April 1, 2023
Episode #61: Instalment Of The Jewish Calendar Series: Passover W/Joshua Erickson
On this episode I have Joshua Erickson back to continue our series on the Jewish calendar and feast days. Again I encourage everyone who has not done so to go back and listen to the first five episodes of this series. Today Joshua and I sit down to have a conversation about Passover. We go through the story in exodus then we talk about how the celebration is kept today and finish up talking about what we as Mormons can take away from the events of Passover.
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On this episode, I have Joshua
Erickson back on to continue our
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series, on the Jewish calendar
and feast days.
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Again, I encourage everyone who
has not done.
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So to go back and listen to the
first five episodes of this
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series today.
Joshua, and I sit down and have
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a conversation about Passover.
We go through the story of
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Exodus.
Then we talked about how the
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celebration is kept today.
And finish up by talking about
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what we as Mormons can take away
from the events of Passover.
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Dude, we're back again.
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Yeah, and I got a lot to talk
about today.
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This is a little heavier than
Purim.
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Yes, quite a bit heavier,
actually.
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Yeah, for him is very light and
fun and fanciful.
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Even and Passover is heavy
stuff.
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This is Angel of Death stuff,
Blood on the door stuff plagues
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and and and Redemption.
And all I had a buddy who was
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who's an Evangelical but also,
So a big fan of hard rock and
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heavy metal and he always said
he was like that episode from
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Egypt will Moses is there?
He's like that.
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Straight metal.
I'm like, that's probably not a
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bad way of putting it, right?
I mean plagues and everything
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else.
So I mean, the horror, the
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horror of the whole, the whole
whole scene, leading up to
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Passover, is just is horrendous.
Yeah, yeah.
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Well, and yeah, and here's the
thing, anytime you enslave the
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people, Going to go well for
you.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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I guess I would say.
Amen to that.
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Yep.
So tyranny tyranny, always
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brings its its own reward.
Yep.
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Yep.
So okay yeah so Passover is a
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big deal, not only for Judaism
but for Christianity obviously
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and Judaism and Christianity,
both kind of Point to various
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passover's as the foundation or
the beginning of their religion.
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Of course, Christianity looks at
the ancient Israelite Passover
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as a type and Shadow, in many
ways of the Passover that
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occurred with Jesus as the Lamb
of God, right?
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And so, it really is so much of
the Scriptures that the
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symbolism in the scriptures that
go back to or point back to to
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the Passover and The Exodus or I
suppose you could say the other
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way around that.
So much of the the occurrences
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that happened with the Passover
in Exodus actually point forward
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to gospel things.
And also even as do all the
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feasts point to Future realities
that are yet to be Yet to be
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fulfilled.
So you know, you can correct me
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if I'm wrong on this.
I'm used to be.
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Yeah, I'm used to being wrong to
me.
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I always looked at Passover and
found it to be unique in the
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sense that it was both a
religious holiday, as well as
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something that I think we could
kind of, almost equate to Fourth
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of July on our end a little bit.
Right?
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No, this is The Birth of a
Nation.
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This is Independence Day.
Yeah, in a real way, this is
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Independence Day for the nation.
In of Israel.
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Yeah, it's kind of a, yeah, The
Birth of a Nation.
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I don't know how else to put it
is the way to put it.
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Yeah, they see.
Is when Israel, as I mean
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Israel.
Israel is, of course, the name,
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the, the additional name given
to the new name, given to Jacob
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right after he wrestles with the
angel and And then he's got his,
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his family, his twelve sons, and
he's got at least one daughter
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that's mentioned and, you know,
they have children and stuff.
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But by the time, by the time,
they're ready to leave all when
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they go down into Egypt, that's
kind of a, it's kind of a proto
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pro donation, right?
Little, it's the seed of a
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Nation, but by the time they
leave Egypt there, many
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millions, strong.
And so it was miraculous on it.
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you know, an enormous scale and
and I think I think also the,
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the founders of this country
recognize that.
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I mean, our first seal, wasn't
the eagle with the arrows are
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fur.
Seal was Moses crossing the Red
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Sea with the children of Israel
and Pharaohs armies being
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drowned.
Yeah and I didn't stick so yeah,
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it was.
Yeah there there was this.
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Okay I'll give a spoiler.
You're going to want to show up
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to the Torah conference.
I'm talking a little bit about
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this one when you're there but
yeah it was it was very much The
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founder saw a lot that they
could equate to and whatever
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your views are on blacks in the
priesthood.
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I think, by now, we should all
agree slavery's, probably not a
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great thing, at least the
slavery that was practiced, you
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know, for the Africans during
during Antebellum Period, oh
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yeah, there's because it was,
it's not what it describes in
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the Bible, there's no
justification for that.
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And if you look, if you look at
the Bible, that was, that was
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indentured servitude with an end
date, right?
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There was an expiration date
there.
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This was something different and
I've often looked at the Civil
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War and thought, yeah, we
probably paid a price, we
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definitely did write that was
that there was a little bit of
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divine retribution there.
Yeah.
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Amen.
To that.
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So, okay, where to begin?
I guess.
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I mean Exodus is a beginning.
Passover is a beginning as we've
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been mentioning already.
So Exodus chapter 12.
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This is this is a new before
that in To this, we have the
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story of, you know, they're
being a new pharaoh who didn't
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know about Joseph and the
Egyptians are worried about this
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growing population of
Israelites.
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And you know, whether they're
how loyal they are to the
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Egyptian crown and Pharaoh says,
to start drowning the male
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children, right?
And of course we have the story
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of the the Valiant midwives,
right?
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Who lie to pharaoh and say oh we
we've tried to do your order but
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the The Midwives are the the
Hebrew women, their Lively, and
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they just give birth before we
show up.
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And and and so fair wasn't
pleased with that.
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But scripture says that God
blessed those midwives.
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Well, Anyway pharaoh, of course
decides that if we can't control
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their population and you will
continue to try to control their
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population, but we're also going
to enslave them in as a as a
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means of controlling the
Israelite population.
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And of course, then Moses comes
into the story and this is and
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he's Moses typifies Christ in so
many ways in this story.
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I mean, the first bit, we get
about, Moses is well, going back
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to the story of Jesus, right?
The we know the wise men come
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and Herod is not happy that
there's going to be a new King,
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right?
And so he sends soldiers to go
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and kill all the babies, of
course, Joseph and Mary.
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And Jesus, they flee to Egypt
for safety ironic.
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Yeah.
And so here here we have again
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actually A I would say Messiah,
type figure in Moses and he's
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going to.
He actually is going to take
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take the crown as essentially
from Pharaoh.
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Pharaoh doesn't know that yet.
But, but yeah, there's a wicked
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King who tries to kill the
babies to get rid of this
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promised child that the promised
child actually finds refuge in
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Egypt actually in Pharaoh's
house.
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Right is where Moses is raised
and at some point, Moses, he's
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raised as an Egyptian raised as
a prince, even, but he is out
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observing the Israelites in
their bondage.
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He sees in Egyptian taskmasters,
like seriously abusing this
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Israelite, man, and He secretly
or he thinks it secretly.
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He defends the Israelite, man,
and ends up killing the Egyptian
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and buries him in the sand and
hopes that no one will know
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about it, but people did find
out about it, somehow right.
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And Moses is afraid that word is
going to get out and we're does
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get out.
And so he flees and he ends up
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in Midian, you know, which is
Midian was one of Abraham.
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Children from Katara.
So he ends up in Midian ends up
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in the camp of Jethro who ends
up being his father in line and
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the midianites They have they
have next to next to their next
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to Jethro's, land is Mountain,
which they call the mountain of
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the lord.
It's just, which was Sinai or
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Horeb.
And we know the story.
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Moses sees this T's tending
sheep and he sees this Burning
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Bush was burning and not being
consumed.
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And this is obviously a curious
thing and he goes there to see
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what's going on.
And the Lord speaks to him
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through or from the bush, right
from the fire and gives him a
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mission.
And Moses is not real happy
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about that.
But God says you're the one.
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And, you know, I'll give you
your brother, Aaron is there?
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And he can help too.
So, there's so many things about
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Moses story that I'm going,
fascinating, right?
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And some of it, I can relate to
you although I'll never be as
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good. good as Moses, but this
idea of discovering your
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parentage, right?
Discovering your heritage, and
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then having that Heritage via
odds, with the worldly powers of
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the time.
I think that's something we can
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all relate to, at this point,
right?
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As we discovered, we're of the
family of God.
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There's a reason we don't fit in
with the rest of society.
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Also, I, you know, I remember
when I first became a Mormon,
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when I joined the LDS church, I
had to leave my In town because
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I was trying to quit drinking
and I was at that point where
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the party found me, I didn't
have to go look for it anymore.
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Yeah.
And so I had to remove myself
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and I remove myself to an
itty-bitty town about 45 minutes
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away where no one knew me or as
out in the country.
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And so there's some parallels
there, right?
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That's what you described.
There is, is the Passover story,
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right?
Yeah.
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In in microcosm, yeah.
Yeah.
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Year Are removed and so there
was a lot of Egypt.
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Yeah, there was a lot of Moses
story that that I could identify
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with and I've often thought and
we'll get to it in a minute when
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he has to go back and talk to
Pharaoh, must have been a
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strange reunions and I can
sympathize a little bit with
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that cuz I'll ran into guys from
time to time when I'm back in
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Idaho that I screwed around
with, and it's a little awkward,
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right?
Because, you know, they're like
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you want to go grab one and I'm
like, no, no.
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I'm I'm not much of a partaker
anymore and I remember one guy
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goes, would you become a Mormon?
Huh?
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I'm like.
Yep, that's hilarious.
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So yeah, you can only imagine
what it must have been like, for
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Moses to go through all of this
to be so high and be brought
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low.
I think, I think the way Cecil
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DeMille, painted it when when
Charlton Heston was crossing the
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desert where, you know, it
turns, you know, men in the
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Profit sort of a thing.
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There's some, there's some good
movies I've been made.
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Yeah, yeah.
I mean, this is actually a this
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is a type of Christ as well.
I mean, really Moses
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condescends.
Yeah, from Egyptian royalty to
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identifying himself with the
slaves.
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Yeah, I mean Hebrew.
He says yeah, he's yeah, I think
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there's something that we can
all take away from Moses story.
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There's something there.
It's such an intrical story of
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just not Just not the nation of
Israel, not just the Jewish
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people not just Mormons or
anybody else.
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I think there's something very
intrinsic there.
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Yeah.
That that we can take from.
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I mean that's why it's I mean,
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you know, the Bible is the
oldest, the oldest book in the
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world that still read, you know,
then the most widely read
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ancient book and there's a
reason for that.
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Yeah, these stories are
everyone's story, right?
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And they just and the stories
keep unfolding generation after
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generation.
Yeah, and always will because
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there's just truth there that
has to do with man's struggle.
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Yeah.
For freedom.
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And for salvation.
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And it's made an impression to
the point that it's in the
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psyche of every human, I think.
Yeah, right.
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Yeah, I had a good friend who
was an atheist named Jason and
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he once said, so why doesn't God
continue to talk out of burning
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bushes?
I said, because if anyone who
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was religious, saw burning bush,
we all know we're going the
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other direction because nothing
It's coming out the bat so
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amazing.
Well we won't go over too much
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of the other the story, you
know.
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But of course you know, Moses
asks for pharaoh to let them go
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Vera, says no, then there's
plague and we just go back and
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forth Affair saying, okay, okay
call it off and then another
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plague comes along right?
10 of them culminating in the
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final The final two plagues, our
darkness and then death, the
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slaying of the firstborns.
Yeah.
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And this brings us to Exodus
chapter 12, which is so all that
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other stuff was the first part
of Exodus.
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But in Exodus chapter 12, I'll
read here.
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The Lord spake unto Moses and
Aaron in the land of Egypt
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saying this month shall be unto
you the beginning of months.
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It shall be to you the first
month of the year to you.
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So so yeah, this is really a
beginning, this not only of
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their calendar which it was this
is, of course, passover's in the
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spring and it actually used to
be much more widespread this
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idea of New Year's being in the
spring, are a Roman Calendar has
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switched it to Winter January
but it used to be in the spring
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and this is this is why April
1st is April, April Fool's Day.
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Because there was a propaganda
propaganda.
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What's the word I'm looking for?
Push to try to get people to
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stop celebrating New Year in the
spring?
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Really?
Yeah and if you did then you
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were called faithful fool.
So really?
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I didn't know that.
That's fascinating.
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Yeah.
So anyway so yeah this is going
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to be the beginning.
Not only of the the calendar but
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also the Inning of the nation.
Like we, like we mentioned
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already.
Now, this goes actually
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essentially goes way way back
before that because if you go to
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Exodus 12, 43, 40 and 41.
Now, this is this is after
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they're like the day that
they're leaving.
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Which was, by the way, on the
15th of the month.
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So I'll back up just a little.
So beginning of chapter 12, he
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says, this is going to be the
beginning of the month.
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This is basically going to be
the new year here.
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So the first day of the first
month is going to be the new
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year.
And then later on, we'll talk
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about it.
A little more on the tenth day
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of this month.
They were supposed to pick out
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Lamb, excuse me, or goat to be
the Passover and then, and then
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the 15th starting on the 15th
and for seven days they're going
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to have the Feast of unleavened
bread.
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So, and this, this timing of the
first month actually is, there's
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an interesting mirror with the
seventh month.
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We talked about some of the
festival's of the seventh month,
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but on the seventh month, on the
1st of the month is trumpets,
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And then, on the 10th is Yom
Kippur and then on the 15th for
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seven days is the Feast of
Tabernacles.
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So, in the first month, we have
new year on the 10th, we select
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the Lamb on the 15th.
And for a week, we have Festival
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of unleavened bread.
And then in the 7th year month,
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we have the first is Feast of
trumpets or but also called Rosh
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Hashanah.
So the head of the year.
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It's a kind of a new year as
well.
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And Then we have the day of
atonement on the 10th and then
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Tabernacles.
And there's, there's this kind
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of symmetry between the first
and the seventh month for good
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reasons, there's actually a real
connection between between
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those.
So, of course, Passover and a is
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when we left Egypt.
But but the that's like when the
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when Redemption was completed
but the Redemption began.
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This is a little bit of Jewish
tradition.
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The Redemption began in the
seventh month on Rosh Hashanah
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where the Feast of trumpets
that's like, that's when the
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plagues began.
So, so the Jersey is like, for
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six months.
Often, you know, there'd be a
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few days or weeks of plague and
then there would be a little
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break.
And then another, you know, days
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or weeks of plague, you know,
for ten plagues.
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And then by the time it comes to
Passover, which is the 14th and
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then 15 is the day of unleavened
bread.
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The first day of unleavened
bread, then that's when our
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Redemption is complete and we
actually have freedom.
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So okay, all that though, is to
say that this, this wasn't
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actually, this is a beginning,
but the story of Passover
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actually begins centuries before
that.
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So in chapter 12, verse 40,
says, now the sojourning of the
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children of Israel who dwelled
in Egypt.
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And there's actually a
corruption in the text there.
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It should say, who dwelt in,
Canaan and Egypt.
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That's what the the Septuagint,
and some older versions.
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And in, in the New Testament
talks about that too.
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So anyway, sojourning of the
children of Israel who dwelt in
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Canaan and Egypt was 430 years
and it came to pass at the end
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of the 430 years.
And even the selfsame day, it
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came to pass.
That all the hosts of the Lord,
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went out from the land of Egypt.
Mmm, so hosts of the Lord, this
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is, of course, like the Hebrew,
there is the armies of the Lord.
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So this is the Lord's army is
right.
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So, so ought to the day 430
years ago to the day.
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Now, what is the day?
They're talking about even the
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selfsame day, that is the day.
That the Lord commanded Abraham
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to go to Canaan.
And where the God said, I will
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give you this land.
So that's, you know, that goes
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that goes back to Genesis.
Yeah.
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Well, Okay, so Genesis 12.
Verse 1.
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Now Jehovah had said unto
Abraham, get the out of thy
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country and from thy Kindred,
and from thy, Father's House
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unto a land that I will show
thee and I will make of thee a
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great nation, and I will bless
thee, and make thy name, great.
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And thou shalt be a blessing and
I will bless them that bless
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thee and curse them that curse
thee and in thee, shall all the
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families of the earth be
blessed.
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Okay, so there it is and and
that that promise was repeated
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to Abraham a few times.
But it's interesting because the
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story of Abraham is actually a
microcosm of the Passover again
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because he Abraham starts out in
Canaan.
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And where does Israel start?
They start out in Canaan as well
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and then at some Point Abraham
goes to Egypt and says the
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problem was, there was a famine,
right?
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The famine, so Abraham goes to
Egypt and he stays there for a
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little bit and eventually,
there's that, there's that
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episode with Pharaoh wanting his
wife, right?
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And he ends up, Abraham, Abraham
ends up rich, because of that
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mess up there and have a little
white lie, that was told She's
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my sister and then Abraham
leaves and goes back to Canaan.
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Okay.
And this is kind of the story of
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Israel as well, right?
Jacob, and his twelve sons are
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in Canaan.
There's a famine.
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They go down to Egypt and
they're there for a little
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while, and eventually they come
out with great riches.
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Yeah, and go back to eventually
go back to Canaan.
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And and the Israelites when they
go back to Canaan, then they
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drive out the inhabitants.
Now the story for Abraham is he
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goes down, there's a famine, he
goes to Egypt, comes out with
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great riches back and then he
drives out some of the
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inhabitants to he has Wars with.
Yep.
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Some of the, the kings around
Sodom and Gomorrah.
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And then of course, Sodom and
Gomorrah are and the other
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cities of the plain are
Seriously destroyed.
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But there's this this cleansing
of the land for Abraham's sake.
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Well, you could say for
Abraham's sake.
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So there's this, this mirror
there between the father, whose
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Abraham and his his posterity,
which Israel, you know, the the
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other thing that I find
fascinating for both Moses and
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Abraham.
Is this idea of get out of the
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country.
Leave, I'm chopping you off to
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do something different.
Yeah.
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What you're in now is corrupt,
you need to be removed if you
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seek righteousness.
And I think that there is
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something there that, that, that
I think we all have to wrestle
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with, which is looking at her
current circumstance, and go, is
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it good?
Or is it bad?
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Well, if it's bad, if it's
corrupt, And you got to, you got
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to leave, right?
And and I find that's corrupt in
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and irreparable and irreparable.
It's time to leave.
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That's right, right.
It's time to pack up and move
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and to me that is does something
that takes strength on the part
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of the person, I understand
God's commanding it.
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But you're not going to get that
out of somebody who's just super
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who's just week or or think for
themselves or something like
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that, takes a little bit of Guts
right, for lack of a better
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term.
I remember being 20 for having
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four kids the night before I
leave for Maryland.
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I'm laying in my house, a nice
house, comfortable house and
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Western Idaho, looking up, the
ceiling with everything packed
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up thinking.
What the hell am I doing?
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I know crazy, right?
And so I think there's something
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here where the Lord is saying,
even if it's not a physical
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move, maybe it's a spiritual.
Maybe the, the current system,
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you know, you're in or the
current system, you have a
443
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:03,800
spouse or the current system you
have developed for yourself.
444
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,600
Isn't working, doesn't seem good
is irreparable.
445
00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:10,300
It's time to move.
Yeah, yeah, especially when
446
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:12,000
yeah.
And you'll know that to right?
447
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,500
Yep.
Oh, he makes it.
448
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:17,900
He makes it very clear and it's
it's damaging to your soul.
449
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,100
Yep.
To know.
450
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,400
That you are in a bad place and
doing the wrong things and to do
451
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,600
it anyway.
Yep.
452
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,100
Yep.
Because I think we all have that
453
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:33,200
little bit of Light of Christ in
this that calls to us and says
454
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,000
yeah you better go this is not
the place for you.
455
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,600
I reminded of the kind of the
contrast between Abram and his
456
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,700
father.
Terah, right?
457
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:43,900
Tara.
I mean there's not a lot in
458
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:50,200
Genesis about Tara but in some
of the midrash stories
459
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,600
extra-biblical Or is Tara, is an
idolater.
460
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,200
There's my favorite story is
Abrams, you know a young man and
461
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,000
he's trying to figure out he
wants.
462
00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:08,000
He wants to be God's friend, he
wants to know, God, he wants to
463
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,900
serve God.
He wants to find out who the
464
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:15,000
real God is and serve the Living
God and his father, Terah has a
465
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:22,100
room full of idols and At some
point he comes to realize that
466
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,600
like, these are, these are all
just man-made things, these are
467
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,700
made by human hands, so this
definitely can't.
468
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:33,700
These definitely can't be gods.
And so he he decides he's going
469
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:38,400
to just chop up all the idols in
his father's little Idol room,
470
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,200
whatever that's called.
And he takes a hatchet to all
471
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,600
the idols.
There's just like I don't know
472
00:30:43,608 --> 00:30:48,000
dozens and dozens of them chops
them all up and then except for
473
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:52,100
except for the biggest one.
And he like puts the acts in the
474
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:59,200
biggest Idols hands.
And Tara comes home and he's
475
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,300
like, goes, you know, goes to
pray or whatever I do, make his
476
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:04,700
offering him.
Everything is just in splinters
477
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:07,600
you know all the all these Idols
are just in splinters and
478
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,900
shattered Stone and whatever and
Abraham or Abram.
479
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,400
What's going on?
What you know what's the meaning
480
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:19,900
of this and Abram says well I
you know, I brought in food To
481
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:24,700
offer to your idols.
And when I, when I laid the
482
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:30,500
plate of food down, all of the
little gods, they like start to
483
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:34,700
reach out to grab it before.
The big God was able to take the
484
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:38,500
food and he got mad and he
chopped up all the other ones
485
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:40,800
and Tears.
Like that's ridiculous.
486
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,600
Course he can't do that.
He's just he's just he's just
487
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,700
he's just wood or stone or
whatever and and earring says
488
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,400
well then why are why are we
worried?
489
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,900
We were Worshipping these, what
are we doing?
490
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,000
But but Tara was no Tara was and
I'm a servant of nimrod.
491
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,700
Yeah.
Yeah.
492
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,600
He was at part of nimrods
kingdom and just going along
493
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,700
with With the society and the
government and the religion of
494
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:06,600
his time and was a coward,
really.
495
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:12,000
And knew that this was not
right, but just kept his head
496
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,500
down, you know, and did what was
expected and didn't rock the
497
00:32:15,508 --> 00:32:16,400
boat.
So to speak.
498
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:20,600
Well, and I think this speaks to
where we get ourselves how we
499
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,500
get ourselves into trouble,
right?
500
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:24,900
As I think that it's one of
those things where it's like,
501
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:26,600
you think about leaving a
society.
502
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,900
So to speak or in your like,
well, gosh, I Got my job and
503
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:37,300
it's a cushy job and I'm paid
well and you got this house and
504
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:40,300
if I'm if I'm not making Idols,
what am I gonna do?
505
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,900
Right?
And so I'm good at it.
506
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:46,900
Yeah and so I think, I think
this is one of those things
507
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:50,000
where it really points to us.
You better stand on principle at
508
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,500
some point because if you have
to make justifications for well,
509
00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:59,300
Lord, you didn't expect me to
like just leave all that.
510
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:02,900
Did you get?
Well, yeah, he kind of does kind
511
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:09,200
of does kind of does, so he gets
to the point where there's going
512
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,400
to be the final plague, the the
death of the firstborn.
513
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:20,500
And so Jehovah tells Moses, this
is what we're going to do, this
514
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:26,500
is going to be, this is going to
be the destruction of Egypt and
515
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:30,300
the Redemption of Israel and
everyone anyone who wants to be
516
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:33,500
Part of Israel to.
And that, that was not, by the
517
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:38,300
way, limited to the literal
descendants of Jacob only.
518
00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:42,500
But when, when Israel left it
actually specifically, says that
519
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:45,200
there was a mixed multitude of
people.
520
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,300
Hmm.
Gentiles Galore who who came
521
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:55,000
along who were converted to the
worship of the Living God, you
522
00:33:55,008 --> 00:33:57,400
know, by all the things that
they had seen no doubt.
523
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:02,900
But God said basically, Anyone
who anyone who wants to survive
524
00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:06,000
this last plague.
This is what you do.
525
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,500
You take your lamb, choose it on
the 10th day on the 14th day.
526
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:15,900
Everyone together is going to
kill the Passover, by the way
527
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:20,500
Passover, it's just to get a
little terminology here.
528
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:24,400
A lot of times in our everyday
speech, when we're talking about
529
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,100
Passover we get the term
Passover confused with the Feast
530
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:30,400
of unleavened bread and
sometimes we'll say that.
531
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,100
Silver and the Feast of
unleavened bread are the same
532
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:37,100
thing.
There are actually two
533
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,800
different, but related things,
the Feast of unleavened bread is
534
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,699
the thing that happens for seven
days where they eat matzo only,
535
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:51,699
which is the unleavened bread
Passover is also not technically
536
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:57,400
not a day, Passover is the Lamb.
Okay?
537
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:00,900
And so when you read the
scripture that says Kill the
538
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:06,000
Passover on the 14th day.
So the Passover is the animal.
539
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,500
That's the name of the animal
that is killed on the 14th and
540
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:14,100
then is eaten with unleavened
bread and bitter herbs on the
541
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:16,000
evening of the 15th.
Right?
542
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:20,000
As as Nightfall comes after the
14th, then everyone's supposed
543
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,200
to be inside the blood is put on
the doorpost.
544
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,700
Right?
And there's just the the
545
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:31,800
symbolism is so rich with the
Lamb of God and, you know,
546
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,700
applying the blood to the door
of the house and basically
547
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:41,500
salvation is inside the house.
That's like you through through
548
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:44,100
the blood that you have to go
enter through the door.
549
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:49,800
You have to enter through the
blood of the Lamb to be in in
550
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,700
the house of Israel,
essentially, right over the
551
00:35:51,707 --> 00:35:54,700
houses of his right in order to
be spared.
552
00:35:56,300 --> 00:36:01,200
So the angel death comes and
says there's you know there's
553
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,400
not a there's not a house that
isn't affected because there's
554
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:08,600
firstborns all over the place,
right?
555
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:21,100
And so, So again, I mean, I want
to kind of give you the broad
556
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:27,300
overview, I guess here.
They finally Pharaoh says, you
557
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:30,400
have to leave, like, I've been
wanting to keep you but you have
558
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,900
to leave actually.
So they gather bother other
559
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:34,700
people.
All their flocks, they
560
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:39,800
scriptures say to borrow gold
and jewels from their Egyptian,
561
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,200
neighbors, their Egyptian,
neighbors are happy to give them
562
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:47,600
gold and jewels and treasure.
I mean in In reality.
563
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,300
It's not of course Israel leaves
with all this stuff.
564
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:52,900
I would not call that theft
though.
565
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:58,500
I think that's just back payment
for all of the years of slavery,
566
00:36:58,500 --> 00:36:59,100
right?
Yeah.
567
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:03,100
So anyway, they leave with all
of that and then and then
568
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:07,500
Pharaoh, hardened his heart
again, right?
569
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:13,900
And changes his mind and gets
assembles what few chariots he
570
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:17,100
has left because I mean, the
animals have been plagued.
571
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:22,000
As well but gathers up what
chariots he can and chases him
572
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,800
down.
This is a, they Israelites have
573
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,700
had a few days, Head Start and
they there at the Red Sea,
574
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,800
right?
And Pharaoh meets them there.
