Episode #139: Liberty In Danger W/Phil Westerlund

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A few years ago now, I started
to see a disturbing trend where

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some of our youth were being
taught, and I'm looking your

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way, BYU, this idea that
consecration is just communism

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with a religious angle.
To address this, today I have

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Phil Westerland on the podcast.
Now, Phil has LED quite a life

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from his time as a helicopter
pilot in Vietnam to his

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continued career as a helicopter
pilot in the private sector.

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Phil, somewhere in the middle of
all of that, had time to write a

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book entitled Liberty and
Danger.

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We Must Not Sleep.
Bill and I have a conversation

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about the book, which breaks
down the 10 points from the

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Communist Manifesto, then
compares those to the scriptures

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and what early LDS Church
leaders had to say on the topic.

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And spoiler alert, yeah, they're
not really fans of the idea.

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The.
You're listening to the Mormon

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Renegade podcast.
Bill, what's going on?

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Oh, we're just here talking to
you, going to talk about the

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Constitution, I think, and
things help surrounding that.

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Yeah, no dude, I'm super excited
and thanks for opening up your

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home and let me let me come in
and commandeer your table for a

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couple hours.
This is awesome.

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Real quick.
I mean, you were here in

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Missouri when I got here.
How long have you lived out here

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now?
Oh, 24 years. 24 years, yeah.

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Oh, so you've seen it grow.
Yeah.

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And then some.
Yeah.

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Wow, so real quick I always like
to ask this question.

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Were you born a fundamentalist?
No.

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No.
No, my I joined the church when

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I was like 18 or so.
I have a background in Mormonism

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in that my great grandmother,
great great grandmother.

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So a couple of greats back
there.

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Anyway, came across with the
wagon trains.

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Gotcha.
And then my great grandmother

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was a Mormon, but she married a
guy from the organized church

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and my grandmother joined the
Christian Scientists.

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A Christian Scientist?
Yeah.

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So then.
My uncle joined the church and

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his influence and a friend of
mine I joined the church.

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Gotcha.
And then I started studying and

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had to go through the whole, you
know.

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I hate to interrupt here, but
can you talk up just a little

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bit?
OK, I had to go through the

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whole paradigm shift.
Yeah, you know, and cognitive

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dissonance and all that stuff.
And it, it took a lot of study

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and a lot of, you know, I'm
going to go with the truth and

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the health, whatever the rest of
you say.

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That that's hard to do those
days.

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I remember those days, right,
'cause you initially, I think

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all of us that come out of the
church initially tried to make

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it all work, right, Make make
all these old teachings fit with

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what's being taught now.
And we do those, those mental

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gymnastics and we twist and we
and until.

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You can't twist anymore.
Yeah, until you can't twist

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anymore and you realize you
gotta kind of make a decision.

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But not to say that there's some
folks that can't make it work

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for em.
And if those folks can do that,

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more power to em.
But I know I couldn't.

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It was it was tough on me.
So you we're we're gonna talk

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about the Constitution today.
But just so everyone at home

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knows, you actually served right
in the in the military.

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I spent a year and a half in
Vietnam.

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I've had my fire share being
shot at and shooting back right.

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And you were a helicopter pilot.
Wow, wow.

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I'll, I'll bet, I'll bet you
you've you've seen some stuff.

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There were times that I look at
pictures of Vietnam and other

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than like air support to, you
know, give, give the guys on the

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ground some, some, some cover.
I mean, I was like, where would

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you even land one of those in
that jungle?

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Well, that would bullet.
They'd drop they what we call

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Daisy cutters and blow a whole
LZ out.

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A problem with that is that
everything turns to kind of an

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ash grain.
You can't tell one branch from

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another.
So rotor blade strikes are quite

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quite common.
Right.

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So, and you can always find a
place.

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I mean, Casey, we do stupid
stuff like shoot up a bunch of

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pigs and go down and pick them
up in the middle of nowhere.

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You gotta get, you gotta have
some bacon, I mean.

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Gotta have it, bacon.
Right.

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Well, what?
So you wrote this book on the

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Constitution.
Now this this sounds like it's

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been in the works for a while,
right?

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I.
Wrote it probably 30 years ago

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and it's primarily because my
family was having trouble.

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How do you believe like this?
So I wrote the whole thing about

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the Communist Manifesto and how
it works and why we should avoid

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it, and I tried to put it down
the church lines.

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I was a good solid church member
at the time and so I tried to,

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you know, find all the quotes
from church leaders and stuff.

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Interestingly enough, the guy I
got most of my quotes from and

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was able to find stuff told me
the church told him he could not

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put that pamphlet out anymore.
He had about a six or eight page

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pamphlet was just quotes from
the church leadership on

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communism and different things,
subjects like that.

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So he was so the so the guy you
got a ton of quotes from, he's

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actually trying to put out a
pamphlet with church leadership

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quotes and they told him he
couldn't do it right.

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They told told me do that and go
process.

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Your membership?
What year was this?

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Oh, so it's about 30 two years
ago.

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So, so the 90s.
Yeah.

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Wow.
Wow.

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And so you wrote the book
essentially because your family

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was like, how Can you believe
what you believe about the

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Constitution?
Yeah, how come you, how come you

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not, you know, just follow along
with everybody And and I, we had

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a study group and I wrote for
the study group.

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So I sold a few copies of the
book to the study group and you

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know, not that I made any money,
but.

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Right.
You know it.

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It's funny, I remember, I
remember when I figured out that

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the schools weren't doing a good
job of teaching, teaching

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history.
I remember I'd sat down with my

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oldest boy.
We were just sitting down for

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dinner and I was literally like
mid bite and we were talking

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about what he was learning in
history.

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Now I'm a guy that moved back to
the Eastern Shore of Maryland

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just so I could be closer to the
history and study more on this.

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And this is after that, right?
So I'm mid bite and my son goes,

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Dad, did you know the the the
founders were nothing but rich

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white slave owners?
And I just kind of remember

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dropping my fork and I'm like,
what the hell did you just say

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right in this house?
What did you just say?

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And he was like, well, yeah,
that's what my teacher told me,

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right?
And so I had to go.

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You know, we were constantly
deprogramming it.

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But I, I don't think that that
sentiment now is as unusual is

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what we would like it to be,
right?

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I think that's tends to be more
thought now than what it used to

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be.
Well, we get into this whole

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thing on central banking, and I
can explain what's going on, but

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it has to do with control and
who has the money, right?

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And you wonder where some of
these really nutty ideas came

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from.
Well, the Fed can write a check

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for anything or never audit
them.

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So you don't know what, how many
checks they've written unto

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whom.
How easy would it be to Simply

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put money in a, an account
'cause it's just a data entry?

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If you, if you read through the
whole thing I've got on the Fed,

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it's nothing more than a data
entry for them.

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They don't have to work for the
money.

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They just make a data entry and
put put funds over here.

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And then they tell the board of
board on the local college.

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Oh, you want a new football
stadium or you don't want a new

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gymnasium or you want a new
library or whatever it is.

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Oh, here we'll give you some
money.

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But you got to put XY and Z, you
guys on your board.

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So now they have XY and Z.
Oh, I want you and I need to

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hire this professor to teach
critical or political science

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or.
Critical Race theory or.

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Or something like that.
And so you're stuck with that.

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They got the the money and, and
of course they, if you look at

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the universities, they only hire
people think like them.

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You don't get a cross section
anymore of viewpoints.

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And so everyone gets 1
viewpoint.

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And that's the whole thing with
the Communist Manifesto, the

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principle that they control
education, they control money,

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they control everything.
Right.

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Yeah.
So what's the name of the book?

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Well, the book.
Let's see what they call this

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thing.
Liberty Endanger, You must

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sleep.
OK, liberty and danger, you must

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not sleep.
How's the book formatted?

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How's it kind of laid out?
Well here's the thing, I've got

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a forward which is just a one
page.

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The introduction I talked about
the a Republic and some quotes

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of the constitution of the USA
is the word of God.

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I go through Mormon scripture
prove that that's the case.

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If you're a Mormon and you
believe in the Doctrine

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Covenants, then you're going to
believe the constitution is the

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word of God.
I mean, I'd describe Satan's

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plan, a statement on communism
from David O McKay.

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And then I I have a thing called
which plan he's supporting and

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it's simply lays out the 10
commandments, the Bill of

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Rights, the Communist Manifesto
is 10 points in each one of

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them.
And so I thought that was an

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interesting comparison.
And then I go through each of

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the one of the Communist
Manifesto principles and explain

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what's going on, why, what's the
leadership of the church, I have

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to say about it, et cetera.
And then I have some things at

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the end of War Powers Act, no
class nobility in the USA, some

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other odds and ends.
One of the things that in this

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town, nobility, people think of
title ability.

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Oh, you're a knight, you're a
joke, you're an oral, you're

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whatever.
No title nobility is a special

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privilege.
And so when you get special

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privileges, it's nothing more
than title ability, no matter

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what you call it.
The original 13th Amendment to

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the United States dealt with
titles and nobility.

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It actually got enough muster to
pass, but then they just kind of

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shit candid.
I mean, there's a whole section

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in the back here that explains
how that happened and what.

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OK, well, if you don't mind,
let's start with the with the

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part with there where you can
prove that it's that that the

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Constitution is God's word.
I think that would be a a good

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place to start.
And then just look at heart, I'm

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a capitalist, so I want people
to buy your book.

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So I don't want to go through
the whole book and then they

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feel like they don't need it.
But let's hit some of the high

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points as we go through here and
just talk about them a bit.

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OK, one thing I wanted to point
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a novel, but it's a quote novels
written by Ted Williams Green.

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It's a green Angel Tower part
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It says perhaps it's fortunate
that most heroes who die for

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their people cannot come back.
See what the people do with

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their hard fought life and
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Yeah, that's the truth.
You know, and I thought that was

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really interesting.
And so there's a wake up call

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here and it just kind of goes
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And the last thing is signed by
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and David O McKay And that's a
warning to church members is

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what it's called.
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United States is the word of
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And I just here's Joseph Smith.
We say that the God is true, the

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Constitution of the United
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Bible, the Book of Mormon, the
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that Christ is true.
Joseph Smith, doctoral History

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of the Church, March 1839.
So yeah, let's let's look at

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just that quote there.
Joseph himself is putting the

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Constitution in he he's listing
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So he's basically saying that
that that this document is

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heaven inspired.
Yeah, well the doctrine says

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Covenants 101-8097 and to 98.
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established the constitution of
this land by the hands of wise

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men, who I've raised up into
this very purpose, and redeemed

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the land by the shedding of
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Let not that which I have
appointed be polluted by my

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enemies by the consent of those
who call themselves after my

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name.
This is a very sore and grievous

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and extent against me and
against my people and

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consequences.
Those things which I have

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declared which are soon to
befallen nations, and that law

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of the land which is
constitutional, supporting the

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principle of freedom,
maintaining rights and

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privileges, belongs to all
mankind, is justified before me.

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Therefore thy Lord justify you
and your brethren and my Church,

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and deferring that law, which is
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and as pertaining to the law of
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this comes of evil.
Doctor Evans 98.5 through seven,

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and we just keep going on right?
It's all through there.

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Right.
So, and, and this is interesting

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'cause I don't think that
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government that hangs out there
that well, let me rephrase it

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this way.
I don't think there's another

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sect that calls itself Christian
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Constitution as much as Mormon.
Mormonism I.

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Think you're right and I'm going
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from J Reuben Clark.
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The statement of the Lord.
I have established this

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constitution puts in position
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written in the Doctrine
Covenants itself.

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This makes the Constitution the
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Up to us now, J Reuben Clark,
most people wouldn't, couldn't

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tell you who he is anymore.
But he was an attorney.

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He worked for the government and
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the League of Nations.
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When he saw what it was, what
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Nations would be, he went
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preaching for the Constitution
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League of Nations was going to
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And of course, come 1945, we got
the United Nations, which is

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basically saying crap pile.
But but this is this is one of

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the real leaders of the church.
Back in those days, he was.

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I, I I'm familiar with with,
with J Ruben Clark.

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I I'm not a huge fan of some of
his doctrine, but I think in

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other things he was he was spot
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Well, again, I'm, I'm sure he he
was a very highly educated and

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probably followed on with
Talmage, you know, probably

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could good buddies, right.
And people don't realize that

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all the damage that Talmage did.
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They they have.
They they think Jesus the Christ

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is great, but.
That's the book that predefined

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the the Godhead as we knew it as
Mormons, Yeah.

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That that changed the whole
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Talmage was a geologist and
engineer and stuff from back

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East, and he's the one who's
primarily responsible for moving

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the Lectures on Faith out of
Doctrine Covenants.

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OK, people don't realize that,
you know, if you go to the BYU

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library, which is what I did
when my daughter's going BYU and

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went through all the old, old
Doctrine Covenants, first part

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of it was the Lectures on Faith.
That was a doctrine.

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The covenants were the what we
have now is the Doctrine

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Covenants.
Then what people also don't

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realize I sent some of this off
to Cory.

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There were three revelations and
it's not that they're so

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significant, though they they
had some interesting information

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in them that were in the
Doctrine Covenants of five

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European editions and never made
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Really.
Two German, two Swedish, 1

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Danish.
Last one was Swedish in 1928,

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the first one was German and I
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Holy cow.
So I've got copies of this I I

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went.
Full of all that.

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That's awesome.
OK, so so we got Clark saying

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what he said, right?
Which which I agree with him,

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right?
And I never want to be that guy

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that just disagrees with
somebody because of who he is

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necessarily, right.
I want to take each statement at

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its its own value.
And they're seeing an issue

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begin to arise even back then,
right?

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That that that things aren't
right, that something is amiss

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here.
Yeah, and here's just Joseph

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Smith.
I'm the greatest advocate for

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the Constitution of the United
States there is on the earth.

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Joseph Smith Dr., History
Church, March 1839 and.

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If it's good enough for Joseph,
it should be good enough for the

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rest of us.
Exactly.

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Yep, that's exactly it.
OK, let's talk about the

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significance of, just for a
second, of believing that the

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Constitution is is of God,
right, That it was inspired by

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God.
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What are the significance there?
Well, as Abraham Clark or Joe,

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who's basically like Scripture,
this is how you're supposed to

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live and its principles, OK, the
Constitution, and we can get in

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this when we get into the
Communist Manifesto, but

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Constitution protects property
rights.

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Right.
OK, Now very few, they don't

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teach this in history, but if
you look at the founders of

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Plymouth, they had this contract
with them and it was basically a

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socialist contract and they
starved to death.

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Yep.
Now why did that happen?

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Well, you can get the answer if
you go to oh what the heck

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should they?
Thank God I'm blank on my

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brains.
OK, no, it's all right.

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What do you do?
He he wrote the book called

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Making America Scousum.
OK, Cleon Scousum.

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Yeah, he wrote the book Making
America and it explains it in

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there.
But basically what happened when

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you have a socialist system
going, you know, at the end of

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the year or whenever you it's
payday, you're going to get your

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£300 a week per person or
whatever it is.

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Here it's three kegs of beer and
a, a side of beef or whatever it

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might be.
And that's all you're going to

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get.
And so there is no incentive to

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go out and work harder because
it's not going to do you any

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good.
And if you don't, if you do

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produce them, aren't all goes to
committee.

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He decides what they're going to
do with it.

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And so people, everyone was as
hard wired to make our life as

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easy as possible.
And so if you know you're going

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to get so much, you're only,
you're not going to put out full

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effort, you're going to take the
time to, you know, talk to play

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with the kids, play with the
wife, do whatever.

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And I can't say go fishing
because those days go fishing

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was a productive process, you
know, but they wouldn't spend as

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much time in the fields as they
could when they're given your,

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we'll say 40 acres, whatever it
might have been.

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Now whatever comes off at 40
acres is yours.

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OK.
So if I don't work it, I'm going

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to be really hungry.
If I work it moderately, I'll be

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OK.
But if I work it and do all the

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wedding and everything else it
takes and plant the, you know,

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the fish heads and stuff in
there so everything grows, I

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might get a little more than 300
lbs of wheat per year, more on a

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side of beef maybe, you know,
whole side of beef or what whole

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beef.
So now there's an incentive to

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do more.
And so that's the big problem we

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have today.
When you have incentives to sit

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in your butt and not do
anything, nothing is produced.

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If you have 40, some odd percent
of the country taking in money

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that's provided by the others,
they're not producing anything,

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so everyone has less.
Right.

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OK, it's like, you know, all of
us can produce widgets, but if

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you only 60% of us are working,
you only have 60% of the widgets

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that we could have far fewer
widgets to go around.

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The other thing you said and and
I think this is a big

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distinction, especially early on
in in the nation's history and

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and its Constitution.
It is you hit the nail on the

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head.
It it's a document about

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principles.
Now if we look up until this

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time in America where for the
first time ever, they said we're

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gonna put these things down and
this will be the law of the

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land.
That's revolutionary during the

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1700s and, and prior and, and
This is why because up until

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that point, law was not dictated
by principle.

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Law was dictated by a man,
right?

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You get into the divine right of
kings, you get into the

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monarchies, Law is handed down
from the king and then usually

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backed by the church, the state
church.

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And then that was just the way
it was.

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For the first time ever,
somebody had the idea of, well,

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what if we just do principles?
What if we're just governed by

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principles and not men?
And so when we look at the

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Constitution, it's interesting
because this is a document of

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principle.
This is not, it's a government

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of principles.
It's not a government of a man,

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right?
And, or at least that's the way

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it was designed, right?
We may not necessarily be there

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right now, but that's the way it
was designed.

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And quite frankly, I think
that's been the secret to our

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success for as long as it has.
Well, yeah, one one of the

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founders said, and I can't
remember precisely who it was

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this this is not meant for
anyone but a righteous group.

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You have to be a righteous
people for this to work.

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I think part of the reason that
it came the way it was is that

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unlike every other country,
Canada, maybe to some extent,

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but mostly here, you had people
pushing forward in the West,

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people who were out there in
little nowhere, independent as

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hell.
And those, that whole culture

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came back.
You know, we're, we're, we're

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here.
You can't tell us what to do.

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You're not, you're nowhere
around.

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You know, I gotta fight off the
Indians myself.

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I gotta fight off the bears
myself.

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I gotta make my crops grow by
myself, you know?

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Maybe a couple of neighbors to
help.

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Right.
And so you got very independent

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minded people who were going, I
don't want to do this.

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Right.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Go ahead.
What do you got next?

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Oh, here.
Yeah.

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Well, that was just, you know,
Wilford Woodruff, every all

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kinds of church.
David O McKay was a big one.

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I don't want to read all this.
No, Just yeah, if there's one

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that really catches your eye, go
ahead.

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But I mean, yeah, we don't have
to read it all.

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We can just move along as you're
ready.

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So.
OK, well here's David O McKay

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and an instructor next to being
one of worshipping God.

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There's nothing in this world
upon which the Church should be

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more united than in upholding
and defending the Constitution.

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President Benson, unless we as
citizens of this of the nation,

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forsake our sins, political and
otherwise, return to the

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fundamental principles of
Christianity and the

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Constitution of government,
we'll lose our political

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liberties.
Our free institutions will stand

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in jeopardy before God of losing
our exultation.

452
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,040
Yeah.
OK, no, OK.

453
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,840
This is known from David O
McKay.

454
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,600
No greater muted responsibility
to rest upon members of the

455
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,680
Church than to protect the
freedom of our states by the

456
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,920
Constitution of the United
States.

457
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,760
And that's Conference report
181950.

458
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,520
The the the other two are for
President Benson's Conference

459
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:21,120
report 79 and David O McCain
instructor So and they're

460
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:25,040
they're telling you that this is
And if you want one a little

461
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,880
more recent present Spencer W
Kimmel The only way one can keep

462
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,560
our our freedom is to work at
it.

463
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,600
Not some of us, all of us, not
some of the time, but all the

464
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,760
time.
So if you value your citizenship

465
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,680
and you want to keep it yourself
and your children and their

466
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,000
children, give it your faith,
your belief, and give it your

467
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,200
active support.
So I should say this, it seems

468
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:54,000
to be up until about I the late
90s, as far as I can tell, that

469
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,840
the church, even though it had
problems after, you know, the

470
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,200
manifesto and those sorts of
things, the church has always

471
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:07,280
been a stalwart defender of the
Constitution and then. 25.

472
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,000
Years ago and then things have
kind of fallen off the the rails

473
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,560
a little bit.
What do you think that's

474
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:21,880
happened up top that has caused
this to that has caused the

475
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,240
church not to be, well as
overtly supportive as what they

476
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:34,640
used to be?
Well, many years ago I was

477
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,760
talking to a sister in the ward
and her husband was a golf

478
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,640
professional at the Civic, an
opposite girl, but in Pebble

479
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120
Beach.
OK, well, they just told the

480
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,320
Crosby and now they call it the
I don't know what the hell they

481
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,360
call it, but they used to be Bob
Hope and Bing Crosby's big thing

482
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,200
shows my age.
But she said I couldn't stay in

483
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,240
the church if President Benson
became president because his his

484
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,360
views.
And I looked at that and went

485
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:09,640
whoa.
And so I think you'll find as

486
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,080
you go through history of the
church, I mean all the way back

487
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:23,320
to the ancient times, that it's
rare for the church to survive

488
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,720
more than about 40 years until
it disintegrates into something

489
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,000
else.
You know, I mean, it holds the

490
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,080
same name.
You can go to a Ben and I, you

491
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,960
know, and, and King Noah got rid
of the priest, but in his own

492
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:45,080
priest and everybody's, you
know, is the whole whole thing

493
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,880
has changed.
And it didn't take very long for

494
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,120
that to happen.
So I think what happens is as

495
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:57,520
the people fail to believe the
leadership at the Time, Lord

496
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,200
just changes the leadership out
and gets, you know, people who

497
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,920
aren't going to preach to you
anymore, or they just get tired

498
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,560
of saying the same thing and
just shut up unless you go go

499
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,760
down the road.
I'm not sure which it is.

500
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,480
I think it's a combination of
both.

501
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:19,080
Some extent.
You can see that people don't.

502
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,960
I got in trouble in Gospel
Doctrine once 'cause I pointed

503
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,920
out that the Lord will allow you
to send you lines if that's what

504
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,320
you want.
They go, no, that never

505
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,440
happened.
It couldn't happen.

506
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,440
It's all through the Scriptures.
It's pointed out twice in

507
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,240
Chronicles and Kings.
It's pointed out in Isaiah in

508
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,160
several places, on and on.
You don't want to believe the

509
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,280
truth.
I'll send you live.

510
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,240
I'll send the great delusions.
I'll send you.

511
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,560
You don't want to believe it.
You don't want to do what's

512
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,200
right.
OK, here you go.

513
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,880
Right, right.
I, that's exactly right.

514
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,320
I and I don't think it's, I
think it's one of those things

515
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:06,120
where, where the Lord just stops
giving evidence for the truth,

516
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,680
right.
If you're so determined that you

517
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,840
want to believe this lie, then
I'll get out of the way and let

518
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,920
you let you believe this lie.
I think, I think something else

519
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,960
interesting happened and that
was there, there seems to be a

520
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:26,520
time in which within LDS Church
history where there's this idea

521
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,560
of, well, we're gonna go global.
So we have to start changing how

522
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,280
we talk about the Constitution.
And not that that was bad,

523
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,360
right?
Joseph said this church is gonna

524
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,600
fill the world, right?
But that can't happen at the

525
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120
expense of true principles,
right?

526
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,840
And so in, in my estimation is
I've looked at the timing of

527
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,600
things and I've looked at who
has ascended power at certain

528
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:58,760
times.
I think the massive directive

529
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,040
that the church was operating on
is we just want butts and seats,

530
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,440
right?
And so whatever we have to do,

531
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,640
if we have to scale back about
talking about the Constitution,

532
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,400
we can do that.
If we have to scale back on

533
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,800
talking about certain other
principles, we'll do that.

534
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,320
But we got to get butts in
seats.

535
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,600
And you know, I can kind of see
how someone could rationalize in

536
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,960
a way a little bit, right, where
you say, well, if we just get

537
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,200
rid of this, then then there'll
be more people in church and

538
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,120
that'll be good because then we
can talk to them about Christ

539
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,600
and the Lord more.
But it's a slippery slope,

540
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,960
right?
Because once you start

541
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,120
compromising principle, you're
no longer preaching the same

542
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,520
gospel.
Exactly.

543
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,720
And, and I think a lot of this
probably came from some well

544
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,960
meaning people, but the idea
was, was was flawed.

545
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Yeah.
Again, I think it's, it's that,

546
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,120
I think it's partially because
people didn't want to believe

547
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,960
it.
They didn't want to do do do

548
00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:02,680
what it required and it says in
ether one talks about can get

549
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,680
these secret combinations above
you can give me in serious

550
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,400
trouble and that's what I'm kind
of pointing out this whole thing

551
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,640
the comments manifesto.
This is how they've gotten above

552
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,000
us and this is what they've done
to us.

