Episode #68: Exploring the Feast Of Shavuot/The Feast Of Pentecost, The Conclusion Of The Jewish Calendar Series W/Joshua Erickson

0:05 There are many teachings in the restored gospel that make us unique. However, none of those could be as important as our emphasis on making covenants with God, on this episode of the podcast, I have Joshua Erickson on again as we conclude our Jewish calendar series by wrapping up with the Feast of Shavuot. Also called The Feast of Pentecost. We break down its scriptural history and its significance. In terms of making covenants with God, stick around for that and more on this episode of the Mormon Renegade podcast, There is no doubt as a general rule, Mormons are a real social people and there's no better place to connect with other people than that conference is devoted to Mormonism with that said, there's one coming up that I can't recommend highly enough and that is the restoration tour conference. It is happening this year on May 26th and 27th and wind in Utah. Many speakers.

0:57 You will hear. There have been on this podcast. They include Jacob adrene Hannah, Stoddard Taylor, Smith Joshua Erickson, Kimberly Smith, myself and more. Go to Restoration Torah conference dot-org, or click on the link in this episode page notes to find out how you can attend. You're listening to the Mormon Renegade podcast. Joshua, there's big stuff coming going on man. Sounds like you're going to be be hosting the restoration tour conference, right?

1:52 Yeah. That's right. Not mean necessarily but the the 00 him with Foundation is, of course, I'm involved in the secretary for the zarahemla foundation. But yeah, this will be, we're coming up on the restoration Torah conference and this will be our fourth year, nice of doing it. The restoration Torah conference this year is going to be The 26th and 27th of May, which is a Friday and Saturday and those are the, those are the two days, right? Before the Feast of Shavuot, which is what we're talking about now, which is what we're talking about today. Yep. So which is why we're bringing up the conference. So it's kind of part of our Shavuot Observance, let's say our celebration and I said it's been going on for we're going on our fourth year now and we have some really interesting speakers.

2:47 The theme this year is going to be the Torah which is for those of you are listening, you don't know, the Torah is the five books of Moses Genesis through Deuteronomy. So the Torah in the Doctrine and Covenants and church history and there's a lot there and we're going to have some excellent speakers. Hers, as I mentioned, Hannah Stoddard, Kimberly Smith Taylor Smith, Jacob adrene yourself. Yep, I'm going to be there myself as well and so and a bunch of other good folks to. So yeah, I highly recommend it. I was there last year and it was just absolutely awesome. I really enjoyed myself while I was there now.

3:29 Real quick. What about cost was it cost? Yeah. I'm glad you asked that. The conference is free. So anyone can attend, we do ask for and even encourage donations, but we do not want finances to keep anyone from coming. There's, there's no pressure, no Stigma attached. If you can't donate or or can only donate a little or whatever, but we do want people to come and participate. It's going to be we're going to gather in person. It's going to be in Lindon Utah. We're having it at the camera. Adam e, which is where we've had at the last last year's as well.

4:13 Though, the Kimber Academy formerly was in Lehi, at least this branch of the can break out of me, but they move to Linden and we decided to go with their locations. Still, this is our Hamill Foundation is not associated or affiliated with the Kimber Academy, but they have been very accommodating and so that's awesome. Yeah. And then what about a website or something that they can go to that table? Yes. You want to read about the conference, get tickets, go to Restoration, Torah conference dot, org orgy, restoration toward conference dot-org, and there, you'll find information about the conference. You can see past conferences, you can see the speakers for this conference, get the schedule, the speaker's, you know, the titles of their talks. So kind of what they're going to be speaking on. And also there's a link there to register. You can also, Donate their to there's information about donating when you go to register. Keep in mind that there are several different kinds of tickets.

5:19 So we it's going to be two days and the tickets for Friday. And the tickets for Saturday are separate tickets. So you're coming to both and be sure that you click on both those options of, and, of course, you can come to one or the other or both. We also are going to be serving. Lunch there for those who are attending. So if you want to hang out speak, talk with the speakers, you have questions about the presentations or just want to meet with other interesting people, then that would be a nice opportunity to do that. And then also there's two other tickets, there's to get for a conference Journal, which is actually a going to be a paperback, but physical copy of the presentations will make a form of the presentations so that you can refer to that later on for further study or whatever. And also, there will be a zoom option. To we prefer people attend in person, we can have the fellowship there, but for some people, it's just impractical. There are people who are out of state who will be attending by Zoom.

6:31 So nice, you know, as fundamentalist especially fundamentalist that have come out of the LDS Church. There's a lot of missing the social aspect. A lot of times right there can be. Yeah and he isolated. Yeah. And so these kind of things are in my opinion, just super important, right? It's going to let you meet other fundamentalist, it's going to it's going to help you adjust widen, those circles. And and I think it's one of those things that can't be overstated enough. Just how important they are when they come around. Yeah. And then like things like the Book of Mormon evidence conference which Which is great. I love going. There's very few things just for fundamentalist, so to speak right now.

7:14 Obviously, we have a couple speakers coming up at that, that that are mainstream. Yes, and this is great. This is not, this is not a fundamentalist thing, right? So and actually, I'm glad that this kind of brought up got brought up because a lot of times when you go to someone else's event you kind of do know, kind of feel like the the new guy, you know, and we're not quite sure what the the normal has social cues are and things or how the meeting is going to be run and stuff. But this is this is really a non-denominational thing and we're going to have folks there from half a dozen different, branches of the restoration, both in the audience and also at the pulpit giving talks.

8:01 So don't feel Don't feel like an outsider, everyone. Everyone there is new and it's just yeah. A good chance, too. meet and rub shoulders with other good, folks, absolutely fellowship and some friendship and yeah you know, and Social intellectual and spiritual stimulation. Absolutely, absolutely. No, it's always a good time. And I encourage everyone listening to go. I think it's absolutely fantastic. There are still tickets available. Yes. Yeah. I think, actually, I have not looked at the count recently but the venue has room for several hundred.

8:46 Okay, we're probably right now, the pickets are probably at I would say 50 or 60. So we've got plenty right. Yeah, good deal. Good deal. Go get your tickets folks and that's a good time. You'll you'll be glad you went. So, So Ron to I'm not uh, I pronounce it. This time I screwed it up. Is a great. You the Greek, the Pentecost Anacostia. Yep. We're we're, we're onto the Feast of Pentecost also known as shovel. I won't even pretend to try to post shovel. It's an easy one. But yeah, Shavuot is is the Hebrew word for weeks.

9:28 One week in Hebrew is Shibuya and then we pluralize it. You pluralize in Hebrew, when you pluralize feminine words, then, oftentimes, you add a note to the N. So, like Sukkot for example, a single Tabernacle is a sukkah and Tabernacles is Sukkot, okay? And a single week is shoveling and weeks is Shavuot, and then when you have masculine terms, then often times their pluralized the e, Oh yeah, like Elohim. Yep, your arm for the as a common example that people know. So why is it called Shavuot or weeks because of the timing and Shavuot is is an interesting piece because of all the biblical, all the biblical holy days, they all have a specific date associated with them.

10:28 So Passover is on the 14th day of the first month, Feast of unleavened bread. Bread begins on the 15th day of the first month Hanukkah is on the 25th day of the ninth month. Yom Kippur is on the tenth day of the seventh month. And so, on through all the piece that we've talked about, they all have that specific date associated with them, except for shovel of travel. It's Unique because you actually determine when Shavuot is by by counting seven weeks. That's where we get Shavuot seven weeks and, and the day.

11:08 So 50, which is 50 days, which is where the Greek Pentecost comes from count, 50 days from when The Barley was harvested for the near the beginning of the barley Harvest now. So which means that there is a little bit of variability to when exactly shovel load fall. Owls on the calendar and there's actually controversy about that that goes back to ancient times, the Pharisees and the Sadducees actually disagreed about when Shavuot should be observed. But they were close to one another. It was, it was basically, it was The Barley Harvest, and it was The Barley Harvest kind of begins, or the, the first, the sheet, the first Sheaf of barley is offered in connection with Passover and the Feast of unleavened bread happens around that time and then then we count those seven weeks or 50 days. Those you can count it either way and you should end up at the same date and that is The Feast of shuffling. So now, why are we, why are we having a conference during Shavuot?

12:29 Why is that a, why is that a, you know, an appropriate thing to do? Well, in the Torah there's three times in the year when they're supposed to everyone's supposed to gather. And those three times R1 in the springtime at the Feast of unleavened bread to in the fall time at the Feast of Tabernacles and then and we kind of as as Latter-Day Saints as Mormons we kind of do those or at least the LDS church does. And I think a lot of the other branches kind of either have their own conferences, you know, in the spring and in the fall April and October and they don't always As match up exactly with unleavened bread and Tabernacles, but there's definitely a very strong Echo there. If you're listening, you can hear the echo of those ancient Israelite things.

13:23 So but then, the third one is in is kind of cost. And that's kind of in early like late spring, Early. Some of maybe we might even say that it's usually before the solstice so still in so late spring, I guess. And no one really was doing anything for that. So I figured we talked here. So let's have a, let's get together and talk about the Torah and and specifically list we want to talk about it through the lens of the restoration. We want, we want to we want to understand the Torah through the lens of the restoration and likewise we want to understand the restoration through the lens of the Torah because it could because there ought to be a Harmony through the revelations that God has given throughout all the dispensations.

14:21 And and I have found that there certainly is and those things mesh together in the beautiful way and there's amazing things that we can learn and so that's what this conference is going to be all about. I don't know if I mentioned it, I think I mentioned if I didn't, I'll mention it again. This year, the theme of the conference is going to be the Torah in the Doctrine and Covenants and church history. So there's quite a bit there and on this podcast in other other feast days, I've consistently brought up applications and fulfillments these. Holy days in light of the restoration, you know, significant dates or happenings or Difficult doctrinal things that just kind of mesh beautifully with these. So so I think there's some rich or there to mine as far as this year's this year's theme.

