tell

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him, I've got these very real
concerns and and their concerns

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to the point that I'm making
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right?
Not just the community but maybe

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even your faith a little bit and
your dad has the wisdom and

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above all else.
The love to say, I'm always

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going to love you.
Right, I'm always gonna love

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you, I'm always going to be here
for you, that's huge, right?

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to make because it does show,
you know, for my listeners who

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aren't fundamentalists that,
that not all People and not all

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groups are the same when it
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need to choose.
So, so Kudos here to your dad

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for doing that.
So you have this experience,

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where where you talk to your
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again, could have come unhinged
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I mean, your grandfather's been
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of the branch from what I
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And so he must feel like he's
got a vested interest in his

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family.
Being there and so you come up

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and you're like you know I think
I think I'm Splitsville.

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I think I'm out of here and your
grandfather just you know, again

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he could have come unhinged.
He could have done any number of

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things but he said just hold on
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Just don't throw the baby out
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that, I mean I can only imagine,
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that same experience that you
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your grandfather would have got
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what happened?
They would have not for many

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years at least right?
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I don't think you would have had
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think your guard probably would
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they gotten defensive about it.
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defense.
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for really being wise, and
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you and not just Come unhinged,
right?

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So you go on your mission.
What was that like for you?

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As I told you before, I had
recognition of the inability

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inability to Rick, to recall,
most things I read, which really

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suck for the first team up for a
few months because I was really

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the first month, but I got out
there and I dumped the entire

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quad at this point.
I've done, I had done

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everything.
I couldn't research and study

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and I just paint almost nothing.
I mean, I try so hard.

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But I got out there and I start
trying to talk to people and

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they were our first conversation
was like, Second day and someone

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said, yeah, talk to me about
what your your message is

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somebody?
What do you have to say?

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And I remember just like stop
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to tell him about there was a

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really important guy named Jesus
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share with them that God was
real and stuff but I mean I

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should have shared the my
born-again experience so I know

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I should for that now but at the
time I was so flabbergasted

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trying to tell them about you
know the church and stuff and I

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didn't actually know what I'm
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And so that became a wake-up
call I started hitting his me I

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fasted probably two or three
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Week for a month and a half
trying to just been pouring my

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heart out every day because I
was told him that that could do

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something new prayer was a
powerful had done wonders for me

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already, my life.
And so I went deep in prayer

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ability to recall information
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I could, I suddenly recalled
scriptures, I could suddenly

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talk to people.
And then I started to diving

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through the books because now I
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So it was incredible.
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talked to people about that and
some time about time I actually

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got to go to their talk to them.
When Evans conference room where

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it's guns, the the Manti Miracle
pageant where they have all

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those Christians who we spent
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go back and forth bible-bashing.
I guess just see what's real,

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what's not?
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of experience.
I had currently with my now

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actual memory.
He weeks.

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So I got destroyed and those
Bible matches for quite some

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time.
And then start getting a, I

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started praying prayers again.
I start wandering eye.

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My Testament is time was that
God was real not that any

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particular region religion was
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It was like, okay, God
Christianity is real.

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I'll go you show me, I'll go,
I'll go anywhere.

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You say, this is real is where
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I'll do it.
Torre told God, I give you my

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life, this is where he want me.
I'll go.

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And so I spent her two and a
half days fasting while talk to

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these people and Ended up
getting another very powerful.

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Witness of the, truthfulness of
the book of Book of Mormon of

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more, anything else, the
teachings of the, of the Mormon

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Mission.
And God showed me a lot of these

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things were real.
And then by the Christian

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worldview, they're trying to
show me was exactly accurate.

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He gave me more, give me more
information taught me more and I

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was like, okay well that's real.
Then I'm going to fall that I

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turned actually they talking to
those Christians who actually

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for destroying the Bible
discussions.

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Now.
That new information was

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actually making a lot of them
question started to working with

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them on that and it was that was
honestly continual progression

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in that manner.
I would have experienced more

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miracles throughout my mission,
as I got more and more in tune

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with God, when I always had an
interest in what caused America,

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how was the like a scientist?
Because you know, you have the

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scripture Indian C-130 2021,
where says, in the before the

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foundations World, there was a
law upon which every blessing is

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predicated.
If you order to obtain any

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blessing, you divide by that
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So every law has a blessed.
Every blessing has a law.

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You have to follow logic
blessing.

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It's pretty pretty
straightforward, but what was

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the blessing with the law to get
a miracle?

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And so I've actually been
researching that since my start

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a mission, I was 18 years old
and that's what kind of led us

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to a book, actually, because I
wanted to, I'm studying, how to

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get miracles in our lives, once
the science behind the mind, and

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That mission again, it continued
working towards those laws,

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finding out what it takes to do
it and especially experience the

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miracle morning, the else's the
continuation of all that, that's

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amazing to me.
Okay before we dive into that I

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want to go back and I want to
show, you know, just kind of

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point out a couple of things and
that is you have this Faith

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crisis and so with with this
Faith crisis you almost get

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bumped back to zero right?
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As a kid, you grow up and you
kind of borrow light for lack of

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a better term, right?
You you borrow light from your

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parents, you borrow light from
your church leaders, you borrow

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light from your friends, to get
you through till you, get your

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own testimony and then the time
comes where you start relying on

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your own testimony.
It sounds like in your like I'm

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not so sure about all this
right.