575
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,500
And of course, the Army is held
back by the pillar of fire until
576
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:40,000
the sea splits, the Red Sea
splits, and they go across and
577
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,400
this.
So the on the first day of
578
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,900
unleavened bread is when they
actually leave Egypt, But then
579
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:52,700
Pharaoh chases them and then on
the seventh day of unleavened
580
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:59,700
bread, which if you include
Passover, which is kind of, you
581
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:02,900
know, the it's Passover like the
day to prepare for the Feast of
582
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:06,200
unleavened bread.
So it's the eighth day since
583
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,500
Passover, and then that's when
they go through the Red Sea.
584
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,700
So, that's on the and, you know,
the scriptures say that the
585
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:17,500
first and last day of unleavened
bread are special, Sabbath's
586
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:22,600
Where we there's supposed to be
a holy convocation, says, or a
587
00:38:22,607 --> 00:38:28,100
solemn assembly.
And so on that, on that seventh
588
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:32,900
day is when they passed through
the Red Sea and the armies of
589
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:36,600
fairer destroyed.
And this goes, I was going to
590
00:38:36,607 --> 00:38:38,700
point.
I mean, this is there's so many
591
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:43,400
symbolic things, but one of them
that is often kind of Forgotten
592
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,100
is the fact that like the
Egyptians represent something
593
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,100
and the Egyptians really, they
represent the people in your
594
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:56,200
life who To keep you in Egypt,
right?
595
00:38:56,300 --> 00:39:01,500
And you mentioned this area,
like when you try to leave,
596
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:04,600
there will be, there will be
people who want to pull, you
597
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,000
back into those old habits.
Yep.
598
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,200
Into that bondage of whatever
sort it is, you know, spiritual
599
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,200
or, you know, bondage or
addictions, or bad
600
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,500
relationships, our sins of all
sorts.
601
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,200
But you know, that's that's a
real part of the story too.
602
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,300
So you know there's a lot of
symbolism just in that little
603
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:31,800
bit we went through or things
that we can take away obviously
604
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,700
you know the blood of the Lamb
is a big one but there's little
605
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:41,300
ones to that pop out at you when
you talk about having, you know
606
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:47,400
killing the Lambs, these are
slaves, okay, that are there the
607
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:53,100
the Israelites that time.
They're huddled together close.
608
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,100
We know that because of some
things you know oral tradition
609
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,800
what not the that it wasn't like
the slaves were allowed to
610
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,000
spread out.
They want you know the Egyptians
611
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,300
wanted them in one place so they
could have their eye on Goshen
612
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:12,600
was a huge one.
They don't have room for
613
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,900
livestock.
So if they have a lamb that
614
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:22,500
lamb, it's precious.
It's almost a pet now, I want, I
615
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:26,300
want to paint this picture
because the Lord's trying to
616
00:40:26,308 --> 00:40:30,300
teach something here.
This is an animal that your kids
617
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:34,200
have played with this is an
animal that has probably become
618
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,900
kind of like a dog, right?
I love my dog.
619
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:40,700
When all when everything else is
down, my dog is always there.
620
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:44,400
Right, always happy to see me,
right?
621
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,400
And then you're going to kill
that lamb.
622
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,500
Yeah.
You're going to see your father
623
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:51,300
kill.
That way.
624
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:54,800
I had to put a dog down just
over a year ago that we had for
625
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,400
13 years about you bawled like a
baby.
626
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,000
I bawled like a little girl.
I have no other way to say it.
627
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,000
I that tore me up worse than I
thought it would now you it's
628
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,900
surprising.
It is surprised you're faced
629
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:08,300
with that.
Yeah.
630
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:09,900
Yeah.
And motion involved.
631
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:12,500
Yeah.
And now all the sudden it takes
632
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:16,600
on a different feel when you
realized These people had that
633
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,100
animal that animal was was kind
of a part of the family at that
634
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:22,900
point.
And then to watch.
635
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:27,400
Your father, or maybe you have
to go do it.
636
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,700
There's some symbolism there
likewise with with the gold and
637
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:35,300
the silver, and The Jewels are
taken out of Egypt.
638
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,500
I think we can draw from that.
This idea of there's things that
639
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:45,300
we can take out of the world
that aren't inherently evil, and
640
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,400
then use them for the good use.
Yeah.
641
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:54,100
Now the same gold that was used
to, that was taken from the
642
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,800
Options.
I shouldn't say taken, but
643
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,500
because from oral tradition that
I've read and I could be wrong,
644
00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:02,100
Joshua, the Egyptians are almost
thrown in Adam right now, take
645
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,600
it and go get you to get, get
out, you know, here's all your
646
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,400
goals, whatever you need, just
go.
647
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,200
So they're throwing it out that
same gold.
648
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:15,800
Can be used to put the trim
around the Tabernacle.
649
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,200
Yep.
On the Ark of the Covenant and
650
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,000
it can also be used to make a
golden calf.
651
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,900
That's right.
That's good.
652
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,600
So there's some symbolism there.
The other is Is later on in the
653
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,600
in the story of the Israelites
when they get to Canaan and they
654
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,000
got to go to war and I never
thought about this to my buddy
655
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,300
bride up.
He's like where do you think
656
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:36,800
they got the weapons for war?
And I'm like, I don't know.
657
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,800
He's like, they were picking him
up off the seashore from the
658
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,000
Egyptians washing up.
Yeah, I've got, that may be so I
659
00:42:44,008 --> 00:42:47,700
like that.
And he's so there the symbolism
660
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,600
here is Rich and deep and
there's so much we can take away
661
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,200
from this.
If we spend some time really
662
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,900
reading the story.
And not just reading it but
663
00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:58,400
immersing ourselves in it and
thinking about it.
664
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:04,100
Yeah, yeah, beautiful stuff.
I mean, the story of Passover in
665
00:43:04,107 --> 00:43:10,600
The Exodus just has so many
layers and they just pile up on
666
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,400
top of one another.
It's almost hard to like we're
667
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,200
not we're just going to scratch
the surface.
668
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,400
You have this little meeting
here.
669
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:20,400
Yep.
So I do want to now we've kind
670
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,800
of laid the groundwork and and
you know most people are kind of
671
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,800
familiar.
With the, I think the basics of
672
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,100
the story but thanks Charlton,
Heston.
673
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:39,100
I know, I think Mormons can have
kind of a special appreciation
674
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:45,300
of the symbolic, meaning of this
story because of our kind of
675
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:51,300
view of the Plan of Salvation.
So I'm gonna, I'm going to lay
676
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,900
this out, just in brief but now
there's all Kinds of details
677
00:43:54,900 --> 00:44:01,100
that we could pick out there.
So The story as I mentioned,
678
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:03,200
kind of you starts out with
Abraham.
679
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:06,600
And he is the father of the
faithful.
680
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,200
That's more of a Rams names.
And and then he has a son, and
681
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,500
he has a son so it's Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob.
682
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:17,600
And these are the three
Patriarchs, okay?
683
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:24,500
And and Jacob, Jacob actually
becomes the people of Israel,
684
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:29,700
okay?
So then then when we're talking
685
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:35,400
about the, the Mormon idea of
the plant, Salvation, it kind of
686
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:42,000
it all starts with these three
starts with our, father starts
687
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,500
with Father Son and Holy Ghost.
Okay.
688
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:49,400
And and of course, the middle
one is the one that's
689
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,400
sacrificed.
Right.
690
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:52,400
That's right with Abraham, Isaac
and Jacob.
691
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,300
That's that is the case as well.
And also in this is a, you know,
692
00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:01,200
kind of a uniquely Mormon thing.
Is that the story story of The
693
00:45:01,207 --> 00:45:04,100
Plan of Salvation doesn't start
on Earth it actually starts It's
694
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,800
in heaven.
Mmkay.
695
00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:12,900
So by the story of Israel starts
in Canaan, which is the promised
696
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:16,300
land, which is symbolic of
heaven, right?
697
00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:18,300
Okay.
And then so we all start in
698
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:21,100
Israel starts in the promised
land.
699
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:26,200
And then they go down to Egypt,
which is the world, right?
700
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,400
And everything's good at first
light and when we come to the
701
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Earth, everything is good at
first because we're innocent and
702
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,100
we're not accountable.
But at some point Wait, slave.
703
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:38,500
No sin enters in.
Right?
704
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:40,400
The, the bondage of sin, I will
say.
705
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:45,600
And then there's all the all
that goes along with that, and
706
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:50,600
and then that eventually,
there's a savior provided.
707
00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:56,400
And then on, you know, we, you
know, there's a savior provided
708
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,900
in the Passover story.
That was the lamb, okay?
709
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,600
We Leave the World Behind, we
leave the Egyptians behind, they
710
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,800
don't.
Want us to leave.
711
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:10,000
They want to keep us in sin.
We come to, you know, but we but
712
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,800
we put our faith in the savior
in the lamb and then we come to
713
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,500
this point where we've had, we
have faith.
714
00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:25,000
So we we put the blood on our
house and we repent, you know we
715
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,700
like we're not going to build up
Egypt anymore.
716
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,100
We're going to do what God wants
us to do.
717
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:33,200
That's repentance, right, okay?
And we're going to go out into
718
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,900
the wilderness.
Earnest and then that prepares
719
00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:40,400
us for baptism and that is the
that is the Red Sea, right?
720
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,700
Israel.
The entire as a nation as a
721
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,700
witch in the scriptures is often
referred to as a as a person
722
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:52,400
like Israel as a body, right is
sometimes referred to as God's
723
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,800
son, sometimes referred to as
God's servant sometimes as God's
724
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,400
wife.
I just depending on the metaphor
725
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,500
that's being used but but as a
corporate body, we go underneath
726
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,600
the water, right?
And this is on the, on the
727
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:13,800
eighth day to, hmm, right?
So the number eight is is
728
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,900
connected to the baptism, right?
Okay.
729
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,900
In lots of stories, 8 Dare die,
barges and eight people on NOAA
730
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:28,600
ship and and so on.
So we go under the, we go into
731
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,200
the water and then there's a
pillar of fire that guides Us
732
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,400
in.
This is the Holy Ghost Train,
733
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:36,700
and we go out into the
Wilderness and, and there's a
734
00:47:36,707 --> 00:47:41,500
period of purification, right?
So after after we are, baptized
735
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:45,200
the scriptures would refer to
this, as like justification.
736
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,400
But then there's a period of
sanctification where we become
737
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,500
holy, now, in the story of
Israel, it's the the old
738
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:56,700
generation dying off bit by bit
and being replaced by the The
739
00:47:56,707 --> 00:48:02,300
new generation who then is
finally worthy to enter Heaven.
740
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:09,200
Again, enter the promised land
and so there's so there's this
741
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:13,300
this cool thing right?
Where we start in heaven, we
742
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:17,700
descend to Earth, go through all
these trials and plagues and and
743
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:20,500
eventually escaped and there's
baptism and then there's all
744
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:23,000
this sanctification and then
ultimately we want we end up
745
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,200
back in the same place where we
began and the other cool thing
746
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,100
about it.
Is that I mentioned this earlier
747
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:35,400
is that Abraham who is symbolic
of the Father Here, Right
748
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,600
earlier in the story, he
actually did all that stuff
749
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,800
first before, right?
Abraham, does this stuff?
750
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,500
Yeah.
Starts out in, Canaan goes down
751
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:47,900
to Egypt, and returns to Canaan
and goes through all the
752
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:52,100
struggles and things, and then
his descendants make the same
753
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:55,600
new Trace in, Trace his
footsteps.
754
00:48:56,700 --> 00:49:01,200
So to speak.
So, there's a lot of, there's a
755
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,600
lot of details that could be
pulled out there.
756
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,600
Yeah.
And what I find funny is that
757
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:10,000
this story continues to cycle
through in Time After Time,
758
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:13,100
right?
You can see it in this story
759
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:17,800
that we're talking about.
You can see it in in the the
760
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,800
colonists that were here for
Religious Freedom, right?
761
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,800
We're going to break away, we're
going to go do something
762
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,800
different and then you see it
again with with You know, in
763
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,800
three or four generations after
them where we're breaking from
764
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,700
England and then let's make it
really Mormon.
765
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,900
Now Brigham's, going to take the
Saints out of the United States
766
00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:42,400
and break away again, Mormon
Moses, right?
767
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,900
Exactly.
And so this story can I would
768
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:48,900
imagine that we're going to see
another episode of this only.
769
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:50,800
Maybe not so physical.
Right?
770
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,200
Maybe now it's a matter of
spiritually, coming out of
771
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,600
Egypt.
Oh yeah, right.
772
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,400
Whatever your Egyptian.
Chipped is there's this idea now
773
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,200
of coming out of it, maybe it's
shutting off the social media.
774
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:10,400
Maybe it's, you know, just
finding a way to leave Egypt or
775
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:20,800
Babylon behind you and go
forward. yeah, I mean yeah, I
776
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:23,500
have a lot of thoughts going
through my mind but yeah it's
777
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:30,600
part of it is Part of it is the
the truth of knowing what it is
778
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,000
you're supporting.
I mean, in one sense.
779
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,300
They were slaves.
Yes.
780
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,500
Okay.
And so I don't know how much,
781
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,900
you know, we can't.
We can't necessarily blame
782
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:49,300
individual Israelites for that,
but in another sense like we
783
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:51,900
sell ourselves.
Yeah, into slavery, right?
784
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:53,300
Yeah.
It's like okay.
785
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:56,200
We'll go along with that.
And and before, you know, it,
786
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,600
you're you're actually building
up Egypt.
787
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,200
Yes, yeah.
And, and I think part of the
788
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,500
plagues part of the plagues is
to get pharaohs attention, but
789
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:12,000
part of it's probably to get the
Attention to be like hey you see
790
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,300
this beautiful Nile near that
you they probably made proud.
791
00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:19,600
Maybe they'll of the Nile.
They took pride in this awesome
792
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,500
river.
That was well it's that was in
793
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:23,800
their country at least The Giver
of Life.
794
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,900
Yeah.
Through there right.
795
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:28,500
I mean you're probably drawn
your water from there and Wells
796
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:30,700
associated with it.
Here it is.
797
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:32,100
Yeah I'm going to turn it to
blood.
798
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,500
All the fish are going to die.
It's going to stink and frogs
799
00:51:35,500 --> 00:51:39,600
are going to come out and all
the things that Some point all
800
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,000
the things that you thought,
maybe we were kind of cool or
801
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,700
nice about Egypt and they did
think, Egypt was nice, they
802
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:48,900
complain to Moses over and over.
Let's go back.
803
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:54,600
You know, in Egypt, we had
cucumbers and leeks to eat, you
804
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,900
know, and at least, at least we
were, at least, at least the
805
00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:04,300
Egyptians fed us.
It's like, wow, you would you
806
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:05,600
want?
I mean, it's selling your
807
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,100
Birthright for a mess of
pottage, you know.
808
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:09,600
Yep.
Like you would Trade your
809
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,100
freedom for some cucumbers.
Well, and I think it's actually
810
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:16,300
deeper than that.
So I've I've thought about this
811
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:19,200
a little bit.
Once when, when we adopted our
812
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,600
twins we had to become foster
parents first.
813
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,000
Yeah, which was just asinine,
right?
814
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,100
I have four kids who were doing
well because of my wife.
815
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:30,500
I'm not gonna lie.
It wasn't it?
816
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:34,900
It had nothing to do with me but
anyway they're doing good and
817
00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:37,900
I'm taking a class on parenting
from somebody who's never had
818
00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:41,700
kids.
Move me nuts down, right, but I
819
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:45,200
played the game.
One day I was getting ready to
820
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,500
head out of that class I mean,
I'd go that class.
821
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:49,600
I'm like you look at what you
get out of here, right?
822
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,100
I would be watching the clock
and I'm like, I'm out one day.
823
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:58,100
I get caught, I was talking to
another guy and the lady, he was
824
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:01,900
teaching, the class came up and
said, hey, I was wondering if
825
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:05,500
you would go with us.
Some, a pretty big guy, right?
826
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,500
We have to do and what they
called an extraction, okay?
827
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,600
For my house.
And the the, the city Police
828
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,000
Department was fairly thin and
she's like, they've assured us,
829
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,200
that it's safe.
But I would like some help.
830
00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:21,800
There's going to be one other
cop there and I'm like, okay
831
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:27,100
fine, right, so I get in there,
do this, and we drive down
832
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:32,700
there, and it's just horrible
conditions, Joshua, there's no
833
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:36,100
food in the house.
There's moldy food in the house.
834
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:39,400
There is feces on the wall,
filth and squalor.
835
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,200
It's filth and squalor, and you
can tell these kids have been
836
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,400
abused like Having been a former
smoker.
837
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,100
I know what a cigarette butt
burn looks like and those kids
838
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:53,100
had them.
It was horrific.
839
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,200
Horrific made me want to pound
somebody.
840
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,200
I was like, where is he?
I got something I want to give
841
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:04,300
them.
And what struck me is even when
842
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:07,300
we were telling the kids we're
going to take you someplace
843
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:08,800
safer.
You're going to be able to go
844
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,200
someplace where there's good
food they fought.
845
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:14,700
They were Were like I can't
leave here.
846
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:16,700
I got to stay here.
I got to stay here.
847
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:20,400
This is where I'm at and there's
this human condition that we get
848
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,400
in where the fear of the
unknown.
849
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:29,900
Seems worse than whatever
condition you're in now.
850
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:33,500
And I think that that we can
take that lesson away that.
851
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:38,300
Yeah, sometimes the unknown is
way better than what's here.
852
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,600
Devil, you don't the devil, you
know, is better than the.
853
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,300
Yeah.
I don't I don't necessarily
854
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:45,600
ascribe to that in most cases, I
think, well, maybe not.
855
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,400
Right and and I think I think
that's the Lord saying don't be
856
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,100
too scared of change.
Change is inevitable.
857
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:55,700
So yeah so I think part of the
plagues was God just had to
858
00:54:55,707 --> 00:54:57,800
destroy Egypt.
Yeah, it doesn't.
859
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,700
It's not appealing anymore
because yes just hail and fire
860
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:05,000
and all he did his.
Yeah.
861
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,100
Like let's just destroy this
place so that by people are not
862
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,200
gonna feel a desire to stay,
right?
863
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:17,300
Yeah.
So, yeah.
864
00:55:17,300 --> 00:55:20,200
Anyway, I mean, that happens,
there World felt of fell apart,
865
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,700
and they experienced a lot of
the plagues to not all of them,
866
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,800
but the first few, the
Israelites and the Egyptians
867
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,000
felt equally.
So there's you and there's a
868
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,800
lesson in that to like God's
people are not guaranteed to.
869
00:55:37,900 --> 00:55:41,500
Have an easy time at it when the
plagues and the destruction come
870
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:43,000
like you're going to feel it
too.
871
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:48,800
But but Ultimate Destruction
there's a promise there that
872
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,200
Ultimate Destruction will not
what you will pass over you.
873
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,300
Right?
So yeah.
874
00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:06,100
So let's see, so now there's
There's kind of three, three
875
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:10,900
kind of closely related
festivals or important days
876
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:13,900
surrounding Passover.
There's the Passover itself,
877
00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:17,800
which is, as I mentioned before
is the, is the Lamb actually in
878
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,900
the lab or the, or the goat is
killed on the on the 14th.
879
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,100
And then beginning on the 15th
and going for seven days, we
880
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:28,200
have the Feast of unleavened
bread and why unleavened bread
881
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:32,200
to remind them of the haste with
which they left.
882
00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:34,700
Egypt, right?
They couldn't wait for the bread
883
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:37,100
to rise.
And so, they baked these flat,
884
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:41,500
this flatbread.
And then the other thing is
885
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:46,800
late, this didn't this didn't
happen when they first left
886
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:52,300
Egypt, but later on in Leviticus
look in, Leviticus 23, it talks
887
00:56:52,300 --> 00:56:59,800
about the first fruits offering
and this is the this this is the
888
00:56:59,808 --> 00:57:05,600
first fruits of the barley So in
in the land of Israel The Barley
889
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,600
becomes ripe.
At about the time, I'll pass
890
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:15,100
over a little before and the
rule that God gave is when The
891
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:19,600
Barley starts to become ripe, no
one can eat, you're not supposed
892
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:26,200
to eat the new grain until the
first offering has been made to
893
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,500
God.
And then, and then, and then you
894
00:57:29,508 --> 00:57:32,600
can Partake of the bread after
that.
895
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:40,900
So and that that first day of
first, fruits, actually, there
896
00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:42,800
are different Traditions about
this and we can talk about that
897
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,800
a little bit, but it's connected
with the Feast of unleavened
898
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:51,800
bread.
I'll just say that one, the most
899
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,600
common tradition, which is the
tradition that the rabbi is
900
00:57:54,600 --> 00:58:01,700
take, is that the day when the
first Sheaf of barley is
901
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:07,500
supposed to be offered is the
second day of unleavened bread.
902
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:09,000
Hmm.
Okay.
903
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,600
The carrots, which is another
branch of Judaism.
904
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,900
They feel like that.
It's it's going to be basically
905
00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:21,100
the Sunday during the Feast of
unleavened bread.
906
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:25,500
Whenever that it doesn't could
be, could be the first or the
907
00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:28,000
second, third, fourth fifth or
sixth or seventh day.
908
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,800
But when there's going to be a
Sunday in there, Somewhere, he
909
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,000
would be the day after the
weekly Sabbath basically.
910
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,600
So, and in ancient times, these
two views were basically the
911
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:41,300
Pharisees and the Sadducees like
disagreed.
912
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:46,700
Coraz��n is about the Sadducees
were of the of the opinion.
913
00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:50,100
That the first fruit offering
mentioned in Leviticus 23,
914
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:53,900
should be like during the Sunday
during the Feast of unleavened
915
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:55,600
bread.
And the Pharisees said, No, it
916
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,000
should be the second day of
unleavened bread.
917
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Whenever that is okay.
So fast forwarding now, too.
918
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,000
Jesus, and his fulfillment, of
course, there's so many things
919
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,900
that did that Jesus fulfilled.
He's referred to as the Lamb of
920
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:20,800
God and over and over throughout
the scriptures when it when it
921
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,600
talks about a lamb, like in the
Book of Revelation, there's this
922
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:31,900
lamb is talked about and I mean,
it's referring to this Passover
923
00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:33,500
imagery.
Okay.
924
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:39,300
So there's all kinds of things
that actually, the The
925
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:42,900
celebration of Passover and the
different kind of rituals.
926
00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:47,100
They, they point to they talk
about Jesus triumphant entry.
927
00:59:48,300 --> 00:59:51,000
They talked about his cleansing
of the Temple.
928
00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:57,100
Before Shadow him as the as the
Passover Lamb.
929
00:59:58,100 --> 01:00:03,800
The significance of the Lord's
Supper, the sacrament, the the
930
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,800
Passover rituals foreshadowed
the place and time of his
931
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,300
crucifixion.
They foreshadow those
932
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:15,800
responsible for his death.
There's foreshadowing of the
933
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,100
three days in the Tomb and also
the the time of his
934
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:22,200
resurrection.
So all of those things We are
935
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:28,700
fulfilled in detail by Jesus,
and he is his passion week
936
01:00:28,700 --> 01:00:32,100
basically.
So, first one is the the
937
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:36,000
triumphant entry.
So this and you can read, this
938
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:41,100
is in John, in the gospels.
Matthew Mark talked about it,
939
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:45,700
too, but this is, when Jesus
comes riding into Jerusalem, on
940
01:00:45,700 --> 01:00:49,600
the donkey and everyone's
shouting Hosanna, and they've
941
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,600
got the palm branches.
Has and they're throwing down
942
01:00:52,600 --> 01:01:00,200
their jackets or whatever to to
make a path for him and they
943
01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:07,200
they hail him as King right
essentially and this at this
944
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:13,600
point like until this this
really is this setting Jesus
945
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,700
gets set apart from the rest of
the Israelites.
946
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,600
He's been mingling with them,
he's been mingling with the
947
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,500
lowlifes, right, the tax
collectors, the prostitutes and
948
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:32,900
the Sinners, and, but now
suddenly he is, he's gaining
949
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:37,400
traction, he's gaining
popularity and he suddenly gets
950
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:43,500
elevated to King essentially in.
It's symbolically speaking they
951
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:48,000
recognized him as that and this,
you know, the Leadership has
952
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,300
been nervous about him.
Oh yeah but they're like no no
953
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,500
we definitely got to take care
of this problem.
954
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:57,100
This is embarrassing.
Right?
955
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,300
And this this happens this John
gives the timing.
956
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:03,900
This is happens on the tenth day
of Passover their 10th day of
957
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:06,700
the first month.
This is when the Passover Lambs
958
01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:13,300
are so set apart from the rest
of the flock as the as the
959
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:17,300
sacrificial lamb.
So, here he is, set apart.
960
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:20,200
His with, with the triumphal
entry.
961
01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:27,700
So Jesus, of course, cleanses
the temple to okay, makes a whip
962
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,800
and it's a, it's a great story
for all those people who you
963
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:37,200
have the the big teddy bear,
loving accepting Jesus, right?
964
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,000
That wouldn't hurt a flea or
whatever, right?
965
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,100
But, you know, he braids takes
the time to braid a whip, and
966
01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:46,200
then goes in and flips over the
tables and cleans house.
967
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:51,100
Yep.
And this is fulfilling the
968
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:58,400
Passover symbolism as well,
because in preparation for the
969
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,800
Feast of unleavened bread,
they're supposed to clean their
970
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,600
houses of all the comments or
the Levin.
971
01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:11,400
So, here he is, he says, I'm
cleaning my father's house right
972
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:17,800
of the wickedness that's there.
And of course leaven in the Hers
973
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:23,000
has a number of meanings, but
generally, not always, but
974
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,000
generally there's kind of a
negative connotation.
975
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:29,300
Right. 11 is represented
representative of sin of some
976
01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:34,300
sort or false ideas.
At least, like Jesus said,
977
01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:38,700
Beware of the leaven of the
Pharisees right now.
978
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:43,200
It's not always, it's not always
negative, but usually it is.
979
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,200
Jesus also says, To his
followers, A little leaven
980
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,900
leavens, the whole lump like he
he wants us to be the leaven for
981
01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:57,100
the world.
But I, but with the righteous
982
01:03:57,100 --> 01:04:01,000
counterpart, to the leaven of
the Pharisees, in the wickedness
983
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:08,700
of these, these uninspired
Traditions that the Pharisees
984
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:13,600
are constantly trying to pile
onto everybody Jesus. he gets
985
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,200
criticized for not following
their Traditions all the time
986
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,600
even though he's since he's
keeping all the Commandments but
987
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,600
he does not keep their
Traditions, you know, he Pick
988
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,100
some food on the Sabbath and
heals people on the Sabbath.
989
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:32,100
And his his disciples eat with
unwashed hands and he's being
990
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:34,700
criticized constantly.
But all these things that he's
991
01:04:34,700 --> 01:04:36,900
being criticized about, none of
them are actual Commandments,
992
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:39,000
right?
These are otherwise, he's not a
993
01:04:39,008 --> 01:04:41,500
seamless, right?
They're all, they're all the
994
01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:44,700
traditions of the Pharisees,
which he says, beware of this
995
01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:51,800
this leavening that they have.
So, so, so he's, so there's,
996
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,600
there's some corruption in the
temple.
997
01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:56,000
To and who knows what all that
entails.
998
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:01,900
I've heard the theories about.
you know, your people bring
999
01:05:01,900 --> 01:05:09,700
animals and, and The priests
were maybe saying oh you know
1000
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,500
you know we found this problem
with your lab that you brought.