15:19 So, so, you know, what is, what is the shadow all about? What is it celebrating well? Like, many of the things, there's just kind of multiple levels. There's kind of a physical understanding, their spiritual understandings and oftentimes, there's there's remembrances where we're commemorating something that's happened in the past something that God has done for for us who are people. And also, we're looking forward to the future and prophetic fulfillment of these things. And so on, on the most basic level, the Feast of Shavuot is the beginning of the wheat Harvest. So that, that 50-day count that kind of starts around Passover and unleavened bread, that's kind of the beginning of the barley Harvest and that goes for those seven weeks and then the wheat kind of comes in that's the next and and shovel out kind of more marks the beginning of that. So so it's a time to bring offerings to the temple in ancient times No, we're those always sacrificed or was there like a storehouse or something for the poor that someone that would go into?

16:40 Yeah, absolutely Storehouse for the poor. Yeah, sacrifices of animals were an animal sacrifices. Only part of it actually. Every every animal, every, or most at least, animal sacrifices also had grain flour, and oil and wine, you know, and other other. Err Commodities in sense of various kinds, right? Offered along with them. And a lot of that would go to would go to the maintenance of the temple and the priests that were running it full time and also, and also they would be Storehouse exactly right where that stuff would go to care for the poor. And so on, Wow, it tells you how bad things must have gotten in the savior's time that he Like he then needed to cleanse the temple, right?

17:35 I mean, how bad did things get to where probably I can only imagine that Storehouse was probably neglected. Some what I mean? If he's upset about the money going on in there? Yeah, I don't think there was. You know, it's like so many things. The, the thing itself is is not a good nor bad right when he is neutral, right? Money's not the problem. The love of money is the is the realization, right? Yeah, so and we could, you can say that about so many other about about every inanimate thing, right?

18:16 So yeah, I think that there was definitely abuse is happening in the temple. I think people were, you know, who knows what was happening. I mean, there's, I've Heard lots of conjectures. I even heard one the other day says, that the there in the temple that they were taking people's gold and silver, and exchanging info fiat currency and like, giving them paper really paper notes. I don't know the reference for that by giving them, you know, paper script that says, you know, this is good for So many ounces of silver or whatever, and Jesus thought that was wicked. You and I, if that was what was happening, I would agree. But anyway, there's some sort of corruption was happening. Yeah.

19:01 And that was, that's interesting. When he, he clean cleanse the his father's house as clean my father's house, he turned into it a den of Thieves, right? Yep. But that was a, even that Has. Is connected to these because that was during Passover, right? And are leading up to it and you're supposed to clean your houses from 11:00. So he was just keeping the Commandments. He's cleaning the house of the wickedness, right? You know of 11 which ends in the spiritual counterpart. Counterpart of Lebanon is is corruption, right? Because these false ideas and and and saying and so on, at least that's the kind of the standard understanding. So so we can understand that to the lens of these feast days. It's amazing, amazing.

19:58 How it all ties together. Now so that's so the physic, there's this physical component which is the hardest and there's a spiritual component to do and Shavuot is is basically Covenant making name for God. And the the one that's most commonly thought of is the Covenant at Mount Sinai. When God came down smoke fire lightning, right? The the sound of the shofar rushing of Mighty Wind and a frightening experience. Now in Exodus, it doesn't actually say that this was at trouble road but it's it's very tempting to connect these events and And I believe that's correct. As I said Shavuot doesn't have a specific day but when you, when you start counting around the middle of the first month, that's when Passover and unleavened bread, begin you start counting in the middle of the first month and you go, 50 days, you end up like in the first week of the third month, right?

21:07 At the beginning of the third month and when they come into the Wilderness at like the base of Mount Sinai, says, it was right at the beginning of the third month. One of this. Happen. So, so beautiful things there. Of course, from a premier restoration point of view. Well, let me back up in the scriptures this event, what happened at Mount Sinai is symbolically a marriage. this is when Is when Jehovah took the people of Israel as his bride and married them.

21:49 And the Covenant that was given was a covenant of marriage and you know the law that was given was there ketubah. So ketubah is the Jewish wedding contract, right. But the beautiful thing about that is that this in, in the Jewish mind, this is kind of like the This is the Coleman it was. It's almost the culmination of Salvation. They're looking forward to the Messiah coming as well, which will be the culmination, but receiving the receiving the Torah. That's that's like you like it's a done deal. Like the marriages is complete here. And so when you look at the what happened to Israel, they went right through these first principles and ordinances of the Gospel, you know? Go from there in Egypt, which is sin and bondage and all that. And they exercised faith in Jesus is the lamb and they don't do anything at first.

22:50 Except I mean, they do put you put the blood on their door but basically just wait and watch after they've put the blood of Jesus on themselves on their houses then they wait and watch and at that takes them, that gets them out of Egypt and that's kind of repentance is Faith and then there's repentance A sentence like you don't apply the blood of Jesus and then stay where you are. No. Right. Repentance requires you to move? Yeah, rip trip to turn at least to turn around and face a different direction, right? Yeah, I know. And it talks about that Paul talks about that quite a bit, right? As if you're a Believer, you should expect to see these things, right? And young people doing these things and it, to be honest with you, it was one of the drawers to Mormonism, right?

23:35 For me. I have this the rest of Christendom kind of I shouldn't say the rest but the vast majority of Christendom has this idea of you you accept Jesus into your heart and from there you just show up and throw a couple bucks in the offering plate and you're good to go. Okay yeah yeah which is weird for me because I'm lazy enough that that sounded like a good deal up front, right? But yeah, no I thought there should have been a little more to Salvation and you're going to be a A saint. Yeah. And it requires relationship. Yeah. And it requires some work on your part. Which. Yeah. And relationships to us. Yep, absolutely. So, so on the first day of unleavened bread, they they exercise, you know, the principle of repentance and they leave Egypt and then, but, you know, Egypt has we talked about this in the past, everything right? Egypt Egypt represents your friends. We're a spiritual sense is well, your friends and your enemies, both whoo.

24:37 You do not want to see you do good. Because who knows? Why? Because they're missing out on their, they're drinking buddy, because it makes them feel bad about their own sins to see someone else repenting and they'd rather just whatever it. Whatever. The reason is, there are people that when you repent, they will want to drag you back and so Anyway. So, of course, we knew Pharaoh eventually gives Chase. And on the seventh day of unleavened bread, this is when they go through the Red Sea. And so, they're actually baptized in a symbolic sense. Israel is baptized there. And of course, the Egyptians are drowned and washed away, and they finally leave Egypt behind.

25:24 And then not only are they baptized, but they also have gift of the Holy Ghost because they have this Pillar of Fire, right? Fire is connected in the scriptures. Symbolically with the Holy Ghost? Holy Ghost is fire. The Holy Ghost is also. When right, a are right and so they have a cloud and fire to guide them through the Wilderness and the Wilderness is, of course, just this Enduring to the end kind of, right? Which is Gospel principles to write that comes next, is you just, and you just keep walking the walk. And, and then eventually they get to the mountain and it takes them 50 days from Passover until they get to the mountain.

26:09 And then, and then there comes their marriage, right? And this is this, just goes along with with Mormonism to, right? You go through the ordinances And you know the highest ordinance is. His marriage is C, right? Yeah. Day. That is the crowning. Well it's almost the crown almost the crowns are loosing, the crowning and then but there's there's a thickening long second lien which actually is is in story of Shavuot as well because God gives them the Covenant. And then he says, now everyone come up to the mountain and I want to meet with you actually face to face.

26:50 Now that's that's where Israel said, this is, this is getting to these relationships, too serious for us, right? Right. And said we want most go up for us, right? And so he does and they reject that that offer. But that was that was extended and and so Moses goes up, he actually gets tablets and brings them down and of course, by then the people have Just broken the Covenant. Barry just made didn't take them long at all. I mean, I like to be called the children of Israel for. You know, I look at it two ways, right? First off I'm like morons.

27:37 I mean, he just let you through an ocean, right? He led you through the Red Sea, do you, he's there, he's present, he's working, you know, and the other part of me though, makes me wonder just How much of that was just societal scarring? Oh, absolutely, where where they're like, you know, because they don't people have been slaves. Yeah, a do not know how to think for themselves. And they've had this guy Moses around, who's kind of been calling the shots? Yeah, and now he's gone. And it's almost like a reversion back into to that old way of thinking. Yeah, yeah.

28:18 No, that's exactly right. I mean, the Ation really was and this is, this is the invitation to any free people write in a way. Is, how does that I want a nation of priests priests? Yeah, yep. And and but children, Israel said we just want weeks Moses. We just want you to be our the guy we just want to, you know, abdicate our responsibility. To, yeah. And that's the, that's the that's the struggle. That's always a struggle between freedom and tyranny is, will you hand over your rights and responsibilities to some guy that you think is going to do right by you?

29:09 Or you going to take responsibility for yourself and your actions and meet and go up and meet this God yourself? You know, I speak. Yeah. No, I, yeah, I absolutely find it. Fascinating that, that you're right. It is the It's the Crux of the matter. And as you look back through the breath of human history, Mankind's default operating system so to speak, is that is one of tyranny, right? Being rude as it is even even default. I think I like how you said that even if you look at you know a quote a benevolent dictator, right? It's still a tyranny of some sort, whether you find it Pleasant or not, it's still somebody else making those decisions for you.