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I mean let's face it you know as
a kid that doesn't look like the

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funnest way of life, right?
You're good.

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You're going to where you're
going to wear a suit.

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Long underwear and go to church
for an excessive amount of

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period.
Right.

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So I mean it's not like it's the
most appealing thing out there

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but I think what's interesting
is and I think this sets a

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pattern, right?
Because right now Mormonism and

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especially the LDS church is
going through a a time where the

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term Faith crisis is huge.
Right?

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You have Millennials leaving
left and right from all

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religions.
And so the LDS church and

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certainly fundamentalism is not
immune to ooh, those same

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problems but I think you said a
good pattern, which was You were

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open about it, you just said,
Hey Dad, I'm questioning this

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Grandpa, I'm questioning this
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You have an experience that
allows you to hold on a little

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bit longer.
You, you establish step one,

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there's a God and then you feel
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Promptings to go do this
Mission.

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I find it interesting that you
go on a mission to convince

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other people that fundamentalism
is a great way to go.

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But yeah, you don't got a full
testimony of it for Yet, right?

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I mean, it sounds like you
really develop your testimony of

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the restoration, so to speak,
while on your mission.

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Oh, yeah, for sure.
And so, I think what that shows

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is that there's, there's a
building process, right?

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There's there's a momentum at
work here where you don't get to

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just go from 0 to 100.
You got to kind of build up,

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right?
I mean, certainly, there are

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people that have those
experiences that take them from

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0 to 100.
On that Faith Journey.

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But I think more times than not,
it's a gradual process.

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Oh yeah, it's like the sun
rising.

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It doesn't go from completely
dark to Noonday in a second.

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Right.
And you know normally there's a

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rising of the sun till the sun
is fully exposed from behind the

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landscape and then and then
you're off and running.

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So I just wanted to point that
out real quick that I think

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there's some important things we
can take away from there and

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then you talked about out, how
how through you, you know, on

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your mission, you got curious
about some things and you wrote

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this book, energy unveiled, Now,
in this book as you and I talked

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about it previously, this was a
book that you wanted to write

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not just for Mormons, right?
Whether that's LDS Mormons or

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Mormon fundamentalist or
whatever.

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The case is, this was a book you
wanted to write for the broader

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world.
Is that correct?

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Well, I think that's a question.
You take another step back,

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everything after my boring
experience, I did, I did by by

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Revelation.
I didn't do anything else.

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I was told to First making big
anyway.

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So for example, for the mission
part, I said, Lord, I know that

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they expect me to go on a
mission.

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I'm not going to do it unless
you tell me too because I told

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you, I give you my life.
What do you want?

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And the Lord home.
And I felt this powerful

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calling, like almost like, like
yelling fervent you command.

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The I was to go on a mission.
Mission like repeated over and

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over and all my prayers.
It was very adamant that I

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sneezed to go on a mission.
Only that I could, or should I

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needed to?
And I was, I, okay, obviously,

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this is important to me and
that's when I didn't God's, what

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I had continuous do throughout
my life, for writing this book,

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I wrote it because in the way I
did because I was told you need

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to write this so anyone can have
a testimony of God and even when

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it can read it in gained and see
the power there and see the

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power.
Miracles and see that the laws

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science and spiritual backing of
all of it.

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So there's very few scriptural
references in it, which is

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different for me because I love
ra scripture references.

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I love the scriptures.
I love to delve into them super

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scripture after scripture Savvy
but I was told you need to hold

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back those.
So you do not block the veil

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from anyone else.
You don't?

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You don't have put a hindrance
on their progression as many

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people have a dogmatic view
point of religion.

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They see anything religious.
As a red flag.

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So I was told to write it.
Anyone can get a testimony of

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God through this book.
He's its portrait some of this

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true characteristic is his true
nature and so I brought it for

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that purpose.
In fact I'm actually writing now

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a book it's called a it's going
to be called the super power of

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belief.
I am using what the scripture

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references and that one I'm
actually using a lot of I'm

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tying everything in together.
Just really expound upon the the

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actually the art of leaving
something.

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I'm so, so you really wrote this
book, then for to kind of teach

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gospel principles without
making, it seem like you're

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teaching gospel principles, is
that a good way of putting it?

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Yes, but it's really really rich
from a very neutral standpoint.

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The whole point of it is to help
get people have more miracles in

453
00:24:43,608 --> 00:24:45,900
their life.
Now, get closer to God,

454
00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:49,600
regardless of your background,
is that there are a few quotes a

455
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,600
scripture in there, there's even
a chapter called the need of

456
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,900
atonement chapter 13.
It's the in an effort to show

457
00:24:56,900 --> 00:24:59,400
people.
The like, the reason, the logic

458
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,300
and the scientific backing of
why we could you could would or

459
00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:05,200
should use a savior.
And then the things I've asked I

460
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,000
do talk like and stuff still in.
There.

