Episode #136: A Conversation W/Chief Midegah

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So unless you've been living
under a rock, you've probably

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seen somewhere on social media a
man named Chief Mitiga.

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He's the Native American
gentleman who's been talking

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about the current plight of the
Native Americans and sharing

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some very interesting
connections to Mormonism.

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Today he joins me on the
podcast.

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Now, if you want a lot of cool
doctrine and stories, there's

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definitely some of that in here.
Now, as cool as those stories

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are, I wanted however, to get
down to the nuts and bolts of

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what his vision is going forward
to help his people.

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During our conversation, we end
up covering some of the current

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pushback he's receiving, the
history of his people, the

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Native Americans connection to
the Book of Mormon and

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Mormonism, and what are his
plans to help his people.

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And finally, an exploration of
third knee by chapter 16.

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You're listening to the Mormon
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Chief Mitiga, you've been a busy
man.

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I see your face everywhere these
days.

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It's, it's been pretty cool to,
to, to watch.

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So I'm super excited that you're
here.

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I really am.
Thanks for being here.

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I'm glad to be here with you,
too, you know, as in the

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Marines.
And we took pride in being the

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Renegades.
Hey some someone someone has

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someone has to put put the
shoulder to the wheel and push a

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little harder, right?
Well, we, we certainly try to do

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that.
So I'm, I worked with a Marine

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for a lot of years.
Shout out to Joe again, thanks

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for being here.
Really appreciate you having me

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and, and, and, you know,
especially with what's occurred

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and it's just, you know, it's
interesting.

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Yeah.
You were saying when right

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before I brought you on, you
were saying there was some stuff

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you wanted to go over before we
get going.

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And then I got some questions
that I want to bounce off of you

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based off some things you've
said on some of your other

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videos, just to get a feel of
what it is you're talking about

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and maybe how it is we can help.
Are you good with that?

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Yeah, absolutely.
I'm fantastic with.

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I'm probably the most
transparent person like anyone's

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ever met and.
But what I.

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What I wanted to, you know, to
what it kind of shocks me is, is

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there are those that for some
reason take the approach of

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telling a child they're not the
same as their parent.

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They would never allow it in
their own life.

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And this is the hill that a
large group of LDS have chosen

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to apparently die on.
And I can say that I was in the

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Marines 14 years.
I'm an Afghan combat veteran.

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I'm a senior staff and CEO of
the United States Marine Corps.

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And that just doesn't go away.
I'm an honor graduate of the

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Staff Leadership Academy as well
as officer candidate school.

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And, and I can call BS when I
see BS and I and then this is BS

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who says that?
It's eloquent that how I talk,

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but I can't prove that I'm an
Indian, so I must not be.

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What does he mean by you?
Can't father?

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Oh, I can't prove.
That's the thing.

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My father is a registered member
of the Turtle Mountain Band of

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Chippewa Indians.
His membership number is 304,

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Dash 23168.
I am called a member descendant

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as I am his son and I have a
blood quantum issued that is 1/8

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Turtle Mountain.
You can only pick one location.

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I have a blood quantum that
would qualify me for every

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tribe. 300 to 500 as full
citizen.

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Full voting citizen.
Unfortunately, while I'm

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considered a member at Turtle
Mountain, I can't.

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You can only vote if you're 1/4.
This is a law they passed in

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1934 called the Indian
Reorganization Act, which was

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meant to make the Indian
eliminate in the 1950s.

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They had 100 and 150 something
reservations or because of this

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they, they, they dissolved them
because when you cease to have

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somebody above 1/4, they
dissolve you.

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Now this has been declared by
the the United Nations as

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genocide, a tool of genocide.
I have a blood quantum.

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I am my father's son.
And if if an and this group of

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Mormons would like to die on the
Hill of telling an Indian son

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he's not the same as the Indian,
let alone what does it have to

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do?
AUS policy again, I have more

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blood quantum than famed
Cherokee Chief John Ross of the

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mid 1800s.
OK, So we I have a higher blood

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quantum than the last four
chiefs of the Cherokee.

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OK.
And what does that have to do

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with our traditional Dudamag of
the Anishinaabeg?

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What does it have to do with the
traditional spiritual ways of

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the Anashinabeg?
What does it have to do with my

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clan, my Dudamag?
Nothing to do with my Dudamag

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and those who are traditional.
And those who know, know my

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grandmother was a matrilineal
clan, mother of the Anashinabeg

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clan society, the Dudamag.
And everybody knows they can

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Google it.
And I was appointed as a headman

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in Ogichi Da A in February 10th,
2018 in the Turtle Mountain

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Tribal headquarters.
In the lodge held in the

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headquarters, my name was given
by Debbie Gorno and Alex Dakoto

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of the Eagle Francis Eagleheart
Cree Lodge.

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My grandmother, my great
grandparents, my grandfather

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were on the 1940s roll.
I am in the Pembina Chippewa

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database.
Affirmed August 27th of 2023 by

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the District Court of Washington
DC who lodged a temporary

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restraining order against the
payout of Turtle Mountains 1892

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Mccumber Agreement.
Because Article 8 within that

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very agreement states that the
Red Bear Chippewa who are living

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there will get their
reservation.

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Meaning we are separate and it
never came and so we are still

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there.
That it's not my job to make

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sure that you understand my
right to be the son of my

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father.
The 1964 and 65 United States

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Court of Claims declared that
Turtle Mountain, even though

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we're there, could not speak for
the little shell in North

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Dakota, the little shell in
Montana, the Red Lake Pembina,

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the the OR the red Bear Pembina.
In 1971, the United States

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Congress, because of my family's
treaty rights never being

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abrogated, taken away, passed a
resolution that means far more

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than your piece of crap e-mail.
It's Resolution 6072 report

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#142-92 that declared which
families had the right to speak

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as The Chieftains of the Red
Bear family who under Article 9

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of the 1863 treaty, are promised
a reservation for seating

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11,000,000 acres in Minnesota,
and under the 1892 treaty with

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Turtle Mountain, where our 640
acres were within their nine and

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a half million acres, they
wanted us to sell too.

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We said no, so they had to add
an article.

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And anybody can Google the 1892
Mccumber agreement.

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It says that.
So even though we are there,

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we're not the same as them.
In 1974, Turtle Mountain tried

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to sue Red Lake and the Pembina
bands again and they lost in

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1980.
I am an original award a lot E

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of the Pembina settlement.
I was two years old and So what

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you're doing as a latter day St.
standing upon a history of

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plates you can't provide is you
choose to attack a ceremonial

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messenger from the Mid do lodge
who is a scroll keeper who

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carries a council Firestone.
Not something I expect you to

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understand because it's your
descendants that created blood

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quantum and put us in
reservations and took all of our

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things from us and then our
children because we couldn't

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support them.
However, the reality is it's

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unacceptable.
I am my father's son and and I

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and I have a blood
quantification and I have a

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right to speak.
I have a right.

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I fly with an eagle feather.
Why?

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Because I'm authorized to have
the eagle feather and they need

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to consider that real quick.
And I'm upset about it because

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what, instead of wait, instead
of asking, and now I gotta, I

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gotta carry papers like I'm a
Jew.

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And I can say this because the
Jews are my friends and they're

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the ones that brought this up.
Why are they treating you?

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Why are the Mormons of all
people treating me?

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And I'm from them.
I'm my I'm a Taylor Smith Millet

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and clothier.
Why are they treating me like a

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Jew in Nazi Germany?
I have to carry my papers to be

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valued enough for you to to
recognize me.

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What are you talking about?
Is this the heel that the

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members of the LDS church are
gonna die on?

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Your This is the last heel to
pick.

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Let me ask you this question.
Why is it that they're doubting

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your, your ancestral claims?
What?

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What is the basis of of that?
It's the it's what they do.

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It's the first thing this, this,
this has happened for 40 years,

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50 years.
My son's coming over.

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My son is my son and he's the
same as me.

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And I will fight for my
ancestors that are not born yet.

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My generations.
There's my other son right

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there.
They're the same as me.

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Here's what happened.
For some strange reason, this is

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the first thing that's said
whenever an Indian speaks out.

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Tom d'estal.
He was in in the Abhinaki

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Nation.
He was my one of my way as my

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elders.
He was recognized all the way up

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into the 50s.
They dissolved his reservation,

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never recognized it again till
2011.

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He travelled all around the
world and around the US trying

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to speak for you guys, how you
have a voice and everybody said,

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oh, you're not an Indian.
And then in 2011 they re

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recognized his reservation and
all.

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He's an Indian.
All of a sudden this is what

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they do.
The little shell in Montana, the

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little shell in North Dakota,
they said you're not Indians,

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right?
You're the the United States is

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not a, a monarchy of the
executive branch.

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We have to be recognized by the
government.

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There are three Co equal
branches.

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If you are recognized by
Congress, if you are recognized

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by the judicial branch in court
of law, you are recognized by

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the federal government.
The Department of Interior falls

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under the executive branch and
they recognize you for payments

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of money.
That's all that is, but that for

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some reason the white man says
if you're not recognized by

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that, but I am, I'm 100%
recognized.

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They get called all the time
about me all the time.

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They do it to silence our voice.
Interesting.

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That's why.
What is it you're saying that's

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got him so upset you think?
Oh, hold on.

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Hey son.
No, no, not right now.

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He wants to drive his little
muffet.

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You're you're all it's a Mormon
podcast.

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We should this thing.
I'm surprised doesn't sound like

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sacrament meeting with crying
babies.

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We're good.
So they're, they're, they're

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upset that I speak against what
they're doing to us.

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OK, and who's they?
Let's let's be specific here.

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When you say they are against
me, who, who are they?

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Well, the federal, the federal
government set up a system with

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the 1934 Indian Reorganization
Act to eliminate the identity of

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the Indian and assimilate you as
an American based upon, based

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upon requirements they forced
upon communities that they don't

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accept for themselves and no
other people in the world use

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lineal dissent is the norm.
And what they do is they say

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that that they issued, they
forced blood quantum, which is

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OK, Hey, whatever there, you
know, blood quantum is so

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arbitrary that in 2019, Red Lake
took their 1958 role and just

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said, fine, U.S. government,
everybody's full blood.

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That's how arbitrary it is.
OK.

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But it's the it's the policies
of the Bureau of Indian Affairs

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at the direction of the
Secretary of the Interior that

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are pressed upon us that control
our economic development, what

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we can do with our land and what
we can do with our children.

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It's an extension of what they
were already doing with our

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children when they were taking
them from families until 1978.

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They don't want the history
spoken that there are people

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that they say knowing full well
my dad couldn't be raised by his

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mom, my grandmother couldn't be
raised by her parents.

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My great grandmothers and
grandfather couldn't be raised

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by their parents.
And they know we're the 1st

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generation to speak it.
And and they tell me, oh, it's

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too aggressive, it's too noisy,
it's too hard to hear.

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Well, you tell that to the Jews
that came out of out of their

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Holocaust in World War Two.
Would you say that to them?

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No, you today their
grandchildren that never even

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have a first they would say we
can talk about it for 1000

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years.
It's not my fault your history

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books didn't include the truth
and you know, and I'm speaking

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it and they don't like it and
indefinitely.

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The LDS church doesn't like any
Indian stating that what they

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have.
I'm learning.

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I'm learning this, OK, I'm
learning this.

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It's a half and half.
Half are like we always knew it.

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The other half are like, you
have nothing to offer us.

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There's nothing the same.
And we could have been, we could

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have been jerks about it in the
Midu society.

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We really could have.
We could have went lockstep arm

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in arm with the rabbis and we
have enough evidence from before

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1823.
We could have said, oh, it's

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spiritual appropriation.
You knew we were going into a

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genocide and you stole it from
us because we have lodges.

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We we do things the same.
And where do we get that?

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Well, the Book of Mormon came
from us.

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It's a reflection of us.
Boy, they just can't handle it.

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Yeah.
Sorry to seem a little

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aggressive, it's just really
they started this back in 2018

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when I was first picked as a
headman.

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Gotcha.
There was a, there was A and I

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was, and I was tasked to speak
about UN by This is by the

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William Kamanda Council of North
America.

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Chief Phil Lange Junior is a
part of it.

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I was asked to speak and share
'cause I talk pretty Dang good.

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UN resolution a six 1295 a
declaration on the rights of

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indigenous persons.
And in there it says every child

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has the right to the identity of
their parent.

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No, no state can diminish or
remove a culture.

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And and they outline these 40
something provisions and I was,

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I was pressing them.
And so their, their, their way

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to try to silence me was oh,
he's a, he's a, he's not Indian.

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We made it through that.
R Glenn Melville, the regional

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director of the Bureau of Indian
Affairs, had to write a three

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page letter where he had to list
all my ancestors and all the

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roles just to shut those people
up.

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And now it's the Mormons who are
choosing to do it.

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I am my dad's son.
And if this is the Hill, we can

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certainly go to civil court too,
because that's public shame.

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OK.
And all I'm doing is speaking

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truth from the Midu lives.
No, I get it.

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So here's here's what we can do
if you want.

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I'm more than willing to put
into the show notes any

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documentation you got that that
shows who you are.

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I have no problems doing that.
We can throw that in the show

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notes and people can look at it
for themselves.

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If if you think that would help.
I I don't have any.

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Yeah, we.
On the on the Heartland website,

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we put in a credentials page.
We even put my college

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transcripts.
I who would do that, right?

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I put my military records, whole
thing, all my stuff is there.

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They just won't go reference.
So we'll give you that link as

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well.
And I just, we're loading down

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my dad's membership record.
We're we're gonna load the

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letter from our Glenn Melville.
You know, it's like, but at the

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end of the day, there will be
liability.

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Sure.
There will be accountability

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because it has to understand
that in the state of Utah,

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that's a criminal offense.
Sure.

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I sent him the statute, so I
appreciate.

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Now ask your questions.
I'll shut up.

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Hey, we're good.
You're good, you're good.

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More of you and less of me is
always gonna be a good thing

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here.
So let's let's, let's keep that

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in mind.
So I want to go back to a couple

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of the videos that you did with
the Heartland Institute.

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Was that correct?
Heartland Institute I.

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Think, Jody, What's it called?
It's the heartland, you know?

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I know what you mean.
OK.

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All right.
I'll I'll correct that later.

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I'm new to this too man.
You you make an impassioned plea

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in one of your videos in which
you say Please remember us.

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Explain to me what it looks like
in your mind's eye.

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What does it mean for the the
Gentiles to remember the remnant

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Lehigh seed?
What does that look like?

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Well, the first thing is to, is
to, is to recognize that for the

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first time we're the 1st
generation born after the 78

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anti Indian laws that are now
educated and gone through our

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careers and, and we're confident
enough to speak that you can't

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take something away, right?
And so we're trying to share our

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sacred things.
And as we share the sacred

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things, help us keep that alive.
We don't get language schools,

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we don't get the ability to, you
know, get help with our

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traditions.
And we know that we're the last

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generation.
We are the, unless we change

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something, we're the very last
ones because of the impact of

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blood quantum in our
communities.