553
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,760
It doesn't matter what you're
talking about the school, which

554
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,920
they say they government owns
all schools, or if you're

555
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,240
talking about property where the
economists say you can't own

556
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,800
property.
If you can't own property,

557
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,360
you're not gonna take care of
it.

558
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360
You're not gonna take care of
it's gonna crash.

559
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,400
And people don't realize how bad
this gets.

560
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,200
But I've done a lot of reading
World War Two and one of the

561
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,480
things I like to point out is
that the German prisoners are

562
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,200
talking about their experiences
when they're after the war and

563
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,200
they're still prisoners of the
Soviet Union.

564
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:59,720
And they went and this gun guy
saying they want to build this

565
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,200
project.
And it was took, you know, we'll

566
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,080
just say 1000 bags of cement.
I'm not sure it was a big

567
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:14,480
project.
And under communism and

568
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,639
socialism and central planning,
you have a big old guy up here

569
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,960
that says, oh, this is how many
bags of cement we're going to,

570
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,520
this is how many shoes we're
going to produce.

571
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,440
And so you're, you know, you're
rated on how many shoes I

572
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,600
produced.
I produced 10,000 shoes.

573
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,920
Doesn't matter if they're crap.
You produce 10,000 shoes you

574
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,800
made.
That's a requirement.

575
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,400
Well, in this case, they're
producing cement.

576
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,440
So what?
However many bags, 1010

577
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,800
thousand, 100,000 doesn't matter
really matter.

578
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:49,199
But he says one of the bags of
cement hit because it's not an

579
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:53,920
open economy where you know, oh,
I, I'm, I'm running a cement

580
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,560
plant and I think the demand is
this.

581
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,280
I'll produce external bags.
So we have extra bags.

582
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,400
No, they just, you're only glad
to produce what they tell you to

583
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,520
produce.
Well, the guy up there at top

584
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,760
has no idea how much cement
really required.

585
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,480
He only knows that my project
needs this well.

586
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,520
So if it's a 5 sack mix with
cement, by the time the the guys

587
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,240
who ran the project filtered off
some bags so they could build

588
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:22,720
their project, their home
projects, 'cause you can't get

589
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:25,840
cement anywhere else.
And so all this stuff was taken

590
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,400
off and sold for cash.
I think it came down there's

591
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,680
like 2 bags mixed or cement for
the project and they built it

592
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:38,160
like that and it fell apart
because there's there's a demand

593
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,120
for the cement.
Right.

594
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,920
But it you can't make meet that
demand because of the

595
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,520
restrictions for government and
so people just steal.

596
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,840
Right, yeah.
And that's that's the other

597
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,840
thing that that we know from
communism is it if it breeds a

598
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,760
form of organized crime.
Oh yeah, that that is is self

599
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,000
existent within that government,
whatever government decides to.

600
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,880
Incorporate that makes it
interesting is that you, you

601
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:09,520
develop a black market that runs
as long as it's helpful to those

602
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,120
in control, right.
And 2nd it's not they just shut

603
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,240
it down.
Right, absolutely no good stuff.

604
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,600
All right, so we've kind of
covered, you know, that it that

605
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,840
that the constitution is God's
plan.

606
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,000
We've we've we've read some some
statements that that really

607
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,160
backed that up from the earliest
guy and Joseph Smith down to to

608
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,440
to Spencer W Kimball.
So we've established that real

609
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,800
well.
Where, where, where does the

610
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,720
book take you take us next?
Well, there's a statement on

611
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:40,760
communism and then there's this.
Which plan are you supporting?

612
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,440
And it's the like, run out the
Bill of Manx, the 10

613
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,000
commandments, the Comics
Manifesto.

614
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,080
So you can kind of compare each
one's 10 points.

615
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,480
You kind of compare them to each
other.

616
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,320
They're not a direct comparison.
One doesn't really tie into the

617
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,560
other, but the the 10 points
gives you something to look at

618
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,400
and why, why things are the way
they are.

619
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,760
So it's I thought that was
interesting.

620
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:08,400
Then we come into one of the
worst parts and one of the

621
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,360
biggest principles of communism.
And that's the principle one

622
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,400
abolition of private property.
OK, And this one's huge to me.

623
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,040
And, and I'll explain why.
As a land surveyor, one of the

624
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,960
first courses I ever took, it
was made abundantly clear that

625
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,400
one of the things that separated
America from Europe and

626
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,160
everywhere else was this idea of
property ownership and property

627
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:38,080
rights.
It's, it's pretty, it's not as

628
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,600
common in Europe to own property
as it is in America, right?

629
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,000
And one of the things that
owning your own property does is

630
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,760
it allows you to build your own
wealth, right?

631
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,880
And, and if, if that's
inhibited, that goes away.

632
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,480
So that's that's important
stuff.

633
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,320
And what people don't realize,
even though it's you're in a

634
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,360
socialist society and I tell you
to take care of these five

635
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,440
acres, that's still not your
property.

636
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,840
And you don't get anything off
of it.

637
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,800
You just get get what they
decide to give you.

638
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,200
OK, so here's doctrine
Covenants.

639
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,960
The first part of the principle
one, we believe that no

640
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,240
government can exist in peace
except such laws are framed and

641
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:20,960
held in violence as will secure
each individual the free

642
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,560
exercise of conscience, the
right and control of property

643
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:30,000
and protection of life.
Dr. Covenants 134 two OK got

644
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,440
here's another good quote.
God is endowed man with

645
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,560
certainly unable rights.
No legislature and no majority,

646
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,520
however great may morally limit
or destroy these.

647
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,280
The function of government is to
protect life limited property

648
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,120
anything more or less than this
is usurpation and oppression.

649
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,120
President Ted editor Ted Benson
Concert Sports 1968 and here's

650
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,040
one one of my favorite ones here
is just that the power to tax

651
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,200
involves the power to destroy
McCulloch versus Maryland, Fort

652
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:08,320
Wheaton, Crandall, Nevada.
So this whole power to tax, they

653
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:16,880
didn't put a limit on it.
And so I can tax you for five

654
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,880
percent, 10%, OK, you go up to
Kansas City and I was like 10

655
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,760
point something percent when I
bought something outside, you

656
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,720
know, down here, it's like six
or seven.

657
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,680
But I remember when sales tax is
2 and 3%.

658
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,480
But there's no limit on what
they can do.

659
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,400
And we'll get into the taxes
here after a while.

660
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,880
And I I follow my daughter and
it gets pretty obnoxious as to

661
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,520
how much they take.
Now let me ask you this here we

662
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,520
just read where the where the
ward says in DNC 134 that one of

663
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:59,160
the principal purposes of
government is to protect

664
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,080
people's property rights.
Right.

665
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,560
That's the Lord.
That's not Joseph Smith.

666
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,400
That's not Brigham Young.
That is the Lord saying, look,

667
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,440
when a government's primary
functions here to protect

668
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,120
property rights under communism,
what happens?

669
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,040
You don't have any property
rights, you don't have any

670
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,240
property.
They take it all right.

671
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,800
And and the fallacy in all this
is it all goes to Central

672
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,080
Committee.
Well, again, we've already seen

673
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,720
what happens.
And when you have that, no one

674
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:31,040
has any responsibility.
And so they followed somebody

675
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,440
down the street once and then
the guy was just throwing trash

676
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,800
before and they said, why do you
do that?

677
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,280
Well, it's not my sidewalk.
Somebody else could pick it up.

678
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,040
That's kind of what happens.
You don't care because, you

679
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:48,840
know, I have this thing.
My responsibility this year is

680
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,600
to take care of this.
Five acres will say, but next

681
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,120
year it may be a different 5
acres.

682
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,080
Any effort I put into this to
make it better?

683
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Right.
Will not not benefit me.

684
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:04,120
So why should I?
Again, we're we're hard wired to

685
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,680
make our life as easy as
possible.

686
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,480
So if it's not going to benefit
you, you're going to do the

687
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,640
absolute minimum.
Whereas if that's your five

688
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,600
acres and your livelihood
depends on that five acres and

689
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,040
you can keep everything off that
five acres or so, whatever,

690
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,600
you're going to bust your butt
to make that more productive.

691
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,480
Right.
I should probably point out that

692
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,520
that this is one of the more,
this always ends up being one of

693
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,760
the more bloodier parts of when,
when, when the communistic

694
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,160
regime takes over because people
don't part with their stuff

695
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,600
willingly most of the time.
And So what tended to happen,

696
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,200
especially in Russia, especially
in China, if you put up a fight

697
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,520
against this, they would they
would execute you to take that

698
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,280
ground, right?
And, and they didn't do it out

699
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:02,760
of the sense of, of they didn't
do it in the guise of, Hey, we

700
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,920
just feel like this would all be
better for everybody.

701
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,040
If, if, if, you know, it was
under committee, it was done

702
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,520
with the precept.
And, and this is the tool that

703
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,720
they got it done with.
And I think it's super important

704
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,200
is they created an us and them
kind of mentality, right?

705
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,960
It's critical theory, which
basically says your, your

706
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:26,560
political dynamic is it has to
exist between an oppressor class

707
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,040
and an oppressed class.
And so they often painted the,

708
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,920
the, the landowner as the
oppressor class.

709
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,080
And they would say things like,
well, you own this land, but all

710
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,560
these people work on this land.
And really this should kind of

711
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,080
belong to them too, because they
put in all the effort.

712
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,080
And then then it was easier to
say, yeah, that guy's your

713
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,600
problem.
We should execute him and take

714
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,880
his ground.
Well, several things come to

715
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:59,160
that.
One is like in Cambodia, they

716
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:02,920
went out to the fields and they,
of course, the farmers objected.

717
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,600
And so they just killed the
farmers and they didn't like the

718
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,520
people being in the cities.
And so I took the people out of

719
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,040
the cities and put them out of
the farms.

720
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:16,680
Well, guy who's, you know, sold
trinkets in a downtown has no

721
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,280
idea how to fork that land.
So production drops to nothing

722
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,680
and they were people in the
streets.

723
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,760
Yeah.
My daughter was just here.

724
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,880
One of my daughter's and with
her husband, he's from Cambodia.

725
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,160
He was there.
He watched his relatives get

726
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,160
came to death in the street.
OK.

727
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,680
They his mother was fairly well
educated and they had a fleet

728
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,080
through the jungle into
Thailand.

729
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:54,800
He came here and done very well.
But this kind of stuff, you

730
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:01,040
know, they, they would put
people who have no knowledge out

731
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,800
there because they just think
people are people.

732
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,880
And so you put somebody who's
never hoed a row of weeds in

733
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,120
their life out there into now
farm.

734
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,920
What are they going to do?
They're going to make a hash of

735
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,480
it.
Right.

736
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,360
Did it stop just with land or
did it go to other things like

737
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,000
automobiles and tractors and.
That sort of thing.

738
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,320
Everything in Russia if you read
Oh what's the There's several

739
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,520
books out there about the
Ukraine you can read any of any

740
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,760
one of.
Them the the force starvation in

741
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,800
Ukraine force.
Starvation and so on and so

742
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,120
forth.
And what they did is they would

743
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,160
say they only start this way.
The big land owners, they're,

744
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,520
you know, they're the enemy, so
we're going to eliminate them.

745
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,400
So they get, they get rid of
them and now you're down to

746
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,480
small land on those guys might
own 1500 acres.

747
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,280
So these guys are really the bad
guys because they, they're

748
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,280
preventing you from doing
whatever.

749
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,040
So they eliminate that.
Then they go down to the guy's

750
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,280
own, they go down to the guy who
owns one acre.

751
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:06,840
He's oppressing you because he
owns land and you don't right.

752
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,520
And so they just kept changing
the parameters and, and killing

753
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,120
these people.
And they they would literally go

754
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,160
in and say we want all the wheat
from here and all the stuff.

755
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,680
And they have ransack houses, do
everything else.

756
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,440
And the people had nothing.
You.

757
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,600
Know.
And they're starving all over

758
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,640
the place.
And the wicked part about it is

759
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,600
the New York Times was saying
how wonderful things were over

760
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,560
there.
And they had this one reporter

761
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,360
who was saying how wonderful
things were and ignoring the

762
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,440
dying bodies in the street and
the Ukrainian places.

763
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,840
Because my theory, OK, they're
tied into it and they're tied

764
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,960
into it by the money from the
Fed, which we can get into

765
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,400
later, but you have to people
go, oh, you know, Lennon got to

766
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,280
Russia.
How did Lennon get to Russia?

767
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,240
Lennon got to Russia in the
middle of World War One when

768
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:08,560
everything was chaos and he had
a train that went straight

769
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,880
across Germany with no stops.
How the hell did that work out?

770
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,760
Some revolutionary without some
serious money behind him.

771
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,520
I thought Lenin was Russian by
birth.

772
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,760
I knew Marx wasn't.
I knew Marx was.

773
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,800
From Germany he was not in, he
was in Europe and had to go.

774
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,120
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, he went to Russia on a

775
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,680
train through Germany, World War
One.

776
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,160
OK, I see what you're saying.
So somehow he makes it through

777
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,880
war-torn Germany without ever a
stop.

778
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,640
Right.
OK, All right.

779
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,640
So, yeah.
So basically under communism,

780
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,760
right, we see that it's the
exact antithesis of what the

781
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,200
Lord is saying, right?
The Lord is saying government

782
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,720
should protect private property
rights.

783
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,760
And then you have communism.
That's the exact opposite that

784
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,720
says no.
This will be owned by the the

785
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,680
the people.
But it's really old, old people,

786
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,240
whoever happens to be in.
Right, OK, All right.

787
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:13,200
So that's .1 that I think we
that that we did really good

788
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,800
there where we could, we could
kind of see what the Lord's plan

789
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,240
was in, I mean, what the Lord's
plan was versus communism.

790
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,840
OK, OK.
And just one last comment here.

791
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,800
This is a colony, Tom Bethel,
and I can be one.

792
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,800
Propaganda has encouraged many
of us to believe that public

793
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,560
property is owned by all,
actually is a property of the

794
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,760
state.
Yes, Yep.

795
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,800
So, so you're going to move on
to Yep.

796
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,080
Let's just move on.
To heavy progressive income tax.

797
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,840
Now here's an interesting thing.
Why would you have a progressive

798
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,760
income tax?
Why do you want to control

799
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:59,160
people, pull people down?
You, you can make the tax laws

800
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,400
as they've done so complex that
no one can understand them.

801
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,560
And remember the tax when they
first started, the income tax

802
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,600
supposed to be one or two
percent by the end, by World War

803
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,720
Two, it's up to 7080% of the
rich.

804
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,440
And then they backed it back
down.

805
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,040
But it's, it's a matter of
control.

806
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,800
Because if you look at the Fed,
they can print all the money

807
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,200
they want.
They don't need to tax you to

808
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,120
get money.
They just print it.

809
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,760
So why do you why do you have
heavy progressive income taxes

810
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,280
control?
Right.

811
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,520
So with with heavy progressive
taxes, let me ask this question.

812
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,120
When Russia came in, it was my
understanding that that there

813
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,560
really wasn't a tax like you and
I would understand it 'cause

814
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:51,240
they just took everything right.
So we're, is there anywhere in

815
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:54,000
the Communist manifesto that
talks about taxation?

816
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,360
Do they?
Is it talked about in terms of a

817
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,360
stepping stone?
Well, it was principle two is a

818
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,080
heavy progressive income tax.
That's that's what it is.

819
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,840
Inside the Communist Manifesto.
Yeah, that's principle 2.

820
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,280
OK, So it's, it's obviously then
like a stepping stone, right?

821
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,240
Yeah.
OK.

822
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,080
What Is there anything the ward
has to say about taxation?

823
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Yeah.
OK, all right, so let's see.

824
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,480
OK, Speaking of King Noah.
And he laid a tax of one fifth

825
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,440
part of all they possessed, the
5th part of their gold, of their

826
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,560
silver, and the 5th part of
their zip and of their copper

827
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,000
and of their brass and their
iron, the 5th part of their

828
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,240
fatlings, and also the 5th part
of all the grain.

829
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,680
Yeah.
And thus they, King Noah and his

830
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,000
priest were supporting their
laziness and idolatry and in

831
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,160
their whoredoms by the taxes
which King Noah put upon his

832
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,360
people.
And thus people later see they

833
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,680
to support iniquity.
Now here there's, they're

834
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,960
complaining that they got 20%
tax.

835
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,480
We would love to have 20% right
now 'cause we're running.

836
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,040
I'll, I'll get further in here.
And we're running way higher

837
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,040
than that.
But what's interesting as you go

838
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:08,240
back to the Scriptures and you
had a righteous Joseph and sold

839
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:10,960
in Egypt, he took over
everything.

840
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:16,520
And because they were starving,
he'd saved up grain before they

841
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,520
the, the famine said he had all
his grain.

842
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:25,240
And he eventually they, they
sold people sold their grain and

843
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:29,960
they sold not their grain, but
they sold their cattle and they

844
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,320
sold them everything.
The funny wound up selling

845
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,400
themselves.
So Joseph in Egypt has, has

846
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,800
bought everything that people
have.

847
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:45,640
And he charged them 20%, one
fifth, compare their increase

848
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,680
every year.
And that was with the taxes, the

849
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,800
religious obligations, that was
everything.

850
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,360
So it was like an old school
flat tax.

851
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,760
Yeah, it was old school flat
tax, but it's only 20%.

852
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:01,240
They got to keep 80% of what
they did.

853
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,440
And that's when he owned
everything.

854
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:11,520
Now here, King Noah, they own
the land, but he's still taking

855
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,000
a fifth.
What verse was that in Mosiah

856
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:15,920
again?
Because there was something

857
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,760
there that jumped out at me.
Mosiah 11/3 and 3:00 and 6:00.

858
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,640
Mosiah 11/3 and six.
All right, give me just a

859
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:25,800
second.
I want to go there because I

860
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,160
want to read that again, because
there's something there that I

861
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,800
think is a principle that we
have to come to an understanding

862
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:40,880
of 11/3 and six and and this is
super important and it's a point

863
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,320
that I'll make with an actual
topic here.

864
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:46,400
All right, I'm just gonna read
this again.

865
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,960
So three says any laid attacks,
one fifth part of all.

866
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,400
They possessed a fifth part of
their gold and their silver, a

867
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,040
fifth part of their Ziff and of
their copper, and of their brass

868
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,280
and their iron, and a fifth part
of their fatlings, and also a

869
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,240
fifth part of their grain, now
down to six.

870
00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:08,040
And yeah, they were thus, and
excuse me, yeah.

871
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,560
And thus they were supported in
their laziness, and in their

872
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,680
idolatry, and in their
whoredoms, by the taxes which

873
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,080
King Noah had put upon his
people.

874
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,120
Thus did the people label labor
exceedingly to support and

875
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,400
equity.
Yes.

876
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:29,400
Now this is important because
when the government takes your

877
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,560
money, you kind of don't have
much of A say after that point

878
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:39,160
exactly on what they do with it.
Now, let me give you let me give

879
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,640
you an example of this that
might be kind of extreme, but I

880
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,560
believe it fits.
I was a weird kid growing up.

881
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,040
I mean, I was the kind of kid
who would party really hard and

882
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,400
then listen to Rush Limbaugh all
in the same day.

883
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:01,600
So I was always kind of on the,
the, the political right side of

884
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,600
the abortion issue, right.
I always said, yeah, that's,

885
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,880
that's a lie.
Well, you probably shouldn't

886
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,760
mess with that.
Then I adopted my twins.

887
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,240
I, I became a, a Mormon and I
adopted my twins who just had

888
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,400
horrible problems when they were
first born because of all the,

889
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,680
the, the things they were
exposed to while in utero.

890
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:26,480
And I saw them fight for life.
And where I thought I was pretty

891
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,800
strong on on being pro-life.
I became 10 times stronger when

892
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,920
I saw them struggle and work
really hard and overcome and

893
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:44,440
become healthy and strong.
I remember when we got when the

894
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,360
leak had happened on the Dobbs
decision where it basically said

895
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,160
abortion was going to be
returned back to the states.

896
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:55,520
I remember I kind of wept in my
truck because I was like, OK,

897
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,160
this will put this will slow it
down some.

898
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:05,000
And I remember that night I got
home and I hit my knees and I

899
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000
was just going to offer a prayer
Thanksgiving.

900
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,080
That's that's what that was
about, right?

901
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,280
And I was like, you know,
thanks, Thank you, father, for

902
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,800
making this possible.
And I got an answer almost

903
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,640
immediately, Bill, And it wasn't
an answer I thought I was going

904
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,320
to get.
The answer was don't thank me.

905
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,880
All I've done is return the
power back to the people and

906
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,600
people can decide for
themselves.

907
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,000
So I started doing some research
into what this decision meant,

908
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,120
the Dobbs decision.
It didn't outlaw abortion.

909
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,800
What it did is it returned the
power back to the States and now

910
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,440
the states get to decide.
So let me let me take verse six

911
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,520
again where it says thus did the
people labor exceedingly to

912
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,840
support inequity when it was
being done through the federal

913
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,400
government and the federal
government was using our tax

914
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,280
dollars for abortion.
We really didn't have a say at

915
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,920
that point right Now, if you
live in one of those States and

916
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:04,440
I I'll, I'll list them off here.
California, Washington, Oregon,

917
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,880
parts of Nevada.
Well, yeah, parts of Nevada, if

918
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,280
you look, even parts of Utah, if
you look over at the east side

919
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,840
of the state, New York, PA, just
go down the eastern seaboard

920
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,600
till you get to about North
Carolina.

921
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,760
Kansas for some strange reason
in the heartland have all

922
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,000
basically doubled down and said
not only are we good with

923
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,480
abortion, but you know, there's
been some talk about, you know

924
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,760
what they call post birth
abortion, right, infanticide.

925
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,120
If you live in those States and
you continue to live there,

926
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:41,960
you're kind of making a choice
now, right, on where your

927
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,800
money's going to go, where those
tax dollars are going to go.

928
00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:49,720
And so if it was me, I get the
hell out of those states 'cause

929
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,920
I have a feeling that that's
where judgment will hit the

930
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,160
hardest when it comes.
But but before that, before that

931
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,240
Dobbs decision, we didn't have a
choice.

932
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,400
Now we have a choice.
And I think this is important in

933
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,160
our elections to realize that.
The guy who you give the nod to

934
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,720
is going to dictate where those
tax dollars are going to go.

935
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:19,520
And that should be taken into
account because look, I get it,

936
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:24,040
right?
I, I'm not a huge fan of Donald

937
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,000
Trump, but I like him a hell of
a lot more than I like Joe Biden

938
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:34,480
right now.
If abortion is murder, Phil, And

939
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,640
that's a human life, which I
believe it is, if you can hold

940
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,520
your nose and vote for Joe Biden
as a Mormon, isn't that a lot

941
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,160
like saying Hitler did some
really great work if it wasn't

942
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,480
for the Holocaust?
It's the same argument.

943
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,320
And, and I think people need to
understand this as they're

944
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,800
looking at things and realizing
that, you know, sometimes it

945
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,000
does come down to one thing, but
this this is stuff that can't

946
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,480
happen without this taxation
right now.

947
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,440
Are you, are you, do you believe
in like no taxes at all?

948
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,640
No, for me personally I would go
to a flat tax.

949
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,280
Right.
For if it were to me I would say

950
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,160
black stat.
I mean, even if you go back to

951
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:31,640
the one Samuel was talking
about, you know, you're gonna

952
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,200
take 10%, like that was a bad
thing.

953
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:40,680
I would, I would limit taxes to
a flat tax, basically a sales

954
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,600
tax of some sort on everything
that's sold.

955
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,320
Doesn't matter what it is, 10%.
So much goes to the Fed, so much

956
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,040
goes to the state, so much goes
to the local, and that's it.

957
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,720
You cannot tax any, anything
else other than imports, exports

958
00:57:54,720 --> 00:58:00,000
and things of that nature.
And the reason I say that now

959
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,520
you've gotten rid of the whole
income tax bullshit, you know,

960
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,880
you don't have to do this
accounting every year, which is

961
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,440
a pain in the butt for
everybody.

962
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,800
I hate doing taxes because we've
got, you know, a couple of

963
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,320
businesses and yadda, yadda,
yadda.

964
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,080
And it's just a pain and a waste
of time.

965
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,880
And it's some ways it's slavery
because you're working for

966
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,960
nothing.
Yeah, no, that's that's exactly

967
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,440
right.
And when I go down to this, you

968
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,160
know, it's having progressive
income tax.

969
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,880
Slavery is illegal in this
Constitution.

970
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,400
So what?
Define slavery?

971
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,080
It's working without reward,
right?

972
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,560
So if I work and pay taxes and
they provide a fire department,

973
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,800
Police Department, judicial
system, military defendants,

974
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,960
yadda yadda yadda, that's fine.
Right that.

