Episode #40: Instalment 4 Of The Jewish Calendar Series: Hanukkah W/Joshua Erickson

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On this episode of the podcast,
I have Joshua Erickson back on

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to continue our series on the
Jewish calendar and feast days.

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Now, as always, I strongly
recommend that if you haven't

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listened to the previous
episodes in this series, you go

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back and do that.
First, the reason is that these

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celebrations build on top of
each other.

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Those episodes would be numbers.
27 28 and 30 this time around

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Joshua Erickson.
I break down Hanukkah, we dive

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into the history of the festival
and how it is celebrated today

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as we discuss discuss these
things there are fascinating

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ties to Joseph Smith as well as
some pretty Stark Parallels for

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our day, concerning Mormonism,
and even some fundamentalist

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Well Joshua man.
Thanks for coming back on again.

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Glad to be here.
Repeat.

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So don't don't worry about that.

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I'll feel free to come down
anytime.

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So we're going to talk about
Hanukkah today.

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Everything in me, it was so hard
not to want to play the the

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Hanukkah Song by m Sandler
before we got started.

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But real quick, is this is this
kind of a last holiday in the

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Jewish calendar.
The know the last one is going

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to be premium, so Kareem okay,
yep before before the new year

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which is before the the
ecclesiastical New Year, which

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is the first month when pack
when Passover is, so Kareem is

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the is the last gacha gacha.
So we got one more to do after

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this.
I'm looking forward to.

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That's right.
Well, that were then we'll

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start.
I have no idea what that is.

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So that one will be really cool.
Okay.

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Yeah, I have a little bit of an
idea on on what Hanukkah is, but

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probably not as much as you.
So what's the history of

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Hanukkah history of Hanukkah?
So this, there's a the Old

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Testament stops about 400 years
before the New Testament again.

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So there's this gap, which is
called by historians the

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intertestamental period and
Hanukkah, the story of Hanukkah

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occur, In this intertestamental
period.

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It's actually, you know, to go
back to Nebuchadnezzar's Vision,

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he has this voted this his
dream, right?

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Where he sees the statue, with
the gold head, and the silver

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arms and chest, and the brass
belly and thighs, and then the

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legs of iron.
And then the feet that are iron

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mixed with Clay, okay?
And this story story of Hanukkah

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takes place in with the belly
and the thighs of brass really.

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So was the bellies in the in the
thighs of brass with those

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represent and that represents
the kingdom of Greece.

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Okay?
So all of these, all of these

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things that Nebuchadnezzar saw
in Daniel interpreted, these are

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all kingdoms that were going to
occupy Jerusalem.

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Basically at one point or
another and start out with

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Nebuchadnezzar.
He was the head of gold which

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was Babylon.
And then The the two, the two

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silver arms were the medes and
the Persians, okay?

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And then, who conquered Babylon
and then, and then they were

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conquered in turn by Greece,
which was the brass and then

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Greece was interned, conquered
by Rome, of course, which was

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the iron.
And so we Hanukkah takes place

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during that that time of Grecian
occupancies, right?

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So the old Estimate kind of, we
get into the Babylonian

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captivity, and then in the Book
of Daniel, he talks about the

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medes, and the Persians are
there as well.

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But then, the Old Testament goes
quiet and then we pick it back

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up with Rome being in charge of
the Holy Land, right?

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So we kind of skip over the
brass part of the sculpture.

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Yeah, we don't hear a lot about
the Grecian occupation and I

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mean, really realistically,
unless you've gotten into the

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book of Maccabees or something
like that, it's almost it's

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strange in the sense that
especially to the Christian

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world and I would love Mormons
in with that there.

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It's almost a forgotten time
period for us.

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It is.
And the reason the reason why

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that is is because Christians
especially Protestants, only

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Protestants have deleted the
Apocrypha from the Bible, right?

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So I guess I should say a little
bit about About the Apocrypha.

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Because the Apocrypha actually
comes about as far as we know

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during this time, most of most
of the Bible's that we had the

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King James version and the NIV
and the nasb and a bunch of kind

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of modern translations, may be
all modern, all the major modern

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translations anyway, they
translate from What's called the

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master Vedic texts, which is the
Hebrew version of the, the Old

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Testament and and it's actually
surprisingly recent.

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So when you think about the
Hebrew Bible, I mean this thing

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is a is thousands of years old
but the copy that everything is

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translated from is basically
goes back to the Leningrad cone.

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It codex, Leningrad codex was
made.

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Sometime around 1000.
Wow, ad and so all our all our

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Bibles, go to this.
Source that was compiled in 1000

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ad.
So this this Grecian occupation

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of the Holy Land.
Is this just is it Alexander?

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The Great who is yeah?
Started with Alexander.

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That's right.
Alexander was pretty amazing.

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He actually had his father was
Philip Of Macedonia and Philip

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had a few wives, I think,
Alexander was from his fourth

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wife, but when, when she
conceived, she actually had this

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Vision like in a dream in a
dream lightning bolt like struck

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her stomach wow and from and
from her stomach came this fire

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that like burned the whole world
and then faded away, you know?

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And which course you Alexander
It's a lot to live up to as a

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kid shoes.
Yeah, yeah, big shoes to fill.

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So Philip was murdered if I
remember right?

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And Alexander came to power when
he was just 20 years old and his

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father had his father had
aspirations to make to expand

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the Grecian Empire and had those
aspirations for his son

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Alexander and he filled.
You filled those shoes, very

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proficiently, let's say
Alexander was amazing.

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Now, it Maccabees which talks
about this Grecian occupation,

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if I'm not mistaken, it wasn't
the primary guy who was ruling

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the place that time though,
wasn't Alexander.

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It was a guy named after Caius,
epiphanies right?

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Boo, right in my house.
And when they do, when anytime,

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someone says Antiochus epiphanes
and everyone, everyone says,

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boo, we do that here because if
usually it's with Woodrow

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Wilson.
Oh yeah, but yes but so So

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Alexander, he conquers the Holy
Land, Alexander conquers a lot

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of ground.
I mean he's he's out this this

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is not a homebody.
This guy is out there and he's

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trying, he's going to town, but
it's in my estimation.

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He was pretty hands-off with the
local population during his

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time, right?
Alexander's time.

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He was actually, as far as
Emperor's go was a fairly good

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guy, right?
Yeah.

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Josie.
Four chords his entrance into

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the holy land.
And the people in Jerusalem, the

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Jews, they They knew that they
were going to be incorporated.

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Yeah, into the Grecian Kingdom
Empire and so, there's not

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really any use in putting up a
fight, and they decided just to

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submit instead, and when
Alexander approached Jerusalem,

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basically, the high priest whose
name was Jay Doha at the time,

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he's, you know, they can't, the
plan was, everyone is going to,

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we're all Going to be fasting
and praying and everyone's going

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to put on their white clothes.
Everyone's going to go out to

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the streets and like, you know,
just bow down and welcome

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Alexander with with celebration
and stuff.

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And so, Alexander goes through
the streets and he's just met by

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you.
All these people dressed in

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white and welcoming him and he
gets up to the temple and the

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high priest comes out and he's
all dressed in his Priestly

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garments as well.
And the high priest wore a crown

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on his turban that said,
Holiness to the Lord across it,

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and go in on a gold plate, that
would he wear on his head and

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Alexander when he saw the high
priest wearing that then was

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brought to his mind, his memory
about, like a dream that he had.

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He had had a dream that when he
saw that, that the high priest

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come out like he was supposed
to, like, respect these people.

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And so so he so he just totally
spared them and there was no no

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Bloodshed or anything.
And he basically like supported

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the temple there.
He's like I'm going to, I'm

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going to contribute to the work
you're doing and everything went

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really well under Alexander.
Now he he died at a young age.

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Took him.
He was 32 or 33.

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I think can't remember
basically.

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He said, he, he became king at
20 and started his campaign.

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Is worldwide Campaign, which
took about a decade?

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You basically conquered the
whole Known World and was

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basically undefeated in battle.
And this is actually the cool

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thing about about hanukkah's.
There's, it's not one of the

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thought one of the feasts that
the Lord commands Israel to keep

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you like Passover and
Tabernacles and so on.

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But it is talked about in the
Old Testament, most notably in

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the Book of Daniel, right?
So I'm going to read just a

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little bit about Daniel here or
from Daniel.

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This is in Daniel chapter 8.
Let's see.

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Sorry, so I lift up, this is
Daniel speaking, I looked at my

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eyes, he's having this Vision, I
saw and there stood before the

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river, a ram, which had two
horns, and the two horns were

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high, but one was higher than
the other and the higher came up

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last.
And so, he actually goes on

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later on to an interpretation of
this dream is given, and the

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ram, this is in verse 20, the
round, which thou saw'st having

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two horns, are the Is a media
and Persia.

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So the medes and the Persians
and I saw the ramp pushing

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Westward and northward and
Southward.

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So that no beefs might stand
before him.

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Neither was there any that could
deliver out of his hand?

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But he did, according to his
will and became great.

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And as I was considering this
Ram, Behold, a he-goat came from

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the West, on the face of the
whole earth and touched not the

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ground.
And the Goat had a notable horn

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between his eyes and he came to
the ram that had two horns,

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which I had seen standing before
the river and the ram said unto

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him ran into him in the fury of
his power.

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And I saw him come close onto
the RAM and he was moved with

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caller against him and smote the
RAM and break his two horns.

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And there was no power in the
ram to stand before him.

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But he cast him down to the
ground and stamped upon him.

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And there was at none that could
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therefore the goat waxed.
Very Great.

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And when he was strong, the
Great Horn was broken and for it

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came up four notable ones
towards the Four Winds of

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heaven.
So, later on in verse 21 says,

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the rough, goat is the king of
Grisha and the Great Horn that

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is between his eyes, is the
first king.

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This is, this is Alexander the
Great, okay?

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He was the goat was Greece, and
the horn, the one horn that the

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goat had was Alexander and he
Says, he flew across the world,

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like, it looked like the goat
was flying, because his feet

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didn't even touch the ground and
this is the way that Alexander

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conquered the world basically,
but but he died at the young

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age.
He was he came down with some

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kind of sickness historians
speculate whether that was some

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natural illness or whether he'd
been poisoned, right?

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We don't know, but he died and
when he died basically, the

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kingdom was split into four
parts which is which Daniel

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predicts here.
Says, the one horn was broken

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off and then four horns came up
in its place.

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So is it an antique is
epiphanies?

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He's out.
Yes.

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Well, he's comes next and out of
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little horn, which waxed
exceedingly, great toward, the

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South, and toward the East, and
toward the pleasant land, and a

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wax.
Great.

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Even to the host of heaven and
cast down some of the host and

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of the Stars to the ground and
stamped upon them.

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Yay.
Yeah, he magnified himself even

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to the prince of host and by
him, the daily sacrifice was

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taken away and the place of his
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And it goes on and says in verse
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Talks about the transgression of
desolation and how long would

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the sanctuary be trodden Under
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And and this is this is talking
about Antiochus epiphanes.

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So he he was so the four
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were basically Syria.
Okay, which is where Antiochus

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comes from and then there was
Egypt and then there was turkey

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and Greece.
Okay.

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So Antichrist Tiffany's not not
Grecian, he's Syria.

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Well, it's the, it's the Greek
Syrian Empire.

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Okay.
So and then in Egypt, it was the

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Greek Egyptian like he was the
land of Egypt but under Greek

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control.
Okay?

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So Alexander he comes through
and he just basically cleans up.

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I mean, nobody really stands a
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In fact, like dominoes.
Yeah, and, and real really, I

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from my understanding about the
time he's halfway done most

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other Kingdoms are like, you
know, he seems cool as long as

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we don't screw with him.
So let's just let's just

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understand this is happening and
then let's see if we can't just

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play nice with him and then
maybe he will play nice which

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seems to be that he did right to
the point.

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He leaves the Jews alone in
Jerusalem and says you do your

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thing.
You're going to pay your taxes

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to me.
But other than that, I'm going

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to leave you alone.
Yeah, so so yeah.

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So it goes along well there,
then he, Dies and it's amazing.

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This is all foretold by
scripture to I think that's

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really cool.
See it is amazing.

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And then from there Antiochus
epiphanes comes into play.

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That's right.
And let's talk about him a

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little bit, what's his deal?
He's he's really bad man.

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He actually and he has a as many
of these Emperor's do.

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He has a God, complex and his
name is His name is Antiochus,

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which is the name of his father,
but like, the, the title that he

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takes on is Theos epiphanies for
which is and just epiphanies for

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short, but his name is
Antiochus, God manifest, like

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God has appeared.
That was that was his, that was

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his Antiochus, the God has
appeared.

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That was the name that he gave
himself.

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You know, I thought about guys
like that and the one thing I'll

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say is they have to be motivated
because again, that's a lot to

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live up to, right now.
Yeah.

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I have no desire to be that,
that worshipful, but I do find

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it interesting that this same
pattern emerges time and time

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again, which is you might have
one really benevolent really

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good king, or leader that really
loves his people.

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But there's no guarantee about
that.

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Second one, a man, right.
And so I I wanted to point that

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out because it's something that
we continue to see, right?

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Absolutely.
Is that the one guy might might

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be totally cool, but the guy
behind him.

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Well, that guy we don't know.
And that could be bad.

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That is the reason we don't give
the good guy right.

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Power.
Exactly.

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Exactly.
If we can help it.