29:54 And Took me a long time to wrap my head around this thing where you know it speaks of freedom and that sort of thing. And I'm like how can that be Freedom, right? Because you're you're still under, you know, the you know the Yoke of Christ sodas being, right? The thing is is that there's no real freedom without some sort of discipline or else tyranny. Again, begins to come forward Terrain in the insanity. So I think there's so many interesting parallels and just as a side note I took my top that I'll be giving in at the tour conference.

30:35 Way, I did, I hadn't planned on as I sat down to write, it went to divide itself. It would it did write itself in a way like I have the text all rode out before I inserted the pictures or anything else, right? Um, but there were a couple things that I found interesting especially as we've been talking about the the the Feast of Pentecost here is that my talk is really heavily Laden. Did with Laden with the idea of covenants. Again really heavily weighted very appropriate. Yeah. Which I had no idea, right? And then to hear you talk about it.

31:15 It's just you know one of those coincidences that aren't really coincidence. It's right. Yeah, I just happened to have bumped my head that morning and was listening to the spirit, so doesn't happen often. But when it does, it's always works out. So, yeah, I find it interesting that there's so much of Israel story, that's our story. So yeah. And and I think, I think this is just one of those continuation of that that we are there. If not, if not literal descendants, which I kind of think many of us are, if not, if not literal, we are certainly the spiritual inheritors, you know. I think there's something I think we are. If you look at all the things that Joseph said about Ephraim being here and like I said, I've had a couple of friends from who are Jewish, who said, oh yeah, that's the reason we feel so comfortable in America is because there are times. We feel like we're amongst family here. Yeah, so, yeah, I definitely do believe that there. There's those literal descendants, you know, it's the Book of Mormon, The Book of Mormon calls us and talk, right? I don't think that means.

32:32 I don't think that means anything about our lineage though, right? Because we know we know what tribes Lehi, and Ishmael were phone. They were they were just effects, right? Lehi was from a NASA. Ishmael was from Ephraim. And yet Nephi refers to like the descendants of Lehi in the Book of Mormon, they are referred to as Jews, right? And But actually is a criticism of the book one for some people because they're not from the tribe of Judah, but that's not what Jews means. It can carry that connotation but Jew means from the kingdom of Judah, okay?

33:23 In other words, the southern Kingdom. So, everyone, from the southern Kingdom, everyone who comes from, the southern kingdom is June, and we can see that in the good old Bible, right Esther and Mordecai. In the Book of Esther, they are explicitly mentioned as being from The Tribe of Benjamin, and yet, they are Jews because they're not because they're from the tribe of Judah, but because they're from the southern Kingdom of Judah, right? So, that's a, that's a national designation. Not a lineal designation, gotcha. So, when the Book of Mormon calls us, Gentiles, it's not saying something about our lineage is saying something about the nation's that we came from.

34:04 Okay. Alright. November Gentiles. Because We came from Gentile Nations dude. I'm so because we're Gentiles by Lincoln, right? I'm so glad you brought that up because that's something I've struggled with. I'm like, how are we both? Because with most things, it's funny. My cock starts out this way to, with most things. I tend to answer a question or ask a question. Yeah, and figuring. It's an either/or answer and usually, it's not, usually it's in and quit, you know, the answer. Right. And I think, yeah, that's beautiful because I've wondered that All times myself. Like how are we both? Both Gentiles, right. We hear about that. In the Book of Mormon, the coming forth of, you know, the Stick of Joseph onto the the Gentiles. Yeah.

34:49 But then, You go, like 3rd Nephi 16 and it talks about. Well, when the Gentiles fully reject, the gospel, then we'll go back to the house of Israel. And I'm like, okay. So does that mean if we've screwed up as a people, does that mean that we can't access those anymore? Well, that doesn't make sense. That doesn't fit with who I know God is. So yeah, no, I think that's beautiful the way you said that it doesn't necessarily speak of our lineage, more of our nationality. Yeah, so I think there's there's an interplay between. Yep. Two senses of both Gentile can be used in two senses, right there is a genealogical and also a national sense and also Israel and you those also have both nationalistic and genealogical senses of the word.

35:36 So I want actually while we're talking about Sia it is changing the subject a little no not good. I want to I want to mention job LL laws. Have you heard of Jebel? Ali has I have not so the Bella laws is a mountain in Saudi Arabia. Which I believe is the correct location for Mount Zion, okay? Which is there's some controversy over this. And, you know, if you look in the maps in the back of the LDS Bible, it will, it has a little pin there on a Mount Sinai.

36:18 With a question mark by I think because it is kind of disputed. But that is the, that is the traditional Christian view but that just came about from Constantine's mother Saint Catherine. She went through and said this mountain here is, was where the children of Israel, you know, receive the Covenant at Sinai. She did that in a lot of places in the Middle East. She has prolific at being able, she was either a Seer or she was just directly Inhale octane are either way. I mean some of them she got correct. Probably, but I mean other other ones you gotta like, how do you know you have a problem with problem? With there's a monastery there in st. Catharines at the bottom.

37:01 And so the problem with that traditional site is twofold one it that mountain is actually in Egypt still But they have had left Egypt and the New Testament. Paul says that Sinai is in Arabia in median. Not right. So in Midian is where Saudi Arabia Midian was were Saudi Arabia is, which would also make sense because that's where Moses father-in-law with, right? That's exactly right. Yeah. Which would make sense, right? Yep. Yep. Yep. So and right. Yeah Moses goes up Sinai the first time At least the first significant time when he's tending Jethro's, people? Or maybe they were issued by.

37:47 Then I remember Yeah, that was a medium. So so Jeb LL laws is the the Arabic name for this? This mountain there, the other problem, besides the location that is consistent with what the scriptures say is. There's also archaeological problems at the traditional site in Egypt. There's basically zero archaeological evidence that Israelites were ever there. But at the job L AA site. There's a host of both archaeological and geological evidence to like, for example, the the top of this mountain is is blackened, like it was on fire or something. There's a big Split Rock up at the top or near the top. There are ancient Hebrew inscriptions, paleo-hebrew, paleo Hebrew inscription.

38:49 He's all over the place. There's a lot of footprints actually chiseled on the Rocks which is interesting because one of the promises God tells them, he says every place where your feet trod will be the land I give you. And so there's all these huh Footprints, chiseled into the Rock along with the Hebrew inscription, paleo Hebrew inscription like basically claiming Ryan as theirs. Okay, there's also there's a bunch of. There's twelve pillars at the base and I've been set up, there's even one there's altars and things have been found.

39:30 There's even one altar that's kind of lifted up, its kind of natural altar. But there's a bunch of like inscriptions in your petroglyphs of cows, being worshipped and stuff it with someone going, don't do this as this one horrible for. Well, yeah, well I think that, I think they may have been I think they would those might have been part of the ceremony. Yeah that was when they were getting ready to worship the golden calf. I mean anyway. Yeah. So this this job L laws I highly recommend people looking up. It's very interesting. There's a there's an LDS guy. I think his name is Roy hotter. Okay. He actually went and found some interesting like Book of Mormon archaeological sites that are to one of them.

40:17 Is there's a Wadi that's nearby there. Right, it's interesting getting off into Book of Mormon things there's but I forget. Well I'm I'm scatterbrained right now, so I apologize. But there are a lot of official sources that say there are no rivers in Saudi Arabia. No, no, Perpetual Rivers. No perennial Rivers. But, you know, the eye and his family, they leave Jerusalem. And they start heading down by the Red Sea, and they're not, they haven't been going too far and they come to this, there's a valley right with the, the river and Valium Lemuel, right? And there's a river flowing through it, that's flowing continuously, right? I says, and anyway, there's a lot of, but a lot of I said, official sources, say that there are no rivers in Saudi Arabia, but they're actually, It is and it's up there near the Red Sea and as far as I know, Roy Potter was the one that found it but it's actually pretty close to where job Ela laws is like Lehi and his family would have been they were journeying near the borders of the Red Sea.

41:25 They would have come to the place where the Israelites crossed and then Mount Sinai is right near there and and I believe some at least some of Of the spiritual experiences that. And if I had you being caught up into a high mountain, he says when he's has this vision and stuff, like, I think that was probably at the mountain of the Lord at that. Sign up, or at least, or at least that was involved in some way their proximity to that. That Holy place was a factor. So, yeah, you know, I find it interesting and I've said this before but again, that's just Bears it out.

42:09 Mormons and in Jewish folks have a lot in common, right? We more than we both realize, I think. Yeah. I mean, you look at, you know, things that are done let's say during Passover meals and, you know, even the Seder, there's a lot of things, harkening back and you look at what we do with our youth, right? We take them on track or we. We acquaintance with our history right down to this, right? I mean, if you What heart? Landers and and those folks espousing a Mesoamerican model for the Book of Mormon they have this argument about where it took place and it sounds like within Judaism.

42:50 There's this argument about where was Moses. Where was cyanide? I just find it interesting that, that we share so many similar characteristics. Yeah. When it when it comes to that, it's fascinating and interesting as you just look at it. Yeah, I think we have Humans in general. Yeah it a lot more in common with each other than we would care to examine something. Yeah yeah I agree. So anyway so back to back to the story of Shavuot, I guess to some more interesting things. So They received the Covenant and Moses, you know, sprinkles Blood on the on the people, you know, to seal the deal and then he actually goes up into the mountain with I'll read it here. This is an exodus chapter 24 and then went up Moses and Aaron nadab and a by who and 70 of the Elders of Israel and they saw the god of Israel and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of sapphire stone and as it were the body of Heaven in its clearance.

44:08 So Moses and the and Aaron nadab and by who and the 70 they go up they see God they see God's Throne Room basically and it goes on. It says They saw God says in verse 11, they saw God and did eat and drink. So they basically had a feat, the Feast of Shavuot, you know, up there with God, it's pretty amazing. And, and then, and then Moses comes down with the stones. And and it says that the stones were provided, the stones were provided and carved by the Finger of God.