975
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,920
But if you're giving the money
away to people who aren't

976
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,880
working, no, I'm not getting any
benefit from that.

977
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:05,760
And I look at it no better than
Tammy Hall in New York where

978
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,000
they're passing out a dollar to
vote for us or or free drinks.

979
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,840
There's no difference.
I'm buying.

980
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,000
I'm going to give you, I
promise, I'll give you an Obama

981
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,440
phone if you vote for me.
There is no difference.

982
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,400
It's just paying, paying, buying
votes.

983
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,880
That's all it is.
Right.

984
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,160
It's nothing, nothing more,
nothing less.

985
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,840
They couch it in all the terms
all these poor people need this

986
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,800
poor people that we've always
had port with this and the

987
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,480
churches and do gooders can take
care of that.

988
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:42,160
And the advantage to doing that
is that if you're a, a do

989
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,600
gooder, you know, or, or a
church member or whoever that's,

990
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,960
that's working in the volunteer
kitchen or whatever, you can say

991
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,840
this guy, this is, you know,
been soaking funds for us for

992
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,440
eons and hasn't done a damn
thing that would cut him off.

993
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,000
He can, you know, because I'm
not going to keep supporting

994
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,080
somebody who doesn't want this
into it and lazy and doesn't

995
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:06,520
want to work.
But the government, you give,

996
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:11,160
give me a job where I've got 20
people on welfare, OK, that I'm

997
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,000
responsible for.
How can I improve my life?

998
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,400
Well, if I cut down the number
of people on welfare.

999
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,840
Might cut your own job.
Might cut my own job but if I

1000
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:27,720
can add people to it, if I had
40 now I've got I can get one

1001
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,240
guy to do the 1st 21 guy the 2nd
20 and I can do the supervisor

1002
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,800
and I can make more money.
I.

1003
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,160
Mean, that's exactly how it
works.

1004
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,680
And you can talk about all the
compassion and BS you want, but

1005
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:45,200
that's basically what's
happening and you can't get away

1006
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,320
from that.
It's human nature to make your

1007
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,960
life better, and so you're not
gonna get these people off of

1008
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,040
welfare because that cuts your
own throat.

1009
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,000
Yep, Yep, I I'm with you.
A flat tax and then maybe a

1010
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,560
sales tax.
But get rid of the income tax.

1011
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,920
And we also need to get rid of
property tax.

1012
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,080
The fact you have to continue to
pay the government for owning

1013
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:11,080
something, you don't really own
it because they always have the

1014
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,840
ability to come and take your
ground.

1015
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,240
If you refuse to pay it, it's
it's not taxation at that point

1016
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,840
that becomes extortion.
Extortion, confiscation,

1017
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,560
California's great for that.
I remember I had and I put it in

1018
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,080
the book.
I had a truck and it it broke

1019
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,920
down.
It was a one time dump truck,

1020
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,400
but I didn't pay the fees on it
one year and so the fees

1021
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,360
doubled.
They couldn't.

1022
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,520
It costs more to register the
damn thing than the truck was

1023
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,000
worth.
And so I let it go for parts to

1024
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,760
somebody.
And that's just theft.

1025
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:52,440
Because this I thought, like my
worker here, Brad says.

1026
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,560
I, you know, I've paid more for
the truck and taxes than I paid

1027
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,920
for the truck originally.
Right.

1028
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,480
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.

1029
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:04,920
OK, good stuff.
What's what's our next principle

1030
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,640
there?
Well, I'm, I'm still going to

1031
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:11,960
this one, OK.
And I have to read the whole

1032
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,040
thing, so I'm just gonna
summarize it.

1033
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:20,040
Basically, I took my daughter
who was making like, I don't

1034
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,000
know, I was 88 or 10 bucks an
hour back then.

1035
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:32,200
We'll work at a fast food
restaurant and she dedicated

1036
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,000
payroll.
She didn't get very much because

1037
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,040
you got to look at it.
So I did a whole thing here on

1038
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:45,640
the payroll.
Basically sum it up, you get, if

1039
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,640
your workers get, we'll pay say
10 bucks an hour.

1040
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:57,720
OK, What happens is you see a,
we'll say a 25% tax to the to

1041
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:03,440
the feds, 5% tax to the state.
So that's 30%.

1042
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,760
Then you pay your 8% or so
social insecurity.

1043
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:18,440
So now you're up to 38% all
right, but you, but your

1044
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:24,600
employer pays the other 8% of
Social Security and then he pays

1045
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,960
all other little taxes and
workman's comp can run anywhere

1046
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:32,040
from over 5 or 10% up to 60% of
your roofer.

1047
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,120
So now, so you're from your
employer's perspective, all

1048
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,200
right, I'm your paycheck says 10
bucks an hour.

1049
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,880
It's costing me 1213 forty
$15.00 an hour.

1050
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,800
And by the time I take that 30%,
you're only getting $7.00 an

1051
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,880
hour.
So you're getting half of what

1052
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,040
it's costing me.
The other half all goes to the

1053
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,200
government.
Yep.

1054
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:03,000
And and I will remember talking
to a guy in this is Salinas, CA

1055
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,160
and he says my worker came to me
and he was all pissed off and he

1056
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,640
said why?
Well, he took all this money out

1057
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,960
of my thing, and he had to
explain to him that the

1058
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,480
government was taking taxes out
of his paycheck.

1059
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,560
Right.
Yep, that's it.

1060
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,120
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.

1061
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,520
And and this is where I think we
need to to talk about the the

1062
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,160
really progressive income tax
too, because to me, that's so

1063
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,480
counterintuitive.
What you're doing is that you're

1064
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,760
actually penalizing somebody for
being successful.

1065
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:34,960
Exactly.
Right.

1066
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,120
The more money you make, the
more they're going to collect.

1067
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,480
Hold you hold you down more and
keep you from catching up to us

1068
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:46,040
who are doing well.
And I I point out that you know

1069
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,880
the average worker is paying
more than 20% than E fights had

1070
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,440
to labor exceedingly.
The average worker is paying 50%

1071
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,320
or more and with the book of war
and the other women, we might

1072
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,680
actually taking 50% considered
it being in slavery.

1073
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:06,600
And here we're running,
depending on who you are, you

1074
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:12,440
can you can be paying 6070%.
Because when I was talking about

1075
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,360
50%, we weren't talking about
sales tax, We weren't talking

1076
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:21,360
about the property tax, we
weren't talking about import or

1077
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,160
export taxes.
We weren't talking about excise

1078
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,040
taxes.
People don't realize buy a box

1079
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,400
of ammo, OK, you're paying tax
on a tax because there's already

1080
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,240
an excise tax on that box of
ammo for 10%.

1081
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,840
And now you're paying.
So let's say it was $11.00 box

1082
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,800
of ammo or $10 box of ammo.
You're not paying 11 because the

1083
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,800
excise tax.
And then you got another.

1084
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,880
If you can't see another 10% on
top, that's another dollar 10.

1085
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,400
So over 20% of that purchase is
taxes.

1086
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,960
Right, absolutely, absolutely.
And then there's an, there's the

1087
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,480
unseen tax, right, which we're
in right now with inflation,

1088
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,960
right?
And you add that on top of that.

1089
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:06,480
And that number is, is since,
since four years ago, it's up

1090
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,560
20% average.
And so you, you add that all up

1091
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,600
and it, it gets pretty spindly,
pretty quick.

1092
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,560
And, and you're right, I don't
know what the current figures

1093
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:20,480
are, but it used to be that this
was just a year or two ago that

1094
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,840
you had to work till like April
before your tax burden was met,

1095
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,080
right?
Like if you were to break it

1096
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,120
down, you gave four months away.
Exactly.

1097
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,560
And the and that's.
Before you started amassing

1098
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,360
anything.
And that's just counting in in

1099
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,680
tax out of your payroll.
That doesn't count everything.

1100
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,080
Else no.
Nope, you're right.

1101
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,760
Here's a special dubbing Kimball
Comp support 63 one who reads

1102
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,280
the Book of Mormon.
We'll see that people are

1103
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,360
attacked from 50% of them to
toll us to slavery, to bondage.

1104
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,480
You see, power, greed,
materialistic centralized

1105
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,000
governments move towards the
inevitable revolution which

1106
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,800
finally impoverished but frees
people to begin again from the

1107
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,120
ashes.
And then Anne Ryan ran from Wake

1108
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,480
up America or America, wake up.
Excuse me, the man who produces

1109
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,720
while who disposes his product
is a slave.

1110
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,400
Right.
Yep, absolutely.

1111
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,880
You know, I didn't like a lot of
her end conclusions, right?

1112
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:15,320
That.
Yeah.

1113
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,720
But, you know, 'cause she, she,
it was pretty much absent of

1114
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,040
God.
And I do believe that there are

1115
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,280
responsibilities that come with
our rights and she wasn't

1116
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,720
necessarily believer in that.
But how we get here.

1117
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:36,000
She was spot on.
Yeah, well, you cannot have a

1118
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,440
freedom or a right or privilege
without a responsibility goes

1119
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,880
with it.
OK, You can't do that.

1120
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,320
And and so all these people say,
oh, you have a they have a right

1121
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,320
to, to housing, they have a
right to medical care, they have

1122
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,680
a right to this.
You cannot do that without

1123
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,520
making somebody else a slave.
As soon as I say that is a

1124
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,960
right, you're entitled that and
you're gonna force somebody else

1125
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:03,040
to provide it, right?
It doesn't matter.

1126
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,840
It's the doctor or whatever.
And here, here's what happens,

1127
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,960
coming down from the trenches,
'cause I spent a lot of years

1128
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:17,399
working in the medical, I was
down in Texas getting an EMT and

1129
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,840
this truck pulls up and guys all
panic.

1130
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,800
Oh, my buddy's really hurting.
They flocked him out and put him

1131
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,439
on it because we haven't had a
chance to assess him yet.

1132
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:32,640
Put him on a Gurney and run him
in and the truck takes off.

1133
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,920
Well, the story behind this is
this guy was a what we refer to

1134
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,120
as freaking flyer.
He's been in there quite a few

1135
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,160
times.
Drug.

1136
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,479
Drug overdose.
Gotcha.

1137
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,399
Stoned out of his mind and I, I
talked the ducks.

1138
01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:49,560
Well, this is, this is probably
his fourth or fifth time in

1139
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,080
here.
It costs probably 20, five,

1140
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,720
$30,000 to process this guy,
right.

1141
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,800
And who picks up the tab?
The taxpayer.

1142
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,479
The taxpayer picks up the tab
and we're picking up a tab for

1143
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,760
somebody.
This is a useless piece of crap,

1144
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,160
right?
I don't mind, You know, the

1145
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,600
first time around, 'cause
everybody makes mistakes, will

1146
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,720
patch this guy up.
But after that, I think they

1147
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,760
ought to put a tattoo in the
back and say the second time in,

1148
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,040
you're being stupid, just throw
you out in the gut and let you

1149
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,080
die.
Because this, if you don't do

1150
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,279
that, he's going to continue to
do the same thing 'cause you're

1151
01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:21,920
just supporting him and his
stupidity.

1152
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,720
You're causing everybody else a
bunch of money.

1153
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,200
And most of those guys are
stealing crap.

1154
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,240
They are.
You know, and so when you you're

1155
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,640
putting this jerk, jerk back out
in the street, he's going to go

1156
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:41,439
steal from somebody else and
he's going to create trouble and

1157
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,399
cost you thousands, thousands if
you put them all together.

1158
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:47,640
There's billions of dollars in
the medical industry if you're

1159
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:52,800
taking care of people.
Another case of this is another

1160
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:58,880
frequent flyer while flying EMS
helicopters and this is not an

1161
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:01,920
all that uncommon.
You haven't got this untick an

1162
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:07,400
individual we're talking about.
Don't say where he's from, but

1163
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,200
he would.
He was a diabetic.

1164
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,840
So you know the system fixed him
up, puts him on welfare, says

1165
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:21,720
here's what you have to do.
And he wouldn't, right?

1166
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,400
He wouldn't eat right.
Anything else.

1167
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,680
All of a sudden we get a call,
so we fly over there, we pick

1168
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:31,960
his sorry ass up, we drag him
down to nearest hospital, they

1169
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,200
patch him back up, set him up,
repeat.

1170
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:39,920
Few months later and a
helicopter ride is multi $1000.

1171
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,600
It's not cheap and a lot of it
is because we only, we only

1172
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,880
collect about 60% of what we
built, maybe 65%.

1173
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,800
The rest is just, you know, and
then if you fly the guy and he's

1174
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,240
on welfare, get enough money out
of that, buy the fuel.

1175
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,040
But if you pay the crew that
doesn't pay maintenance on the

1176
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,080
aircraft or anything else, you
just get enough money to buy the

1177
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,520
fuel.
And so people complain that why

1178
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,480
it's so damn expensive to get a
helicopter ride.

1179
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,880
Well, yeah, because we're giving
third of it away, and then

1180
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,320
you're adding all these other
obligations and stuff on to it.

1181
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,320
So yeah, it gets expensive.
Right.

1182
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,000
Yep, that's your tax dollars at
work.

1183
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,640
Exactly.
It's just, you know, we'll get

1184
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,280
into it farming this bunch of
stuff on that.

1185
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,320
Perfect.
It'll never, never ends.

1186
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,280
OK.
So now we go down to kind of

1187
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,920
what we talked about abolition
of inheritance, OK?

1188
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,040
Meaning what?
Explain it like you couldn't

1189
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,320
pass things down to your kids.
Yeah, it it's, you know, right

1190
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,320
now a lot of places it, it was a
50% inheritance tax.

1191
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:52,960
So I have my grandfather leaves
me about $10,000 the government

1192
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:58,520
grabs slide with it.
OK that's that's that's how

1193
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:04,040
that's how they wanted it to
work OK so here's today we're in

1194
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,600
danger of actually surrounding
our personal and property rights

1195
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,400
and development if it occurs
occurs in full form will be a

1196
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,680
sad tragic for people and
recognize that property rights

1197
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,600
are essential to human liberty.
That's David on The Cave Comms

1198
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:20,720
support 62 And I say here, we
will spend attorney with those

1199
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,920
who will allow us no more
freedom than we're willing to

1200
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,360
allow them.
Right.

1201
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,600
So as soon as you say that, you
know, oh, I'm going to tax you,

1202
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,840
then you're open to be taxed.
And I, I explained that and I

1203
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,440
think in the tax thing, I said,
here's the problem.

1204
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,840
Well, on table saw, the
government decides it needs

1205
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,040
money.
So it says, oh, well, we'll tax

1206
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,800
all table saw owners.
No one objects because maybe

1207
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,760
only 10% of people have a table
saw.

1208
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,040
So they tax the table song and
then the next time we go around

1209
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,720
they say, well, we're gonna tax
bread makers.

1210
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,400
No one complaints cause only
only 10% of people own bread

1211
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,000
makers.
This continues on until

1212
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,080
everybody's being taxed because
you weren't willing to defend

1213
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,720
somebody else's right.
Right.

1214
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:11,520
No, that makes sense.
So, so that that that's what

1215
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,520
this is and this is just a
matter of taking, you know, you

1216
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,120
won't be able to pass stuff on.
So what the big guys have done

1217
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,760
is set everything up in a trust.
And many of us don't have the

1218
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,120
money or the knowledge or the
capability to put everything in

1219
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,440
a trust.
So but, but you know, the

1220
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:31,600
Kennedys and all those people
have everything in a trust.

1221
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,280
They don't get an inheritance
tax.

1222
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:39,600
Yeah, you know, and and we can
look back and all, especially in

1223
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,680
the doctrine and right, we can
start with Abraham, right?

1224
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:47,000
The Lord says that this land is
your inheritance, right?

1225
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,040
And we can look at the Doctrine
and Covenants and the Lord is

1226
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:54,320
talking to the Saints about
getting an inheritance in Zion,

1227
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,000
right?
So this is this idea of

1228
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,760
inheritance is obviously
something that the Lord's a huge

1229
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:04,920
fan of, right?
And again, communism comes along

1230
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,640
to kind of short circuit that
and go in the exact opposite.

1231
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:16,360
Well, in in every case, it's the
prophets up to a point that said

1232
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,960
that communism, the same as
plan, same plans, put you on

1233
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,800
absolute dominion and control.
And it's really easy to do that

1234
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,280
if, if you can't grow your own
vegetables, if you can't own

1235
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,920
your own property, if you can't,
you know, you have to work where

1236
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:34,520
they tell you to work at what
way they tell you to work at See

1237
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:40,080
you and I can go, go and you can
say, Hey, I want to, I'll serve

1238
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,720
your land for an X amount of
money.

1239
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,480
They can accept or reject that.
Right.

1240
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:48,400
The comments tell you you're
gonna go survey this and we're

1241
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,160
not gonna pay you or, you know,
'cause that's just part of your

1242
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,120
thing.
Or you you can't make a

1243
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,880
negotiation with this?
No, no, there's no negotiating

1244
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:58,200
with the government.
They're gonna get what they

1245
01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:58,880
want.
Yeah.

1246
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:05,000
OK, so principle for
confiscation rebels property to

1247
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,080
a communist.
A rebel is anyone who's not a

1248
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,680
communist takings rebels
property destroys the ability to

1249
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,000
resist.
Without property you do not have

1250
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,720
the ability to produce goods or
carry on life with loss of the

1251
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,520
means of production.
Become totally dependent upon

1252
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,720
the state With the AT total
dependency on the state follows

1253
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,440
total control by the state.
Well this seems far fetched.

1254
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:28,160
Just investigate for yourself
how much control the federal

1255
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,720
government exercise over
programs that helps finance.

1256
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,800
As soon as you accept the gift
in quotes of finance from the

1257
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,920
federal government, you become
subject to the rules and lose a

1258
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,640
free agency of your actions and
choices.

1259
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,880
Of this is the federal rules and
guidelines opposed or accepted

1260
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,000
by the exception of the gifts.
Those who are carrying out

1261
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,640
Satan's plan want control or
seek the control through any

1262
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:54,840
means of the disposal capital.
Banking must protect itself in

1263
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,240
every way through combination,
secret and through legislation.

1264
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,360
Debts must be controlled,
collected and loans and

1265
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,520
mortgages foreclosed as soon as
possible.

1266
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,640
When, through a process of law,
the common people lost their

1267
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,720
homes, they'll be more tractable
and more easily governed by a

1268
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,880
strong arm and a law applied by
the Central Powers of wealth

1269
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,760
under control.
Leading financers, international

1270
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,040
bankers, quote, question mark.
People without homes will not

1271
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,920
quarrel with our leaders.
This is well known amongst our

1272
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,200
principal men now engaged in
forming an imperialism of

1273
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:28,960
capital bankers to govern the
world.

1274
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,480
By dividing the people, we can
get them to expend their

1275
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:35,080
energies and fighting over
questions of no importance.

1276
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,440
Well, think of blacks versus
whites, women versus men, et

1277
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:40,680
cetera.
That's not in this quote here.

1278
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,120
But back to it.
No, of no importance to us

1279
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,240
except as teachers of the common
herd.

1280
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,240
Thus, by discreet and secret
action, we can secure for

1281
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,480
ourselves what has been
generally planned and

1282
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:55,680
successfully accomplished.
Bankers manifest for private

1283
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,280
circulation among leader
bankers.

1284
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,880
Bankers only taking Civil
Service Yearbook organizer of

1285
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,640
January 1930 and also from New
American February 1934.

1286
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:14,080
So much of control comes down to
if they can take your means of

1287
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:19,080
production of food, livelihood,
any of those things, right.

1288
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,360
There's a there's a guy that I
love to listen to on podcast.

1289
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,400
He does, He does quite a few.
He's always a guest on somebody

1290
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:32,440
else's, but his name's Tim
Kennedy and he was a SEAL.

1291
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:39,480
And one of the things he had
talked about was Americans

1292
01:17:39,480 --> 01:17:42,160
should kind of be ungovernable,
right?

1293
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:47,040
In the sense of you can't take
their food because they get it

1294
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,480
themselves, right?
They're they're, they, they're

1295
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,720
in charge of their own
protection, those sorts of

1296
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,800
things.
And so when when the people that

1297
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,480
the government doesn't agree
with gets to have their stuff

1298
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:04,720
confiscated, well, they're no
longer really a threat, right?

1299
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,440
And they can control you without
ever really firing a shot.

1300
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,440
Exactly if if if you're
dependent upon them for your

1301
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:15,160
daily bread, you can't complain
'cause as soon as you you

1302
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,960
complain, they'll shut off your
daily bread.

1303
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,440
Doesn't take very long to get go
hungry before you get more

1304
01:18:20,440 --> 01:18:22,920
cooperative.
Right, Yeah.

1305
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,320
And, and I think that that the
confiscation of, of, you know,

1306
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:32,280
who they deemed to be rebels is,
is worrisome, right?

1307
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:39,040
In some ways it it's using the
legal system to to silence

1308
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,800
political dissent.
Oh, exactly what they're doing.

1309
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:47,960
Look at what they're said about
the military, like myself would

1310
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,360
have retired.
Oh, you guys are shouldn't have

1311
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,400
guns.
I mean, that was, you know, you

1312
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,040
shouldn't have this.
You shouldn't have that.

1313
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:59,960
You guys are just rebels and and
who's the real rebel here?

1314
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,800
You know, we're trying to
preserve the Constitution,

1315
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,000
freedom of mankind, that kind of
stuff, and they're trying to

1316
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,680
exert total.
Control.

1317
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:16,360
And so so this is probably my
favorite one.

1318
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,560
And can we get a picture of
this?

1319
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,280
Yeah.
OK, that's good.

1320
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,800
OK, So what is that there, Phil?
I'm gonna show that to the

1321
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,080
screen.
Explain to me.

1322
01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:35,880
May not work.
I may have to just take a

1323
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,120
picture and put it in my.
You can e-mail me that picture

1324
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,640
and I'll put it in there and
I'll make it a slide.

1325
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,440
What?
What is it that that we're

1326
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:47,720
looking at there?
What you're looking at is a $20

1327
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:52,920
gold piece, OK.
That's dated 1861, as I recall,

1328
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:58,080
and that's the number of $20
bills would now take to buy that

1329
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,440
$20 bill.
And that's of several couple

1330
01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:03,000
years ago.
It's now 30 more.

1331
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:08,320
So that was $9120 gold pieces.
Now it's 120 one $20 gold

1332
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,640
pieces.
So the dollar is worth less than

1333
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,880
a penny of what it was back in
1913 when the Federal Reserve

1334
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,120
took over.
You know, I've had a guy on the

1335
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:22,080
podcast before named Kelsey
Williams, who is an economist

1336
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:26,000
essentially, right?
And we've talked about this at

1337
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,480
length.
And it's one of my favorite

1338
01:20:27,480 --> 01:20:33,120
things to talk about because
this, this is more insidious

1339
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:38,120
than just a flat out tax,
because this is a tax that's

1340
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,560
hard to see, right?
And and just like you were

1341
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:46,040
saying, our, our pennies now
our, our dollars are just over

1342
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:51,320
99% worth less than what they
were in 1913.

1343
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,840
You you wanna run through how it
was we got to that point.

1344
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:59,280
OK, now this is a quote from
Lewis T McFadden, chairman of

1345
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,240
the House Bank Committee in
1932.

1346
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:03,960
OK?
He's talking to the House of

1347
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,240
Representatives.
Now you're gonna have to

1348
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,920
understand that Lewis T
McFadden, by about 1934 of 35,

1349
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:14,280
had died mysteriously, OK?
Coincidence.

1350
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:16,080
Coincidence.
I'm sure it's just a

1351
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,520
coincidence, Bill.
Some people think the Federal

1352
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,920
Reserve Banks the United States
government institutions.

1353
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,400
They are not government
institutions.

1354
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,440
They are private credit
monopolies which prey upon the

1355
01:21:26,440 --> 01:21:28,920
people of the US for the benefit
of themselves, their foreign

1356
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,680
customers.
The Federal Reserve Banks are

1357
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,520
the agents of foreign central
banks.

1358
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,440
Henry Ford has said the one aim
of these finances is world

1359
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:40,640
controlled by the creation of
indistinguishable debts.

1360
01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:44,240
The truth of the Federal Reserve
Board is the usurp of the

1361
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,360
government of the United States
by the arrogant credit monopoly

1362
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,280
which operates the Federal
Reserve Board of the Federal

1363
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:55,000
Reserve Banks.
OK, this is by Wright P Wright,

1364
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,960
Pattman, Chairman of the Health
Banking Committees, 1964.

1365
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,440
What we call cash reserves are
simply bookkeeping credits

1366
01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:06,040
entered upon the ledgers of the
Federal Reserve Banks.

1367
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,080
The credits are created by the
Federal Reserve Banks and then

1368
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,680
passed along to the banking
system.