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Absolutely.
There's only been a couple of

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guys, I can think of that took
that kind of power and then

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returned, it one was Washington
and then the other was was, and

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Lincoln didn't even go fully
back, but he gave most of it

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back after the Civil War.
And so those men are extremely

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Only rare.
And once that power gets in

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stolen somebody it's there
forever and you can see that

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learn by sad experience.
Yeah.

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And drink this position.
We can see that with Antiochus

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epiphanes booty so he comes into
power.

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When does he start really
messing with with the

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Israelites?
Yeah, he, you know, this is this

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story takes place in the 160s
BC, so He is.

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He has.
He has Ambitions actually, all

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of these, all of these generals,
the four generals that these

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four kingdoms, that kind of come
out of Alexander's.

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Greece, they all fight with each
other for Supremacy constantly

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generation after generation.
They're having Wars with each

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other.
Trying to kind of put back

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together, Alexander's Kingdom,
which never happens.

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And eventually Rome comes along
and puts a big no pain, the

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whole thing and Rome doesn't
Rome does succeed.

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But, but, you know, these little
greek smaller Greek kingdoms,

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they never do so, Antiochus,
epiphanes.

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He's he's got Egypt in his
sights and of course about

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between Syria in the North.
And then Egypt in the South.

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The Kingdom of Israel is is
right there in between.

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And so and sometimes sometimes,
you know, the Greek Egyptians in

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the, you know, they are in.
Hard.

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And sometimes the Syrian Greeks
are in charge and eat and

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Israel's kind of back and forth
there.

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And Daniel talks about that to.
He talks about the King of the

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North and the King of the South
and these.

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All right, intrigues that are
going to happen there.

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So he's so Antiochus, is
actually goes down to Egypt and

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He actually beats up on Ptolemy,
who's the king in Egypt.

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All of the, all of the kings in
Egypt or name Ptolemy.

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So he beats him up and he goes
down again.

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Another time to to battle and
when he's down there, the second

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time I believe the skin of the
second campaign.

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He's down there.
There's a single Roman

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gentleman.
Who is it has a message from the

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Roman?
Senate and basically this single

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Roman messenger, basically tells
Antiochus We want you to leave

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Egypt and and and Egypt is no
longer going to be a concern of

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yours and we would like you to
tell us, give us your intentions

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towards Egypt.
You know, now that you know, our

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intentions and Antiochus says,
he'll have to discuss it with

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his counsel and the Roman guy
takes a stick or a sword or I

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don't know whatever and draws a
circle around and I guess in the

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sand and says before you leave
the circle, you will give an

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answer to the Roman senate and
Antiochus is not very happy

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about this but realizes that
He'll probably just leave Egypt

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alone from now on.
Yeah, because he really doesn't

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have a choice, right?
Because Rome is at the height of

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its power, and it's got a lot of
power.

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It's got money.
It can fund these excursions.

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That's right 44 in perpetuity
and so Aunt Kya is recognizing

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that the The Grecian Empire is
already fractured.

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He doesn't have the the
wherewithal to go toe-to-toe

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with Rome.
That's right, not at all.

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And so interesting thing is is
back.

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In Jerusalem at this time and
this is in.

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I believe this is in Second
Maccabees first and second

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Maccabees, they overlap in a lot
of there.

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Their storytelling.
So, let me just go there.

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All right, so I found it.
So it's in second Maccabees

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chapter 5.
It's interesting while Antiochus

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was down in Egypt, the folks up
in Jerusalem actually had this

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Collective vision and is
reported.

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I'll real just read it here.
This is the this is the good

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news translation of the
Apocrypha here.

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So about this time Antiochus,
the fourth made a second attack

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against Egypt for nearly forty
days.

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Days.
People all over Jerusalem saw

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visions of Cavalry troops in
gold armor charging across the

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sky.
The writers were armed with

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Spears and their swords were
drawn.

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They were lined up in battle
against one another attacking

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and counter-attacking shields
were clashing.

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There was a rain of Spears and
arrows flew through the air, all

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different kinds of armor, and
the golden bridles of the horses

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flashed in the sunlight and
everyone in the city prayed

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that, these Visions might be a
good sign.

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Hmm.
So the it's a, it's actually

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really interesting.
Vision.

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Now they didn't, they didn't
know what this meant, but there

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was, you know, when they said it
was a good sign.

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They hoped that, that meant,
that Antiochus was had been

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defeated right now.
Antiochus was kind of defeated,

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but he was certainly not killed,
and that was kind of the rumor

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that had gone on and, and when
Antiochus made his way back up,

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north, he found He found
Jerusalem kind of in disarray,

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and people were people weren't
necessarily celebrating, but

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there were, it was because of
the rumors of his death, there

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was kind of some riots and some
things happening in Jerusalem.

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And that did not make him happy
that that they kind of assume

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that he had been killed in
battle.

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So was he was he mistreating
Israel prior no to this episode.

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So so this is very much The
impetus for him being like he's

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in a bad mood from his
interaction with Rome, I was

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just going to say to put
everything into context, this is

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a guy who just got humiliated.
That's right.

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He's like I have my Army and my
Army is going to destroy

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something right and I've been
thwarted in Egypt.

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So so then he finds the Jews who
never really have a, at least

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since the time of David, a
really good standing army.

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Yeah, I've Didn't look at
ancient Israel, and thought they

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have a lot of great Special
Forces so to speak.

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We see that.
Yeah, where there's, they're

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small and stuff.
Yeah, they're small bands that

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are really good at kind of
counterinsurgency, sort of

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stuff.
But then you have, you don't

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have a standing army where
you're just going to go

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toe-to-toe with somebody and so
they're probably a good Target

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to take some of that frustration
out on ya.

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At least that's how Aunt Kya
says.

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Looking at it.
Like, it's exactly.

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I just got I just got humiliated
from this point forward.

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I'm ruling with an iron fist.
Yeah.

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Now he had started some of the
Mysteries.

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It's kind of a complicated story
because there was there was

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Greek interference and a Greek
oppression, which hadn't really

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started until this event.
But there was also this internal

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factions because there was,
there was A group of Jews who

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00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,900
were hellenized so they loved
Greek culture and were wanting

448
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,500
Israel to just become to fully
embrace.

449
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:30,100
The Greek NE some everything
just to assimilate to

450
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:32,100
assimilate, that's exactly the
word.

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And so the story of The
Maccabees and Hanukkah is on one

452
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,400
sense, an international thing
where they're fighting against

453
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,800
the Greeks, but there's also a
civil war that's going on

454
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,500
simultaneously.
Lee, they're fighting with each

455
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:53,700
other.
Over over whether or not to,

456
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:58,600
we're going to just accept Greek
customs and laws and abandon the

457
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,400
Torah, and the law, and the god
of our fathers.

458
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:05,800
So before we dive too much into
Maccabees and who they are,

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00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,700
let's set the set the stage for
what Antiochus epiphanes does.

460
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:16,600
What's the if you're if you're a
Torah believing Jew of that

461
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,400
time, what's Aunt?
Kya Vinnie's doing within Israel

462
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,700
Israeli Society.
So, at the up until this point

463
00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:30,100
there had been, like, said there
had not been the kind of overt

464
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:35,700
oppression, but there was all
kinds of Entry.

465
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:40,500
Actually, the, the high priest,
the position of high priest, and

466
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:43,900
the whole, the whole Jewish
priest had just became utterly

467
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:52,100
corrupt.
So there was actually the guy,

468
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:56,300
the guy who should have been The
guy who should have been the

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00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:58,200
high priest, his name is own, is
the third?

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00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:04,200
And he was actually deposed
there was a another guy named

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Jason.
His name is name was actually

472
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,200
Yeshua or Jesus.
Hmm.

473
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,100
But he changed his name to Jason
because he wants to be Greek and

474
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:18,100
he actually bribed or not
bribed.

475
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:22,300
But yeah, bribed I guess offered
anti his money if Antiochus

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00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:27,400
would forcibly give him Position
of high priest over Jerusalem,

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00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:33,300
so Antiochus did that and then
and then Jason was in charge and

478
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:37,800
he basically did not own is the
third was against the

479
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,200
hellenization and Jason was in
favor of it.

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00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,500
And so Jason kind of started to
do all the Greek things.

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00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:48,400
He built a gymnasium there, you
know where they would all play

482
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,000
their Olympic Games and Stuff in
the nude, you know, right.

483
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,400
Which is yeah.
And and In my reading and you

484
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,600
can correct me if I'm wrong.
This is a time where Epiphany

485
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,900
seems to be saying.
Look, you're going to Helen

486
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:08,100
eyes, you are going, not yet but
it is skidding to that it's

487
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,000
already.
Yeah, and you know this is kind

488
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,700
of, this is how I think this is.
This is how governments work

489
00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:18,200
right?
There's there's these social

490
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,100
changes that start to creep in
and when there's you know when

491
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:24,900
they get 50% support or
something, right?

492
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,100
Then they enforce it and that's
kind of what was happening that,

493
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:34,200
I guess you could say, is that
there was this not a required,

494
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:39,300
but just a naturally occurring
Trend in society to adopt

495
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:41,300
Hellenistic ways.
And then there's enough support

496
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:45,300
and also Antiochus is pissed off
at those who are not voluntarily

497
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:47,000
doing it.
That he says, we're going to

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00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,800
make this compulsory.
Yeah, one of the reasons I love

499
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:57,500
the story of The Maccabees.
Bees and Hanukkah is because I

500
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:01,700
think there are some echoes in
there, if not some direct talk

501
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,600
about protecting your beliefs.
Oh, absolutely.

502
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,700
And I find that we might be
coming to a time, that's very

503
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:15,900
similar in the sense of your,
you're going to adopt this new

504
00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,100
society.
And I think we need to look at

505
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:22,900
that Maccabees not necessarily
for their, for their violence.

506
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,700
But for their because I don't
think we're at that time yet,

507
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:30,300
right?
I want to make that very clear

508
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:34,500
but I think we do need to be
just as Resolute about holding

509
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:38,500
on to our culture and into our
God into our religion.

510
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:44,400
Because we're right there and we
saw that and this is why this

511
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,200
episode probably won't go on
YouTube, but we saw something

512
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,800
very similar with the the
vaccine mandate, right?

513
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,500
You're Going to comply?
Absolutely, you're going to

514
00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:58,700
comply.
Let's talk a little bit about

515
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:03,200
what Aunt Kya is does in terms
of the temple kosher dietary

516
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,700
laws, right?
Because I think there's some

517
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:12,600
significant parallels there, so
he just he kind of destroys,

518
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,900
well, there's some Intrigue
there between Jason, as I said,

519
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:21,200
who kind of bribed paid, you
know, paid for the position of

520
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,000
high priest.
He actually sends One of his

521
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,800
guys whose names Menelaus who's
not even of the tribe of Levi,

522
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:35,100
he's a benjamite sends him to go
make a payment and Menelaus

523
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:39,800
takes the opportunity to outbid
Jason and says, hey I've got all

524
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,100
this money plus.
I'll give you more when we go

525
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:45,100
back.
If you send soldiers back with

526
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:49,200
me and put me in as the high
priest, Antiochus says sounds

527
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,800
great, and they're part of the
part of the squabble that caused

528
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,300
that made on Tigers lose.
His temper was the squabble

529
00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:04,200
between Jason and Menelaus but
anyway, Antiochus puts Menelaus

530
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:09,800
in position as high priest and
then Menelaus in order to pay

531
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:13,500
the bribe that he had promised
goes into the temple and takes

532
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:17,000
some of the temple.
Treasures basically, to pay for

533
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:23,199
his new position as high priest.
Okay, now Antiochus is also

534
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:29,300
realizing that there's there's a
bunch of Jews and probably maybe

535
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:32,900
some people in other parts of
his kingdom who don't really

536
00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:36,699
like assimilating.
And so he makes a law that

537
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:42,300
everyone in my kingdom is going
to be Greek in their Customs,

538
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:47,199
you know, in their dress and in
their worship and everyone will

539
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:52,500
worship the same gods.
And, and he basically made this,

540
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:57,300
he, I mean, the the parallels
are our remarkable.

541
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:01,300
Because here, we have it a
tyrant who wants basically a One

542
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:02,700
World Government.
He wants.

543
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,700
He wants everyone to be good
Global Citizens.

544
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,900
Yep.
And the Jews say, we are not

545
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:11,100
going to do that.
Some of them.

546
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:15,000
Anyway, those who resist and he
says, yes, you will.

547
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,900
You will not do anything.
Detective Lee Jewish any, any

548
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,400
detectable any Detective, Lee
Jewish thing.

549
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,500
You do will be punished by death
and torture.

550
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:30,200
So yeah, you are not allowed to
keep the Sabbath.

551
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,000
You are not allowed to observe
Passover.

552
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000
You are not allowed to have the
scriptures with you.

553
00:35:35,008 --> 00:35:37,600
If you get caught with
scriptures, we will destroy

554
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,700
those and then torture and kill.
You're not allowed to circumcise

555
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:41,800
your children.
You're not allowed.

556
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,800
You must eat unclean things.
Not only that you must eat

557
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,900
unclean things that have been
offered to The Greek gods.

558
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:59,000
So like ee awful and it was and
he basically rained with blood

559
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:07,300
and horror to borrow a phrase
and and made a concerted effort

560
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:11,400
to Stamp Out the Jewish
religion.

561
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:16,400
Yeah, the people I read a book
and it wasn't like the book of

562
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,300
Maccabees but it was a book that
was kind of commentary.

563
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,600
On The Maccabees it was told
from a kind of like a story kind

564
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,900
of perspective.
Yeah.

565
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:30,600
And the things he does are
absolutely atrocious.