1001
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:18,400
So why don't you?
You know we have some here
1002
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,000
though that you can buy from us
that are certified or whatever
1003
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:27,700
and they were you know kind of
Abusing the system as they
1004
01:05:27,700 --> 01:05:29,700
turned into a money-making
operation.
1005
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,000
Yeah.
Jesus didn't like that.
1006
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,000
No.
So he cleaned 11 out of his out
1007
01:05:34,008 --> 01:05:39,300
of his father's house.
Then of course, he is the Lamb
1008
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:44,500
that the scriptures are full of
that and he's not only is he the
1009
01:05:44,500 --> 01:05:46,100
lamb?
But he's the lamb that was slain
1010
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,600
from before the foundation of
the world, from the foundation
1011
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,300
of the world.
So this is always the plan and
1012
01:05:54,500 --> 01:05:57,000
Time and place of his
crucifixion.
1013
01:05:58,500 --> 01:06:02,400
Now, in the, in Exodus chapter
12, when they're, when Jehovah
1014
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,200
is giving instructions, he tells
them to on the on the 14th.
1015
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:11,300
He says, you're supposed to kill
kill the Passover Lambs on in
1016
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:16,300
the afternoon.
The Hebrew phrase is between the
1017
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:21,800
evenings, okay?
So in the Hebrew Hebrew way of
1018
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,000
thinking, about the day, there's
actually two evenings and we
1019
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:31,800
actually in our English, modern
speech, we refer to these things
1020
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,900
as evenings to the first evening
is noon and when the sun, when
1021
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:39,900
the Sun reaches high place and
then starts to go down that's
1022
01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:42,400
evening and of course we say
p.m. that's right.
1023
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,400
Evening right.
But then there's also the
1024
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,700
evening where the sun is
actually getting close to the
1025
01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:49,900
Horizon and you searched the sky
turns red and starts to get
1026
01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:52,300
dimmer.
We call that evening as well.
1027
01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:57,800
And so did ancient Israelites.
So between the evenings is the,
1028
01:06:57,900 --> 01:07:00,900
the phrase used.
So so that was in the afternoon
1029
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:06,000
and typically the Passover Lambs
were killed between like 3:00
1030
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:11,900
and 5:00 p.m.
And in the Gospels it says
1031
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:15,200
that's that is that is the time
that Jesus was crucified to.
1032
01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:16,500
Wow.
Right.
1033
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:19,900
Right.
Then when at the temple, all of
1034
01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:24,000
the the Passover Lambs were
being killed Jesus.
1035
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,400
At that same time, was being
flogged and then nailed to the
1036
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,900
cross and all those horrible
things.
1037
01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:42,500
So, so evil, feel that now There
is kind of an interesting.
1038
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:52,200
Glitch in the gospels.
And that is the synoptic gospels
1039
01:07:52,700 --> 01:07:55,100
of Matthew, Mark.
And Luke, they all say that the
1040
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:59,900
last supper or they don't
necessarily say, but they imply,
1041
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:06,900
they imply very strongly that
the last supper was the Passover
1042
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:17,700
however, John says that it was
before the Passover Now, and
1043
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:23,500
which I agree, I agree with John
because if Jesus had kind of
1044
01:08:24,700 --> 01:08:29,200
eaten the Passover and then been
killed the following day, he
1045
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,700
would, he would not have been
the Passover Lamb.
1046
01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:34,600
Right?
Is more important for him to be
1047
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,700
the Passover than to partake,
eat the Passover, right?
1048
01:08:37,899 --> 01:08:42,399
And actually in Luke, he says he
says, I have really want.
1049
01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:44,100
He says, I've desired with
desire.
1050
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:47,000
Great.
Our to eat this Passover, but
1051
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,600
I'm not going to I'm not going
to partake it again until until
1052
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,500
the kingdom.
I've got rights, basically.
1053
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:57,700
So anyway, there's some things
we probably won't get into it
1054
01:08:57,700 --> 01:09:04,200
but there's looking at the Greek
construction of the sentences in
1055
01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:11,500
Matthew, Mark and Luke it
actually it actually can be
1056
01:09:11,899 --> 01:09:14,000
translated a couple of different
ways.
1057
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:17,200
And I think the better
translation is rather than at
1058
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,800
some point says on the first day
of unleavened bread, the better
1059
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,200
translation is it actually says
before before the Feast of
1060
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,899
unleavened bread they were
getting they're making
1061
01:09:24,899 --> 01:09:28,000
preparations.
So anyway, that's just a little
1062
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:33,399
side note but I think Jesus was
here, he was crucified when the
1063
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:36,100
Lambs were being slaughtered
slaughtered.
1064
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:42,600
Yeah.
Okay, so those responsible for
1065
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:50,000
his death to the Passover.
The Passover ritual is actually
1066
01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:56,900
tell us about that too and it's
really tempting sometimes to
1067
01:09:56,900 --> 01:10:02,400
point to the Romans say, ah,
yeah those those dirty Romans,
1068
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:07,800
they're the ones that killed
Jesus or even to say those the
1069
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,800
Jews, especially the, the
corrupt Jewish leadership.
1070
01:10:10,900 --> 01:10:16,100
They're the ones that killed
Jesus, but you know who, you
1071
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:19,600
know, who kills the Is over.
It's the actual people of Israel
1072
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,800
when they allow Barabbas to go
free.
1073
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,500
Yeah.
The people you know the people
1074
01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:29,900
the people do that.
And and and that's what in
1075
01:10:29,900 --> 01:10:33,700
Exodus chapter 12.
He says you know, the father of
1076
01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:38,000
every house you're going to you
you are going to kill the lamb
1077
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:45,000
and it is it is by them and and
for them that the lamb is killed
1078
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,600
and you know I mean that's a
humbling thing to think about
1079
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:54,200
actually I think about that
sometimes when you know what I'm
1080
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,900
doing the sacrament with my
family ER fellowship or
1081
01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:03,900
whatever.
We partake of the bread and the
1082
01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:08,000
wine.
You in remembrance of Jesus.
1083
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:13,600
But the guys, the guys who are
administering, right?
1084
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,100
Are the ones who are ripping you
have flesh, right?
1085
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,900
Yeah, this is me.
This is my sins.
1086
01:11:21,700 --> 01:11:25,000
Every time I tear it.
I just think of my, you know, my
1087
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,200
sins.
And this is what I do.
1088
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,200
This is what I did to my savior.
Yep.
1089
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:33,600
And I, I his blood was poured
out because of me.
1090
01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:36,200
Yep.
And for me, And it was not the
1091
01:11:36,208 --> 01:11:38,200
Romans who shed his blood that
was me.
1092
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,400
Yep, you know.
So I think there's also an
1093
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,600
interesting parallel there to
that.
1094
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:51,700
We know that there was a large
faction of Israel that wasn't
1095
01:11:51,700 --> 01:11:54,500
happy that Rome was there.
Yeah.
1096
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:55,400
Right.
Right now.
1097
01:11:55,407 --> 01:11:59,100
And rightfully so I don't think
any of us would be happy with an
1098
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:02,700
occupying power.
Very few having said that
1099
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:10,800
Because of political strife's.
They were so angry, they prefer
1100
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,600
to murderer.
Over somebody else and I think
1101
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:20,200
that that can be kind of a
cautionary tale as well, right?
1102
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:26,700
And I get some Flack for this.
I liked Trump as a president.
1103
01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:28,300
I thought he did some good
stuff.
1104
01:12:28,300 --> 01:12:32,300
I was a huge fan when he moved
the embassy to Jerusalem I'm
1105
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:36,500
like I didn't see that coming.
So I yeah, II definitely didn't
1106
01:12:36,500 --> 01:12:39,400
vote for Hillary, but I did
write in another candidate.
1107
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,100
I did right in Ted Cruz because
I just didn't think Trump.
1108
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,800
Was was a constitutionalist.
I was wrong.
1109
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:50,500
I'll admit that he was better
than I thought he was.
1110
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,100
The one thing that scared me
about Trump was that he appealed
1111
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:59,000
to everybody's anger?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
1112
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:02,800
And that to me is always
troubling and I think you see
1113
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:07,900
parallels in that with what
happened with Barabbas and
1114
01:13:07,900 --> 01:13:11,200
Jesus, right?
People are so angry that they're
1115
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,700
being occupied.
We want we want not Jesus,
1116
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:15,900
right?
We don't.
1117
01:13:15,900 --> 01:13:18,600
They weren't look, whoever we
doesn't matter, right?
1118
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,600
Just he's anybody to make the
Romans lot harder and we know,
1119
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:26,000
That Barabbas, he was he was one
of the zealots, right?
1120
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,100
He was one of those hanging out
down, by the Galilee performing
1121
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:34,600
Guerrilla tactics and that sort
of thing because let's face it.
1122
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,400
If he's murdering other Jews,
the Jewish people, probably are
1123
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,000
more like, yeah.
You keep him.
1124
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:42,000
Yeah.
Yeah.
1125
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,600
We'll take Jesus.
And he Barabbas is killing
1126
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:50,400
quote, the right people.
And so that political anger can
1127
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,700
be somewhat blinding and I think
it's a cautionary tale to be
1128
01:13:54,700 --> 01:13:56,600
very careful who you're pinning
to?
1129
01:13:56,900 --> 01:14:01,000
Yeah, no that's that's blinding
is the right word.
1130
01:14:01,100 --> 01:14:01,700
Yeah.
Yeah.
1131
01:14:01,700 --> 01:14:05,200
When you let your anger, dictate
a lot of your decisions.
1132
01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:09,600
You knew a lot of silly crap
when you're angry and that was
1133
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,400
that was my only not now.
And it's not only a.
1134
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,500
Yeah.
And it's and it's the anger of a
1135
01:14:14,508 --> 01:14:16,600
crowd too, right?
Yeah.
1136
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,500
Yeah.
It's that mob mentality.
1137
01:14:19,900 --> 01:14:23,200
You've seen those those Your
posters like sky, right?
1138
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,800
Yeah, this Eagle soaring, or
whatever or the cat hanging on
1139
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,100
and says, hang in there.
Yeah.
1140
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:30,800
They're an excellence and
persevere and all that.
1141
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,900
There's, there's also, there's
a, his company is probably a few
1142
01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:36,700
companies that make not
motivational posters but
1143
01:14:36,700 --> 01:14:39,900
demotivation I've seen those are
awesome bellarius.
1144
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:45,500
My favorite one though is its
pictures and all these hands
1145
01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:48,100
like in the middle like we're
going to we're going to do a go
1146
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:52,900
team kind of thing.
But the caption is like I think
1147
01:14:52,900 --> 01:14:56,400
the caption says, teamwork and
but then the the subtitle is
1148
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,300
none of us is, as dumb as all of
us.
1149
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,700
Yep.
Yep.
1150
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:03,700
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's easy.
1151
01:15:03,700 --> 01:15:07,900
There's so many Grace embolisms
within the Passover and when you
1152
01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:11,600
start looking at what happens to
Jesus, it's, it's, it's good
1153
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,500
stuff.
Yeah.
1154
01:15:12,500 --> 01:15:16,300
It's the it's the best.
So, okay.
1155
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,600
You know, his time in the Tomb
and the time of his
1156
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,800
resurrection, this is really
cool too because Hey.
1157
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:30,200
Paul, the Apostle.
Paul, he picks up on this in his
1158
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:36,800
writings and he refers to Jesus
as the firstfruits of them that
1159
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,200
slept.
Okay.
1160
01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:42,700
And this is talking about the,
the first fruits of the barley
1161
01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:48,700
Harvest and, and equating that
to the resurrection and Paul has
1162
01:15:48,700 --> 01:15:57,500
plenty of imagery about this.
But as I said, you know, the and
1163
01:15:57,500 --> 01:16:04,400
this happens during Passover and
it happens on happens on, as I
1164
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,700
said that the Sadducees felt
like, it should always be on the
1165
01:16:06,708 --> 01:16:10,500
Sunday and Pharisees thought it
should be the second day.
1166
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:12,000
And sometimes those were the
same.
1167
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,700
And the year that and I love
this to about about Jesus is
1168
01:16:16,700 --> 01:16:20,000
that I think the year that he
died, those were actually
1169
01:16:20,300 --> 01:16:24,300
listening to same day.
So, It actually satisfied, both
1170
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:26,700
both calendar systems.
Okay?
1171
01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:34,000
But but basically Jesus is the
first Sheaf of the resurrection
1172
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,900
of the first fruits of the
Resurrection.
1173
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:39,500
So and what that means is, no
one else can partake of the
1174
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:44,500
Resurrection until that first
shieff is offered right?
1175
01:16:44,500 --> 01:16:49,900
And he and Jesus says that to
Mary in the garden.
1176
01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:54,700
He says I he says don't hold me.
Some of the translations say
1177
01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:57,600
don't touch me but that's not
what he was intending.
1178
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,100
I don't believe says, don't hold
me as in.
1179
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:03,500
Don't hold me back.
I need to go present myself to
1180
01:17:03,500 --> 01:17:06,900
the father, right?
As that as that first Sheaf of
1181
01:17:06,900 --> 01:17:12,500
the resurrection and then once
that is done, then other other
1182
01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:15,500
folks can partake of the
Resurrection to gotcha.
1183
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,700
So, so that was fulfilled there
as well.
1184
01:17:17,900 --> 01:17:25,500
So really, really amazing stuff.
Now, how is it?
1185
01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:30,200
How is it celebrated, you know
these things?
1186
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:38,100
Well, the modern the modern
celebration really is in a
1187
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:43,000
Seder.
So seder, Passover seder is a
1188
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,200
Seder means and ordered meal.
Mmm.
1189
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:51,400
So they have this symbolic meal
and there's kind of these parts
1190
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,500
it's kind of like a play almost
and you're the father will say
1191
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:58,300
something and then the family
will say something and then you
1192
01:17:58,300 --> 01:17:59,900
know, the children will say
something and there's kind of a
1193
01:17:59,900 --> 01:18:11,300
script That you read and in a
lot of ways I the Seder is very
1194
01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:15,200
much like the endowment.
Hmm.
1195
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:24,100
And the reason for that action,
we're going to going to read see
1196
01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:28,300
if I wrote it down.
Let's see.
1197
01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:29,900
Well let's see.
In Exodus 13 somewhere.
1198
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,700
Okay.
So one of the one of The
1199
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:38,500
Commandments connect it to
Passover is that you are
1200
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:41,800
supposed to teach this to your
children, right?
1201
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,100
Forever and you're supposed to
do these things.
1202
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:50,500
And you know, keep this as a
memorial for ever, that's how
1203
01:18:50,500 --> 01:18:54,700
important it is.
So in Exodus 13 starting in
1204
01:18:54,700 --> 01:19:07,900
verse 14. let's see, actually
Okay.
1205
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:10,800
Yeah now I'm going to read I
start in verse 8.
1206
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:15,400
So just before that he's talking
about seven days of unleavened
1207
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,500
bread.
And verse 8 says and thou shalt
1208
01:19:18,500 --> 01:19:23,600
show thy son in that day saying.
And by the way, this aisle I'm
1209
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:28,600
going to back up to five, sorry.
No Exodus 13 Verse 5 says when
1210
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,300
when the Lord shall bring thee
into the land.
1211
01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:38,200
Okay, so when the Lord brings
them into the land, was there.
1212
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:43,100
Anyone who is brought into the
land who actually experienced
1213
01:19:43,500 --> 01:19:46,200
what happened in Egypt?
No, because they all the old
1214
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,900
generation died off in the
wanderings.
1215
01:19:47,900 --> 01:19:52,100
No one except Joshua Caleb.
Yep, that's it.
1216
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:58,000
So, but even though, even though
none of the people there who
1217
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:02,200
will be brought into the land
actually experienced it, this is
1218
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,400
the Commandment that they're
Ian, it's really amazing.
1219
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,100
Now shall Shew thy son in that
day, saying this is done because
1220
01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:14,600
of that, which Jehovah did unto
me when I came forth out of
1221
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,400
Egypt.
Hmm!
1222
01:20:16,700 --> 01:20:24,200
See, so, even nowadays, like,
you are the Commandment is that
1223
01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:26,300
when you have your family,
sitting around the table and
1224
01:20:26,300 --> 01:20:29,500
you're eating unleavened bread
and lamb and bitter herbs.
1225
01:20:29,700 --> 01:20:33,700
And you tell the story you're
supposed to tell your Children.
1226
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:40,000
This is what God did for me when
I came out of Egypt and, and
1227
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,000
every generation is supposed to
tell, this is what God did for
1228
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,000
me.
When I came out when he took me
1229
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:54,400
out of Egypt throughout your
Generations because 11, our
1230
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,900
ancestors story is our story.
Yep.
1231
01:20:57,700 --> 01:21:04,500
And to this is this is a We've
mentioned it several times.
1232
01:21:04,500 --> 01:21:08,600
This is a personal story that
gets told over and over, you
1233
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,600
know in the endowment it says
each of you is supposed to
1234
01:21:12,700 --> 01:21:15,800
consider yourselves as though
you were.
1235
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,900
You had him and Eve, right?
We weren't Adam and Eve and yet
1236
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:23,900
we and yet we are Adam and Eve.
And this is a story about us and
1237
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:27,800
we are learning.
We are taking upon ourselves
1238
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:32,800
this the identity of our
ancestors and add going through
1239
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,500
the thing.
That they went through and
1240
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:38,500
learning about the things that
they experience in hopes that we
1241
01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:40,600
can have the blessings that they
had.
1242
01:21:41,300 --> 01:21:43,800
Right.
And so when we when the Seder,
1243
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:47,900
when the seder meal is done and
we tell the story and we go
1244
01:21:47,900 --> 01:21:52,300
through these, this ceremonial
reenactment of that night.
1245
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,400
Each of you is to consider
yourselves as though you were
1246
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,500
there in Egypt, right?
And you were freed and you tell
1247
01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:00,800
your children, this is what God
did for me.
1248
01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:04,000
Personally, you know, that's one
of the Things I love about
1249
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:09,100
Mormonism, is that?
You can always tell where God
1250
01:22:09,100 --> 01:22:11,300
has been because he leaves an
impression that lasts for
1251
01:22:11,300 --> 01:22:13,600
generations and preceding
Generations.
1252
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,100
Hearken back to it.
We do this with our youth,
1253
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,600
right?
And this this will ring true,
1254
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,400
especially in the LDS church.
How many times have they went
1255
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,100
back?
Re-enacted Trek.
1256
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,900
Right?
Why would you do that?
1257
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:30,000
It's this exact same thing.
It is, God was in the details of
1258
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:30,800
that.
How do I know?
1259
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,400
Because his impression is so
defined that we now have
1260
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,600
successive generations to
Generations.
1261
01:22:36,700 --> 01:22:40,000
Going back.
To reenact those things to have
1262
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,900
an appreciation to have that
experience.
1263
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,700
It's the same thing he did with
the Jewish Nation with Israel
1264
01:22:47,500 --> 01:22:51,500
reenact this.
This is just it's just like he
1265
01:22:51,500 --> 01:22:53,800
went through it.
It's just like the endowment.
1266
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,100
That's a good because you're
going to pass through with the
1267
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:58,700
ultimate ancestor passed
through.
1268
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:00,400
Yeah.
To get here.
1269
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:01,300
That's right.
Yeah.
1270
01:23:01,300 --> 01:23:04,800
It's like the I mean I reminded
of lectures on faith.
1271
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,900
I think it's six or seven.
I can't remember now but it's
1272
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:10,300
basically like like you want you
want the blessings that your
1273
01:23:10,300 --> 01:23:12,900
ancestors had em.
You do it?
1274
01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:14,000
They did.
Yep.
1275
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:17,800
And and it is vain for you to
think that you can have the same
1276
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,900
blessing without the same
sacrifice, you do it.
1277
01:23:19,907 --> 01:23:21,400
They did.
You'll get the blessing they
1278
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,400
got.
And that's it, that's the rule.
1279
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,200
And I think it's also a
fulfillment of that promise
1280
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,000
where, you know, the hearts will
be turned to the fathers.
1281
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,900
And the hearts of the children
shall be turned to their fathers
1282
01:23:32,900 --> 01:23:34,200
and their fathers to their
children.
1283
01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:37,300
Yeah, I think that is very much
a part of that.
1284
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,500
Because what better way to have
your heart turn to your
1285
01:23:40,500 --> 01:23:44,800
ancestors, then to you, as they
did to experience what they
1286
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,100
experienced.
And if I'm not mistaken, the
1287
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:51,800
seder meal has some pretty
bitter herbs, you're going to
1288
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,100
recoil at the experience, just
like your ancestors did.
1289
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:57,400
That's right.
Yeah, yeah.
1290
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:01,700
It's beautiful, beautiful.
But that that like welding link
1291
01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:04,500
between the generations is built
into the Commandments
1292
01:24:04,500 --> 01:24:10,200
surrounding surrounding.
The observance of Passover.
1293
01:24:11,300 --> 01:24:16,000
So yeah.
Now there's so the Seder.
1294
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:20,700
I said the stator is in seder is
found in a book called the
1295
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:24,400
Haggadah.
The Haggadah I've gotta means
1296
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,300
the telling.
So this this contains the and
1297
01:24:27,300 --> 01:24:29,900
I'm holding one here for those
of you who can't see, but the
1298
01:24:29,900 --> 01:24:34,700
Haggadah is it contains the
story of Passover, which they're
1299
01:24:34,700 --> 01:24:37,700
commanded to tell and also kind
of the instructions for the
1300
01:24:37,900 --> 01:24:39,000
Emil.
Right.
1301
01:24:39,500 --> 01:24:43,200
And yeah.
And it involves these symbolic
1302
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:47,200
elements, the main, you know,
the symbolic elements that are
1303
01:24:47,300 --> 01:24:53,900
required by the scriptures are
lamb, unleavened bread and
1304
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:59,500
bitter herbs and you mention
bitter herbs can be many things,
1305
01:24:59,500 --> 01:25:04,700
but traditionally that involves
horseradish and, and the
1306
01:25:04,700 --> 01:25:07,400
tradition with that is that
you're supposed to take like the
1307
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:12,600
size of Olive like and it's
uncomfortable, right?
1308
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,000
And it's supposed to be, it's
supposed to bring you to tears,
1309
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:15,800
you know?
Yep.
1310
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,500
And it does.
Okay.
1311
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,400
Now there are there are
additional symbolic elements
1312
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:27,200
that have been added over time.
And that includes like washing
1313
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,800
of hands.
There's a couple of times where
1314
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:34,900
this is done and eating this
mixture called Hora set, which
1315
01:25:34,900 --> 01:25:37,600
is basically made from fruits
and nuts.
1316
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:42,000
And juice or wine kind of boiled
together into a paste.
1317
01:25:42,300 --> 01:25:45,300
And this is to remind them of
like the mortar that they made
1318
01:25:45,300 --> 01:25:47,200
bricks with and stuff.
Okay?
1319
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,500
And there's also these, these
cups of wine trade, the
1320
01:25:53,500 --> 01:25:57,300
tradition is four cups of wine
at various points throughout the
1321
01:25:57,300 --> 01:26:05,500
meal.
And so, little side note on
1322
01:26:05,500 --> 01:26:10,000
that, by the way, out of you, if
you ever have you seen John
1323
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,600
Donne Bradley's book?
The Lost 116 Pages.
1324
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,900
I've seen it.
I've never read it.
1325
01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:17,900
Excellent book.
Highly recommend it.
1326
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:22,700
He has some really interesting
historical background that has
1327
01:26:22,700 --> 01:26:27,500
been dug up about the contents
of the Lost pages.
1328
01:26:27,500 --> 01:26:32,800
And at least one of The
interesting details that's lost
1329
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:38,700
is that at the time when Lehi
and his family, make their
1330
01:26:38,700 --> 01:26:42,200
Exodus from Jerusalem, it is
during this Festival of the
1331
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:46,600
Jews.
And there's good evidence from,
1332
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:49,600
there's good evidence that this
was that Lehigh probably left
1333
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:55,300
during Passover.
And the fact that fact that
1334
01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:59,300
Nephi found Laban drunk in the
streets, probably, because he
1335
01:26:59,308 --> 01:27:01,500
was out, he's probably had more
than four cups of wine.
1336
01:27:02,300 --> 01:27:04,600
But anyway, but is probably
connected with Passover.
1337
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,800
There's a lot of actually
Passover imagery, kind of in The
1338
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:11,900
Exodus of Lehi, and his family.
So so there's a little more,
1339
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,200
another, another Mormon
connection there.
1340
01:27:15,900 --> 01:27:25,100
So anyway, the Seder is
interesting because nobody
1341
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:27,100
actually knows who wrote the
Seder.
1342
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:32,200
There's many different kind of
versions that have come up over
1343
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:36,600
the years, but but we know that
it's about 2,000 years old.
1344
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:39,900
At least interesting, though,
smidge.
1345
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:49,800
Yeah, interesting though, is
Many things in Christianity and
1346
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:55,300
Mormonism included.
Have, you know, either I will
1347
01:27:55,300 --> 01:28:00,600
say continued continued or
borrowed symbolism and elements
1348
01:28:01,300 --> 01:28:05,700
from Judaism but the the
exchange has gone the other way
1349
01:28:05,700 --> 01:28:07,800
too.
And there's actually there's
1350
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,400
actually very good.
There's some, there's some good
1351
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:16,700
evidence that the, the Jewish
Seder actually was Is a response
1352
01:28:16,700 --> 01:28:23,300
to the Christian celebration of
Passover because the Last
1353
01:28:23,300 --> 01:28:25,900
Supper, which although it was
not a Passover, definitely had
1354
01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:29,400
Passover significance, right?
And so in the Seder, there's
1355
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,600
washing of hands in the Last
Supper, there's washing a feet.
1356
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,500
There is the the bread, there's
the wine right?
1357
01:28:36,500 --> 01:28:44,500
Which is in the Seder to there's
Jesus dipping his his bread into
1358
01:28:44,500 --> 01:28:46,200
some sort of diversion.
It's op.
1359
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:51,400
It says right of course Judas
dips within right but but in the
1360
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,100
in the Seder, there's these
haroset, like I said, they
1361
01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:57,700
actually dip into the haroset
and also there's saltwater.
1362
01:28:58,100 --> 01:29:00,200
That's vegetables, are dipped in
at another time.
1363
01:29:00,700 --> 01:29:04,300
But so there's all these and
there's several cups actually
1364
01:29:04,300 --> 01:29:06,800
have wine in the end.
The Last Supper there was
1365
01:29:07,700 --> 01:29:11,300
there's cups mentioned in
throughout the synoptic gospels.
1366
01:29:11,300 --> 01:29:18,100
So, Anyway, the oldest account
in of any historical account
1367
01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:20,900
that we have of anything that
looks like a Seder is actually
1368
01:29:20,900 --> 01:29:26,400
the last supper.
And so this actually is a, you
1369
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,700
has its roots there where I
believe so.
1370
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:42,300
So, That was going to say.
So, anyway, The satyrs Cedars,
1371
01:29:42,300 --> 01:29:45,400
great.
We usually have, oh, I was gonna
1372
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:50,900
say, so there is, there is some
controversy about whether or not
1373
01:29:50,900 --> 01:29:55,300
you should have lamb in modern
times.
1374
01:29:55,400 --> 01:30:02,100
So rabbinic Jews, they
definitely frown upon eating
1375
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:05,800
lamb.