44:53 And the only stone that is mentioned in the chapter is the sapphire stone that was in God's throne room and so there's some there's some strong circumstantial evidence there and there is Traditions Jewish Traditions that say that the first set of tablets were written on Sapphire gem or some some of the, some of the translations, say, maybe lapiz lazuli. But anyway, there's A blue stone. I like the sapphire imagery. It says clear right here, like heaven. Okay. And so they were blue and And a lot of times when you, when you hear about the color blue in the scriptures, then you should be thinking about this.

45:43 These first set of tablets that had the Commandments on a blue, is actually a symbol of of Heaven for one and also of The Commandments which is where Heaven comes from the. And it's from the Throne of God, finding interesting. It blue still approve pretty prominent color on the Israeli flag to yes. Yeah and the The king of Gotham, right? Yeah, thanks. Yep. I don't think that's. I think, that's not mean. That's on purpose. Yeah, that's harking. Back to this. Let me ask you this. You talked about in the script, you read there in the scriptures, that it wasn't just Moses. It went up to the mountain to see the Lord face to face. That's right. 70 elders went with them too. Yeah.

46:27 Is that may be where the office of 70 comes from. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is the, I don't think there's anything not like Solomon says, is it nothing new Under the Sun, right? Yeah, I think, I mean, the 12, all of the, all of the tribes had a prince, right? We all right. A chief, a chief. And those are. Those are those are the 12 apostles, right? Those are the 12. Sons was the 12 heads of the of the 12 tribes and the end. And then we have the 70 right here. We have we have a first presidency, right? We have we actually have right? We have Moses.

47:09 And we have Aaron nadab and by whose we have these three and then the 70 and These numbers. Come up quite frequently and it is true that in the Old Testament. There's it's not as clear as you know, it's not laid out as clear as that is inducting coming, right? Okay. And in the New Testament it's not really quite as clear either. But it's the patterns are definitely there and repeating, right? I just found that interesting. It's just something popped popped in as you were reading it. I was like yeah it's just like maybe that's where the office comes from.

47:50 The actual priesthood Office of the yeah and I think and 70 I think so the seven-year supposed to be traveling right missionaries. Yep correct and in Hebrew numerology. T is a is a symbolic representation of the nations of Europe, okay? And this actually ties in with shovel up to I'm going to mention it right here, right now. When Israel left Egypt, it was not only pure-blooded Israelites but says specifically that there was a mixed multitude of people that left with the Israelites. And Jewish tradition says that they were, there was people representing all the seventy Nations, the 70 other nations besides Israel, that all attached themselves to Israel. Of course, they were all in Egypt. Why were the why we're all the nations and represented in Egypt?

48:53 Well, a couple reasons. One Egypt was like was the world superpower at the right to a couple Generations earlier got massive famine, it was famine and everyone had gone to Egypt for food and then people just probably settled there, just like the Israelites to and I started little and you know, whatever Babylonian colonies in Macedonian colonies, And places from all over the known world at least. So do we have any record of what happened to those ones who weren't Jewish by birth? Right the those mixed multitudes did they just show up and then where they just brought in?

49:39 Yeah, I mean you know what interesting this is this is something that's Actually this is kind of misunderstood I will say is a lot of people think that the idea of like being adopted into Israel. Like that's a new testament thing. But it's from the very beginning from the Passover. Yeah. And and The Exodus God basically says, If you are a foreigner and you want to come and keep my law and do the things that Israelites do, then you will be part of, you'll be considered a part of us. Like you'll have your inheritance will be with us from the beginning.

50:21 Like that's adoption and grafting in that idea is not a new testing, magnet, a Old Testament, you know, and that actually has some pretty significant tie ends with the restored gospel. We know that there was As law of adoption in the early days of the LDS church, right? This idea because you had people who were think about this, right? You're in Sweden. You're in England and you are, you've received a testimony of the fullness of the gospel. Maybe it's just you right? Or maybe it's you and your small family there and you're coming over Harrison's. Yeah. No to inherit with and you're coming over and you got no one to look after you and I don't know this.

51:03 This idea of adoption will die. I'm fascinated with it. As of late, I find it to be very fascinating and having this brought up in this discussion. I think probably shows some some connections back to that. Absolutely. Oh yeah, there's definitely. That goes at least. Yeah. And yeah, which is again what we would expect that. So so those first tablets They were, they were Blue Stone from the throne like they were from Heaven and the whole, the whole point of the whole point of the law was always too. To have to have it impressed Upon Our Hearts, right? We want to have.

51:54 And I mean there's there's several verses that we have some in both the New Testament and the Old Testament. Second Corinthians and Hebrews. Jeremiah and Ezekiel, I talk about the fleshy tablets of our heart and that's always what God's been going after and not that, not that one. we have, you know, the God's law in our heart, that the stones can go away, you know, that the that physical law can go away but that that are that our flesh actually conforms to Two stones, right? The stones are like a scam and our flesh conforms to it. That's the that's the idea.

52:39 You know, I get this ties into a little quote, we're talking about earlier but sometimes Christians kind of bristle at the idea of the law that they don't write, they just want to love God, you know, and be saved and whatever and God's. You God likes that, I'm sure in some sense but God wants more than that. God wants a people, God wants a nation and you can't, you can't run a nation. With everyone, just doing it. Say that you love Jesus right without without a code of laws, you have to have laws in order to be free. That's the slower we were talking about. Yeah.

53:23 Yeah. Because it can't just be everyone do whatever they want and love God like that. That's that's hell well in this Harkens back you know this this that's golden calf stuff. Yeah actually when sorry me say one more thing though. Yeah. When they worship the golden calf. And all that and all the debauchery that went along with that. You know what, you know what, Aaron said to them. He said here is here, is your god that took you out of Egypt. Let's have a feast to Yaya like, let's have a feast to the Lord and so that's what they were worshiping Jehovah, you know. But they were, they were doing it according to their own desires and that's what you get when people just Love Jesus. Without any guidelines is you get a bomb a nation yet corruption and I don't think there's any real Freedom there and and I'll again take this back to to America story a little bit when, when we're first to Country, after we managed to be written, we're operating under the Articles of Confederation, right?

54:38 The founders understood that they had to move the needle, so to speak on freedom, just enough so that you could have order and the maximum amount of freedom. That's why we're not really a democracy where Republic to slow down this idea of everyone just doing their own thing. No matter what because if you just do your own thing without any sort of guide lines, any sort of structure, what you get is mobocracy, right? And how free are you? When somebody comes to steal your crap, you're not free at all. And so this idea of freedom through Some sort of discipline.

55:21 I think, deserves some attention and some weight more so than what we like to admit. Yeah, amen. So we go back to the blue, the blue stones and the color blues. It's interesting. Of course we know that those those blue stones were lost, right, Moses came down, and broke them all. We found the people defiling themselves with the calf, but a couple of other interesting things. The first part, the first part of the Book of Mormon, which we lost also. Right was actually. It was written on blue paper really and then it was gone. Yeah, so I mean I don't know I just find that to be an interesting coincidence.

56:08 Absolutely, I didn't realize that. Yeah. So I did want to mention. One other thing is the one of the things that they're supposed to do for the law, is there supposed to tie a blue thread on there on the four corners? And then it comes and and the blue thread was there supposed to be able to look at that blue thread and says, tend to remember the Commandments and why is the blue thread remaining of The Commandments? Because those first Stones anyway were we're blue, at least, that's part of it. So it's kind of like the original CTR name if you would. Okay?

56:51 Okay. Look at it and that reminds you do. What's do what's right? Is right. So and this is This is what Jesus had, Jesus was wearing these these Tableau tassels, the clumsy but zero. And this is what that, that woman, who had that issue of blood. Right. When she touched the Hem of His Garment is actually, the castle is the tassel. She touched the tassel. And she knew she knew actually that that she knew that if Jesus was the Messiah and I'm sure she had a spiritual witness of that before she attempted something.

57:35 So Brazen, she knew that it was prophesied. That he would have healing in his castles if it is easy. Now in the English, the prophecy in Malachi says, he will have healing in his wings. Yeah. But that's those, are the fringes or the tassels of scarlet. And so, she knew that that was prophesied, and she exercised faith in that. That was the first public heal that happened, right? And then that's she's famous for that, but if you read in the following chapters, it says that people from all around. Came to touch his Z and we're and everyone who did was healed and, you know, and this just there's so much symbolism in that 21 is one is Jesus and his power, but another is, but it wasn't, it wasn't just Jesus. It was these who was the blue tassels, which are a reminder of the law, and the law is the law.

58:40 Is is healing? Yeah for sick. People and sick Nations. Yeah right. It's fascinating because we can see what happens when we don't follow the law, right? I mean, if we look at the disaster that's Chicago right now with just the beatings and the lawlessness and certain companies pulling out of San Francisco, all together. We need some, we need to harken back to the law, right? Both both our national law, which largely is founded upon the Ten Commandments, absolutely. In judaeo-christian Tradition, as well as, you know, getting ourselves back into scripture and knowing that long we're because we are sick Society at the moment and you're right that we do need some healing through and you touch the yeah, we need to touch those tassels.

59:34 Yeah. In preparation for this. I actually came across a, a talk from Neil Maxwell in October, 1974 General Conference. I thought it was just so fitting. He actually was the talk. He was he was speaking to people who are kind of like in the church but are just sitting on the sidelines and not really getting in there. Participating from of what we've been talking about, And it's the talk is kind of humorous because he's just telling people how to he's giving them advice for how to stay on the sidelines, right? If you want to stay on the sidelines then like don't do these things but I'm going to tell him also. He gives this list of things not to do so that you can stay comfortably on the sidelines doing nothing and just let kingdom of God pass you by so to speak. So one of the things he says he says if you want to stay There he says, do not let yourself reflect too much on the social political and economic indicators, that suggest the Gathering storm is the 1974.