566
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,900
He bases the temple.
He didn't get to that.

567
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,400
Yeah.
I mean it's no.

568
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,100
No you're fine.
Yeah.

569
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:44,400
He it's it's awful because he
actually yeah the temple is also

570
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:50,000
also must be debased and he sets
up, you actually sets up he

571
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,600
actually captures the temple, on
the 15th of kislev, which is

572
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:02,000
the, the 9th biblical month and,
and then after he captures the

573
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:08,100
temple, he sets up a he sets up
an altar to Zeus like on top,

574
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:15,700
over over the altar to Jehovah
and and also inside the temple,

575
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:23,100
he sets up an idol to Zeus and
The accounts of it say that the

576
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:29,000
on this statue of Zeus actually
was a self-portrait of Antiochus

577
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:32,800
know, right?
He has amazing, which is, which

578
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,100
is all so.
So then on the 25th of kislev,

579
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:46,300
he he actually does what Daniel
calls and what Maccabees calls

580
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:52,100
the abomination of desolation.
And he actually offers swine to

581
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:58,900
Zeus on the altar in the temple
and then takes the blood of the

582
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,500
pig and spreads it in the holy
of holies and over everything in

583
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,200
the temple.
And you just totally defiles it.

584
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,700
And, and basically the temple,
the temple just becomes this

585
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:14,000
like bar and brothel.
Yeah, they set up like

586
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,400
prostitution, is there and these
have drinking parties and orgy.

587
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:23,800
Is that they just are just
praying and offering to these

588
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,900
idols and stuff in the temple.
And it's just everything is

589
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,900
everything is just utterly
filthy and defiled and desolate.

590
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:39,800
And so, so that is what that is,
what Daniel refers to.

591
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:43,400
I've said, as the abomination of
desolation, and Jesus talks

592
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,300
about this in the New Testament
and like, Matthew 24 before I

593
00:38:49,308 --> 00:38:52,000
get Get to that.
It's interesting thing about

594
00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:56,700
about the scriptures to you when
we we talk a lot, I think in our

595
00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:00,000
meetings and in our study and
you read commentaries and books

596
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,900
and stuff and there's a lot of
talk about types and shadows of

597
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:07,000
Christ.
And a lot of the a lot of the

598
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,800
ancient prophets pieces of their
life kind of match things that

599
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,600
the Savior would do.
You know, for example, you know,

600
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:24,600
if I if I if I say there was
this there's this promised child

601
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,400
that was born and there was a
wicked King who want to kill the

602
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,900
promised child.
So he killed all the killed all

603
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:36,600
the babies but but this chosen
child was saved by Going to

604
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,700
Egypt.
And then, who am I talking

605
00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:41,200
about?
You're right.

606
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,500
You're talking about Herod,
right?

607
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:45,700
Or or I'm talking about Moses,
right?

608
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:48,000
And the things that happened
with Pharaoh, right?

609
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,900
And Moses.
So Moses has infancy kind of

610
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,700
right mirrors, Jesus infancy,
right?

611
00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:59,700
So so Moses in that way, as a
type of Christ.

612
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,500
And so now, the scriptures talk
about the Antichrist as well,

613
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,500
the anti-messiah and And and
there are types and shadows of

614
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:12,400
the Antichrist as well.
And Antiochus, epiphanes is, is

615
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:18,600
that he is, perhaps the
strongest type and Shadow of the

616
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,700
true Antichrist.
Which is, which is Yet to Come,

617
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:25,500
And there are others to other
other types and shadows, and he

618
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:27,600
doesn't stop at just defiling
the temple.

619
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,100
He, I read one account where he
would go out to kind of the

620
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:36,200
outlying areas of Jerusalem,
Galilee being one of Of them and

621
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,900
like finding the rabbi and
cooking up a pig and being like,

622
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:42,700
you're going to eat this from
gonna kill your family.

623
00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:44,000
That's right.
Yeah.

624
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,000
And it's a is it is a kind of a
double-edged thing is like if

625
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,600
you don't yeah then you and your
family will be tort and not just

626
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,000
killed but tortured.
I mean, there's in the book of

627
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,800
second Maccabees in particular.
There's, there's several,

628
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:06,100
several of the martyrdoms that
are Detailed in gruesome detail

629
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,500
and there's kind of two famous
sets.

630
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:16,200
There's one this old man elderly
man named Eleazar and it's this

631
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,400
very thing they go out to all
the outlying cities and they set

632
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,600
up Pagan altars and they offer
something to Zeus or whatever

633
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,600
and they say everyone come and
partake so we can all be one you

634
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,400
know?
So we can so we can all be good

635
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,500
Global Citizens and be, you
know, Part of this Greek family.

636
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:39,200
And uh, and they would often go
to, like you said the rabbi or

637
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,100
to the like the respected
members of those communities and

638
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:46,900
say, you come up and go first
because then we'll get less

639
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:51,200
resistance right.
And and if you do, then will

640
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,800
shower you with gifts and praise
and you'll get the title friend

641
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,900
of the king and you know, will
give you will give you a reward

642
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:02,600
and if you don't, then then
you're going to die.

643
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:08,700
Ali A's are says no I will.
I refuse.

644
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,300
And the officials say they
actually tell him they say,

645
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:19,600
okay, let's do this.
Why don't you bring your own

646
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,700
clean food and come up and, and
just eat that but beep.

647
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:30,600
But pretend to partake of this
sacrifice to zoos and but you

648
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,000
don't actually have to, but we
just want you to set an example

649
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,400
so that everyone else will do
it.

650
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,800
And you'll liaise are basically,
says, there's no way I would do

651
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,900
that because all these young
people are watching me and like

652
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,500
their blood will be upon my
head.

653
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:48,000
You know, if I write do This
wicked thing, right?

654
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,100
And so he gets tortured and
killed.

655
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:54,000
And then the other one is
there's this.

656
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,900
There's a mother with her seven
sons and they're all like

657
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:00,700
tortured and killed one at a
time while the rest of them are

658
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:03,000
watching.
And they just and they just all

659
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:06,600
refused.
And and it just, it, it's like

660
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,900
gory stuff, you know, they cut
off their hands and feet like

661
00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:12,300
one at a time, you know, do you
will you accept, you know, Zeus

662
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:16,100
whenever cut out their tongue
and then they like roast them

663
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:17,900
alive.
Giant frying pan and stuff like

664
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:18,400
that.
Yeah.

665
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:20,300
Horrible stuff.
Yeah.

666
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:23,400
And and I think here's probably
a good point to stop for a

667
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,300
second and draw some interesting
parallels right on this part of

668
00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:33,000
the story so far, we just got
done going through a process

669
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:38,700
where again, going back to the
pandemic, you will submit to

670
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:41,500
this.
You will do this and you're

671
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:44,500
going to do it to be a good
Global citizen that is and to be

672
00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:48,300
United and one.
Of the things that that bugs me.

673
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:53,800
The most is when folks in power,
talk about Unity for Unity sake,

674
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,600
right?
We can even see spots in the Old

675
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,000
Testament where the Lord wasn't
a fan of just Unity for Unity

676
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,000
sake.
Think about the Tower of Babel

677
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,200
right where the people were all
of one heart and one mind and

678
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,900
the Lord's like trouble.
Now if we're all United on Godly

679
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:13,900
principles, that's a different
animal.

680
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,300
But when it's Unity, For
political purposes, for

681
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,300
somebody's ego.
Yeah, on wrong principle.

682
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:25,200
This is the, this is the kingdom
of the Antichrist, which is

683
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,300
always in opposition, right?
And so we just got done going

684
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:31,600
through that.
The other thing that I'm going

685
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,400
to say and this is going to get
real spicy.

686
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:40,800
I like spicy.
We just saw last week.

687
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:43,900
The church come out and throw
its support behind gay,

688
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:46,500
marriage.
Oh, boy, I'm gonna go there.

689
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:49,000
I'm Gonna go there.
I'm gonna go there.

690
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,400
I'm gonna go back to when I left
the LDS church a few years back

691
00:44:57,500 --> 00:45:01,900
and I had a very candid
conversation with my higher up,

692
00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:04,000
who was the son of a general
Authority?

693
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,100
A 70k, not going to name names.
All right, but he asked me a

694
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:09,800
question.
He's like why are you so

695
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,700
concerned about the temple
changes?

696
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:15,700
What is it about it?
That really bugs, you and I

697
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:19,700
said, you are Paving the way.
Four.

698
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,800
And I use the exact term of the
abomination of desolation,

699
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,900
that's right.
And he asked what that was and I

700
00:45:26,908 --> 00:45:31,100
said, is that, yeah, but in 10
years and this is what I said

701
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:34,500
there.
I said in 10 to 20 years, I

702
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:37,800
think you're going to see, gay
marriage is inside the temple.

703
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:41,800
You have the church did say,
this is quote or the way

704
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,300
forward, right?
Exactly.

705
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,900
You had down a chokes just a
year ago.

706
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:49,600
I remember because I was
Christmas shopping with my wife,

707
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,800
where I read the story, we're
down a choke said, we're going

708
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,500
to have to surrender some things
in order to have peace.

709
00:45:56,300 --> 00:46:00,800
What left is there at this point
and a few things I can think of

710
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:07,800
and and so I think we're at a
point now, where They may not be

711
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,500
killing people, but they'll
cancel you, the only race you

712
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:12,500
that way.
Yeah.

713
00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:16,600
And so there's some very
interesting parallels that are

714
00:46:16,607 --> 00:46:19,300
happening right now to this.
Yeah.

715
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:25,500
And it's either, you will be a
good Global citizen will cancel.

716
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:31,400
You will erase you from culture.
And with the Advent of ESG, with

717
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:37,100
the Advent of an potentially, at
Gadget digital dollar that Times

718
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:40,500
gonna come and I feel like
people at this point need to

719
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:46,300
start preparing for such things
where we can maybe come together

720
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:50,200
and work together and put some
of our differences aside because

721
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,600
we're going to need to rely on
each other.

722
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,600
There's going to have to be
something parallel, that's

723
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,800
happening if we're going to
resist.

724
00:46:56,100 --> 00:47:00,000
Yeah, this and I think we see
that Baird out in the story of

725
00:47:00,008 --> 00:47:02,400
Maccabees as well, right?
You get the feeling that there's

726
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,500
something, parallel happening
when the map apps to roll.

727
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:09,700
Is roll on when the Maccabees
roll up on site, right?

728
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:13,300
It's already been established in
there, there's so much

729
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:20,400
prophetic.
It's maybe the most prophetic of

730
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,300
the holidays.
Yeah.

731
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,400
Because yeah, just the things
that Daniel talks about and

732
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,300
Jesus as well.
Jesus, of course, in Matthew 24

733
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:34,700
and we have, we have some
additional things in Joseph,

734
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:38,700
Smith Matthew there, but Jesus
basically says, when you see the

735
00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:42,100
abomination of desolation
mentioned by Daniel, then you'll

736
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:44,300
know that the temple here in
Jerusalem is going to be

737
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:47,600
destroyed and all that.
He talks about how he predicts

738
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,400
the destruction of the temple,
that happened in 70 AD, right?

739
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,300
Of Espeon, I think in and Titus
was yes, son, who actually

740
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,200
actually did the deed.
And that was, that was foretold

741
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,500
in Daniel as well.
Daniel talks about the fourth.

742
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:09,800
He talks about talks about these
kingdoms as like, these Metals

743
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,600
in the Statue.
But he also talks about these

744
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,200
beasts, and he talks about this
fourth Beast, which is Rome and

745
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,900
it has Ten horns.
And anyway and the 10th one,

746
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:23,800
which was Titus is the one that
is going to who is also a little

747
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,500
horn.
So he's also this type of the

748
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:31,600
Antichrist who destroys the
temple anyways.

749
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,700
But Jesus says in Matthew 24,
there says you're going to see

750
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:38,400
the abomination of desolation
and then you know, you're going

751
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,300
to flee, but he says, but the
abomination of desolation is

752
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:43,500
going to happen again in the
future.

753
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,800
And so watch out for that And
and I think there's I mean

754
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,700
there's been multiple
fulfillments of it, and I don't

755
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:52,900
know that we were definitely, I
don't even know that there's one

756
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:54,000
more.
I think there's probably going

757
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,100
to be at least several more 11
in the temple.

758
00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:01,400
That's going to be built in
Jerusalem, for sure.

759
00:49:01,700 --> 00:49:05,700
And I think also, the temples of
the Latter Day Saints to are

760
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:09,300
going to see this Baumann a of
an abomination of desolation.

761
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:13,200
And I think the gay marriage is
going to be ceiling is going to

762
00:49:13,207 --> 00:49:16,500
be a likely candidate.
Yeah, yeah.

763
00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:18,600
The, the only place I could see,
I may have been wrong.

764
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,400
There's I misjudged the time.
I honestly thought, you know, 10

765
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,900
to 20 years.
I wonder if we're that far away

766
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:28,000
at this point because it's
moving with breathtaking speed,

767
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,200
and it doesn't seem to be
slowing down at all.

768
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,500
Yeah.
Closer than we've ever been.

769
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,800
That's what I like to say.
Yep, people can make all kinds

770
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,800
of predictions and prophecies
and video.

771
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,000
I mean, there's there's numbers,
there's none of these days and

772
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,200
years and times and stuff in
Daniel and Revelation.

773
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,400
And I suck at the game, pin, the
tail on the lips, I always have

774
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,500
to sit.
It's closer than That's what I'm

775
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:48,000
sure and we can all see that,
right?

776
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,700
Everything is accelerating,
absolutely.