During the Seder.
1376
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,900
And a big part of that is
because they have no Temple, no,
1377
01:30:09,900 --> 01:30:11,700
absence of a temple.
All right.
1378
01:30:11,900 --> 01:30:19,300
And they say there are some
verses in Deuteronomy that If
1379
01:30:19,300 --> 01:30:27,000
you read it one way, seems to
say that that the Passover needs
1380
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:32,000
to be killed at the temple.
And in second in second temple
1381
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,700
times.
Like, in Jesus day, that is kind
1382
01:30:34,700 --> 01:30:37,700
of the practice at least for the
people who were living in
1383
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,200
Jerusalem.
They would bring their lambs to
1384
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,500
the temple, to kill them, and
then take them home and eat
1385
01:30:42,500 --> 01:30:47,300
them.
But I don't want to get into the
1386
01:30:47,300 --> 01:30:52,600
details there, but but isn't
Deuteronomy 16 and it may be, I
1387
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:57,900
think Deuteronomy 16 is actually
describing the the national
1388
01:30:58,300 --> 01:31:02,100
celebration of Passover versus
the individual, familial
1389
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,400
celebration of Passover, which
is described in, Exodus 12 and
1390
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:11,400
13, Passover unleavened bread.
By the way, is this isn't.
1391
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:12,900
Here's another kind of Mormon
connection.
1392
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:17,900
There's there's some time.
Of the year, when everyone is
1393
01:31:17,900 --> 01:31:21,900
supposed to come together, come
to the temple, come to
1394
01:31:21,900 --> 01:31:25,200
Jerusalem, and bring their
offerings.
1395
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,500
And also just receive
instructions from the priest and
1396
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:30,300
stuff.
And one of them is in the spring
1397
01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:36,200
Passover, which is around April
and one of them is in at the
1398
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:40,600
Feast of Tabernacles, which is
in around October usually.
1399
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:46,600
So, although the, you know, the
LDS General Conference the And
1400
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,400
the beginning of April, in the
beginning of October, they're
1401
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,300
not, they don't always line up
with unleavened bread and
1402
01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:54,300
Tabernacles but they're
definitely an echo there.
1403
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,400
The other time the third time,
when in this supposed to be this
1404
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,000
is just for the man other
people, you know, the women are
1405
01:32:01,100 --> 01:32:03,600
allowed to, there's no
restriction there but the manner
1406
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:07,200
required to show up and bring
their offering represent the
1407
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,200
family and bring their
offerings.
1408
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,500
Like I said, and receive
instruction and stuff.
1409
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,900
The other time is Shavuot or the
Feast of Weeks.
1410
01:32:16,500 --> 01:32:21,800
So which is coming up soon and
you're going to you're going to
1411
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,700
give us a talk there at the
restoration Torah conference.
1412
01:32:25,700 --> 01:32:28,400
We'll talk more about that next
time, I guess.
1413
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,900
But anyway, there's controversy
about about that but I am
1414
01:32:32,900 --> 01:32:38,900
convinced that although there
are sacrifices and stuff that
1415
01:32:38,900 --> 01:32:41,800
we're supposed to be done by the
Levites and done in the temple.
1416
01:32:42,100 --> 01:32:46,300
And you Joseph Smith himself
said someday.
1417
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,300
Those things are going to be
done again when again.
1418
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,000
And and Joseph Smith says the
same things at the rabbi say,
1419
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:54,200
which is when the temple is
built.
1420
01:32:55,100 --> 01:33:00,700
When there's a proper place to
do these ironic things, that
1421
01:33:00,700 --> 01:33:06,000
there will be a renewal at least
partly of the, the animal
1422
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,600
sacrifices, as part of the
restoration of all things.
1423
01:33:09,500 --> 01:33:13,400
However, when I read the, when I
read Exodus and read about the
1424
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,300
the Passover Lamb, there's is no
Levites involved.
1425
01:33:16,500 --> 01:33:18,300
Left.
It's just the father of every
1426
01:33:18,300 --> 01:33:20,900
family is supposed to do it.
There's no Temple involved.
1427
01:33:20,900 --> 01:33:27,400
You do it at your, at your house
and so we we do that, we have,
1428
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,600
you know, a lamb that we've
raised in, you know, have one in
1429
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:35,600
my backyard right now, that's
getting bigger by the day and
1430
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,700
you will Slaughter and roast
that lamb.
1431
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,100
I built an oven in our backyard,
so and that'll feed.
1432
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:48,200
Excuse me, fellow feed.
Well, we usually have something
1433
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:52,200
like 60 to 70 people.
Wow, who come, and they course
1434
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:55,900
we don't only eat the lamb, but
we eat the lamb and and then eat
1435
01:33:55,900 --> 01:34:01,600
the bitter herbs, and the matzo,
and the Heart of satin and the
1436
01:34:01,608 --> 01:34:03,300
glasses of wine and have the
Seder.
1437
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:06,300
And it's a good experience,
that's awesome.
1438
01:34:06,500 --> 01:34:10,400
And so when you doing that this
time, so this this year, it's
1439
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,100
going to be April 5th.
The evening of April 5th.
1440
01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:14,900
Evening of April 5th.
Yep.
1441
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:24,300
Will be Paso, Paso the day that
the quote, the day of Passover,
1442
01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:26,400
the day that the lamb is killed
is going to be the fifth.
1443
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,500
But then as the fifth goes into
the evening, you know, after
1444
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:36,300
Sundown then that becomes the
15th day of the first month
1445
01:34:36,300 --> 01:34:40,900
which then is the first day of
unleavened bread which is when
1446
01:34:40,900 --> 01:34:42,300
the lamb is supposed to be
eaten.
1447
01:34:42,300 --> 01:34:46,900
So the lamb is killed on the
14th and then eaten with the,
1448
01:34:47,500 --> 01:34:50,600
the matzo and the bitter herbs
on the 15th of the evening of
1449
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,200
the 15th.
Wow.
1450
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:57,700
So it's kind of been an
emotional experience.
1451
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,300
Oh, you can't.
Yeah.
1452
01:34:59,300 --> 01:35:04,700
You know, I'm definitely not a
vegetarian and I have no problem
1453
01:35:04,700 --> 01:35:07,500
going to the store, you know,
and buying this.
1454
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,900
Yeah.
Processed bloodless gutless
1455
01:35:11,900 --> 01:35:16,600
hairless odorless piece of meat,
you know wrapped in styrofoam
1456
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:23,500
and you know plastic wrap and
whatever faceless but yeah the
1457
01:35:23,500 --> 01:35:28,600
first time the first time that I
actually slaughtered a lamb for
1458
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:34,400
my family to eat.
It was hard and it still is hard
1459
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:35,900
guy.
Don't do it that often.
1460
01:35:35,900 --> 01:35:38,800
I mean do it once once a year.
You know.
1461
01:35:41,500 --> 01:35:44,400
I didn't know if I could do it
the first time actually, I mean
1462
01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:47,400
right.
Which is but it was it was a
1463
01:35:47,407 --> 01:35:49,800
little, it was surprising.
Actually we mentioned that
1464
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,700
before like I didn't I didn't I
didn't really think about it.
1465
01:35:53,700 --> 01:35:58,400
I didn't anticipate having a
problem but ma'am.
1466
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:05,100
I know when I went to, you know,
we cut its throat, you know, to
1467
01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:11,900
slaughter it but that was it
took a long time for me to get
1468
01:36:11,900 --> 01:36:16,400
up the Courage, you know I guess
I've got of Courage is the right
1469
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:21,300
word but just the strength to do
it and then and then the loss
1470
01:36:21,300 --> 01:36:24,500
that I felt was just palpable
to.
1471
01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:26,300
Yeah.
Yeah.
1472
01:36:26,300 --> 01:36:31,600
And Again, I think that's
designed for a reason, right?
1473
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:37,600
That's that's to show you if you
feel this way about Nana,
1474
01:36:39,700 --> 01:36:44,200
Imagine essentially, having
offer up your own firstborn, who
1475
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:48,500
did nothing wrong.
Yeah, lived the perfect life.
1476
01:36:48,700 --> 01:36:49,900
Yeah.
Yeah.
1477
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:56,000
I have my, until till my, when
my kids are young.
1478
01:36:57,900 --> 01:37:00,300
I don't really, you know, when
they're really little, I don't
1479
01:37:00,300 --> 01:37:02,000
really want him out there,
right?
1480
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,800
It's hard to understand.
But, but as soon as they're
1481
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,900
eight, That before that if
they're interested they can come
1482
01:37:08,900 --> 01:37:11,200
watch.
But after they turn 8, they're
1483
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,100
required.
Like you have to see what is
1484
01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:19,700
being done on your behalf.
Now, you are now that you're old
1485
01:37:19,700 --> 01:37:22,300
enough that you're going to be
accountable, you need to
1486
01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:26,400
understand and I think that's a,
that's a powerful image, you
1487
01:37:26,407 --> 01:37:28,000
know.
Absolutely.
1488
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:34,000
It is. yeah, and I hunted for a
long time.
1489
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:35,900
I stopped talking about 5 years
ago.
1490
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:41,100
And mainly because I got lazy.
I'll admit that the last time I
1491
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:44,000
woke up in October to a foot of
snow up in the mountains, I'm
1492
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,700
like, yeah, what are we doing
here?
1493
01:37:46,700 --> 01:37:51,100
What are we doing?
But No matter how many times I
1494
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:53,600
went hunting.
There's still that twinge.
1495
01:37:53,600 --> 01:38:00,500
I mean there's still that that
feeling and I think that's how
1496
01:38:00,500 --> 01:38:01,900
he looks good.
Yeah, I think it's healthy.
1497
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,900
Yeah, I think that's healthy.
I think, I think it does two
1498
01:38:04,900 --> 01:38:07,700
things.
You become truly grateful for
1499
01:38:07,700 --> 01:38:12,600
that animal.
You, you become truly grateful.
1500
01:38:12,700 --> 01:38:16,100
The idea that this is something
anyone would take joy or
1501
01:38:16,100 --> 01:38:19,400
pleasure and is a silly.
Silly thing.
1502
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,800
Now I'm sure that there are
those and them, I would question
1503
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,700
ever having them around my kids.
But yeah.
1504
01:38:25,700 --> 01:38:27,900
So this isn't something that's
taken lightly.
1505
01:38:27,900 --> 01:38:31,400
And I could tell by the way, you
know, you look that that's
1506
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:32,900
something.
You take pretty seriously and
1507
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,100
weighs on you.
Yeah, absolutely.
1508
01:38:35,900 --> 01:38:39,100
So anyway, we usually have a
usually start.
1509
01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:42,900
Those kind of an all day thing,
will have people show up the
1510
01:38:42,907 --> 01:38:45,800
house around noon, and then
there's all kinds of
1511
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:50,200
preparations, cutting up
vegetables. and we have a big
1512
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:55,100
with the kitchen turns into a
big matzo making factory
1513
01:38:55,400 --> 01:39:02,100
basically mix up dough and roll
it out flat and Bake it or
1514
01:39:02,108 --> 01:39:03,900
cookie tin pans, or things like
that.
1515
01:39:03,900 --> 01:39:08,100
And so I mean we just cook
hundreds of pieces of matzah and
1516
01:39:08,500 --> 01:39:11,000
people are chopping up
vegetables and getting tables
1517
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:15,700
set, people are outside you know
skinning and gutting and
1518
01:39:15,700 --> 01:39:20,400
roasting the lamb and so it's
kind of a production and it's an
1519
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,900
all-day thing and it's It's
great.
1520
01:39:22,900 --> 01:39:26,700
So, that's what we do to
celebrate, basically.
1521
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,400
And then, of course, and then we
actually just eat matzah the
1522
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:37,100
whole week, you know, right.
So yeah, it's good.
1523
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:42,200
We are this year.
We're actually going to there's
1524
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:48,500
a lady in the ward, where I
live, who's has this enormous
1525
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:53,100
nativity set, Collection.
Hmm.
1526
01:39:53,800 --> 01:40:01,200
So on the evening of April 5th,
we're going to have the Seder
1527
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:05,600
and all of that and then the
morning of April 6th.
1528
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,100
We're going to go look at all
these neat.
1529
01:40:09,100 --> 01:40:11,800
She's going to set out a these
nativity sets for us to come.
1530
01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:15,100
Now, you look at, so that would
be really fun.
1531
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:19,200
That's awesome.
Well, dude, it's good stuff.
1532
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,300
Yeah, yeah, no.
I one other thing I will say is
1533
01:40:22,300 --> 01:40:30,200
that this first fruits, this
like I said, it's on, I
1534
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:35,800
subscribe to the Care Act idea,
which is also the sadducee idea,
1535
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,400
which is that it's supposed to
be on the Sunday during.
1536
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:40,700
Okay, leavened bread.
Okay.
1537
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:45,200
So actually, I just remembered
something else I want to
1538
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:46,900
mention.
This is a nice segue into it.
1539
01:40:47,100 --> 01:40:52,500
But this actually, this is this
is Easter right?
1540
01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:58,800
Easter is not always, but almost
always the Sunday during
1541
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:00,800
Passover.
The Feast of unleavened bread.
1542
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,200
Yeah, yeah.
If you swing, we're sorry, yes,
1543
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,300
too big to be precise to which
is, which is in common parlance
1544
01:41:06,300 --> 01:41:08,700
often called Passover week of
Passover.
1545
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:16,600
So that's fine. now, interesting
thing about that though, is the
1546
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,900
At the council.
I mean, this goes to, this goes
1547
01:41:21,900 --> 01:41:23,600
to the great apostasy here.
We talk about the great
1548
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,100
apostasy.
We're going straight to the
1549
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:29,700
next, ER, yeah, yeah.
So 325 Council in nicaea
1550
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:36,900
Constantine is presiding and one
of the big things that they
1551
01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:40,600
attempt to accomplish here.
Well, let me back up here.
1552
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,800
When, you know, when Mormons
talk about the great apostasy,
1553
01:41:44,300 --> 01:41:45,700
there's a couple of parts to it,
right?
1554
01:41:45,700 --> 01:41:49,100
One is, there's like physical.
Incubation.
1555
01:41:49,300 --> 01:41:54,100
And, you know, the apostles are
being killed off and, you know,
1556
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:56,700
maybe other other priesthood
leaders, right?
1557
01:41:56,700 --> 01:42:01,200
So there's this interruption in
the transmission of priesthood
1558
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,800
priesthood.
And then, the other thing that
1559
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:08,900
we often talk about is this this
corrupting influence of pagan,
1560
01:42:08,900 --> 01:42:14,000
Greek, Greek, Pagan, and
philosophical ideas, corrupting
1561
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:17,800
Doctrine, and things like that.
The thing that we don't talk
1562
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:22,500
about those, Is that there was
there was an intentional and
1563
01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:28,000
this happened at Nicea which was
the first the first Council as
1564
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:32,700
far as I know like the first
church Council, but one of their
1565
01:42:32,700 --> 01:42:38,400
goals was we got to figure out
how to get rid of all of this
1566
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:42,000
Israelite stuff.
That is encumbering the church
1567
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:46,800
and we want the church to be
non-israelite as possible.
1568
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:49,800
We want to have nothing.
Thing in common with those
1569
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,500
detestable Jews.
And so we're going to calculate
1570
01:42:53,500 --> 01:42:55,000
Easter a different.
We're going to we're not going
1571
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:58,000
to rely on the Jewish calendar
to calculate Eastern, although
1572
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,800
they basically came up with a
different way to calculate it.
1573
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,700
That ends up being equivalent
pretty close.
1574
01:43:03,900 --> 01:43:09,500
Yeah, but but yeah, there was
the Jew, any of the any Jewish
1575
01:43:09,500 --> 01:43:12,000
Bishops and there were still at
this time, they were still
1576
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:17,200
Jewish Bishops, they were all
excluded from the council.
1577
01:43:18,100 --> 01:43:24,800
And they made these decisions to
intentionally get rid of Jewish
1578
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,900
ideas.
And one of them was the, the
1579
01:43:26,900 --> 01:43:30,900
observance of Passover.
This was actually a big part of
1580
01:43:30,900 --> 01:43:36,600
the apostasy that eventually
became Catholicism, is we need
1581
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,900
to root out these.
There's these Christians are
1582
01:43:39,900 --> 01:43:44,900
still observing Passover and the
Feast of unleavened bread and we
1583
01:43:44,900 --> 01:43:46,700
do not want them to do that
anymore.
1584
01:43:48,500 --> 01:43:52,000
And you know, we're going to
we're going to celebrate Easter
1585
01:43:52,700 --> 01:43:56,500
and eventually, you know, this,
this turns into egg-laying
1586
01:43:56,500 --> 01:43:59,000
rabbits and you're celebrating
right.
1587
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,600
Resurrection.
Which is just so weird but but
1588
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:06,800
we'd rather have that and
anything to do with Exodus and
1589
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,700
right and the symbolism involved
there.
1590
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:16,300
And the there were kind of
holdouts, I think early
1591
01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:19,800
Christians who continue to sin.
Celebrate this up until about
1592
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:25,000
400 ad when the church is
finally able to stamp it out
1593
01:44:25,900 --> 01:44:28,400
from being practiced in
Christianity.
1594
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:34,100
So, so when I look at keeping
the these feasts and Passover in
1595
01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:36,000
particular, like I just consider
it.
1596
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:41,000
As part of the restoration and
this is like, pushing back like
1597
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:46,200
undoing the things that were
done as part of apostasy the
1598
01:44:46,208 --> 01:44:49,600
great apostasy.
So are we?
1599
01:44:49,700 --> 01:44:55,000
There's no that's awesome.
I had again, my good buddy whose
1600
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:59,000
dad was a rabbi.
He told me because I was really
1601
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:01,800
concerned, right?
I was thinking when I was first
1602
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,500
thinking about, you know, these
feasts and that sort of thing.
1603
01:45:04,500 --> 01:45:09,000
When I lived in Maryland, I was
always super nervous because I
1604
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:13,600
didn't want to, I wouldn't want
somebody creeping into the
1605
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,500
temple.
Who wasn't supposed to be there.
1606
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,600
Likewise I didn't want to be
that guy.
1607
01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:20,200
Creeping in on somebody else's
tradition, that shouldn't be
1608
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:25,500
there to my surprise, even
Joel's dad was like, no, we
1609
01:45:25,500 --> 01:45:29,400
welcome it.
He's like, can we join us?
1610
01:45:29,700 --> 01:45:36,000
Yeah, I mean, my first, my first
seder was was at his house homey
1611
01:45:36,300 --> 01:45:40,200
and, and I'm so glad I got to do
it and he explained it.
1612
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,200
He was like, no, no, he's like
if you're a Christian, if you
1613
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,600
profess to follow Christ.
Why wouldn't you do this?
1614
01:45:46,300 --> 01:45:49,000
He's like, okay.
Well, Oh, that's a very why
1615
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,700
wouldn't you do this?
That was Jesus is religion, was
1616
01:45:51,700 --> 01:45:53,100
it not?
Absolutely.
1617
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,900
And I was like, well, yeah, you
know you got a point.
1618
01:45:55,900 --> 01:46:00,500
So I think sometimes we feel
like, well, that's there's this
1619
01:46:00,500 --> 01:46:05,700
is ours and I think it's like
you were saying a hangover from
1620
01:46:06,500 --> 01:46:08,900
from from the apostasy.
Absolutely.
1621
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:13,100
Yeah.
And there's one more thing I
1622
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:19,400
want to bring up is that
Passover, Passover is a part of
1623
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:23,400
the restoration to not just in
not just keeping the Seder like
1624
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,100
I like is I mean we don't really
have evidence that Joe Smith,
1625
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:34,100
kept a Seder for example, right?
But but the imagery of Passover
1626
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:37,700
is embedded in the fabric of the
restoration.
1627
01:46:37,700 --> 01:46:40,600
So ancient lie.
We talked about Israel being
1628
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:45,900
born as a nation on Passover.
That That happened again.
1629
01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:50,400
That was Passover, is the day.
The church was re-established,
1630
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:59,700
April, 6th, 1830.
The April 6th 1830 was the 13th
1631
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:04,700
of the first month but they, the
meeting was into the evening, so
1632
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,600
it was on the 14th.
It was on Passover.
1633
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:13,500
Now, when the church was
re-established in, he's okay.
1634
01:47:13,900 --> 01:47:17,000
And then There's another
interesting thing that's part of
1635
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:24,800
the Seder and this is kind of a
mysterious thing, but when but
1636
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:28,000
you Mormons will appreciate the
symbolism here, is that there's
1637
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:32,000
always this place at the table
left for Elijah, right?
1638
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:38,700
Right.
And the it's interesting because
1639
01:47:38,700 --> 01:47:44,300
there's in are in the standard
works, there's one prophecy that
1640
01:47:44,300 --> 01:47:49,500
is Repeated in all of them and
it's only 11 prophecy and that
1641
01:47:49,500 --> 01:47:52,700
is the great.
And Dreadful day of the Lord,
1642
01:47:53,500 --> 01:47:58,700
when Elijah will come to turn
the hearts of the father's to
1643
01:47:58,700 --> 01:48:00,200
the children and the children to
their fathers.
1644
01:48:00,500 --> 01:48:02,900
That's something you li zhiting.
Like it's one of his missions
1645
01:48:02,900 --> 01:48:06,400
and that's repeated in the
Bible, the doctrine covenants,
1646
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,800
the pro great price and the Book
of Mormon whole have that
1647
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,800
process, right heated.
So you Mormons are look, I
1648
01:48:13,808 --> 01:48:17,600
appreciate that too, but that
symbolism and so, yeah, they'll
1649
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:22,300
They'll have a they'll have the
table set and the family will be
1650
01:48:22,300 --> 01:48:25,700
sitting around the table but
there will be a gap, right?
1651
01:48:26,300 --> 01:48:28,200
Where Elijah is place will be
set.
1652
01:48:28,700 --> 01:48:35,000
And you know a Mormon looking at
that might might think about
1653
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,400
ceiling.
I'm like, oh look if a lot when
1654
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:41,300
Elijah comes than that, actually
completes the family, right?
1655
01:48:42,900 --> 01:48:48,300
So Now that prophecy about the
Elijah coming that was film
1656
01:48:48,300 --> 01:48:49,800
incur fulfilled in Kirtland,
right?
1657
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:50,700
Yeah.
Yeah.
1658
01:48:50,700 --> 01:48:57,200
The the Old Testament doesn't
Doesn't have time associated
1659
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,200
with that.
But for some reason and I don't
1660
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:03,300
know the reasons for this but
for some reason that in the
1661
01:49:03,308 --> 01:49:06,400
Jewish mind has been associated
with Pat, they were looking for
1662
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:10,300
that to occur at Passover time
Feast of unleavened bread.
1663
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:17,100
And yes, you're right.
So, April 3rd, 18 was at 32.
1664
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:20,900
I don't remember.
I believe it was 32.
1665
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:23,600
Let's see, I can actually, I
could be wrong.
1666
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:29,100
Let me just look up real quick,
but anyway, yeah, right, the,
1667
01:49:29,700 --> 01:49:33,700
the dedication of the Kirtland
Temple.
1668
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:43,200
Elijah comes and That's good.
Hmm, oh gosh.
1669
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:49,600
Well it doesn't matter.
I'm just looking here through
1670
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:53,200
the Seder there's a couple other
things I want to mention that
1671
01:49:53,800 --> 01:50:01,700
are just kind of cool here.
It is. 1836 April 30 1836?
1672
01:50:03,900 --> 01:50:06,900
Okay another one.
Another big one is that the
1673
01:50:06,900 --> 01:50:11,300
Passover is When you when you're
slaughtering lamb, you're not
1674
01:50:11,300 --> 01:50:14,900
allowed to break any bones.
Hmm.
1675
01:50:15,100 --> 01:50:20,800
And Jesus fulfilled, this too,
because when he was crucified,
1676
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:27,600
he actually the the Roman
soldier came to break his legs,
1677
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:32,400
to make sure that it was done.
But decided to poke him with a
1678
01:50:32,407 --> 01:50:36,000
spear instead and, and he was
dead already.
1679
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:37,500
And so, I know bones were
broken.
1680
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:42,700
So this was fulfillment of that,
the Passover ritual as well.
1681
01:50:43,100 --> 01:50:47,500
So, Way amazing stuff.
So, yeah.
1682
01:50:47,500 --> 01:50:52,500
So we have those those other
fulfillments in as part of the
1683
01:50:52,508 --> 01:50:57,400
restoration, these the
establishment of the church, the
1684
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,400
birth of the Latter-day church
and the the visit of Elijah.
1685
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:04,000
They're so pretty cool stuff.
That's awesome.
1686
01:51:04,500 --> 01:51:09,200
So that book, the Haggadah, the
Haggadah is that available
1687
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,800
online somewhere.
You can get them online.
1688
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:17,100
This one is what this one is.
One that That my father put
1689
01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:20,300
together, okay?
He edited and compiled, this and
1690
01:51:20,300 --> 01:51:27,900
then and then I've kind of added
to it since and added some extra
1691
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,600
added recipes to the back and
stuff for the matzah and other
1692
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:36,200
things.
So, but if you, if you'd like a
1693
01:51:36,208 --> 01:51:37,700
copy, I'll leave this one with
you.
1694
01:51:38,500 --> 01:51:42,100
Oh, thank you!
I have Kevin Kraut Prince.
1695
01:51:42,100 --> 01:51:46,000
These for me.
Oh, does he if One wants a copy
1696
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:52,800
of my hagaddah, you just go to.
Old Pioneer Press in Santaquin
1697
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:57,200
Utah, and Kevin crowd.
Look, I've got some some haroset
1698
01:51:57,200 --> 01:52:00,500
on there that someone spilled.
It's all good, it's all good.
1699
01:52:01,100 --> 01:52:04,600
And ask ask if you can, if he'd
print out, a copy of Joshua,
1700
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:06,800
Erickson's nice, Passover,
seder.
1701
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,100
And you'll know exactly what
you're talking about.
1702
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:15,200
Yeah, dude, I'll tell you what
as we went through these I'm
1703
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:22,600
continually amazed at how many.
Episodes in the restoration
1704
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:27,000
historically, just continue to
land on these days over and over
1705
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:30,400
and over.
Is definitely using his calendar
1706
01:52:30,500 --> 01:52:31,600
still.
Yep.
1707
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:34,200
Absolutely.
Whether we whether we want to
1708
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,200
admit it or not whether we are
aware.
1709
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:37,400
Yep.
Yes, right.
1710
01:52:37,500 --> 01:52:42,000
And and when I think it also
speaks to this idea of there's
1711
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,600
some responsibility if you're
going to call yourself Israel.
1712
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:51,500
There are there are things that
are required of you and even if
1713
01:52:51,500 --> 01:52:55,700
you think that you don't want to
do those things.
1714
01:52:56,700 --> 01:52:59,500
If you're really committed,
you'll find yourself there.
1715
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,700
Yeah, whether you want to or
not.
1716
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:04,200
Yeah.
And that's just just kind of the
1717
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:09,300
way it is.
And Yeah, I'm just continually
1718
01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:13,900
amazed at the Precision at which
it's all ages.
1719
01:53:13,900 --> 01:53:18,900
All unfolded to stay in in
lockstep with them.
1720
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,100
So, in this was the last one of
these, right?
1721
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:24,200
They'll one more.
What weeks yet?
1722
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:25,300
Feast of Weeks.
Okay.
1723
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:28,900
Also write, as Shavuot also
known as Pentecost.