1369
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,760
A dollar represents a $1.00
debit to the Federal Reserve

1370
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,320
System.
The Federal Reserve Banks create

1371
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,880
money out of thin air to buy
government bonds from the United

1372
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,120
States Treasury, lending money
in the circulation of interest

1373
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,440
by bookkeeping entries of of
checkbook credit to the United

1374
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:28,760
States Treasury.
The Treasury writes up an

1375
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,800
interest bearing bond for $1
billion.

1376
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,560
The Federal Reserve gives the
Treasury $1 billion credit for

1377
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,680
the bond and it's created out of
nothing, a $1 billion debt which

1378
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,880
American people obliged to pay
with interest.

1379
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,200
When does the Federal Reserve
System get the money with with

1380
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,600
which to create bank reserves?
Answer.

1381
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,560
It doesn't get the money, it
creates it.

1382
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:48,400
Well, the Federal Reserve writes
a check.

1383
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,520
It is creating money.
The Federal Reserve is a total

1384
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,880
money making machine.
It can give you money or checks.

1385
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,240
OK, now that and that brings up
something here.

1386
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,120
We talked about money and I
think it's here.

1387
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,000
I think I can bring it up on
this.

1388
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,720
Hang on for a minute here.
Two or three.

1389
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:08,880
Come on.
OK, let's go.

1390
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:13,200
Well, you probably like that
one.

1391
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:21,960
That's pretty good.
Let's see if you, OK, that's a

1392
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:28,400
$5 federal $5 silver
certificate, OK, If you go to

1393
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,600
Black's Law Dictionary, which I
have in there, and I can send

1394
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:36,200
you copies of all this with
this, OK, A a note requires 4

1395
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,640
things.
It requires a signature, which

1396
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:43,800
you'll see is there.
It requires a due date, which in

1397
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,360
this case is on demand.
Yep, it's required who it's

1398
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:52,080
payable to and it says to the
bearer size 1 silver dollars.

1399
01:23:52,440 --> 01:23:56,600
OK, that's what it says.
That's a a silver certificate

1400
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:01,720
when it's in my safe someplace.
All right, Federal Reserve note

1401
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,280
it's signed.
Right it is.

1402
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,960
It doesn't say who it's payable
to, doesn't say what it's

1403
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:13,080
payable in, doesn't say when.
So four of the things that make

1404
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,280
a note, a legal note are missing
on a Federal Reserve note.

1405
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,120
So it's really not a note.
Interesting.

1406
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,160
So it's simply.
Bullshit.

1407
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,640
Yeah, yeah.
So here's the thing.

1408
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:32,080
Say yes, they can write a check
for whatever they want.

1409
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,720
Never been audited.
So you don't know how many

1410
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,280
institutions that put money
into.

1411
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,440
You don't know what these
institutions have done with the

1412
01:24:40,440 --> 01:24:43,200
money.
You probably trace a few of

1413
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:49,440
them, but not very many.
So you are a college professor

1414
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,360
or College Board.
You need a new football save.

1415
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,600
You need a new library.
You need a new whatever they

1416
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,000
say, I'll give you that.
But you got to put so and so and

1417
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,920
so and so on the board of
directors.

1418
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,040
And so that's how you get all
these liberal college folks

1419
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,840
because they're doing the
bidding of the people.

1420
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:11,760
Gate bottom of the news library
or a new sports arena or

1421
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:16,280
whatever the hell it was.
And that's how they that's how

1422
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:22,080
they get control.
And they just not not all you

1423
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,520
have is certain people they want
you know, I mean, there are a

1424
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,240
few conservative college
professors.

1425
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,280
I had one guy who's a black guy
who was business guy and he'd

1426
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,560
actually run a business and one
of the best professors I ever

1427
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,560
had.
One of the worst was a guy who

1428
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:43,640
was a, an economics professor
who was an arrogant SOB, and he

1429
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,840
has been A and a college
professor and a student in his

1430
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,920
own life.
Never been out in the world,

1431
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,440
never knew what it was really
like.

1432
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,120
I mean, I'm going diver here
just a little bit, but I

1433
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,160
remember traveling on I-5,
coming over the hill, looking

1434
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:04,920
down in Los Angeles, OK.
And there's a sea of people.

1435
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,280
And if you've driven down I5,
come and plug Sacramento, all

1436
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,880
right, You'll notice that you
might see a house every 10 miles

1437
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,160
if you're in the backside of the
Coast Range mountains where all

1438
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,440
the farming takes place.
All the ranchers are there.

1439
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:21,320
Actually, they don't do much
farming up the hills and

1440
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:25,880
farming's you're driving down
South on I-5 ranching's on your

1441
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:30,880
right and all the farm farming
and fields and prop rotations on

1442
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:35,720
the left.
And all these jackasses down

1443
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,400
there who've never hoed a royal
weeds their life of making

1444
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,920
decisions to the farmer.
And that just does not work out.

1445
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,920
And one of the changes I would
make across the nation if I were

1446
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,800
go king for a day is I would
change it.

1447
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:55,280
And and this comes from being up
and upstate New York the last

1448
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,600
few years.
They hate New York City.

1449
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:02,120
They despise New York City
because New York City has all

1450
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,800
the population.
The thing I would do is say

1451
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:09,880
you're going to have your lower
house based on population and

1452
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,200
you're up and and that
population has to go by even

1453
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,400
counties or you can divide the
county directly in half.

1454
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:21,720
None of this gerrymandering
bullshit that you'd be like, OK,

1455
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,880
and you can have one
representative from every

1456
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,800
county.
So what happens like in

1457
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,040
California?
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1458
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1460
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1461
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1462
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1466
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,680
Click the link in this episode's
show notes today.

1467
01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:06,920
And you're up and and that
population has to go by even

1468
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,200
counties.
Or you can divide the county

1469
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,680
directly in half.
You can notice gerrymandering

1470
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:17,360
bullshit that you'll be like,
OK, and you can have one

1471
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,200
representative from every
county.

1472
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:25,280
So what happens like in
California now if you go to the

1473
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:28,640
Northern California in the
sparsely settled places in the

1474
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,800
Nevada and some of the farming
regions, 'cause there's not that

1475
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,160
many cities, you know, you, the
city and a few of those Fresno,

1476
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:39,400
that kind of stuff.
But basically it's all open land

1477
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,680
and just a few farmers in there.
They don't get any

1478
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,640
representation 'cause they do it
by.

1479
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:54,120
So you might have, you know, 4
Senate districts or four in Los

1480
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:58,600
Angeles in a in a county, and
you might have 4 counties to

1481
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,640
make it was district up in
Northern California.

1482
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:06,960
Well, the difference between the
rural and the downtown is

1483
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:12,680
massive.
First off, a lot of folks, folks

1484
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,760
in the world probably don't
understand much what's going on

1485
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,600
in the city, but it's even worse
going the other direction.

1486
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,800
I've lived in big cities I've
lived in, I lived in DC for a

1487
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,800
while.
I've lived in several big

1488
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:29,280
cities, I've lived in a rural
place, and they have no earthly

1489
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:34,000
clue, none whatsoever.
And so they're making, like I

1490
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:38,200
say, decisions for farmers with
no knowledge whatsoever what

1491
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:43,480
farming is or making decisions
for lumber industry.

1492
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,480
And.
They have no earthly clue what's

1493
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:48,400
going on.
They just think everyone out

1494
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,280
there to cut all the trees down
and blah, blah, blah.

1495
01:29:51,480 --> 01:29:55,680
If they thought about it for 30
seconds, why would the timber

1496
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,400
industry want to cut down all
the trees?

1497
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,920
They don't because it puts them
out of work.

1498
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:06,480
You, you'll, you'll want to take
this thousand acre patch and cut

1499
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:11,760
1020% out of it and take that
thousand acre patch and the one

1500
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,960
time you come back and be
working 10 or 20,000 acres 20

1501
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:16,280
years later, you got some
timber.

1502
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,280
You know, it's oaks is a little
different story 'cause it takes

1503
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,640
longer to grow.
But if you're talking pine, it

1504
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,640
grows pretty quick.
Right.

1505
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:31,000
So, you know, you're, you're
distinctly saying, oh, they want

1506
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,360
to rape everything.
No, they don't.

1507
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,320
They won't stay in business.
They tear everything down.

1508
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:36,800
They're not going to be in
business anymore.

1509
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,960
They're going to be more
conservative of that stuff than

1510
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,200
you're going to be.
Right, right.

1511
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:46,920
Well, and and I think this back
to the Federal Bank, right, the

1512
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:55,160
Fed, I'm not sure that there is
as insidious of a way of getting

1513
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,720
a country to comply than the
Fed.

1514
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,520
Have you ever read a book called
The Monster of Jekyll Island?

1515
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:03,960
Oh yeah, yeah.
I think that that that

1516
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,360
absolutely lays out what the Fed
was.

1517
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,880
I think it's called the.
Creature of Jekyll Island, yes,

1518
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:12,000
excuse me.
And it it absolutely lays it

1519
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,200
out.
And in my opinion, as I look at

1520
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:20,480
things now, I think that we will
have runaway inflation at some

1521
01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:22,880
point, I think.
That's why I run away.

1522
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,000
We just don't realize.
I, I think we're already seeing

1523
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:29,080
the beginnings of it.
I feel like that if, if the, if

1524
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:33,000
inflation is a bear, we just sat
back and emptied the chamber

1525
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:36,240
into the bear and the bear still
coming exactly right.

1526
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,440
I, I don't think there's much
they're going to be able to do

1527
01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:43,240
now to, to keep this in check.
It's going to, I don't know when

1528
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,840
or anything else, but I'm fairly
certain that there's massive

1529
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:51,560
inflation coming our way.
It used to be trying to go

1530
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,000
through the history of money.
I don't do that here very much,

1531
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,400
but but he could listen to him
nibbly.

1532
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,120
He's explaining it.
Who canonary or flux was the

1533
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:03,360
original money?
Yep.

1534
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,760
But it's really difficult to
carry sheep in your pockets in

1535
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,560
the market.
Or divide up sheep.

1536
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:10,960
So you.
You're right.

1537
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:12,920
Yeah, I think.
You usually objects, right?

1538
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:20,440
But gold and silver, and I got
in a discussion with Douglas

1539
01:32:20,440 --> 01:32:22,600
today and he was saying, well, I
don't care, you know.

1540
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:26,280
But the problem is gold is
useful.

1541
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,480
What?
Well, electronic circuits.

1542
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,760
So if you got something that
gold in your hand, it's always

1543
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:37,000
gonna be useful for something.
Now it's gonna be good, good

1544
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,160
medium exchange.
But it's good medium exchange

1545
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,160
because it's useful.
Silver dollar makes so many

1546
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,280
electronic circuits.
People don't realize that gold

1547
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:50,080
is putting the chin bubbles from
some of the windshields of it's

1548
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,040
not helicopters because it has
properties that make that

1549
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,240
better.
And for light refraction and

1550
01:32:55,240 --> 01:33:01,880
stuff, there's tons of silver in
our nuclear submarine where all

1551
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:10,520
this stuff has uses.
So when you go away from that,

1552
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:15,560
now you can print whatever.
And the the problem is these

1553
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:20,520
people and the Fed, they don't
have to work for the money.

1554
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:24,680
They just put another zero on it
or two zeros that are feeling

1555
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:29,880
generous themselves, you know,
and that's all you have to do.

1556
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,360
And then we have to pay it back
through sweat and blood.

1557
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:37,360
Yeah, Yep.
And look, there's never been a

1558
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,480
country in the world that has
printed as much money as we have

1559
01:33:40,480 --> 01:33:41,720
and had it churned out.
Good.

1560
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:43,600
No, right?
And never will.

1561
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,840
And I remember I had a college
professor once who told me the

1562
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,280
laws of economy are a lot like
the laws of physics.

1563
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,120
At some point, they're going to
be obeyed.

1564
01:33:51,480 --> 01:33:53,480
Yes, right.
You can delay it for a while,

1565
01:33:53,480 --> 01:33:55,560
but at some point physics will
take over.

1566
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:57,920
OK, here's here's a couple of
things.

1567
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,600
The Federal Reserve Bank is an
institution owned by the

1568
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,120
stockholder member banks.
The government has not a dollars

1569
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,720
with a stock in it.
And then this one here is really

1570
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:09,960
interesting.
It's something I've talked

1571
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,880
about.
Overnight, the Federal Reserve

1572
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,480
System has raised the call rate
to 20%.

1573
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,800
Unable to meet this rate,
speculate spectators,

1574
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,160
speculators, only affirmative
alternative was to jump out of

1575
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,840
windows.
Its Federal Reserve Board had

1576
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,800
already warmed the stockholders
of the Federal Reserve Banks to

1577
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,760
get out of the market on
February 6th, 1929, but did not

1578
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,400
bother to say anything to the
rest of the people.

1579
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,840
Nobody knew what was going on
except the Wall Street bankers

1580
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,720
were running the show.
Those in the know began the sale

1581
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,920
of all speculative stocks and
put their money in government

1582
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,760
bonds.
Those not Privy to the secret

1583
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,400
information contained to hold
their speculative stocks and

1584
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,680
lost everything they had, as in
previous panics, enabled Wall

1585
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:57,040
Street operators to know to pick
up the blue chip securities for

1586
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:01,080
a fraction of value.
Now what they're talking about

1587
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:05,160
here is the call rate.
So if you have a call rate of

1588
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:11,400
5%, what that means is I have 5%
reserves there's and I can load

1589
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:15,320
the other 95%, right?
OK, So when they raise the call

1590
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:22,320
rate to 20, all right, what
happens is, is now I had 100,000

1591
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:26,240
in the bank, I could loan out
95,000 of it.

1592
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:32,480
Now I have I still have 100,000,
but I've got to keep 20,000

1593
01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:34,080
back.
Now I can't loan as much as I

1594
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,760
did before.
So what happens?

1595
01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:39,360
Well.
Credit starts to seize up.

1596
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:42,200
Credit starts to seize up and
what happens when happens, well,

1597
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:46,120
the wealthy guy who's got money
and just wanted to borrow it

1598
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:51,120
because he didn't want to bother
goes, Oh well, I can't take this

1599
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,160
loan.
So some business deals start

1600
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,160
falling apart.
But now it gets worse because he

1601
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:57,640
said, I'm just going to go ahead
and do mine.

1602
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,920
So he pulls his $20,000 out of
the bank and now the bank

1603
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:06,760
doesn't have that much so long
it's got 20,000 less and it's a

1604
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:12,760
20% call rate that's, you know,
considerably less than it was

1605
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,840
before.
And so now even more loans

1606
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:18,360
collapse and the whole thing
just implodes on itself.

1607
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,560
And then all they did was change
one little thing.

1608
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,200
Well, and now it's even a little
worse than that.

1609
01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:28,160
Do you know what the discount
window is?

1610
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:33,000
Yeah.
In with within the, you know,

1611
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,160
the banking system.
OK, I'm gonna explain what you

1612
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,520
mean because.
Of OK, so the discount window

1613
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:45,160
was this in the old days before
2008 and all the new regulations

1614
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:48,800
that came in off the back of the
last recession, there was

1615
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,440
something called the discount
window.

1616
01:36:50,440 --> 01:36:56,560
So if you were a bank and let's
say you couldn't cover your

1617
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:02,080
deposits for that day, so let's
say you loaned out more than you

1618
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:06,960
took in, you would essentially
go to another bank and borrow

1619
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:08,840
and borrow.
And that was fairly normal

1620
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:10,800
practice, right?
The bank would look and be like

1621
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,400
they're good for it.
You know, if you're Wells Fargo

1622
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,720
and I'm U.S. bank, well, I
you're Wells Fargo, I know

1623
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:19,840
you're good for it, right?
Then after 2008, something

1624
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,400
happened.
And then in about 20-20

1625
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,960
something really bad happened.
So there was always this thing

1626
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:30,440
called the discount window.
Now the discount window was

1627
01:37:30,440 --> 01:37:34,680
payday loans for banks.
It was higher interest with a

1628
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,760
quick turn around.
So this would be something like,

1629
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:41,840
hey, I need a loan.
But this time if I'm, if I'm,

1630
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,760
you know, U.S. banking, you're
Wells Fargo and I go to you and

1631
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,800
I say, hey, I need a loan.
And you go, you know what?

1632
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,600
We all know each other's books
and I don't think you're good

1633
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,960
for it.
The only place I could go was to

1634
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,440
the government discount window.
And what you'd have to do is

1635
01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:59,400
you'd have to go in there and
you'd have to say I need a loan

1636
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,840
to cover these deposits and then
I'll pay you back in the

1637
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,440
morning.
Now, that came with a much

1638
01:38:04,440 --> 01:38:08,320
higher interest rate than if it
was bank to bank.

1639
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:12,440
The other thing before 2008 is
that if you went to the discount

1640
01:38:12,440 --> 01:38:15,480
window, every other bank knew
about it.

1641
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,560
And the reason that was is so
that every other bank can be

1642
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:22,840
like that Dude's in trouble.
We don't want contagion, right?

1643
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:26,920
We don't want a bunch of us
failing, so let's not loan him

1644
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,280
money so when he can't pay it
back, it sinks us.

1645
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,440
After 2008, now there was always
a limit too.

1646
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,840
It was a very small limit bank
for banks, right?

1647
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:42,000
It's huge for a normal person,
but it was small for banks.

1648
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:46,480
After 2008, they basically said,
well, now you can go to the

1649
01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:53,640
discount window and you can
borrow a lot more, like up to 70

1650
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,920
some percent of your total
business value.

1651
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,880
And the other thing is, is now
it's private.

1652
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,840
So now these other banks can't
see what's going on.

1653
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:08,320
In 2020, it got even worse
because they upped it again.

1654
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:13,960
Now, last time I was kind of
taking a look, almost every

1655
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:17,600
single bank was using that
discount window.

1656
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,720
That discount window is managed
by the Fed.

1657
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:29,160
And so it's it's essentially now
it's hooked banks like a dealer

1658
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:34,400
hooks a user on on, on heroin,
right?

1659
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,200
The cash is the new heroin for
these banks.

1660
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,800
And they're just getting hit
after hit.

1661
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:44,040
And the whole time, the Fed
continues to set it up so that

1662
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:48,120
when they can't get their fix,
they will step in and take it

1663
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,760
over.
And So what we're seeing now is,

1664
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:56,400
is a shift right in which before
the Fed would kind of lie to you

1665
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,960
and be like, look, we're just
here trying to prevent major

1666
01:39:59,960 --> 01:40:03,080
economic catastrophes like
depressions and recessions.

1667
01:40:03,440 --> 01:40:07,240
And now it's it's pretty much
they are running the entire

1668
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,040
show.
Yeah, and.

1669
01:40:09,440 --> 01:40:11,520
And through our money.
Well, that's what that's what

1670
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:17,640
happened after the crash of 1929
is, well, many of the banks

1671
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:21,160
because they couldn't take loans
and people were going broke and

1672
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,240
there was their account was
getting farms and all that kind

1673
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,360
of stuff and people couldn't pay
the debts.

1674
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,960
They just started taking over
the banks cause the banks were

1675
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:33,800
going belly up. the Fed just
came in 'cause they didn't

1676
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,000
create money out of thin air and
took them over.

1677
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:41,760
So many, many thousands of small
banks went went.

1678
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:43,960
Under absolutely.
Period.

1679
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,280
And everyone says, oh, how
wonderful of that.

1680
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:51,160
They they're guaranteed with
100,000 or or you know, in case

1681
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,240
they may be raising up, they're
not doing you any favors because

1682
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,560
they're creating that money out
of thin air and they're making

1683
01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,960
you pay it back in blood and
sweat and they're creating just

1684
01:40:59,960 --> 01:41:02,640
another data entry.
Yep, absolutely.

1685
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:10,000
OK, OK, here's one too.
Lightning Over the Treasury by

1686
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:14,120
John L Ellis on page 57 Well,
the California banker was asked

1687
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:19,040
by Andre Norscutt, the author of
We Bankers, how it came to that

1688
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,440
the Secretary of the Treasure
was no longer on the Federal

1689
01:41:21,440 --> 01:41:24,200
Reserve Board, that his apply
was because it kicked him off

1690
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,560
the board.
Then the Norseman asked why the

1691
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,080
President of the United States
is no longer on the board and

1692
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:32,160
his apply was because it kicked
him off the board.

1693
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,360
That's telling, right?
That's telling when you can

1694
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:44,600
literally tell the supposed
leader of the free world, yeah,

1695
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:52,240
you're not on this board.
Yeah, OK, I only have done this.

1696
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:58,240
Page two 10211 Deficit spending
on inflation produces constitute

1697
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,880
a hidden tax against all
Americans, especially those who

1698
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,880
own insurance policies, have
savings accounts or retired or

1699
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,120
on fixed income.
Every time the dollar drops

1700
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,280
another penny in value, it's the
same as the government had

1701
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:13,480
counted up all the money you
had, you and I had in our

1702
01:42:13,480 --> 01:42:17,200
pockets and savings or
investments and then taxes on 1%

1703
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:19,920
on each dollar.
The tax in this case, however,

1704
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:23,760
does not show up in EWT forms.
It's hidden from view in the

1705
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,720
nature of higher and still
higher prices we pay to to buy

1706
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,520
stuff.
Yeah, Yep.

1707
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:33,000
We were talking about that
earlier, about inflation being

1708
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,080
the hidden tax.
OK.

1709
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:40,080
And here's another one too.
You request a definition of the

1710
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,680
dollar as distinguished from a
Federal Reserve note.

1711
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:46,560
Federal Reserve notes are not
dollars.

1712
01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:50,800
These notes are denominated in
dollars, which is the unit of

1713
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,080
account of the United States
money.

1714
01:42:52,440 --> 01:42:56,080
Coinage of acts of 18/17/92
established dollars of basic

1715
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,720
unit of the United States
currency by feeling that the

1716
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,160
money on the account of the
United States shall be expressed

1717
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:01,920
in dollars.
Units.

1718
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:06,760
Times hence counts on hundreds.
Federal Reserve notes may not be

1719
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:10,800
converted to gold or silver.
It's Wes Lemlink, Assistant

1720
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:15,040
Secretary of Council Department
Charger, February 18th, 1977.

1721
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:22,080
So I'm telling you right there,
the Federal Reserve mode is not

1722
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:23,840
dollars.
Right.

1723
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,360
Can you read this one by Mariner
Eccles?

1724
01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:36,600
OK, OK, let me go back here.
OK, so right below it.

1725
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:40,920
Congressman Patton.
Mr. Eccles, how did you get the

1726
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,400
money to buy those two billions
of government securities?

1727
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,560
Mr. Eccles recreated it.
Mr. Pattman?

1728
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,000
Out of what?
Mr. Eccles have the right to

1729
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:51,720
issue credit lenders.
OK, now if I'm not mistaken,

1730
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:57,400
this Mr., this Mariner Eccles
was LDS.

1731
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:07,600
Well, it wouldn't surprise me.
It wasn't George Albert Smith.

1732
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:10,680
It wasn't some right after him.
It was.

1733
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:13,320
Was he a president of the
church?

1734
01:44:13,440 --> 01:44:17,080
President Church.
After Joseph F Smith, yeah.

1735
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:19,440
After Joseph Smith.
It would have been.

1736
01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:23,560
Huber, J Grant.
Huber J Grant He was all excited

1737
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:27,320
about the Federal Reserve moving
into Utah.

1738
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:33,880
OK.
Do you remember the you remember

1739
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:37,480
that that Utah tried really hard
to get a guy named Reed Smoot

1740
01:44:37,480 --> 01:44:43,600
into Congress and got it done?
Yeah, Smoot, that was a 1904 as

1741
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,160
I recall.
Smoot was one of the ones who

1742
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:52,000
was responsible for the Great
Depression, the Smoot Hawley

1743
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:56,840
Act, right?
So if, if we want, if, if we as

1744
01:44:56,840 --> 01:45:01,080
Mormons think that, Oh well, we
would never fall for this.

1745
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:05,800
I would be, I would, I would say
you may want to check your facts

1746
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:09,920
because we, we had, we do have a
history of falling into this

1747
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:13,960
sort of stuff.
Well, we just explained two of

1748
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,920
them right there, you know, and
that's that.

1749
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:25,800
And that's if you go and look up
Dallin Aetoks, you'll find that

1750
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:31,760
he's worked for Warren, Warren
Court.

1751
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:34,680
The Warren Commission.
Yeah, and he worked for not the

1752
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:38,320
Commission, but he, he may have,
I don't know, but he also worked

1753
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,600
for numerous other communist
organizations.

1754
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,560
Really.
Yeah, and you can just look up

1755
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,520
his name and and go down all the
organizations and find it

1756
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:55,720
interesting and and say this is
the guy who when Mark Hoffman,

1757
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,880
those aren't familiar with Mark
Hoffman.