777
00:49:49,900 --> 00:49:52,600
So, yeah, I find those
parallels, very interesting.

778
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,600
But all right, let's move on.
So, so we painted the picture of

779
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,900
what's going on in Jerusalem
under under Aunt Caius, and it

780
00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:04,600
is a horror show of Master show.
Yeah, massive all in the name of

781
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,500
unity unity and getting along
and yet everyone being friends,

782
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:10,700
right?
It's the most brutal friendship

783
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:15,400
it is and that's I've often said
those relationships.

784
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:19,100
Are like dysfunctional, abusive
marriages, right?

785
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:22,500
Someone's getting beat up.
And someone says, if you would

786
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:24,800
just do as I tell you, I
wouldn't have to do this.

787
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,600
This is your fault and so.
Oh yeah.

788
00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:31,100
I've often said it resembles an
abusive marriage, quite a bit.

789
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,800
That's exactly it.
So when do The Maccabees roll up

790
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,000
on site?
Okay, this is when let's talk

791
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,600
about The Maccabees first, who
are they?

792
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,000
They're family right, our
family.

793
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:45,100
Yeah.
Now the name maccabe is

794
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:47,800
actually.
That was actually a man, he's a

795
00:50:47,808 --> 00:50:54,500
priest, his name is Matisyahu or
madiface is a like his Greek

796
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:58,600
version Greek name, and he has
five sons, and one of them, is

797
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:04,800
named Judah who also has the
nickname maccabe, which means

798
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,800
the hammer, which is a pretty.
It's pretty had, that's a

799
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,700
badass.
I don't know how else to say.

800
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,000
Yeah.
And basically this this nickname

801
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,900
that he has eventually Applies
to the whole family.

802
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,400
This whole family is also called
the called the hasmoneans.

803
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,200
Hasmoneans is the name of, like
the grandfather, like,

804
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,900
metathesis father or
grandfather.

805
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:30,300
I can't remember at the moment,
but they, anyway, they become

806
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:32,800
the hasmonean.
Dynasty is this, this family or

807
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,900
The Maccabees?
Also known by.

808
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:38,700
So these Greek officials, they
come, they're going out to the

809
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:41,800
various communities outside of
Jerusalem and they go to the

810
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,200
town of mode in which is where
Matthias and his family live,

811
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,400
and the Same kind of thing, they
build, they set the altar there

812
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,200
and they offer the swine to Zeus
and they are, they tell

813
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,600
mattifies to come up and because
he's respected Elder in this

814
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,800
community.
And if he will partake first,

815
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,100
then they will be friends with
the King and get all these

816
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:05,300
presents and perks.
And, but if not, then though the

817
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:09,200
bad things will happen and
mattifies says, no, I never

818
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,000
will.
I'm not I never turn my back on

819
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,100
the Covenant that my father's
made you know with Our God and

820
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:21,900
like, while he's giving this
speech, there's another priest

821
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:28,900
in the town who like walks up in
front of everyone and and just

822
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,600
goes ahead and and partakes of
the offering, you know, maybe

823
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,500
even offers offers and partakes
right in front of everyone and

824
00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:39,900
mattifies.
His so incensed, it's kind of a

825
00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:45,600
it's kind of like Phineas in the
Old Testament, we run.

826
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,400
A lance through the right.
What's his name Aiken?

827
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,300
I think no one else not even
can't remember his name.

828
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:54,700
Anyway.
There's that you know story he

829
00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:57,600
brings the moabite prostitutes
into his tent basically.

830
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,300
Anyway he does he goes and earns
earns.

831
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:07,900
The priesthood forever says by
securing these these evildoers

832
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:13,400
but So, math is basically pulls
out his sword and goes and kills

833
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:18,500
the other priests, the other
Jewish priests who had just done

834
00:53:18,500 --> 00:53:21,900
this wicked thing and then kills
the Greek, official and you

835
00:53:21,908 --> 00:53:24,100
know, his sons, they pull their
swords and there's a, there's a

836
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:27,100
few soldiers there and they
basically go to war clean house.

837
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:31,000
And then they, then they
destroyed the altar that, push

838
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,000
it over and then run away and
into the hills.

839
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,300
And mattifies basically says
everyone who I'll use the

840
00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:42,000
Covenant like follow me, you
know.

841
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,800
Yeah.
And that's the beginning of the

842
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,400
Insurgency, right?
And then they started

843
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,700
Insurgency, that's right.
I go up in the mountains and and

844
00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:53,700
people hear about what had just
happened and I'm sure a lot of

845
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:57,500
people were relieved, you know,
that someone finally did

846
00:53:57,500 --> 00:54:02,000
something so that, so we can put
an end to this Insanity.

847
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,800
Actually.
Interesting, speaking of

848
00:54:03,808 --> 00:54:09,700
insanity, Antiochus epiphanes,
like he had kind of a A nickname

849
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:13,100
which was opinion.
He's just kind of a play on

850
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:19,300
words but epiphanies means like
mad man so insane so so that's

851
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:23,400
what he was called.
Yeah.

852
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,800
So Not mattifies dies, not too
much later.

853
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:32,300
Like, after this whole thing
starts, but he he dies and he

854
00:54:32,300 --> 00:54:39,100
basically says, one of the one
of his sons I think was Simon

855
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:41,200
Simon.
He's going to be kind of in

856
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:47,100
charge of things that generally
but Judah Maccabee, he's going

857
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:48,800
to be the general.
He's gonna be in charge of the

858
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:54,900
army and do whatever he says.
So I read something now.

859
00:54:54,900 --> 00:54:57,000
No.
If this is something that you

860
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,500
know about, but in this has been
years ago, this has been over a

861
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:04,800
decade ago.
When I read about about The

862
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,100
Maccabees.
They before this goes down their

863
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:09,700
cat.
Kind of known around town.

864
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:11,600
So to speak.
Is kind of rowdy kids.

865
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:15,300
I probably probably, I wouldn't
be surprised if there was some

866
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:19,500
oral tradition that, you know,
they're kind of the guys who in

867
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:23,400
today's society, our overall
good guys but they're a little

868
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,200
rough around the edges.
They'd be the guy.

869
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,700
You'd see at church and would
definitely be living the

870
00:55:28,707 --> 00:55:30,500
Commandments.
But maybe pushing things a

871
00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:33,100
little bit, right?
Some louder music being played

872
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:36,400
and just just Rowdy there.
There, there there are different

873
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,300
breeds.
So yeah, not clean shaven, not

874
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:41,600
clean shaven.
They're they're they're kind of

875
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:46,900
March into their own drum but
yet very, very adherent to the,

876
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,700
to the gospel.
Yeah, absolutely.

877
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,600
The kind of people that you want
to be your friend, actually.

878
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,600
Yeah.
Probably the guy you want in a

879
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,700
fight is kind of the vibe.
You get Absolutely, they were

880
00:55:56,700 --> 00:55:58,900
kind of always itching and I
know that that was one of the

881
00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:03,700
things that this historian and
author kind of brought out is

882
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:06,000
that they were kind of known for
getting into some fistfights.

883
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,600
They didn't seem too shy away a
whole bunch from now, they did.

884
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,300
Let's, let's throw down a little
bit, just out of fun, more or

885
00:56:12,308 --> 00:56:13,800
less.
And then they found somebody

886
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:20,600
that Really got their higher up.
So as dictators do, they didn't

887
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,200
necessarily account for every
member of that population and

888
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:28,600
and now you have the Maccabee.
So what happens once once they

889
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,300
run up in the hills.
So they run up to the gala dies.

890
00:56:31,300 --> 00:56:32,000
Yeah.
There.

891
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:37,100
There's actually several pockets
of these of this resistance

892
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:40,900
people hear about and people run
up into the mountains in

893
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:43,600
different places.
Of course, Judea is just

894
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:47,700
mountainous country.
So, plenty of places but in one

895
00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:53,600
instance, there's this group of
people up in the mountains and

896
00:56:53,600 --> 00:57:00,000
the Greeks come up on the
Sabbath and they're like, hey

897
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:06,800
come out, come out and eat the,
you know, you pay homage to Zeus

898
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,200
with the long with the rest of
us or else we're going to wipe

899
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,800
you out and they're like in
caves and stuff and they

900
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,000
basically say We're not we're
not going to come out and do

901
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,300
that and you know, leave us
alone.

902
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,600
We're trying to be.
We're trying to keep the Sabbath

903
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:25,300
and so the Greeks just go and
slaughter them and they put up

904
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:31,200
no resistance because they don't
want to It's just a this kind of

905
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,500
the pendulum is swinging the
other way.

906
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,300
They want to have like this
radical adherence to Super

907
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:43,500
strict adherence to the law
because that's what they feel

908
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:45,100
like is going to be the
antidote, right?

909
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:49,300
So it's interesting to.
So anyway, the the Greeks, the

910
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:52,600
Greeks tedious, they kill.
Like I can't remember one, one,

911
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,100
two, three, thousand, people,
something like that if I

912
00:57:55,107 --> 00:57:57,200
remember right?
Anyway, several hundred at least

913
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,200
and they just wipe out these
people who offer no resistance.

914
00:57:59,300 --> 00:58:05,400
Since on the Sabbath and math is
is like okay that just happened

915
00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:08,600
and we cannot let that happen
again.

916
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,900
We're not we're not going to go
out to battle on the Sabbath but

917
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:16,700
if they come to us we are going
to fight even on the Sabbath and

918
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:21,100
they make that their policy and
and basically they start having

919
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:24,400
these battles and they and at
first, they're kind of this

920
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,100
ragtag band and not it, they
don't even all have weapons.

921
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:32,600
I like they have like you know,
pitchforks and right kitchen

922
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:37,000
knives, you know.
And but they end up defeating

923
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,600
one Greek army after another and
then you know then they're then

924
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:47,000
they get armor and Shields and
swords and Judah himself.

925
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,800
He the first, the first Syrian
General Greeks in general, that

926
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,700
comes comes against them.
He actually takes his sword and

927
00:58:55,700 --> 00:58:58,300
uses that as his sword.
The rest of the time, it's very

928
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,300
kind of David and Goliath SQ.
Texas, sword, and kind of Nephi

929
00:59:03,300 --> 00:59:05,800
with Laban.
Sword becomes this like symbol

930
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:11,300
of his Generalship.
You know, and his authority in

931
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:16,000
the Army anyway, and so like
it's to everyone's surprise and

932
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:23,300
and to Antiochus is dismay
eventually, they they win their

933
00:59:23,300 --> 00:59:26,000
independence.
Okay, let me stop you there for

934
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,000
a second because I see another
parallel here that I want to

935
00:59:29,008 --> 00:59:33,000
point out.
And that is often times, we tend

936
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,000
to look at ourselves and think
should we do something right

937
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:37,600
now?
I'm not talking.

938
00:59:37,700 --> 00:59:39,200
Fucking violence.
Let's just put this in the

939
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,300
context of the Gospel should
should.

940
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:45,400
I should I do something?
And they, and the thought,

941
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,600
always Creeps in your just one
person or you're just one

942
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,000
family.
And what, what, what difference

943
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,500
can you make?
It always starts with one

944
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,700
people.
Forget that there was a large

945
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:02,300
portion of this country who were
loyal to the king.

946
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,600
Yeah, right.
Not, everybody was on board

947
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,700
about going to war against
England for Independence, even

948
01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:12,500
close.
It was sort of a groups.

949
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,300
Yeah, it was one dude.
Who first questioned?

950
01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:17,100
And from there?
It caught fire.

951
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,200
That's right.
And so I guess that's something

952
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,400
that we have to keep in mind.
Yeah, you're right.

953
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:28,700
You're one person you're one
family, but You might be the

954
01:00:28,707 --> 01:00:30,800
match that lights the fire.
Yeah.

955
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,000
And they will be matches that
don't, right?

956
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:38,800
And so if you're feeling that
pull do something open your

957
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:44,400
mouth say something, but don't
stand by.

958
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,300
I get that, it's risky.
I understand that very clearly

959
01:00:48,700 --> 01:00:54,100
and I'm not going to reveal
reveal it but there's a price to

960
01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:55,700
be paid for doing the right
thing.

961
01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:59,600
Yeah.
And We got to be willing to take

962
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,100
that step and just open our
mouths and talk.

963
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:07,100
So and and I just saw that as a
parallel that at some point we

964
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:11,700
need to talk.
Yeah, that's absolutely the case

965
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:16,500
I said there was there was
plenty of people who just

966
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,800
suffered martyrdom.
If the aliens are in the and the

967
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,100
mother with her seven sons of
the most famous ones. and

968
01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:31,900
there's, there's two things that
kind of The disease theme this

969
01:01:31,900 --> 01:01:36,400
theme through the books of
Maccabees for those who are

970
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,900
righteous and wanting to keep
the Covenant.

971
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:45,900
The two themes are one, we have
brought this on ourselves and it

972
01:01:45,900 --> 01:01:49,500
is used by our own, our own
wickedness as a nation.

973
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:54,900
And so the remedy to that is to
return to repent.

974
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:59,400
And even even if God continues
to punish, they know that if

975
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,500
they Repent that the God's
punishment will not last forever

976
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,400
because we're his people and he
said he's punishing us to

977
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,500
correct us.
And it's a it's a it's a

978
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:11,900
necessary thing for us to
return.

979
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:17,700
And so, that's one thing is that
there's this this sense that the

980
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:22,200
problems are of their own making
and they're to blame, so they

981
01:02:22,207 --> 01:02:24,300
don't have, they don't blame
Antiochus.