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Now even communities like like
in Michigan, the Chip one

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Michigan are lineal descent,
even though they're lineal

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descent like every nation in the
world, just as an example, the

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2nd that they cease to have a
member over 1/4, which doesn't

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mean anything.
It's fake.

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It's fake.
You have children from a mother

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and a father that then they
they'll dissolve their identity.

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They'll say you're not federally
recognized anymore and yet

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they're there.
So we're saying we need you to

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observe what's happening
happening to us.

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We need you to observe that we
are the most impoverished

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communities outside of Africa.
We're under it a sub agency and

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manage like property.
You know, if, if we have land

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and we want to leave it to our
children, we have to go to a

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hearing and get permission from
the federal government.

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You know, it's, they're like
just take it away.

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They just take it away.
And, and so that's what we're

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saying is, is specifically to
the church, like we're not,

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we're not Americans and
Canadians, we may be in your

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camp, but we are nations.
We have an identity, we have a

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history.
We have a history and it's and

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it's beautiful and it shouldn't
disappear.

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It shouldn't go away because
when it goes away, right, who

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will there be to tell you the
stories of how we were who every

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15 to 20 years they open up the
scrolls and they look through

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them and go through them.
And you know, wouldn't it be a

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shame if, if they just
disappeared?

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Wouldn't it be a shame?
So, so I'm, I'm going to try to

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restate this and, and tell me if
I have this right.

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So when you say remember us,
what you're saying is recognize

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our plight.
Is that a a good way of putting

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it?
Look at.

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Look at.
Recognize our plight and and

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recognize that when we seek to
change it, support us.

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You know, we when we unify and
speak with one voice, which is

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coming very soon, right?
Be our brother and sister in

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that regard, because we we're,
we're, we're protecting and

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safeguarding the right of our
children and grandchildren that

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have the same identity as us and
to experience the same things as

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us.
And yet they're in the United

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States right now.
They're trying to turn

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reservations into 4th
municipalities until they

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dissolve them into in as as
counties.

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And and this is this is a
challenge.

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Gotcha.
This is a challenge.

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Gotcha.
Now up at Turtle Mountain, we're

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running, we've been running
candidates and, and, and we

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almost won, you know, where's
every community split trying to

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hold on?
There are, though, half the

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community, because of boarding
schools has no remembrance.

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They don't know the language,
they don't know the culture.

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They don't, they don't know the
traditions at, at all.

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They go to the pow wow and with
numbers and that's it.

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They they think, you know, and
and they but they like they

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don't want anything associated
with what it is that that was to

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be Indian, but they want to get
the paycheck to be an Indian,

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which generally is like nothing,
but they just want that the

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other half is, is fighting to
keep the fire going.

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The beautiful things that now
before it's it's gone.

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Yeah.
And the last ember in the fire,

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you know, is out.
We're like, come on, let's get

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some breath to it here and let's
give some breath to it.

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We're United a border and below
it.

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So, so recognize the plight and
then when when time comes, stand

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with you as you have your bats.
OK, listen to, you know, we've

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lost, you know, listen, we've
lost.

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We had, we had appropriation of
our property, appropriation of

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our family, appropriation of our
culture.

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We had the, the complete
destruction, almost destruction

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of our language, you know, and,
and, and so the last thing that

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we're clinging to is our
spiritual identity.

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And and that's gonna disappear
if we don't speak out now.

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And so you know, currently this
summer, all of the what's been

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let you know the lodge.
They followed the seven fires

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migration took everything W
they're all going back to the MC

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Ma nation.
They're gonna look at what's

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left.
And and we, we we This is why

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we're I'm speaking out.
Is that the spiritual things

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that we all talk about in the
traditional lodges and in the in

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together that they're they're so
beautiful that there is one

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people that shares that in
common with us.

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And and they can go on YouTube
and see enough elders from many

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nations that you can con YouTube
and they share the same story as

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you.
I'm not saying anything that

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they haven't said or our
ancestors haven't said.

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You just didn't know their
language or you.

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You threw them in jail and took
everything from them if they did

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talk right.
No, that makes sense.

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So the other thing you had said
was help us gather.

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How is it members of the church
can can help you gather?

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Yeah, absolutely.
So we're asking for we, we don't

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want to control the foundations
because then people say, oh,

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you're doing things for monetary
gain.

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We're the most impoverished
people, guys like me that work

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to get degrees.
All the money's gone every month

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because you're helping too many
people, right.

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Do you think the federal
government helps us?

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No, they, they, you know,
reservations have 30 million

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dollars, $100 million disappear
overnight.

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And you go through the community
and nothing's any different.

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But you see the, the chairman
and councils which have no, they

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have no auditing, you know, they
go in and out every two years

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and they get the bigger houses
and the bigger trucks and the

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bigger bellies.
It's just the way it is.

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This is a system they taught us
and, and the greed is there.

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It's like it's the way it is.
But you know, we need

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foundations put together and we
need funding support for our

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people to travel together
because we will call them back

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together.
And when we call them back

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together, we need them to be
able to get there.

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We have elders that are
traveling around the world.

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We're actually going with the
Jewish rabbis and they're

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helping.
But we're going around the world

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to find, to speak with the the
indigenous groups that we share

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something in common.
They've been doing it for 40

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years.
Chief Phil Lane himself has

451
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,840
gondola 2.
If you go to Four Winds

452
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,520
Institute, fwii.net, just Google
Chief Phil Lane Junior, he's got

453
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,280
a link.
It's like hundreds of

454
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,680
communities internationally.
Like after this call, I'm going

455
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,880
to be speaking with the King of
the Maori in New Zealand, right?

456
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,080
They all and, and their story is
Jesus came off a boat walking on

457
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,400
the water like before he came to
us.

458
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,720
Like it's totally wild and it's
totally wild.

459
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,640
So, you know, that's what we're
talking about is, is, is as much

460
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,920
as you advocate, you know, if we
call senators and we call

461
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,000
congressmen, they say you're too
small of a demographic.

462
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,640
Well, then if that's the case,
we're going to disappear.

463
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,960
Why are we small?
You sterilize 60% of our women

464
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,760
in the 60s and then you like
admitted it and there was no

465
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,800
repercussions internationally.
Why are we small?

466
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,400
We had 18 million in that you
recorded in in 1800 and we had

467
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,600
290,000 in 1900.
Why are we small?

468
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,440
And just because we're small
doesn't mean that we don't have

469
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,160
a right to our identity.
I guarantee you you're the

470
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,560
renegade.
I guarantee you that if, if you

471
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,080
were the last citizen in the
United States, you'd be holding

472
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040
up that Constitution wrapped
around you and screaming that

473
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:08,320
you had rights.
Would, and I would and I would

474
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,360
and I would applaud you for it
because you're my you're my

475
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:13,880
brother.
Your ancestors are buried in the

476
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,840
same dirt as mine.
You're made from that earth.

477
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,920
You're, you're literally,
they're walking prayers made in

478
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,120
flesh.
You're no different than me.

479
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,280
And our people have to heal that
way too, right?

480
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,360
But we have to swing a sharp
sword at first to get you to

481
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,200
recognize we exist and what's
happening to us is not normal.

482
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,040
Why don't we have a seat in the
United Nations?

483
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,040
Why don't we have a voice?
No one knows.

484
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,360
But at night, we know 1920, all
the nations came together from

485
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,600
the Indian League of Nations
requested and were told no by

486
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,040
Britain, Imperial Britain and
the United States.

487
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,560
In the 1940s, we did it again
and we said we'll speak with one

488
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,480
nation, 200 tribal communities
that that they call nations,

489
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:58,120
right, 77 languages, OK, That
they picked three men to

490
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:00,280
represent them and they
submitted a petition that the

491
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,840
majority of the United Nations
said yes, and the United States

492
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,520
vetoed it.
We just want to see it at the

493
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,240
table of the human family.
It's so hard to ask to manage

494
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,080
our own economic welfare, manage
our own resources, manage our

495
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,200
own marketplaces, manage our own
supply chain and logistics,

496
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:23,800
manage our own communication.
Is this OK?

497
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,400
Is it OK manage our own
memberships?

498
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,600
Why do we have to go and
register my my sons and my

499
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,800
daughters?
I had to go to the the Lyndon de

500
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,520
Harlay.
He's a cousin of my grandma.

501
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,200
He's the Superintendent in
Belcourt.

502
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,000
He went to call the guy.
I had to register my children

503
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,240
with the Bureau of Indian
Affairs.

504
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,640
Like they even manage our
citizenship, you know, and they

505
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,960
say, and they'll say, no, you
manage it.

506
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,360
Yeah.
Because the ones who have made

507
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:52,800
it lineal, like the Cherokee.
And people should consider that

508
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,800
when they attacked me, they had
like a a chief just in this

509
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:01,280
decade that was like 1 one that
1-12 hundred and 64th Cherokee.

510
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,120
OK, these these fake numbers.
Yeah, like 1/8.

511
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:06,920
I got as much as Jon Ross in the
1800s.

512
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,000
But I got more than that because
on my pedigree, they

513
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,440
legitimately wrote zeros 3
generations back were 15 miles

514
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,320
from the border.
And the the the Indians on the

515
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,360
top are called Canadian Indians
given a zero.

516
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,880
And the child born in America
was called 50%.

517
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,080
What is blood quant?
What is this?

518
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,400
Gotcha.
What?

519
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,240
What are you talking?
What are you talking about, man?

520
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,840
Gotcha.
So, yeah, that.

521
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,200
So when we win in Turtle
Mountain this fall, which we

522
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,640
will, Jared Peltier, he's an
Okeechee da from the Bear Clan,

523
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,160
Makwa Dudem.
And and he will win the he's

524
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,240
it's not even close.
Right now, the heart of Turtle

525
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,360
Island is Turtle Mountain.
And we're gonna restart in the

526
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,120
heart and we're gonna call
everybody home.

527
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,720
We're gonna call everybody and
we're gonna restart.

528
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,600
That's what we're doing.
Where is home?

529
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,640
When you say call everybody
home, are you talking about some

530
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,840
place physical?
Are you talking about a

531
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,720
homecoming?
What are what are you talking

532
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,480
about there?
It's a.

533
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,840
It's a.
Spiritual homecoming, a cultural

534
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,520
homecoming.
It's a, it's a, it's a

535
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,600
homecoming of a, of a tribal
family.

536
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:07,840
Gotcha.
Gotcha.

537
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,600
Now we that we, we.
We we shared things in common

538
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,640
for a long time and we shouldn't
let the last 175 years erase

539
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,400
that because.
We're.

540
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,880
One generation.
This is it.

541
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,840
We.
We are it.

542
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,480
We're it.
They they won't exist in.

543
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,600
In in 20 years, there won't be
no more.

544
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,280
True.
OK, so when?

545
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,600
You when you make that call to
to help us gather it's and and

546
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,640
correct me if I'm wrong here.
I just want to make sure I'm

547
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,640
understanding how it is you're
saying the best way that that we

548
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,160
can help there.
It's it's monetary funds.

549
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,000
Is that correct?
It's funds to help you be able

550
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,880
to get a place to another.
Political support, right?

551
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,680
We need political support.
We need, that's the first, first

552
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,560
and foremost, we need support
with our with our elders

553
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,680
traveling to International Court
of Justice, to other tribal

554
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,360
groups around the world as we
sew together a global unity.

555
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,720
There's always, it's always
gonna be money to move things.

556
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,160
Do you think that we have any
money?

557
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,600
This is the.
This is the.

558
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,880
America, we give you everything.
Oh, OK, You make $8 trillion a

559
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,920
year off our things and you give
back 2 billion.

560
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,440
Well, let's just talk.
Math.

561
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,000
They report it.
Off the resources that are

562
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:37,240
tribal owned, they make 8 with
AT OK and they and they and they

563
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,760
give back 2 billion
collectively.

564
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,480
I I think you should just people
should understand there's enough

565
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,800
to keep the lights on.
Most of the reservations don't

566
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,720
have clean running water.
They said we had to have these

567
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,480
things where they take children.
Now they can't take the children

568
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,600
the the way they used to.
So now they take them with

569
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,320
social services.
And in Canada, we're 3% of the

570
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,160
and I can say that my family are
there.

571
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,920
Right my dudamog.
Is there that they're 3% of the

572
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,240
population, but they're 80% of
the children in foster care

573
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,280
because you don't have
something, so we take your kids

574
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,640
away because of that now.
Why don't we have something?

575
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,600
If you.
Take everything.

576
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,680
From a people and put them in a
place and then don't let them

577
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,040
manage the resources and you
manage them and then you don't

578
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,520
pay them what they're due.
There's no negotiation on it.

579
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,280
And then you justify taking
their kids because they're in

580
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,000
poverty.
What are you talking about?

581
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,160
We have 100.
Thousand women that have died

582
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,000
since 2000, that's when they
they finally started recording.

583
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,640
We're screaming for decades.
This is what I'm talking about

584
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,080
supporting us.
It it politically, if an

585
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,720
American or a Canadian comes in
our reserves and commit a crime

586
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,600
and leave, kill somebody, rape
somebody and leaves, we can't

587
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,720
prosecute them.
And the federal government says

588
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,040
and call me a liar, the federal
government says they don't have

589
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,240
the resources to manage it.
There's no accountability.

590
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,720
But if we go off and do
something, they come on full

591
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,600
force.
SWAT teams drag us off if they

592
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,920
try to put think about this, Do
I have the same rights as you,

593
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,240
Dave?
If you own land in America, you

594
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,760
say, yeah, absolutely.
If you own land in America and

595
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,000
someone wants to build something
across your land, you can say

596
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,800
no, right?
You can go on your land and say

597
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,960
no, OK, And you can absolutely
for.

598
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,600
US.
What?

599
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,040
What was happening at Standing
Rock?

600
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,480
This is tribal owned land, yeah.
Absolutely owned by.

601
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Indians that are standing on
their land.

602
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,320
And they don't have the.
Say and they got drug off people

603
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,800
with like Staffs.
And drums.

604
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,520
Got drug off by SWAT teams and
dogs.

605
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,000
Do we have the same rights?
Because they're gonna

606
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,080
government's gonna put things
through the government's

607
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,000
control, the Bureau of Land
Management controls.

608
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,800
Why we Why can't we talk?
About it so.

609
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,560
So.
Now this is kind of interesting

610
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,760
to me 'cause I'm a land surveyor
by profession.

611
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,000
So I understand.
Eminent domain I.

612
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,240
Think it's a horrible.
Thing I understand its purpose

613
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,920
when it was first put in for the
railroads.

614
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,360
I get it.
But I don't.

615
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,040
See much call for it now and so.
When you bring up the.

616
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,920
BLM.
Does the BLM still have

617
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,480
jurisdiction over parts of the
reservations?

618
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,200
Absolutely.
They're they're all through it.

619
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Yeah.
That's the thing that we can't

620
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,720
understand.
Why does the Department of the

621
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,000
Interior, why do they have such
latitude with us?

622
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640
And and and furthermore, think
about how horrible this is.

623
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,840
No, because of the call.
We have to wait.

624
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,560
OK?
I know you gotta wait.

625
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,720
Hold on.
You'll be OK, buddy.