1:00:47 Lest you realize that there is an Inseparable connection between keeping the Commandments and the well-being of society. Don't think about that too much. You might take you into the roads that you're uncomfortable. Traveling. Yeah. So area. Huh? That was brilliant. So Let's see. So I want to talk about the change in what happened with the tablets, okay? So Moses comes down and he's carrying these tablets.

1:01:30 Actually, it's interesting, the Jewish tradition. I mean, there's a stone and not Stone Jewish tradition says that these tablets would carry their own weight, So so they would just Moses could take them down the mountain without any effort on his part screwed. So there's interesting things to think about there but of course he breaks them and then then you know, Jehovah says, he's going to destroy the people and Moses intercedes and says convinces, you know, reasons with God. Bargains with God says take me instead and they God says no, that's okay. This is what this is what we're going to do. Says they're not, they're not ready for what I had offered them.

1:02:19 The one they didn't want to come up when I invited them and to the immediately. Went back to their Egyptian guys as soon as there's no supervision, right? Just was the people who weren't ready for Freedom more than any sort. That's right. So but they need it, they need in law still. So there's kind of two theories about what was what was on the first and second set of tablets and everyone everyone agrees that At the children of Israel were cursed, right? They had to go. They could not enter the promised land immediately, which was what God's goal for them has at least one of his goals. For them was not the only gold up that was the next step and they weren't ready for.

1:03:12 So they had to go through the Wilderness for 40 years. Until, you know, the that older generation died off right? But even then, I mean, we say we like, to say, cursed and indeed the scriptures, Are clear that they were cursed, but it's it wasn't a bad cursing. I mean, They had all their food provided for them. Like God is with them directly. The pillar of fire was there guiding them. They were protected from their enemies, they had water and scripture says that even there, like God made it so that if shoes, and their clothes didn't even without 40 years. So yeah, so all in all not too bad of a curse but but we definitely know that they were cursed.

1:03:58 So these are the 2. These are the two theories. One is the as far as what was on the tablets. The first Theory or the first hypothesis is a hypothesis. First, hypothesis is the replacement hypothesis. And the second one is the league action hypothesis. Okay, so The first hypothesis, the the replacement hypothesis says, basically that they were that the law that they received was the curse. They were cursed with the lower law and so like, so basically that Moses came down the first time and he was the high law there, the higher law, the Melchizedek things, and then the people disqualified themselves.

1:04:44 And so that was removed and was replaced. With the lower law, the physical laws of carnal law, the ironic or levitical law and that and that that so that that was in essence, the curse was receiving that lower law. Now. Okay, so that's one the second theory it be redaction Theory or hypothesis. Done is use the word hypothesis. Is that actually both things were given the lower law and the higher law will given together on that first set of tablets. And then when the people proved themselves unworthy then the higher law, the Melchizedek portion of things was removed. And that but that the lower law remain. So so that the curse was not the receiving of the lower law rather in this hypothesis, the curse Was the removal of the higher law.

1:05:52 So and there's a, there's a subtle but I think important distinction to be made there. So Now, I know I'm well, aware of what you know, are Catholic and Protestant. Forefathers have taught about this and much of their teaching and ideas have been absorbed by the children of the restoration, but we want to know, you know, what our scriptures say. And so we can kind of test between these two competing hypotheses by looking at the scriptures. So I'm going to read in two places.

1:06:33 The first one is going to be, will go to, we're going to Deuteronomy first. Here, Deuteronomy chapter 10. 10 verse 2 or so. Okay. Actually going to start at verse 1. Here's the unfortunate truth right now as fundamentalists and traditional LDS folks, we can't expect to have accurate history told by others because true history and scholarship is problematic for certain people. And organizations, we're going to have to do this work ourselves and to do that, we will have to support each other in this kind of work.

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1:10:01 Stone verse 1, verse 2, I will write on the tables. The words that were in the first tables which style brake assist. Save for the words of Everlasting, Covenant of the Holy priesthood and thou shalt put them in me on. So does that sound like a replacement or a redaction a redaction cab saying he's saying, you know, you you they could have had all this and I'll say here, that sounds a lot like Almost are degrees of Glory, right? That that's pretty unique, to Mormonism. In terms of don't have it right? Because hell isn't necessarily a fit, you know, a place. The hell is this idea of so much? We could have more could have had more. That's exactly.

1:10:49 And and so I would say it's still a blessing to go. You know, if you read the things Joseph taught we he said if sto kingdom is a kingdom of Glory. Yeah. If we See, the telestial kingdom, you know? I've heard people say, you'd want to off yourself just to get there now, right? And so, It-it's redaction seems to be more in line with how God deals with his children, more than a replacement. The other thing I would tend to say is that how could they be ready for Melchizedek things if they hadn't received the ironic things first?

1:11:29 Yeah, yeah. It's that I think that's absolutely true. Especially since some the higher law, the Melchizedek things as far as I'm turned. Those are, those are all spiritual extensions of the physical things. And so, how can you have this this spiritual extension of a non-existent physical thing, right? It's like it's like having a house with no Foundation, right? Like, right over. Yeah, I mean, we had a vision about that, it's no good. So, you know, so just some examples of that kind of concept. So the idea of being immersed in water, You're in into the Mikvah, you've heard that term from people in the Mikvah that is that is essentially the physical part of baptism, right? But then, but then baptisms is kind of the higher application, right?

1:12:37 It's a spiritual, it's a spiritual understanding of this physical thing for the most part. Not always, I'll save it for the most part of your thinking. the majority of the times when that's mentioned in the Old Testament, it's talking about It's talking about claim like physical cleanliness or some aspect of that K. So another one is marriage, right? Marriages in marriages in the Old Testament even plural. Marriage is impossible. Yep. But but not, but stealing is not for its, you know, there's, there's hints at it, in some places, but, but ceiling is, is the milk is at extension of marriage, but marriage is, is a principle of Of the Torah and you can't really have.

1:13:28 It doesn't really make sense to have ceilings without me, right? You gotta have a reactive a relationship to seal. You know, the Taurus full of taking care of the widows and the orphans and the poor and and all of that and then the higher application that is is consecration. But there's this, there's this C2, this kernel that's in the lower law that just has this higher application. Okay, circumcision? Okay, there's a physical circumcision, but then there's this circumcision of the heart, right? That God, what God wants but But if you don't understand the physical symbol and what that's about, then the higher application doesn't make as much sense, right? And there's many other things that we could, we could mention there.

1:14:17 So yeah. So I think it doesn't make sense to have To have the higher without the lower, right? No. Because I think it's even referred to as the Preparatory gospel, right? Yeah, right. Yeah. And so, how can it would be like walking into a physics exam when you have even studied out? Yeah, I've actually heard people make funny analogies before like the lower laws, you know, like it's like high school but But, you know, the higher laws like is like college or something and it's like the, the Israelites they did, all the lower law and now Jesus prepares us for the higher laws. Now, we're living higher lines like Yeah, but just because your ancestor did High School doesn't qualify you for college, right? You know, you your ancestor could have done just High School and that's fine.

1:15:20 But if you want to do college you're going to do high school too, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. We don't need out of you both. Yeah, I don't get to go in and clean my, my relatives bachelor's and around and move on from that and move on to graduate school. Right? So okay, I'm going to read another. Another verse this is in Exodus, 34 starting in verse 1, this is in the GST again. So And the Lord said unto Moses Hugh thee to other tables of stone like unto the first and I will write upon them. Also, the words of the law according, as they were written at the first on the tables, which thou break is, but it shall not be according to the first four.

1:16:08 I will take away the priesthood out of their midst and therefore my holy order and the ordinances thereof shall not go before. Or them for my presence. Shall not go up in them. Yes, you must. I destroy them. But I will give unto them the law as at the first but it should be after a law of carnal commandment for. I have sworn in my wrath, they shall not enter into my presence into my rest in the days of their pilgrimage. So again that sound like replacement or redaction we got redaction. Yeah absolutely. So the law, the law is not curse. The withholding of the Melchizedek things.

1:16:50 That was the first. The law is not a curse, the law is a necessary thing and and the law is something that we should take Serious. Even, even if we are inheritors, of milk is appreciative and all the things that go along with that. We We need to realize that that on the tables of stone that those things were in the original intention. Those things were given together, right? We're both part of the blessing that God have for Israel. So anyway, okay. So they're so, so one one thing is remembering Remembering what happened at Sinai. Another interesting you know I mentioned it's like this day of cabinetmaking.

1:17:41 So another interesting thing again and I think it's partly because because Shavuot is the date of Shavuot is kind of hidden, right? In Leviticus 23. When he gives the dates of the month of the month, for all the feasts for Shabu. Oh, it doesn't get it. So, when they come to Mount Sinai and exodus, R19, it's like zombie. It's a to be there there at the beginning of the third month, but it doesn't say I acting, and you read about Noah, and the Ark of the heart rests, and the waters dry up, and it gives you some dates there of this day on this month, the ark rested on the waters receded and then the land was dry. And by the time, see if I have it. By the time.

1:18:36 Oh yeah. Here we go. By the time, they go out. So by the time that the Earth is dried, it's the 27th day of the second month, right? We're almost there to the beginning of the third month and then your Genesis chapter, 8 says they go out of the Ark you know. And then of course they're going to need to get things set up, right? They're going to build shelter, they need to build pens for the animals and stuff. Noah Builds an altar and then and then makes a man, God makes a covenant. And by the time this happens it's suspiciously close to Shavuot. So, when God now in the in the book of jubilees, which is not in our Cannon, it is in the ethiopic camera. If you heard of that we have ghetto but we would consider an apocryphal work I suppose.