1758
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:04,720
He sold a bunch of fake of
documents to the church, to

1759
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:08,680
Gordon B Inkling specifically,
and then wound up killing

1760
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:13,240
several peoples to kind of
tracks and was arrested and

1761
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:14,680
they're going to put him on
trial.

1762
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:19,000
He was like, we go to trial and
Donny chose one down and he just

1763
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:23,400
suddenly admitted guilt And
imagine how embarrassing a trial

1764
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,840
would have been for the church.
So what was said to Mark Hoffman

1765
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,880
would shut him up?
Right.

1766
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:35,320
OK, Well, how can you say that
it happened?

1767
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,360
He they were going to trial.
They didn't go to trial.

1768
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:40,960
Don H Hooks went down and talked
to him.

1769
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:44,040
The trial stopped after that.
That's fact.

1770
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,240
Speculation on your part is
whatever.

1771
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:47,680
You're right.
Absolutely.

1772
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:49,760
And if you don't like the
conclusions, don't blame me.

1773
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,440
I'm just presenting the facts.
Your conclusions are on you,

1774
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:53,880
right?
Absolutely.

1775
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,760
So let's see what else we've got
here on this.

1776
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:05,680
Yeah, definition of coin.
But I don't know.

1777
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:09,480
Can we go with that?
I mean, OK, let's see.

1778
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:14,320
OK, thought this is a favourable
moment to shut and bar the door

1779
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,720
against paper money.
And this just of the various

1780
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:19,200
experiments which have been
made, were now fresh in the

1781
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:21,760
public mind and excitedly
discussed of all respectable

1782
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,760
parts of America.
By withholding the power from

1783
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,480
the new government, more friends
of influence can be gained to it

1784
01:47:27,480 --> 01:47:30,600
than by almost anything else.
Paper money can in no case be

1785
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,880
necessary give the government
credit, and other resources will

1786
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:39,000
offer the power that may do
harm, but never good else with

1787
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:40,720
the making America Klingon's
gossip.

1788
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,760
It's interesting.
I remember, I think it was a

1789
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:50,760
History Channel and they made a
deal with the Indians for X

1790
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:56,200
number of $1000 and they showed
up with this big chest in the

1791
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:58,960
military, you know, to guard it.
They open the chest that's full

1792
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,760
of paper money.
Indians saw them taking stuff up

1793
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:05,280
their butt and burn it all, told
them to go to hell and take it.

1794
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:08,480
Indians are smarter than most
Americans.

1795
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:13,280
Yeah.
Yeah, just don't pay for money

1796
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:17,800
is never good.
It's the only way it can be good

1797
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,480
is if if you had the notes like
they were in silver

1798
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:24,200
certificates, but and you could
audit the bank.

1799
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:30,040
And in the old days, you know,
centuries and centuries go when

1800
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:36,160
the bankers would issue notes
that were not redeemable, they

1801
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:40,920
got hung right.
Well, well, I have all this

1802
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:45,560
paper and you can't give me gold
and silver fork When old people

1803
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:49,960
smart enough not take this crap,
especially now we know you're

1804
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,600
done, right?
Right.

1805
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:57,040
Absolutely.
And if you'd done, if Roosevelt

1806
01:48:57,040 --> 01:49:03,520
had come clean in 1933 'cause he
promised the people if he would

1807
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:06,720
not get rid of the gold and
silver and the very next year,

1808
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:09,520
within a year, he he did.
So he's an SOB.

1809
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:15,320
If he had just put the banker's
feet to the fire, we'd be a hell

1810
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:19,560
of a lot better off today.
Absolutely, Absolutely.

1811
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:23,320
It would hurt because they
couldn't redeem everything gold

1812
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:24,760
and silver.
Right.

1813
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,120
But at least we would have been
back on a standard with

1814
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:30,600
something that was was tangible.
Something tangible.

1815
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:35,080
And one of the reasons for gold
and silver is a limit sheet.

1816
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,280
You can only produce so much of
it, right?

1817
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:44,400
So yeah, and you might have
some, you know, changes in

1818
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,920
prices and stuff, but it's not
gonna be terrible because it's

1819
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:49,920
it's gonna be locked in the
certain.

1820
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:54,720
Right, it'll create stability.
Yeah, and, and the one of the

1821
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,560
things people don't realize, and
I can bring this out me here, is

1822
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:02,840
that it it's terribly unstable
when you don't have that.

1823
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:07,280
This would allow Joe Sollas to
destroy countries with, you

1824
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,440
know, this inflated currency and
stuff because it's it's no big

1825
01:50:10,440 --> 01:50:12,560
deal to him.
I got my own theories on drugs.

1826
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:15,160
Sollas, by the way, I think he's
just a thought man.

1827
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:22,040
But you got all that money
floating around.

1828
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:26,520
But I'm trying to get like my
thoughts about it again but it

1829
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:27,680
limits.
You.

1830
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:31,680
To what?
What you can and can't do, and

1831
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:36,640
it makes you responsible to that
point, whereas this there's no

1832
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:38,240
sense of response.
Yeah, there's no.

1833
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:43,800
There's no nothing.
And it's that it's that

1834
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:49,400
limitation I was going to talk
about that keeps things in line.

1835
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:53,880
You, you can't inflate.
And if and if you have a this

1836
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,600
whole thing and they can't be
audited, it's complete BS.

1837
01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,080
They should be audited every
year regardless.

1838
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,000
Yep, regardless.
And if you've been, you know,

1839
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,080
inflating the stuff, it's
unauthorized.

1840
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:10,400
Well, hang your ass.
Yep, absolutely.

1841
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:13,680
I mean it, it was the Corning's
Act 1792.

1842
01:51:14,440 --> 01:51:17,560
It was a death sentence to fake
money.

1843
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:22,440
Yeah.
And they did that because once

1844
01:51:22,440 --> 01:51:25,720
you start doing that, the
destruction is unbelievably

1845
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,680
harsh.
And again, that photograph.

1846
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:32,120
Is a is a prime example.
Yeah.

1847
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:37,280
Yep.
You know it takes as of the last

1848
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,160
time I picked which is a week or
two ago.

1849
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:46,880
Makes 131 a hundred and $2120
bills to buy $20 gold piece.

1850
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:51,920
Yep.
Yeah, that's ridiculous.

1851
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,480
Yeah, no, it, it absolutely
destroys wealth, right?

1852
01:51:55,480 --> 01:51:59,080
It destroys personal wealth.
And that's really probably the

1853
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,520
end goal for him anyway.
And.

1854
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:06,600
So, but, and I explained that to
people, I say little thing, OK,

1855
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,440
let's say your grandfather, your
great, great grandfather, go

1856
01:52:11,440 --> 01:52:19,400
back to 1913, be my grandfather.
But now I'm holding dirt now.

1857
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:26,120
So he works and he puts a $20
gold piece in a safe deposit box

1858
01:52:26,440 --> 01:52:30,600
for his great grandchild and he
works a for the other

1859
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,000
grandchild.
He puts a $20 bill in there.

1860
01:52:34,480 --> 01:52:38,480
Right.
Come forward from 1913 to 2000.

1861
01:52:38,480 --> 01:52:46,720
Twenty 23110 years later, that
$20 gold piece is worth over

1862
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:52,680
$120.00 bills, and that $20 bill
is worth whatever someone would

1863
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:54,680
give you in last year because
it's kind of cute.

1864
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:56,560
Right and.
That's it.

1865
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,240
Yep.
So all that, all his labor,

1866
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,880
basically about a month since
labor has been stolen from him.

1867
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:08,320
Right.
Yeah, absolutely couldn't agree

1868
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:11,920
with you more.
Yeah, here's one in the

1869
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:13,920
afternoon.
Mr. Bagby called the collect

1870
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:17,840
county and state taxes.
I burned $320 bills of the city

1871
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:21,320
script pay for money while it
was burning and said so many all

1872
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:27,320
unsound currencies go down.
OK, my clerk in sections not to

1873
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,680
pay any more taxes on the
Hotchkiss purchase.

1874
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:34,200
Joseph S Phil Smith, Junior
History, Church, Volume five,

1875
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:40,040
Chapter 15, page 228, Section 4.
That any person passing a paper

1876
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:42,400
currency, or abiding and
abetting there, or holding the

1877
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:44,880
same, with intent to pass it,
within the bounds of the city

1878
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:49,120
corporation, she'll be liable to
find $1.00 for every dollar thus

1879
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:53,960
offered or passed to recover it
as an action of debt. 1/2 A set

1880
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:55,400
fine to be paid to the
complaint.

1881
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:57,720
Plain that the other half of
said corporation.

1882
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:01,680
Joe Smith, Mayor History Church,
Volume Five, Page Six, Chapter

1883
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:04,880
16, page 297.
So Joseph was against paper

1884
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:05,680
money?
Yeah.

1885
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:10,760
And then let me define something
here.

1886
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,880
This is Black's Law Dictionary,
money changers.

1887
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,600
Money changers, one whose
occupation is exchanging with

1888
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,320
kinds of domination currency.
And the common meaning of the

1889
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:22,520
term pertain those persons who
in early history gauged in the

1890
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:25,320
business of foreign exchange,
and includes the business of a

1891
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:30,000
banker and buying and selling of
uncurrent funds and exchange of

1892
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:34,160
one kind of money for another.
OK Black's Law Dictionary, 6th

1893
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:39,440
edition, page 1005 And again
verily I say unto you, let all

1894
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,880
my servants in the land of
Kirtland remember the Lord their

1895
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:45,400
God and my house also to keep
and preserve it holy, and to

1896
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:48,560
overthrow the mind changers in
my own due time, saith the Lord.

1897
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:52,520
DNC 1/17/16.
Wow.

1898
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:02,120
Well, I that covered that pretty
well, yeah.

1899
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:04,760
Tell you what you're supposed to
do.

1900
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:06,520
Absolutely.
Yeah.

1901
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:13,840
Get rid of the money changers.
OK, Congress manifesto principle

1902
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,480
6 government owns
communications, transportation

1903
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:24,200
systems.
OK, God's endowed memo certainly

1904
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:26,720
on animal rights and no
legislation, no majority,

1905
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,080
however great they morally
limited to destroy these.

1906
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:31,840
The function of government is to
protect life, liberty and

1907
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:33,560
property.
I think more or less this is use

1908
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:36,240
of person usurpation and
oppression.

1909
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:39,600
President Benson Council report
1968.

1910
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:47,320
You probably have noticed those
people have that the major

1911
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:55,080
networks, news organizations,
everything else basically run

1912
01:55:55,080 --> 01:56:01,400
the same story, doesn't change
much.

1913
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:07,360
So in this case, it's not the
government that quote UN quote

1914
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:11,120
owns them, but the Federal
Reserve has all kinds of money.

1915
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:13,960
So they basically through one
corporation another own all of

1916
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:17,440
them and operate them.
So I'm going to give you an

1917
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:25,840
example.
My mother back in I think, well,

1918
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:32,040
it was 1916, late 19591960,
married a fellow named John B

1919
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:39,520
Edwards and I was time 1213,
something like that.

1920
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:47,840
And he was a reporter for ABC
and covered the White House.

1921
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,200
That's why I wanted to put it in
DC and in Virginia.

1922
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:57,600
And so he would travel on the
presidential press plane or with

1923
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:00,440
the president, whichever.
And his best friend was Jack

1924
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,840
Sullivan, Jack Slum.
And I kind of hit it off.

1925
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,600
I mean, I was just a little
slumberless kid, but Jack kind

1926
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:11,960
of liked me for some reason.
The last the last times I was in

1927
01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:16,600
DC was probably in the 80s,
sometime a little few years

1928
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:21,800
before Jack died.
And he had been an imagery

1929
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,360
officer, fought in the
illusions.

1930
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:28,960
He had worked for U.S.
News and World Report to cover

1931
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:32,840
the White House for years.
So and he also wrote for the

1932
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:37,760
Wall Street Journal and he wrote
a couple of books on on war.

1933
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:40,840
He wrote one on Napoleon.
And he was working one on Korea

1934
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:44,160
when he died.
Now you couldn't get much better

1935
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:48,680
credentials than that.
OK, so that's 1980s.

1936
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:53,920
I'm back in EC Jack advised me
out to watch the King's Club.

1937
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:59,680
He said he went to Vietnam.
We were cussing, discussing all

1938
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:03,840
this, he said.
So I came back and I wrote what

1939
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:07,600
I saw.
He said they changed everything

1940
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:09,480
he wrote that probably discussed
it.

1941
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:14,160
And here's a man with some of
the best credentials in the

1942
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:19,000
country he can come up with, and
they changed his report like the

1943
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,440
way he wrote.
Wow.

1944
01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:28,360
He Anyone who wants to go look
up my with his kind of

1945
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,080
stepfather and John B Hendricks
can look up the last of the

1946
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:34,000
Nixon, Kennedy reports.
He's the guy with the big head

1947
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:36,840
and the big Horner and glasses
and the hair slipped back.

1948
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:39,480
Gotcha.
And he saw that Nixon, Kennedy

1949
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:40,600
debates.
Wow.

1950
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:44,240
So I've got a picture in there
of my mother.

1951
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:48,280
And then tonight, from Amy
Eisenhower to lunch, because she

1952
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,960
was, you know, they're bribing
all the press lights.

1953
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:54,040
Right.
But I got a picture of her in

1954
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:56,000
front of the White House.
Wow, that's awesome.

1955
01:58:56,880 --> 01:59:00,920
So that was in the White House
when I was like 1314 were in the

1956
01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:03,400
press area, in the ground.
Right.

1957
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:05,960
So.
Well, very cool.

1958
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:11,640
So with with this here where
they control communication

1959
01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:16,000
transportation systems, this
gets problematic because they

1960
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,440
get to dictate the message.
Exactly.

1961
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:22,000
Right.
And this is where that First

1962
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:26,680
Amendment, those First Amendment
rights become hugely important

1963
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:30,960
'cause here's the thing, the
speech that needs protected,

1964
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:36,880
Phil, is the speech you disagree
with because at some point the

1965
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,920
shoe will be on the other foot
and the speech that you're

1966
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,520
saying will need to be
protected.

1967
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:49,320
And, and so This is why I, I am
willing to take the heat.

1968
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:53,080
I am with the podcast, right
'cause people will call me and

1969
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:56,080
say, gosh, should you be talking
to that guy?

1970
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:58,760
And my question, my answer is
always the same.

1971
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:03,760
The solution to speech you don't
agree with isn't less speech,

1972
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:07,640
it's more speech you want those
guys talking.

1973
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:11,000
The other thing is that if
there's a bad actor out there,

1974
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:15,800
they can't help but tell you
what they want to do, right?

1975
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:18,880
And so the more the time they
have on a microphone, the better

1976
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:23,040
off they're going to be.
And so when when someone comes

1977
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:25,160
along and says, well, do you
agree with that guy?

1978
02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:27,400
No.
Well, then why are you letting

1979
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:31,720
him talk 'cause I wanna know who
he is and I wanna know what he's

1980
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:34,920
about.
And at some point his speech

1981
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:37,800
should totally be protected,
even though I disagree with it

1982
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:40,520
entirely.
As long as he's not making

1983
02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:45,880
threats, I'm OK, right?
You, you know, that, that sort

1984
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:47,960
of thing.
Then we get into something else

1985
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,120
other than that.
Tell me about your bad ideas all

1986
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:52,080
day long, please.
Right.

1987
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:55,960
And, and at some point, I will
need that same protection when

1988
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:57,840
someone doesn't like what I have
to say.

1989
02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:02,360
And so when, when the government
gets involved and starts

1990
02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:08,120
tailoring the message to to what
they see fit, what is most

1991
02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:11,440
politically correct and
expedient, that's when you

1992
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:12,120
should worry.
Oh.

1993
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:13,840
Yeah.
And we haven't been doing that

1994
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:16,440
for a long.
Time and we saw that with COVID

1995
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:22,120
especially right if you dared
speak out that hey maybe this

1996
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:25,320
thing got made in the lab you
were off YouTube, you were off

1997
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:27,680
Facebook you were off all the.
Platforms.

1998
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:31,360
If you thought
hydroxychloroquine would would

1999
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:34,600
secure, you were done.
Right, I remember right.

2000
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:36,800
Whatever, regardless what it
was.

2001
02:01:37,160 --> 02:01:39,160
And that's because they're
pushing an agenda.

2002
02:01:39,480 --> 02:01:44,920
They want this, OK, Just why?
Why the mayor of New York not

2003
02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:48,680
getting execute for murder?
Because he put all those old

2004
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:52,120
folks in their homes together
and many of them died.

2005
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:57,080
The things they did were so
horrible that it's it boggles

2006
02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:58,800
the mind that people put up with
it.

2007
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:02,480
Just like, you know, in New
York, they're shutting down the

2008
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:07,320
Jewish synagogues and stuff, but
letting people run rampant in

2009
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:09,520
the streets with not masks and
stuff.

2010
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:12,000
What's good for the goose is
good for the gander.

2011
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,600
If you're gonna shut this guy
down for his religious belief

2012
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:19,680
'cause he's lack of a religion,
regardless of which religion it

2013
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:24,080
is, then you need to shut these
other people down too.

2014
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,120
Well, I think the better answer
would be like, you don't get to

2015
02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:29,640
shut anybody down, right?
I mean well.

2016
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:34,400
Here, here, I I'm gonna disagree
with you somewhat in that if

2017
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:38,480
you're in the in the streets
rioting, sure, you you need to

2018
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:40,720
be shut down.
There's a difference between a

2019
02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:43,840
protest and a riot.
And here's my thing on on that.

2020
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:47,200
And it's simply this.
You have the right to protest.

2021
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:50,160
You have the right to say
whatever you want to say, OK?

2022
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:53,120
Except you can't call fire in a
crowded theater.

2023
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:55,960
If there's no fire, you know,
you can't put because you're

2024
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:57,720
putting people's lives in dead
danger.

2025
02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:01,920
You cannot block the freeway
because you're blocking somebody

2026
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:04,960
else's right to travel.
Cannot do that.

2027
02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:08,360
You cannot it threaten or
intimidate somebody's customers

2028
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:10,320
coming into the store.
Whether you like the store,

2029
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:11,840
don't like the store, doesn't
matter.

2030
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:17,800
I don't care what they are.
You cannot, you know, block the

2031
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:21,760
entrance, You cannot take over
the entire park.

2032
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:26,480
So it's people can't enjoy it.
You can't make their their

2033
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:29,600
enjoyment of the park because
it's a public place, miserable

2034
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:33,760
because you're there, you know,
having drugs or whatever.

2035
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,480
OK, Can I play devil's advocate
and push back on that?

2036
02:03:36,520 --> 02:03:38,680
Sure.
How would you get around the

2037
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:44,840
Boston Tea Party then?
OK, the Boston Tea Party was a

2038
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:48,400
protest it.
Was it a protest 'cause they

2039
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:50,160
damaged stuff?
Yeah, they did.

2040
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:59,120
They they damaged T and I can
see, see and you know, again it

2041
02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:02,720
is, it is a it is a problem and
and it probably wasn't the best,

2042
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:05,920
best way to solution solution.
But I understand what they did,

2043
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:11,240
and you're damaging the property
of the people who are damaging

2044
02:04:11,240 --> 02:04:14,760
you.
OK, except for the fact that

2045
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:16,440
nobody could buy a key at that
point.

2046
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:20,920
So if somebody want you, you see
where I'm going here we get this

2047
02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:23,600
is a settled line.
This is not as stark a line as

2048
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:29,520
what we wish.
It's, it's difficult because we,

2049
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:32,360
we hold those people in high
regard and they got the British

2050
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:35,160
tea and no one drinking coffee
and yadda, yadda, yadda.

2051
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:43,720
But to me, like Ferguson, that
was complete stupidity, but it

2052
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:45,520
was planned.
I mean, the people who

2053
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:48,200
participated in that also
participated in selling stuff,

2054
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:50,880
went on Baltimore, etcetera,
etcetera, recognized some of the

2055
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:56,280
same people.
And that's where the whole life

2056
02:04:56,280 --> 02:05:03,360
of Black Lives Matter came out,
because Black Lives Matter.

2057
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:07,520
Well, I want, I've got a whole
thing in my computer about how

2058
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:10,680
many black people died after
some of these George Floyd

2059
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:14,720
things and stuff like that.
But because your riots 'cause

2060
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:19,720
this summer of people white and
black to die, you're you burn

2061
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:24,400
down all these black businesses.
Yeah, OK.

2062
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:27,720
Yep, absolutely they did.
And there there's one There's a

2063
02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:32,360
difference, to my mind, between
throwing tea in the Boston party

2064
02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:35,040
and burning somebody's house.
House in the ground.

2065
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:38,320
I would agree with that.
Maybe the guy whose tea got

2066
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:40,200
thrown into a harbor?
Not so much.

2067
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:43,640
No, he's probably upset about.
It right because would that not

2068
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:48,440
impact his livelihood as well?
Yeah, I'm, you know, that was,

2069
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:51,400
and that actually probably
didn't hurt them hardly at all

2070
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:56,640
because that was the British,
what the hell they call it?

2071
02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:59,640
It was a British company at all.
About East India trade East.

2072
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:01,960
India trade, yeah, they owned
almost everything at the time

2073
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:06,000
and so one ship load of tea
probably didn't hurt them.

2074
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:10,440
Here here's here's what I've
said on this on several times.

2075
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:14,560
One, let let's go back to what
we're we're originally saying, I

2076
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:17,280
don't want any religion shut
down, right?

2077
02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:21,240
I feel like if we shut down a
religion, an entire religion,

2078
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:25,600
we're in some trouble because
like it or not, that's what they

2079
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:27,640
did to the Mormons.
Yeah, right.

2080
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:30,800
That's what Missouri did to the
Mormons in the 1800s, just shut

2081
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:32,480
it down.
And we saw how that ended.

2082
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:37,880
However, you have to deal with
facts on the ground as they are

2083
02:06:37,880 --> 02:06:42,320
and say, OK, Islam has a problem
with terrorism, right?

2084
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:45,960
But you can't shut down the
entire religion.

2085
02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:48,840
You now have to go after the bad
actors, right?

2086
02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:52,440
And so my thought is, is on
this, you gotta shut down the

2087
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:54,720
bad actors, right?
Not the religion, the bad

2088
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:55,440
actors.
Well.

2089
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:59,680
And, and I'm gonna say free
speech has a lot to do with

2090
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:02,160
that, right?
And that's what you don't have

2091
02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:06,600
in the Muslim country, exactly.
You cannot say what you want to

2092
02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:08,080
say.
Exactly.

2093
02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:10,840
Being, you know, imprisoned,
executed, whatever.

2094
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:15,760
And so that's.
When you're yes, 100% when the

2095
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:20,280
speech is protected, you can
have reformers without.

2096
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:22,360
Protected speech.
There are no reformers.

2097
02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:25,800
There are no reformers, right?
And so that's why that First

2098
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:28,800
Amendment becomes so huge and
that's why government

2099
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:34,040
interference of that and the
takeover of of the media and

2100
02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:39,040
that sort of thing is so
damaging because now you're able

2101
02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:42,480
to to control the population
through the narrative.

2102
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:48,520
Now we, we then get into some
fairly dicey area today that I'm

2103
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:54,080
guessing that when most of these
quotes were were taken hadn't

2104
02:07:54,080 --> 02:07:57,680
even become a thought yet.
And that is, is Facebook a

2105
02:07:57,680 --> 02:08:03,320
private company or not 'cause if
it's a private company, they can

2106
02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:06,280
at any time decide that's too
spicy.

2107
02:08:06,280 --> 02:08:10,800
You don't get to put that there.
If it's a utility, a public

2108
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:12,920
utility, well, then it's
different.

2109
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:15,880
Then it's the town square.
And that and that's, and that's

2110
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:20,840
where the the Congress to me has
fallen down.

2111
02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:29,400
They have made companies like
Facebook a public utility, but

2112
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:32,520
they haven't disciplined them by
make forcing them to let

2113
02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:35,720
anything go through because you
you have the protections with

2114
02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:39,080
public utility.
So they can't as a public

2115
02:08:39,080 --> 02:08:44,040
utility, they can't be sued, but
they can't stop anybody from

2116
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:49,000
saying anything.
So what happens now is when

2117
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:53,560
they're acting as a publisher,
OK, now they're responsible for

2118
02:08:53,560 --> 02:08:57,680
what goes out.
So theoretically, basically sued

2119
02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:00,960
off the face of the earth
because you shut down people who

2120
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:04,360
are telling the truth about
COVID, but you can't.

2121
02:09:04,480 --> 02:09:06,520
But they can't be sued because
they're a public company.