461
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:09,200
I just don't tell covered as
much.

462
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:13,900
I got you because it's because
that's that's the one thing and

463
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,300
I'm glad to hear you're writing
a follow-up book, that's may be

464
00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:22,500
geared more towards people who
are religious or have

465
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:26,900
convictions within a
restoration, analyst kind of

466
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,400
framework.
Because like I as I picked up

467
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,300
the the chapter you sent me.
I'm like, you know, if if If a

468
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:41,200
Mormon who's really based in the
restoration was to pick this up

469
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:45,600
at first, it seems kind of new
agey on the surface until you

470
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,800
dive deep in your like, oh I see
what he's trying to teach their

471
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,400
right.
I see what he's trying to get

472
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,700
across.
So real quick, let's just take a

473
00:25:54,708 --> 00:26:00,100
few examples of principles that
you have in the book because I

474
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:03,500
really want to dive into that
and what you call it in the book

475
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:05,600
and then tie it to a gospel
principle.

476
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,500
Does that make sense?
Okay, so go ahead with that.

477
00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:12,600
Start off with one.
So, meditation would be the

478
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,200
closing of prayer and
meditation, is really you just

479
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,700
going deep into yourself and
speak to the inner part of God's

480
00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:21,500
inside all of us because I, as I
talk in the book, I talk about

481
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:24,200
how there's a Quantum field in
which there is an scientific

482
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,700
scientifically.
They've proven there's a Quantum

483
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:29,100
field out there, energy at
energetic Force throughout the

484
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:31,800
Universe, sustains holds and is
even considered by many

485
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,500
scientists to be a loving
energetic force, a loving

486
00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:39,900
intelligence And that were to me
is God, that's just another name

487
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:44,100
for the spirit of God, that's in
about an altar in and throughout

488
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:47,700
all things.
I'd say, sign I'm I'm in.

489
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,500
Need you to clarify that real
quick.

490
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:53,900
Okay, a spirit God.
Okay, we know from Joseph's

491
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,900
First Vision that God has a body
of Flesh and Bone, right?

492
00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:00,300
Yes.
So what are you talking about

493
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:02,100
their than?
Are you talking about the Holy

494
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:03,600
Ghost?
Are you talking?

495
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,900
Yeah?
Okay.

496
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,100
All right.
Perfect.

497
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,700
And don't lie.
The Holy Spirit self.

498
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Thank you.
It's the, it's the ether of the

499
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,400
essence of God, the spirit of
God, that the movie, they all

500
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,300
tie into.
I feel like that though the

501
00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:20,800
entire purpose of josas
teachings, as he's actually

502
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,800
trying to show everyone how to
come to God through the holy

503
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,400
spirit because that's the part
of God, that's in thrall things.

504
00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:29,400
That's the part of God that if
we all tired of so back to its

505
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,400
the mind of God, because say
because through becoming one of

506
00:27:33,408 --> 00:27:35,200
the Holy Spirit, you can one
heart, one mind.

507
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:39,000
And so cool.
So could that be another word

508
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,500
for surrendering?
Our will to the father's?

509
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,900
Yes.
Right.

510
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:46,600
Because often we start talking
about the mind of God?

511
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:51,200
The first thing I think of is as
a Mormon is, you know, when

512
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,900
Christ is in the The Garden of
Gethsemane and he says, you

513
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:57,300
know, let this cup pass from me,
I don't want it.

514
00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:00,000
But nevertheless, your will be
done.

515
00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:03,400
So when you start talking about
the mind of God and we talking

516
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,800
about like trying to align Our
will to his will.

517
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:11,400
Yeah, because the more you do it
mean the Christ in the end

518
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,000
actually got a greater glory
because what he had done right

519
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,200
and that God's goal for all of
us, he's trying to help us all

520
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,400
to progress in the best way
possible to bring as much life

521
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,900
and light everyone around us and
to ourselves means as the

522
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:28,700
purpose of God, is to bring the
pass the immortality and eternal

523
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:31,000
life of man, that's the purpose
of God.

524
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,900
Then all the things he's showing
have actually helped us do or

525
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:37,500
guiding us to do our for our own
good, right?

526
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:39,800
That's okay.
It's like following the loving

527
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,100
parent.
You're just going to get better

528
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:45,800
stuff to do, right.
There's no reason I think I

529
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,500
think.
Also as Mormons we can't just

530
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:53,100
dismiss this idea of meditation
out of hand, right.

531
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,200
I think there's real value in
meditation, right?

532
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:03,200
I think we taught we hear often
times, you know, in the New

533
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,300
Testament especially that the
Christ separates himself from

534
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:07,900
everybody including his
apostles.

535
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,900
And he goes off by himself,
right?

536
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:12,700
Yes.
And I can only imagine that

537
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:17,400
those were times of reflection
and meditation and and maybe

538
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,600
scripture study those sorts of
things, right?