1:19:26 But in the book of jubilees it actually explicitly says that it was on Shavuot. God made the Covenant with. With Noah and in restoration scriptures we know that the Covenant with Noah was these are not actually the first time that God gave that Covenant with the rainbow the first time was with being a right. I have every reason to believe that the Covenant that God made with Enoch was also made on punch oo2, is because it's God's covenant day. So there's a lot of a lot of things there. Another another interesting one in the, in the New Testament, before we get to the obvious one is the day of Pentecost, right?

1:20:09 Was explicitly, shovel do, but before that Jesus, Jesus gets Jesus gives The Sermon on the Mount and I believe that was a shovel. Setting we're actually uncertain about the mountain, but that was on this trip, she doesn't say it. And we're also uncertain about the timing, but if you look at the timing, your Jesus is baptized, and this is, I believe, from what we things, I'm John, I believe it's right around Passover that he's baptized, which kind of fits into with what Israel did Israel when they came out of Egypt. They were baptized in the Red Sea, right? Right on the Seventh day of unleavened bread. That was That was round pass over time. So Jesus baptized around Passover and then he goes out into the travels out into the Wilderness, which I believe is actually here Sinai.

1:21:08 Present, characters talk about the Wilderness. They talking about the area where the children of Israel want their heart beating back. They're not talking about any old place, the Wilderness is the area around Simon, okay? Which is also where Liang is family go. Owing to the Wilderness, right? So anyway, he goes there for 40 days. Okay, so and then he comes back and then he comes, then he's tempted, you know, for a day or whatever and then he and then he walks back and he chooses disciples and stuff. And by the time, all these things happen, we're like about 50 days, mmm?

1:21:49 And so, and then he goes up on a mountain. Wow, gives this sermon to multitudes of people. Why are there multitudes of people there? I mean, Jesus is not famous yet. He becomes famous pretty against some pretty quickly there, but there's multitudes of people there, like, for his first sermon where I and why they're multitudes there because it's shallow and this is a time, one of the three times in the year, when there's supposed to be a pilgrimage, right everybody? Everyone gathers back to Jerusalem to the temple. To bring their offerings to hear the word preached and all those things. So Jesus gives this sermon and he basically gives a sermon on the Commandments, right? Yeah, started on that is is start on the commandant's and there's nothing, there's actually nothing in that sermon that is It is really new, a lot of times people think that Jesus was talking about new stuff, but in reality he was just reminding everyone about the purpose for the reason. The law was given enough.

1:22:54 He says he says in The Sermon on the Mount. He says, you know, you're supposed to love your enemies. People are like, oh, that's like a new testament thing. That's that's an old that's an Old Testament thing. You know, I'm going to read an example of Love your love your enemies, Exodus 23. So this is like this is at Sinai. Okay, Exodus 23 verse 4 to 5 if thou meet thine enemies ox or his ass going astray, Thou shalt surely bring it back to him again. If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden and what is for bear to help him.

1:23:37 Thou shalt surely help. I can even your enemies you're supposed to do, good to them. Like that's in that's in that harsh cold harsh old Moses, right? Jesus says not on The Sermon, on the Mount. But later on he says someone asked him one of the greatest Commandments and of course, we all know that those who love the Lord thy God. All right, love your neighbor as yourself, right? And a lot of times people point to that tune, like see there's the higher law that Jesus is talking about, but Jesus, just quoting from the 12. Well, he's quoting from Deuteronomy 6 and Malia 19. Yeah, and and let's let's for a minute here. Just kind of parse this out a little bit because I think this is worth talking about when Jesus comes.

1:24:23 And he says, don't don't think I'm here to destroy the law. I'm here to fulfill the law. Yeah. I think sometimes people, or at least I know I did struggled with this idea of fulfilling the law. Yeah. What does that mean? Does that mean he just comes to a tone and that's all not that that wouldn't have been enough. I mean that act in and of itself is is revolutionary but For me, as I've read through the gospels and read read to all of our Canon of scripture. I think we saying I'm here to fulfill the law. I think what he's saying is. Okay, you got the practice.

1:25:03 Now I'm going to tell you what this is really all about. We all, I'm going to tell you why it is. You're doing what you're doing this. This goes to kind of what what what Adam went through when. The angel shows up and says bro why you offer sacrifices? I don't know, I don't know. I was told to I was told to write and then the angel says, okay, let me fill you in. Yeah. And and sometimes I think that's actually a beautiful analogy to what Jesus is doing. Yeah. I so I think with this idea of fulfilling the law, I think in this is just the the miracle of Jesus, right? He's not only talking about his atonement and the resurrection he saying, Let me show you, let me tell you why you're doing what you're doing.

1:25:49 Well, why and he elaborates on this? And he says, this is why you're doing it, and this is why you should keep doing this. Yeah. Yeah, amen. A lot of times people will point to that fulfill. I mean, I mean, just just the word itself, full fill means to To put me like I'm pouring water in a glass, you bring it to its fullness. Absolutely, a lot of people, but when they when Christians yeah read that and a lot of Mormons to I think, because we've absorb right? And yeah, fuck ideas. When we see fulfill, we immediately think that means that Jesus got rid of that stuff, right?

1:26:31 When when that's not what the word, fulfill no means necessarily or hardly ever. It means that it means to like to make something full, you know, another time just a chapter, a chapter or two before The Sermon on the Mount. Jesus uses the word fulfill, I'm not in another context is goes to John John's baptizing. The Jordan to fulfill all righteousness. Yeah and he says let's do this. John says why to fulfil all righteousness? Then we don't read that and think Jesus is doing Jesus was baptized so I don't need to be As because he did away with baptism, now that's not what. He's he's he's showing us that not even the son of God is too good, right?

1:27:19 To keep the Commandments that he's going to. He's going to do it all and show us not only one that it can be done and 2 + 2 y how to do it in 3? Y to do it. I think that's. Yeah. That is what Jesus means. By making the lawful Yeah, I think so. And I think this also ties back to this idea of the Covenant is still in force, right? We look even as Mormon sometimes. I think we look at this idea of restoration and think, oh, we're just restoring the New Testament stuff. Yeah, that's not.

1:28:00 That's not it at all, but Joseph was about it. I know Joseph was like, when you start talking about, as Joseph did about this, dispensation of the fullness of times, the restoration of all things, all things. Everything. He said everything that has been had under the authority of the priesthood in every dispensation, right? Will be had again, everything that has ever been done and that's that's kind of uncomfortable thing to think of partly it's uncomfortable to think of because I think we are satisfied in some sense with the progress of the restoration has been so This stuff has been restored and we're good with that.

1:28:48 And they've been that way now for a couple hundred years, right? There's New Revelations and people get personal Revelations and there's even been, you know, depending on what church, you go to your, your profit has received Revelations or things that you believe in Revelations. But as far as, as far as the big picture that Joseph was talking about that stuff, not done. We are not doing animal sacrifices doing. Least we're not we're not building Zion, you know, the city of Zion, right? We're not building the Temple complex with 24 temples. 12, aaronic temples 12 milk. Is it temples?

1:29:32 There's a lot left undone and it's easy. Sometimes to just think in our in, our day-to-day lives at This is this is it the Restorations kind of kind of done in the but yeah and we believe it we've achieved a New Testament Church or something right? And and that line of thinking that that we have achieved, right? We've done it. We're good. We can sit back. The The Lazy part of me, the, the sitting on the couch eating Doritos, keeping track of my fantasy football team. I love that interpretation. However, in good faith after reading what I've read, especially the words of Joseph Smith himself, you can't be fulfilled with that, right? You can't be happy with, that's not enough. And no, I don't think there is another sect of Christendom. That seeks salvation on a couple different levels or exaltation on a couple different levels more than Mormonism does. Amen to that because in the Old Testament, you the covenants that were in place were very Nationalistic. Now, I don't say nationalistic in terms of like the political Theory, I'm talking nationalistic in terms of where a group of people, they are going to be governed by these principles, right?

1:31:04 The New Testament. Jesus definitely goes after the heart of the individual. Yes, he goes. He he shies away. I shouldn't say he shies away, but he, he makes a point of emphasis of he emphasizes. I tell you say that's the one tell me about your heart. You know what's? Let's work on the individual now both of those are important. Yeah. How do we know that both of those are still important because Joseph Smith while he did work on the, on the individual right? Yeah, it has to always start with the individual, it goes from individuals to families and then it goes to communities and nations in the Old Testament, you have those Nation things. So Joseph Smith is is very pronounced on. You're going to make personal covenants but understand This is in preparation, so that we can have this Society beings. I and so it really, she had a kind of likes just wants. You want to Congregation of Saved people? Yes, Joseph wants to build this city. He wants to build the lamination a society Society. He wants to build a people that's distinctly different than anything else it's around at the time that Harkens back to ultimately Very Old Testament Roots, right? Oh yeah, this idea of Zion this inside, This idea of of Jerusalem, a New Jerusalem.

1:32:29 It's a harkening back unto the tables. It yes. All the things are going very much is the the restoration of all things? I love that. Yeah, I totally agree. There's a couple other interesting occurrences of Shavuot. Let's see one of them. Yeah, one of them of course we'll talk about. Let's talk about the day of Pentecost. Okay, so again timing is critical. Now we are told explicitly that it's that it is Pentecost or sha below, but if we didn't know that, you would be able to tell actually from really happens for one, we just look at the timing of the events. So Jesus is crucified on Passover, right? Okay.