982
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,500
He's like an instrument being
that's God is using to punish

983
01:02:27,500 --> 01:02:30,100
them for their own sins, okay?
And then Nation.

984
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:31,900
Yeah.
And that's such a powerful state

985
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:34,200
of mind.
Because when you say, what's my

986
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,300
role in, this will all of a
sudden, you're now empowered to

987
01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:40,200
make changes.
That's right to get back, right?

988
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,300
So only a little bit and then
the other thing is, there's this

989
01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:50,100
theme throughout that this
strong strong belief in the

990
01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:56,400
resurrection and that even if we
die, We are we are we will die

991
01:02:56,500 --> 01:03:00,100
and obtain a better
Resurrection, if and that's it.

992
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:03,600
And we just have faith in that
and that will that carries us

993
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,400
through and allows us to
actually have, I was going to

994
01:03:06,408 --> 01:03:08,400
quote earlier now is a good
time.

995
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:18,000
Actually, I'll go back to the to
the Apocrypha, some of the Some

996
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,900
of the reasons why the Apocrypha
was taken out.

997
01:03:21,900 --> 01:03:24,000
People will say, people will say
that.

998
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:32,100
That the like the New Testament
never quotes from the Apocrypha,

999
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,700
which is not true.
All right?

1000
01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:38,600
And they'll say, well, even if
it does, quote, like Jesus never

1001
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,500
quotes like, maybe like Paul
quotes from it but Jesus never

1002
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:43,200
does.
Which is also not true.

1003
01:03:43,700 --> 01:03:46,200
And they'll say, you know, the
Apocrypha never there's never

1004
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,300
there's nothing in the Apocrypha
where as a prophet who says thus

1005
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:52,800
saith the Lord but there's also
not true.

1006
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,800
So anyway here's your At 11
example.

1007
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,500
This is Hebrews chapter 11 and
there's all these lists of all

1008
01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:09,200
these trials and accomplishments
that people achieved over Kane

1009
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:18,900
because of their faith.
And in 30 35 says, women

1010
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,200
received their dead raised to
life again and others were

1011
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,200
tortured.
Not accepting Deliverance that

1012
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,800
they might obtain a better.
Resurrection.

1013
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,800
And others had trial of cruel.
Mockings and scourgings.

1014
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,800
Yeah.
Moreover the bonds, moreover of

1015
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:37,600
bonds and imprisonment.
Stone sawn asunder and all that.

1016
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,000
But anyway, this, the verse
there in verse 35, especially

1017
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,400
tortured so that they might
obtain a better Resurrection,

1018
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,400
like, this is, this is
universally liked everyone,

1019
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,100
Bible scholars.
Realize that this is an illusion

1020
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:55,400
to Second Maccabees when it
talks about the woman with her

1021
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,900
seven sons and write their whole
motivation is to obtain.

1022
01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:03,300
This better resurrection.
And so this is this is actually

1023
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:05,300
another reason.
And this would be Interesting to

1024
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:10,700
Mormons to another reason why
the Apocrypha is was removed, is

1025
01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:15,900
because Martin Luther and a lot
of the other reformers did not

1026
01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:20,400
like some of the things in
there, especially second

1027
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,500
Maccabees.
And this is something I brought

1028
01:05:23,500 --> 01:05:27,300
up with with Ken Peterson, we
were talking about the Apocrypha

1029
01:05:27,300 --> 01:05:35,900
was There's a lot of the Old and
New Testaments that aren't kind

1030
01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:38,600
to dictators and Kings, but that
is part of it.

1031
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:39,400
Yeah.
Right.

1032
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:46,600
And, and this idea that that we
should just submit at every

1033
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,700
turn.
Doesn't necessarily hold water

1034
01:05:48,700 --> 01:05:56,200
with what would be our spiritual
Heritage so to speak.

1035
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,100
Right?
So me and I I've often said

1036
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:02,200
sometimes we paint Christ in
pastel colors, but keep in mind,

1037
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,600
this is a guy who's pissing
everybody off around it.

1038
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,200
The release of the religious
structure of the day as well as

1039
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,000
the political structure.
Absolutely.

1040
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:14,400
And so, I think that that's
maybe certain books didn't make

1041
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,400
it in because it wasn't
politically expedient for for

1042
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,800
the dudes in charge.
I know that even the Geneva

1043
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:24,800
Bible, which put a heavy
emphasis on kind of, you know,

1044
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:28,300
casting tyrants and kings and
bad light.

1045
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,900
The British hated that Bible,
they're like yeah we don't use

1046
01:06:32,900 --> 01:06:36,600
that and certainly we discourage
anybody from using a Geneva

1047
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,400
Bible for that very person
reason.

1048
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:43,000
Because it was it was extremely
anti-authoritarian.

1049
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:47,500
Yeah, you know that's a that's a
thing that I think Latter-Day

1050
01:06:47,500 --> 01:06:51,300
Saints struggle with to be
honest because you know said the

1051
01:06:51,308 --> 01:06:52,600
11th article Faith.
Yeah.

1052
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,900
We believe in being subject to
Kings magistrates rulers and

1053
01:06:56,500 --> 01:06:58,500
right and obeying honoring and
sustaining the law.

1054
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:04,500
But our own Doctrine Covenant
says has plenty of things like

1055
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:08,800
that too, but there's always
caveats to that.

1056
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,000
Yeah.
And the Doctrine and Covenants,

1057
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,900
makes one's right, thought the
whole purpose of government was

1058
01:07:13,900 --> 01:07:15,400
to protect the rights of gender
rights.

1059
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:22,100
And it says this, like sex thing
is section 134 135 says that

1060
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:25,700
sedition is Unbecoming of every
citizen.

1061
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,000
Who is thus protected in there?
Right?

1062
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,000
Right, like as long as you're
protecting your rights, then,

1063
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,800
sedition is a No-No, right there
is definitely an opening.

1064
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,500
Therefore, if your rights are
being trampled though, then then

1065
01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:44,600
God bless you for resisting.
You know, the story of the story

1066
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:50,200
of The Maccabees is really
summed up nicely with Thomas,

1067
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,800
Jefferson's motto.
Benjamin Franklin, writes

1068
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:57,500
Rebellion to tyrants is Stegall.
Yep.

1069
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,100
Absolutely absolute.
Can I get a name it?

1070
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:01,500
Yeah.
Can I get an amen?

1071
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,100
Yeah, yeah.
I think.

1072
01:08:05,500 --> 01:08:08,200
I think we need to be very
careful how we apply the 11th

1073
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:12,200
Article of Faith.
Certainly, I'm not espousing for

1074
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,600
violence.
Let's get that out of the way,

1075
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,900
right now, that's not what I'm
talking about.

1076
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:19,700
I'm talking about kind of the,
the Gandhi approach or the

1077
01:08:19,700 --> 01:08:23,300
Martin Luther King approach,
where you're you're saying, take

1078
01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:27,600
me to jellification right.
Nullification peaceful

1079
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,399
resistance.
Don't don't just toe the line.

1080
01:08:31,500 --> 01:08:34,700
Yeah, I mean, our own, our own
declaration says it's, it's

1081
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:38,399
better to To suffer with evils
as long as The Evils are

1082
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:39,600
sufferable.
Exactly.

1083
01:08:39,899 --> 01:08:41,800
The guys who want to go to
violence right away.

1084
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,800
Always spook me because they
really they really don't know

1085
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,700
their History either, right?
It wasn't like one day, the

1086
01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:50,899
founders woke up and went you
know we should just start a war,

1087
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,600
no way.
This was something that went on

1088
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,800
for decades before it got to
that point where where there was

1089
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:02,600
constant seeking for redress.
So nobody be too quick to to do

1090
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,600
that please.
But there's a Yeah.

1091
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:12,300
I've met folks who have crazy
dangerous idea, like who believe

1092
01:09:12,300 --> 01:09:14,600
that, that knew that might makes
right?

1093
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,100
Yeah.
Like a second.

1094
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:21,100
No, no.
Like rights come from God and

1095
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:24,700
know that and they're like, no
rights come from whoever's got

1096
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:27,700
the most guns, or whatever.
So yeah, yeah.

1097
01:09:28,300 --> 01:09:31,200
Please don't do anything well.
And furthermore, if you take

1098
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:36,600
that approach, that allows your
belief that These rights are

1099
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,500
inalienable it puts a timeframe
stamp on it, right?

1100
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,399
I mean if you're wiped out that
doesn't continue but if you get

1101
01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:49,300
on the side of God and say look
these are from him for us no man

1102
01:09:49,300 --> 01:09:53,200
can take these away.
That's an idea and unlike a

1103
01:09:53,207 --> 01:09:58,200
charismatic figure unlike a
military leader that will

1104
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,600
perpetuate long after he is
dead.

1105
01:10:00,700 --> 01:10:04,600
That's right.
Yeah so yeah, ideas are good

1106
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:09,000
ideas. last longer than,
Military might.

1107
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:10,500
Yep.
Absolutely.

1108
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:16,100
So so they you said they begin
to like all these things tend to

1109
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:18,900
do right?
Once one guy starts it, some

1110
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:21,500
other people are like yeah, I'm
with that dude.

1111
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,800
And it picks up steam and
momentum to the point where they

1112
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,000
start getting armor and weapons
and they get stronger and they

1113
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,000
eventually overthrow and Caius
they do.

1114
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,500
And this is where the story of
Hanukkah, really?

1115
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:38,800
It's absolutely incredible.
There's just There's so many

1116
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,200
miracles, really that take
place.

1117
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,100
It kind of culminate.
Like the last, the last straw is

1118
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:51,900
Antiochus basically sends half
of his entire Army to Judea and

1119
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:55,500
he actually, he actually takes
the other half to Persia because

1120
01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:58,500
he realizes that his, the
treasury is empty.

1121
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,200
So he needs to go to Persia to
collect taxes.

1122
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,800
But he puts a lyceus, one of his
Governor General's in charge

1123
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,900
since half Of it.
And they actually this kind of

1124
01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:16,100
dire moment.
Like, all the nations kind of

1125
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:20,700
around, like, they, like here
that half of the Syrian Greek

1126
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:25,400
Syrian Army is headed to
Jerusalem and they all come with

1127
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,900
money and chains because they're
looking forward to like, buying

1128
01:11:28,900 --> 01:11:30,400
some slaves and stuff.
Because they know there's going

1129
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:31,600
to be all these prisoners and
stuff.

1130
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,600
And they just all their hopes
are, are trashed.

1131
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:43,900
Yeah, and then immediately after
that, And then the Greek thread

1132
01:11:43,900 --> 01:11:47,700
is gone.
Then judah's immediate his,

1133
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:49,700
immediately his attention turns
back to the temple.

1134
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:56,200
I'ma go there, and everything is
just in this grotesque disarray,

1135
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,600
they finish clearing the
Jerusalem of the last, you know,

1136
01:12:00,700 --> 01:12:06,700
Greek soldiers that are there
and just said about repairing

1137
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:13,600
and cleaning up the mess, you
know, the so So they take the

1138
01:12:13,700 --> 01:12:17,200
all the defiled stones for the
Altar and they don't know.

1139
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,000
They actually don't know what to
do with them because they're

1140
01:12:20,008 --> 01:12:23,000
defiled but they're also the
altar, right?

1141
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,800
So they decide.
Well, we're just going to, we'll

1142
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,600
just set those somewhere to the
side and 11 a profit comes.

1143
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,700
You can tell us what to do with
those, but they rebuild the

1144
01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:38,500
Altar and clean up, everything
start to rebuild the stuff

1145
01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:40,900
inside and the ready to dedicate
it.

1146
01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:44,700
And of course they have I know.
Now this this story about the

1147
01:12:44,700 --> 01:12:48,900
the miracle of the oil, right?
Which Hanukkah is famous for is

1148
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:51,500
actually not in the books of
Maccabees.

1149
01:12:52,700 --> 01:12:58,300
Either first or second Maccabees
but is a story that's first told

1150
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:05,200
in the talmud which was you know
written all nearly 400 years

1151
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:11,000
later so it's it's quite a late
recollection and so there is

1152
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,800
kind of some some people doubt
the truthfulness of the scary

1153
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:20,700
but I don't I don't actually see
any reason necessarily too.

1154
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,000
Well, there are reasons but but
I actually liked it.

1155
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:28,700
I liked the story of the oil,
partly, because like Josephus,

1156
01:13:28,700 --> 01:13:32,300
who is centuries before the
talmud, right?

1157
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,100
Josephus actually referred who
he just seems like a

1158
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,400
contemporary of the New
Testament writers.

1159
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:45,500
He calls Hanukkah, the Festival
of Lights, so, Which is

1160
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:50,500
interesting that he doesn't call
it the Festival of well well

1161
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:52,800
it's oiled its oil is light,
right?

1162
01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:58,000
But he doesn't it's actually the
interesting thing is that the

1163
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:02,400
focus of the holiday has been is
on this miracle of the light of

1164
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:08,900
the oil and not on the military
victories even though if you had

1165
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:12,000
to, if I ask you which of these
made a bigger difference in the

1166
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,000
world, you know, the the
military Victory of this, you

1167
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,800
know, this unlikely military
victories of these farmers and

1168
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:23,900
stuff who take on the largest
Empire in the world at the time.

1169
01:14:24,300 --> 01:14:29,200
You know, arguably Rome was Rome
was up-and-coming but one of the

1170
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,500
largest empires in the world and
gain their independence.