539
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:27,200
So, so I think, I think that
meditation isn't something that

540
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,200
we need to shy away from his
Mormons, right, as long as it's

541
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,500
christ-centered, of course,
would be where I put that

542
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,500
awesome.
How about another one?

543
00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:39,200
Give me another one.
Without giving away the whole

544
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,600
book, how's that?
Okay, I mean the whole book is

545
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,900
so, it covers so many different
topics that I don't feel like,

546
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:49,300
unless we were talked for at
least 10 hours, we'd actually

547
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:52,000
get everybody topic covered.
That's just, what was I?

548
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,100
So I feel pretty safe in that,
perfect.

549
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:58,200
That comb, the next one would
be, it would be proud be Faith

550
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,100
itself.
The print, the faith principle

551
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:03,400
is actually want to try cover
strongest in the book and it's

552
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,400
the idea of how to have how to
have faith or another one in his

553
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,700
belief.
But Faith actually, believe

554
00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:13,000
faith is a combination.
I think you call it faith in the

555
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,700
book or you call it believe.
For I won't bathe at one point

556
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:18,600
at the end.
I know I do not believe faith

557
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,800
and belief or the same thing
though, they are related.

558
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,100
So actually, I don't call it the
language of God either, but I'd

559
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:27,000
say is language about how to
pray.

560
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,000
It's the formula for speaking to
the infinite intelligence, or

561
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,000
God's spirit, the holy spirit
that we that I cover a lot of

562
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,500
through the book, which is a I'd
say I call it faith.

563
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:42,900
I should call thinking of last
chapter, which is chapter 17.

564
00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:50,700
I-it's the union of your heart
and your mind that really causes

565
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:56,500
a faith process inside, taking
the thought and super charging

566
00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:59,700
it with the heart, which is why
I got often talks about the

567
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:05,500
scriptures like mosiah 2412 God,
Liz solve thoughts of their

568
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:09,000
heart doesn't actually off.
Didn't actually go to the

569
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,200
scriptures.
You can see several places where

570
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,900
God says I looked on the on the
actions of man or the outward

571
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:17,300
appearance but on the heart and
talks about and Samuel.

572
00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:19,900
When is it going to David or
there's others?

573
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:23,300
That one's already says, as a
man thinketh in his heart.

574
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:25,100
So is he?
I know there's a lot of

575
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:28,800
scriptures actually that will
relate thoughts to the heart and

576
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,500
said, says that's why that is?
What God hears.

577
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,700
And I try to break a lot of that
down of how to utilize that

578
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:36,300
because I believe that's true
faith.

579
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,800
Faith isn't I mean, faith is the
substance of things hoped for

580
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:42,800
the evidence of Things Not Seen.
That's a really cool scripture,

581
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,200
I love it.
But what does it really mean?

582
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:47,200
Most people don't actually have
an answer for that.

583
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:48,700
They get down to the Deep core
of it.

584
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:52,100
It's, it's kind of mystical.
You try to understand the whole

585
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:55,400
process of how to ask.
And I'd say, faith itself is the

586
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,800
language of God.
It's how to speak to God.

587
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,700
Now, I break this down the
formula.

588
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:01,400
I don't actually normally call
by its name.

589
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,500
The book I do last chapter of
you said, gotcha.

590
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,600
Gotcha.
You know, faith is One of those

591
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:15,200
things faith and belief where?
I think we don't Focus may be

592
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,400
quite enough on right?
I don't really even as Mormons I

593
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,800
don't think we focus on that
enough, right?

594
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,300
Because you hear the Savior say,
if you had the faith of a grain

595
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:31,600
of mustard seed of a mustard
seed, you could command these

596
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,400
mountains to be laid low.
Yeah, those are pretty

597
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,700
substantial promises, right?
But I think I think there's some

598
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:43,300
prerequisites that go along with
that, right?

599
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:49,300
I don't think that.
You can just be asking for those

600
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:51,500
kind of Miracles because you
want to see them, right?

601
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:56,400
Christ said those who seek after
signs or wicked and evil

602
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,900
generation.
And so, we have to be careful

603
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:02,500
with that.
And I think that goes back to

604
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:06,200
that part about making sure your
Wills aligned with the father,

605
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,700
right?
And I think we can also point

606
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:12,900
back to, you know, I think that
ties back to the scripture in

607
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:16,900
the New Testament, where Christ
says, you know, Seek ye first

608
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:19,500
the kingdom of God, then all
things shall be added to it.

609
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:21,900
Right.
I think I don't think God's

610
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:26,900
going to trust us with that kind
of power without aligning.

611
00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:30,500
Our will to his first, right?
I don't agree.

612
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:33,600
And actually I cover that in
chapter 16 in my book there's a

613
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,900
there's a there's so much
potential energy just flowing

614
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:39,500
through our bodies. 1 point 4
volts.

615
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:43,700
That's energy just lying dormant
in setting in our in our the

616
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,500
atoms.
Our bodies What's there?

617
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:48,900
We do it that?
I think we need to be careful.

618
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:51,200
I don't know if you've seen The
Matrix but let's not give the

619
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,800
machines any ideas.
So got all the others you have

620
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,000
our bodies.
Yeah.