1724
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:31,400
Nice.
Nice.
1725
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:35,300
All right.
We miss anything, anything think
1726
01:53:35,300 --> 01:53:39,200
that's, there's much more that
we could talk about as far as
1727
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:41,400
details.
But this is, this is a good
1728
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:44,300
overview.
Awesome, all right, well dude,
1729
01:53:45,500 --> 01:53:48,600
as always I appreciate it.
Pleasure, bye everybody.
1730
01:54:02,500 --> 01:54:05,800
You're listening to the Mormon
Renegade podcast.
00:00:05,500 --> 00:00:08,800
On this episode, I have Joshua
Erickson back on to continue our
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series, on the Jewish calendar
and feast days.
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Again, I encourage everyone who
has not done.
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So to go back and listen to the
first five episodes of this
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series today.
Joshua, and I sit down and have
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a conversation about Passover.
We go through the story of
7
00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,000
Exodus.
Then we talked about how the
8
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celebration is kept today.
And finish up by talking about
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what we as Mormons can take away
from the events of Passover.
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You're listening to the Mormon
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Renegade podcast.
Dude, we're back again.
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Yeah, and I got a lot to talk
about today.
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This is a little heavier than
Purim.
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Yes, quite a bit heavier,
actually.
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Yeah, for him is very light and
fun and fanciful.
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Even and Passover is heavy
stuff.
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This is Angel of Death stuff,
Blood on the door stuff plagues
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and and and Redemption.
And all I had a buddy who was
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who's an Evangelical but also,
So a big fan of hard rock and
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heavy metal and he always said
he was like that episode from
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Egypt will Moses is there?
He's like that.
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Straight metal.
I'm like, that's probably not a
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bad way of putting it, right?
I mean plagues and everything
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else.
So I mean, the horror, the
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horror of the whole, the whole
whole scene, leading up to
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Passover, is just is horrendous.
Yeah, yeah.
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Well, and yeah, and here's the
thing, anytime you enslave the
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people, Going to go well for
you.
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Yeah.
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I guess I would say.
Amen to that.
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Yep.
So tyranny tyranny, always
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brings its its own reward.
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Yep.
So okay yeah so Passover is a
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big deal, not only for Judaism
but for Christianity obviously
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and Judaism and Christianity,
both kind of Point to various
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passover's as the foundation or
the beginning of their religion.
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Of course, Christianity looks at
the ancient Israelite Passover
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as a type and Shadow, in many
ways of the Passover that
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occurred with Jesus as the Lamb
of God, right?
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And so, it really is so much of
the Scriptures that the
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symbolism in the scriptures that
go back to or point back to to
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the Passover and The Exodus or I
suppose you could say the other
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way around that.
So much of the the occurrences
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that happened with the Passover
in Exodus actually point forward
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to gospel things.
And also even as do all the
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feasts point to Future realities
that are yet to be Yet to be
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fulfilled.
So you know, you can correct me
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if I'm wrong on this.
I'm used to be.
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Yeah, I'm used to being wrong to
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I always looked at Passover and
found it to be unique in the
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sense that it was both a
religious holiday, as well as
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something that I think we could
kind of, almost equate to Fourth
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of July on our end a little bit.
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No, this is The Birth of a
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This is Independence Day.
Yeah, in a real way, this is
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Independence Day for the nation.
In of Israel.
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Yeah, it's kind of a, yeah, The
Birth of a Nation.
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I don't know how else to put it
is the way to put it.
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Yeah, they see.
Is when Israel, as I mean
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Israel.
Israel is, of course, the name,
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the, the additional name given
to the new name, given to Jacob
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right after he wrestles with the
angel and And then he's got his,
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his family, his twelve sons, and
he's got at least one daughter
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that's mentioned and, you know,
they have children and stuff.
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But by the time, by the time,
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they go down into Egypt, that's
kind of a, it's kind of a proto
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pro donation, right?
Little, it's the seed of a
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Nation, but by the time they
leave Egypt there, many
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millions, strong.
And so it was miraculous on it.
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you know, an enormous scale and
and I think I think also the,
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the founders of this country
recognize that.
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I mean, our first seal, wasn't
the eagle with the arrows are
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fur.
Seal was Moses crossing the Red
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Sea with the children of Israel
and Pharaohs armies being
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drowned.
Yeah and I didn't stick so yeah,
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it was.
Yeah there there was this.
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Okay I'll give a spoiler.
You're going to want to show up
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to the Torah conference.
I'm talking a little bit about
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this one when you're there but
yeah it was it was very much The
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founder saw a lot that they
could equate to and whatever
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your views are on blacks in the
priesthood.
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I think, by now, we should all
agree slavery's, probably not a
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great thing, at least the
slavery that was practiced, you
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know, for the Africans during
during Antebellum Period, oh
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yeah, there's because it was,
it's not what it describes in
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the Bible, there's no
justification for that.
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And if you look, if you look at
the Bible, that was, that was
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indentured servitude with an end
date, right?
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There was an expiration date
there.
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This was something different and
I've often looked at the Civil
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War and thought, yeah, we
probably paid a price, we
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definitely did write that was
that there was a little bit of
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divine retribution there.
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Amen.
To that.
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So, okay, where to begin?
I guess.
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I mean Exodus is a beginning.
Passover is a beginning as we've
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been mentioning already.
So Exodus chapter 12.
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This is this is a new before
that in To this, we have the
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story of, you know, they're
being a new pharaoh who didn't
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know about Joseph and the
Egyptians are worried about this
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growing population of
Israelites.
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And you know, whether they're
how loyal they are to the
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Egyptian crown and Pharaoh says,
to start drowning the male
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children, right?
And of course we have the story
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of the the Valiant midwives,
right?
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Who lie to pharaoh and say oh we
we've tried to do your order but
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the The Midwives are the the
Hebrew women, their Lively, and
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they just give birth before we
show up.
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And and and so fair wasn't
pleased with that.
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But scripture says that God
blessed those midwives.
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Well, Anyway pharaoh, of course
decides that if we can't control
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their population and you will
continue to try to control their
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population, but we're also going
to enslave them in as a as a
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means of controlling the
Israelite population.
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And of course, then Moses comes
into the story and this is and
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he's Moses typifies Christ in so
many ways in this story.
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I mean, the first bit, we get
about, Moses is well, going back
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to the story of Jesus, right?
The we know the wise men come
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and Herod is not happy that
there's going to be a new King,
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right?
And so he sends soldiers to go
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and kill all the babies, of
course, Joseph and Mary.
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And Jesus, they flee to Egypt
for safety ironic.
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Yeah.
And so here here we have again
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actually A I would say Messiah,
type figure in Moses and he's
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going to.
He actually is going to take
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take the crown as essentially
from Pharaoh.
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Pharaoh doesn't know that yet.
But, but yeah, there's a wicked
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King who tries to kill the
babies to get rid of this
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promised child that the promised
child actually finds refuge in
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Egypt actually in Pharaoh's
house.
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Right is where Moses is raised
and at some point, Moses, he's
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raised as an Egyptian raised as
a prince, even, but he is out
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observing the Israelites in
their bondage.
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He sees in Egyptian taskmasters,
like seriously abusing this
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Israelite, man, and He secretly
or he thinks it secretly.
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He defends the Israelite, man,
and ends up killing the Egyptian
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and buries him in the sand and
hopes that no one will know
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about it, but people did find
out about it, somehow right.
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And Moses is afraid that word is
going to get out and we're does
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get out.
And so he flees and he ends up
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in Midian, you know, which is
Midian was one of Abraham.
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Children from Katara.
So he ends up in Midian ends up
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in the camp of Jethro who ends
up being his father in line and
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the midianites They have they
have next to next to their next
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to Jethro's, land is Mountain,
which they call the mountain of
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the lord.
It's just, which was Sinai or
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Horeb.
And we know the story.
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Moses sees this T's tending
sheep and he sees this Burning
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Bush was burning and not being
consumed.
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And this is obviously a curious
thing and he goes there to see
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what's going on.
And the Lord speaks to him
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through or from the bush, right
from the fire and gives him a
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mission.
And Moses is not real happy
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about that.
But God says you're the one.
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And, you know, I'll give you
your brother, Aaron is there?
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And he can help too.
So, there's so many things about
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Moses story that I'm going,
fascinating, right?
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And some of it, I can relate to
you although I'll never be as
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good. good as Moses, but this
idea of discovering your
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parentage, right?
Discovering your heritage, and
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then having that Heritage via
odds, with the worldly powers of
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the time.
I think that's something we can
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all relate to, at this point,
right?
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As we discovered, we're of the
family of God.
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There's a reason we don't fit in
with the rest of society.
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Also, I, you know, I remember
when I first became a Mormon,
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when I joined the LDS church, I
had to leave my In town because
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I was trying to quit drinking
and I was at that point where
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the party found me, I didn't
have to go look for it anymore.
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Yeah.
And so I had to remove myself
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and I remove myself to an
itty-bitty town about 45 minutes
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away where no one knew me or as
out in the country.
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And so there's some parallels
there, right?
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That's what you described.
There is, is the Passover story,
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right?
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In in microcosm, yeah.
Yeah.
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Year Are removed and so there
was a lot of Egypt.
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Yeah, there was a lot of Moses
story that that I could identify
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with and I've often thought and
we'll get to it in a minute when
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he has to go back and talk to
Pharaoh, must have been a
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strange reunions and I can
sympathize a little bit with
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that cuz I'll ran into guys from
time to time when I'm back in
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Idaho that I screwed around
with, and it's a little awkward,
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right?
Because, you know, they're like
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you want to go grab one and I'm
like, no, no.
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I'm I'm not much of a partaker
anymore and I remember one guy
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goes, would you become a Mormon?
Huh?
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I'm like.
Yep, that's hilarious.
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So yeah, you can only imagine
what it must have been like, for
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Moses to go through all of this
to be so high and be brought
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low.
I think, I think the way Cecil
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DeMille, painted it when when
Charlton Heston was crossing the
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desert where, you know, it
turns, you know, men in the
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Profit sort of a thing.
Yeah.
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There's some, there's some good
movies I've been made.
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Yeah, yeah.
I mean, this is actually a this
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is a type of Christ as well.
I mean, really Moses
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condescends.
Yeah, from Egyptian royalty to
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identifying himself with the
slaves.
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Yeah, I mean Hebrew.
He says yeah, he's yeah, I think
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there's something that we can
all take away from Moses story.
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There's something there.
It's such an intrical story of
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just not Just not the nation of
Israel, not just the Jewish
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people not just Mormons or
anybody else.
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I think there's something very
intrinsic there.
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Yeah.
That that we can take from.
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I mean that's why it's I mean,
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you know, the Bible is the
oldest, the oldest book in the
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world that still read, you know,
then the most widely read
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ancient book and there's a
reason for that.
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Yeah, these stories are
everyone's story, right?
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And they just and the stories
keep unfolding generation after
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generation.
Yeah, and always will because
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there's just truth there that
has to do with man's struggle.
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Yeah.
For freedom.
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And for salvation.
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And it's made an impression to
the point that it's in the
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psyche of every human, I think.
Yeah, right.
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Yeah, I had a good friend who
was an atheist named Jason and
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he once said, so why doesn't God
continue to talk out of burning
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bushes?
I said, because if anyone who
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was religious, saw burning bush,
we all know we're going the
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other direction because nothing
It's coming out the bat so
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amazing.
Well we won't go over too much
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of the other the story, you
know.
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But of course you know, Moses
asks for pharaoh to let them go
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Vera, says no, then there's
plague and we just go back and
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forth Affair saying, okay, okay
call it off and then another
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plague comes along right?
10 of them culminating in the
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final The final two plagues, our
darkness and then death, the
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slaying of the firstborns.
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And this brings us to Exodus
chapter 12, which is so all that
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other stuff was the first part
of Exodus.
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But in Exodus chapter 12, I'll
read here.
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The Lord spake unto Moses and
Aaron in the land of Egypt
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saying this month shall be unto
you the beginning of months.
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It shall be to you the first
month of the year to you.
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So so yeah, this is really a
beginning, this not only of
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their calendar which it was this
is, of course, passover's in the
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spring and it actually used to
be much more widespread this
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idea of New Year's being in the
spring, are a Roman Calendar has
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switched it to Winter January
but it used to be in the spring
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and this is this is why April
1st is April, April Fool's Day.
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Because there was a propaganda
propaganda.
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What's the word I'm looking for?
Push to try to get people to
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stop celebrating New Year in the
spring?
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Really?
Yeah and if you did then you
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were called faithful fool.
So really?
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I didn't know that.
That's fascinating.
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Yeah.
So anyway so yeah this is going
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to be the beginning.
Not only of the the calendar but
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also the Inning of the nation.
Like we, like we mentioned
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already.
Now, this goes actually
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essentially goes way way back
before that because if you go to
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Exodus 12, 43, 40 and 41.
Now, this is this is after
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they're like the day that
they're leaving.
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Which was, by the way, on the
15th of the month.
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So I'll back up just a little.
So beginning of chapter 12, he
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says, this is going to be the
beginning of the month.
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This is basically going to be
the new year here.
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So the first day of the first
month is going to be the new
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year.
And then later on, we'll talk
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about it.
A little more on the tenth day
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of this month.
They were supposed to pick out
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Lamb, excuse me, or goat to be
the Passover and then, and then
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the 15th starting on the 15th
and for seven days they're going
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to have the Feast of unleavened
bread.
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So, and this, this timing of the
first month actually is, there's
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an interesting mirror with the
seventh month.
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We talked about some of the
festival's of the seventh month,
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but on the seventh month, on the
1st of the month is trumpets,
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And then, on the 10th is Yom
Kippur and then on the 15th for
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seven days is the Feast of
Tabernacles.
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So, in the first month, we have
new year on the 10th, we select
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the Lamb on the 15th.
And for a week, we have Festival
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of unleavened bread.
And then in the 7th year month,
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we have the first is Feast of
trumpets or but also called Rosh
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Hashanah.
So the head of the year.
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It's a kind of a new year as
well.
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And Then we have the day of
atonement on the 10th and then
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Tabernacles.
And there's, there's this kind
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of symmetry between the first
and the seventh month for good
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reasons, there's actually a real
connection between between
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those.
So, of course, Passover and a is
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when we left Egypt.
But but the that's like when the
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when Redemption was completed
but the Redemption began.
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This is a little bit of Jewish
tradition.
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The Redemption began in the
seventh month on Rosh Hashanah
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where the Feast of trumpets
that's like, that's when the
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plagues began.
So, so the Jersey is like, for
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six months.
Often, you know, there'd be a
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few days or weeks of plague and
then there would be a little
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break.
And then another, you know, days
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or weeks of plague, you know,
for ten plagues.
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And then by the time it comes to
Passover, which is the 14th and
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then 15 is the day of unleavened
bread.
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The first day of unleavened
bread, then that's when our
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Redemption is complete and we
actually have freedom.
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So okay, all that though, is to
say that this, this wasn't
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actually, this is a beginning,
but the story of Passover
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actually begins centuries before
that.
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So in chapter 12, verse 40,
says, now the sojourning of the
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children of Israel who dwelled
in Egypt.
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And there's actually a
corruption in the text there.
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It should say, who dwelt in,
Canaan and Egypt.
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That's what the the Septuagint,
and some older versions.
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And in, in the New Testament
talks about that too.
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So anyway, sojourning of the
children of Israel who dwelt in
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Canaan and Egypt was 430 years
and it came to pass at the end
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of the 430 years.
And even the selfsame day, it
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came to pass.
That all the hosts of the Lord,
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went out from the land of Egypt.
Mmm, so hosts of the Lord, this
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is, of course, like the Hebrew,
there is the armies of the Lord.
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So this is the Lord's army is
right.
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So, so ought to the day 430
years ago to the day.
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Now, what is the day?
They're talking about even the
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selfsame day, that is the day.
That the Lord commanded Abraham
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to go to Canaan.
And where the God said, I will
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give you this land.
So that's, you know, that goes
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that goes back to Genesis.
Yeah.
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Well, Okay, so Genesis 12.
Verse 1.
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Now Jehovah had said unto
Abraham, get the out of thy
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country and from thy Kindred,
and from thy, Father's House
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unto a land that I will show
thee and I will make of thee a
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great nation, and I will bless
thee, and make thy name, great.
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And thou shalt be a blessing and
I will bless them that bless
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thee and curse them that curse
thee and in thee, shall all the
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families of the earth be
blessed.
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Okay, so there it is and and
that that promise was repeated
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to Abraham a few times.
But it's interesting because the
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story of Abraham is actually a
microcosm of the Passover again
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because he Abraham starts out in
Canaan.
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And where does Israel start?
They start out in Canaan as well
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and then at some Point Abraham
goes to Egypt and says the
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problem was, there was a famine,
right?
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The famine, so Abraham goes to
Egypt and he stays there for a
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little bit and eventually,
there's that, there's that
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episode with Pharaoh wanting his
wife, right?
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And he ends up, Abraham, Abraham
ends up rich, because of that
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mess up there and have a little
white lie, that was told She's
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my sister and then Abraham
leaves and goes back to Canaan.
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Okay.
And this is kind of the story of
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Israel as well, right?
Jacob, and his twelve sons are
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in Canaan.
There's a famine.
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They go down to Egypt and
they're there for a little
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while, and eventually they come
out with great riches.
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Yeah, and go back to eventually
go back to Canaan.
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And and the Israelites when they
go back to Canaan, then they
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drive out the inhabitants.
Now the story for Abraham is he
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goes down, there's a famine, he
goes to Egypt, comes out with
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great riches back and then he
drives out some of the
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inhabitants to he has Wars with.
Yep.
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Some of the, the kings around
Sodom and Gomorrah.
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And then of course, Sodom and
Gomorrah are and the other
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cities of the plain are
Seriously destroyed.
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But there's this this cleansing
of the land for Abraham's sake.
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Well, you could say for
Abraham's sake.
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So there's this, this mirror
there between the father, whose
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Abraham and his his posterity,
which Israel, you know, the the
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other thing that I find
fascinating for both Moses and
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Abraham.
Is this idea of get out of the
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country.
Leave, I'm chopping you off to
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do something different.
Yeah.
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What you're in now is corrupt,
you need to be removed if you
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seek righteousness.
And I think that there is
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something there that, that, that
I think we all have to wrestle
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with, which is looking at her
current circumstance, and go, is
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it good?
Or is it bad?
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Well, if it's bad, if it's
corrupt, And you got to, you got
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to leave, right?
And and I find that's corrupt in
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and irreparable and irreparable.
It's time to leave.
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That's right, right.
It's time to pack up and move
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and to me that is does something
that takes strength on the part
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of the person, I understand
God's commanding it.
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But you're not going to get that
out of somebody who's just super
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who's just week or or think for
themselves or something like
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that, takes a little bit of Guts
right, for lack of a better
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term.
I remember being 20 for having
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four kids the night before I
leave for Maryland.
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I'm laying in my house, a nice
house, comfortable house and
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Western Idaho, looking up, the
ceiling with everything packed
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up thinking.
What the hell am I doing?
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I know crazy, right?
And so I think there's something
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here where the Lord is saying,
even if it's not a physical
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move, maybe it's a spiritual.
Maybe the, the current system,
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you know, you're in or the
current system, you have a
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spouse or the current system you
have developed for yourself.
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Isn't working, doesn't seem good
is irreparable.
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It's time to move.
Yeah, yeah, especially when
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yeah.
And you'll know that to right?
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Yep.
Oh, he makes it.
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He makes it very clear and it's
it's damaging to your soul.
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Yep.
To know.
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That you are in a bad place and
doing the wrong things and to do
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it anyway.
Yep.
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Yep.
Because I think we all have that
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little bit of Light of Christ in
this that calls to us and says
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yeah you better go this is not
the place for you.
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I reminded of the kind of the
contrast between Abram and his
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father.
Terah, right?
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Tara.
I mean there's not a lot in
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Genesis about Tara but in some
of the midrash stories
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extra-biblical Or is Tara, is an
idolater.
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There's my favorite story is
Abrams, you know a young man and
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he's trying to figure out he
wants.
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He wants to be God's friend, he
wants to know, God, he wants to
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serve God.
He wants to find out who the
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real God is and serve the Living
God and his father, Terah has a
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room full of idols and At some
point he comes to realize that
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like, these are, these are all
just man-made things, these are
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made by human hands, so this
definitely can't.
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These definitely can't be gods.
And so he he decides he's going
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to just chop up all the idols in
his father's little Idol room,
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whatever that's called.
And he takes a hatchet to all
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the idols.
There's just like I don't know
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dozens and dozens of them chops
them all up and then except for
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except for the biggest one.
And he like puts the acts in the
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biggest Idols hands.
And Tara comes home and he's
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like, goes, you know, goes to
pray or whatever I do, make his
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offering him.
Everything is just in splinters
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you know all the all these Idols
are just in splinters and
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shattered Stone and whatever and
Abraham or Abram.
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What's going on?
What you know what's the meaning
480
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:19,900
of this and Abram says well I
you know, I brought in food To
481
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:24,700
offer to your idols.
And when I, when I laid the
482
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:30,500
plate of food down, all of the
little gods, they like start to
483
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:34,700
reach out to grab it before.
The big God was able to take the
484
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:38,500
food and he got mad and he
chopped up all the other ones
485
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:40,800
and Tears.
Like that's ridiculous.
486
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,600
Course he can't do that.
He's just he's just he's just
487
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,700
he's just wood or stone or
whatever and and earring says
488
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,400
well then why are why are we
worried?
489
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,900
We were Worshipping these, what
are we doing?
490
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,000
But but Tara was no Tara was and
I'm a servant of nimrod.
491
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,700
Yeah.
Yeah.
492
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,600
He was at part of nimrods
kingdom and just going along
493
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,700
with With the society and the
government and the religion of
494
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:06,600
his time and was a coward,
really.
495
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:12,000
And knew that this was not
right, but just kept his head
496
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,500
down, you know, and did what was
expected and didn't rock the
497
00:32:15,508 --> 00:32:16,400
boat.
So to speak.
498
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:20,600
Well, and I think this speaks to
where we get ourselves how we
499
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,500
get ourselves into trouble,
right?
500
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:24,900
As I think that it's one of
those things where it's like,
501
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:26,600
you think about leaving a
society.
502
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,900
So to speak or in your like,
well, gosh, I Got my job and
503
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:37,300
it's a cushy job and I'm paid
well and you got this house and
504
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:40,300
if I'm if I'm not making Idols,
what am I gonna do?
505
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,900
Right?
And so I'm good at it.
506
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:46,900
Yeah and so I think, I think
this is one of those things
507
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:50,000
where it really points to us.
You better stand on principle at
508
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,500
some point because if you have
to make justifications for well,
509
00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:59,300
Lord, you didn't expect me to
like just leave all that.
510
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:02,900
Did you get?
Well, yeah, he kind of does kind
511
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:09,200
of does kind of does, so he gets
to the point where there's going
512
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,400
to be the final plague, the the
death of the firstborn.
513
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:20,500
And so Jehovah tells Moses, this
is what we're going to do, this
514
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:26,500
is going to be, this is going to
be the destruction of Egypt and
515
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:30,300
the Redemption of Israel and
everyone anyone who wants to be
516
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:33,500
Part of Israel to.
And that, that was not, by the
517
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:38,300
way, limited to the literal
descendants of Jacob only.
518
00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:42,500
But when, when Israel left it
actually specifically, says that
519
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:45,200
there was a mixed multitude of
people.
520
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,300
Hmm.
Gentiles Galore who who came
521
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:55,000
along who were converted to the
worship of the Living God, you
522
00:33:55,008 --> 00:33:57,400
know, by all the things that
they had seen no doubt.
523
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:02,900
But God said basically, Anyone
who anyone who wants to survive
524
00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:06,000
this last plague.
This is what you do.
525
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,500
You take your lamb, choose it on
the 10th day on the 14th day.
526
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:15,900
Everyone together is going to
kill the Passover, by the way
527
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:20,500
Passover, it's just to get a
little terminology here.
528
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:24,400
A lot of times in our everyday
speech, when we're talking about
529
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,100
Passover we get the term
Passover confused with the Feast
530
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:30,400
of unleavened bread and
sometimes we'll say that.
531
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,100
Silver and the Feast of
unleavened bread are the same
532
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:37,100
thing.
There are actually two
533
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,800
different, but related things,
the Feast of unleavened bread is
534
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,699
the thing that happens for seven
days where they eat matzo only,
535
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:51,699
which is the unleavened bread
Passover is also not technically
536
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:57,400
not a day, Passover is the Lamb.
Okay?
537
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:00,900
And so when you read the
scripture that says Kill the
538
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:06,000
Passover on the 14th day.
So the Passover is the animal.
539
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,500
That's the name of the animal
that is killed on the 14th and
540
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:14,100
then is eaten with unleavened
bread and bitter herbs on the
541
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:16,000
evening of the 15th.
Right?
542
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:20,000
As as Nightfall comes after the
14th, then everyone's supposed
543
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,200
to be inside the blood is put on
the doorpost.
544
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,700
Right?
And there's just the the
545
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:31,800
symbolism is so rich with the
Lamb of God and, you know,
546
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,700
applying the blood to the door
of the house and basically
547
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:41,500
salvation is inside the house.
That's like you through through
548
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:44,100
the blood that you have to go
enter through the door.
549
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:49,800
You have to enter through the
blood of the Lamb to be in in
550
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,700
the house of Israel,
essentially, right over the
551
00:35:51,707 --> 00:35:54,700
houses of his right in order to
be spared.
552
00:35:56,300 --> 00:36:01,200
So the angel death comes and
says there's you know there's
553
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,400
not a there's not a house that
isn't affected because there's
554
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:08,600
firstborns all over the place,
right?
555
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:21,100
And so, So again, I mean, I want
to kind of give you the broad
556
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:27,300
overview, I guess here.
They finally Pharaoh says, you
557
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:30,400
have to leave, like, I've been
wanting to keep you but you have
558
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,900
to leave actually.
So they gather bother other
559
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:34,700
people.
All their flocks, they
560
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:39,800
scriptures say to borrow gold
and jewels from their Egyptian,
561
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,200
neighbors, their Egyptian,
neighbors are happy to give them
562
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:47,600
gold and jewels and treasure.
I mean in In reality.
563
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,300
It's not of course Israel leaves
with all this stuff.
564
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:52,900
I would not call that theft
though.
565
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:58,500
I think that's just back payment
for all of the years of slavery,
566
00:36:58,500 --> 00:36:59,100
right?
Yeah.
567
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:03,100
So anyway, they leave with all
of that and then and then
568
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:07,500
Pharaoh, hardened his heart
again, right?
569
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:13,900
And changes his mind and gets
assembles what few chariots he
570
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:17,100
has left because I mean, the
animals have been plagued.
571
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:22,000
As well but gathers up what
chariots he can and chases him
572
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,800
down.
This is a, they Israelites have
573
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,700
had a few days, Head Start and
they there at the Red Sea,
574
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,800
right?
And Pharaoh meets them there.
575
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,500
And of course, the Army is held
back by the pillar of fire until
576
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:40,000
the sea splits, the Red Sea
splits, and they go across and
577
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,400
this.
So the on the first day of
578
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,900
unleavened bread is when they
actually leave Egypt, But then
579
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:52,700
Pharaoh chases them and then on
the seventh day of unleavened
580
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:59,700
bread, which if you include
Passover, which is kind of, you
581
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:02,900
know, the it's Passover like the
day to prepare for the Feast of
582
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:06,200
unleavened bread.