626
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Think about this.
I carry a power of attorney for

627
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,280
the land deeds that my family
got.

628
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,520
I get a.
Habit because.

629
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,400
I got 1/8 blood quantum.
They write these laws right?

630
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,280
You can have it.
Tried this lineal descent every.

631
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,400
Oh well, the what happens to the
land with my kids.

632
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,040
They're 116th according to them,
right?

633
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040
If you go back and you.
Say common sense, the Canadian

634
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,760
what parents are 100% their kids
100% then they're one eighth.

635
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,320
We just push it one generation,
right?

636
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,720
Or if they, you know, so my
because they're 116th, they

637
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,480
don't qualify to inherit the
land.

638
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,239
So what happens?
They take it, they seize it.

639
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,800
They hope they don't even let
you have a hearing.

640
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,199
So I'm like the last generation
holding my family's deeds.

641
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,639
And you say this is a cross.
This is a cross that we are

642
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,600
being, we are being destroyed
and made to disappear.

643
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,480
And most Americans, they think
that that that, that we don't

644
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,800
exist anymore.
And the ones who do?

645
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,840
Know they think that we're like
sovereign nations.

646
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,320
Alright, what's sovereignty?
Tell me where.

647
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,280
What's sovereignty?
I would think it would.

648
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,440
Be the opportunity to plot your
own course and destiny, and you

649
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,040
can't.
And so.

650
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,760
What I'm saying?
Remember, remember our

651
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,320
traditions, OK?
OK, that that.

652
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Makes sense.
So in terms of, of, of

653
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:07,400
remembering it's or, or helping
you gather it's to stand with

654
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:13,680
you politically, you need some
financial support and as well as

655
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,480
remembering you, understanding
the plight you're in and then

656
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,800
standing with you when when
those times come now, yes,

657
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,440
'cause they're gonna.
Come this sounds like these are.

658
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,280
Battles that are gonna have to
take place in a courtroom to

659
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,160
some extent, right?
When you start dealing with

660
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,440
eminent domain, things that
happened at Standing Rock, that

661
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,200
sort of thing, those are court
cases, right?

662
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,560
That we don't go in their
courts.

663
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,360
Anymore listen, I, I, I filed a
a temporary restrict we have

664
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,200
fought for, you know, they say
that the is the Constitution,

665
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,520
the supreme law in the land.
It should be.

666
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,120
You'd say yes.
Yeah, yeah.

667
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,920
So how come Article 6 says the
treaties of the supreme law in

668
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,480
the land?
How come that's the case and yet

669
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,920
we how many treaties promised
something that was never

670
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,760
provided.
I can use my family as an

671
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,080
example that.
We have.

672
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,720
United States Supreme Court
cases.

673
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,280
Even even 18. 99 Jones V Meehan.
Supreme Court cases.

674
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,680
That say that, you know that
they have to be fulfilled.

675
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,800
You have congresses making
treaties that aren't abrogated

676
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,560
or taken away, that say they
have to be fulfilled.

677
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,360
And then you have the executive
branch just not doing it.

678
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,800
So you go to court and they say,
yeah, and you go to court and

679
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,960
say yes.
And then they say you got to go

680
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,480
to civil court and get damages.
Well, here's the thing.

681
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,240
The United States has unlimited
money.

682
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,800
We are families.
That if everything taken away

683
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,840
that we impoverished generations
with just one court case.

684
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,560
So we.
Have Article 9 of the 1863

685
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,320
treaty that says Red Bear's
family's going to get a

686
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,520
reservation.
Now, they certainly, they

687
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,200
certainly use the 11,000,000
acres.

688
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,720
It's like northwest or north,
yeah, northwest Minnesota.

689
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,920
So if they don't provide that,
like if you sell your home and

690
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,400
they say they're going to pay
you and they don't pay you.

691
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,560
Wouldn't you take your home
back?

692
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,400
Right, So so.
So, so we pleaded for that and

693
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,560
then they added it into the 1892
Macumber agreement with another

694
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,280
people and put us there to wait
for because we only had to go a

695
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,160
short distance for it and then
never provided it.

696
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160
So we got two treaties now,
right?

697
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,960
Then we got a Court of Claims
case.

698
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,400
Then we got a congressional act
in 1971 that says you're

699
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,200
recognized to speak for your
rights.

700
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,440
And then we say what?
How many times do we have to

701
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,880
take the executive branch to
prison or to, to court before

702
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,680
we're bankrupt and we can't do
it anymore?

703
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,200
And the tribes have given up.
You know, you look at the, the

704
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,120
Oneida in, in New York and they
took them to court and they, and

705
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,400
because they bought land, they
said, well, we'll just buy our

706
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,680
land back.
And when they bought it it.

707
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,840
Should have fallen into their
jurisdiction, right?

708
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,400
Yeah, right.
But they still get taxed on it

709
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,400
even though the court says they
can't be, so they'd have to go

710
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,320
back.
Why?

711
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,520
Why would we deal with that?
Like what?

712
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,240
What's the point here?
Right?

713
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,320
So.
If if you can't get it fixed

714
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,960
through through the courts.
What's your proposal?

715
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,200
For fixing it then 'cause it
sounds like you want nothing to

716
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,880
do with the courts at this
point, right?

717
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,200
They're they're.
Listen if if.

718
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,280
No, and I'll get perfect
example.

719
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,520
It's important.
Would it be OK for Germany today

720
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,080
to utilize laws that the Nazis
put into place in their decision

721
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,200
making today?
No, no, it'd be a little

722
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,280
horrific.
Then how come if everybody knows

723
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,320
that from 1789 to 1920, only
white men who owned land had had

724
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,040
had had rights to vote right And
they had to own land like you

725
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,960
had to own land and everything
was tiered for those that class

726
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,120
it.
That's no difference than the

727
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,800
Nazis right in all of their
their court cases and policies

728
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,640
and everything are written with
a genocidal from 1823.

729
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,240
God bless Joseph.
Hey, he safeguarded something

730
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:53,560
right when we were going into
the deep dive, every single

731
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,800
policy was to destroy this
people genocide through ethnic

732
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,520
and cultural genocide, even
familial take your family away.

733
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,400
If you know in that period that
that is, then how come those are

734
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,240
all the those are all the laws,
the case laws that are used to

735
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,960
to cite why we can't.
You know.

736
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Think about that.
We even had one in the last 10

737
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,040
years where they cited the
Doctrine of Discovery.

738
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,280
And yet, when the Pope.
Says speaks against that.

739
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Does that mean that goes away?
And that's a So the courts

740
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,400
today, the only way they can
justify it is to use the case

741
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,840
law from the 1800s, which is a
period no different than the

742
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,840
1930s Germany.
Andrew Jackson killed more

743
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,160
Indians than Adolf Hitler did,
didn't Jews?

744
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,760
That's just a fact.
It's not.

745
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,960
Even.
Disputed.

746
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,120
Yet?
We got to look at his face in

747
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,120
the $20 bill.
You.

748
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,560
Look at George.
Washington, he murdered 28 out

749
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,400
of 30 Seneca villages, every
man, woman and dog that he

750
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,760
skinned, the leggings, the
skinned, the warriors legs.

751
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,560
And these are still in the
Smithsonian and he's on this

752
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,880
$1.00 bill.
You don't think that's slamming

753
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,200
in the face for those that wake
up and realize what's going on,

754
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,360
It's like, what's the point?
So if we say, if we just say

755
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,960
we're sovereign and we have
international partners.

756
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,760
And we had the the 1st.
Thing they'll say, and this is

757
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,480
another thing we need help with.
Here we go.

758
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,280
Here we go, we made connection.
Well, this is a totally

759
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,440
different topic and I love it.
Thank you so much.

760
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,920
We made contact with royal
families in Europe who carry a

761
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,600
lot of guilt because it's their
families that killed millions of

762
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,400
people around the world.
And they have put together

763
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,080
things that are helping third
world countries to stand on

764
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,200
their own, right.
Prior to this, third world

765
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,480
countries like us, if you wanted
to be sovereign, they'd say,

766
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,760
well, you don't have anything.
Fine.

767
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,920
We'll cut everything off.
We'll cut off your marketplace

768
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,440
access.
We'll cut off your digital

769
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,680
communication access.
We'll, we'll cut off your supply

770
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,320
chain and logistics access.
We'll, we'll cut off your SWIFT

771
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,280
access.
We'll cut off your banking

772
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,120
application access, right?
This is what they.

773
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,480
Do so.
You're not sovereign.

774
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,640
That's too.
They say it to us too.

775
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:55,240
Hey, you want to be sovereign?
We'll just turn all this stuff

776
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,080
off.
These things.

777
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,760
Exist and we need them.
We want to, we want to buy them

778
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,320
and we want to give them to our
communities for free.

779
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,360
We want to host ourselves out of
Greenland under GDPR so that

780
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,640
they can't track and monitor
everything we're doing because

781
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,240
all they do is these things to
like, like ruin our lives.

782
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,960
We want our own Amazon.
It exists.

783
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,720
We want our own supply chain and
logistic applications for our

784
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:23,720
trucking companies to
communicate with our

785
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:26,440
communities.
We'd like our communities, and

786
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,120
this is a fact.
We would like our communities

787
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,640
that are spread from coast to
coast.

788
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:33,920
To be able to speak as.
One voice and interact with each

789
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,600
other like your communities do.
And we'd like to do it side by

790
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,760
side with you.
In fairness.

791
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,960
Meaning we'd like to decide what
the value of our timber is.

792
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,440
We would like to decide.
Right now there's no

793
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,120
negotiation.
We would like to decide what you

794
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,400
do with our water.
We'd like to decide what you do

795
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,920
with the minerals that are in
the ground.

796
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,680
We would like to have a decision
with what you do with our oil

797
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,440
and what percentage we keep of
it.

798
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,600
We would like to control
progress in our communities.

799
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:01,800
How can you get progress and we
don't?

800
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,000
Oh, we get progress if we leave
the reservation and go into your

801
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,600
communities and forget that we
ever existed.

802
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,200
I cannot forget my 7
grandfathers and grandmothers

803
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,760
for generations.
Why would I do that?

804
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,840
Why would you ask somebody to do
that?

805
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,800
Yeah, No, I, I.
See what you're saying there?

806
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,760
And then bad the bad guy.
To bring it up.

807
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,480
So we have these softwares that
we want to buy now.

808
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,680
Right now we have tribal
communities that gathered and

809
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,360
met from the Okanogan and the
Salish and the Denitah, the

810
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,000
Denay.
These are in Canada and the

811
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,800
Salto.
And we actually sat down and met

812
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,280
with this royal family from
Germany.

813
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,240
We.
Talked about these.

814
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:42,400
Things and you know what the the
we the because we get our monies

815
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,840
from the federal governments,
we.

816
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,000
Can't use it to buy these.
Things we're forced to use their

817
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,680
things we want to.
Have our own.

818
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,520
Systems and tools so you can't
put the noose around our neck

819
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,080
anywhere.
OK, you want.

820
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,080
To blossom.
Wait, we're.

821
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,800
How do we?
How do you how do you have

822
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,200
prosperity?
If you never have the

823
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:08,080
opportunity to have prosperity.
Right, right.

824
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,880
All right.
Let me ask.

825
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,760
This question because.
I think it's a fair.

826
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,840
Question to ask and you can, you
know, if you don't want to go

827
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,560
here, I can edit this out.
I don't believe in playing

828
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,280
gotcha games or anything like
that.

829
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,320
But.
Sometimes there has to be.

830
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,000
I I'm a big believer.
In that one of the.

831
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,560
Beauties of the restored gospel
is is that by embracing those

832
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,400
principles, while it certainly
is not guaranteed and I I am

833
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,680
cautious to never turn the
gospel into a gospel, a

834
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,840
prosperity gospel.
There is something to be said

835
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,120
about being and learning and
living correct principles that

836
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,840
help foster good outcomes in in
life.

837
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,320
Do you see?
Anything that you need that that

838
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,920
your community needs help with
with that the gospel being

839
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,800
brought to you What in your
opinion and and again, you don't

840
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,280
have to ask the answer this in
your opinion.

841
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,240
Do you feel like there has been
a concerted effort after Joseph

842
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:20,560
Smith, after Brigham Young to to
really take the gospel to to

843
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,880
Lehigh's seed?
No.

844
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,080
The the opportunity that they
had the.

845
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,680
They had a.
Big opportunity in the 60s when

846
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,840
we got our voice back.
OK, we did.

847
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,920
We got the right to vote.
And people think you had a

848
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,560
right.
To vote because of the 1924

849
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,840
Citizenship Act?
That's a joke.

850
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,440
They wouldn't have passed our 68
Civil Rights Act if we had,

851
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,160
right?
So they had.

852
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,160
They made a mistake.
They no and no they have not.

853
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,000
So they made a mistake by taking
kids, they applied to be a part

854
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,360
of the same program, the same
federal law to remove kids from

855
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,400
communities and shattered
families even more So what we,

856
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,120
the greatest need we have right
now because of our greatest

857
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:06,440
issue is so no, that's no.
And that's a hard no #1 #2 even

858
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,000
our traditionals in there are
doing the same things that that

859
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,920
that Mormons are doing and were
unsuccessful.

860
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,040
And it's because of these other
scars.

861
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,080
We have the highest rates of
drug abuse, the highest rates of

862
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,600
alcoholism.
We have the high, but which

863
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,400
again is due to the highest
rates of poverty, which again,

864
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,160
because of that poverty, it's
just because we have no economic

865
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,160
control and because we have no
economic control of our

866
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,880
resources.
And we have barely, you were put

867
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,360
in places there, there's
nothing.

868
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,680
Then then you also have, you
know, 8 out of 10 families don't

869
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,400
have their children because
they're in poverty and the

870
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,360
states come and take them and
put them in foster care.

871
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,280
So we have we we have an
immediate need for drug

872
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,280
rehabilitation support, which
they don't provide for us.

873
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,320
And we need that therapy and
counseling support independent

874
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,800
of the federal government.
They won't do it.

875
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,600
You want the make foundations.
We need we if the Latter Day

876
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,280
Saints want the gospel to come
in, you gotta lay a foundation

877
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,680
of healing.
We need you to come in with and,

878
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:15,040
and not to take more from us.
We need therapists, we need, we

879
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:21,720
need alcohol and drug assistance
and we need it for free and we

880
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:25,400
need it right now.
We need, we need help with

881
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,000
housing.
You know, Turtle Mountain is 200

882
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,320
empty homes because they are not
livable high rate of

883
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,040
unemployment, a high rate of of
homelessness.

884
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,480
We need, we need help with
housing.

885
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,800
We don't need big things.
We need little things, little

886
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,560
things together, community.
We need housing.

887
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,800
We there's not enough.
They had the internal mountain,

888
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,960
they had the budget $300,000 in
total for housing total 40,000

889
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,400
people.
OK, so so we need.

890
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,720
So if you.
Go down in the middle, you're

891
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,840
just trying to take, no, we
can't get these things and it's

892
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,280
across the board, all of them.
And if they won't help us?

893
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,280
Do it.
We're going to unite.