621
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,700
Yeah.
Have you seen The Matrix?

622
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:01,700
Yeah.
Yeah.

623
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:03,400
Let's let's let's not give the
machines.

624
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,300
Any any ideas?
But you know, I don't know.

625
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:09,800
I think you you hit on another
point, right?

626
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,500
Something happens when we're in
tune with God, right?

627
00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:17,000
I go.
Excuse me.

628
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,400
I go back again to the account
of the woman with the issue of

629
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:28,000
blood right just by faith alone
and just by touching the Savior,

630
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:35,900
she's able to be healed, she's
able to be to be made whole and

631
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:41,400
I think that is a Principle that
we have yet to grasp.

632
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:51,699
And I say that, I think that we
I think we might have isolated

633
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:54,900
accounts of it but I don't think
we grasp it completely as a

634
00:34:54,908 --> 00:35:00,000
people yet.
Oh, I I think we're we are so

635
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,400
there's so much more to learn
in.

636
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,800
That field mean, Joseph Smith
actually says that faith is the

637
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,600
foundation of all, of all of all
righteousness.

638
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,500
He says, it's the first
principle of in revealed,

639
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:13,200
religion and Foundation of all
upon a long time and all

640
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,000
righteousness.
Like, if you want to be

641
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,500
righteous at all, you want to
build which means you're British

642
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,400
in line with God, you have to
start with faith.

643
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:24,900
And if you enter through that
principle first, All things

644
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:29,300
shall be added unto you, right?
Well, and I think also that that

645
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,100
whether we like to admit, excuse
me.

646
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:36,100
Again, I was at the hospital all
night and I'm, I'm a little bit,

647
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:41,600
I'm in some rough shape at the
moment, but um, whether people

648
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:48,900
want to realize it or not, we're
all motivated by faith.

649
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,600
We wouldn't do anything without
faith, right?

650
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:57,000
Let's take something as mundane
as turning on the lights, right?

651
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,800
We have faith that when we hit
that switch.

652
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,900
Lights going to come on in the
house, right?

653
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Likewise when you go to work,
you have faith that your boss is

654
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,100
going to have a check that
clears for you.

655
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,600
Take it, take it further, I mean
or even closer to your the home.

656
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:19,000
You actually don't take a step
without faith.

657
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:22,700
You mean as if I were to break
down the biological system, it's

658
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:26,700
happening there, you have a
thought that sends a lexical

659
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:31,100
signal or impulse down.
You're down the the Spinal

660
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,800
system or to the vagus nerve
down to your city, to your

661
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,600
subconscious body conscious mind
which is actually housed in your

662
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,200
solar plexus and it actually
distribute the information

663
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,200
through your body but it's
happening in fractions of a

664
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,100
second.
But what's happening is you

665
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:48,000
don't actually say but move you
actually say in your head, think

666
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,700
take that I move forward and
your body, then takes the

667
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:52,800
command and moves forward.
So what you can do is what Jesus

668
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,100
Christ did with with people who
are the lame.

669
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:58,400
He went from said, you have, you
have faith that we can heal you

670
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,300
and it ended after they like,
yes.

671
00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:03,500
I've been standing pretty much
all he says, like he's like, do

672
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:06,900
you have faith to heal you, that
you can be healed and you can

673
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:12,500
walk and he says, yes I do.
Is then I command you to stand.

674
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,700
Like, if you have the faith to
stand and stand, it's the faith.

675
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:18,400
That really hits it though.
Oh, it's these, they say the

676
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,800
scriptures.
All things are created for

677
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,500
spiritually, then physically if
you create the idea or the faith

678
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,100
about that person idea.
Then you are actually planting

679
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:33,600
that as a belief in your system
and it actually will elaborate

680
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,800
into you.
You know, and I think that ties

681
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:43,900
in with what what God told.
Moses his name was right.

682
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:48,700
You remember he's up there on
the mountain and this is where I

683
00:37:48,707 --> 00:37:53,300
can really relate to Moses
because God says I want you to

684
00:37:53,308 --> 00:37:56,300
go back to Egypt I want you tell
pharaoh.

685
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,100
The he has to let the Israelites
go.

686
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,000
Moses first goes well I'm slow
of speech.

687
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,800
I can't do that for you.
I'd love to but you know really

688
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,700
not my thing and God says, don't
worry.

689
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:10,000
I got.
I'll give you a spokesman.

690
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,200
Yeah, yeah.
Who made man's mouth mean?

691
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,600
I could change that.
Right.

692
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,300
Right.
But you know, the Lord provide

693
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:23,000
what I'm saying is the Lord
provides a solution.

694
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,000
So Moses doesn't have an excuse
and then he says, well, you

695
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,600
know, I'm gonna go to these
Elders that live down in, you

696
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,400
know, in the, the, the ghettos
of Egypt, so to speak where

697
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,900
they're making bricks.
And what do you want me to tell

698
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:41,400
him?
Who do you, who should I say?