2122
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:10,040
So they're getting the benefit
of both of these and governments

2123
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:13,880
have not done their job.
And that would be one of the

2124
02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:17,560
things that would change the.
Heart Yep Yep yeah no and and

2125
02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:21,360
we're seeing this play out real
time in Canada, especially with

2126
02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:24,920
you know they're really coming
after podcasters hards up in

2127
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:28,200
Canada now right They're like
there's some guys who shouldn't

2128
02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:33,000
be allowed to have a voice and
that that's gonna get spooky

2129
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:35,600
because then all of a sudden
there's no dissent from the

2130
02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:39,240
public message right The the the
message put put out by the

2131
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:41,560
government.
And because the the government

2132
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:44,640
up there, like in England,
controls pretty much all the

2133
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:47,000
media.
Yep, you can't put stuff on.

2134
02:09:47,240 --> 02:09:52,200
That's exactly right.
Then they want to shut down the

2135
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:56,200
podcasters.
Interestingly enough, You know,

2136
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:59,560
looks an awful lot like Castro.
It does.

2137
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:02,560
Yeah, I've heard.
I've heard about this, yeah.

2138
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:06,320
Yeah.
Yep, absolutely.

2139
02:10:06,400 --> 02:10:11,120
OK.
So let's see the government and

2140
02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:14,560
the the thing with
transportation, just go that

2141
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:17,040
that's what they're doing in
China right now.

2142
02:10:17,080 --> 02:10:22,880
If you don't meet, meet the
public, you know, public

2143
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,040
perceptions or stuff, you can't
go.

2144
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:29,760
You can't travel.
We shut down your ability to go.

2145
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:35,280
Their social credit scores.
So and there and what's

2146
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:39,440
interesting I find and I would
would have some little serious

2147
02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:45,320
and very, I say serious beyond
pleasant talks with Google and

2148
02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:48,880
all these companies who are
helping try to do that.

2149
02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:52,840
Right.
Because even though you may not

2150
02:10:52,840 --> 02:10:56,160
be impacting people here at the
moment, you're getting prepped

2151
02:10:56,160 --> 02:10:58,400
to do that.
And two, you're destroying

2152
02:10:58,400 --> 02:10:59,200
people's lives.
And.

2153
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:03,560
And you're responsible for that,
and you're giving.

2154
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:08,440
OK, here's 11 on the press.
There's no such thing as an

2155
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:12,080
independent press in America.
Not a man among you dares utter

2156
02:11:12,080 --> 02:11:15,360
his honest opinion.
You know beforehand that it

2157
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:18,440
would never appear in print.
It's a duty to New York

2158
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:23,520
journalist to lie, to reveal to
today, to the at the feet, to

2159
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:26,320
Tony at the feet of Mammon, and
to sell his country his race for

2160
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:29,480
his daily bread.
We have tools and the vassals of

2161
02:11:29,480 --> 02:11:30,800
the rich.
Behind the scenes.

2162
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:34,840
We are marionettes.
These men pull the strings.

2163
02:11:34,840 --> 02:11:36,880
We dance.
Our time, our talents, our lives

2164
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:38,440
and our capabilities are all at
the property.

2165
02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:40,840
As men, we're intellectual
prostitutes.

2166
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:44,680
John Slinton, head of New York
Times, American Press, 1954.

2167
02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:50,880
OK, how'd this come about March
1915, JP Morgan interest got

2168
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:55,240
together 12 men high up in the
newspaper world and employ them

2169
02:11:55,240 --> 02:11:59,960
to select those influential
papers in the United States and

2170
02:11:59,960 --> 02:12:02,200
sufficient number of them to
control generally the public

2171
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:05,240
policy and Daily Press the US.
These 12 men worked the problem

2172
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:09,400
out selecting 179 newspapers,
then began the elimination

2173
02:12:09,400 --> 02:12:12,760
process to retain only those
necessary purpose of

2174
02:12:12,760 --> 02:12:14,920
controlling.
He found necessary purchase,

2175
02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:17,840
purchase control 25 of the
greatest papers.

2176
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:21,440
An editor was furnished for each
paper, properly supervised and

2177
02:12:21,440 --> 02:12:22,640
edited.
Information regarding the

2178
02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:25,720
questions of preparedness,
militarism, financial policies,

2179
02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:28,800
and other things of national,
international nature considered

2180
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:30,440
viable interest to the
purchasers.

2181
02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:34,720
Congressman Oscar Cowley,
Congressional Record, February

2182
02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:41,160
9th, 1917 Did this work for the
purchasers?

2183
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:44,640
We're grateful to the Washington
Post, The New York Times, Time

2184
02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:47,000
magazine and other great
publications whose directors

2185
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:49,600
have attended our meeting in
respect of their promises of

2186
02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:52,960
discretion for almost 40 years.
It would have been impossible

2187
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:55,480
for us to develop our plan for
the world if we hadn't been

2188
02:12:55,480 --> 02:12:58,280
subject to the bright light of
public publicity during these

2189
02:12:58,280 --> 02:12:59,920
years.
But the world was now more

2190
02:12:59,920 --> 02:13:01,840
sophisticated and prepared to
March towards the world

2191
02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:04,320
government.
The Super national sovereignty

2192
02:13:04,320 --> 02:13:06,840
of an intellectual light and
world bankers is surely

2193
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:10,080
preferable to national auto
determination practice in past

2194
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:13,040
centuries.
David Rockefeller, Council for

2195
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:16,080
Relations and TCS International
banker, Speaking of the

2196
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:19,760
Berlberger's conference, June
1991 in Germany.

2197
02:13:22,960 --> 02:13:25,480
So I just admit it.
Yeah.

2198
02:13:25,720 --> 02:13:27,800
Yep.
And and see this goes back to

2199
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:32,160
the Federal Reserve, how they
purchase, they did this in 1917,

2200
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:34,000
right?
Four years after they created

2201
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:35,360
the federal.
Reserve Yep, they just took the

2202
02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:36,400
money they.
Just took the they just.

2203
02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:38,440
Made the.
Made the money and bought.

2204
02:13:38,520 --> 02:13:39,720
Bought.
Yep, absolutely.

2205
02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:43,720
But, and that's the danger.
Right, absolutely.

2206
02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:48,680
And and that's why I'm not a fan
of like, you know, PBR, that

2207
02:13:48,680 --> 02:13:51,440
sort of stuff, right?
Oh, Public Broadcasting System.

2208
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:52,880
Yeah, PBS.
Excuse me.

2209
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:56,000
Yeah, absolutely.
That's that's why I'm not a big

2210
02:13:56,000 --> 02:14:01,960
believer in them.
So principle 7, government owns

2211
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:06,560
factories and farms.
I think we kind of reviewed that

2212
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:08,320
one with.
Property.

2213
02:14:08,640 --> 02:14:11,000
Property.
Yeah, I mean that's.

2214
02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:14,040
It controls the means of
production right and and.

2215
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:16,440
And what do you do at that
point?

2216
02:14:16,640 --> 02:14:18,000
Right, you're done.
There's.

2217
02:14:18,080 --> 02:14:20,640
You're done.
You know, it's go back to the

2218
02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:28,040
1930s when they went through all
the farms, started killing off

2219
02:14:28,040 --> 02:14:30,960
animals and stuff because they
want to lower the price of meat.

2220
02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:33,040
Well, that made it harder for
everybody else.

2221
02:14:33,120 --> 02:14:34,640
Absolutely it did.
Yep.

2222
02:14:34,880 --> 02:14:38,840
You know, and you're in the
middle of the Depression, and

2223
02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:41,200
now meat's more expensive.
Right.

2224
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:48,080
Yeah, 100%.
You know so that so Congress

2225
02:14:48,080 --> 02:14:50,640
manifesto Principle 8.
Government controls labor.

2226
02:14:51,440 --> 02:14:53,480
Thou shall eat the labor of thy
hands.

2227
02:14:53,720 --> 02:14:55,880
Happy shall thy be, and it shall
be wealthy.

2228
02:14:55,880 --> 02:15:00,240
Psalms 128 the sweat thy face
shall thou eat bread?

2229
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:05,600
Genesis 319 For even when we
were with you this week, command

2230
02:15:05,600 --> 02:15:08,080
you that if anything it would
not work, neither should we eat,

2231
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:11,960
neither should he and thou
should not be idle, but he is

2232
02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:14,600
idle should not eat the bread or
Norweg the garment should labor.

2233
02:15:14,600 --> 02:15:20,000
Dr. Covens 4242 So let's say
here my ability to use my labor

2234
02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:22,640
to produce goods or to hire out
as I see fit as a God-given

2235
02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:24,840
right that the government has
travelled the name of individual

2236
02:15:24,840 --> 02:15:27,240
rights.
The individual does not have a

2237
02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:29,120
right to be the expense of
others.

2238
02:15:29,120 --> 02:15:31,840
An individual has an equal right
to labor, and from the labor

2239
02:15:31,960 --> 02:15:34,720
comes right to with his wages
and whatever he feels proper.

2240
02:15:35,200 --> 02:15:37,640
He chooses to starve that that
is his business.

2241
02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:40,520
We have no right to deny him
that his choice.

2242
02:15:40,760 --> 02:15:42,960
We have a responsibility to
discourage him, but no right to

2243
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:47,520
deny him.
OK, the government's ability to

2244
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:53,920
control labor is huge, right?
Because one of the things that

2245
02:15:53,920 --> 02:15:58,360
happened in America, as far as I
can tell, and, and this is gonna

2246
02:15:58,360 --> 02:16:01,760
sound kind of bad on the
surface, so let me explain, is

2247
02:16:01,760 --> 02:16:05,560
that for the first time in man's
history, mankind was kind of

2248
02:16:05,560 --> 02:16:10,080
let, let off the chain, right?
You go create whatever it is.

2249
02:16:10,080 --> 02:16:14,640
And whether you succeed or fail,
you get to reap the benefits of

2250
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:19,120
that, right?
And what we saw out of that is a

2251
02:16:19,120 --> 02:16:23,040
machine like we have never
witnessed in human history.

2252
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:29,280
We, you know, Skousen puts it
best, the 1st 5000 years of

2253
02:16:29,280 --> 02:16:32,040
man's existence.
How's man getting from point A

2254
02:16:32,040 --> 02:16:34,360
to point B?
You really got two options.

2255
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:39,120
Feed feeder.
A hoof, yes, a feeder, a hoof.

2256
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:43,120
That's it.
Now America comes along and just

2257
02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:49,360
about 100 years later, just
under actually, we're connecting

2258
02:16:49,360 --> 02:16:54,440
the continent with railroads.
Literally less than 100 years

2259
02:16:54,440 --> 02:16:57,400
after that, or just add 100
years.

2260
02:16:57,680 --> 02:17:01,080
We land a dude on the moon right
now.

2261
02:17:01,080 --> 02:17:05,240
What happens in that short 200
year span of time?

2262
02:17:05,360 --> 02:17:09,840
Well, mankind finally gets to be
able to reap the benefits of his

2263
02:17:09,840 --> 02:17:14,080
own labor, right?
And now mankind has a new

2264
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:21,240
incentive to to, to to create
right and not.

2265
02:17:21,240 --> 02:17:23,600
And it's just not that, right?
Get the rewards of your

2266
02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:27,120
creation.
Yes, and and not just scientific

2267
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:29,959
advancements, right.
The standard of living we know

2268
02:17:29,959 --> 02:17:35,000
now is unfathomable to the bulk
of people.

2269
02:17:35,000 --> 02:17:39,360
The entirety, Yeah, the entirety
of human history, right?

2270
02:17:39,559 --> 02:17:46,840
We live better now than most all
monarchs did you know 2-3

2271
02:17:46,840 --> 02:17:50,400
hundred years ago?
I mean, I, I, I can go here in

2272
02:17:50,400 --> 02:17:53,120
the middle of Missouri and I can
get fish from the from the

2273
02:17:53,160 --> 02:17:55,920
Atlantic anytime I want.
Yep.

2274
02:17:56,400 --> 02:17:59,080
You know, and they couldn't
dream of that in those days.

2275
02:18:01,440 --> 02:18:03,879
Yeah, it.
It, and this all comes from

2276
02:18:03,879 --> 02:18:07,719
mankind being able to reap the
benefits of his hard work.

2277
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:12,879
The other thing there's there's
this idea that there's only this

2278
02:18:12,879 --> 02:18:15,240
much pie, right?
And so well.

2279
02:18:15,320 --> 02:18:18,840
That's BS.
But that's BS because this

2280
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:22,200
system taught everybody, oh, you
can create wealth.

2281
02:18:22,400 --> 02:18:24,600
You can create more pie.
Right and.

2282
02:18:24,719 --> 02:18:26,719
That's that's the problem with
the socialists.

2283
02:18:26,719 --> 02:18:29,040
They say that just this much
pious are gonna divide it up,

2284
02:18:30,320 --> 02:18:32,879
the capitalists say.
We'll just make more.

2285
02:18:33,040 --> 02:18:34,799
More, more, more, more pie,
right?

2286
02:18:34,920 --> 02:18:38,400
Yeah.
And you talk about advances.

2287
02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:42,320
Here's what my favorite Laura
Ingalls Wilder.

2288
02:18:42,400 --> 02:18:46,080
Right.
Came across the end of Missouri

2289
02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:49,920
on a covered wagon.
Her last trip cross country was

2290
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:53,400
a seven O 7.
Yep, think of the difference.

2291
02:18:53,840 --> 02:18:56,840
Yep, Yep.
Or, or just the phone that you

2292
02:18:56,840 --> 02:19:00,000
carry around your pocket has
more computing power than the

2293
02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:02,200
first computer that landed a man
on the moon.

2294
02:19:02,360 --> 02:19:04,840
Well, I just think, well I
remember being in my kitchen

2295
02:19:04,840 --> 02:19:09,840
when I was 10/11 and it is a big
thing to have a phone with long

2296
02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:11,360
cords.
You could walk around and do

2297
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:15,000
stuff.
And now we got cell phones,

2298
02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:17,080
right?
That are computer computers that

2299
02:19:17,080 --> 02:19:19,520
are, like I say, better than
what they land on the moon with.

2300
02:19:19,879 --> 02:19:25,280
To me, the, the controlling of
man's labor is as important as

2301
02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:27,719
any of these other principles
we've just talked about, because

2302
02:19:27,719 --> 02:19:29,680
without it, we just stop
innovating.

2303
02:19:29,680 --> 02:19:33,760
And then once we stop, we, you
know, I'm, I look at the times

2304
02:19:33,760 --> 02:19:38,240
we live in now, Phil, and I'm
like, if we cannot just screw

2305
02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:42,280
ourselves up for maybe another
10 years, I have no doubts we're

2306
02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:47,920
going to cure cancer, right?
But this, we keep screwing

2307
02:19:47,920 --> 02:19:52,120
ourselves over and I'm like,
we're gonna take this golden age

2308
02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:54,080
and we're gonna flush it right
down the toilet.

2309
02:19:54,080 --> 02:19:57,240
Well, here's the thing.
You got organizations like the

2310
02:19:57,240 --> 02:20:01,240
Medical Medical Association, who
wants to control how many

2311
02:20:01,240 --> 02:20:05,400
doctors we have and what
medicines you can use, right?

2312
02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:08,840
And I say no.
Yeah, you're gonna have some

2313
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:09,920
quacks.
Yeah, you're gonna have some

2314
02:20:09,920 --> 02:20:11,600
people die.
But you could also find out

2315
02:20:11,600 --> 02:20:15,040
stuff that works.
And look, if you're on your

2316
02:20:15,040 --> 02:20:16,920
deathbed.
You don't care.

2317
02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:21,480
And and you know, if if you're
in your your 40s and you gotta

2318
02:20:21,480 --> 02:20:25,080
crack at living in 80 years
longer, right?

2319
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:28,640
You're gonna die if you don't
take it for sure, why not give

2320
02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:31,560
that dude a chance, right?
Why not let him take the risk?

2321
02:20:31,560 --> 02:20:33,600
Let let him take, let him take
the risk.

2322
02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:41,560
Now, I think that there, I don't
know favor of guilds, not labor

2323
02:20:41,560 --> 02:20:47,320
unions, but guilds in that they
can't control who make stuff.

2324
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:52,840
But I'm just saying for a labor
union, you cannot control who

2325
02:20:52,840 --> 02:21:00,160
works at that labor site.
But if you hire my labor guy, I

2326
02:21:00,160 --> 02:21:03,400
guarantee damn to you that he is
extremely proficient at

2327
02:21:03,400 --> 02:21:06,000
everything and you'll do better
than you've had average Joe

2328
02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:09,840
Schmuck down the street.
And so now you're competitive.

2329
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:15,360
I can hire Joe Schmuck down the
street and pay him 10 bucks an

2330
02:21:15,360 --> 02:21:17,000
hour.
I can pay 20 bucks an hour to

2331
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:20,120
this guy from the union who's
extremely proficient.

2332
02:21:20,120 --> 02:21:21,720
It'll do better than twice the
work.

2333
02:21:22,240 --> 02:21:24,120
Who you gonna hire?
You gonna hire the union guy?

2334
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:29,800
Except for the fact the unions
come with their own level of

2335
02:21:29,800 --> 02:21:31,320
bureaucracy.
That's what I'm saying.

2336
02:21:31,560 --> 02:21:36,560
You have to limit them.
They cannot make it impossible.

2337
02:21:37,640 --> 02:21:40,520
I, I, I was forced to be a
member of the union pilots

2338
02:21:40,520 --> 02:21:42,720
union.
They didn't do any, damn it a

2339
02:21:42,720 --> 02:21:44,440
good when, when, when trouble
hit.

2340
02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:49,320
But we had to because, you know,
we didn't have to join the

2341
02:21:49,320 --> 02:21:50,760
union, but had to pay their
dues.

2342
02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:53,440
Well, if I'm going to pay dues,
I'm going to be a voting member.

2343
02:21:54,040 --> 02:21:59,240
That's just the way it is.
And so, yeah, they come with

2344
02:21:59,240 --> 02:22:04,840
their own bureaucracy.
I, I would say you can't force

2345
02:22:04,840 --> 02:22:08,600
somebody to be any member or to
force the company to hire union

2346
02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:13,000
people.
That's BS, but you can make sure

2347
02:22:13,000 --> 02:22:17,160
the union members are highly
proficient and it's worth their

2348
02:22:17,160 --> 02:22:21,240
time and trouble to contribute
to your organization because

2349
02:22:22,080 --> 02:22:25,520
you're gonna get more job
opportunities because we are

2350
02:22:25,520 --> 02:22:28,040
more efficient.
The only problem with that that

2351
02:22:28,040 --> 02:22:34,240
I see is that you have labor
unions like AFLCIO that will

2352
02:22:34,240 --> 02:22:37,200
proudly tell you we stand with
Socialist Party USA.

2353
02:22:37,920 --> 02:22:40,640
Oh yeah, right.
And so they're riddled with that

2354
02:22:40,640 --> 02:22:45,280
kind of corruption.
The other thing is, is that, and

2355
02:22:45,280 --> 02:22:48,600
this is my experience, right?
Just just mine.

2356
02:22:48,600 --> 02:22:52,080
So I'm just speaking from
personal experience as a

2357
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:54,680
surveyor.
What I've discovered is that if

2358
02:22:54,680 --> 02:23:00,480
I hired a surveyor out of the
union hall or wherever, that

2359
02:23:00,480 --> 02:23:05,400
dude didn't give me a good day's
work 'cause he had so many

2360
02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:08,680
mandatory breaks and and there
were so many things that we had

2361
02:23:08,680 --> 02:23:12,120
to jump through to be able to be
proficient.

2362
02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:16,960
It it was my experience that, at
least in in my career, I had

2363
02:23:16,960 --> 02:23:21,360
found that the unions were often
a a hedge.

2364
02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:28,040
I I agree mostly what I I like I
said when I had a an issue they

2365
02:23:28,160 --> 02:23:30,160
they weren't worth crap to help
me.

2366
02:23:30,560 --> 02:23:33,440
Yeah, I, I remember there's a
guy that worked for us who was a

2367
02:23:33,440 --> 02:23:37,320
union guy.
Two of them, one guy sucked, the

2368
02:23:37,320 --> 02:23:40,200
other guy was great.
And I was like, I want to give

2369
02:23:40,200 --> 02:23:42,520
that guy a raise.
And so I went into HR and I

2370
02:23:42,520 --> 02:23:45,280
said, hey, I want to give, I
want to give John a raise here.

2371
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:48,920
So we can't give John a raise
without giving Ken a raise.

2372
02:23:49,520 --> 02:23:52,000
Well, why is that?
Well, because they're both union

2373
02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:56,000
and they're both pegged to the
same pay rate, but John does a

2374
02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:59,160
better job and Ken just turns
coffee into piss all day.

2375
02:23:59,480 --> 02:24:01,320
I can't what?
What can't you know?

2376
02:24:01,320 --> 02:24:05,080
And so it was frustrating
because there was a guy I wanted

2377
02:24:05,080 --> 02:24:08,080
to fire that I couldn't, and
there was a guy I wanted to

2378
02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:13,480
promote and I couldn't.
Yeah, and that's, and that's

2379
02:24:14,520 --> 02:24:17,960
where unions slowly fail.
And they they've got to get rid

2380
02:24:17,960 --> 02:24:21,120
of that kind of attitude again.
I say I'm not gonna say you

2381
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:25,960
can't have a union.
I'm gonna say one, and no union

2382
02:24:25,960 --> 02:24:28,840
could give any money to any.
And this could those

2383
02:24:28,840 --> 02:24:31,480
corporations because
corporations use all exist at

2384
02:24:31,480 --> 02:24:33,240
the perverance of the
government.

2385
02:24:33,560 --> 02:24:36,240
Therefore they cannot give any
money to any politician at any

2386
02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:39,040
time for any reason, period and
done.

2387
02:24:39,400 --> 02:24:41,600
You can't do that.
So that takes all the political

2388
02:24:41,920 --> 02:24:46,920
sting out of it.
Two, you can't make a contract

2389
02:24:46,920 --> 02:24:49,240
says you have to be union only.
Right.

2390
02:24:49,640 --> 02:24:52,440
So like in your case, your guy
could have gone, well, I can get

2391
02:24:52,440 --> 02:24:54,200
a promotion when I get out of
the union, so I'm going to go

2392
02:24:54,200 --> 02:24:56,000
over here.
The union wouldn't take very

2393
02:24:56,000 --> 02:24:58,120
long for them to stop.
Stop that bullshit.

2394
02:24:58,760 --> 02:25:03,000
It's just like in Hollywood.
Most of these Hollywood movies

2395
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:06,400
are made overseas now, or a lot
of them are, because their

2396
02:25:06,400 --> 02:25:09,400
union's just damn expensive.
And what makes them really

2397
02:25:09,600 --> 02:25:13,640
doubly expensive is if you're a
lighting guy, you can't work

2398
02:25:13,640 --> 02:25:16,880
sound.
If you're a prop guy, you can't

2399
02:25:16,880 --> 02:25:21,880
work sound or electric, you
know, So that to me is BSII was

2400
02:25:21,880 --> 02:25:24,960
stage manager in high school and
we did a little bit of

2401
02:25:24,960 --> 02:25:29,320
everything.
And at work, you know, and with

2402
02:25:29,320 --> 02:25:35,920
the union thing and there, you
know, rules and crap, you, you,

2403
02:25:35,920 --> 02:25:39,960
you have to hire six or eight
people and three or four

2404
02:25:39,960 --> 02:25:43,400
probably would work and save
you, you know, half of your

2405
02:25:43,400 --> 02:25:45,120
labor costs and producing the
movie.

2406
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:47,720
And.
And you're ahead of the game,

2407
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:49,960
but you're just making
everything more expensive, and

2408
02:25:49,960 --> 02:25:52,200
so it makes it more expensive
for the guy down the road.

2409
02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:54,120
Right.
More expensive for the

2410
02:25:54,120 --> 02:25:58,320
moviegoer, more expensive for
the producer, Everything.

2411
02:25:58,800 --> 02:26:03,520
Well, the other thing is, is
that communism requires labor.

2412
02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:07,600
That labor is in disagreement
with the manager, with

2413
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:12,960
management or capital, right?
Labor and capital can never have

2414
02:26:12,960 --> 02:26:17,440
a meeting of the minds, right?
In order for communism to gain a

2415
02:26:17,440 --> 02:26:21,560
foothold, even it has to be
viewed that capital is

2416
02:26:21,560 --> 02:26:26,000
exploiting labor, not a it can't
exist.

2417
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:29,680
Under under communism I saw.
I saw the the exploiter and the

2418
02:26:29,680 --> 02:26:30,840
exploiting.
Right.

2419
02:26:30,960 --> 02:26:35,280
And, and that's, and that's how
they, they, and, and this is one

2420
02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:40,000
of the ways, again, that
communism can limit production

2421
02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:43,080
and make people more reliant on
the government, right.

2422
02:26:43,360 --> 02:26:46,000
And then paint it as a failure
of capital.

2423
02:26:47,000 --> 02:26:50,440
Yeah.
Well, and they, they always go

2424
02:26:50,600 --> 02:26:55,320
and look at capital is, is it
it, it doesn't matter.