1:33:27 He's the best. He's a pastor but now He's in the Tomb for three days. Okay? Or, you know, parts of three days depending on what you believe the chronology is resurrected. He shows himself to a couple of people, he walks on the road to Emmaus. He appears to his disciples, you know. These are, you know, there's a couple of days there, whatever. And then and then he hangs out with his Apostles for 40 days and right. Okay. So 40 days plus these three days in the Tomb and couple of days on, you know, appearing to people like that. Put Us at and then the apostles. So he hangs out with them. And then the apostles they choose a replacement for Judas. And by the time, all this happens like we're looking at 50 days, right, right?

1:34:13 And then so and then so they go to the temple. Why does Peter go to the temple? Why are all those people there? Who speak different languages? Why are they all there? Because you're so kind of load. Yeah. And they're all there because it's a pilgrimage. Okay, and so and there's there's these Euler elements I'll say. So this is how this is, how you would be able to tell one is the timing to is by what happens. So at the at Sinai, there's there's a mountain, there's fire, there's the law, is given. There's a lawgiver. There's the sound of wind and Russian of win. And there's also the velocity interpretation of tongue. So, Now, so all that's present.

1:35:01 You know, in Acts chapter 2 and interestingly well it's interesting that there is this is interpretation of tongues all times people. Say that Peter was speaking in tongues Peter was not speaking in tongues Peter speaking in. Hebrew or Aramaic or whatever, maybe Greek, whatever, whatever language Peter normally speaks in, but all these people who had different languages and dialects they were all hearing it in their own tongue, right? Okay now this actually Harkens back to what happened at Sinai. So again you remember that mixed multitude? Yeah.

1:35:42 And Did you say there was represent representatives of all of the 70 Nations there? And this is not in the, this is not in the Torah. But in knowing the Jewish tradition, says that all of those, all the mixed multitude that were at cyanide, they all heard the word of the Lord in their own language when who gave the law there. So, this is, so what happened to the day of Pentecost is just a mirror image of what happened at cyanide? The other interesting thing and this is kind of a mirror image. To is that it says in Acts that there were 3,000 people. That were saved so to speak and this is in contrast to what happened at Mount Sinai, when Moses came down and broke the tablets, the people were defiling themselves and there was a little Civil War that happened.

1:36:36 And there was three thousand people killed slain. And then on the day of Pentecost, that says there's 3,000 Dean. Okay, so so that's so that's a beautiful thing. Now, while that's happening, Well that's happening. In the new world. Are a sorry in the old world. Something's happening in the new world to because we know that the descendants of Lehigh like they kept Torah to MMM. And so in 3rd Nephi chapter 8, the destruction begins, There's darkness and all of that, they hear a voice, right? And this, this is happening when Jesus, Jesus bodies into the, during those three days of darkness. But then, the darkness goes away. And, and, and eventually Jesus comes and visits the, the folks in the new world.

1:37:35 Now, we know he doesn't come right away because he's hanging out with his Apostles for right, 40. Days plus, plus a little bit of other time when he was, he was there. So when he is, when he is available, I'll say when his calendar is cleared, so to speak to come and visit the, the Nephites. It's right around shovel again, the timing. So in 3rd, Nephi chapter 10, Let's see.

1:38:19 Verse 18 actually so-so. In in chapter 11, right? This is where Christ descends, right? Mmm. And and then speaks to them. But again, all the all the people there's it says there's a multitude and they're all gathered to the temple. And I mean I think that that's not an insignificant detail. I think they're gathered there because it's one of at least it's one of those three times. And I believe it's a Shavuot and so there is controversy. I'm going to read one verse here, 35:10, 18 and it came to pass.

1:39:03 That in the ending of the 30. And fourth year, behold, I will show in to you that the people of Nephi who were spared. And also those who had been called lamanites who have been spared, did have great favors shown unto them and great blessings poured out upon their heads. So, You know, the, the darkness and stuff happened on the in the first month of the 30 34th year. Mmm, he says, by the at the end of the 34th year says there's all these blessings and it says in so much which is an old word that means since in so much or since or because that soon after the Ascension of Christ into heaven, He truly manifest himself unto them.

1:39:55 So it was soon after his Ascension that he manifested himself to them which to me says shovel. Oh right. Because that was right Shavuot wasn't right or Pentecostals right after the Ascension and Jesus appears and then by the end of the 34th year they are they've built this righteous society and things are going well for them. So so again there's these there's these Elements there also. So we can tell kind of from the timing. And this little hint here in 3rd Nephi but also in the elements again, there's a mountain. Well, back at Pentecost, there was a mountain to, right? Which was the temple around.

1:40:39 Example, is the mountain of the Lord. That's a great in Bountiful there at the mountain and Jesus comes down and gives the law. He actually gives a sermon very similar to Sermon on the Mount. Right. Sermon Bountiful. Yeah, I'm very simple. Yeah. Serena, which I believe was Shavuot sermon as well. Okay. And so so there's all these, all these hints there. Another interesting. Well, I don't go ahead. If you have, let me ask a question here real quick because there's there's something in 17 that I've always kind of found interesting for me by 17. Yeah.

1:41:21 Okay. And this is why they're still at the temple. But real quick is there any sort of family? Like with Passover, there's a family meal, right? That happens. Does anything like that happen? During show Vu there. It's not it's not to the same extent, okay? As Passover, we do have a we do have a family thing that we do.

1:42:01 Why do you ask? Well let me let me take a look at 17 here and this is something that I had read for years and years and never picked out. and, This is after he's given The Sermon on the Mount, this is right before he heals everybody and he's getting ready to leave for a spell. And I'll just start in verse one here 35:17 says, behold. Now it came to pass that when Jesus had spoken. These words, he looked around about again on the multitude and he said unto them behold. My time is at hand, I perceived that year, we you cannot understand all my words, which I am commanded over father to speak unto you at this time.

1:42:42 Time, therefore go ye unto your homes and Ponder upon the things which I have said and ask the father, in my name, that you may understand, and prepare your minds for the morrow and I come again. Now, let's let's paint the picture. There were probably people there or I'm not even Pentecost that acosta's house that that's okay. Um they were they were there for that but also you get the sense from the preceding that people who had survived those cataclysms came to the Bountiful Temple. To see the Savior, yeah. There's massive destruction.

1:43:28 There are whole cities, sunk whole mountains. Fallen? Yeah, fire earth, air water and fire. They'll are destroyed and maybe this has no tie here, but To, to what we're talking about. But something I always found interesting. And so, when you brought this up, I was just wondering. Where's you tell the people go. Let's go home. There's a reason. Yeah. Where's home? Most of their homes are toast, maybe? Right? Most of those are probably gone. Yeah, I think what he's saying is, go back to your family. Now, this is, I will say, okay, I like that. Keep keep going.

1:44:11 I think what he's saying here is. He's like look, even though you've seen me here, that's great. You need to go home to your families. And talk about this as families. Yeah. Suddenly or maybe not so subtly only, so, to us, he's really emphasizing the importance of your family. Yeah, I like that understand. This is, this is important. He could have said, just hang out here. I'm right here, we're good. We'll just keep hanging out, but and says he says go home from digest. This the La Voz people's homes and prepare yourself for more. Yeah, I'm prepare yourself for more. I think, I don't know, you know, that is part of Shavuot. When actually, I'll tell you the reason why the reason why the conference restoration Torah conference is Friday and Saturday is because in Exodus 19. Yeah, 19.

1:45:20 When God is getting ready to give them. Sapphire no books. He actually tells them, says take take a couple of days, two days instead of prepare yourselves through. See mmm, what I have for you now. As far as Jewish Traditions go, the feast days are always family and Community Days so it's not quite the same as Passover, where there's a meal. But what they'll actually do is because because the feasts are like reenactments, what happened? Because you want the same lesson.

1:46:02 So one of the Traditions that we have is on on the day of Shavuot have like a stay up all night studying the scriptures basement. Oh but now that's fascinating. Stay up all night because they want to be prepared. For God to give them like, personally they want to be at Simon. I want to be ready for God to give them the Torah so that they can tell their children to know. So they can tell their children. God gave me the Torah so that, you know, not just God give our ancestral Rite, God gave me. It's almost a different way of saying go home and Ponder on these things. Yeah, yeah, I think I think you might be on to something there. Actually.

1:46:47 This reminded me there was As yet, he heals them and blesses their little ones in the says they're surrounded by fire against. There's the again there's that and Pentecost right? There's fine. Yeah Sinai, there's fire. Yeah. So there's these he's repeating elements that that you might miss if you don't you're not familiar with for right. We're going with everything is built. Yeah. Yeah, that's good stuff. Another notable occurrence of this in the scriptures is when they enter the chromosome. Now, you know, when they enter the promised land, can you guess show who you are close Passover.

1:47:33 Okay, says actually, they the Jordan River splits, right? And to go over the drill, I try in a very similar way to what happened with the Red Sea and And they celebrate Passover in the loan. They spend their first week in the promised land game Passover. Okay. And then, and then they conquer Jericho. And, you know, and that take you again, you kind of you can kind of look at the timing of things where they go and they They may have the Passover and that takes the unleavened bread, that takes a week Passover and unleavened bread that takes a week and then they March around Jericho and that takes, you know, a week plus. Cause I got to get ready.

1:48:22 And then right when they're ready, then they do the week thing and then they conquer and Jericho and then and then they get ready to conquer Ai, and which is kind of a battle that we're fighting right now. Yeah. I was gonna say there's some interesting parallels there. Beats them at first. Yeah, let's not let's not folks. Let's just focus on the end game, so they repent and they defeat Ai. And, and anyway, you just look at the kind of the timing of how long, all of these things would have taken. And then it doesn't, again, it doesn't save the date, but it's, it's about 50 days, right? And then Joshua goes up on Mount the two mountains there, mountie Ballin Go to escapes me anyway. Anyway and basically take some stones and he puts plaster over them and write on these stones and reads the law again to the people.