699
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,600
I sent me and he says, tell him
I am sent you, and I find it

700
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:53,000
interesting that That phrase.
I am carry so much weight.

701
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,600
Oh yeah.
I think I think there's so much

702
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,900
to be said for filling in the
blanks behind.

703
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:03,000
I am.
Right?

704
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:09,300
The most powerful words in the
English vocabulary to our

705
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:10,700
subconscious mind.
Yeah.

706
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:13,100
I mean, just fill in the blanks.
I am happy.

707
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,500
I am faithful.
I am satisfied, I am whatever it

708
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:20,000
is.
Right.

709
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,000
I think I think there's because
we are our fathers children

710
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,800
there is that little bit of
spark of divinity within all of

711
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,500
us.
Oh yeah and and it's a matter of

712
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:41,800
accessing that and and learning
how to do it in a way that is I

713
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,100
don't know, practical for lack
of a better term.

714
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:49,900
Yeah, I saw examples of this I
played I played a little bit of

715
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:56,200
Semi-Pro ball and I remember we
had a quarterback and at first

716
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,100
it used to used to, just
irritate me.

717
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:02,200
We could be down, 21 nothing in
the fourth quarter and we have

718
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,600
this quarterback because like we
got him right where we want

719
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,000
them.
I'm like really really we got

720
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,000
him right where we want because
we're down by three touchdowns

721
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:16,200
in the fourth but with that
sense of confidence that sense

722
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:21,600
of we got this, that that That I
am where I am going to score on

723
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,800
this drive.
I am going to to make that first

724
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,700
down things, just clicked
easier, right now, you still had

725
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:31,900
to exert effort, you still had
to work for it.

726
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:38,000
You still had to put forth, the
the physical action behind it,

727
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,800
but there there's something that
happens when you start bringing

728
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,600
things out of obscurity, right?
What I do here on the podcast

729
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:51,000
I'd cast.
I I've often looked back on.

730
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,900
I got no business doing this at
all, right?

731
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:57,400
I mean have no experience in it
whatsoever.

732
00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:02,300
But two things I felt like I had
on this one issue.

733
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:04,600
Anyway, and I'm not perfect at
by any stretch of the

734
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,900
imagination is, I was able to
kind of align, my will to the

735
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:10,300
father's on to the father's will
on this.

736
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:13,400
I felt like he this was a
charge, he gave me.

737
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,500
And then from there, I just
went, okay, here we go, we're

738
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:20,600
off and running, I'll Figure it
out as I go and I think you can

739
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,500
see that also with Nephi right
when when he says, you know, God

740
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:28,500
doesn't give any Commandments.
To the children of men safe.

741
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,700
He shall prepare a way for that
thing to get done.

742
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,900
Same sort of deal, right?
In that case, it would be, I am

743
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:41,900
on the Lord's, errand, right.
And because of the fact that I

744
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:45,300
am on the Lord's errand, I can
expect help from God.

745
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,900
So, I think, I think there's a
little bit of that spark of

746
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:51,600
divinity, within each of us that
if we can tap into that, if we

747
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,500
can make that work, we can we
can help in that creative

748
00:41:56,500 --> 00:42:02,400
process with, with our father.
And I think that runs the gamut,

749
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,900
right?
I don't think that's something

750
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:07,300
that's exclusively Mormon by any
stretch of the imagination.

751
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:11,900
I think a guys like, you know,
Henry, Ford or Alexander Graham

752
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:14,800
Bell or Thomas Edison or
whatever it is, they're bringing

753
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:20,900
ideas out of obscurity, out of
of randomness of chaos and

754
00:42:20,908 --> 00:42:24,800
they're bringing order to that I
living somehow.

755
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:30,000
I mean it's yeah I look at that.
I say I say there's a there's a

756
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,400
spark of divinity there there
Are there is something with

757
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,000
within them that that they
recognized, right?

758
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,300
They may not have understood
that.

759
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:43,200
It was, you know?
Spiritual DNA from our father,

760
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:50,700
but there was something to that.
It's the inherent ability of man

761
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,400
and so some of the we have that
beyond that, no other creature

762
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,800
on the world has is the ability
to channel the spirit of God in

763
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,200
this way, as we have the ability
to tie back into that.

764
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,400
If I were to speak on and
scientific terms believe the

765
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,100
source of all life, and if you
can tie our Fields together, we

766
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:11,400
can and implant that image in
that moment, we're actually able

767
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,500
to cross that desire through
space and time as our drawing to

768
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,000
us.
Through a Quantum reality.

769
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,600
Right.
All right, let's move on to

770
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,700
another subject.
What's another topic?

771
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,600
We would be the one belief.
Then we cover that one, we can

772
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,000
cover that more.
So the belief I'd say, is

773
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,500
actually a setup.
You could.

774
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:35,100
If I were to speak
scientifically, it's a set of

775
00:43:35,107 --> 00:43:37,000
programs.
Build your subconscious mind

776
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,800
throughout your system.
Like, for example, if I have a

777
00:43:39,808 --> 00:43:42,500
belief that I can't do a certain
thing, like you were saying

778
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:44,900
before, it's the belief, you
have a few, if you're gonna win

779
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:47,900
or not because everyone actually
in a football is a good example.