2425
02:26:55,880 --> 02:27:00,920
But what you're doing when you
have capital is I have saved up

2426
02:27:00,920 --> 02:27:03,720
my labor.
If I've worked for this, I've

2427
02:27:03,800 --> 02:27:09,680
put this away and now I wanna
put my labor that I saved to

2428
02:27:09,680 --> 02:27:12,760
work.
Well, really to risk, right, I

2429
02:27:12,760 --> 02:27:14,680
mean.
Well, yeah, it it when you do

2430
02:27:14,680 --> 02:27:18,600
that, you're putting it at risk.
You're you're taking a risk that

2431
02:27:19,040 --> 02:27:23,160
I I have to laugh, but it's sad
at some of these kids going

2432
02:27:23,400 --> 02:27:25,320
well, we're labor.
We should have the same as the

2433
02:27:25,760 --> 02:27:28,600
the owner.
No, you're not at risk.

2434
02:27:29,200 --> 02:27:32,080
No, you show up, you get so much
an hour and that's it.

2435
02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:36,320
You will, you know, think you
should create something here,

2436
02:27:37,200 --> 02:27:39,600
but that's up the owner, if he
likes what you did find, if he

2437
02:27:39,600 --> 02:27:44,240
doesn't, he's not gonna support
it because it's his money, it's

2438
02:27:44,240 --> 02:27:48,160
his risk, it's his labor.
It's all his.

2439
02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:54,000
And the difference between the
the entrepreneur in many cases

2440
02:27:54,520 --> 02:27:59,000
and this labor guy is a labor
guy went out and I've seen this

2441
02:27:59,000 --> 02:28:04,680
myself and had a couple of beers
every night and they had a, you

2442
02:28:04,680 --> 02:28:07,400
know, a steak dinner and blah,
blah, blah.

2443
02:28:08,120 --> 02:28:12,120
And the other guy had hot dogs
and stuff and saved his money so

2444
02:28:12,120 --> 02:28:13,520
he could do something with it
later.

2445
02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:18,280
Later my mother was telling me,
and this is, this is a black

2446
02:28:18,280 --> 02:28:23,160
situation, but it, it applies to
anybody in DC.

2447
02:28:23,240 --> 02:28:27,640
This is like 1961 or two
someplace in there.

2448
02:28:28,840 --> 02:28:34,400
Once these blacks got together
and they bought a Cadillac, they

2449
02:28:34,400 --> 02:28:36,960
take turns, drive around and
count out looking good.

2450
02:28:37,960 --> 02:28:40,680
And I'm thinking to myself, of
course I was ready to move.

2451
02:28:41,200 --> 02:28:43,400
Family started their own
business.

2452
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:48,840
Why would you not take that same
money for that Cadillac and buy

2453
02:28:48,840 --> 02:28:52,920
the corner liquor store or
corner convenience store and all

2454
02:28:52,920 --> 02:28:56,480
you get to get to work, then,
OK, you're not going to look

2455
02:28:56,480 --> 02:28:59,280
good.
It's going to be effort, but if

2456
02:28:59,280 --> 02:29:02,240
you all get together at work,
you know, and and share wages

2457
02:29:02,240 --> 02:29:07,480
and stuff and you own the store
eventually after the down

2458
02:29:07,480 --> 02:29:10,480
payment's paid, and then you can
buy another store and then

2459
02:29:10,480 --> 02:29:13,120
another store and pretty soon
you can all buy your own damn

2460
02:29:13,120 --> 02:29:14,640
Cadillac so you don't have to
share.

2461
02:29:14,960 --> 02:29:18,520
Right.
Well, it's a matter of of being

2462
02:29:18,840 --> 02:29:20,760
being taught those principles,
right?

2463
02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:22,280
I mean, that's just all there is
to it.

2464
02:29:22,600 --> 02:29:23,680
But.
Yeah.

2465
02:29:24,200 --> 02:29:27,560
Good stuff.
That's that's kind of where it's

2466
02:29:27,560 --> 02:29:35,480
so that's predict Bastiat 1848.
The state is a fictitious enemy

2467
02:29:35,480 --> 02:29:38,760
which entity which everyone
seeks to live at the expense of

2468
02:29:38,760 --> 02:29:41,360
everyone else.
That is a true statement.

2469
02:29:42,120 --> 02:29:46,640
That is a true statement.
Excuse me?

2470
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:48,920
Helping report through
government is like feeding the

2471
02:29:48,920 --> 02:29:50,560
sparrows through the horses,
right?

2472
02:29:53,920 --> 02:29:56,200
When government is the only
agency that can take a useful

2473
02:29:56,200 --> 02:29:58,680
commodity like paper, slap some
ink on it, make it totally

2474
02:29:58,680 --> 02:30:03,680
worthless, OK.
When Speaking of government

2475
02:30:04,480 --> 02:30:07,640
helping the family of profits,
said Missus Spencer W Kimmel.

2476
02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:11,040
Whether from inadvertence,
ignorance or other causes, the

2477
02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:15,240
efforts of government often make
sometimes only hurt the family

2478
02:30:15,240 --> 02:30:18,600
more.
There there are those who would

2479
02:30:18,600 --> 02:30:20,280
define the family out of
existence.

2480
02:30:20,280 --> 02:30:22,600
The more government try
governments try in vain to take

2481
02:30:22,600 --> 02:30:24,600
the place of the family, the
less effective governments will

2482
02:30:24,600 --> 02:30:27,320
be in forming the basic roles
which government will form in

2483
02:30:27,320 --> 02:30:30,480
the first place.
Principle 9.

2484
02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:34,320
Yeah, Elected farms, regional
planning and we've kind of gone

2485
02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:35,840
over that.
Yep, we have.

2486
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:39,400
You know, he just.
That's the.

2487
02:30:39,640 --> 02:30:42,120
More cradle to grave kind of
planning.

2488
02:30:42,840 --> 02:30:44,160
We're going to, we're going to
take over.

2489
02:30:44,160 --> 02:30:45,400
We're going to tell you what to
plant.

2490
02:30:45,560 --> 02:30:50,040
And the problem is you're going
to have some damn bureaucrat out

2491
02:30:50,040 --> 02:30:55,920
there who's never wrote a whole
weed his life tell them you got

2492
02:30:55,920 --> 02:31:00,320
to produce so many tons of wheat
and thought, well, yeah, maybe

2493
02:31:00,320 --> 02:31:02,960
they can, maybe they can't.
But under your system, it's

2494
02:31:02,960 --> 02:31:07,280
really difficult because we
didn't buy enough tractors this

2495
02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:08,440
year.
So you're going to do everything

2496
02:31:08,440 --> 02:31:11,640
by hand or we didn't do this or,
or the tractor broke, but we

2497
02:31:11,640 --> 02:31:13,760
don't have any funds.
We didn't anticipate that.

2498
02:31:13,760 --> 02:31:15,200
So we don't have any funds to
fix it.

2499
02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:20,400
And nobody gives a shit if you
break down a tractor here in my

2500
02:31:20,400 --> 02:31:23,480
place, OK, I'm going to find a
way to fix it.

2501
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:28,920
You know, you know, I can't tell
you I've made tools out of with

2502
02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:30,720
my lathe.
I've done all kinds of crazy

2503
02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:35,960
stuff that keeps things running
and if you, if you're not going

2504
02:31:35,960 --> 02:31:38,880
to make any money on that
factor, broke to hell, let it

2505
02:31:38,880 --> 02:31:39,800
sit.
I don't care.

2506
02:31:42,000 --> 02:31:44,280
I got something I want to say on
this, but I want to make sure it

2507
02:31:44,280 --> 02:31:46,440
doesn't fit into better into the
next section.

2508
02:31:46,440 --> 02:31:48,640
What's the next?
What's the 10th principal?

2509
02:31:50,040 --> 02:31:54,840
Public education for all kids.
I think I can do it here.

2510
02:31:54,840 --> 02:31:56,320
This would be better.
All right.

2511
02:31:56,920 --> 02:32:04,720
This goes when me and Amber were
adopting our twins, they called

2512
02:32:04,720 --> 02:32:06,320
us.
I got the call in Maryland.

2513
02:32:06,320 --> 02:32:07,960
I was still living in Maryland
at the time.

2514
02:32:07,960 --> 02:32:09,520
And the twins were born in
Boise.

2515
02:32:10,080 --> 02:32:13,080
And they basically say, look,
you're the only one that's

2516
02:32:13,080 --> 02:32:15,880
financially viable.
You're the only one who's

2517
02:32:15,880 --> 02:32:19,320
responsible enough to take these
twins in your family.

2518
02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:21,000
If you don't want them, we're
going to split them up.

2519
02:32:21,840 --> 02:32:23,840
And I was like, well, that's not
happening.

2520
02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:26,360
Let me go talk to my wife and
I'll call you back and call them

2521
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:29,000
back 15 minutes later and said,
yeah, we'll, we'll take them.

2522
02:32:29,480 --> 02:32:32,040
They said, well, you'll have to
relocate back to Boise.

2523
02:32:32,040 --> 02:32:33,560
And I'm like, yes, I'm well
aware.

2524
02:32:34,120 --> 02:32:39,720
And so we get it done.
We moved back to Boise and we

2525
02:32:39,720 --> 02:32:42,520
get we get the twins in our
home.

2526
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:45,760
But then they're like, OK, now
we already have 4 kids by the

2527
02:32:45,760 --> 02:32:47,400
time we adopt the twins.
OK.

2528
02:32:48,000 --> 02:32:50,160
And they say you need to be
foster parents.

2529
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:53,320
OK, fine.
How do I become a foster parent?

2530
02:32:53,560 --> 02:32:55,160
Well, you guys sit through our
course.

2531
02:32:55,640 --> 02:32:59,960
So I go in and I listen to a
dude who never had kids, doesn't

2532
02:32:59,960 --> 02:33:02,760
want kids, tell me how to be a
better parent.

2533
02:33:03,680 --> 02:33:05,560
OK, whatever, I'll play your
game.

2534
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:09,920
We finally get through all the
process.

2535
02:33:09,920 --> 02:33:12,120
My sister's rights gets
terminated.

2536
02:33:12,120 --> 02:33:14,160
So now we can adopt the kids,
right?

2537
02:33:14,160 --> 02:33:16,760
Everything's finally where it
needs to be.

2538
02:33:17,880 --> 02:33:21,000
But they're dragging their feet,
right, 'cause I need them to

2539
02:33:21,000 --> 02:33:25,480
take it from foster care.
This file, these two files from

2540
02:33:25,480 --> 02:33:29,760
foster care to permanent
placement right just down the

2541
02:33:29,760 --> 02:33:32,160
hall.
Just move that file and they're

2542
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:34,920
like, oh, we're just so busy.
I haven't had a chance yet.

2543
02:33:35,400 --> 02:33:40,520
This goes on for six months, six
months still.

2544
02:33:41,320 --> 02:33:45,760
Now, when you're a foster
parent, you can't take the kids

2545
02:33:46,520 --> 02:33:49,240
out of the county, right?
You need a waiver.

2546
02:33:50,160 --> 02:33:52,800
Or if you're not granted a
waiver, you got to leave them at

2547
02:33:52,800 --> 02:33:55,840
somebody else, some other foster
parents house while you go do

2548
02:33:55,840 --> 02:33:58,360
it.
Well, we've already bonded with

2549
02:33:58,360 --> 02:34:01,600
these kids and I was like, I'll
be damned if I'm going to drop

2550
02:34:01,600 --> 02:34:04,400
him off at somebody else's
house, right?

2551
02:34:06,520 --> 02:34:10,560
So finally I get fed up.
I'm like, you need I call him

2552
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:12,280
one day.
I'm like, you need to move the

2553
02:34:12,280 --> 02:34:15,960
files from foster care to
permanent placement.

2554
02:34:15,960 --> 02:34:18,720
She's like, Sir, I, I know
you're frustrated, but I'm just

2555
02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:20,680
too busy.
And I'm like to tell you what

2556
02:34:20,680 --> 02:34:22,960
I'm going to do.
I'm going to pay my secretary,

2557
02:34:23,320 --> 02:34:30,200
who makes way more than you to
go down and move those files and

2558
02:34:30,200 --> 02:34:34,000
she goes, well that won't work
because there's sensitive

2559
02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:36,000
information.
I was like, then I will come

2560
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:40,320
down on my lunch break.
I will grab those two files and

2561
02:34:40,320 --> 02:34:44,320
I will walk my happy ass down
the hall and drop them in the

2562
02:34:44,320 --> 02:34:50,960
appropriate office with
permanent placement, She said.

2563
02:34:50,960 --> 02:34:53,600
I'll have your case manager call
you back.

2564
02:34:54,520 --> 02:34:58,120
Like that sounds fantastic.
Within 10 minutes, I get a call

2565
02:34:58,120 --> 02:35:02,880
back.
This case manager is stammering

2566
02:35:02,880 --> 02:35:05,800
and stuttering and I'm like, get
me your manager now because

2567
02:35:05,800 --> 02:35:09,680
something's up.
I get a call from her manager

2568
02:35:10,360 --> 02:35:13,440
and she said, Mr. Sanders, I
can't tell you how grateful

2569
02:35:13,440 --> 02:35:16,560
we've been for your family that
you have stepped in and you've

2570
02:35:16,560 --> 02:35:19,880
taken on these two twins for the
past year and they're thriving.

2571
02:35:20,280 --> 02:35:23,520
But we really think since you
already have 4 kids, that six

2572
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:25,800
might be overwhelming.
So now we're going to look at

2573
02:35:25,800 --> 02:35:31,360
maybe other families who might
be more equipped to take care of

2574
02:35:31,360 --> 02:35:35,360
these two twins.
And at that point, I promptly

2575
02:35:35,360 --> 02:35:38,600
got an attorney and the
nastiest, meanest one I could

2576
02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:40,960
find.
And I'll be damned if he, when

2577
02:35:40,960 --> 02:35:44,640
he said he, you know, was gonna
go public, They didn't just move

2578
02:35:44,640 --> 02:35:46,320
the files to permanent
placement.

2579
02:35:46,720 --> 02:35:49,760
They moved it to an outside
adoption agency to get it done.

2580
02:35:51,320 --> 02:35:54,880
But I wasn't done.
I wanted to know what was going

2581
02:35:54,880 --> 02:35:58,240
on.
The central planning thing, this

2582
02:35:58,240 --> 02:36:05,560
collective planning fall goes
far, far beyond just farms and

2583
02:36:05,560 --> 02:36:08,800
just factories.
If you read Marx, he tells you

2584
02:36:09,280 --> 02:36:12,440
one of the things we have to get
rid of is the nuclear family,

2585
02:36:12,840 --> 02:36:15,680
right?
Children are state property and

2586
02:36:15,680 --> 02:36:18,240
as such, the the parents can't
have that.

2587
02:36:18,560 --> 02:36:25,800
And it's my opinion, I, I think
most logical people could see

2588
02:36:26,360 --> 02:36:31,200
that this wasn't about what was
doing right by the kids.

2589
02:36:31,240 --> 02:36:36,320
This was about central planning.
This was about there's some kid

2590
02:36:36,320 --> 02:36:40,320
that sat in school way too long,
absorbed a bunch of stuff, never

2591
02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:43,720
raised a kid of his own, and
then decides what's best for

2592
02:36:43,720 --> 02:36:45,560
him.
So when we start talking about

2593
02:36:45,560 --> 02:36:51,160
central planning, it goes into
more than just farms and

2594
02:36:51,160 --> 02:36:54,400
factories.
This goes to the very building

2595
02:36:54,400 --> 02:36:56,800
block of what societies are,
which are families.

2596
02:36:56,800 --> 02:36:59,320
Which is Hillary Clinton's That
Takes a Village bullshit.

2597
02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:01,480
Yeah, no, it doesn't take a
village hill.

2598
02:37:01,480 --> 02:37:03,920
It just takes you staying out of
my living room and I'll take it

2599
02:37:03,920 --> 02:37:04,760
from.
There exactly.

2600
02:37:05,600 --> 02:37:07,800
And that and that's the whole
thing.

2601
02:37:08,240 --> 02:37:11,120
That's why you, you're getting
all this stuff now with the

2602
02:37:11,560 --> 02:37:13,440
transgender stuff and everything
else.

2603
02:37:13,840 --> 02:37:18,360
They, they've been working for
years at and, and I'm gonna take

2604
02:37:18,360 --> 02:37:20,800
this back and people will
probably be upset, but I don't

2605
02:37:20,800 --> 02:37:23,880
care.
Goes back for a long time.

2606
02:37:23,880 --> 02:37:28,360
Satan has worked his best to
limit the number of people who

2607
02:37:28,360 --> 02:37:34,120
are born and who are OK.
And the, the Catholic Church,

2608
02:37:34,400 --> 02:37:39,080
originally all their priests
were married, but they got tired

2609
02:37:39,080 --> 02:37:43,280
of the arguments.
Well, the wife, the priest died.

2610
02:37:43,280 --> 02:37:45,000
The wife owns the, owns the
property.

2611
02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:46,280
No, he dealt the church owns the
property.

2612
02:37:46,280 --> 02:37:48,480
No, the wife owns the property,
blah, blah, but back and forth.

2613
02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:52,000
So they had them, you know, not
be married anymore.

2614
02:37:52,000 --> 02:37:55,720
So look at all the priests and
nuns who could have produced

2615
02:37:55,720 --> 02:37:57,440
children, which is the first
commandment.

2616
02:37:58,120 --> 02:37:59,800
And never.
Did and never did.

2617
02:38:00,320 --> 02:38:02,600
So that's to me, that's just
kind of the start of it.

2618
02:38:03,080 --> 02:38:04,800
Now you're doing this whole
thing.

2619
02:38:05,440 --> 02:38:11,200
Is is the purpose to fix these
people's gender dysphoria or is

2620
02:38:11,200 --> 02:38:13,480
it to destroy them so they can't
make kids?

2621
02:38:14,240 --> 02:38:15,640
I think they.
Start cutting off.

2622
02:38:15,720 --> 02:38:18,280
When you start cutting off parts
and pieces you're not going to

2623
02:38:18,280 --> 02:38:20,080
be able to produce.
Absolutely, absolutely.

2624
02:38:20,120 --> 02:38:23,120
That's what it's about.
And that's part of the

2625
02:38:23,120 --> 02:38:25,560
population control, part of the
whole communist thing.

2626
02:38:27,960 --> 02:38:30,040
I, I kind of got a kick out of
the Georgia guide.

2627
02:38:30,040 --> 02:38:32,040
So it's the only advice.
So I finally blew them damn

2628
02:38:32,040 --> 02:38:35,560
things up.
But the world population is

2629
02:38:35,560 --> 02:38:38,760
supposed to drop to like half a
million or so or half a billion

2630
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:43,240
from 14 billion.
So you, you're, you're willing

2631
02:38:43,240 --> 02:38:45,840
earn from 7 billion.
So you're willing to kill one

2632
02:38:45,840 --> 02:38:48,920
out of every kill 13 out of 14
people.

2633
02:38:49,360 --> 02:38:52,600
You get what you want.
Yep, absolutely.

2634
02:38:53,040 --> 02:38:55,320
Which kind of leads into this
next section, doesn't it?

2635
02:38:55,800 --> 02:38:58,240
Mm hmm.
Government education for all

2636
02:38:58,880 --> 02:39:01,440
children.
And I'm gonna let's see where is

2637
02:39:01,440 --> 02:39:05,720
it?
Oh, OK, I'll say no.

2638
02:39:06,280 --> 02:39:08,600
But I'm not mistaken.
My boy Brigham Young had some

2639
02:39:08,600 --> 02:39:13,440
things to say about this.
Yeah, well, I think we're gonna

2640
02:39:13,440 --> 02:39:15,600
go find it, but let me read
this.

2641
02:39:15,840 --> 02:39:17,840
This is from Bank in America.
Democracies there have been

2642
02:39:17,840 --> 02:39:21,480
spectacles of turbulence and
contention, have ever been found

2643
02:39:21,480 --> 02:39:23,840
incompatible with personal
security for the rights of

2644
02:39:23,840 --> 02:39:26,720
property, and in general been
been as short lived as their

2645
02:39:26,720 --> 02:39:29,040
lives as they have violated
their deaths.

2646
02:39:29,920 --> 02:39:32,720
Theoretic politicians who will
patronize this species of

2647
02:39:32,720 --> 02:39:36,080
government are honestly supposed
that by reducing mankind to

2648
02:39:36,080 --> 02:39:38,520
perfect equity in their
political rights, they will at

2649
02:39:38,520 --> 02:39:40,960
the same time be perfectly
equalized and assimilate their

2650
02:39:40,960 --> 02:39:43,000
possessions, their opinions and
their passions.

2651
02:39:44,200 --> 02:39:48,400
The problem you've got is that
people are very easily persuaded

2652
02:39:48,400 --> 02:39:52,440
and so if you have a pure
democracy, I can persuade the

2653
02:39:52,440 --> 02:39:54,160
majority of people.
It's mob.

2654
02:39:54,160 --> 02:39:58,000
Rule and it's mob rule and you
know, all these these I

2655
02:39:58,000 --> 02:40:01,120
especially get a kind of kick
ass all these black leaders who

2656
02:40:01,480 --> 02:40:04,680
this is a democracy.
If it were a democracy, we could

2657
02:40:04,680 --> 02:40:06,440
have eliminated you a long time
ago.

2658
02:40:07,120 --> 02:40:10,800
But a Republic?
The wheels are slowed down.

2659
02:40:10,840 --> 02:40:14,120
Well, the wheels are slowed down
and Republic, if you really run

2660
02:40:14,120 --> 02:40:17,960
one the way it's supposed to be,
we understand the rights of each

2661
02:40:17,960 --> 02:40:20,920
individual, regardless of the
skin color, regardless of how

2662
02:40:20,920 --> 02:40:23,280
they what the, the religion and
everything else.

2663
02:40:23,640 --> 02:40:26,880
You have a right to life.
You have right to liberty and

2664
02:40:26,880 --> 02:40:29,960
property and all those things,
all the things guaranteed by the

2665
02:40:29,960 --> 02:40:33,440
Constitution, I can't take away.
It doesn't matter.

2666
02:40:33,440 --> 02:40:35,440
I went back to my table saw
thing.

2667
02:40:36,160 --> 02:40:39,960
It doesn't matter what it is,
you have a right to that, to

2668
02:40:39,960 --> 02:40:42,000
make your living, to do what you
want to do.

2669
02:40:42,320 --> 02:40:44,960
And we can't take that away from
you.

2670
02:40:45,640 --> 02:40:50,200
So all these laws that say, oh,
we can tax your car.

2671
02:40:50,200 --> 02:40:54,720
Well, no, because I can see
where you can, you know, have a

2672
02:40:54,720 --> 02:40:57,240
license plate tracking the
vehicles and stuff.

2673
02:40:57,240 --> 02:40:58,480
I don't have a problem with
that.

2674
02:40:58,800 --> 02:41:01,800
But it's the cost of the license
plate and it should last for

2675
02:41:01,800 --> 02:41:05,120
several years and then you
change out and that's it.

2676
02:41:06,320 --> 02:41:13,280
It's just like taxes on gasoline
that should be for roads and

2677
02:41:13,280 --> 02:41:17,600
bridges and the end of it.
And that's, and that's the end

2678
02:41:17,600 --> 02:41:20,240
of the thing.
It's it's for that and everyone

2679
02:41:20,240 --> 02:41:23,600
has equal access.
But I just used to piss me off

2680
02:41:23,600 --> 02:41:27,600
to no end.
I had a dump truck go to the

2681
02:41:27,600 --> 02:41:31,360
rock yard and you can drive
through this one neighborhood

2682
02:41:31,360 --> 02:41:35,000
and it took about 5 or 10 miles
off the trip.

2683
02:41:35,880 --> 02:41:38,760
They started putting up signs
you can't ever drum trucks from

2684
02:41:38,760 --> 02:41:39,800
the neighborhood, blah blah
blah.

2685
02:41:39,800 --> 02:41:42,000
My damn tax.
I pay a whole lot more taxes on

2686
02:41:42,000 --> 02:41:43,680
a dump truck for fuel than you
do.

2687
02:41:44,360 --> 02:41:46,600
I'm paying a lot more for your
roads than you are.

2688
02:41:46,960 --> 02:41:48,960
Why are you keeping me out of it
Because you don't like the role

2689
02:41:48,960 --> 02:41:52,240
of a dump truck?
Well, how much the inconvenience

2690
02:41:52,240 --> 02:41:54,200
and how much more if you're
environmentalist?