894
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,600
Get our own systems, our own
tools, manage your own things

895
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,880
and let them be on camera, on
TV, coming and shooting us and

896
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,160
killing us because we're trying
to save our children.

897
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,600
We need counselors.
We need drug and alcohol therapy

898
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,960
and help assistance.
We need housing.

899
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,800
Take desperately.
Desperately, we need these

900
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,240
things, we need jobs, but we're
not going to get jobs unless,

901
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,000
unless you stand by us when we
say it's enough.

902
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:33,440
This can't continue like this.
I hope that makes sense.

903
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,320
No, that makes a lot.
And then you can talk.

904
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,280
About bringing the Gospel.
But right now it's why does the

905
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,800
Catholic have a bad name and the
Protestants have a bad They took

906
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,480
the kids, they destroyed
families.

907
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,960
You can't blame these people for
being the way they are.

908
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:50,080
We are, you know, it's horrible.
You look at it's horrible and

909
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,440
it's not fair, you know?
It's not.

910
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,520
Fair, it's 8 out of 10 families
don't have their child.

911
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,320
So did it stop?
And they their justification

912
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,200
again is you can't care for
them, you can't take care of

913
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,800
them.
You didn't give my community

914
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,520
enough funding to help me take
care of them.

915
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,800
You won't let me.
Start business.

916
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,320
We had a manufacturing plant and
my my great uncle, who was the

917
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,040
the the chairman of the
International International

918
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,000
Reserve Depository Bank of Hong
Kong, had a massive investment

919
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,360
to come into reservations.
And and it was to help.

920
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,720
With manufacturing.
Gotcha, Bureau of Indian Affairs

921
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:30,360
said no.
If you can't create jobs.

922
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:34,880
How do you have?
We're we are the proof of

923
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,440
communism.
That it fails we.

924
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,760
Are the proof that it fails we
literally you want to take the

925
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,480
USSR?
It's alive and well in the

926
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,320
Bureau of Indian Affairs.
Wow, do you have?

927
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,240
No, I I can, I can see that.
So you need.

928
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,760
You need help.
With with.

929
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,120
Therapists with with drug and
alcohol abuse.

930
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,400
You know and.
And that would come in the form

931
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,520
of of counseling for that.
That's right.

932
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,080
Housing the.
The jobs thing I think would

933
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,120
probably come once you had your
own systems up to be honest with

934
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,720
you Now I I I up in northern.
Germany.

935
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,600
Listen, brother, in northern
Germany, there's a there's a

936
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,160
house maker that makes a
fireproof cylinder that can fit

937
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,800
inside a TPI.
Laugh about that.

938
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:20,960
OK?
I just laugh about it.

939
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,240
It's a fireproof cylinder that's
honeycombed in the walls

940
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:28,000
collects water it it has a
flushable toilet.

941
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,960
It gathers the waste underneath.
It runs running water.

942
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,120
It's solar powered and and is
totally you have ATV on the

943
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,360
wall.
It has a bedroom and a kitchen

944
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,720
and a bathroom.
And again, you just come and

945
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:43,040
pick it up right $10,000 for one
of these.

946
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,920
So is homelessness caused?
Oh, I think it is right.

947
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,920
We also in Germany, the greatest
thing I ever saw and we're going

948
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,360
to put in place in Turtle
Mountain is that they fund all

949
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,840
the people who need to have jobs
through recycling and, and waste

950
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,400
collection.
They have sections of the

951
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,840
community who go to every
single, this is German.

952
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,560
They do it every single, every
single house and collect every

953
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,840
single thing you have.
They take it to a center.

954
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,280
They split it up into plastics
and metals and aluminum.

955
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,000
And then they now they have
something to sell and then they

956
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,560
they, they bring those together
and they sell them and then they

957
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,160
fund the entire thing.
We.

958
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,280
Want to do that we.
Got told no, we can't do that.

959
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Well we have elders that never
no one ever sees them.

960
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,800
We want to have our children
from 18 to 20 being focused in

961
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,560
two ways community service.
You want to go to college, we'll

962
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,480
pay for you to go to college.
If if we can get help even

963
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,080
standing one of these up people
going to houses every day and

964
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,840
and helping show the American
how to recycle, really, because

965
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,480
we will have such a a vast
wealth of resources just from

966
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,480
our own waste.
And we have now employed people

967
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,200
to collect them and divide them
so that we can utilize them as a

968
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,880
resource.
And it's done in Germany.

969
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,800
We're not making something new.
It's amazing.

970
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:02,640
It's incredible.
Yeah.

971
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,120
So this is what we're talking
about.

972
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:08,960
Tell tell me about.
The mechanisms that you see that

973
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,000
you would need to have in place
to make this work, right?

974
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,960
Like if someone came to you with
all these volunteers to say,

975
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,720
hey, we're here to help stand a
house for you.

976
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,160
You know, here's some therapists
and some doctors.

977
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,240
How are How?
Would.

978
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:25,240
Those resources get
administered.

979
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,720
Who's going to do that?
Absolutely.

980
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,360
So, so we need committees and,
and this is going to take in

981
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,240
every.
So This is why we said, you

982
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:38,040
know, we need you to set up the
organizations good, harder, good

983
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,680
willed people.
And then we need a voice that's

984
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:44,760
equal in those committees.
But we need to do it together

985
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,480
because it's the only way we're
going to heal and be able to sit

986
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,840
together.
OK, in each community.

987
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,040
You need the and they're there.
They're already there trying.

988
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,360
They just have no funding.
There are people, there are

989
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,680
people trying every day to get
housing, to get drug, drug

990
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,520
assistance, to get alcohol
assistance, you know, to, to, to

991
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,160
get employment.
They're trying.

992
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,160
They don't have anyone to go to.
No one, no one cares.

993
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,320
And so they quit.
They get up and they move out

994
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,000
into the city and then it's
over.

995
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:13,840
And you say?
That's a shame.

996
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,000
That's a real shame.
That's is.

997
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,800
That the destiny.
Of our people.

998
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,760
So we need we need you and we
need us.

999
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,560
We need we need that we need
together.

1000
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,840
That's why you know, I no one
ever I'll never be associated

1001
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,240
personally with owning any
foundation.

1002
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:33,560
No one will ever accuse me of of
because this is the need they

1003
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:39,600
help.
Help you know we.

1004
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,360
Need that.
We need to and.

1005
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,400
Then we need to reach out and
buy these applications

1006
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,080
eventually that we, when once
we're there that we can use.

1007
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,680
And by the way, it's gonna be a
heck of a lot easier to talk to

1008
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,480
somebody about the gospel, which
is reminding them of their own

1009
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,640
tradition, right?
And they're capable of.

1010
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,920
Hearing you right.
Right, No, Joseph, Joseph made a

1011
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,040
statement that was very similar
to that, that you know, it's

1012
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,720
hard to to concentrate on
spiritual things if you're, if

1013
00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:09,520
you're hungry.
So I, I totally understand that.

1014
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,520
So this organization that you're
envisioning here, is this an

1015
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,440
organization that is set up on
the outside of the reservations

1016
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,360
or on the inside?
We need.

1017
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,480
We need external.
Footprints to protect us and we

1018
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,640
need an internal footprint for
execution.

1019
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,880
And this is job creation.
Again, I want to start with what

1020
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,400
I saw in Germany, and it's how
they ended joblessness.

1021
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,280
They don't have, they don't have
joblessness in Germany.

1022
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,600
It doesn't exist.
You know why?

1023
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,720
Because.
It's the recycling.

1024
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,360
Program.
They literally go house that you

1025
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,080
put them outside and they
collect it all.

1026
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,880
They take it to a centralized
center and they literally you

1027
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,400
can go there.
I can video they're separating

1028
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,840
everything.
And then the trucks take them to

1029
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,760
the distribution places where
they're now part of a

1030
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:57,360
marketplace, right?
And it's incredible, you know,

1031
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,240
so we need it's not just drug
and out.

1032
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:01,880
You gotta, you gotta enable
people to feed their families

1033
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,960
right now.
They put us there and they said

1034
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,560
they when they put us in these
places, they promised us plows

1035
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,160
and horses, the ability to
create farms.

1036
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,040
We never even got those, they
never provided them by the way.

1037
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,080
So we also need the ability to
to make our own food right now.

1038
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,880
We can't have marketplaces.
Now your this is crazy for you

1039
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,960
to hear.
By the way, we're going to go 30

1040
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,960
more minutes if in your
community they can have farmers

1041
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,240
markets, right?
Right.

1042
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,200
We're not allowed to do.
That what?

1043
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,560
So if we just.
Yes.

1044
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,520
So if we we we have to get
permission and they make the

1045
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,720
rules that that they have to
qualify our food and we never

1046
00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:43,640
gets qualified because they
don't have the resources to do

1047
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,320
it.
So.

1048
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,040
There's going to be a moment
where we put up our hands and

1049
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,040
say we are done with you, send
in your federal marshals if you

1050
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,920
want.
We're going to pull our

1051
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,080
community together.
We're going to plant the teepee

1052
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,440
stands and welcome all the
children home.

1053
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,480
We're going to tell everybody
across Turtle Island we've been

1054
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,360
looking for a location and all
the communities are talking, by

1055
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,240
the way, OK?
Chief Phil Lane junior has done

1056
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:08,320
more.
Than me, I just got a big sort

1057
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,280
OK that's that we're going to
say you come here this is

1058
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,560
sanctuary, this is restart and
we're going to say that it's

1059
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,760
standing together OK, we're
going to say we are.

1060
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,320
Not going to let our.
Children die in alcohol abuse or

1061
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,200
drug abuse or homelessness.
Or children in.

1062
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,720
Hunger anymore, period, or
joblessness?

1063
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,880
Period.
At this point, we are in a state

1064
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,120
of emergency and we will
communicate with international

1065
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,600
partners.
And not only that, we will, and

1066
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,080
this is coming so fast, we will,
we will tell the Bureau of

1067
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,960
Indian Affairs that they have to
leave.

1068
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,120
We will remove their offices and
we will say we will only

1069
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,440
communicate with your State
Department as every other nation

1070
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,480
in the world does, because it's
the only way that you'll

1071
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,560
negotiate, because we're now
negotiating for the livelihood

1072
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:03,080
of our grandchildren.
And and the last.

1073
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,760
Thing is, you don't control our
citizenship.

1074
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,120
My child is the same as me.
Like what happened to me or?

1075
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,960
That my dad's an Indian.
I got a blood quantum.

1076
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,520
I'm an Indian.
Traditionally I'm initiate.

1077
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,640
I carry a needle and they're
like, oh, you're not an Indian.

1078
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,520
What are you talking?
Get the heck out of here.

1079
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,960
We want we want to have the
ability to have our own

1080
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,040
passports.
We need help getting.

1081
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,200
The devices, these are REAL ID
Act devices that we can fly the

1082
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,680
had and the show in the Iroquois
did it.

1083
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,560
We want to do it too, but we
want to have one that's for all

1084
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,480
the all the tribal peoples of
North America to use so that

1085
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,080
they can now go places.
Right now you have to.

1086
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,000
You really?
Want these reservations to be

1087
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,800
what they were intended to be,
which is sovereign nations,

1088
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:49,920
right?
That's right.

1089
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,800
And that's.
That's what I'm hearing with

1090
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,400
their own economy, with their
own, with their own educational

1091
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,760
system, so that you can just
continue the culture.

1092
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,280
That's right, we.
Set our own curriculum for

1093
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,560
education, what we found is
important, not the Department of

1094
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,440
Education, which that's the case
right now, or they pull our

1095
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,120
federal funding.
So which by the way, is not a

1096
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,280
lot.
I'm just letting you know it's

1097
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,040
not a lot, no.
I get it.

1098
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,800
Even if it's a lot, it doesn't
matter.

1099
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,680
We've thrown money after
education for years and not has

1100
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:17,760
seen anything.
Yeah.

1101
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,000
No, no, I saw.
Budgets in Turtle Mountain, when

1102
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,400
I when I was there, after I
became Nogichi, there was a

1103
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,600
period where I was in
consideration for ACFO job.

1104
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,240
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1105
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1113
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,160
Today I saw budgets.
In Turtle Mountain, when I when

1114
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,280
I was there, after I became
Nogichi, there was a period

1115
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,400
where I was in consideration for
ACFO job.

1116
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,280
I didn't take it.
I saw the budgets for like the

1117
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,640
housing department and for some
other departments and just to

1118
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,560
meet the federal requirements of
managing the money that they

1119
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,200
give.
Leaves eight to 10.

1120
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,040
Percent able to be used in the
community.

1121
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,200
You know.
So fascinating.

1122
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,640
Let let me ask this question
'cause this jumped out at me

1123
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,840
and.
And so now we're gonna get into

1124
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,400
kind of some Mormony stuff, if
you're OK with that.

1125
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,240
And yeah, Mormony's a real word.
I just made it up.

1126
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,440
You made.
Reference.

1127
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:48,200
To the fact that your name was
David and that that has some

1128
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,000
some significance.
Can you explain to me what you

1129
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,360
were talking about there?
From I, I honored.

1130
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,280
The what my grand, what my my
grandparents name.

1131
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,960
You know, I I wasn't.
I, I, it's just, it's not like

1132
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,360
a, a mythical thing.
You just talk about realities in

1133
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,720
life.
You know, my mother was, my

1134
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,760
mother was a teenager and at one
of her check UPS, one of the

1135
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,520
babies wasn't moving and they, I
still carry the scar under my

1136
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,120
chest.
Strange.

1137
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,000
My son was born with a birthmark
there.

1138
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,520
Totally bizarre.
So he looked the same, but.

1139
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,360
They checked me and I didn't
have any white blood cell

1140
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,960
production.
So when I was going to be born,

1141
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,560
I.
Was going to die.

1142
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,960
So my, my uncles, Ray and Ron,
they're twins, you know, they

1143
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,680
were going to, they were going
to adopt the other baby, which

1144
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,680
was my, my, my twin.
And, and so I guess that was the

1145
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,040
destiny, I guess.
And so you had a teenage girl

1146
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,920
that was having kids.
One of them wasn't supposed to

1147
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,080
make it and wasn't, wasn't, I
wasn't supposed to make it.

1148
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,360
And but when I was born, I was
totally healthy and so and my

1149
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,760
twin came out pretty jaundice.
Now this is just the what it is

1150
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,800
that, you know, we were born at
the Saint Joseph Regional

1151
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,920
Medical Center.
You know, Doctor Marsh was the

1152
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,320
doctor.
Like this has happened.

1153
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,160
It is what it is.
I don't people can apply what

1154
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,640
they want to.
It's just what I'm just thankful

1155
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,560
to be alive.
OK, but.

1156
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,840
But the umbilical.
Cord was completely like a like

1157
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,440
a rainbow trout and it was
because they found out that it

1158
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,040
was coated with white blood
cells.

1159
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:19,480
So it's some period before my
brother, my twin, had passed and

1160
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,800
riddled me.
How this happened had passed

1161
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,160
white blood cells out his
umbilical cord a lot that put

1162
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,360
him in like severe jaundice,
like severe.

1163
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,280
He was like yellow like Winnie
the Pooh and then went up my

1164
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,160
umbilical cord into me and it
kick start.