1171
01:14:33,700 --> 01:14:39,600
Or this oil that burned a little
longer than it should have like

1172
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,700
the oil that burned a little
longer than it should have

1173
01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:46,300
didn't change the world.
Like there's no history.

1174
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,500
The history books don't didn't
deviate, right?

1175
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:54,100
Because of that, the history
books did deviate in a big way

1176
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:58,500
because of the Maccabee family
and their military exploits.

1177
01:14:59,500 --> 01:15:02,700
So it's interesting that the the
miracle of the oil and of course

1178
01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:05,100
what was?
What was They searched through

1179
01:15:05,300 --> 01:15:08,700
the rubble, they clean
everything up and they find one

1180
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,800
vessel of oil.
That has that sealed that has

1181
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,100
the Seal of the high priest on
it.

1182
01:15:15,500 --> 01:15:19,600
And so, they know it's not has
not been defiled, which in

1183
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,300
itself is a miracle that just,
they were able to find that

1184
01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:26,100
among the rubble in the squalor
that the temple had become, you

1185
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:29,600
know, this is too like the giant
Menorah the giant Menorah, which

1186
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,200
is in the Holy place.
Yes, seven-branched.

1187
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,800
Yeah.
And and this is Is to, to

1188
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,800
essentially rededicate the house
of the Lord, right?

1189
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,800
This is to, that's right.
To bring bring this back into

1190
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:46,600
acceptance before God, which I
don't think Maccabees gets

1191
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,200
enough credit.
I mean, they get all the credit

1192
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,400
for shoeing out the the, the
Greeks.

1193
01:15:53,500 --> 01:15:58,300
Yeah, but they much like our
Founders, in some ways.

1194
01:15:58,300 --> 01:16:00,700
Right there are several
parallels are I'm looking at,

1195
01:16:00,700 --> 01:16:07,300
but they go straight from We're
spilling blood and were at War

1196
01:16:08,100 --> 01:16:11,700
to get rid of the dictator to
now, we have to rebuild.

1197
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,100
That's right.
They just switch that gear and

1198
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:17,900
that's how he needs.
We're doing this to serve God.

1199
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,500
Exactly.
Exactly.

1200
01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:24,500
Not for our own wealth or right
power or fame.

1201
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,900
And and the reason I say it's
interesting and kind of a

1202
01:16:26,900 --> 01:16:31,100
parallel to the states, is a lot
of those men who were, the

1203
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:33,700
founders could have had the had
the opportunity.

1204
01:16:33,900 --> 01:16:36,200
I could have had had the
opportunity to install

1205
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:41,500
themselves as a new ruing.
The newest dacra, see whatever

1206
01:16:41,500 --> 01:16:43,300
it is.
But instead, they're like, okay,

1207
01:16:43,300 --> 01:16:44,800
now we got to build something
better.

1208
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,400
And you get that same feeling
here from from, from The

1209
01:16:48,407 --> 01:16:50,900
Maccabees has K.
We've done that.

1210
01:16:50,900 --> 01:16:54,400
Now, we need to restore what's
been lost, right?

1211
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,800
I'm not concerned about my own
power.

1212
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,500
Let's restore what was lost.
There's several places in the

1213
01:16:59,500 --> 01:17:06,400
books of Maccabees where Judah
Maccabee is very Watch a Captain

1214
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,500
Moroni Roger.
Yeah, and he rallies.

1215
01:17:09,500 --> 01:17:15,600
His men not over Victory and
spoil but he tells him.

1216
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:20,200
We are fighting for our God, and
our families, and our country,

1217
01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:23,600
and like, just in our freedom
like those are the, those are

1218
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,700
the things like the exact things
that Moroni puts on the title of

1219
01:17:26,700 --> 01:17:29,400
Liberty.
That's what, that's what Judah

1220
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,600
Maccabee Rouses his troops with
his.

1221
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:32,900
Well, this is the reason they're
fighting.

1222
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:38,500
Yeah.
So they they debate whether to

1223
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:45,700
just use up the oil they have
and then and just get, you know,

1224
01:17:46,300 --> 01:17:53,600
they're hungry for they're
hungry for being able to serve

1225
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,700
God, right?
And or so whether they do that

1226
01:17:56,700 --> 01:17:58,500
and just let it burn out and
then wait until they get more

1227
01:17:58,500 --> 01:18:02,700
oil or two just or two just wait
and they're they're impatient

1228
01:18:02,900 --> 01:18:05,500
and they're ready.
And And everything's set and so

1229
01:18:05,500 --> 01:18:08,900
they decide to light the lamp.
Yep.

1230
01:18:08,900 --> 01:18:12,800
And it's and then the miracle is
that it should have burned for

1231
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:19,400
one day, but it burns for 8 days
until they can procure some new

1232
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,000
oil, right?
And then then they keep it

1233
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,800
burning because it's a
commandment to keep it burning

1234
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:30,400
all the time.
So sometimes it's sometimes we

1235
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,800
say sometimes we'll say it's the
miracle where the oil lasted for

1236
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:38,600
eight days but it's actually the
miracle actually lasted for 7

1237
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,100
Days, right?
Because the first day wasn't

1238
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:42,500
wasn't miraculous right?
Yeah.

1239
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,500
And so but the first day was
kind of little and then the

1240
01:18:45,508 --> 01:18:49,500
miracle was bigger and so I
think there's a couple reasons

1241
01:18:49,500 --> 01:18:54,000
why this oil is and the light
has become kind of the focus

1242
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:59,000
rather than the military Victory
and And part of it is the

1243
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,400
military victory was extremely
temporary.

1244
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:06,600
It was actually because the
Romans are coming right behind

1245
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:07,800
them.
Yep.

1246
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,700
The Romans are coming right
behind him and that happened.

1247
01:19:10,700 --> 01:19:17,100
And even before that, like
mattifies, his sons Judas is

1248
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:21,000
eventually after they gained
independence there still were

1249
01:19:21,700 --> 01:19:23,300
they had to maintain their
independence?

1250
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:26,000
And so there was still battles.
He eventually is killed.

1251
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,100
And but by the time it gets to
mattifies.

1252
01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:36,300
His last son, he is just his
youngest son, he's just fully

1253
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,500
incorporates Greek ways of life.
Yeah.

1254
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:46,800
And and and also they do they do
The Maccabees.

1255
01:19:47,900 --> 01:19:51,500
It's basically the kingly line.
They actually they actually

1256
01:19:51,500 --> 01:19:55,200
Proclaim themselves Kings which
they're not supposed to there.

1257
01:19:55,500 --> 01:20:01,200
There are the Priestly line but
they they make themselves like

1258
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,300
they make themselves wear.
Two hats are like we are the

1259
01:20:04,308 --> 01:20:07,900
high priest and we also are the
king and this is just have this

1260
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,400
consolidation of powers where
there should have been a

1261
01:20:11,407 --> 01:20:15,000
separation of powers between the
religious and the and the second

1262
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,800
yeah Deuteronomy pretty clear on
but they They just violate this

1263
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,100
and and the whole everything
just falls into total

1264
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:28,100
corruption.
And again, the office of high

1265
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:31,500
priest is just bought and sold,
and people are murdered left.

1266
01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:36,800
And right, I mentioned own is
the third.

1267
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,900
He was kind of the last kind of
legitimate.

1268
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,200
Hi.
He was, he was really the last,

1269
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:45,500
in my view, the last legitimate,
high priest, that Israel ever

1270
01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:47,500
happened in Jerusalem all the
way up.

1271
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:53,400
Until Jesus is time like these
are just Wicked people who were

1272
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,500
put into place for political
things Heritage Point Herod.

1273
01:20:56,500 --> 01:21:00,000
Who's also not even Israelite
Harrods, Jewish aren't herod's

1274
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,200
them Arab, he appoints
Egyptians.

1275
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:08,300
And Babylonians guys, to be the
high priest and and and people

1276
01:21:08,300 --> 01:21:10,400
just getting murdered left and
right to become the king.

1277
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,700
And so it becomes a question for
side and it's just awful.

1278
01:21:13,900 --> 01:21:17,600
I can't even describe how awful
it's less of a calling now oh

1279
01:21:17,608 --> 01:21:20,000
and more of a political office.
Yeah and there's nothing to

1280
01:21:20,008 --> 01:21:22,600
celebrate their right?
Because just falls apart in a

1281
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:28,300
generation but the oil though
that's something that's even

1282
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:33,000
though that didn't change
history that's something like

1283
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:38,100
you want to know that yes, there
has not been a prophet for

1284
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,800
Several centuries.
And yet.

1285
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:47,900
Yet we know that God has not
forgotten us but he's still

1286
01:21:47,900 --> 01:21:48,300
there.
You know.

1287
01:21:48,300 --> 01:21:50,800
God, God looks down and says I
see you.

1288
01:21:51,900 --> 01:21:53,500
You lit that.
I'm going to.

1289
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,100
I'm just going to do a little
something for you to let you

1290
01:21:57,100 --> 01:22:00,600
know that I'm still there and I
see what you're doing.

1291
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,800
You know, interesting in the
inlet.

1292
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:11,400
Leviticus 23.
This is the is a place where all

1293
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,900
of the all the festivals.
Throughout the year are kind of

1294
01:22:14,900 --> 01:22:19,500
laid out.
And they're laid out in the in

1295
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:26,500
order according to according to
the year, like it how, you know,

1296
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,600
right order that the festival's
arrived in.

1297
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:34,900
So You know, on verse 4 says,
these are the feasts of the Lord

1298
01:22:34,900 --> 01:22:37,500
holy convocations, which you
shall Proclaim in their seasons.

1299
01:22:37,500 --> 01:22:40,600
And then it starts with the 14th
day of the first month is

1300
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,800
Passover.
And then, the 15th day is begin,

1301
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,500
the Feast of unleavened bread.
And then it talks about first

1302
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:49,500
fruits.
And then you go on to, then you

1303
01:22:49,500 --> 01:22:55,900
go on to the the 50 days until
Pentecost and and then, you

1304
01:22:55,900 --> 01:23:00,200
know, and then it talks about
the seventh, see Yeah.

1305
01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:05,200
In verse 24, says, in the
seventh month, on the first day

1306
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,800
of the month will be Rosh
Hashanah, you know, would be the

1307
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,900
Feast of trumpets and then and
then there's Yom Kippur and then

1308
01:23:10,900 --> 01:23:14,400
it describes the Feast of
Tabernacles, which we talked

1309
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:19,500
about last time and then
interesting and then and then

1310
01:23:19,500 --> 01:23:23,200
the chapter ends.
But those chapter those chapter

1311
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,600
breaks are fairly recent.
They are very recent.

1312
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:31,000
Yeah, so interesting that not
always put in the spot we would

1313
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,900
think of As correct, they are
sometimes placed in a misleading

1314
01:23:34,900 --> 01:23:39,200
way.
So if you keep reading from

1315
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,400
Leviticus, 23 on to Leviticus
twenty four.

1316
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,900
If if you were going to list the
holidays that came Hanukkah

1317
01:23:48,900 --> 01:23:51,900
would be the next one.
And if course, it's not

1318
01:23:51,900 --> 01:23:57,900
mentioned directly, but there is
a beautiful hint at it, so

1319
01:23:59,500 --> 01:24:03,700
finish, Leviticus 23.
With Tabernacles and then write

1320
01:24:03,700 --> 01:24:06,300
in chapter 24 and the Lord
spake.

1321
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:09,800
Unto Moses saying, command the
children of Israel that they

1322
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:14,600
bring into the pure oil, pure
oil, olive beaten for the light

1323
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,600
to cause the lamps to burn
continually.

1324
01:24:16,900 --> 01:24:21,000
Wow, without the veil outside of
the veil of testimony in the

1325
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,100
Tabernacle of the congregation
shall are in order it from the

1326
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:27,500
evening, into the morning before
the Lord, continually, it should

1327
01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:31,100
be a statute forever in your
generations and he shall order

1328
01:24:31,100 --> 01:24:33,500
the Supplying the pure
Candlestick before the Lord

1329
01:24:33,500 --> 01:24:37,800
continually so.
So the very next thing after in

1330
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:42,100
the list of fisa says, and be
sure you keep the menorah

1331
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:45,100
burning all the time.
So yeah, the Lord was mindful.

1332
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,800
Oh yeah.
Clear back then like will give

1333
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,600
them a hint.
They won't get it right now.

1334
01:24:49,700 --> 01:24:51,500
That's right.
But but we'll give it, will put

1335
01:24:51,500 --> 01:24:53,200
it in there, so they know.
Yeah.

1336
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:58,400
They was looking back on it.
Ya know that I'm in charge, how

1337
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,600
is Hanukkah celebration has
celebrated?

1338
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,400
Yeah.
So that's good.

1339
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:09,600
So the main thing the main thing
is, well, celebrated for eight

1340
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,000
days, okay?
And why eight days?

1341
01:25:12,500 --> 01:25:16,700
Well, it was was partly because
the oil, which I mentioned, but

1342
01:25:16,700 --> 01:25:20,600
in the books of Maccabees, it
actually, they actually say that

1343
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,000
this is because the festival
that they most recently missed

1344
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:29,200
out on was so code Tabernacles,
which was an eight-day thing.

1345
01:25:29,700 --> 01:25:34,100
So this is there be late.
You'll be lated, Tabernacles,

1346
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:39,500
okay Square.
So so they celebrate that and

1347
01:25:39,500 --> 01:25:44,500
then so, okay, so with the
miracle of the oil, so a common

1348
01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:48,200
thing is to eat fried foods.
So a deep-fried food.