780
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,400
Football game, they both have,
they all have a belief.

781
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:55,800
What's going to happen?
Some people, it's the I'd say

782
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,400
it's a level of belief, they
have themselves and then their

783
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,900
ability that actually determines
what they're going to accomplish

784
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:04,400
in that game.
Like, you guys are contesting,

785
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,700
your boat, your force of will
against each other.

786
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:09,300
Your beliefs are hitting against
each other and opposing.

787
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:12,000
What are you hoping?
People get out of this book.

788
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:16,700
To learn how they can change.
Did he beat you?

789
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:20,200
Because how becoming a new being
in Christ would actually change

790
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,600
their life?
Is most people see as becoming

791
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,500
to being cries occupied.
You the things I think a lot of

792
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:28,500
Christians preach that we don't
become a new Nubian Christ will

793
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:31,000
actually just be the same.
He saved me he saved.

794
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,900
I'm definitely saved all my sins
aren't and but I can keep

795
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:35,800
sinning, doesn't change it.
Yeah, that's work.

796
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:38,300
You have to become a new person
in Christ.

797
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,900
And the Really the goal here is
Spirit told me to write book,

798
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:44,100
that's why I wrote book is
spiritually too, but he said he

799
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:46,500
wanted to heal the world.
He wanted to show them his

800
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:48,200
power, he wanted to give him a
testimony of him.

801
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:52,100
And it's, I guess another
testimony of the power of God

802
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:54,500
and how we come back to you
isn't a blueprint.

803
00:44:54,500 --> 00:45:01,000
Another plan formula how to come
back to God and be re immersed

804
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,400
into his spirit and experience a
new level of life.

805
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,600
No one, you've never exceeded
imagined was possible from

806
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,700
before, I'm experiencing its
better.

807
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:12,700
My relationships is better.
My health is Made Me Stronger

808
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:15,300
the getting more financial
opportunities.

809
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:18,100
It's means Inspire my mind of
many different ways.

810
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,000
But it's all through becoming
more one God and asking in that

811
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,600
men, the men and the prevent
yeah, language of got it called.

812
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:33,300
Yeah, you know and I do agree
with you that that scripture

813
00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:35,900
Bears out.
The fact that God wants us to

814
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:41,900
have joy, men, are that men
might have joy, and so I agree

815
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:42,800
with that.
Totally.

816
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:50,800
I think sometimes we allow
ourselves to To dictate the

817
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:56,900
terms of our own Joy, right?
And and also yeah, and sometimes

818
00:45:56,900 --> 00:46:00,700
God is like, you need to find
joy in the situation, I put you

819
00:46:00,707 --> 00:46:04,100
in right now, right?
But if the act of feeling the

820
00:46:04,107 --> 00:46:06,600
emotion of Joy, now that
actually gets you can get can

821
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,300
get you out of it by becoming
exactly.

822
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:11,800
Exactly, it's not like depressed
of the moment.

823
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:17,600
One of the most spiritual men I
ever knew And in some ways this

824
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,000
used to just irritate me because
he could just keep that great

825
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,200
Outlook no matter what, but he
would go through a trial.

826
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:32,300
And I remember he would say and
I mean he had a ton of like

827
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,800
within the space of three
months.

828
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,300
His mother passed away.
His wife was diagnosed with

829
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:42,400
cancer.
He was diagnosed with cancer and

830
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,700
his kid was in a horrible car
accident.

831
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,800
And he just kept coming to work
smiling and I'm like, bro.

832
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:51,200
Good on you.
I don't know how you do it.

833
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,400
That's great because me, I'd be
whining like a little kid, the

834
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,900
whole time and he said, I
thought about this a little bit

835
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,400
and he's like, what I did is i
instead of asking why me, I

836
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,200
asked the question, what am I
supposed to learn here?

837
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,700
And as soon as he changed that
perspective, not only did that

838
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:16,300
give him a sense of Peace in the
moment through those adversities

839
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:20,400
and I'm not saying it's easy
because I try it and I stink on

840
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,100
ice on about it, right?
So I'm still figuring it out

841
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:27,300
too, but this guy seemed to have
it kind of dialed in and what

842
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:32,200
was interesting is that As he's
going through those challenges,

843
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:37,100
he's Reliant upon God, right?
He's asking a question back to

844
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:38,000
God.
What do you want me to learn

845
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,300
here?
And then he's getting answers

846
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,400
and then as he's getting answers
about what he's supposed to

847
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,800
learn, he's also getting answers
on how to plan and how to make

848
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,700
adjustments to get things in a
better state.

849
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,600
So sometimes those trials are
super beneficial to us, they

850
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:03,800
melt away all that draws, right?
They they were fine us.

851
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,000
They make us better and I think
and this is where I would agree.

852
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:11,600
Would agree with you.
You, is that sometimes?

853
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,500
It's a matter of how we're going
to approach this certain trial.