1165
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,360
It kept me alive and it kick
started my own production.

1166
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:39,680
And so I was born totally
normal.

1167
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,120
He had to go into the incubator
and then he was fine after that.

1168
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,160
And so my grandmother named me
David.

1169
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,680
She said you didn't die, so you
slew, you slewed that.

1170
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,200
You know, I slew my Goliath,
right?

1171
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,480
And and it meant something to
me.

1172
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,360
And she told me all the time,
you're my little David, my

1173
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,880
golden child.
What do you mean by that?

1174
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,240
Well, you always listen number
one.

1175
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,200
I did.
I always listened when she

1176
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,600
pulled out the pedigrees and
talked about her ancestor,

1177
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,360
talked about Martha Smith like
she was.

1178
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,720
She held the plates.
And and she said, you know, you,

1179
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,480
you've already, there's nothing
you can't accomplish in life.

1180
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,080
You already overcame death.
You know you're little, David.

1181
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,320
So, yeah, cool.
Great.

1182
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,360
For me it was, you know,
encouragement.

1183
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,240
So, you know, think about
hearing that and being

1184
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,960
encouraged non-stop as a kid and
then being 5 1/2 and falling.

1185
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,280
And I was encouraged no matter
what situation I was in.

1186
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,200
And I was in a tough situation
as a kid.

1187
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,640
But even when I fell and and
severed my tongue and held it in

1188
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,120
my hand walked it.
To my mother.

1189
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:44,360
You know, I felt strong.
And I felt.

1190
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,720
I was going to be OK.
I remember it.

1191
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,880
As if it was today.
And.

1192
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,600
And I was.
I made it so that's why.

1193
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,680
I got the.
Name David?

1194
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,200
The reason I asked.
Is there is and and an old

1195
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,480
doctrine within Mormonism that
talks about the Davidic servant?

1196
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,680
And I didn't know if you were
making allusions to that.

1197
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,880
No, no, no.
Listen, here's the thing.

1198
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,840
No, listen, here's the deal.
Like, 'cause let me tell you

1199
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,840
something, the, the, the, the
Orthodox Jews bring that brought

1200
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,560
that stuff up too.
I don't care about any of that.

1201
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,880
You know, I my, my response, you
know, 'cause I've had some

1202
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,320
pretty interesting things in my
life, right?

1203
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,360
But my response is, you know it.
He stopped assigning to people

1204
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,760
these prophecy stuff.
We know that we're living a

1205
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,200
prophecy because the world is
not perfected yet.

1206
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,400
So we are all a drop of rain in
the cloud travelling to renew

1207
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,600
things.
We don't know if we're the one

1208
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,160
starting at the one that's in
the midst, or maybe we're that

1209
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,600
last drop that makes the
rainfall.

1210
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,040
We don't know.
We're all a part of the story.

1211
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,840
You're a part of the prophecy.
I'm a part of the prophecy she's

1212
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,320
a part of.
My kids are OK because it's not

1213
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,080
a perfected world.
It's not the messianic age,

1214
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,480
right?
So, you know, one thing I

1215
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,760
pointed out to just shut this up
is did you ever read in any of

1216
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,280
these books, the person that it
actually is ever looking back in

1217
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,880
the story and saying, hi, it's
me?

1218
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,560
No, you see people going and
doing good and you do good.

1219
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,840
And if good things happen, they
happen.

1220
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,680
And if they don't, they'll
happen for the next generation.

1221
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,840
You just put your shoulder to
the wheel and you push along.

1222
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,240
You push as hard as you can with
all and not and don't stop just

1223
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,960
because you failed.
There is not a single person

1224
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,400
that isn't an absolute failure
falling off a Cliff.

1225
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,880
OK, but you can't get to a
higher mountain without going

1226
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,440
down.
So.

1227
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,440
Stop judging each other for.
I listen, I'm like fail every

1228
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,680
single day.
It's who cares?

1229
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,920
No, if you're looking for a
perfect people, you're guess

1230
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,920
what?
We're all screwed.

1231
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,680
You know we're.
Imperfect and.

1232
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,120
Then it gets scary.
OK, we're imperfect people on

1233
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:57,040
this little rainbow colored ball
floating in infinite darkness

1234
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,520
with a literal the largest
campfire you've ever seen just

1235
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,120
floating in space next to you.
Right?

1236
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,840
Right.
And we're just completely I'll

1237
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:13,920
equipped for where we're at
without a creator like it.

1238
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,600
We are literally in a nightmare
roller coaster.

1239
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:19,840
And the only thing that makes
it.

1240
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,080
Better is I'm here with you and
you're here with me and I got my

1241
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,440
children and I got my
grandchildren to think for it.

1242
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,280
And by the way, I'm going to be
a grandpa at the end of this

1243
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,720
summer.
We call.

1244
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,600
Mushroom.
I'm in another level and we know

1245
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,280
he's alive right now so I'm
called a grandfather elder now

1246
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,680
so I get it to my tongue is can
swing him a little harder.

1247
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,400
That's awesome.
You'll like we're trying to.

1248
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,160
Go ahead.
Sorry, we're trying we're.

1249
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,080
Trying.
We're trying to get the world to

1250
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,040
recognize if we sit at the table
of the human family, we might

1251
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,320
have something to offer you that
might cause you to have some

1252
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,200
restraint.
But it seems like they're.

1253
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,160
Dead set on making us disappear
in the special things, which by

1254
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,120
the way, the only people in the
world that's like us and thinks

1255
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,360
like us and believes like us are
those that say they do that

1256
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,880
because they got something from
us.

1257
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:12,880
That's the LDS right.
Let me so I guess.

1258
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,640
I'm passionate.
Yeah, yeah.

1259
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:15,720
Let.
Let me let.

1260
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,360
Me ask this question to you
because this as a Mormon, this

1261
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,200
always fascinates me.
I don't think that.

1262
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,880
We can establish Zion without
each other, to be honest with

1263
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:33,200
you.
So if, when, when that time

1264
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,640
comes, how do you see this
playing out where you have kind

1265
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,800
of the separate society, right?
If if you're, if we're

1266
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,360
successful and you get that
done, you have sovereign nations

1267
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,880
within the United States, how do
you see everybody coming

1268
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,960
together to establish Zion then?
Well.

1269
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,560
The first thing is we're.
Not gonna have.

1270
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,320
It's not going.
To be like lots of little

1271
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,280
sovereign nations, it's gonna be
the realization that our

1272
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,600
communities have to speak as
one, just like the Canadian,

1273
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,520
American ones, and we have to do
it all together.

1274
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,480
It's gonna be a large grouping
that does it.

1275
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,120
That's number one, Number two.
When we do do that, we can't do

1276
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,080
that just on our own.
We have to do it with the global

1277
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,720
community of tribal nations
around the world at the same

1278
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,800
time.
So we have to stand up a voice

1279
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,840
side by side with the United
Nations that is a global

1280
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,320
indigenous nations.
Right and.

1281
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:28,960
And so that we now have an equal
platform to communicate now how

1282
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,200
did it all start?
And then this is how it'll fix,

1283
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,960
right?
One drop of water at a time long

1284
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,320
ago when you had the first
family of the first community at

1285
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,680
a first field communities,
everybody knew their place.

1286
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,280
Everybody was doing things for
the community.

1287
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,920
But then there was some guy who
thought he was smarter, thought

1288
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,680
he was stronger, thought he
deserved more.

1289
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,760
And he talked about it.
I bet he was chastised.

1290
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,960
I bet he wasn't treated very
well by the community for being

1291
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,040
crazy like that.
But you know, you get a little

1292
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,280
group of people together and you
keep sharing, sharing, sharing,

1293
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,000
sharing.
Pretty soon it's 51%.

1294
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,960
And then everything shifted and,
and then the war started and

1295
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,960
it's a real war.
Yeah, it's a.

1296
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:09,680
Real war, if you are taking more
then can be replenished because

1297
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,320
you want it right now.
This is the voice.

1298
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,960
Of the global, this is like 400
communities, OK, Like 400.

1299
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,240
OK, I didn't do it.
Chief Phil Lane and all the

1300
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,120
elders did OK.
So I'm a beneficiary of being

1301
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,560
able to be at the tail end of
this thing and just have a big

1302
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:33,680
sword.
So the the the you got to get me

1303
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,120
back on track here.
How do you see?

1304
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,760
Once once you've established
these sovereign nations here or

1305
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,280
a sovereign nation, how global
voice.

1306
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,600
Yeah, a global voice.
How is it you see us coming

1307
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:51,040
together the the Gentiles and
Lehigh seed to establish Zion?

1308
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,880
Yeah, so.
You'll never get anyone to sit

1309
01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:00,560
at a table unless you unless
they value your voice, and

1310
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,400
they're not gonna value our
voice unless we speak

1311
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:03,760
collectively and
internationally.

1312
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:05,480
And so we have.
To find a.

1313
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,400
Baseline of what we all can
agree on that we say this is the

1314
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,160
red line.
This is like the bare minimum.

1315
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,920
And then we have to and we have
to agree on that.

1316
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,560
We say it, we call it the seven
laws of NOAA and we call it the

1317
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,840
seven grandfather teachings.
OK, There are these basic tenets

1318
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,800
like human life is sacred.
You can't take human life,

1319
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,399
right?
And and when people say, well,

1320
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:26,240
wars are gonna happen, every war
I've ever seen ends sitting at a

1321
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,640
table.
But with a lot of loss of.

1322
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,640
Life and resources.
Right, but why don't you sit?

1323
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,399
At the table in the beginning,
so how it's going to how it's

1324
01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:39,000
going to go, you would
understand it would have to be

1325
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,479
one person at a time, one
community at a time.

1326
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,600
And it has to be on a core
principle.

1327
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:50,520
And it has to be a parody of,
of, of the two sides half there

1328
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,680
has to be, and there is two
sides, those with everything

1329
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,600
being taken from them and those
benefiting from the taking of

1330
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:00,200
the things that are at war with
their grandchildren unborn.

1331
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:04,520
And, and, and if they won't have
clean water in 5 generations and

1332
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:09,160
they won't have clean air and
they won't have economic

1333
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,640
development and they won't have,
they won't have anything they

1334
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,399
wouldn't because of what you're
doing right now.

1335
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,520
The war really isn't right now.
The war is with the future.

1336
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,000
The war is with the future.
That's what we're trying to

1337
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,720
stop.
You know, we're trying to say.

1338
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,760
OK, you're at war with your
unborn grandchildren.

1339
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:34,000
You've got to stop.
The the and so how we do that is

1340
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,720
we're going to redirect the
philosophy, which is what the

1341
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,359
great peacemaker gave to us.
We asked the question you just

1342
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,200
to what do we do?
What are you talking about?

1343
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,600
We didn't know what to do.
You know, we had lost our we

1344
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,200
were Renegades.
We were real Renegades, man

1345
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,560
killing each other.
And he said, you know, he said,

1346
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,040
where'd you get your heart from?
We said, well, we got it.

1347
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,960
From our mother.
Yeah, you got it in her womb.

1348
01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:01,760
It's actually your very first
experience.

1349
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,360
Like I shared this like, so many
times.

1350
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,080
I don't know why people can't
say it on their own.

1351
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,000
You know you're. 1st.
Like every person will stand

1352
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,880
before the creator and when the
slide deck goes your life, the

1353
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,400
first thing memory will be
you're hearing your mom's heart

1354
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,440
and feeling it.
I'm not alone.

1355
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,760
And then you feel the heartbeat
in you and you're like, you're

1356
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,000
the same.
You're one.

1357
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,200
Her heart is in me, whatever
this is.

1358
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,240
And then you come out and she's
holding you, and then she stands

1359
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,240
by that child.
Even if they commit like, murder

1360
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,320
and crimes unconditionally.
So.

1361
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,640
So we have to shift that way and
say that women need to have more

1362
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,840
of a role.
In everything that.

1363
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,120
Occurs, they need to, and it
needs to be a requirement to sit

1364
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:48,080
at the table #1 because they
have to speak for their unborn

1365
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:49,840
children.
That's number one.

1366
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,080
Number two, men have to remember
their place.

1367
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,920
Well, that's what we have to
teach that you priesthood

1368
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,680
execution, right?
What are you executing?

1369
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,400
We say it's the 7th
grandfathered or 7th generation

1370
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,480
principle.
This is what we will institute

1371
01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:06,880
in all of our communities
internationally, that the

1372
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,120
executor, the executor of a
decision, before they can do it,

1373
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,760
has to write a 7th generation
policy about how it will not

1374
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,480
harm the 7th generation.
Our elders used to have to stand

1375
01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:22,760
up and orally state it and if it
did, they couldn't do it.

1376
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,120
And if they decided to do it,
the grandmother would replace

1377
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,200
them.
The women have to have more

1378
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:34,280
voice in what the men are doing.
That's what our three house.

1379
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,080
Government was they had, they
had the final decision.

1380
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,880
So we're going to spread this
message that we have to, one,

1381
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,920
balance the patriarchy with the
required matriarchy in our

1382
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,840
communities.
Now you're going to be shocked

1383
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,960
to know that every tribal
community in the world already

1384
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:53,160
does that.
It's the European.

1385
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,360
Influenced communities that
don't right now.

1386
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:58,720
I'm not saying the church
doesn't.

1387
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,840
They got a Relief Society that's
incredible, who runs all the

1388
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,080
social welfare programs for the
church.

1389
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:08,320
To the really answer me.
On this one, do the men run?

1390
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,000
Any social.
Programs to help the family and

1391
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,640
communities in the church.
It's been a while.

1392
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,120
Since I've been in the IDs
church so you're going to have

1393
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,000
to not.
I am.

1394
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:18,800
Well, me too man.
Hey.

1395
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,800
When when I was in.
There it was.

1396
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,600
It was an elders quorum Relief
Society kind of fix, right.

1397
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,560
But typically it was a Relief
Society that went in and said,

1398
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,000
OK, let's get you a food order,
let's do XY and Z.

1399
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,720
So it was the primary function
of the Relief Society to

1400
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:36,640
administer.
That's right.

1401
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,000
Well.
In our communities right now,

1402
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,960
who do who do you see with the
structures that exist?

1403
01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:46,440
You only see a bunch of men
arguing with each other based

1404
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:50,000
upon who's giving them donations
for their own ability to stay

1405
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,720
sitting in their chair.
I don't have any concern.

1406
01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:58,080
For the homelessness in cities
this is a this is AUS issue and

1407
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,720
Canada issue too drive through
any any city like.

1408
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,080
Like is there any?
While while there's hundreds of

1409
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,080
billions going overseas and I
owe the war, blah blah blah.

1410
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,640
I fought in war.
This is ridiculous.

1411
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,880
What?
You know there's no victory in

1412
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,080
women and children crying.
What are you talking about?

1413
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:18,080
OK, that that you know is there.
Any real concern?

1414
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,160
For our elderly.
And and.

1415
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,280
For their housing and for their
health and welfare?

1416
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,320
Like none.
What about our families?

1417
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:30,120
Is there any concern for their
housing and employment stability

1418
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,120
and and for their ability to
have time with their children?