1349
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:53,100
So, all kinds of all kinds of
everything that's delicious, you

1350
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:56,400
know, donuts and you latkes are
traditional those potato

1351
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:00,400
pancakes, which are really good
and anything else you like,

1352
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,200
we're going to have a party.
T on December 23rd.

1353
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:06,400
So I know it's close to
Christmas and people probably a

1354
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,900
lot of family parties and stuff
but that'll be a Friday evening

1355
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,100
and we picked that day because
that's actually Joseph Smith's

1356
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:15,100
birthday.
Yeah.

1357
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:21,900
Which in 1805 that was the
eighth day of Hanukkah, okay?

1358
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:25,600
Joe Smith was born on which is
there's some interesting

1359
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,300
symbolism there in and of
itself.

1360
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,000
Like there's verses in the
Doctrine and Covenants to talk

1361
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,200
about out when the when the time
of the Gentiles comes in,

1362
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,800
they'll be a light that will
break forth to those that sit in

1363
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,400
darkness.
And so, of course, Hanukkah is

1364
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,600
often times, it's in the winter,
it's in December.

1365
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,100
Usually sometime, it floats
around, you know, but it's it's

1366
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:47,300
during this dark time of the
year.

1367
01:26:47,300 --> 01:26:49,900
And so but then there's this
light that breaks forth.

1368
01:26:52,300 --> 01:26:55,300
In, in the restroom, in the
restoration, right?

1369
01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:58,100
And and this is the Hanukkah
lights.

1370
01:26:58,100 --> 01:27:01,500
Are if you're if you're Mormon
then you can just take that

1371
01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:04,000
symbolism and it fits perfectly
with the restoration of the

1372
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,600
Gospel.
I'm sorry, you still having it

1373
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,800
fry food.
I don't like wow.

1374
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,300
So back to that issue.
So so on.

1375
01:27:09,300 --> 01:27:12,200
So we usually have you know we
have this potluck and we're like

1376
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,700
everyone bring fried foods.
So nice.

1377
01:27:14,700 --> 01:27:17,600
There's latkes Donuts french
fries.

1378
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,200
You know?
I'm going to deep fry a turkey.

1379
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,000
And those be nice, all manner of
goodies, you know?

1380
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:26,400
All right.
So ever had deep-fried Oreos.

1381
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,800
I have no, I have not.
So if you come I hope that

1382
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,900
you'll bring those.
Yeah.

1383
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,800
So and then we usually, you
know, will read some will read

1384
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,100
some scriptures about Jesus.
Jesus.

1385
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:45,500
Celebrated this a lot of people
don't know this too but that

1386
01:27:45,500 --> 01:27:48,000
Jesus celebrated.
Hmm Hanukkah.

1387
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:51,400
Yeah, it's in the New Testament.
Actually the New Testament is

1388
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,500
the aside from the books of The
Maccabees.

1389
01:27:53,500 --> 01:27:56,300
The New Testament is the
earliest reference we have

1390
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,500
because I mentioned that the
talmud was written a couple

1391
01:27:59,500 --> 01:28:01,900
hundred years after the New
Testament.

1392
01:28:01,900 --> 01:28:06,000
So the New Testament is the the
earliest reference I've had

1393
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:10,000
people give me funny.
Looks, you know, when I tell

1394
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,200
them that I celebrate Hanukkah
and they're like, yeah.

1395
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,800
But that's like a Jewish thing
in like Christians shouldn't be

1396
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,100
doing that.
I'm like well, Jesus did dude.

1397
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:23,400
Here's the thing.
I had that very same thought and

1398
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,300
and I've mentioned him on the
the show, before my buddy Joel.

1399
01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:31,000
He's like there's nothing that
says you have to be Jewish to

1400
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:36,400
observe these things, you know?
And he said my dad who was a

1401
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:40,900
devout, Rabbi had instructed
many Christians on how to keep

1402
01:28:40,900 --> 01:28:47,900
those and he used to say, you
know, Christianity in his He was

1403
01:28:47,900 --> 01:28:51,300
the younger brother so to speak
of time absolutely of Judaism,

1404
01:28:51,300 --> 01:28:53,400
right?
And and I make the assertion.

1405
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,500
You can't understand your
Innovation.

1406
01:28:55,500 --> 01:28:59,400
Yeah, you can't understand your
own Christian faith until you go

1407
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,200
back and you really look at
that.

1408
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,500
Yeah.
Actually, the first and second

1409
01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:08,100
Maccabees are our only, they're
not, they're not in Protestant

1410
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:09,900
Bibles, right?
But they are in the Catholic

1411
01:29:09,900 --> 01:29:10,900
Bible.
Yep.

1412
01:29:11,900 --> 01:29:15,700
And and they were in Protestant
Bibles for a long time, too.

1413
01:29:16,700 --> 01:29:22,900
Until I Leave the Apocrypha was
taken out in 1885 right out of

1414
01:29:22,907 --> 01:29:25,000
the King James Bible.
And then, of course, it wasn't

1415
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,600
in any of the other and IV or
anything like that as well.

1416
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,400
But yeah, and it and not in the
Jewish Cannon.

1417
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:38,400
So the now the Jews, the Jews
back in Jesus day, the, the

1418
01:29:38,407 --> 01:29:41,400
early Christians, they had the
Apocrypha because they had the

1419
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:46,000
Septuagint Which is the Greek
version of the scriptures that

1420
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:50,800
was written about this time.
So many, so many loose ends.

1421
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,800
I haven't tied up.
Let me, let me read this ensure

1422
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:56,600
that John first.
No, no, it's Hanukkah is

1423
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,400
actually kind of an overwhelming
thing to so much to talk about.

1424
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,900
It's really amazing.
Says, in John chapter 10 verse

1425
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,900
22.
Now, it's traditional.

1426
01:30:07,900 --> 01:30:10,600
Another thing to celebrate one
of the traditional things that's

1427
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:16,800
done is to read.
Ezekiel 34, which where the Lord

1428
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,400
is talking about how he is
against the Shepherds of Israel,

1429
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,400
because the shepherds are just
abusing the flock and enriching

1430
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:28,100
themselves.
And that someday, he's going to

1431
01:30:28,100 --> 01:30:32,900
send a good shepherd.
And so, Jesus actually starts

1432
01:30:32,900 --> 01:30:38,200
off chapter 10 talking about the
verse 11.

1433
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,600
He says, I am the Good Shepherd
for the Good Shepherd, giveth

1434
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,900
his life for the sheep, and he
talks about the hirelings and

1435
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:49,100
how they don't, they don't
actually take care of the sheep,

1436
01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:52,300
all of that.
And then, and then it says, it

1437
01:30:52,300 --> 01:30:59,700
was that Jesus gives this Sermon
at Jerusalem verse 22 says at

1438
01:30:59,700 --> 01:31:04,500
Jerusalem, the fees at the Feast
of dedication and it was Winter.

1439
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,800
Now, it says, dedication there
and so people, maybe don't catch

1440
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:12,300
it, but I get occasion of the
10th, the Hebrew word Hanukkah

1441
01:31:12,700 --> 01:31:16,000
means Dedication.
That is so Festival of Hanukkah

1442
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,700
is the Festival of dedication
because they re dedicated the

1443
01:31:19,700 --> 01:31:23,000
temple got your time.
So and it was Winter, right?

1444
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,300
So, Jesus walked in the temple
in Solomon's porch.

1445
01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:33,100
So he was there at the temple
for Hanukkah and telling me they

1446
01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:37,700
had been reading Ezekiel chapter
34 and he tells them hey I'm the

1447
01:31:37,700 --> 01:31:42,600
Good Shepherd right?
Also he's, he's proclaiming

1448
01:31:42,700 --> 01:31:44,900
again, the prophecies fulfilled
that's right.

1449
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,500
And it's actually interesting
because at this because of all

1450
01:31:49,500 --> 01:31:52,500
of the because of what they
expected the Messiah to do,

1451
01:31:53,300 --> 01:31:57,400
Which was throw off the Romans.
And this is at Hanukkah time.

1452
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:03,400
And so, there's like, they're
basically expecting the Messiah

1453
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:07,200
to be Judah, Maccabee, right?
And do the same thing that Judah

1454
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,900
did to the Greeks to the Romans,
right?

1455
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:11,800
And so they actually asked him,
right?

1456
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:15,500
Then after he says, he's there
for the Feast of dedication for

1457
01:32:15,500 --> 01:32:18,900
Hanukkah, and says the Jews
around about him said unto him.

1458
01:32:18,900 --> 01:32:23,700
How long do you make us doubt?
If you be Messiah.

1459
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,300
Tell us plainly.
Like tell us, like just tell us

1460
01:32:26,300 --> 01:32:30,600
up, straight straight.
Jesus answered, I told you and

1461
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,400
you believe not the works that I
do in my father's name.

1462
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,000
They bear witness of me.
But ye believe not, because you

1463
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,200
are not my sheep.
So he's like, saying I am the

1464
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:43,500
Good Shepherd, but if you don't
believe me, I'm then you're not

1465
01:32:43,500 --> 01:32:44,400
mushy.
I'm not right.

1466
01:32:44,500 --> 01:32:46,100
I'm not the guy for you that
you're that.

1467
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:48,900
You are looking for.
But my sheep do hear my voice

1468
01:32:48,900 --> 01:32:54,000
and and I am here, right?
So so There's the, there's the

1469
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,900
first reference to celebration
of Hanukkah.

1470
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,300
So there's so there's good
reason to celebrate it.

1471
01:33:04,500 --> 01:33:07,900
So where do the candles fit in?
Yeah, good question.

1472
01:33:08,700 --> 01:33:12,600
You know, this goes, this goes
to the idea of the miracle of

1473
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,700
the oil and the lights, right?
There's many miracles that

1474
01:33:15,700 --> 01:33:18,800
happened, but the one that gives
it its name.

1475
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:23,400
The Festival of Lights is
because of the the oil that

1476
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,300
burned for eight days, which was
a menorah, right?

1477
01:33:26,300 --> 01:33:27,400
That's a menorah.
That's right.

1478
01:33:27,500 --> 01:33:31,200
I'm glad You knew that the
menorah is actually the name of

1479
01:33:31,500 --> 01:33:34,000
the Candelabra that's in the
temple and it's the

1480
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:40,600
seven-branched menorah the
seven-branched Candlestick but

1481
01:33:40,900 --> 01:33:45,800
the the candle, the Candelabra
that's used for Hanukkah is

1482
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:50,100
called Hanukkah menorah or more
or more formally, it's called a

1483
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:52,200
Hyundai Kia.
So we have a manure, that's a

1484
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:55,300
seven branch and the Hanukkah is
actually a nine branched

1485
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,200
candlestick.
And the reason why it's nine, it

1486
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:03,400
has has, what's it actually?
Looks very similar.

1487
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,000
You've probably seen them
before, but the one in the

1488
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,400
temple, the seven Branch one has
kind of a central one, that's a

1489
01:34:09,407 --> 01:34:12,700
little taller than the rest, and
then it's got three on each

1490
01:34:12,700 --> 01:34:17,100
side, on the left and the right,
the huh new Kia is similar

1491
01:34:17,100 --> 01:34:20,600
design, but it has one that's a
little higher and usually in the

1492
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:25,300
middle although not always and
then kind of four branches on

1493
01:34:25,300 --> 01:34:27,400
each side and those four
branches.

1494
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:29,600
Has on each side for a total of
eight branches.

1495
01:34:29,700 --> 01:34:32,400
Those are for the eight days of
Hanukkah but then they have,

1496
01:34:32,500 --> 01:34:35,700
it's really interesting because
there's that one that one candle

1497
01:34:35,700 --> 01:34:39,800
that is elevated Above the Rest.
And that holds the candle that

1498
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:44,500
is called the shamash the
shamash is the servant candle

1499
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:48,800
and that on each night of
Hanukkah, on the first night of

1500
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:54,100
Hanukkah, you'll put one candle
in the first branch and then

1501
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:57,400
also a candle in the higher
elevated.

1502
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,600
Through the marsh bondservant,
spot.

1503
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:01,300
Yeah.
And then that's lit lit.

1504
01:35:01,300 --> 01:35:06,500
First, and then that candle the
show the shamash comes down and

1505
01:35:06,500 --> 01:35:09,400
lights.
The other candles, you know,

1506
01:35:09,407 --> 01:35:11,000
there's, there's so much
symbolism.

1507
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,200
You can draw from that, right?
I mean, my first thought is

1508
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:18,600
that, I think that's that's
pattern for us those who have

1509
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:23,600
been received the gospel, right?
We've received the light, we

1510
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,200
need to be passing that out.
Absolutely.

1511
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,900
And and I can't think of Of a
better time of year to do that.

1512
01:35:29,900 --> 01:35:32,200
Look, whether you celebrate
Hanukkah or Christmas,

1513
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,400
everybody's a little happier.
Everyone will more willing to to

1514
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:40,900
talk about what they believe in.
And You Gotta Love That season

1515
01:35:41,900 --> 01:35:46,400
for the season of openness, it
is and of Charity and love.

1516
01:35:46,500 --> 01:35:51,700
Absolutely.
And and I always felt like as as

1517
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,700
As a guy who kind of loves this
time of year and I mean it's a

1518
01:35:55,708 --> 01:35:58,800
big deal around our house, we go
all out, it's not for amateurs,

1519
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:02,200
right?
It's one of those times where I

1520
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,500
feel like as Disciples of Christ
we might have a greater

1521
01:36:05,500 --> 01:36:11,600
responsibility to spread his
light this time of year and I

1522
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:16,000
never knew that and so you
describe this idea of a servant

1523
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:17,900
candle?
Yeah, right.