854
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:20,300
Right, because let's face it.
I've made this analogy before.

855
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:25,500
I think in a talk, I love the
Rocky movies, right?

856
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:29,700
I mean, I dig those movies have
done dignan II, loved him when I

857
00:48:29,707 --> 00:48:32,500
was a little kid.
But as I got to thinking about

858
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:36,100
it, as, as, as an adult, I was
like, why did I dig those

859
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:37,200
movies?
So much.

860
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,500
It was because of the adversity
that he had to overcome to

861
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:47,000
become Victorious, right?
If if we didn't have challenges

862
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:53,900
in adversities, that we would
embrace. and, Work to overcome.

863
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,900
We have boring stories to tell?
Oh no.

864
00:48:56,900 --> 00:48:59,000
All right.
We'd be like yeah.

865
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,500
I mean, I woke up this morning
and everything was great.

866
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:04,400
There were flowers under my feet
and there was rainbows and

867
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,500
Sunshine and Lollipops that's
boring.

868
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:17,400
If they had everything given to
them, if they had everything

869
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,600
that they had all their problems
were solved.

870
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,200
There was no adversity
whatsoever.

871
00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:24,400
They smash it all down.
So you have something exciting

872
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,200
in their life because it'd be so
freaking bull pretty much that

873
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,000
they deserve.
Yeah, yeah.

874
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,300
It would just be horribly
boring, right?

875
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,300
And so going back to that Rocky
analogy, man.

876
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:39,100
That was what made those shows.
Great.

877
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:43,000
He's facing a dude, way bigger
than him and he's coming out.

878
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,200
I think there's something in us
that love to see either us or

879
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,300
other people.
Get past things, right?

880
00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:52,900
I think that's why we all
instinctively root for the

881
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:58,100
underdog because it's that
overcoming that adversity that

882
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:01,500
just fires people up whether
that spiritually or physically

883
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:03,800
or whatever.
But yeah.

884
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:06,800
And if this book is a tool that
helps people get there.

885
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,600
That's awesome that you got it
out to them.

886
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,200
So where can they find the book?
Derek and turn that Amazon has

887
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,300
heart back.
Favorite back in.

888
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:17,800
Hey Andy and Andy book form.
Okay.

889
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,400
And what's the name of Book
again.

890
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,700
Energy unveil, perfect.
Anything else you want to cover

891
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:28,100
before we shut her down?
I want to say one thing.

892
00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:32,900
It's as you were just talking to
me right?

893
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:34,600
For might it be about the
principles of his book.

894
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,000
It's the act of overcoming of
overcoming of overcoming until

895
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,400
you become someone new.
Hmm.

896
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:44,200
That's the ACT.
That's the process.

897
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:47,000
You're overcoming who you used
to be to spiritually, become

898
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,400
someone new to and to change
your life.

899
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:52,300
Dude, I can totally feel behind
that.

900
00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:56,400
I mean, look, when I when I
accepted the gospel, the first

901
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,200
time when I became LDS that dude
was radically different, right.

902
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,900
I look back on that guy and I'm
like he had like a degree in

903
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:09,200
Dirtbag, hurry.
I mean he was you know, so that

904
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,300
that guy had to go away.
Oh my God.

905
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,500
And so when I, you know,
embraced fundamentalism It was

906
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,100
again, not as drastic of a
change, but it was still a

907
00:51:26,107 --> 00:51:28,900
change.
And I think we, I think we

908
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:31,700
always have to let that old
person die, right?

909
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:35,400
We have exactly willing to, to
let the old person be buried in

910
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,500
move forward.
When I was 16, I was telling

911
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:42,700
before the very beginning, I was
actually will make comments.

912
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:45,800
I was so emotionless.
I was so analytical, and so just

913
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,500
like void of any real emotion,
that people would actually make

914
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:50,700
comments.
They were Scared.

915
00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:54,100
Because they, they, I was walk
around stores, just staring

916
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:56,900
blankly and everything, and it
wasn't because I was angry,

917
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,500
right?
Didn't care.

918
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:04,600
I had a very nice, you can see a
cold, analytical mindset, kind

919
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,000
of know.
My mom, actually, she's Tommy's

920
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,700
like, Derek, stop and identify
people.

921
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,200
And I'm like, what?
Why?

922
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,000
She's like you're scaring people
like, why am I scaring him?

923
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,100
I'm just looking around, but
then that's what those important

924
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:18,900
overcoming process that happened
for me.

925
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:23,300
And when I When I turn 16 is the
spirit, brought me a lie, it

926
00:52:23,308 --> 00:52:25,800
gave me a life inside.
A give me a reason to smile.

927
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:29,400
You just saw purpose and joy,
and I overcame, he helped me

928
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,800
overcome, what used to be,
right?

929
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:35,300
Awesome.
Well dude, when you get the next

930
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:37,200
book kicked out.
Give me a call.

931
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,200
We'll do this again.
It sounds good to me.

932
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,800
Awesome.
All right.

933
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,800
Bye everybody.
God bless you.

934
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:59,600
All
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935
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,300
Renegade podcast.