1419
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,920
Like, like there was a time when
we didn't have technology and,

1420
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,200
and we had to do things like
manually and with paper and

1421
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,880
stuff and, and, and it takes a
long time.

1422
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,720
So we manage the schedule and
had more time with their family.

1423
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:51,160
Now if we as we implement
technology and so you can do

1424
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:55,400
those things faster, how come
all that did instead of now you

1425
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,000
should get time back right?
The same.

1426
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,760
Thing.
You needed you can do in a 10th

1427
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,280
of time.
No, they just said, well then,

1428
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,520
now I'm going to make you work
longer.

1429
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,440
I'm going to make you do more.
That that that's unreasonable.

1430
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,280
So we have to change.
The dialogue to focus on these

1431
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,440
things and and we need you to
have the ability to become

1432
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:19,000
citizens in our communities.
This is my great mission and I

1433
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,200
just want to share this with you
you.

1434
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,720
Say, what's the point?
We need to give you another

1435
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,320
option and another choice.
My great.

1436
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,760
Message to my people and, and,
and if you're from Turtle Island

1437
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,160
and you're and, and since the
flood, you're my people is that,

1438
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:37,520
let's be honest, we are all
human beings.

1439
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,680
We're all honest in in.
Fright, an honest Shanabe.

1440
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,880
The spirits lowered.
But the sound we use?

1441
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,920
OG Chagwa sound we use.
Spirit in the body.

1442
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,920
The sound we use?
Well, if every human being is

1443
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,360
the exact same thing, then they
should all have the right to be

1444
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,360
in our community under these
same structures.

1445
01:14:55,000 --> 01:15:01,320
And what would the structure be?
Well, it's family, right?

1446
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,680
It's a group.
Of.

1447
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,360
Families.
What's a family?

1448
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,080
You got elderly and you got
children the most vulnerable.

1449
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,560
So structure it for them.
And I guess, oh, it's

1450
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,520
impossible.
It's just, it's just never gonna

1451
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,520
happen.
We just the systems the way it

1452
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,800
is, we're your best chance to
make it happen.

1453
01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:22,480
Because if we have the ability
to speak for ourselves and do

1454
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:25,160
our own things, we'll do it in
our traditional way, which is

1455
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,480
actually more in common with the
church than you could ever

1456
01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:29,520
imagine.
And.

1457
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:30,280
If that's.
True.

1458
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,800
Then why wouldn't the church
want to be a part of laying that

1459
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,400
foundation?
Why wouldn't they help us the,

1460
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,880
the drug abuse quick clinics?
Why wouldn't they help us?

1461
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,640
You know, why wouldn't they help
us with the, with the, with

1462
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,080
these, we need language schools.
Why wouldn't somebody help us

1463
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,720
with that?
You know, I was up at the

1464
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,560
Denneton and I'll shut up.
I was up in the Denneton.

1465
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,760
They're up, they're in the
Northwest Territories, man.

1466
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:54,240
And, and the, the, the, the
French just poured in there.

1467
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,320
The, the government doesn't own
the land.

1468
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,560
They have no treaties up there.
They don't.

1469
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:03,040
And and they built a they and
they refused to give for the

1470
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,640
stuff they take.
They give nothing back.

1471
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,920
And they refused to assist with
even a language school.

1472
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:12,000
And yet the Grand National Chief
took me to the biggest building

1473
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,640
I've ever seen in my life.
And it was a French language.

1474
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,840
School they built up there it.
Was like it was like the.

1475
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,200
University of Utah, man, just to
teach French.

1476
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,880
So I think, oh, there's a
disparity here.

1477
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:25,280
So we're just going to change
it.

1478
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,640
And then we want to give you
equal access to our citizenship

1479
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,480
upon our land.
And you can say, well, like we

1480
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:32,440
were the Eagle Nation before the
United States was.

1481
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:34,880
They took our emblem.
We were the three House

1482
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,240
government before they were,
they took our structure.

1483
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:38,280
They they write it in their
books.

1484
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,040
They came and sat with us.
They used it in a bad way.

1485
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,600
And now the two snakes are
turned against each other.

1486
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,480
Right, it used to be one.
Snake consuming everything and

1487
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:49,440
taking it from us well.
For the first time ever.

1488
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,600
They've split into two snakes
and they're taken from each

1489
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,040
other.
Like literally skin in the bark

1490
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,880
from the ear down and skinning
it from the ankle up on every

1491
01:16:55,880 --> 01:17:00,640
single person in the US, every
business, right, every

1492
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:04,840
community, right?
And and, and we say, well, I

1493
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,440
mean.
Is that right And.

1494
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:10,880
So as they're doing that right,
that's our opportunity to say we

1495
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,880
don't want to participate in
this trash anymore.

1496
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,720
We're going to do.
Yeah, we're going to manage our

1497
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:17,840
own shit.
Excuse me?

1498
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:18,880
The language we're going to
make.

1499
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:19,880
You're good.
You're on.

1500
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,400
The right podcast for that.
You're good.

1501
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,040
So, yeah.
And and that's really what I was

1502
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,120
kind of looking for there.
You're you're you're essentially

1503
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,320
going to create another
counterculture, which is not a

1504
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,360
bad thing.
I make the contention all the

1505
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,760
time that Mormonism was one of
the first countercultures within

1506
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,160
the United States, right?
This idea of no, no, we're going

1507
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,840
to make a parallel civilization
with yours, right.

1508
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,840
If you read Joseph, if you read
Brigham in those in those early

1509
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,960
days, it was about a different
system than the one that was

1510
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,160
existing in the land that they
were in.

1511
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:55,120
Now we're.
Not making anything.

1512
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,720
New in 17 O1 now this and this
is this is the history.

1513
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,480
This is crazy.
We actually know the history

1514
01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:05,000
better than the American.
It's so strange in in between.

1515
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,240
This is important for you to
understand.

1516
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,240
We're not making anything new.
We're just going back to what we

1517
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,320
had.
And and so here's the thing, you

1518
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:16,640
know, in, in in between 1612 and
1619, there was a plague that

1519
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,720
flooded across North America,
killed like 90% of the people,

1520
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:24,680
like 9 out of 10 people.
We fled our cities for an entire

1521
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,560
2 generations, 50 years.
OK.

1522
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,480
You'd be like if COVID killed 9
out of 10, you're not in the

1523
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:31,800
city, dude.
You're out camping, man.

1524
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,240
You're like me.
You'd be like me.

1525
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,320
You'd be out camping, moving
with your kids.

1526
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,080
You see people staying away from
them, right?

1527
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,800
Yeah.
The observer would say you're a

1528
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,560
tribal.
We had.

1529
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,040
Cities they got.
Overgrown.

1530
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,240
You found them, they found.
Them it's Oh my gosh, what is

1531
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:46,960
this?
That was ours.

1532
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,800
We came back.
The third generation in the

1533
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:54,280
1660s, seventies came back.
They renew what their

1534
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,640
grandparents told them.
They grew up with their parents

1535
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,360
and grandparents who could tell
them in the 1600s of the

1536
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,640
genocide of the plague, the
genocide by by by disease.

1537
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,160
And and.
And they, so they went back and

1538
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,480
we reclaimed our communities and
our trading routes.

1539
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,040
Well, that's when the Beaver
Wars started and that's when the

1540
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,800
trading wars started with the
French and the English because

1541
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,080
they were there and it was so
aggressive that in in the, the

1542
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,840
England made the covenant chain
agreement.

1543
01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:27,320
Now the Queen Elizabeth before
she died said that that's still

1544
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,560
in effect.
Those are from the late. 16.

1545
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,080
Hundreds.
That says that you will deal

1546
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,680
equally with us as you do any
other nation on our things.

1547
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,440
Still in effect.
Why doesn't the colony follower

1548
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:37,720
follow the law?
Right.

1549
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:43,360
So 17 O1 we end up in Montreal.
And it's called the Treaty of.

1550
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,760
Montreal and I ask everybody to
go and Google it and we made, we

1551
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,280
didn't present paper like they
had a paper, but we made a

1552
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,040
wampum belt.
This was a, a thing that goes

1553
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,080
generation to generation.
You touch it, it gathers the

1554
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,080
oil.
It's a it's like a a living

1555
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,760
symbol of something paper you
can throw in a fire.

1556
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,640
William Kamanda carried.
That wampum belt, OK.

1557
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,560
We.
We have authority and in there

1558
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,560
it had three images on it.
It had three white figures just

1559
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,760
cause white beads, but it
represented the French, the

1560
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,960
Indian and the English and it
said that for and it read it.

1561
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,560
It says forever this is.
Bound.

1562
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:30,400
Upon our generations, as long as
the grass grows and the sun

1563
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:34,840
rises and sets, that means your
generations after that don't

1564
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,200
have the authority to abrogate
it, OK?

1565
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,480
And it said that we would.
We would go side by side, not

1566
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:49,800
pressing upon each other, OK?
It only took 60 years before

1567
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,960
they turned the guns on.
The Indian in the middle took

1568
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,880
his things, moved him to another
location.

1569
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:03,960
OK, that can't support anything.
Now we've now.

1570
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,640
They're using our things, for
which we said they could, for

1571
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,000
their progress.
They're progressing and we have

1572
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,920
no progress.
We're currently living right now

1573
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:17,760
the exact same as the British
and French were living in the

1574
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,400
1700s.
We are living exactly the same

1575
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,400
in most communities.
OK.

1576
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,400
No progress.
And then because there's no

1577
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,640
progress and you can't control
your progress, they then turned

1578
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,160
the knives even further.
OK.

1579
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,080
And and then started taking
children, taking language,

1580
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,560
taking you're not worthy, you're
not valid.

1581
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,880
That's how it happened.
So we have to like reverse that

1582
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,920
and say well then OK, OK, OK, OK
then the little that we we will

1583
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,040
just say this.
We will agree that.

1584
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,000
The agreements that were made at
gunpoint, like 1863, my

1585
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:57,160
grandfather sat with Alexander
Ramsey and the week prior, like

1586
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,960
the couple weeks prior, he had
issued an executive order in the

1587
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,280
Minnesota territory paying
$200.00 a head.

1588
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,640
That's a lot in those times for
any of the ones who are actually

1589
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,880
coming to sit at the treaty.
So if there's under.

1590
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:16,480
US under US, Under US contract
law, that's called a vitiating

1591
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:20,600
element.
Under US contract law, any

1592
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,040
contract entered into by force
or coercion is null and void.

1593
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,360
That's the first thing.
So we.

1594
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,200
Need we need.
To really think about that, if

1595
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,600
you're you and how we view that
second thing, if you did make a

1596
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,600
treaty in good faith, you have
to fully honor it.

1597
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:36,720
And if you're not going to
honor.

1598
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,600
It then we have to have the
courage, OK?

1599
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,640
To say then you can no.
Longer use these roads, you can

1600
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,600
no longer use these waterways.
You can no longer take things

1601
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,320
from what we have in the little
we have left.

1602
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,920
And and because we don't have
anything, Dave, it's not we're

1603
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,200
not going to survive.
So we can only do it together.

1604
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:58,560
Many hands make light.
Work.

1605
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,880
So we'll have to take the little
that we have and we'll have to

1606
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,760
speak together right in regard
to that.

1607
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,960
And that's the focus.
And then and then, you know, to

1608
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,560
go back to our traditional
values, which is we will not let

1609
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,120
this happen to our children
anymore.

1610
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,320
We're going to address the drug
and alcohol.

1611
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,440
We're going to address the the
homelessness.

1612
01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:18,720
We're going to when we used to
say when they turned 18, the

1613
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,480
whole community came together
like the Amish, and then they

1614
01:23:21,480 --> 01:23:24,600
gave them a home.
A safe place.

1615
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,360
Maybe you go and add on to it.
We want to get these these

1616
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,720
cylinder homes that are
fireproof and can fall in water

1617
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,440
and float around.
But we want to get something

1618
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,800
that we can give to somebody to
have a safe place.

1619
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,800
You can always restart.
We want to.

1620
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,320
Change the way.
You do things man, but it's

1621
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,080
traditional.
No, totally, yeah.

1622
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,520
Well, man, that's good.
Stuff I don't want to take up

1623
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,720
all your time.
If someone wants to help, how do

1624
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:52,000
they get a hold of you?
Well, that's a great question.

1625
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,480
Right now.
So I had no intention of this.

1626
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:56,720
I don't know how to answer that
at the moment.

1627
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,080
They can go to mitiga.org and
there's a contact information on

1628
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,800
there.
The elders are gathering the the

1629
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,920
traditional and the leadership
are, are these are treaty

1630
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:11,400
chieftains and traditional clan
chieftains and communities that,

1631
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:13,760
you know, for some strange
reason in the 30s and 50s,

1632
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,160
because we were trying to speak
as one voice and get in the UN,

1633
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,240
Canada and the US said, well,
you can't represent your

1634
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,920
communities anymore, but we do.
We're gonna get together.

1635
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,480
In the fall and September and
discuss what is the next step

1636
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,640
and we're gonna bring our
spiritual things together and

1637
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,680
and there are a lot of people
that are gonna make decisions,

1638
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,040
but I can tell you the direction
we're going.

1639
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,400
So until then, just I don't
know.

1640
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,080
You can get in contact with me.
I would ask you to if you really

1641
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,760
want to know what the future is,
jump now.

1642
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,960
Create foundations that help us.
And then donate to those.

1643
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,360
Foundations that help us.
That's a great start.

1644
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:47,240
Make.
Foundations.

1645
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:52,000
Man, and don't come in expecting
something really in return.

1646
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,320
You'll get that when we can
stand up, right?

1647
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:56,480
You know.
Right.

1648
01:24:56,480 --> 01:24:59,920
Absolutely.
Well man, that was good stuff.

1649
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,360
Anything else you want to say
before we jump off here?

1650
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,160
Different kind of.
Conversation, I hope.

1651
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,320
You liked it?
Yeah, it's interesting.

1652
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:12,640
Hey, maybe I'll get burned to
the stake.

1653
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,120
We'll see.
Well, probably not burned at the

1654
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,800
stake much anymore, but I
promise you, your hate mail will

1655
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,120
look nothing like my hate mail,
so it's all good.

1656
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,960
Anyway.
Hang out for about 5 minutes, I

1657
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,760
want to talk to you off air for
just a few and then I'll let you

1658
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,240
go.
But other than that, thanks for

1659
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,760
being here.
Yeah, I hope it.

1660
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,880
Again, I guess I hope it hit the
bar, but I'm not I I think it

1661
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,960
did look.
I.

1662
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,600
You did a.
Really good job of breaking down

1663
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,160
your case doctrinally.
So to.

1664
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,200
Speak on those other podcasts.
And what I.

1665
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,560
Wanted to do.
Here is dive into the nitty

1666
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,720
gritty.
It's one thing to talk about it.

1667
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:58,280
It's another thing to do it
right and and we we heard about

1668
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,640
the direction you wanted to go
my questions.

1669
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,040
Were.
Then how do we get there?

1670
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,720
What kind of help do you need?
Those sorts of things.

1671
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,080
And that's, that was the point
of this podcast.