So it's the eighth day since
583
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,500
Passover, and then that's when
they go through the Red Sea.
584
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,700
So, that's on the and, you know,
the scriptures say that the
585
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:17,500
first and last day of unleavened
bread are special, Sabbath's
586
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:22,600
Where we there's supposed to be
a holy convocation, says, or a
587
00:38:22,607 --> 00:38:28,100
solemn assembly.
And so on that, on that seventh
588
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:32,900
day is when they passed through
the Red Sea and the armies of
589
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:36,600
fairer destroyed.
And this goes, I was going to
590
00:38:36,607 --> 00:38:38,700
point.
I mean, this is there's so many
591
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:43,400
symbolic things, but one of them
that is often kind of Forgotten
592
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,100
is the fact that like the
Egyptians represent something
593
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,100
and the Egyptians really, they
represent the people in your
594
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:56,200
life who To keep you in Egypt,
right?
595
00:38:56,300 --> 00:39:01,500
And you mentioned this area,
like when you try to leave,
596
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:04,600
there will be, there will be
people who want to pull, you
597
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,000
back into those old habits.
Yep.
598
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,200
Into that bondage of whatever
sort it is, you know, spiritual
599
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,200
or, you know, bondage or
addictions, or bad
600
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,500
relationships, our sins of all
sorts.
601
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,200
But you know, that's that's a
real part of the story too.
602
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,300
So you know there's a lot of
symbolism just in that little
603
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:31,800
bit we went through or things
that we can take away obviously
604
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,700
you know the blood of the Lamb
is a big one but there's little
605
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:41,300
ones to that pop out at you when
you talk about having, you know
606
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:47,400
killing the Lambs, these are
slaves, okay, that are there the
607
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:53,100
the Israelites that time.
They're huddled together close.
608
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,100
We know that because of some
things you know oral tradition
609
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,800
what not the that it wasn't like
the slaves were allowed to
610
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,000
spread out.
They want you know the Egyptians
611
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,300
wanted them in one place so they
could have their eye on Goshen
612
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:12,600
was a huge one.
They don't have room for
613
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,900
livestock.
So if they have a lamb that
614
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:22,500
lamb, it's precious.
It's almost a pet now, I want, I
615
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:26,300
want to paint this picture
because the Lord's trying to
616
00:40:26,308 --> 00:40:30,300
teach something here.
This is an animal that your kids
617
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:34,200
have played with this is an
animal that has probably become
618
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,900
kind of like a dog, right?
I love my dog.
619
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:40,700
When all when everything else is
down, my dog is always there.
620
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:44,400
Right, always happy to see me,
right?
621
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,400
And then you're going to kill
that lamb.
622
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,500
Yeah.
You're going to see your father
623
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:51,300
kill.
That way.
624
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:54,800
I had to put a dog down just
over a year ago that we had for
625
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,400
13 years about you bawled like a
baby.
626
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,000
I bawled like a little girl.
I have no other way to say it.
627
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,000
I that tore me up worse than I
thought it would now you it's
628
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,900
surprising.
It is surprised you're faced
629
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:08,300
with that.
Yeah.
630
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:09,900
Yeah.
And motion involved.
631
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:12,500
Yeah.
And now all the sudden it takes
632
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:16,600
on a different feel when you
realized These people had that
633
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,100
animal that animal was was kind
of a part of the family at that
634
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:22,900
point.
And then to watch.
635
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:27,400
Your father, or maybe you have
to go do it.
636
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,700
There's some symbolism there
likewise with with the gold and
637
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:35,300
the silver, and The Jewels are
taken out of Egypt.
638
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,500
I think we can draw from that.
This idea of there's things that
639
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:45,300
we can take out of the world
that aren't inherently evil, and
640
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,400
then use them for the good use.
Yeah.
641
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:54,100
Now the same gold that was used
to, that was taken from the
642
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,800
Options.
I shouldn't say taken, but
643
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,500
because from oral tradition that
I've read and I could be wrong,
644
00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:02,100
Joshua, the Egyptians are almost
thrown in Adam right now, take
645
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,600
it and go get you to get, get
out, you know, here's all your
646
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,400
goals, whatever you need, just
go.
647
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,200
So they're throwing it out that
same gold.
648
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:15,800
Can be used to put the trim
around the Tabernacle.
649
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,200
Yep.
On the Ark of the Covenant and
650
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,000
it can also be used to make a
golden calf.
651
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,900
That's right.
That's good.
652
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,600
So there's some symbolism there.
The other is Is later on in the
653
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,600
in the story of the Israelites
when they get to Canaan and they
654
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,000
got to go to war and I never
thought about this to my buddy
655
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,300
bride up.
He's like where do you think
656
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:36,800
they got the weapons for war?
And I'm like, I don't know.
657
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,800
He's like, they were picking him
up off the seashore from the
658
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,000
Egyptians washing up.
Yeah, I've got, that may be so I
659
00:42:44,008 --> 00:42:47,700
like that.
And he's so there the symbolism
660
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,600
here is Rich and deep and
there's so much we can take away
661
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,200
from this.
If we spend some time really
662
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,900
reading the story.
And not just reading it but
663
00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:58,400
immersing ourselves in it and
thinking about it.
664
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:04,100
Yeah, yeah, beautiful stuff.
I mean, the story of Passover in
665
00:43:04,107 --> 00:43:10,600
The Exodus just has so many
layers and they just pile up on
666
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,400
top of one another.
It's almost hard to like we're
667
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,200
not we're just going to scratch
the surface.
668
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,400
You have this little meeting
here.
669
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:20,400
Yep.
So I do want to now we've kind
670
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,800
of laid the groundwork and and
you know most people are kind of
671
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,800
familiar.
With the, I think the basics of
672
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,100
the story but thanks Charlton,
Heston.
673
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:39,100
I know, I think Mormons can have
kind of a special appreciation
674
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:45,300
of the symbolic, meaning of this
story because of our kind of
675
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:51,300
view of the Plan of Salvation.
So I'm gonna, I'm going to lay
676
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,900
this out, just in brief but now
there's all Kinds of details
677
00:43:54,900 --> 00:44:01,100
that we could pick out there.
So The story as I mentioned,
678
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:03,200
kind of you starts out with
Abraham.
679
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:06,600
And he is the father of the
faithful.
680
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,200
That's more of a Rams names.
And and then he has a son, and
681
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,500
he has a son so it's Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob.
682
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:17,600
And these are the three
Patriarchs, okay?
683
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:24,500
And and Jacob, Jacob actually
becomes the people of Israel,
684
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:29,700
okay?
So then then when we're talking
685
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:35,400
about the, the Mormon idea of
the plant, Salvation, it kind of
686
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:42,000
it all starts with these three
starts with our, father starts
687
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,500
with Father Son and Holy Ghost.
Okay.
688
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:49,400
And and of course, the middle
one is the one that's
689
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,400
sacrificed.
Right.
690
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:52,400
That's right with Abraham, Isaac
and Jacob.
691
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,300
That's that is the case as well.
And also in this is a, you know,
692
00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:01,200
kind of a uniquely Mormon thing.
Is that the story story of The
693
00:45:01,207 --> 00:45:04,100
Plan of Salvation doesn't start
on Earth it actually starts It's
694
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,800
in heaven.
Mmkay.
695
00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:12,900
So by the story of Israel starts
in Canaan, which is the promised
696
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:16,300
land, which is symbolic of
heaven, right?
697
00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:18,300
Okay.
And then so we all start in
698
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:21,100
Israel starts in the promised
land.
699
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:26,200
And then they go down to Egypt,
which is the world, right?
700
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,400
And everything's good at first
light and when we come to the
701
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Earth, everything is good at
first because we're innocent and
702
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,100
we're not accountable.
But at some point Wait, slave.
703
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:38,500
No sin enters in.
Right?
704
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:40,400
The, the bondage of sin, I will
say.
705
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:45,600
And then there's all the all
that goes along with that, and
706
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:50,600
and then that eventually,
there's a savior provided.
707
00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:56,400
And then on, you know, we, you
know, there's a savior provided
708
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,900
in the Passover story.
That was the lamb, okay?
709
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,600
We Leave the World Behind, we
leave the Egyptians behind, they
710
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,800
don't.
Want us to leave.
711
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:10,000
They want to keep us in sin.
We come to, you know, but we but
712
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,800
we put our faith in the savior
in the lamb and then we come to
713
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,500
this point where we've had, we
have faith.
714
00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:25,000
So we we put the blood on our
house and we repent, you know we
715
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,700
like we're not going to build up
Egypt anymore.
716
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,100
We're going to do what God wants
us to do.
717
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:33,200
That's repentance, right, okay?
And we're going to go out into
718
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,900
the wilderness.
Earnest and then that prepares
719
00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:40,400
us for baptism and that is the
that is the Red Sea, right?
720
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,700
Israel.
The entire as a nation as a
721
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,700
witch in the scriptures is often
referred to as a as a person
722
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:52,400
like Israel as a body, right is
sometimes referred to as God's
723
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,800
son, sometimes referred to as
God's servant sometimes as God's
724
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,400
wife.
I just depending on the metaphor
725
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,500
that's being used but but as a
corporate body, we go underneath
726
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,600
the water, right?
And this is on the, on the
727
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:13,800
eighth day to, hmm, right?
So the number eight is is
728
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,900
connected to the baptism, right?
Okay.
729
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,900
In lots of stories, 8 Dare die,
barges and eight people on NOAA
730
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:28,600
ship and and so on.
So we go under the, we go into
731
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,200
the water and then there's a
pillar of fire that guides Us
732
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,400
in.
This is the Holy Ghost Train,
733
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:36,700
and we go out into the
Wilderness and, and there's a
734
00:47:36,707 --> 00:47:41,500
period of purification, right?
So after after we are, baptized
735
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:45,200
the scriptures would refer to
this, as like justification.
736
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,400
But then there's a period of
sanctification where we become
737
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,500
holy, now, in the story of
Israel, it's the the old
738
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:56,700
generation dying off bit by bit
and being replaced by the The
739
00:47:56,707 --> 00:48:02,300
new generation who then is
finally worthy to enter Heaven.
740
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:09,200
Again, enter the promised land
and so there's so there's this
741
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:13,300
this cool thing right?
Where we start in heaven, we
742
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:17,700
descend to Earth, go through all
these trials and plagues and and
743
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:20,500
eventually escaped and there's
baptism and then there's all
744
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:23,000
this sanctification and then
ultimately we want we end up
745
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,200
back in the same place where we
began and the other cool thing
746
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,100
about it.
Is that I mentioned this earlier
747
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:35,400
is that Abraham who is symbolic
of the Father Here, Right
748
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,600
earlier in the story, he
actually did all that stuff
749
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,800
first before, right?
Abraham, does this stuff?
750
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,500
Yeah.
Starts out in, Canaan goes down
751
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:47,900
to Egypt, and returns to Canaan
and goes through all the
752
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:52,100
struggles and things, and then
his descendants make the same
753
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:55,600
new Trace in, Trace his
footsteps.
754
00:48:56,700 --> 00:49:01,200
So to speak.
So, there's a lot of, there's a
755
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,600
lot of details that could be
pulled out there.
756
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,600
Yeah.
And what I find funny is that
757
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:10,000
this story continues to cycle
through in Time After Time,
758
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:13,100
right?
You can see it in this story
759
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:17,800
that we're talking about.
You can see it in in the the
760
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,800
colonists that were here for
Religious Freedom, right?
761
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,800
We're going to break away, we're
going to go do something
762
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,800
different and then you see it
again with with You know, in
763
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,800
three or four generations after
them where we're breaking from
764
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,700
England and then let's make it
really Mormon.
765
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,900
Now Brigham's, going to take the
Saints out of the United States
766
00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:42,400
and break away again, Mormon
Moses, right?
767
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,900
Exactly.
And so this story can I would
768
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:48,900
imagine that we're going to see
another episode of this only.
769
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:50,800
Maybe not so physical.
Right?
770
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,200
Maybe now it's a matter of
spiritually, coming out of
771
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,600
Egypt.
Oh yeah, right.
772
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,400
Whatever your Egyptian.
Chipped is there's this idea now
773
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,200
of coming out of it, maybe it's
shutting off the social media.
774
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:10,400
Maybe it's, you know, just
finding a way to leave Egypt or
775
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:20,800
Babylon behind you and go
forward. yeah, I mean yeah, I
776
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:23,500
have a lot of thoughts going
through my mind but yeah it's
777
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:30,600
part of it is Part of it is the
the truth of knowing what it is
778
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,000
you're supporting.
I mean, in one sense.
779
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,300
They were slaves.
Yes.
780
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,500
Okay.
And so I don't know how much,
781
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,900
you know, we can't.
We can't necessarily blame
782
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:49,300
individual Israelites for that,
but in another sense like we
783
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:51,900
sell ourselves.
Yeah, into slavery, right?
784
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:53,300
Yeah.
It's like okay.
785
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:56,200
We'll go along with that.
And and before, you know, it,
786
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,600
you're you're actually building
up Egypt.
787
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,200
Yes, yeah.
And, and I think part of the
788
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,500
plagues part of the plagues is
to get pharaohs attention, but
789
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:12,000
part of it's probably to get the
Attention to be like hey you see
790
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,300
this beautiful Nile near that
you they probably made proud.
791
00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:19,600
Maybe they'll of the Nile.
They took pride in this awesome
792
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,500
river.
That was well it's that was in
793
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:23,800
their country at least The Giver
of Life.
794
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,900
Yeah.
Through there right.
795
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:28,500
I mean you're probably drawn
your water from there and Wells
796
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:30,700
associated with it.
Here it is.
797
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:32,100
Yeah I'm going to turn it to
blood.
798
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,500
All the fish are going to die.
It's going to stink and frogs
799
00:51:35,500 --> 00:51:39,600
are going to come out and all
the things that Some point all
800
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,000
the things that you thought,
maybe we were kind of cool or
801
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,700
nice about Egypt and they did
think, Egypt was nice, they
802
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:48,900
complain to Moses over and over.
Let's go back.
803
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:54,600
You know, in Egypt, we had
cucumbers and leeks to eat, you
804
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,900
know, and at least, at least we
were, at least, at least the
805
00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:04,300
Egyptians fed us.
It's like, wow, you would you
806
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:05,600
want?
I mean, it's selling your
807
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,100
Birthright for a mess of
pottage, you know.
808
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:09,600
Yep.
Like you would Trade your
809
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,100
freedom for some cucumbers.
Well, and I think it's actually
810
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:16,300
deeper than that.
So I've I've thought about this
811
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:19,200
a little bit.
Once when, when we adopted our
812
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,600
twins we had to become foster
parents first.
813
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,000
Yeah, which was just asinine,
right?
814
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,100
I have four kids who were doing
well because of my wife.
815
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:30,500
I'm not gonna lie.
It wasn't it?
816
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:34,900
It had nothing to do with me but
anyway they're doing good and
817
00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:37,900
I'm taking a class on parenting
from somebody who's never had
818
00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:41,700
kids.
Move me nuts down, right, but I
819
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:45,200
played the game.
One day I was getting ready to
820
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,500
head out of that class I mean,
I'd go that class.
821
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:49,600
I'm like you look at what you
get out of here, right?
822
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,100
I would be watching the clock
and I'm like, I'm out one day.
823
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:58,100
I get caught, I was talking to
another guy and the lady, he was
824
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:01,900
teaching, the class came up and
said, hey, I was wondering if
825
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:05,500
you would go with us.
Some, a pretty big guy, right?
826
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,500
We have to do and what they
called an extraction, okay?
827
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,600
For my house.
And the the, the city Police
828
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,000
Department was fairly thin and
she's like, they've assured us,
829
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,200
that it's safe.
But I would like some help.
830
00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:21,800
There's going to be one other
cop there and I'm like, okay
831
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:27,100
fine, right, so I get in there,
do this, and we drive down
832
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:32,700
there, and it's just horrible
conditions, Joshua, there's no
833
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:36,100
food in the house.
There's moldy food in the house.
834
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:39,400
There is feces on the wall,
filth and squalor.
835
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,200
It's filth and squalor, and you
can tell these kids have been
836
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,400
abused like Having been a former
smoker.
837
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,100
I know what a cigarette butt
burn looks like and those kids
838
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:53,100
had them.
It was horrific.
839
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,200
Horrific made me want to pound
somebody.
840
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,200
I was like, where is he?
I got something I want to give
841
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:04,300
them.
And what struck me is even when
842
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:07,300
we were telling the kids we're
going to take you someplace
843
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:08,800
safer.
You're going to be able to go
844
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,200
someplace where there's good
food they fought.
845
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:14,700
They were Were like I can't
leave here.
846
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:16,700
I got to stay here.
I got to stay here.
847
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:20,400
This is where I'm at and there's
this human condition that we get
848
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,400
in where the fear of the
unknown.
849
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:29,900
Seems worse than whatever
condition you're in now.
850
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:33,500
And I think that that we can
take that lesson away that.
851
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:38,300
Yeah, sometimes the unknown is
way better than what's here.
852
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,600
Devil, you don't the devil, you
know, is better than the.
853
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,300
Yeah.
I don't I don't necessarily
854
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:45,600
ascribe to that in most cases, I
think, well, maybe not.
855
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,400
Right and and I think I think
that's the Lord saying don't be
856
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,100
too scared of change.
Change is inevitable.
857
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:55,700
So yeah so I think part of the
plagues was God just had to
858
00:54:55,707 --> 00:54:57,800
destroy Egypt.
Yeah, it doesn't.
859
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,700
It's not appealing anymore
because yes just hail and fire
860
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:05,000
and all he did his.
Yeah.
861
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,100
Like let's just destroy this
place so that by people are not
862
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,200
gonna feel a desire to stay,
right?
863
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:17,300
Yeah.
So, yeah.
864
00:55:17,300 --> 00:55:20,200
Anyway, I mean, that happens,
there World felt of fell apart,
865
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,700
and they experienced a lot of
the plagues to not all of them,
866
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,800
but the first few, the
Israelites and the Egyptians
867
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,000
felt equally.
So there's you and there's a
868
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,800
lesson in that to like God's
people are not guaranteed to.
869
00:55:37,900 --> 00:55:41,500
Have an easy time at it when the
plagues and the destruction come
870
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:43,000
like you're going to feel it
too.
871
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:48,800
But but Ultimate Destruction
there's a promise there that
872
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,200
Ultimate Destruction will not
what you will pass over you.
873
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,300
Right?
So yeah.
874
00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:06,100
So let's see, so now there's
There's kind of three, three
875
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:10,900
kind of closely related
festivals or important days
876
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:13,900
surrounding Passover.
There's the Passover itself,
877
00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:17,800
which is, as I mentioned before
is the, is the Lamb actually in
878
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,900
the lab or the, or the goat is
killed on the on the 14th.
879
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,100
And then beginning on the 15th
and going for seven days, we
880
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:28,200
have the Feast of unleavened
bread and why unleavened bread
881
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:32,200
to remind them of the haste with
which they left.
882
00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:34,700
Egypt, right?
They couldn't wait for the bread
883
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:37,100
to rise.
And so, they baked these flat,
884
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:41,500
this flatbread.
And then the other thing is
885
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:46,800
late, this didn't this didn't
happen when they first left
886
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:52,300
Egypt, but later on in Leviticus
look in, Leviticus 23, it talks
887
00:56:52,300 --> 00:56:59,800
about the first fruits offering
and this is the this this is the
888
00:56:59,808 --> 00:57:05,600
first fruits of the barley So in
in the land of Israel The Barley
889
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,600
becomes ripe.
At about the time, I'll pass
890
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:15,100
over a little before and the
rule that God gave is when The
891
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:19,600
Barley starts to become ripe, no
one can eat, you're not supposed
892
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:26,200
to eat the new grain until the
first offering has been made to
893
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,500
God.
And then, and then, and then you
894
00:57:29,508 --> 00:57:32,600
can Partake of the bread after
that.
895
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:40,900
So and that that first day of
first, fruits, actually, there
896
00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:42,800
are different Traditions about
this and we can talk about that
897
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,800
a little bit, but it's connected
with the Feast of unleavened
898
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:51,800
bread.
I'll just say that one, the most
899
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,600
common tradition, which is the
tradition that the rabbi is
900
00:57:54,600 --> 00:58:01,700
take, is that the day when the
first Sheaf of barley is
901
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:07,500
supposed to be offered is the
second day of unleavened bread.
902
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:09,000
Hmm.
Okay.
903
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,600
The carrots, which is another
branch of Judaism.
904
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,900
They feel like that.
It's it's going to be basically
905
00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:21,100
the Sunday during the Feast of
unleavened bread.
906
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:25,500
Whenever that it doesn't could
be, could be the first or the
907
00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:28,000
second, third, fourth fifth or
sixth or seventh day.
908
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,800
But when there's going to be a
Sunday in there, Somewhere, he
909
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,000
would be the day after the
weekly Sabbath basically.
910
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,600
So, and in ancient times, these
two views were basically the
911
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:41,300
Pharisees and the Sadducees like
disagreed.
912
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:46,700
Coraz��n is about the Sadducees
were of the of the opinion.
913
00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:50,100
That the first fruit offering
mentioned in Leviticus 23,
914
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:53,900
should be like during the Sunday
during the Feast of unleavened
915
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:55,600
bread.
And the Pharisees said, No, it
916
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,000
should be the second day of
unleavened bread.
917
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Whenever that is okay.
So fast forwarding now, too.
918
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,000
Jesus, and his fulfillment, of
course, there's so many things
919
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,900
that did that Jesus fulfilled.
He's referred to as the Lamb of
920
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:20,800
God and over and over throughout
the scriptures when it when it
921
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,600
talks about a lamb, like in the
Book of Revelation, there's this
922
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:31,900
lamb is talked about and I mean,
it's referring to this Passover
923
00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:33,500
imagery.
Okay.
924
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:39,300
So there's all kinds of things
that actually, the The
925
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:42,900
celebration of Passover and the
different kind of rituals.
926
00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:47,100
They, they point to they talk
about Jesus triumphant entry.
927
00:59:48,300 --> 00:59:51,000
They talked about his cleansing
of the Temple.
928
00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:57,100
Before Shadow him as the as the
Passover Lamb.
929
00:59:58,100 --> 01:00:03,800
The significance of the Lord's
Supper, the sacrament, the the
930
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,800
Passover rituals foreshadowed
the place and time of his
931
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,300
crucifixion.
They foreshadow those
932
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:15,800
responsible for his death.
There's foreshadowing of the
933
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,100
three days in the Tomb and also
the the time of his
934
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:22,200
resurrection.
So all of those things We are
935
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:28,700
fulfilled in detail by Jesus,
and he is his passion week
936
01:00:28,700 --> 01:00:32,100
basically.
So, first one is the the
937
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:36,000
triumphant entry.
So this and you can read, this
938
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:41,100
is in John, in the gospels.
Matthew Mark talked about it,
939
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:45,700
too, but this is, when Jesus
comes riding into Jerusalem, on
940
01:00:45,700 --> 01:00:49,600
the donkey and everyone's
shouting Hosanna, and they've
941
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,600
got the palm branches.
Has and they're throwing down
942
01:00:52,600 --> 01:01:00,200
their jackets or whatever to to
make a path for him and they
943
01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:07,200
they hail him as King right
essentially and this at this
944
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:13,600
point like until this this
really is this setting Jesus
945
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,700
gets set apart from the rest of
the Israelites.
946
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,600
He's been mingling with them,
he's been mingling with the
947
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,500
lowlifes, right, the tax
collectors, the prostitutes and
948
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:32,900
the Sinners, and, but now
suddenly he is, he's gaining
949
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:37,400
traction, he's gaining
popularity and he suddenly gets
950
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:43,500
elevated to King essentially in.
It's symbolically speaking they
951
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:48,000
recognized him as that and this,
you know, the Leadership has
952
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,300
been nervous about him.
Oh yeah but they're like no no
953
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,500
we definitely got to take care
of this problem.
954
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:57,100
This is embarrassing.
Right?
955
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,300
And this this happens this John
gives the timing.
956
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:03,900
This is happens on the tenth day
of Passover their 10th day of
957
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:06,700
the first month.
This is when the Passover Lambs
958
01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:13,300
are so set apart from the rest
of the flock as the as the
959
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:17,300
sacrificial lamb.
So, here he is, set apart.
960
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:20,200
His with, with the triumphal
entry.
961
01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:27,700
So Jesus, of course, cleanses
the temple to okay, makes a whip
962
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,800
and it's a, it's a great story
for all those people who you
963
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:37,200
have the the big teddy bear,
loving accepting Jesus, right?
964
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,000
That wouldn't hurt a flea or
whatever, right?
965
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,100
But, you know, he braids takes
the time to braid a whip, and
966
01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:46,200
then goes in and flips over the
tables and cleans house.
967
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:51,100
Yep.
And this is fulfilling the
968
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:58,400
Passover symbolism as well,
because in preparation for the
969
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,800
Feast of unleavened bread,
they're supposed to clean their
970
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,600
houses of all the comments or
the Levin.
971
01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:11,400
So, here he is, he says, I'm
cleaning my father's house right
972
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:17,800
of the wickedness that's there.
And of course leaven in the Hers
973
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:23,000
has a number of meanings, but
generally, not always, but
974
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,000
generally there's kind of a
negative connotation.
975
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:29,300
Right. 11 is represented
representative of sin of some
976
01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:34,300
sort or false ideas.
At least, like Jesus said,
977
01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:38,700
Beware of the leaven of the
Pharisees right now.
978
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:43,200
It's not always, it's not always
negative, but usually it is.
979
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,200
Jesus also says, To his
followers, A little leaven
980
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,900
leavens, the whole lump like he
he wants us to be the leaven for
981
01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:57,100
the world.
But I, but with the righteous
982
01:03:57,100 --> 01:04:01,000
counterpart, to the leaven of
the Pharisees, in the wickedness
983
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:08,700
of these, these uninspired
Traditions that the Pharisees
984
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:13,600
are constantly trying to pile
onto everybody Jesus. he gets
985
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,200
criticized for not following
their Traditions all the time
986
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,600
even though he's since he's
keeping all the Commandments but
987
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,600
he does not keep their
Traditions, you know, he Pick
988
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,100
some food on the Sabbath and
heals people on the Sabbath.
989
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:32,100
And his his disciples eat with
unwashed hands and he's being
990
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:34,700
criticized constantly.
But all these things that he's
991
01:04:34,700 --> 01:04:36,900
being criticized about, none of
them are actual Commandments,
992
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:39,000
right?
These are otherwise, he's not a
993
01:04:39,008 --> 01:04:41,500
seamless, right?
They're all, they're all the
994
01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:44,700
traditions of the Pharisees,
which he says, beware of this
995
01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:51,800
this leavening that they have.
So, so, so he's, so there's,
996
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,600
there's some corruption in the
temple.
997
01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:56,000
To and who knows what all that
entails.
998
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:01,900
I've heard the theories about.
you know, your people bring
999
01:05:01,900 --> 01:05:09,700
animals and, and The priests
were maybe saying oh you know
1000
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,500
you know we found this problem
with your lab that you brought.
1001
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:18,400
So why don't you?
You know we have some here
1002
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,000
though that you can buy from us
that are certified or whatever
1003
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:27,700
and they were you know kind of
Abusing the system as they
1004
01:05:27,700 --> 01:05:29,700
turned into a money-making
operation.
1005
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,000
Yeah.
Jesus didn't like that.
1006
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,000
No.