2691
02:41:54,400 --> 02:41:57,240
Now I've got to run another 10
miles of truck that gets 6 miles

2692
02:41:57,240 --> 02:41:59,560
a gallon.
How much more is this going to

2693
02:41:59,600 --> 02:42:03,240
hurt the environment?
You know, if, if you're really

2694
02:42:03,240 --> 02:42:06,640
that liberal and it's I always
ran the ran The thing about

2695
02:42:06,880 --> 02:42:13,320
cars, if everyone has their way,
they think the guy's gonna say,

2696
02:42:13,360 --> 02:42:16,040
well, that dump truck's too loud
and too noisy, You can't drive

2697
02:42:16,040 --> 02:42:19,000
that.
Oh, and then somebody else will

2698
02:42:19,000 --> 02:42:21,520
say, well, your car's too small.
It doesn't haul enough people,

2699
02:42:21,520 --> 02:42:23,800
so you can't drive that.
And your car's too big.

2700
02:42:23,800 --> 02:42:26,160
It runs too much gas and pretty
soon nobody's going anywhere

2701
02:42:27,640 --> 02:42:30,280
because you all get your own
little Pete pet pimple peeves.

2702
02:42:30,680 --> 02:42:35,440
The reality is I've got a, I've
got a truck out here, it's got a

2703
02:42:35,440 --> 02:42:38,480
dump it on it.
That saves me a lot of grief

2704
02:42:38,920 --> 02:42:42,080
being able to run that I don't
have to call somebody for.

2705
02:42:42,240 --> 02:42:44,160
I need 2 yards of rock or
something.

2706
02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:48,360
I can just go get it.
But you know, somebody else,

2707
02:42:49,000 --> 02:42:51,480
they, they, they want to run it
over on the Volkswagen.

2708
02:42:51,480 --> 02:42:52,640
That's fine.
I don't care.

2709
02:42:52,960 --> 02:42:55,920
Do it, do what you want to do,
run your Prius if you want to.

2710
02:42:56,480 --> 02:42:58,680
You know, it doesn't doesn't
matter to me.

2711
02:42:59,160 --> 02:43:02,880
It's bad when you make electric
vehicles mandatory and the The

2712
02:43:03,320 --> 02:43:05,600
funny thing is that Fords stop
making them.

2713
02:43:06,120 --> 02:43:07,360
They can't, they can't sell
enough.

2714
02:43:07,360 --> 02:43:09,680
They're losing their ass.
And this is a government

2715
02:43:09,680 --> 02:43:13,480
mandated thing by somebody who
doesn't know part of the

2716
02:43:13,480 --> 02:43:17,520
expression shit from Shinola
about vehicles and stuff and

2717
02:43:17,560 --> 02:43:22,280
what people want.
I I talked to Mercedes the other

2718
02:43:22,280 --> 02:43:25,200
day and they're having a hard
time selling their damn pure

2719
02:43:25,200 --> 02:43:27,520
electric vehicles because nobody
wants them.

2720
02:43:28,400 --> 02:43:32,440
Why?
Well, First off, you got to make

2721
02:43:32,440 --> 02:43:36,880
electricity from some something.
Battery technology is not there

2722
02:43:36,880 --> 02:43:39,880
to the point where where you can
go a long ways of the vehicle a

2723
02:43:39,880 --> 02:43:41,480
couple 100 miles and that's
about it.

2724
02:43:41,520 --> 02:43:45,280
That's not worth a trip.
I drive down to Texas to see my

2725
02:43:45,280 --> 02:43:48,280
kids.
You know, we're driving 3400

2726
02:43:48,280 --> 02:43:52,200
miles.
You can't do that as much a

2727
02:43:52,200 --> 02:43:53,360
vehicle.
Right.

2728
02:43:54,280 --> 02:43:57,760
You know.
And so all this stuff just

2729
02:43:57,760 --> 02:44:00,600
doesn't doesn't work.
But somebody up there was, oh,

2730
02:44:01,040 --> 02:44:02,560
well, we're gonna get everyone.
We're gonna.

2731
02:44:03,080 --> 02:44:06,360
And this is part of the whole, I
don't remember 10 of 21.

2732
02:44:07,080 --> 02:44:11,800
OK, So that's the whole thing of
we're gonna put everyone in the

2733
02:44:11,800 --> 02:44:17,440
city and it doesn't work
because, you know, the farmers

2734
02:44:17,440 --> 02:44:23,120
need to be next to the farm.
Yeah, You know, I like my, I got

2735
02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:26,160
some property here.
I But we're making use of it.

2736
02:44:27,160 --> 02:44:29,480
Fact that I may not make use of
it as you do.

2737
02:44:30,240 --> 02:44:35,040
It's none of your damn business.
Yeah, Yep, absolutely.

2738
02:44:37,640 --> 02:44:40,640
All right.
So now we're on this here.

2739
02:44:40,640 --> 02:44:44,640
OK?
This is Soldiers Training Manual

2740
02:44:44,640 --> 02:44:49,880
issued by the War Department
November 30th 1928 and it's set

2741
02:44:49,880 --> 02:44:52,040
forth the truth of the
definition of democracy of a

2742
02:44:52,040 --> 02:44:54,200
Republic.
Democracy, the government of the

2743
02:44:54,200 --> 02:44:56,880
masses.
Authority to try through mass

2744
02:44:56,880 --> 02:45:00,040
meaning or any other form of
direct expression results in mob

2745
02:45:00,040 --> 02:45:03,200
biocracy.
Attitude towards property is

2746
02:45:03,200 --> 02:45:05,120
communistically gaining property
rights.

2747
02:45:05,520 --> 02:45:08,160
Attitude towards laws at the
will of the majority.

2748
02:45:08,160 --> 02:45:10,880
Sure, regularly will it be based
upon liberation or governed by

2749
02:45:10,880 --> 02:45:13,640
passion, presence or impulse
without restraining regard to

2750
02:45:13,640 --> 02:45:17,120
consequences.
Results in democratism, license

2751
02:45:17,160 --> 02:45:22,200
agitation, discount anarchy.
Republic authorities derived

2752
02:45:22,200 --> 02:45:25,240
through the election of people
of Republic, public officials

2753
02:45:25,240 --> 02:45:28,160
best fitted to represent them.
Attitude toward properties,

2754
02:45:28,160 --> 02:45:30,880
respect for laws and individual
rights, and a sensible economic

2755
02:45:30,880 --> 02:45:33,520
procedure.
Attitude towards laws,

2756
02:45:33,520 --> 02:45:36,120
administration of justice, and
accord with fixed principles

2757
02:45:36,120 --> 02:45:38,800
established evidence with strict
regard for consequences.

2758
02:45:39,640 --> 02:45:42,320
A greater number of citizens of
extent of territory were brought

2759
02:45:42,320 --> 02:45:46,640
within its compost affords the
danger avoids the dangers of

2760
02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:49,120
extremely tyranny or
bibliography results of safeless

2761
02:45:49,120 --> 02:45:51,760
ship liberty reasons, justice
continent and progressive

2762
02:45:51,800 --> 02:45:54,440
contentment and progressive
progress.

2763
02:45:55,040 --> 02:45:59,640
So this is supposed to be
Republic and and I just pisses

2764
02:45:59,640 --> 02:46:01,920
me off to no end.
How many people refer to this as

2765
02:46:01,920 --> 02:46:07,680
democracy because it's not by as
public as basic.

2766
02:46:07,680 --> 02:46:11,280
It is a Republic and if you
don't understand the difference,

2767
02:46:12,080 --> 02:46:13,560
you can have a mess in your
hands.

2768
02:46:13,880 --> 02:46:16,280
Right.
I should point out here that

2769
02:46:16,280 --> 02:46:19,760
that what you're talking about
here is, is what the kids are

2770
02:46:19,760 --> 02:46:21,840
being taught now, right?
They're being taught we're a

2771
02:46:21,840 --> 02:46:24,600
democracy, not a Republican.
You're, you're drawing that

2772
02:46:24,600 --> 02:46:31,680
comparison the, the, the early
brethren within Mormonism.

2773
02:46:32,440 --> 02:46:35,320
And, and let me, let me, we
should probably go back here and

2774
02:46:35,320 --> 02:46:37,280
talk about some of the other
problems we're seeing with

2775
02:46:37,280 --> 02:46:41,960
public education, right?
It's not education like we think

2776
02:46:42,000 --> 02:46:44,360
of, right?
They're not being, they're not

2777
02:46:44,360 --> 02:46:46,280
being taught how to think
critically.

2778
02:46:46,280 --> 02:46:49,040
They're being taught what to
think exactly, right.

2779
02:46:49,040 --> 02:46:53,000
And So what happens is that you
have they become indoctrination

2780
02:46:53,000 --> 02:46:57,040
centers more than schools now.
The early brethren and

2781
02:46:57,040 --> 02:47:00,360
Mormonism, they didn't like the
idea of public schools, if I'm

2782
02:47:00,360 --> 02:47:06,160
not mistaken.
Well, OK, when you read about

2783
02:47:06,160 --> 02:47:12,480
the change after the manifesto,
one of the things they did is

2784
02:47:12,480 --> 02:47:15,360
they got rid of the Mormon
schools.

2785
02:47:15,880 --> 02:47:18,280
They kept the university, but
they got rid of the schools and

2786
02:47:18,280 --> 02:47:21,440
made them public schools.
People didn't realize what a

2787
02:47:22,680 --> 02:47:27,880
that was.
That was one of the biggest

2788
02:47:28,080 --> 02:47:32,160
problems I had with my ex-wife
and one of my daughter's was I

2789
02:47:32,160 --> 02:47:35,880
was trying to explain to them,
OK, Marlon says that an Long

2790
02:47:35,880 --> 02:47:39,200
Beach teacher, someone believes
like you do on the nation.

2791
02:47:39,200 --> 02:47:42,000
You're saying things, well,
public schools are fine.

2792
02:47:42,000 --> 02:47:43,920
Well, look at the public schools
today.

2793
02:47:44,800 --> 02:47:49,320
They are a mess and most of the
teachers don't even know because

2794
02:47:49,320 --> 02:47:52,880
they've been a doctorate
colleges and stuff.

2795
02:47:54,160 --> 02:47:56,400
So here's let me go through some
quotes here.

2796
02:47:56,400 --> 02:47:58,440
Parents don't mean to be
incompetent, but they are.

2797
02:47:58,440 --> 02:48:01,360
And remedy is federal status of
central standards of child

2798
02:48:01,360 --> 02:48:04,400
raising.
German white.

2799
02:48:04,520 --> 02:48:08,840
US Office of Child Development
review the news 3/10/76.

2800
02:48:09,320 --> 02:48:11,640
By the year 2000, we'll raise
our children to believe in human

2801
02:48:11,640 --> 02:48:13,040
potential, not God.
Glory.

2802
02:48:13,040 --> 02:48:16,040
Steinman had a review education
1973.

2803
02:48:17,720 --> 02:48:20,960
It is absurd to say that one was
a humanist but not a feminist.

2804
02:48:20,960 --> 02:48:23,760
Feminism is the last evolution.
Development of humanism.

2805
02:48:23,760 --> 02:48:26,520
Feminism Humanism on its most
advanced level.

2806
02:48:26,760 --> 02:48:28,240
Ryan, Esther.
Humanist magnetism.

2807
02:48:29,840 --> 02:48:33,880
Humanism is the denial of God
and its whole affirmation of

2808
02:48:33,880 --> 02:48:36,560
man.
Humanism is nothing but Marxism,

2809
02:48:36,840 --> 02:48:39,960
Karl Marx, etiquette of of
philosophy.

2810
02:48:41,040 --> 02:48:43,640
Trust no one to be your teaching
or your minister except to be a

2811
02:48:43,640 --> 02:48:46,000
man of God, walking his ways and
keeping his commandments.

2812
02:48:46,000 --> 02:48:51,240
Mosiah 2314.
I'm as opposed to free education

2813
02:48:51,240 --> 02:48:53,600
as much as I opposed to taking
property one man and giving it

2814
02:48:53,600 --> 02:48:55,520
to another who knows not how to
take care of it.

2815
02:48:56,160 --> 02:49:00,160
I'm for the real act of doing it
and not saying would I encourage

2816
02:49:00,160 --> 02:49:03,520
free edge schooled by taxation.
No Brigham Young Journal

2817
02:49:03,520 --> 02:49:06,560
discourses.
The Christian world has actually

2818
02:49:06,560 --> 02:49:09,480
come to the point that they will
dismiss the Bible from our

2819
02:49:09,480 --> 02:49:11,960
schools and buy and buy all the
dismisses from the pulpits and

2820
02:49:12,440 --> 02:49:15,080
get one to suit themselves.
Though he'll have themselves

2821
02:49:15,080 --> 02:49:17,160
systems that will hold no water.
Bring them young.

2822
02:49:17,760 --> 02:49:22,040
Well, he was right on that one.
Yeah, if you want to pulperize

2823
02:49:22,040 --> 02:49:24,200
the committee been by giving
them something they've never

2824
02:49:24,200 --> 02:49:27,720
earned, The government owes owes
to the child schooling and also

2825
02:49:27,720 --> 02:49:30,920
owned by parity of reasoning
owes to a food and clothing at

2826
02:49:30,920 --> 02:49:33,440
public expense.
If you want to destroy a child's

2827
02:49:33,440 --> 02:49:37,280
mind in that feeling of entity,
self respect and self-reliance

2828
02:49:37,280 --> 02:49:40,240
which all should have, you're
impressed behind that the state

2829
02:49:40,240 --> 02:49:43,080
government owes him something
which he cannot can depend.

2830
02:49:46,240 --> 02:49:48,160
And it just kind of goes on and
on, doesn't?

2831
02:49:48,160 --> 02:49:51,000
It.
And again, we don't want to

2832
02:49:51,000 --> 02:49:55,000
spoil a book for anybody.
OK, So we just went through 10

2833
02:49:55,000 --> 02:50:00,040
principles here, right?
And we compared them with these

2834
02:50:00,040 --> 02:50:03,320
10 principles found in the
manifest in the Communist

2835
02:50:03,320 --> 02:50:08,320
Manifesto, and then compare them
to what, what good government

2836
02:50:08,320 --> 02:50:14,120
is.
And then what, what, what early

2837
02:50:14,120 --> 02:50:18,000
church brethren have been now?
We've been at this now for about

2838
02:50:18,000 --> 02:50:21,880
3 hours.
Yeah, Yep.

2839
02:50:21,880 --> 02:50:25,120
So I don't want to give away any
more of the book.

2840
02:50:25,920 --> 02:50:29,280
So let me ask you this, How do
you fix all this?

2841
02:50:29,880 --> 02:50:34,160
Well, First off, you have to
have an educated public that's

2842
02:50:34,160 --> 02:50:37,040
they've done their best to
deeducate everybody.

2843
02:50:37,360 --> 02:50:44,160
I remember when I went to school
in Virginia, we read a Bible

2844
02:50:44,160 --> 02:50:45,000
verse.
Everybody.

2845
02:50:45,320 --> 02:50:47,680
Right.
Said the Pledge of Allegiance.

2846
02:50:48,000 --> 02:50:51,640
That's slowly just taking all
that out and it's like blowing

2847
02:50:51,640 --> 02:50:53,440
the frog in the water.
Right.

2848
02:50:53,720 --> 02:50:57,440
You know, it's that I think it's
gonna take some innovation from

2849
02:50:57,440 --> 02:50:59,400
the Lord, from people who know
what they're doing.

2850
02:51:00,560 --> 02:51:04,280
Yeah, I, I, you know, so often
I've thought about this a lot.

2851
02:51:04,840 --> 02:51:08,520
I'm a guy who likes to look
forward to find the answers to

2852
02:51:08,520 --> 02:51:13,080
problems.
However, there's sometimes we

2853
02:51:13,080 --> 02:51:17,520
just need to look back, right?
There's a principle within

2854
02:51:17,520 --> 02:51:21,560
surveying called latitudes and
departures, right, which says

2855
02:51:21,560 --> 02:51:24,440
that if if you're starting from
a fixed point, a known point,

2856
02:51:25,160 --> 02:51:29,680
and you want to go on a bearing
right for say thousands of

2857
02:51:29,680 --> 02:51:35,800
miles, right, and you're off by
a second of a degree.

2858
02:51:36,280 --> 02:51:37,520
You'd be all way the hell out
the.

2859
02:51:37,560 --> 02:51:40,200
End of Yeah, at the beginning,
you don't notice any difference,

2860
02:51:40,200 --> 02:51:42,160
right?
I mean, it's, you know, you go

2861
02:51:42,160 --> 02:51:43,920
out a mile, you're not gonna see
any difference.

2862
02:51:43,920 --> 02:51:46,040
You go out two miles, you're
really not seeing any

2863
02:51:46,040 --> 02:51:48,720
difference.
Maybe at about 500 miles, you

2864
02:51:48,720 --> 02:51:50,400
start noticing something's not
right.

2865
02:51:50,400 --> 02:51:53,360
And then by the time you get to
1000 miles, well, now all of a

2866
02:51:53,360 --> 02:51:56,680
sudden you've missed your target
by thousands of feet, right.

2867
02:51:57,240 --> 02:52:01,120
And and this is where we are, I
think in the country, right, is

2868
02:52:01,120 --> 02:52:04,440
that we've, we keep looking
forward for answers.

2869
02:52:04,440 --> 02:52:06,880
And that's good.
We should look for answers

2870
02:52:06,880 --> 02:52:10,160
everywhere.
But it doesn't matter what

2871
02:52:10,160 --> 02:52:13,360
heading we're on.
And if we can't look back and

2872
02:52:13,360 --> 02:52:17,040
get our bearings right.
And sometimes we have to go back

2873
02:52:17,040 --> 02:52:20,480
and say, OK, let's look at the
point of departure, get back to

2874
02:52:20,480 --> 02:52:24,640
that and then course correct.
So we can be on a sufficient

2875
02:52:24,640 --> 02:52:29,600
course now with these latitudes
and departures, you don't have

2876
02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:30,880
to go all the way to the
beginning.

2877
02:52:30,880 --> 02:52:33,680
What you need to do is you need
to look back to the beginning.

2878
02:52:34,400 --> 02:52:36,840
And then count.
And figure out where you were

2879
02:52:36,840 --> 02:52:39,360
supposed to be and then get back
on that track, right?

2880
02:52:39,680 --> 02:52:42,600
And so I don't think we have to
tear this all down, right?

2881
02:52:42,840 --> 02:52:45,080
That's something else people
will say, let's just burn it

2882
02:52:45,080 --> 02:52:47,000
down.
I'm like, no, don't burn this

2883
02:52:47,000 --> 02:52:48,760
down.
This is look, this is all

2884
02:52:48,760 --> 02:52:52,000
screwed up, but it has been the
most stable for the last couple

2885
02:52:52,000 --> 02:52:54,600
100 years.
Let's just make a course

2886
02:52:54,600 --> 02:52:57,760
correction and get back on
track, right?

2887
02:52:57,760 --> 02:53:01,680
And, and that's the point I want
to get to is it's just telling

2888
02:53:01,680 --> 02:53:04,880
people.
I know it seems daunting, but

2889
02:53:04,880 --> 02:53:09,200
everything in me says this isn't
something we have to burn down

2890
02:53:09,200 --> 02:53:11,280
the system for.
This is just something we have

2891
02:53:11,280 --> 02:53:15,360
to make a few horse corrections
and we'll be back on track.

2892
02:53:15,720 --> 02:53:18,400
Yeah, there's just another point
I wanted to make.

2893
02:53:20,760 --> 02:53:23,680
These folks who are kind of
driving the train have been

2894
02:53:23,680 --> 02:53:28,480
doing this for centuries, and
their favorite thing is to pit

2895
02:53:28,480 --> 02:53:31,920
people against one another.
They do that for a variety of

2896
02:53:31,920 --> 02:53:34,960
ways, but it's kind of a poor
example.

2897
02:53:35,320 --> 02:53:38,200
Imagine the civil.
War and you.

2898
02:53:38,200 --> 02:53:39,800
Want to start a war between the
states?

2899
02:53:39,800 --> 02:53:41,200
Because that's how you make your
money.

2900
02:53:41,200 --> 02:53:46,160
You know, you get you finance
both sides and do lost thousands

2901
02:53:46,160 --> 02:53:47,640
of folks who've been doing this
for years.

2902
02:53:48,160 --> 02:53:53,120
So you send a guy with a little
bit of money down to let's say

2903
02:53:53,720 --> 02:53:58,160
North Carolina and he gets
friendly with the artillery

2904
02:53:58,280 --> 02:54:03,640
battery commander there and he
convinces that guy you you

2905
02:54:03,640 --> 02:54:05,360
should be able to shoot those
Union troops.

2906
02:54:05,600 --> 02:54:08,080
You know, I can't say that that
actually happened.

2907
02:54:08,080 --> 02:54:09,800
What I'm saying is that would be
the technique.

2908
02:54:10,920 --> 02:54:16,080
So he fires on Fort Sumter and
Civil War start.

2909
02:54:16,080 --> 02:54:17,960
Of course, it didn't turn out
the way he wanted it because

2910
02:54:17,960 --> 02:54:20,960
Lincoln they should greenbacks,
but that's the kind of stuff

2911
02:54:20,960 --> 02:54:27,200
they will do.
And so they're, they want women

2912
02:54:27,200 --> 02:54:31,720
against men, blacks against
whites, you know, gays against

2913
02:54:32,360 --> 02:54:34,520
straights, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

2914
02:54:34,520 --> 02:54:36,560
Anything they can do to create
conflict.

2915
02:54:36,600 --> 02:54:41,280
If you fall into that trap, if
you decide that you want to, you

2916
02:54:41,280 --> 02:54:44,560
know, hate your neighbor or hate
this guy over here or listen to

2917
02:54:44,560 --> 02:54:49,680
all this stuff, you're going to
create a problem that they

2918
02:54:49,680 --> 02:54:51,760
created.
They're they're just egging you

2919
02:54:51,760 --> 02:54:54,360
on.
You know, and I think it's worth

2920
02:54:54,360 --> 02:54:58,360
pointing out that that is a big,
that's a big principle within

2921
02:54:58,360 --> 02:55:00,400
communism.
Mark's talked about this

2922
02:55:00,400 --> 02:55:04,200
specifically and and it's called
critical theory, right, which is

2923
02:55:04,200 --> 02:55:07,120
you always have to have an
oppressor and an oppressed class

2924
02:55:07,120 --> 02:55:10,960
in order for communism to work,
especially in the revolutionary

2925
02:55:10,960 --> 02:55:14,760
period.
So, and when I say that, you

2926
02:55:14,760 --> 02:55:19,040
know, like the revolutionary
part of communism and and so it,

2927
02:55:19,040 --> 02:55:21,440
that that holds weight and what
you're saying is exactly

2928
02:55:21,440 --> 02:55:23,440
correct.
The, the other thing I think too

2929
02:55:23,440 --> 02:55:27,120
here is, is that it is a trap,
right?

2930
02:55:27,120 --> 02:55:31,440
Like if you look at January 6, I
firmly believe that was a trap,

2931
02:55:31,440 --> 02:55:34,480
right?
They wanted people to act up so

2932
02:55:34,480 --> 02:55:37,640
that they could come down from
on top and kind of quash that,

2933
02:55:38,120 --> 02:55:39,560
right?
And quash the movement.

2934
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:43,240
And, and so it's a, it's a
complicated game that I think we

2935
02:55:43,240 --> 02:55:46,640
have to play here, Phil, which
is we have to stand our ground,

2936
02:55:47,240 --> 02:55:50,200
but we can't get violent about
it, you know what I mean?

2937
02:55:50,480 --> 02:55:52,880
Because then then we spring the
trap.

2938
02:55:53,880 --> 02:55:55,800
Yeah, and that's exactly what
they're helping for.

2939
02:55:56,160 --> 02:55:58,160
So where can people find the
book?

2940
02:55:58,960 --> 02:56:03,000
I hope they get a hold of you.
I'll, I'll, I'll I'll send them

2941
02:56:03,000 --> 02:56:04,640
a copy or.
Something OK, get get a hold of

2942
02:56:04,640 --> 02:56:06,080
me.
We'll we'll have you make it

2943
02:56:06,080 --> 02:56:08,640
small.
Yeah, yeah, probably, probably

2944
02:56:08,640 --> 02:56:11,120
20 bucks 'cause it takes a lot
of work to put.

2945
02:56:11,360 --> 02:56:13,240
Absolutely.
It takes a little bit of work,

2946
02:56:13,240 --> 02:56:14,440
doesn't it?
Yes it does.

2947
02:56:14,440 --> 02:56:18,480
It takes a lot of.
Work it does so Yep 20 bucks 25

2948
02:56:18,480 --> 02:56:21,760
if you're feeling generous and
we'll get you hooked up so Phil

2949
02:56:21,760 --> 02:56:24,800
thanks man this was fun I'm.
Glad you enjoyed it.

2950
02:56:25,120 --> 02:56:26,600
All right.
We'll talk to you later.

2951
02:56:27,240 --> 02:57:00,000
Bye everybody.
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2952
02:57:00,040 --> 02:57:01,360
Renegade podcast.