1672
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,040
We could beat the doctrine to
death.

1673
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,080
But I feel like you've already
done a great job of laying that

1674
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,120
out and laying out the
connections on that on on on

1675
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,800
those other podcasts.
This was directed more for

1676
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,440
action if people want I, I did
man.

1677
01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:26,760
I forgot to mention that and
maybe you can cut this in.

1678
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:28,240
No, you're good.
We're still.

1679
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,880
Reporting you go right ahead
yeah, so so if you.

1680
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,440
Go to mitiga.org.
What we have pushed out to all

1681
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:37,160
tribal communities is what we
call Project 24 and.

1682
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,120
What?
Project 24 is, is, is how we can

1683
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,360
recognize our unique community
challenges, but also our shared

1684
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,080
goals.
And so it outlines, you know,

1685
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,160
how to advocate and champion
restoring what was sacred to us,

1686
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,120
which were our, our, our seven
grandfather teachings and our

1687
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,640
traditional governance in our
communities, how we prioritize

1688
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,400
tradition and family voting and
language rights and, and how we

1689
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,360
envision unity and.
So our, you know our.

1690
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,800
Journey began centuries ago, but
in 200 years, we haven't really

1691
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,120
been able to achieve what we
need because we've been waiting

1692
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,720
for other people to do for us
what we can do for ourselves.

1693
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,920
And we get this example from,
you know you did you get it in,

1694
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,520
in, in, in your walk every day.
You know that the creator's not

1695
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,520
gonna do it for you what you can
do for yourself, right?

1696
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,280
Definitely no foreign government
that benefits from you

1697
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,520
disappearing or assimilating is
going to do anything for you.

1698
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,680
So we put together a three phase
approach.

1699
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,240
This is critical and I'm so glad
that we got to this point.

1700
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,480
You know, 2024 was in the
community with elections and

1701
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:37,080
resolutions if.
Anything in?

1702
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,160
Our Constitutions is a violation
of international law.

1703
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,680
This is established by UN
Resolution 861295, the

1704
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,240
Declaration on the Rights of
Indigenous Peoples.

1705
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:50,560
This is human rights.
In December 16th, 2010, Barack

1706
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,920
Obama, he, he, he signed this,
he's the United States, he

1707
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,880
signed them on to this, but then
never actually put it into

1708
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,600
action, right.
So this first one, we're going

1709
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,200
to win elections this year.
We got to pass resolutions to

1710
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,920
strike these things out of our
constitutions that are

1711
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,640
violations of international law
that were pressed upon us during

1712
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:15,320
times of genocide. 2025 so then.
We have a two year window it.

1713
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,960
Really a two year?
Window 2025 is phase one

1714
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,600
internal responsibility.
I'm going to talk about that

1715
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:27,440
2026 is external responsibility.
So when we say phase one, the

1716
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:30,400
requirements to be sovereign,
that involves we got to have a

1717
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,600
we got to have some spiritual
center.

1718
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,800
You know, you would look to your
Declaration of Independence and

1719
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:41,280
and and stating that all men are
endowed with inalienable rights

1720
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,800
and life, liberty, pursuit of
happiness with that really

1721
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,280
charted a path, didn't it?
Well, we'd say, well, the seven

1722
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,000
grandfather teachings were our
core.

1723
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,000
Really our core.
And we're going to return that

1724
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,920
to our communities.
You see it already written on

1725
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:55,680
all the walls.
We're just going to live it

1726
01:28:56,440 --> 01:28:58,880
right.
We're going to protect family

1727
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,160
rights.
Our children aren't leaving

1728
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,400
anymore or.
They're not.

1729
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,520
Leaving and going off the out of
our homes anymore, our, our

1730
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,400
elderly are going to be taken
care of.

1731
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,080
We're going to show up every
day.

1732
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,200
We're going to, we're going to
create systems to and take our

1733
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,280
youth and say you want to go to
College in our communities then.

1734
01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:20,920
We need 2.
Years from you and we're going

1735
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,080
to organize them to go and like
I told you, we're going to

1736
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,840
institute a in mass recycling
programs to take the little we

1737
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,480
have to be a lot collectively.
We're going to go and do

1738
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:36,280
community service and show up
and mow the lawn and build the

1739
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,720
house where we're going to be
the Jimmy Carter's in our

1740
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,120
community.
We're going to protect voting

1741
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:45,120
rights right now and many don't
know that if you're below a

1742
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,520
certain blood quantum,
regardless if your tribe is

1743
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,680
lineal, you don't get a vote in
your tribal community.

1744
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,960
Not only that, but if you don't
live within the reservation,

1745
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,600
right, there's no guarantee that
you had you will that number

1746
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:03,400
one, most don't have most don't
have the the the the ballots you

1747
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,040
can get when you live away like
you get as an American.

1748
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,880
I come overseas like.
We don't have that.

1749
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,000
And then when we do have it,
there's no accountability, you

1750
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,520
know, normally in the USA to say
how many were requested and how

1751
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,680
many were provided.
We don't have that requirement.

1752
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,840
We're going to codify that into
our law, protect voting rights

1753
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,880
right now, Turtle Mountain, the
1:00 we we are going to win has

1754
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,720
40,000 members and yet.
Because of the.

1755
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,040
Requirement of having to vote
within the boundaries even

1756
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,720
though it was in the the
boarding schools for Turtle

1757
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,360
Mountain in the in the Pembina
the Red Bear.

1758
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,160
They took them 1000 to 1500
miles away.

1759
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,320
So they grew up and then they
and then in the the relocation

1760
01:30:42,440 --> 01:30:47,080
Indian relocation policies of
19565758, they came in and took

1761
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:51,720
them also to inner cities.
So 37,000 members live outside

1762
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,360
of the reservation.
Yet in every election only 3000

1763
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,760
are voting.
So if you get 50% of that 3000,

1764
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,680
we're operating on A5 to 65 to
6% of the community is managing

1765
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,480
it for everybody and that's not
right.

1766
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:06,560
So we're going to protect voting
rights.

1767
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:11,120
Everybody the the fourth phase
is protecting language rights.

1768
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,560
Language is a living.
Thing it is your only

1769
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,960
connection.
It's what makes you a family and

1770
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,280
we're going to institute this
curriculum into our schools.

1771
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,440
They do it in every country.
In the world, we're going to

1772
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:26,640
start with a generation because
we know when they go 12 years

1773
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,360
until they graduate high school,
they'll be fluent speakers, and

1774
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,520
then every generation after that
will restore.

1775
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,160
The.
Language that was taken into our

1776
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,920
communities.
I won't be a minority anymore,

1777
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,320
but even I hearing the bits and
pieces and having to piece it

1778
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,840
together had to relearn as well.
So spiritual.

1779
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,880
We're going to go back to
traditions, protect family

1780
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,400
rights, protect their voting
rights and protect our language

1781
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,080
rights.
We have to do it for ourselves

1782
01:31:50,440 --> 01:31:52,680
because those hoping we will
disappear will never do it for

1783
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,240
us.
You know, phase two requirements

1784
01:31:55,240 --> 01:32:00,160
to be sovereign, shared
citizenship, shared economies

1785
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,600
and international diplomacy.
We're already laying the

1786
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,600
foundations for these things and
these require having systems.

1787
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,840
We've already identified the
systems we we have.

1788
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,320
My, my, my great uncle showed it
could happen.

1789
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,440
The first Indian solely Indian
owned bank was placed into the

1790
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:17,200
Blackfoot reservation by my
great uncle.

1791
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,880
It can happen.
There are softwares that have

1792
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,360
been put together by the
grandchildren of really

1793
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,400
oppressive royal families that
are selling, providing these

1794
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,720
things at almost no cost.
But they still have a cost to

1795
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,360
countries around the world to be
independent, to have their own

1796
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,800
banking systems, their own SWIFT
application.

1797
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,200
It's the same meaning we can
transfer our money without

1798
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,440
somebody turning it off,
patrolling it because they just

1799
01:32:39,440 --> 01:32:41,320
don't like the economic
decisions we make, which is

1800
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,360
basically like they do with our
treaties.

1801
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:47,400
They sold the 9,000,000 acres
today in in North Dakota for

1802
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:52,400
$2.86 an acre last.
Summer when the average.

1803
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:56,480
For any acre is between 3 and
20,000 depending on where you

1804
01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:58,920
are.
So people received $1500 instead

1805
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:02,160
of what was their inheritance.
How beneficial is that to

1806
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,640
anybody For us, no international
diplomacy.

1807
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,760
So and so that's that shared
citizenship means we are going

1808
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,200
to have the same identification
to travel between our

1809
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,480
communities and internationally
we're going.

1810
01:33:13,480 --> 01:33:16,440
To have shared and.
Shared services means if I'm in

1811
01:33:16,440 --> 01:33:19,880
one, one location, I need to go
to the hospital that I can,

1812
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:22,480
right?
Shared economies, we're going to

1813
01:33:22,480 --> 01:33:24,880
have our own marketplaces that
we share on Amazon, our own

1814
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,280
supply chain logistics
applications.

1815
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:29,480
We're going to.
We're going to have.

1816
01:33:29,480 --> 01:33:33,160
These things international
diplomacy, we will we will

1817
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,640
communicate for our things with
international agent,

1818
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,520
international parties ourselves,
the.

1819
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,560
US will not and.
Canada will not do it for our

1820
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,200
benefit or our grandchildren's
benefit.

1821
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,160
We have to do it for ourselves.
We must do and we have no

1822
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,760
excuse.
So if I was to explain this

1823
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,240
again, we have to integrate the
seven grandfather teachings and

1824
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,320
their meanings into our tribal
constitutions.

1825
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,360
And as a foundation for our
actions with the principle, we

1826
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,560
must require by resolution our
leaders to write a 7th

1827
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,960
generation justification before
any law takes effect.

1828
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,600
We cannot be at war with our
unborn generations anymore.

1829
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:09,080
Mormons should understand this.
They're living with those who

1830
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:10,360
have passed and they're
together.

1831
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:14,120
They're relying on us when we
say protect family rights, we

1832
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,080
have to.
We have to prioritize restoring

1833
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,760
lineal descent as the
cornerstone of citizenship,

1834
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,880
freeing communities from the
confines of blood quantum and

1835
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,080
external status controls,
embracing our heritage.

1836
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:30,240
We must aspire to a future of
inclusivity, inclusivity and

1837
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,880
equality for our families, just
as every other nation in the

1838
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,640
world does, and extend that
right to others to be a part of

1839
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,680
our communities.
Equally.

1840
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,000
We're one human family when we
say Protect Voting Rights

1841
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,320
advocate for the acknowledgement
of protected voting rights for

1842
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,880
all tribal citizens of age,
irrespective of their geographic

1843
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,160
location.
This encompasses enabling

1844
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,880
absentee and electronic voting
methods to guarantee broad

1845
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,840
community engagement.
It's a human right to have a

1846
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,800
voice in your community and we
have to assure every voice and

1847
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,400
vote counts when we say language
rights.

1848
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,640
We have to advocate for the
protection of our language

1849
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:07,160
rights.
Advocating for inclusion of

1850
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,680
traditional languages of North
America in our schools, public

1851
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:15,320
presentations, lettering on on
signage and official documents

1852
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,920
within our territories.
This commitment aims to uphold

1853
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,560
and advance our linguistic
heritage in all aspects of

1854
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,360
community life.
French is on everything in

1855
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,640
Quebec.
We can put our language on our

1856
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,160
things too, when we.
Say phase.

1857
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,480
Two, unified political and
economic identity.

1858
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,080
We must achieve a unified
political and economic identity

1859
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,640
based on our ideals, our beliefs
and our traditions.

1860
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:41,040
We must integrate our elected
and treaty Dudum councils

1861
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,880
locally, nationally, free from
external influences.

1862
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:48,120
And if their communities can
speak from one as one, from

1863
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,920
coast to coast, we have to do it
the same.

1864
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:55,480
When we say unified citizenship
phase two, year two, we must

1865
01:35:55,480 --> 01:36:00,160
advocate for a a shared
citizenship identification and

1866
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:04,080
travel system akin to the US and
Canadian federal state models,

1867
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,240
except unified for all tribal
peoples of North America,

1868
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,600
including Central and South
America.

1869
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,000
We must promote consistency and
unity.

1870
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,080
Aligning with global sovereign
nations but respecting their

1871
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,920
borders are not our limitations.
Empowering our collective voice

1872
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:22,760
and inspiring a global mandate
of one human family.

1873
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,440
When we say diplomatic
engagement, we must advocate for

1874
01:36:26,440 --> 01:36:31,200
a transformative shift in global
communication practices, urging

1875
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,400
communities to cease
interactions with Interior

1876
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,120
departments.
We are not property of the US

1877
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,040
and Canada.
Instead, we call for diplomatic

1878
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:43,040
engagements with state
departments, aligning with other

1879
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:46,680
sovereign nations to bolster our
international and economic

1880
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,720
standing.
We must, we must demand these

1881
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,240
things together for state to
state communications.

1882
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:59,680
And so this is my invitation,
speaking from 1 Dudamag, that

1883
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:03,200
this is an invitation for all
tribal communities in 2024, in

1884
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,520
the elections this fall to shape
a future guided by the seven

1885
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,520
grandfather teachings, honoring
the Seven Fires prophecy that we

1886
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:14,720
endured for this time.
And this time is for us to

1887
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:18,200
engage each other, share our
insights, and let's forge a

1888
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:22,240
resilient, united community
rooted in tradition, progressive

1889
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:26,800
growth for generations to come.
Progress is not just for them,

1890
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:31,360
but we can have progress without
being at war with our unborn

1891
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:35,240
generations who are looking back
at us with hate and condemned

1892
01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:40,080
because they can't even breathe
fresh air or love because we

1893
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:45,760
restored to the desert that was
their destiny, their destiny, a

1894
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:49,560
blooming rose of hope.
And even right now I would close

1895
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:54,200
with this if there is one ember
left in the ash.

1896
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:58,200
And we find it.
Together let's together give it

1897
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:02,400
breath, and we'll rebuild the
fire of our sacred family.

1898
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:04,400
Make witch.
And thank you for.

1899
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:08,400
Letting me share that that is my
heart and vision for our people.

1900
01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:12,000
And we're starting we.
Call it the restart in the

1901
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,600
heart.
It's starting in Turtle Mountain

1902
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,800
and we were the heart and it's
going to spread.

1903
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,160
But I will tell you this.
This is it, Dave.

1904
01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:26,080
You are on a Shenabig too.
And you are in my tribe, You.

1905
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,440
Are a spirit.
Lord you are.

1906
01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:31,600
OG Chaguan.
Just like me, you're a spirit in

1907
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,600
the body and you have a purpose
here on this earth.

1908
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,320
You are an Ojib way.
You are recording in every

1909
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:41,000
second moment and every breath
and heartbeat, a walk with God

1910
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:44,360
just as equally as I am.
You are my brother and we have

1911
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:46,360
to sit together.
We have.

1912
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,200
To do it together.
Thank you.

1913
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:50,880
Beautiful stuff.
So.