So he cleaned 11 out of his out
1007
01:05:34,008 --> 01:05:39,300
of his father's house.
Then of course, he is the Lamb
1008
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:44,500
that the scriptures are full of
that and he's not only is he the
1009
01:05:44,500 --> 01:05:46,100
lamb?
But he's the lamb that was slain
1010
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,600
from before the foundation of
the world, from the foundation
1011
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,300
of the world.
So this is always the plan and
1012
01:05:54,500 --> 01:05:57,000
Time and place of his
crucifixion.
1013
01:05:58,500 --> 01:06:02,400
Now, in the, in Exodus chapter
12, when they're, when Jehovah
1014
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,200
is giving instructions, he tells
them to on the on the 14th.
1015
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:11,300
He says, you're supposed to kill
kill the Passover Lambs on in
1016
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:16,300
the afternoon.
The Hebrew phrase is between the
1017
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:21,800
evenings, okay?
So in the Hebrew Hebrew way of
1018
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,000
thinking, about the day, there's
actually two evenings and we
1019
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:31,800
actually in our English, modern
speech, we refer to these things
1020
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,900
as evenings to the first evening
is noon and when the sun, when
1021
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:39,900
the Sun reaches high place and
then starts to go down that's
1022
01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:42,400
evening and of course we say
p.m. that's right.
1023
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,400
Evening right.
But then there's also the
1024
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,700
evening where the sun is
actually getting close to the
1025
01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:49,900
Horizon and you searched the sky
turns red and starts to get
1026
01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:52,300
dimmer.
We call that evening as well.
1027
01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:57,800
And so did ancient Israelites.
So between the evenings is the,
1028
01:06:57,900 --> 01:07:00,900
the phrase used.
So so that was in the afternoon
1029
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:06,000
and typically the Passover Lambs
were killed between like 3:00
1030
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:11,900
and 5:00 p.m.
And in the Gospels it says
1031
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:15,200
that's that is that is the time
that Jesus was crucified to.
1032
01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:16,500
Wow.
Right.
1033
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:19,900
Right.
Then when at the temple, all of
1034
01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:24,000
the the Passover Lambs were
being killed Jesus.
1035
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,400
At that same time, was being
flogged and then nailed to the
1036
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,900
cross and all those horrible
things.
1037
01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:42,500
So, so evil, feel that now There
is kind of an interesting.
1038
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:52,200
Glitch in the gospels.
And that is the synoptic gospels
1039
01:07:52,700 --> 01:07:55,100
of Matthew, Mark.
And Luke, they all say that the
1040
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:59,900
last supper or they don't
necessarily say, but they imply,
1041
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:06,900
they imply very strongly that
the last supper was the Passover
1042
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:17,700
however, John says that it was
before the Passover Now, and
1043
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:23,500
which I agree, I agree with John
because if Jesus had kind of
1044
01:08:24,700 --> 01:08:29,200
eaten the Passover and then been
killed the following day, he
1045
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,700
would, he would not have been
the Passover Lamb.
1046
01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:34,600
Right?
Is more important for him to be
1047
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,700
the Passover than to partake,
eat the Passover, right?
1048
01:08:37,899 --> 01:08:42,399
And actually in Luke, he says he
says, I have really want.
1049
01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:44,100
He says, I've desired with
desire.
1050
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:47,000
Great.
Our to eat this Passover, but
1051
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,600
I'm not going to I'm not going
to partake it again until until
1052
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,500
the kingdom.
I've got rights, basically.
1053
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:57,700
So anyway, there's some things
we probably won't get into it
1054
01:08:57,700 --> 01:09:04,200
but there's looking at the Greek
construction of the sentences in
1055
01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:11,500
Matthew, Mark and Luke it
actually it actually can be
1056
01:09:11,899 --> 01:09:14,000
translated a couple of different
ways.
1057
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:17,200
And I think the better
translation is rather than at
1058
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,800
some point says on the first day
of unleavened bread, the better
1059
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,200
translation is it actually says
before before the Feast of
1060
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,899
unleavened bread they were
getting they're making
1061
01:09:24,899 --> 01:09:28,000
preparations.
So anyway, that's just a little
1062
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:33,399
side note but I think Jesus was
here, he was crucified when the
1063
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:36,100
Lambs were being slaughtered
slaughtered.
1064
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:42,600
Yeah.
Okay, so those responsible for
1065
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:50,000
his death to the Passover.
The Passover ritual is actually
1066
01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:56,900
tell us about that too and it's
really tempting sometimes to
1067
01:09:56,900 --> 01:10:02,400
point to the Romans say, ah,
yeah those those dirty Romans,
1068
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:07,800
they're the ones that killed
Jesus or even to say those the
1069
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,800
Jews, especially the, the
corrupt Jewish leadership.
1070
01:10:10,900 --> 01:10:16,100
They're the ones that killed
Jesus, but you know who, you
1071
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:19,600
know, who kills the Is over.
It's the actual people of Israel
1072
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,800
when they allow Barabbas to go
free.
1073
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,500
Yeah.
The people you know the people
1074
01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:29,900
the people do that.
And and and that's what in
1075
01:10:29,900 --> 01:10:33,700
Exodus chapter 12.
He says you know, the father of
1076
01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:38,000
every house you're going to you
you are going to kill the lamb
1077
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:45,000
and it is it is by them and and
for them that the lamb is killed
1078
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,600
and you know I mean that's a
humbling thing to think about
1079
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:54,200
actually I think about that
sometimes when you know what I'm
1080
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,900
doing the sacrament with my
family ER fellowship or
1081
01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:03,900
whatever.
We partake of the bread and the
1082
01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:08,000
wine.
You in remembrance of Jesus.
1083
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:13,600
But the guys, the guys who are
administering, right?
1084
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,100
Are the ones who are ripping you
have flesh, right?
1085
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,900
Yeah, this is me.
This is my sins.
1086
01:11:21,700 --> 01:11:25,000
Every time I tear it.
I just think of my, you know, my
1087
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,200
sins.
And this is what I do.
1088
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,200
This is what I did to my savior.
Yep.
1089
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:33,600
And I, I his blood was poured
out because of me.
1090
01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:36,200
Yep.
And for me, And it was not the
1091
01:11:36,208 --> 01:11:38,200
Romans who shed his blood that
was me.
1092
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,400
Yep, you know.
So I think there's also an
1093
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,600
interesting parallel there to
that.
1094
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:51,700
We know that there was a large
faction of Israel that wasn't
1095
01:11:51,700 --> 01:11:54,500
happy that Rome was there.
Yeah.
1096
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:55,400
Right.
Right now.
1097
01:11:55,407 --> 01:11:59,100
And rightfully so I don't think
any of us would be happy with an
1098
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:02,700
occupying power.
Very few having said that
1099
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:10,800
Because of political strife's.
They were so angry, they prefer
1100
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,600
to murderer.
Over somebody else and I think
1101
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:20,200
that that can be kind of a
cautionary tale as well, right?
1102
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:26,700
And I get some Flack for this.
I liked Trump as a president.
1103
01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:28,300
I thought he did some good
stuff.
1104
01:12:28,300 --> 01:12:32,300
I was a huge fan when he moved
the embassy to Jerusalem I'm
1105
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:36,500
like I didn't see that coming.
So I yeah, II definitely didn't
1106
01:12:36,500 --> 01:12:39,400
vote for Hillary, but I did
write in another candidate.
1107
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,100
I did right in Ted Cruz because
I just didn't think Trump.
1108
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,800
Was was a constitutionalist.
I was wrong.
1109
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:50,500
I'll admit that he was better
than I thought he was.
1110
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,100
The one thing that scared me
about Trump was that he appealed
1111
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:59,000
to everybody's anger?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
1112
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:02,800
And that to me is always
troubling and I think you see
1113
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:07,900
parallels in that with what
happened with Barabbas and
1114
01:13:07,900 --> 01:13:11,200
Jesus, right?
People are so angry that they're
1115
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,700
being occupied.
We want we want not Jesus,
1116
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:15,900
right?
We don't.
1117
01:13:15,900 --> 01:13:18,600
They weren't look, whoever we
doesn't matter, right?
1118
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,600
Just he's anybody to make the
Romans lot harder and we know,
1119
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:26,000
That Barabbas, he was he was one
of the zealots, right?
1120
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,100
He was one of those hanging out
down, by the Galilee performing
1121
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:34,600
Guerrilla tactics and that sort
of thing because let's face it.
1122
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,400
If he's murdering other Jews,
the Jewish people, probably are
1123
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,000
more like, yeah.
You keep him.
1124
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:42,000
Yeah.
Yeah.
1125
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,600
We'll take Jesus.
And he Barabbas is killing
1126
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:50,400
quote, the right people.
And so that political anger can
1127
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,700
be somewhat blinding and I think
it's a cautionary tale to be
1128
01:13:54,700 --> 01:13:56,600
very careful who you're pinning
to?
1129
01:13:56,900 --> 01:14:01,000
Yeah, no that's that's blinding
is the right word.
1130
01:14:01,100 --> 01:14:01,700
Yeah.
Yeah.
1131
01:14:01,700 --> 01:14:05,200
When you let your anger, dictate
a lot of your decisions.
1132
01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:09,600
You knew a lot of silly crap
when you're angry and that was
1133
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,400
that was my only not now.
And it's not only a.
1134
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,500
Yeah.
And it's and it's the anger of a
1135
01:14:14,508 --> 01:14:16,600
crowd too, right?
Yeah.
1136
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,500
Yeah.
It's that mob mentality.
1137
01:14:19,900 --> 01:14:23,200
You've seen those those Your
posters like sky, right?
1138
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,800
Yeah, this Eagle soaring, or
whatever or the cat hanging on
1139
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,100
and says, hang in there.
Yeah.
1140
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:30,800
They're an excellence and
persevere and all that.
1141
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,900
There's, there's also, there's
a, his company is probably a few
1142
01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:36,700
companies that make not
motivational posters but
1143
01:14:36,700 --> 01:14:39,900
demotivation I've seen those are
awesome bellarius.
1144
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:45,500
My favorite one though is its
pictures and all these hands
1145
01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:48,100
like in the middle like we're
going to we're going to do a go
1146
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:52,900
team kind of thing.
But the caption is like I think
1147
01:14:52,900 --> 01:14:56,400
the caption says, teamwork and
but then the the subtitle is
1148
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,300
none of us is, as dumb as all of
us.
1149
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,700
Yep.
Yep.
1150
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:03,700
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's easy.
1151
01:15:03,700 --> 01:15:07,900
There's so many Grace embolisms
within the Passover and when you
1152
01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:11,600
start looking at what happens to
Jesus, it's, it's, it's good
1153
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,500
stuff.
Yeah.
1154
01:15:12,500 --> 01:15:16,300
It's the it's the best.
So, okay.
1155
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,600
You know, his time in the Tomb
and the time of his
1156
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,800
resurrection, this is really
cool too because Hey.
1157
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:30,200
Paul, the Apostle.
Paul, he picks up on this in his
1158
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:36,800
writings and he refers to Jesus
as the firstfruits of them that
1159
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,200
slept.
Okay.
1160
01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:42,700
And this is talking about the,
the first fruits of the barley
1161
01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:48,700
Harvest and, and equating that
to the resurrection and Paul has
1162
01:15:48,700 --> 01:15:57,500
plenty of imagery about this.
But as I said, you know, the and
1163
01:15:57,500 --> 01:16:04,400
this happens during Passover and
it happens on happens on, as I
1164
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,700
said that the Sadducees felt
like, it should always be on the
1165
01:16:06,708 --> 01:16:10,500
Sunday and Pharisees thought it
should be the second day.
1166
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:12,000
And sometimes those were the
same.
1167
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,700
And the year that and I love
this to about about Jesus is
1168
01:16:16,700 --> 01:16:20,000
that I think the year that he
died, those were actually
1169
01:16:20,300 --> 01:16:24,300
listening to same day.
So, It actually satisfied, both
1170
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:26,700
both calendar systems.
Okay?
1171
01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:34,000
But but basically Jesus is the
first Sheaf of the resurrection
1172
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,900
of the first fruits of the
Resurrection.
1173
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:39,500
So and what that means is, no
one else can partake of the
1174
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:44,500
Resurrection until that first
shieff is offered right?
1175
01:16:44,500 --> 01:16:49,900
And he and Jesus says that to
Mary in the garden.
1176
01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:54,700
He says I he says don't hold me.
Some of the translations say
1177
01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:57,600
don't touch me but that's not
what he was intending.
1178
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,100
I don't believe says, don't hold
me as in.
1179
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:03,500
Don't hold me back.
I need to go present myself to
1180
01:17:03,500 --> 01:17:06,900
the father, right?
As that as that first Sheaf of
1181
01:17:06,900 --> 01:17:12,500
the resurrection and then once
that is done, then other other
1182
01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:15,500
folks can partake of the
Resurrection to gotcha.
1183
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,700
So, so that was fulfilled there
as well.
1184
01:17:17,900 --> 01:17:25,500
So really, really amazing stuff.
Now, how is it?
1185
01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:30,200
How is it celebrated, you know
these things?
1186
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:38,100
Well, the modern the modern
celebration really is in a
1187
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:43,000
Seder.
So seder, Passover seder is a
1188
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,200
Seder means and ordered meal.
Mmm.
1189
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:51,400
So they have this symbolic meal
and there's kind of these parts
1190
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,500
it's kind of like a play almost
and you're the father will say
1191
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:58,300
something and then the family
will say something and then you
1192
01:17:58,300 --> 01:17:59,900
know, the children will say
something and there's kind of a
1193
01:17:59,900 --> 01:18:11,300
script That you read and in a
lot of ways I the Seder is very
1194
01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:15,200
much like the endowment.
Hmm.
1195
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:24,100
And the reason for that action,
we're going to going to read see
1196
01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:28,300
if I wrote it down.
Let's see.
1197
01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:29,900
Well let's see.
In Exodus 13 somewhere.
1198
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,700
Okay.
So one of the one of The
1199
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:38,500
Commandments connect it to
Passover is that you are
1200
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:41,800
supposed to teach this to your
children, right?
1201
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,100
Forever and you're supposed to
do these things.
1202
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:50,500
And you know, keep this as a
memorial for ever, that's how
1203
01:18:50,500 --> 01:18:54,700
important it is.
So in Exodus 13 starting in
1204
01:18:54,700 --> 01:19:07,900
verse 14. let's see, actually
Okay.
1205
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:10,800
Yeah now I'm going to read I
start in verse 8.
1206
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:15,400
So just before that he's talking
about seven days of unleavened
1207
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,500
bread.
And verse 8 says and thou shalt
1208
01:19:18,500 --> 01:19:23,600
show thy son in that day saying.
And by the way, this aisle I'm
1209
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:28,600
going to back up to five, sorry.
No Exodus 13 Verse 5 says when
1210
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,300
when the Lord shall bring thee
into the land.
1211
01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:38,200
Okay, so when the Lord brings
them into the land, was there.
1212
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:43,100
Anyone who is brought into the
land who actually experienced
1213
01:19:43,500 --> 01:19:46,200
what happened in Egypt?
No, because they all the old
1214
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,900
generation died off in the
wanderings.
1215
01:19:47,900 --> 01:19:52,100
No one except Joshua Caleb.
Yep, that's it.
1216
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:58,000
So, but even though, even though
none of the people there who
1217
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:02,200
will be brought into the land
actually experienced it, this is
1218
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,400
the Commandment that they're
Ian, it's really amazing.
1219
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,100
Now shall Shew thy son in that
day, saying this is done because
1220
01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:14,600
of that, which Jehovah did unto
me when I came forth out of
1221
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,400
Egypt.
Hmm!
1222
01:20:16,700 --> 01:20:24,200
See, so, even nowadays, like,
you are the Commandment is that
1223
01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:26,300
when you have your family,
sitting around the table and
1224
01:20:26,300 --> 01:20:29,500
you're eating unleavened bread
and lamb and bitter herbs.
1225
01:20:29,700 --> 01:20:33,700
And you tell the story you're
supposed to tell your Children.
1226
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:40,000
This is what God did for me when
I came out of Egypt and, and
1227
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,000
every generation is supposed to
tell, this is what God did for
1228
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,000
me.
When I came out when he took me
1229
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:54,400
out of Egypt throughout your
Generations because 11, our
1230
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,900
ancestors story is our story.
Yep.
1231
01:20:57,700 --> 01:21:04,500
And to this is this is a We've
mentioned it several times.
1232
01:21:04,500 --> 01:21:08,600
This is a personal story that
gets told over and over, you
1233
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,600
know in the endowment it says
each of you is supposed to
1234
01:21:12,700 --> 01:21:15,800
consider yourselves as though
you were.
1235
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,900
You had him and Eve, right?
We weren't Adam and Eve and yet
1236
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:23,900
we and yet we are Adam and Eve.
And this is a story about us and
1237
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:27,800
we are learning.
We are taking upon ourselves
1238
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:32,800
this the identity of our
ancestors and add going through
1239
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,500
the thing.
That they went through and
1240
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:38,500
learning about the things that
they experience in hopes that we
1241
01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:40,600
can have the blessings that they
had.
1242
01:21:41,300 --> 01:21:43,800
Right.
And so when we when the Seder,
1243
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:47,900
when the seder meal is done and
we tell the story and we go
1244
01:21:47,900 --> 01:21:52,300
through these, this ceremonial
reenactment of that night.
1245
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,400
Each of you is to consider
yourselves as though you were
1246
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,500
there in Egypt, right?
And you were freed and you tell
1247
01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:00,800
your children, this is what God
did for me.
1248
01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:04,000
Personally, you know, that's one
of the Things I love about
1249
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:09,100
Mormonism, is that?
You can always tell where God
1250
01:22:09,100 --> 01:22:11,300
has been because he leaves an
impression that lasts for
1251
01:22:11,300 --> 01:22:13,600
generations and preceding
Generations.
1252
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,100
Hearken back to it.
We do this with our youth,
1253
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,600
right?
And this this will ring true,
1254
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,400
especially in the LDS church.
How many times have they went
1255
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,100
back?
Re-enacted Trek.
1256
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,900
Right?
Why would you do that?
1257
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:30,000
It's this exact same thing.
It is, God was in the details of
1258
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:30,800
that.
How do I know?
1259
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,400
Because his impression is so
defined that we now have
1260
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,600
successive generations to
Generations.
1261
01:22:36,700 --> 01:22:40,000
Going back.
To reenact those things to have
1262
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,900
an appreciation to have that
experience.
1263
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,700
It's the same thing he did with
the Jewish Nation with Israel
1264
01:22:47,500 --> 01:22:51,500
reenact this.
This is just it's just like he
1265
01:22:51,500 --> 01:22:53,800
went through it.
It's just like the endowment.
1266
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,100
That's a good because you're
going to pass through with the
1267
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:58,700
ultimate ancestor passed
through.
1268
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:00,400
Yeah.
To get here.
1269
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:01,300
That's right.
Yeah.
1270
01:23:01,300 --> 01:23:04,800
It's like the I mean I reminded
of lectures on faith.
1271
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,900
I think it's six or seven.
I can't remember now but it's
1272
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:10,300
basically like like you want you
want the blessings that your
1273
01:23:10,300 --> 01:23:12,900
ancestors had em.
You do it?
1274
01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:14,000
They did.
Yep.
1275
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:17,800
And and it is vain for you to
think that you can have the same
1276
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,900
blessing without the same
sacrifice, you do it.
1277
01:23:19,907 --> 01:23:21,400
They did.
You'll get the blessing they
1278
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,400
got.
And that's it, that's the rule.
1279
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,200
And I think it's also a
fulfillment of that promise
1280
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,000
where, you know, the hearts will
be turned to the fathers.
1281
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,900
And the hearts of the children
shall be turned to their fathers
1282
01:23:32,900 --> 01:23:34,200
and their fathers to their
children.
1283
01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:37,300
Yeah, I think that is very much
a part of that.
1284
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,500
Because what better way to have
your heart turn to your
1285
01:23:40,500 --> 01:23:44,800
ancestors, then to you, as they
did to experience what they
1286
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,100
experienced.
And if I'm not mistaken, the
1287
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:51,800
seder meal has some pretty
bitter herbs, you're going to
1288
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,100
recoil at the experience, just
like your ancestors did.
1289
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:57,400
That's right.
Yeah, yeah.
1290
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:01,700
It's beautiful, beautiful.
But that that like welding link
1291
01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:04,500
between the generations is built
into the Commandments
1292
01:24:04,500 --> 01:24:10,200
surrounding surrounding.
The observance of Passover.
1293
01:24:11,300 --> 01:24:16,000
So yeah.
Now there's so the Seder.
1294
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:20,700
I said the stator is in seder is
found in a book called the
1295
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:24,400
Haggadah.
The Haggadah I've gotta means
1296
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,300
the telling.
So this this contains the and
1297
01:24:27,300 --> 01:24:29,900
I'm holding one here for those
of you who can't see, but the
1298
01:24:29,900 --> 01:24:34,700
Haggadah is it contains the
story of Passover, which they're
1299
01:24:34,700 --> 01:24:37,700
commanded to tell and also kind
of the instructions for the
1300
01:24:37,900 --> 01:24:39,000
Emil.
Right.
1301
01:24:39,500 --> 01:24:43,200
And yeah.
And it involves these symbolic
1302
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:47,200
elements, the main, you know,
the symbolic elements that are
1303
01:24:47,300 --> 01:24:53,900
required by the scriptures are
lamb, unleavened bread and
1304
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:59,500
bitter herbs and you mention
bitter herbs can be many things,
1305
01:24:59,500 --> 01:25:04,700
but traditionally that involves
horseradish and, and the
1306
01:25:04,700 --> 01:25:07,400
tradition with that is that
you're supposed to take like the
1307
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:12,600
size of Olive like and it's
uncomfortable, right?
1308
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,000
And it's supposed to be, it's
supposed to bring you to tears,
1309
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:15,800
you know?
Yep.
1310
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,500
And it does.
Okay.
1311
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,400
Now there are there are
additional symbolic elements
1312
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:27,200
that have been added over time.
And that includes like washing
1313
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,800
of hands.
There's a couple of times where
1314
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:34,900
this is done and eating this
mixture called Hora set, which
1315
01:25:34,900 --> 01:25:37,600
is basically made from fruits
and nuts.
1316
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:42,000
And juice or wine kind of boiled
together into a paste.
1317
01:25:42,300 --> 01:25:45,300
And this is to remind them of
like the mortar that they made
1318
01:25:45,300 --> 01:25:47,200
bricks with and stuff.
Okay?
1319
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,500
And there's also these, these
cups of wine trade, the
1320
01:25:53,500 --> 01:25:57,300
tradition is four cups of wine
at various points throughout the
1321
01:25:57,300 --> 01:26:05,500
meal.
And so, little side note on
1322
01:26:05,500 --> 01:26:10,000
that, by the way, out of you, if
you ever have you seen John
1323
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,600
Donne Bradley's book?
The Lost 116 Pages.
1324
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,900
I've seen it.
I've never read it.
1325
01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:17,900
Excellent book.
Highly recommend it.
1326
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:22,700
He has some really interesting
historical background that has
1327
01:26:22,700 --> 01:26:27,500
been dug up about the contents
of the Lost pages.
1328
01:26:27,500 --> 01:26:32,800
And at least one of The
interesting details that's lost
1329
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:38,700
is that at the time when Lehi
and his family, make their
1330
01:26:38,700 --> 01:26:42,200
Exodus from Jerusalem, it is
during this Festival of the
1331
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:46,600
Jews.
And there's good evidence from,
1332
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:49,600
there's good evidence that this
was that Lehigh probably left
1333
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:55,300
during Passover.
And the fact that fact that
1334
01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:59,300
Nephi found Laban drunk in the
streets, probably, because he
1335
01:26:59,308 --> 01:27:01,500
was out, he's probably had more
than four cups of wine.
1336
01:27:02,300 --> 01:27:04,600
But anyway, but is probably
connected with Passover.
1337
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,800
There's a lot of actually
Passover imagery, kind of in The
1338
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:11,900
Exodus of Lehi, and his family.
So so there's a little more,
1339
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,200
another, another Mormon
connection there.
1340
01:27:15,900 --> 01:27:25,100
So anyway, the Seder is
interesting because nobody
1341
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:27,100
actually knows who wrote the
Seder.
1342
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:32,200
There's many different kind of
versions that have come up over
1343
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:36,600
the years, but but we know that
it's about 2,000 years old.
1344
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:39,900
At least interesting, though,
smidge.
1345
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:49,800
Yeah, interesting though, is
Many things in Christianity and
1346
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:55,300
Mormonism included.
Have, you know, either I will
1347
01:27:55,300 --> 01:28:00,600
say continued continued or
borrowed symbolism and elements
1348
01:28:01,300 --> 01:28:05,700
from Judaism but the the
exchange has gone the other way
1349
01:28:05,700 --> 01:28:07,800
too.
And there's actually there's
1350
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,400
actually very good.
There's some, there's some good
1351
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:16,700
evidence that the, the Jewish
Seder actually was Is a response
1352
01:28:16,700 --> 01:28:23,300
to the Christian celebration of
Passover because the Last
1353
01:28:23,300 --> 01:28:25,900
Supper, which although it was
not a Passover, definitely had
1354
01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:29,400
Passover significance, right?
And so in the Seder, there's
1355
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,600
washing of hands in the Last
Supper, there's washing a feet.
1356
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,500
There is the the bread, there's
the wine right?
1357
01:28:36,500 --> 01:28:44,500
Which is in the Seder to there's
Jesus dipping his his bread into
1358
01:28:44,500 --> 01:28:46,200
some sort of diversion.
It's op.
1359
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:51,400
It says right of course Judas
dips within right but but in the
1360
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,100
in the Seder, there's these
haroset, like I said, they
1361
01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:57,700
actually dip into the haroset
and also there's saltwater.
1362
01:28:58,100 --> 01:29:00,200
That's vegetables, are dipped in
at another time.
1363
01:29:00,700 --> 01:29:04,300
But so there's all these and
there's several cups actually
1364
01:29:04,300 --> 01:29:06,800
have wine in the end.
The Last Supper there was
1365
01:29:07,700 --> 01:29:11,300
there's cups mentioned in
throughout the synoptic gospels.
1366
01:29:11,300 --> 01:29:18,100
So, Anyway, the oldest account
in of any historical account
1367
01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:20,900
that we have of anything that
looks like a Seder is actually
1368
01:29:20,900 --> 01:29:26,400
the last supper.
And so this actually is a, you
1369
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,700
has its roots there where I
believe so.
1370
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:42,300
So, That was going to say.
So, anyway, The satyrs Cedars,
1371
01:29:42,300 --> 01:29:45,400
great.
We usually have, oh, I was gonna
1372
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:50,900
say, so there is, there is some
controversy about whether or not
1373
01:29:50,900 --> 01:29:55,300
you should have lamb in modern
times.
1374
01:29:55,400 --> 01:30:02,100
So rabbinic Jews, they
definitely frown upon eating
1375
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:05,800
lamb.
During the Seder.
1376
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,900
And a big part of that is
because they have no Temple, no,
1377
01:30:09,900 --> 01:30:11,700
absence of a temple.
All right.
1378
01:30:11,900 --> 01:30:19,300
And they say there are some
verses in Deuteronomy that If
1379
01:30:19,300 --> 01:30:27,000
you read it one way, seems to
say that that the Passover needs
1380
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:32,000
to be killed at the temple.
And in second in second temple
1381
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,700
times.