1:49:23 And why are they doing that? Thanks cuz it's they are rehearsing Shavuot again. Right happened at Sinai and but they're doing it in the land you know in the promised land and So there's some there's some really interesting things actually that have been discovered recently with Mount ebal and the like the cabinet. Have you heard about the lead tablet? That was yes covered there recently with yeah, the oldest it's like the oldest scripture. Scriptural, fragment drying we have and Mormons should be. Their ears will be program because it's so cool because it's on a metal tablet. And it's like, I asked - yeah.

1:50:06 And All the amazing things. Now, the instructions for Joshua to do that. Our in Deuteronomy. So this is another kind of amazing thing is that it and they dated the, the carbonated the bones and they taken samples of that little LED. And they found out that this is like there's like lead that was probably came from Greece and this time period, basically the things that happened there at Mount evolve basically happened at the time when the Bible said they were supposed to have happened. Crazy, I know weird, here we would put a coincidence. Hey again archaeological. Logical evidence is kind of slow. In its progress, we can come up we can come up with theories about things happen a lot faster than we can make discoveries about what things happen.

1:50:53 Well and I've got my own special take on archaeology. I mean look this is a disappointment. Only been in existence for 100 years. Yeah but somehow in that hundred years, we've been able to figure out everything that's ever happened within the human story and not get one thing wrong. All right? All right. So anyway, I like that because there is There is a documentary hypothesis for the Torah I was here. You cannot know, the idea is and there certainly is some Merit to this.

1:51:34 Okay? So and I wouldn't get you to get into the details, but the idea is that the Torah was not written by Moses, but that Moses was fictional or even if he or if he was real, that he just spoke some things and eventually Lee some scribes wrote it down and there's different groups of scribes that wrote it down and they all kind of, and eventually there was a, some editor that kind of compiled these and like change things. So I can make these different things fit and by the time, by the time, we have the total like and then Deuteronomy was the last thing ring but do and but according to this theory that Deuteronomy was not written until or like didn't become a book of scripture to the Jews.

1:52:22 Until after the time of Jeremiah, hmm. You know, with them King Josiah. But that's an interesting Theory and there are definitely some things in the text that like for example, Deuteronomy talks about Moses is death. Well Moses didn't write that probably. So but the conclusion that the Durant, the documentary hypothesis folks jump to I think I can see here obviously as well since Moses didn't write those one or two verses he probably didn't write any of it. There's all there's all late late, this kind of this. I mean, this, we have the Book of Mormon and we know that those folks like me.

1:53:10 If I went back to get the five books of Moses, right at the time of Jeremiah. But according to this hypothesis, Deuteronomy wasn't it wasn't a book. The fifth book wasn't a book until after the household. Anyway, this, it's a hell of a cling to make based on two little ones. Well, it's not only that okay, but but I don't think it is the scholarly point of view that, but I do not think it's I do not think that the text the Sessa Tate's belief in documentary, right? No, I don't think so either. And also this this recent discovery of the first tablet and and the altar that was found in all the other things of the archaeological evidence there, it takes a lot of, a lot of the wind out of the sails of the Majesty of documentary hypothesis, because because those artifacts that they found and whose instructions were given in the book of Deuteronomy those, the book of Deuteronomy was supposedly written, many many centuries after After right happened with Josh you know what was supposed to happen with Joshua. So anyway that's my take my take on that. So okay I'm going to we've talked about a bunch of different.

1:54:41 I'm going to say one other significant one. This is a this is a book of Mormon. Another Book of Mormon one is pretty interesting. Again, the timing is the time with this one. The date is not given, but the symbolism is definitely Shavuot because Moses comes down from the mountain, and his face is shining, right as he was transfigured. Yep. Right. Faces trans fat. He's he's shining his face is shining and he's talking about that. He's given the the Commandments right talking about the Commandments and does that happen in the Book of Mormon. Someone anyone have their face shining and talking about the community, The Ten Commandments. Oh yeah.

1:55:22 Yeah. Been a die, right? Yeah. Yeah. Talking to the Noah and his Wicked priest. So this the symbolism of his face shining is to get us to remember, both Moses? Yeah. And what happened at Sinai? Well, let me ask you this. We know that Moses was transfigured on sayonara shove it right. Any links showing that the savior's Transfiguration of on the mound happened during show week. That's, I don't know. I haven't looked into that. That's an interesting question, though. Because and also, Moses is there. Yeah, right.

1:56:03 So I think that's an interesting possibility. Yeah, I don't know if I can do that. Okay, here's a, here's another one, again. it's a when is when is Shavuot this year, this year, it's going to be on May 28. And because the biblical calendar doesn't the biblical calendar. Doesn't line up with record going calendar, which is what we use at the Gregorian, calendar is a strictly solar calendar, the Hebrew or the biblical calendar is a lunisolar. So the months kind of move around a little bit. But it's generally Shabbat is generally towards the end of May beginning of June, okay?

1:56:54 Okay so this is Covenant day so this goes to the the priesthood restoration, okay? So it's it is amazing for as significant a date or a significant a thing. As the restoration of the milk has increased. It is we actually don't have a date for when Peter James and John showed up, right? Yeah. No, that's yeah, which is, which is interesting and when we know in John, the Baptist came, yeah, make a team, but we know that sometime after May 15th and some time before before the end of June. That the priests aggressor is.

1:57:38 Wow. We know the first mention that we have of it is induct from Cummings, 18. And we actually don't know when that Revelation was received, accept it says, it was in June of 1829. So as before that Revelation whenever that was and you know, historians have kind of narrowed it down, but we actually to like most likely dates. But anyway, it's right. In their end of May, beginning of June. And you'll most my personal belief that it was drawing is tied into shovel units. So likely, right? Because I mean, we have other significant events from church history, right? That correspond with with Jewish festivals. Yeah.

1:58:23 Jewish feast days and so, and this is coming in day. Yeah, this is probably making day. So absolutely the old Covenant of the priesthood, you know. Yeah actually having to read Just remind me in Doctrine and Covenants. 84. Well I won't read it but I'll I'll just summarize. But push 84 has a lot to do with the mhm, but one of the things in there is it actually again talks about the replacement versus the redaction hypothesis. I think very clearly support the words. Clearly support the adoption hypothesis but it talks about the the aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods being together right on. So, Oh, and we know that in, at least in Israel's history at least since Egypt, like when they receive in located, or when the milk of the priesthood was offered. The first time, it was travel out because the first set of tablets had no Kids Attic stuf.

1:59:24 So that's when the Melchizedek priesthood was offered at least all right? Yeah, yeah. So I think it's perfectly reasonable to committee that inference that it was offered again in this dispensation offered I shoveled. Absolutely. Wow. So how do you celebrate it? Well, a really good way to celebrate it is to come to the restoration tour conference. I was going to say it was only a conference that was happening during this. So I would highly recommend that other things that they do. You know, I mentioned that tradition is to stay up, right?

2:00:07 Studying the scriptures In preparation you as though you as though you are anticipating the Revelation assign as though, they were getting ready to appear before God and receive whatever he has to give you, okay? So I mean that's a heavy thing. Yeah? Okay. And I'm going to read, I'm going to read one other thing. This is in Deuteronomy chapter 16 verse 16 and will be 17 20K. Three times in a year shall all die males appear before yahuveh by God in the place, which he shall choose in the Feast of unleavened bread.

2:00:56 That's one in the Feast of Weeks, shovel load, plus 2 and in the Feast of Tabernacles or Sukkot. So that's three. And then here's what he says, he says. And and they shall not appear before the Lord, and you were 17. Every man shall give as he is able according to the blessings of the Lord thy God, which he hath given. So one of the things that is Shavuot is a time for is bringing your offering to God. And says you bring an offering and says everyone. Everyone is no one is exempt.

2:01:38 Everyone. No one is supposed to appear before the Lord empty-handed, but everyone's supposed to come according to the blessing. That you've been blessed with. So some are going to have more summer going to have less. That's okay. But do not come empty-handed, right? But so you want to know how to keep shovel. Oh, make an offer. You have to the Lord and that can be. I'm not you know, going to tell you what that ought to be. You probably already know or you have an idea and if you don't know then you know pray and ask give give Some extra tithing give some extra offerings, help a charity, help your neighbor do it anonymously or or do it in person.

2:02:24 Whatever it is. Repent of some pets in. They have you know give up some worldly thing that you know you should give up bring an offering. It's awesome. Yeah it's do these conversations have been amazing, absolutely amazing. You know, I don't know. If you know anything about it but at or portions yeah, sure. We'll have to we'll have to sit down and have a conversation about those, okay. Because that fascinates me a lot and then maybe because I know like certain lunar signs are important in Judaism.

2:03:13 Yeah. And I like to go over some of those when we're going to have the moment. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I want to keep having you on, even though we've wrapped up the calendar series and there's plenty more to talk about. Absolutely. Well, dude, it's been awesome. Anything you want to say in conclusion? No, I think we can cover a lot of it, but So looking forward to this Shavuot, hope to see many people there. Yeah. The conference if you can make it and if you can't, by the way to I'll say the conference journals with the printed. Now a lot of the talks have been recorded and they're on YouTube there on those are Hammer Foundation, YouTube channel, if you want to look at. So you can look at past years and also the talks are going to be recorded.

2:04:03 And this year, as well, similar, they'll be put on YouTube eventually takes a so we're kind of slow, but also the conference journals are available on Amazon. To knows if you want to get past years for whatever reason, you want to collection. So those are available there too. If you're not able to come in person to pick one up. So perfect, dude, it's awesome. Good stuff. Yeah. Is going great, awesome. Alright, bye everybody. Bye. You're listening to the Mormon Renegade podcast. You're listening to the Mormon Renegade podcast.