1914
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:54,040
Before you go, I would like to
share with you just something

1915
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,320
that's found in 3rd Nephi
Chapter 16, All right.

1916
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:04,600
OK, go ahead.
So this is third. 3rd Nephi

1917
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,960
chapter 16, starting at verse
10.

1918
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,680
And because of the mercies of
the Father and to the Gentiles,

1919
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:14,520
and also the judgments of the
Father upon my people who are of

1920
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:18,720
the House of Israel, verily,
verily, I say unto you, that

1921
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,480
after all this, and I have
caused my people, who are of the

1922
01:39:21,480 --> 01:39:25,520
House of Israel, to be smitten,
and to be afflicted, and to be

1923
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,840
slain.
And on 13. 5/16.

1924
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,800
I'm starting with 9.
Because it means more to me.

1925
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:32,960
OK, go ahead.
Sorry.

1926
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:34,520
I didn't realize you were
starting in nine.

1927
01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:38,600
OK.
OK and I have caused my.

1928
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,280
People, or of the House of
Israel, to be smitten, and to be

1929
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:44,880
afflicted, and to be slain, and
to be cast out from among them,

1930
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:48,880
and to become hated by them, and
to become a hiss and a byword

1931
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,800
among them.
And thus commandeth the Father,

1932
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:53,760
that I shall.
Let's stop right there.

1933
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,360
Who do you think the Lord is
talking about there?

1934
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:58,920
Us.
He's talking about you.

1935
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,160
Exactly.
Now this is where it gets

1936
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:06,280
interesting in verse 10.
And thus commandeth the.

1937
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:09,680
Father, that I should say unto
you at that day when a Gentiles

1938
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,560
shall sin against my gospel,
and.

1939
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,600
Shall reject the fullness.
Of my Gospel, and shall be

1940
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,560
lifted up in the pride of their
hearts above all nations, and

1941
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,320
above all people of the whole
Earth.

1942
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,880
And shall be filled with all
manner of lyings, and of

1943
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:28,400
deceits, and of mischiefs, and
all manner of hypocrisy, and

1944
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,360
murders, and priests, crafts,
and whoredoms, and of secret

1945
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,480
abominations.
And if they shall do all those

1946
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:38,520
things, and shall reject the
fullness of my gospel, behold,

1947
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:42,000
saith the Father, I will bring
the fullness of my gospel from

1948
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,040
among them.
And then will I remember my

1949
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:49,280
covenant which I have made unto
my people, O House of Israel.

1950
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:51,840
And I will bring my gospel unto
them.

1951
01:40:52,480 --> 01:40:55,720
And I will show unto thee, O
House of Israel, that the

1952
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,800
Gentiles shall not have power
over you.

1953
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:02,560
But I will remember my covenant
unto you, O House of Israel, and

1954
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,600
ye shall come unto the knowledge
of the fullness of my gospel.

1955
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:08,760
It's going to be yours.
But if the gentiles.

1956
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:12,480
Will repent and return unto Me,
Say at the Father, Behold, they

1957
01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:16,160
shall be numbered among My
house, among My people, the

1958
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,240
House of Israel.
And I will not suffer My people

1959
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,960
who were of the House of Israel,
to go to go through among them

1960
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:24,920
and tread them down.
Say at the Father.

1961
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:29,600
But if they will not turn unto
Me and hearken unto My voice, I

1962
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:31,920
will suffer them.
Yeah, I will suffer My people, O

1963
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:36,000
House of Israel, that they shall
go through among them, and shall

1964
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,560
tread them down.
And they shall be as salt that

1965
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:44,360
hath lost its savour, which is
thenceforth good for nothing but

1966
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:48,680
to be cast out and to be trodden
under foot of My people, O House

1967
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:51,360
of Israel.
Verily, verily, I say unto you

1968
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:55,400
thus.
That this is important.

1969
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,320
This is vastly.
Important and let me explain to

1970
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:02,400
you why, because it's my
understanding here and now this

1971
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,160
is where I'm going to get spicy.
And and before you said this is

1972
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:10,360
not Dave the Mormon renegade
talking, this is Chief Migoda.

1973
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:12,800
This time I'm going to say this
is not you talking.

1974
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:19,320
This is me.
I believe that a large portion.

1975
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,440
Of the Church, I want to be
careful here, has rejected the

1976
01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:26,040
fullness, it has rejected
certain teachings, certain

1977
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,840
practices.
If that happened.

1978
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:34,000
What did the Lord say would then
have to happen when the Gentiles

1979
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,600
rejected the back to the House
of Israel?

1980
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,160
Go right back to the.
House of Israel and in this

1981
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:40,720
context, who's he talking about
with the House of Israel?

1982
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,320
Talking about the native.
Americans sent off into.

1983
01:42:44,440 --> 01:42:46,360
Exile.
And that's us, that's my family,

1984
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,280
and that's the Native American.
Right now.

1985
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,040
That's exactly right.
And I think it's super important

1986
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,200
that we breakdown that he's not
talking about a portion of the

1987
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:56,920
fullness.
He is talking about the

1988
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,240
fullness.
Now.

1989
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:05,200
Chief quite frankly, all of
Mormonism LDS fundamentalist

1990
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,920
we've all fallen down on this.
We have not taken the gospel

1991
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:15,560
like we should have to the to
Lehigh seed our brethren the.

1992
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,040
Gospel has been.
Rejected.

1993
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:21,120
It's now time to take it back to
the seed of Lehigh, back to the

1994
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:25,880
House of Israel.
And as a believing Mormon who

1995
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:29,600
feels this, look, I'm a lazy guy
by nature, and I'm a pretty

1996
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,320
worldly guy.
Like, left to my own devices, my

1997
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,760
butts planted on the couch
watching football, eating

1998
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,120
Doritos.
But I feel this stuff to my

1999
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:40,360
core.
And because of that, I feel

2000
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:43,880
there's a responsibility we have
to take the gospel to your

2001
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:49,280
people in its fullness.
And that's where I feel like me

2002
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:53,760
and people like me can help
facilitate in this is being able

2003
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,160
to bring that if you think
that's something that would be

2004
01:43:56,160 --> 01:44:02,000
worthwhile and help.
Yeah, absolutely you.

2005
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:06,520
Know the, the the the there are
sacred things that that I had an

2006
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,520
elder one time tell me, he said
what what must Mary have known?

2007
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:14,000
So there are sacred.
So there are sacred things that

2008
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,800
we all experience in our life
that we don't utilize as a

2009
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,880
lightning rod to draw attention
to us because it would take away

2010
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,400
from the message, right?
OK.

2011
01:44:23,480 --> 01:44:24,400
I.
Know the.

2012
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:28,720
Errand that I'm on, I know the
outcome of the trail that I'm

2013
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:32,440
on.
I know that there's drops adding

2014
01:44:32,440 --> 01:44:36,120
to a cloud that's going to rain
and renew the desert

2015
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:40,280
spiritually.
And.

2016
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:48,200
Anybody who will lift up from
that sea that's sitting flat

2017
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:50,120
and.
Chose to lift.

2018
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,960
Up with those other drops of
water that are reaching for

2019
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:56,560
something higher.
They're now assisting and.

2020
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,080
Forming the cloud.
If you're assisting, you're a.

2021
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:04,360
Drop of water in that cloud.
That's the flat, stale sea.

2022
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,440
What are you doing leaving?
Right, Right.

2023
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:10,760
Then we're going to move
together.

2024
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:12,280
Yep.
And when?

2025
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,000
We move.
Together, we're going to get

2026
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,200
somewhere, and when we get.
Somewhere.

2027
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,800
It's just going to be a point
where there's only one more drop

2028
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:22,920
of water, right, Right.
And the rainfalls.

2029
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:27,160
So that's why it's interesting
that you just mentioned that

2030
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:31,440
right now and you can keep this
in and it's OK, I sit.

2031
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:32,760
At the table of.
Every person.

2032
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,600
No one can tell me who I can't
sit with and talk with, because

2033
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,560
every single person is equally
connected in every moment with

2034
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,440
the Creator of all things, my
Father in heaven and yours,

2035
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:45,920
regardless of where they are
found right or the place they're

2036
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,160
in, or the piece of paper in
their hand.

2037
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,240
We're trying to learn how to.
Communicate and get the

2038
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:55,400
blessings back right?
We want to be like.

2039
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:59,200
We want to be like Abraham.
We want to be like Isaac and

2040
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:01,560
Jacob.
We want to have unnatural

2041
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,600
success.
Because we're walking with.

2042
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:08,760
The Creator, who is our friend,
right?

2043
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,160
And so so you.
Allowed.

2044
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:16,840
Me to share project 24, which
explains to you how in two years

2045
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:22,040
we will get there, but at the
core of that, the spine of that.

2046
01:46:23,480 --> 01:46:26,800
Is returning.
Back into the realization that

2047
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:31,520
we are walking within the House
of the Lord, and we should do so

2048
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,560
with respect.
And that requires.

2049
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,600
Accountability.
It requires action.

2050
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:42,400
It requires us to be the thick
side of the feather to stop the

2051
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:46,320
descent and to start the ascent,
right.

2052
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,680
And so you enabled that to come
out.

2053
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,840
You enabled to talk about.
So yes, you can sit at my table

2054
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:56,800
anytime and and we can do these
things together as brothers.

2055
01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:58,360
We're trying to go back to that
wampum.

2056
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,920
I shared it for a reason.
The the brothers holding hands.

2057
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,560
One human family.
Right.

2058
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:06,120
And so.
Yes.

2059
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,040
We, we, we know that the great
Lodge will be restored.

2060
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:14,560
I have and you can keep this in.
I have stood before it in vision

2061
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:19,320
and touched it with my hands.
With my hands and.

2062
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:26,280
It was living, living because
it's our responsibility to act

2063
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:31,920
in a way to allow the Creator to
manifest in His house in His

2064
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:36,520
full form and glory, and to
bless us with unnatural success

2065
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,520
in every single moment.
But we are the reason that can't

2066
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:42,480
happen.
Yep.

2067
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:44,800
We aren't the reason.
Now we have.

2068
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:46,760
That means we have to remember
the six directions.

2069
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:48,960
And this does matter.
This isn't some weird Indian

2070
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:52,560
thing because you get it.
And I understand why you are.

2071
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:56,880
How you are, and I am too.
But when you stand anywhere in

2072
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,920
your house or outside, you got a
direction to your, to your E, to

2073
01:47:59,920 --> 01:48:02,960
your S, to your W, to your N,
the sky above and the earth

2074
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:06,480
below.
You're in a structure, right?

2075
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:10,000
Filled with atoms, these atoms
out there everywhere, and they

2076
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:11,520
accumulate little building
blocks, right?

2077
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:15,920
And then you have a ball of fire
that slice a flaming sword over

2078
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,800
us.
It's shooting these things that.

2079
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,040
Bounce off of these atoms that
there's more space than there

2080
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:21,960
are them.
We have a.

2081
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,160
We have a veil.
Yep, over.

2082
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:25,800
Us like a.
Flaming Sword, We can't see

2083
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,240
what's right before us.
We need.

2084
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:29,320
That to be.
Removed.

2085
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,840
We've been given the tools and
the knowledge and information

2086
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,600
generationally for thousands of
years to know how to do that.

2087
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:38,120
But we have to choose to
willfully.

2088
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:43,840
Participate in doing it right
now, right now, right now, and

2089
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:46,680
He is going to manifest
something so magnificent amongst

2090
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:49,800
my people.
That it's going to allow.

2091
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:54,120
All people to come home.
To come home and.

2092
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:59,240
That's what we want to happen.
So yes, awesome.

2093
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,920
Good stuff.
I can't, I can't tell you how

2094
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,600
how much I appreciate you being
here.

2095
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,840
Let's you and I keep talking
throughout this 'cause we really

2096
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:13,320
do need to finish up and it's
more than just me.

2097
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,680
Now they say I'll I'll close
with this.

2098
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:22,280
I was in tri-state Memorial
Hospital at 5 1/2 years old.

2099
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:26,800
This is in Clarkston, WA.
My tongue was.

2100
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:31,720
Completely severed, struggled
for a long time.

2101
01:49:33,440 --> 01:49:38,240
OK, we want to know the power of
God, the power that we should

2102
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:40,000
call into our lives every single
day.

2103
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:47,920
Right When those elders tribal,
we didn't forget the Father.

2104
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:52,800
They gave me a blessing, and
they called forth my sword.

2105
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:56,280
And it is.
It has enabled.

2106
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,680
Me to do amazing things in my
life amidst failures that would

2107
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:03,080
collapse anybody else's life.
And it's there for a reason.

2108
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,240
And.
It may seem sharp.

2109
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:08,160
And it may seem harsh, and it
may seem a reality check because

2110
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:11,080
I'm turning off the television
of lies.

2111
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,520
Presenting the truth so.
We can see, we stand on this on

2112
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:19,560
a firm foundation and we see
clear, right, Right.

2113
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,840
It's for a reason.
It's for you to know.

2114
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:23,880
Who you?
Are.

2115
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:28,200
So that you.
Can choose to be a drop of water

2116
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:31,520
that participates in making a
cloud to bring the rain that

2117
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,800
renews all things and we will
bring.

2118
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:37,160
Heaven.
To this earth, they say, and you

2119
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,880
believe the celestial Kingdom
will be here.

2120
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:43,360
That's the full.
Manifestation of the Creator

2121
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,960
who's he made the seventh
direction your spirit in, but

2122
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,400
he's on the other side of it.
That flaming sword from that

2123
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:52,800
sun, those photons that fire
before us, that makes a 7.

2124
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:56,520
The seven band rainbow.
Right, he's on.

2125
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,080
The other side wanting to come
here.

2126
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,760
Wanting to be here.
And manifest here and he shows

2127
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:05,560
us his beauty with all the
flowers and all the trees and

2128
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:08,280
the nature, even hugging your
child, right?

2129
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,160
These are little drops from Him.
He wants to be here.

2130
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:13,200
I.
Need people like.

2131
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,800
You to help.
Share that.

2132
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:17,480
And make.
That.

2133
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,440
Happen right?
Do you understand?

2134
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:24,280
Without drawing attention.
And saying, oh, it's all about

2135
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:25,520
me.
No, it's every single one of us.

2136
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,240
No.
No.

2137
01:51:27,480 --> 01:51:28,960
No, we're all Adam and we're
all.

2138
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:32,960
Eve this this is one.
Of those things where, where we

2139
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,440
could essentially pass these
things on and then get out of

2140
01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:37,880
your way.
We're not here to exercise

2141
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:41,720
control.
We're not here to to tell you

2142
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,880
how to do things right.
If you have questions, we'd love

2143
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,360
to help.
But other than that, we just

2144
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:51,200
want to pass these teachings on,
take the fullness back, and then

2145
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,040
get out of your way to let you
do what it is you need to do.

2146
01:51:56,520 --> 01:52:00,200
So that offer?
Stands and yeah, let's just keep

2147
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:03,560
talking and working.
I appreciate it really.

2148
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:05,000
All right.
All right.

2149
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:37,720
Bye everybody.
You're listening to the Mormon

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01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,040
Renegade podcast.