Like, in Jesus day, that is kind
1382
01:30:34,700 --> 01:30:37,700
of the practice at least for the
people who were living in
1383
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,200
Jerusalem.
They would bring their lambs to
1384
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,500
the temple, to kill them, and
then take them home and eat
1385
01:30:42,500 --> 01:30:47,300
them.
But I don't want to get into the
1386
01:30:47,300 --> 01:30:52,600
details there, but but isn't
Deuteronomy 16 and it may be, I
1387
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:57,900
think Deuteronomy 16 is actually
describing the the national
1388
01:30:58,300 --> 01:31:02,100
celebration of Passover versus
the individual, familial
1389
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,400
celebration of Passover, which
is described in, Exodus 12 and
1390
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:11,400
13, Passover unleavened bread.
By the way, is this isn't.
1391
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:12,900
Here's another kind of Mormon
connection.
1392
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:17,900
There's there's some time.
Of the year, when everyone is
1393
01:31:17,900 --> 01:31:21,900
supposed to come together, come
to the temple, come to
1394
01:31:21,900 --> 01:31:25,200
Jerusalem, and bring their
offerings.
1395
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,500
And also just receive
instructions from the priest and
1396
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:30,300
stuff.
And one of them is in the spring
1397
01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:36,200
Passover, which is around April
and one of them is in at the
1398
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:40,600
Feast of Tabernacles, which is
in around October usually.
1399
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:46,600
So, although the, you know, the
LDS General Conference the And
1400
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,400
the beginning of April, in the
beginning of October, they're
1401
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,300
not, they don't always line up
with unleavened bread and
1402
01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:54,300
Tabernacles but they're
definitely an echo there.
1403
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,400
The other time the third time,
when in this supposed to be this
1404
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,000
is just for the man other
people, you know, the women are
1405
01:32:01,100 --> 01:32:03,600
allowed to, there's no
restriction there but the manner
1406
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:07,200
required to show up and bring
their offering represent the
1407
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,200
family and bring their
offerings.
1408
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,500
Like I said, and receive
instruction and stuff.
1409
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,900
The other time is Shavuot or the
Feast of Weeks.
1410
01:32:16,500 --> 01:32:21,800
So which is coming up soon and
you're going to you're going to
1411
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,700
give us a talk there at the
restoration Torah conference.
1412
01:32:25,700 --> 01:32:28,400
We'll talk more about that next
time, I guess.
1413
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,900
But anyway, there's controversy
about about that but I am
1414
01:32:32,900 --> 01:32:38,900
convinced that although there
are sacrifices and stuff that
1415
01:32:38,900 --> 01:32:41,800
we're supposed to be done by the
Levites and done in the temple.
1416
01:32:42,100 --> 01:32:46,300
And you Joseph Smith himself
said someday.
1417
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,300
Those things are going to be
done again when again.
1418
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,000
And and Joseph Smith says the
same things at the rabbi say,
1419
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:54,200
which is when the temple is
built.
1420
01:32:55,100 --> 01:33:00,700
When there's a proper place to
do these ironic things, that
1421
01:33:00,700 --> 01:33:06,000
there will be a renewal at least
partly of the, the animal
1422
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,600
sacrifices, as part of the
restoration of all things.
1423
01:33:09,500 --> 01:33:13,400
However, when I read the, when I
read Exodus and read about the
1424
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,300
the Passover Lamb, there's is no
Levites involved.
1425
01:33:16,500 --> 01:33:18,300
Left.
It's just the father of every
1426
01:33:18,300 --> 01:33:20,900
family is supposed to do it.
There's no Temple involved.
1427
01:33:20,900 --> 01:33:27,400
You do it at your, at your house
and so we we do that, we have,
1428
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,600
you know, a lamb that we've
raised in, you know, have one in
1429
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:35,600
my backyard right now, that's
getting bigger by the day and
1430
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,700
you will Slaughter and roast
that lamb.
1431
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,100
I built an oven in our backyard,
so and that'll feed.
1432
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:48,200
Excuse me, fellow feed.
Well, we usually have something
1433
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:52,200
like 60 to 70 people.
Wow, who come, and they course
1434
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:55,900
we don't only eat the lamb, but
we eat the lamb and and then eat
1435
01:33:55,900 --> 01:34:01,600
the bitter herbs, and the matzo,
and the Heart of satin and the
1436
01:34:01,608 --> 01:34:03,300
glasses of wine and have the
Seder.
1437
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:06,300
And it's a good experience,
that's awesome.
1438
01:34:06,500 --> 01:34:10,400
And so when you doing that this
time, so this this year, it's
1439
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,100
going to be April 5th.
The evening of April 5th.
1440
01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:14,900
Evening of April 5th.
Yep.
1441
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:24,300
Will be Paso, Paso the day that
the quote, the day of Passover,
1442
01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:26,400
the day that the lamb is killed
is going to be the fifth.
1443
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,500
But then as the fifth goes into
the evening, you know, after
1444
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:36,300
Sundown then that becomes the
15th day of the first month
1445
01:34:36,300 --> 01:34:40,900
which then is the first day of
unleavened bread which is when
1446
01:34:40,900 --> 01:34:42,300
the lamb is supposed to be
eaten.
1447
01:34:42,300 --> 01:34:46,900
So the lamb is killed on the
14th and then eaten with the,
1448
01:34:47,500 --> 01:34:50,600
the matzo and the bitter herbs
on the 15th of the evening of
1449
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,200
the 15th.
Wow.
1450
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:57,700
So it's kind of been an
emotional experience.
1451
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,300
Oh, you can't.
Yeah.
1452
01:34:59,300 --> 01:35:04,700
You know, I'm definitely not a
vegetarian and I have no problem
1453
01:35:04,700 --> 01:35:07,500
going to the store, you know,
and buying this.
1454
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,900
Yeah.
Processed bloodless gutless
1455
01:35:11,900 --> 01:35:16,600
hairless odorless piece of meat,
you know wrapped in styrofoam
1456
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:23,500
and you know plastic wrap and
whatever faceless but yeah the
1457
01:35:23,500 --> 01:35:28,600
first time the first time that I
actually slaughtered a lamb for
1458
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:34,400
my family to eat.
It was hard and it still is hard
1459
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:35,900
guy.
Don't do it that often.
1460
01:35:35,900 --> 01:35:38,800
I mean do it once once a year.
You know.
1461
01:35:41,500 --> 01:35:44,400
I didn't know if I could do it
the first time actually, I mean
1462
01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:47,400
right.
Which is but it was it was a
1463
01:35:47,407 --> 01:35:49,800
little, it was surprising.
Actually we mentioned that
1464
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,700
before like I didn't I didn't I
didn't really think about it.
1465
01:35:53,700 --> 01:35:58,400
I didn't anticipate having a
problem but ma'am.
1466
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:05,100
I know when I went to, you know,
we cut its throat, you know, to
1467
01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:11,900
slaughter it but that was it
took a long time for me to get
1468
01:36:11,900 --> 01:36:16,400
up the Courage, you know I guess
I've got of Courage is the right
1469
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:21,300
word but just the strength to do
it and then and then the loss
1470
01:36:21,300 --> 01:36:24,500
that I felt was just palpable
to.
1471
01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:26,300
Yeah.
Yeah.
1472
01:36:26,300 --> 01:36:31,600
And Again, I think that's
designed for a reason, right?
1473
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:37,600
That's that's to show you if you
feel this way about Nana,
1474
01:36:39,700 --> 01:36:44,200
Imagine essentially, having
offer up your own firstborn, who
1475
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:48,500
did nothing wrong.
Yeah, lived the perfect life.
1476
01:36:48,700 --> 01:36:49,900
Yeah.
Yeah.
1477
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:56,000
I have my, until till my, when
my kids are young.
1478
01:36:57,900 --> 01:37:00,300
I don't really, you know, when
they're really little, I don't
1479
01:37:00,300 --> 01:37:02,000
really want him out there,
right?
1480
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,800
It's hard to understand.
But, but as soon as they're
1481
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,900
eight, That before that if
they're interested they can come
1482
01:37:08,900 --> 01:37:11,200
watch.
But after they turn 8, they're
1483
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,100
required.
Like you have to see what is
1484
01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:19,700
being done on your behalf.
Now, you are now that you're old
1485
01:37:19,700 --> 01:37:22,300
enough that you're going to be
accountable, you need to
1486
01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:26,400
understand and I think that's a,
that's a powerful image, you
1487
01:37:26,407 --> 01:37:28,000
know.
Absolutely.
1488
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:34,000
It is. yeah, and I hunted for a
long time.
1489
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:35,900
I stopped talking about 5 years
ago.
1490
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:41,100
And mainly because I got lazy.
I'll admit that the last time I
1491
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:44,000
woke up in October to a foot of
snow up in the mountains, I'm
1492
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,700
like, yeah, what are we doing
here?
1493
01:37:46,700 --> 01:37:51,100
What are we doing?
But No matter how many times I
1494
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:53,600
went hunting.
There's still that twinge.
1495
01:37:53,600 --> 01:38:00,500
I mean there's still that that
feeling and I think that's how
1496
01:38:00,500 --> 01:38:01,900
he looks good.
Yeah, I think it's healthy.
1497
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,900
Yeah, I think that's healthy.
I think, I think it does two
1498
01:38:04,900 --> 01:38:07,700
things.
You become truly grateful for
1499
01:38:07,700 --> 01:38:12,600
that animal.
You, you become truly grateful.
1500
01:38:12,700 --> 01:38:16,100
The idea that this is something
anyone would take joy or
1501
01:38:16,100 --> 01:38:19,400
pleasure and is a silly.
Silly thing.
1502
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,800
Now I'm sure that there are
those and them, I would question
1503
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,700
ever having them around my kids.
But yeah.
1504
01:38:25,700 --> 01:38:27,900
So this isn't something that's
taken lightly.
1505
01:38:27,900 --> 01:38:31,400
And I could tell by the way, you
know, you look that that's
1506
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:32,900
something.
You take pretty seriously and
1507
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,100
weighs on you.
Yeah, absolutely.
1508
01:38:35,900 --> 01:38:39,100
So anyway, we usually have a
usually start.
1509
01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:42,900
Those kind of an all day thing,
will have people show up the
1510
01:38:42,907 --> 01:38:45,800
house around noon, and then
there's all kinds of
1511
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:50,200
preparations, cutting up
vegetables. and we have a big
1512
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:55,100
with the kitchen turns into a
big matzo making factory
1513
01:38:55,400 --> 01:39:02,100
basically mix up dough and roll
it out flat and Bake it or
1514
01:39:02,108 --> 01:39:03,900
cookie tin pans, or things like
that.
1515
01:39:03,900 --> 01:39:08,100
And so I mean we just cook
hundreds of pieces of matzah and
1516
01:39:08,500 --> 01:39:11,000
people are chopping up
vegetables and getting tables
1517
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:15,700
set, people are outside you know
skinning and gutting and
1518
01:39:15,700 --> 01:39:20,400
roasting the lamb and so it's
kind of a production and it's an
1519
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,900
all-day thing and it's It's
great.
1520
01:39:22,900 --> 01:39:26,700
So, that's what we do to
celebrate, basically.
1521
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,400
And then, of course, and then we
actually just eat matzah the
1522
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:37,100
whole week, you know, right.
So yeah, it's good.
1523
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:42,200
We are this year.
We're actually going to there's
1524
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:48,500
a lady in the ward, where I
live, who's has this enormous
1525
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:53,100
nativity set, Collection.
Hmm.
1526
01:39:53,800 --> 01:40:01,200
So on the evening of April 5th,
we're going to have the Seder
1527
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:05,600
and all of that and then the
morning of April 6th.
1528
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,100
We're going to go look at all
these neat.
1529
01:40:09,100 --> 01:40:11,800
She's going to set out a these
nativity sets for us to come.
1530
01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:15,100
Now, you look at, so that would
be really fun.
1531
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:19,200
That's awesome.
Well, dude, it's good stuff.
1532
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,300
Yeah, yeah, no.
I one other thing I will say is
1533
01:40:22,300 --> 01:40:30,200
that this first fruits, this
like I said, it's on, I
1534
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:35,800
subscribe to the Care Act idea,
which is also the sadducee idea,
1535
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,400
which is that it's supposed to
be on the Sunday during.
1536
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:40,700
Okay, leavened bread.
Okay.
1537
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:45,200
So actually, I just remembered
something else I want to
1538
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:46,900
mention.
This is a nice segue into it.
1539
01:40:47,100 --> 01:40:52,500
But this actually, this is this
is Easter right?
1540
01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:58,800
Easter is not always, but almost
always the Sunday during
1541
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:00,800
Passover.
The Feast of unleavened bread.
1542
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,200
Yeah, yeah.
If you swing, we're sorry, yes,
1543
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,300
too big to be precise to which
is, which is in common parlance
1544
01:41:06,300 --> 01:41:08,700
often called Passover week of
Passover.
1545
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:16,600
So that's fine. now, interesting
thing about that though, is the
1546
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,900
At the council.
I mean, this goes to, this goes
1547
01:41:21,900 --> 01:41:23,600
to the great apostasy here.
We talk about the great
1548
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,100
apostasy.
We're going straight to the
1549
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:29,700
next, ER, yeah, yeah.
So 325 Council in nicaea
1550
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:36,900
Constantine is presiding and one
of the big things that they
1551
01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:40,600
attempt to accomplish here.
Well, let me back up here.
1552
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,800
When, you know, when Mormons
talk about the great apostasy,
1553
01:41:44,300 --> 01:41:45,700
there's a couple of parts to it,
right?
1554
01:41:45,700 --> 01:41:49,100
One is, there's like physical.
Incubation.
1555
01:41:49,300 --> 01:41:54,100
And, you know, the apostles are
being killed off and, you know,
1556
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:56,700
maybe other other priesthood
leaders, right?
1557
01:41:56,700 --> 01:42:01,200
So there's this interruption in
the transmission of priesthood
1558
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,800
priesthood.
And then, the other thing that
1559
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:08,900
we often talk about is this this
corrupting influence of pagan,
1560
01:42:08,900 --> 01:42:14,000
Greek, Greek, Pagan, and
philosophical ideas, corrupting
1561
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:17,800
Doctrine, and things like that.
The thing that we don't talk
1562
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:22,500
about those, Is that there was
there was an intentional and
1563
01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:28,000
this happened at Nicea which was
the first the first Council as
1564
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:32,700
far as I know like the first
church Council, but one of their
1565
01:42:32,700 --> 01:42:38,400
goals was we got to figure out
how to get rid of all of this
1566
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:42,000
Israelite stuff.
That is encumbering the church
1567
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:46,800
and we want the church to be
non-israelite as possible.
1568
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:49,800
We want to have nothing.
Thing in common with those
1569
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,500
detestable Jews.
And so we're going to calculate
1570
01:42:53,500 --> 01:42:55,000
Easter a different.
We're going to we're not going
1571
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:58,000
to rely on the Jewish calendar
to calculate Eastern, although
1572
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,800
they basically came up with a
different way to calculate it.
1573
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,700
That ends up being equivalent
pretty close.
1574
01:43:03,900 --> 01:43:09,500
Yeah, but but yeah, there was
the Jew, any of the any Jewish
1575
01:43:09,500 --> 01:43:12,000
Bishops and there were still at
this time, they were still
1576
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:17,200
Jewish Bishops, they were all
excluded from the council.
1577
01:43:18,100 --> 01:43:24,800
And they made these decisions to
intentionally get rid of Jewish
1578
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,900
ideas.
And one of them was the, the
1579
01:43:26,900 --> 01:43:30,900
observance of Passover.
This was actually a big part of
1580
01:43:30,900 --> 01:43:36,600
the apostasy that eventually
became Catholicism, is we need
1581
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,900
to root out these.
There's these Christians are
1582
01:43:39,900 --> 01:43:44,900
still observing Passover and the
Feast of unleavened bread and we
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01:43:44,900 --> 01:43:46,700
do not want them to do that
anymore.
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01:43:48,500 --> 01:43:52,000
And you know, we're going to
we're going to celebrate Easter
1585
01:43:52,700 --> 01:43:56,500
and eventually, you know, this,
this turns into egg-laying
1586
01:43:56,500 --> 01:43:59,000
rabbits and you're celebrating
right.
1587
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,600
Resurrection.
Which is just so weird but but
1588
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:06,800
we'd rather have that and
anything to do with Exodus and
1589
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,700
right and the symbolism involved
there.
1590
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:16,300
And the there were kind of
holdouts, I think early
1591
01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:19,800
Christians who continue to sin.
Celebrate this up until about
1592
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:25,000
400 ad when the church is
finally able to stamp it out
1593
01:44:25,900 --> 01:44:28,400
from being practiced in
Christianity.
1594
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:34,100
So, so when I look at keeping
the these feasts and Passover in
1595
01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:36,000
particular, like I just consider
it.
1596
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:41,000
As part of the restoration and
this is like, pushing back like
1597
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:46,200
undoing the things that were
done as part of apostasy the
1598
01:44:46,208 --> 01:44:49,600
great apostasy.
So are we?
1599
01:44:49,700 --> 01:44:55,000
There's no that's awesome.
I had again, my good buddy whose
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01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:59,000
dad was a rabbi.
He told me because I was really
1601
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:01,800
concerned, right?
I was thinking when I was first
1602
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,500
thinking about, you know, these
feasts and that sort of thing.
1603
01:45:04,500 --> 01:45:09,000
When I lived in Maryland, I was
always super nervous because I
1604
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:13,600
didn't want to, I wouldn't want
somebody creeping into the
1605
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,500
temple.
Who wasn't supposed to be there.
1606
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,600
Likewise I didn't want to be
that guy.
1607
01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:20,200
Creeping in on somebody else's
tradition, that shouldn't be
1608
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:25,500
there to my surprise, even
Joel's dad was like, no, we
1609
01:45:25,500 --> 01:45:29,400
welcome it.
He's like, can we join us?
1610
01:45:29,700 --> 01:45:36,000
Yeah, I mean, my first, my first
seder was was at his house homey
1611
01:45:36,300 --> 01:45:40,200
and, and I'm so glad I got to do
it and he explained it.
1612
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,200
He was like, no, no, he's like
if you're a Christian, if you
1613
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,600
profess to follow Christ.
Why wouldn't you do this?
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01:45:46,300 --> 01:45:49,000
He's like, okay.
Well, Oh, that's a very why
1615
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,700
wouldn't you do this?
That was Jesus is religion, was
1616
01:45:51,700 --> 01:45:53,100
it not?
Absolutely.
1617
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,900
And I was like, well, yeah, you
know you got a point.
1618
01:45:55,900 --> 01:46:00,500
So I think sometimes we feel
like, well, that's there's this
1619
01:46:00,500 --> 01:46:05,700
is ours and I think it's like
you were saying a hangover from
1620
01:46:06,500 --> 01:46:08,900
from from the apostasy.
Absolutely.
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01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:13,100
Yeah.
And there's one more thing I
1622
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:19,400
want to bring up is that
Passover, Passover is a part of
1623
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:23,400
the restoration to not just in
not just keeping the Seder like
1624
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,100
I like is I mean we don't really
have evidence that Joe Smith,
1625
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:34,100
kept a Seder for example, right?
But but the imagery of Passover
1626
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:37,700
is embedded in the fabric of the
restoration.
1627
01:46:37,700 --> 01:46:40,600
So ancient lie.
We talked about Israel being
1628
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:45,900
born as a nation on Passover.
That That happened again.
1629
01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:50,400
That was Passover, is the day.
The church was re-established,
1630
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:59,700
April, 6th, 1830.
The April 6th 1830 was the 13th
1631
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:04,700
of the first month but they, the
meeting was into the evening, so
1632
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,600
it was on the 14th.
It was on Passover.
1633
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:13,500
Now, when the church was
re-established in, he's okay.
1634
01:47:13,900 --> 01:47:17,000
And then There's another
interesting thing that's part of
1635
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:24,800
the Seder and this is kind of a
mysterious thing, but when but
1636
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:28,000
you Mormons will appreciate the
symbolism here, is that there's
1637
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:32,000
always this place at the table
left for Elijah, right?
1638
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:38,700
Right.
And the it's interesting because
1639
01:47:38,700 --> 01:47:44,300
there's in are in the standard
works, there's one prophecy that
1640
01:47:44,300 --> 01:47:49,500
is Repeated in all of them and
it's only 11 prophecy and that
1641
01:47:49,500 --> 01:47:52,700
is the great.
And Dreadful day of the Lord,
1642
01:47:53,500 --> 01:47:58,700
when Elijah will come to turn
the hearts of the father's to
1643
01:47:58,700 --> 01:48:00,200
the children and the children to
their fathers.
1644
01:48:00,500 --> 01:48:02,900
That's something you li zhiting.
Like it's one of his missions
1645
01:48:02,900 --> 01:48:06,400
and that's repeated in the
Bible, the doctrine covenants,
1646
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,800
the pro great price and the Book
of Mormon whole have that
1647
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,800
process, right heated.
So you Mormons are look, I
1648
01:48:13,808 --> 01:48:17,600
appreciate that too, but that
symbolism and so, yeah, they'll
1649
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:22,300
They'll have a they'll have the
table set and the family will be
1650
01:48:22,300 --> 01:48:25,700
sitting around the table but
there will be a gap, right?
1651
01:48:26,300 --> 01:48:28,200
Where Elijah is place will be
set.
1652
01:48:28,700 --> 01:48:35,000
And you know a Mormon looking at
that might might think about
1653
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,400
ceiling.
I'm like, oh look if a lot when
1654
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:41,300
Elijah comes than that, actually
completes the family, right?
1655
01:48:42,900 --> 01:48:48,300
So Now that prophecy about the
Elijah coming that was film
1656
01:48:48,300 --> 01:48:49,800
incur fulfilled in Kirtland,
right?
1657
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:50,700
Yeah.
Yeah.
1658
01:48:50,700 --> 01:48:57,200
The the Old Testament doesn't
Doesn't have time associated
1659
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,200
with that.
But for some reason and I don't
1660
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:03,300
know the reasons for this but
for some reason that in the
1661
01:49:03,308 --> 01:49:06,400
Jewish mind has been associated
with Pat, they were looking for
1662
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:10,300
that to occur at Passover time
Feast of unleavened bread.
1663
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:17,100
And yes, you're right.
So, April 3rd, 18 was at 32.
1664
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:20,900
I don't remember.
I believe it was 32.
1665
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:23,600
Let's see, I can actually, I
could be wrong.
1666
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:29,100
Let me just look up real quick,
but anyway, yeah, right, the,
1667
01:49:29,700 --> 01:49:33,700
the dedication of the Kirtland
Temple.
1668
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:43,200
Elijah comes and That's good.
Hmm, oh gosh.
1669
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:49,600
Well it doesn't matter.
I'm just looking here through
1670
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:53,200
the Seder there's a couple other
things I want to mention that
1671
01:49:53,800 --> 01:50:01,700
are just kind of cool here.
It is. 1836 April 30 1836?
1672
01:50:03,900 --> 01:50:06,900
Okay another one.
Another big one is that the
1673
01:50:06,900 --> 01:50:11,300
Passover is When you when you're
slaughtering lamb, you're not
1674
01:50:11,300 --> 01:50:14,900
allowed to break any bones.
Hmm.
1675
01:50:15,100 --> 01:50:20,800
And Jesus fulfilled, this too,
because when he was crucified,
1676
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:27,600
he actually the the Roman
soldier came to break his legs,
1677
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:32,400
to make sure that it was done.
But decided to poke him with a
1678
01:50:32,407 --> 01:50:36,000
spear instead and, and he was
dead already.
1679
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:37,500
And so, I know bones were
broken.
1680
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:42,700
So this was fulfillment of that,
the Passover ritual as well.
1681
01:50:43,100 --> 01:50:47,500
So, Way amazing stuff.
So, yeah.
1682
01:50:47,500 --> 01:50:52,500
So we have those those other
fulfillments in as part of the
1683
01:50:52,508 --> 01:50:57,400
restoration, these the
establishment of the church, the
1684
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,400
birth of the Latter-day church
and the the visit of Elijah.
1685
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:04,000
They're so pretty cool stuff.
That's awesome.
1686
01:51:04,500 --> 01:51:09,200
So that book, the Haggadah, the
Haggadah is that available
1687
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,800
online somewhere.
You can get them online.
1688
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:17,100
This one is what this one is.
One that That my father put
1689
01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:20,300
together, okay?
He edited and compiled, this and
1690
01:51:20,300 --> 01:51:27,900
then and then I've kind of added
to it since and added some extra
1691
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,600
added recipes to the back and
stuff for the matzah and other
1692
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:36,200
things.
So, but if you, if you'd like a
1693
01:51:36,208 --> 01:51:37,700
copy, I'll leave this one with
you.
1694
01:51:38,500 --> 01:51:42,100
Oh, thank you!
I have Kevin Kraut Prince.
1695
01:51:42,100 --> 01:51:46,000
These for me.
Oh, does he if One wants a copy
1696
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:52,800
of my hagaddah, you just go to.
Old Pioneer Press in Santaquin
1697
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:57,200
Utah, and Kevin crowd.
Look, I've got some some haroset
1698
01:51:57,200 --> 01:52:00,500
on there that someone spilled.
It's all good, it's all good.
1699
01:52:01,100 --> 01:52:04,600
And ask ask if you can, if he'd
print out, a copy of Joshua,
1700
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:06,800
Erickson's nice, Passover,
seder.
1701
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,100
And you'll know exactly what
you're talking about.
1702
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:15,200
Yeah, dude, I'll tell you what
as we went through these I'm
1703
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:22,600
continually amazed at how many.
Episodes in the restoration
1704
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:27,000
historically, just continue to
land on these days over and over
1705
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:30,400
and over.
Is definitely using his calendar
1706
01:52:30,500 --> 01:52:31,600
still.
Yep.
1707
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:34,200
Absolutely.
Whether we whether we want to
1708
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,200
admit it or not whether we are
aware.
1709
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:37,400
Yep.
Yes, right.
1710
01:52:37,500 --> 01:52:42,000
And and when I think it also
speaks to this idea of there's
1711
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,600
some responsibility if you're
going to call yourself Israel.
1712
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:51,500
There are there are things that
are required of you and even if
1713
01:52:51,500 --> 01:52:55,700
you think that you don't want to
do those things.
1714
01:52:56,700 --> 01:52:59,500
If you're really committed,
you'll find yourself there.
1715
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,700
Yeah, whether you want to or
not.
1716
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:04,200
Yeah.
And that's just just kind of the
1717
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:09,300
way it is.
And Yeah, I'm just continually
1718
01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:13,900
amazed at the Precision at which
it's all ages.
1719
01:53:13,900 --> 01:53:18,900
All unfolded to stay in in
lockstep with them.
1720
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,100
So, in this was the last one of
these, right?
1721
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:24,200
They'll one more.
What weeks yet?
1722
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:25,300
Feast of Weeks.
Okay.
1723
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:28,900
Also write, as Shavuot also
known as Pentecost.
1724
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:31,400
Nice.
Nice.
1725
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:35,300
All right.
We miss anything, anything think
1726
01:53:35,300 --> 01:53:39,200
that's, there's much more that
we could talk about as far as
1727
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:41,400
details.
But this is, this is a good
1728
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:44,300
overview.
Awesome, all right, well dude,
1729
01:53:45,500 --> 01:53:48,600
as always I appreciate it.
Pleasure, bye everybody.
1730
01:54:02,500 --> 01:54:05,800
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