1524
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:22,900
I think it's beautiful so it's
you know, as Christians Can

1525
01:36:22,900 --> 01:36:27,100
certainly, we should certainly
think about the times when Jesus

1526
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:31,800
said I am the light and the life
of the world and I'm the light

1527
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,500
that came into the world.
I say, in John chapter 1, he

1528
01:36:34,500 --> 01:36:39,500
says, I am John says that Jesus
is the light that lights every

1529
01:36:39,500 --> 01:36:42,100
man, right?
And we have, we're all entitled

1530
01:36:42,100 --> 01:36:46,200
to This Light of Christ which is
a source of guidance and

1531
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:50,100
Revelation for every person who
comes into the world.

1532
01:36:50,108 --> 01:36:53,900
And, you know, that the source
of that At light for us, you

1533
01:36:53,900 --> 01:36:59,500
comes through Christ.
And so he is, he is the ultimate

1534
01:36:59,500 --> 01:37:04,300
servant who has condescended or
come down right to share the

1535
01:37:04,300 --> 01:37:10,000
light, you know, with as a Son
of God with his Brethren here on

1536
01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:13,800
on earth, right?
So, there is that aspect and

1537
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,800
then I love what you said.
I was going to bring that up to

1538
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:20,500
is that once we are lit.
Then we are also Candles for the

1539
01:37:20,500 --> 01:37:23,600
Lord, you know, Proverbs Chapter
20.

1540
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:25,200
We don't remember the verse I
think.

1541
01:37:25,700 --> 01:37:29,900
Anyway, in Proverbs chapter 28,
says that the spirit of man is

1542
01:37:29,900 --> 01:37:34,500
the candle of the lord.
We are light.

1543
01:37:34,500 --> 01:37:40,300
We are, we are his lights, his
representatives, and on the

1544
01:37:40,300 --> 01:37:46,000
earth and in a real way, we are,
we bear the image of God and we

1545
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:50,700
are supposed to hold that up as
As a light to the world.

1546
01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:56,300
You know, Jesus says to not to
put your candle under a bushel,

1547
01:37:56,300 --> 01:37:57,100
right?
Yeah.

1548
01:37:57,100 --> 01:38:00,300
The gospel of Matthew was
originally written in Hebrew and

1549
01:38:00,300 --> 01:38:04,400
it's the Hebrew.
There is Jesus says, don't put

1550
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:09,800
your Menorah under a bushel but,
you know, set it out on the

1551
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:14,500
table where will give light to
everyone in the room and so any.

1552
01:38:14,500 --> 01:38:18,300
So there's a, there's a real
call for us to to be both

1553
01:38:18,300 --> 01:38:22,000
grateful for the light that we
I've received and also to

1554
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,400
remember that kind of
responsibility that we have to

1555
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,500
share that light to pass it
along rides around us.

1556
01:38:27,500 --> 01:38:28,800
Yeah.
And we can think of both those

1557
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,400
things.
So you have no, that's that's

1558
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:35,000
awesome.
Is there any other symbolism

1559
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:39,500
that goes with that?
That's the, those are the main

1560
01:38:39,500 --> 01:38:42,400
things, then then of course.
And then, of course, as I said,

1561
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:47,600
it's there are eight.
Branches, and so, so each each

1562
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,600
night, and this is, this is
tradition.

1563
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:53,700
Of course, is not laid out, in
Maccabees are insured, but it's

1564
01:38:53,700 --> 01:38:57,100
a beautiful tradition on the
first night, there will be one

1565
01:38:57,100 --> 01:38:59,500
candle.
Plus the shaman second night,

1566
01:38:59,500 --> 01:39:02,300
they'll be two candles, plus a
shamisen three and four.

1567
01:39:02,300 --> 01:39:06,400
And so each night the light just
is growing.

1568
01:39:08,700 --> 01:39:11,800
And you know that's that's just
a that's just kind of a symbolic

1569
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:17,700
hope as well that we hope that
you know that the scriptures are

1570
01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:22,000
full of images like this.
We hope for the kingdom of God,

1571
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,500
to grow and to spread and we
hope for that, that little stone

1572
01:39:26,500 --> 01:39:29,200
that was cut out of the mountain
to roll and to grow, larger and

1573
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,300
larger, and we hope that the
light will get brighter and

1574
01:39:32,300 --> 01:39:36,600
brighter, and we know that the
darkness is, is getting deeper

1575
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:43,300
and deeper as As well.
But but but ideally the children

1576
01:39:43,300 --> 01:39:47,000
of light that the scriptures
rights will be able to keep up

1577
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:53,400
with and fend off those powers
of darkness and spread the light

1578
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,000
in spite of this increasing
darkness.

1579
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,200
And it's interesting too because
just the time of year, of course

1580
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:04,900
is yeah, is in the winter and
it's and it's near the solstice.

1581
01:40:04,900 --> 01:40:06,600
It's not always it's not on the
solstice.

1582
01:40:07,500 --> 01:40:10,800
It's Hanukkah is in near the
solstice and so like, the days

1583
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:14,200
are getting darker and darker,
but we are adding a candle every

1584
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:15,800
night and it's getting brighter
and brighter.

1585
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,100
Another tradition about the
Hanukkah actually.

1586
01:40:18,100 --> 01:40:21,300
And this goes with the this
Commandment that Jesus gives us

1587
01:40:21,300 --> 01:40:26,300
to to share our light.
The tradition is that the new

1588
01:40:26,300 --> 01:40:30,900
Kia is not not supposed to be
set up, you know, you know,

1589
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:33,800
inside your inside your house
somewhere, where no one can see

1590
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,300
it, you're supposed to put it
like, on the window sill, right?

1591
01:40:36,500 --> 01:40:41,300
So that I'm passing by can look
and see light coming out of your

1592
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,600
house so to speak.
Literally.

1593
01:40:44,900 --> 01:40:47,400
Yeah, yeah.
And so that's the other

1594
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:48,900
beautiful things about that too.
You know.

1595
01:40:48,900 --> 01:40:54,000
And one of the things too is
that and it always becomes more

1596
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:58,500
pronounced around this time of
year Christmas and Hanukkah is

1597
01:40:58,500 --> 01:41:03,300
that it doesn't take a lot of
light to make the darkness flee.

1598
01:41:03,500 --> 01:41:07,300
Mmm-hmm right?
I mean, as it gets darker White,

1599
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:11,300
It becomes more pronounced.
Yeah does and and sometimes I

1600
01:41:11,300 --> 01:41:14,200
think we sell ourselves short
that that maybe we're not doing

1601
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:17,100
enough but sometimes just being
us, right?

1602
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:21,800
Is and doing the best we can
will not only light our way but

1603
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,300
we don't know who's way it will
light.

1604
01:41:24,300 --> 01:41:25,100
Yeah.
Amen.

1605
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:30,300
I mean it's a It does.
You said it perfectly?

1606
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:34,700
Especially when it's dark,
right?

1607
01:41:35,500 --> 01:41:38,200
And I think we're light stands
out in an amazing way.

1608
01:41:38,300 --> 01:41:39,700
Yeah.
And I think we're coming into a

1609
01:41:39,700 --> 01:41:43,300
time where it's going to take
all of us to be lit, so to speak

1610
01:41:43,500 --> 01:41:46,400
that's lit in a spiritual way.
Not an alcoholic kind of like,

1611
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:50,700
but lit lit in a way that I just
met.

1612
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,600
This is horrible.
I just immediately had visions

1613
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:56,300
of everyone going to boost but
anyway, for for us to be

1614
01:41:56,500 --> 01:41:59,800
enlightened.
And right by the Lord's count so

1615
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,500
that we can spread that around
to those who are in need.

1616
01:42:02,500 --> 01:42:04,400
Yeah, because they're going to
go somewhere, right?

1617
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:08,200
As it gets darker, they'll
either fall into the darkness or

1618
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,600
we can be the light to be like,
don't go that way.

1619
01:42:10,900 --> 01:42:14,200
There's no need.
Yeah, we can go this way.

1620
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:18,300
There's a there.
Is a humans are complex, you

1621
01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:19,300
know?
Oh yeah, we're not.

1622
01:42:19,300 --> 01:42:21,900
Like, we're not like moths.
We're just kind of blindly

1623
01:42:21,900 --> 01:42:25,100
attracted to light and Flames,
but but there is kind of a

1624
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:30,500
metaphor there and and No one
knows that feeling of coming out

1625
01:42:30,500 --> 01:42:33,400
of the cold into the warmth or
out of the darkness into light.

1626
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,900
And there's, there's Comfort
there and there's definitely

1627
01:42:36,300 --> 01:42:40,300
something both like physically
satisfying but Also spiritually,

1628
01:42:40,300 --> 01:42:43,600
satisfying, that that we want
some light.

1629
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,600
Yeah.
And, and I think there could be

1630
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:51,200
more, but people are, people are
afraid, sometimes they are and

1631
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:54,100
to share it.
Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah,

1632
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:57,200
that's really the trick is
getting over that fear, but But

1633
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:03,900
yeah, now there's, we are having
our party on the 23rd, but on

1634
01:43:03,900 --> 01:43:08,300
the 18th.
So this is the, on the zarahemla

1635
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:09,400
calendar.
This is going to be the day

1636
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,000
before.
This is the Sunday, 18th is

1637
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,900
Sunday.
So at in the afternoon and this

1638
01:43:14,900 --> 01:43:17,700
will be on the website to we're
going to we're actually going to

1639
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:21,500
make candles.
So I know if you've ever dipped

1640
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,000
you know you have not I have not
had it with candles.

1641
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,200
Yeah yeah.
So we're gonna we're gonna We're

1642
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:30,800
going to dip a whole set of
Hanukkah candles, you know, for

1643
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,400
anyone who wants to.
And I don't remember off the top

1644
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:35,900
of my head now, but it's, you
know, it's a two on the first

1645
01:43:35,900 --> 01:43:38,400
night and then three, four,
five, six, seven.

1646
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,400
So, whatever that adds up to,
it's 40 or 50 candles, something

1647
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,000
like that.
Wow, that you need for a full

1648
01:43:44,100 --> 01:43:47,000
for 100 Kia to have all the
candles you need.

1649
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,500
So, that's okay.
So that's kind of a fun activity

1650
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:54,200
for the kids and stuff.
Absolutely sounds great.

1651
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:59,200
Other thing is that eating
cheese or dairy things.

1652
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,900
So also get right deep fried
stuff and dairy like what could

1653
01:44:03,300 --> 01:44:06,200
what could be better than that.
The reason why I'm all-in I'm

1654
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:10,200
going to have to buy some Tums
so I need some yeah bring some

1655
01:44:10,300 --> 01:44:13,800
mozzarella sticks.
Like that's the reason why they

1656
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:15,800
do that is.
There's actually three three

1657
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:21,100
books in the Apocrypha that are
related to the story of to The

1658
01:44:21,100 --> 01:44:23,800
Maccabees.
Well, maybe more it kind of

1659
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,400
depends actually there's There's
different versions of the

1660
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:31,800
Septuagint that were around
ancient lie and not all

1661
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:37,300
Christian denominations, agree
on what the the apocryphal books

1662
01:44:37,300 --> 01:44:40,200
are supposed to be there.
Sometimes called the Deuter

1663
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:43,600
deuterocanonical books, the
second Cannon, right?

1664
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:49,600
So, anyway, it's about 15 to 18
books but in the, in the King

1665
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,200
James Apocrypha, there was first
and second Maccabees, but in

1666
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:57,400
some of the other Some of the
other, you know, Eastern

1667
01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:00,100
Orthodox, I think has there's
like a third and a fourth

1668
01:45:00,100 --> 01:45:02,200
Maccabees as well.
Which are kind of related to the

1669
01:45:02,208 --> 01:45:05,000
story as well.
But the other anyway, long story

1670
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,000
short, the other the other book
that's in the Apocrypha is the

1671
01:45:07,008 --> 01:45:11,900
book of Judith.
And so she's traditionally she

1672
01:45:11,900 --> 01:45:19,700
is the niece of Judah Maccabee.
And she's a widow and she

1673
01:45:19,700 --> 01:45:25,200
basically single-handedly saves
her little city from the Syrian

1674
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,500
Army.
That's have you heard of Judith

1675
01:45:28,500 --> 01:45:33,100
are the story of Judith.
So she's kind of she's this

1676
01:45:33,300 --> 01:45:38,400
female heroine, like kind of
like Ester or Yael.

1677
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,700
The story of yellin right,
judges, right?

1678
01:45:40,700 --> 01:45:42,800
Where she like pounds of steak
through the guy's head while

1679
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,300
he's sleeping.
It's kind of its kind of that

1680
01:45:45,300 --> 01:45:47,700
kind of story, but she She's
very beautiful.

1681
01:45:47,700 --> 01:45:49,400
She's a widow.
The city's.

1682
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:50,600
I'll give you the short version
here.

1683
01:45:50,900 --> 01:45:58,500
The city's is being what's it
called when they barricade?

1684
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,600
And they like try to sort of
scotch sees yet they're under

1685
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:02,300
siege.
Thank you.

1686
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:06,200
And so she and their Foods
running out and they're going to

1687
01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:11,700
gonna die gonna die.
So she the elders in the city

1688
01:46:11,700 --> 01:46:14,600
they say, unless God does
something to save us in five

1689
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:18,000
days, we're going to surrender.
And she like chastises them says

1690
01:46:18,300 --> 01:46:20,400
how can you put a timetable on?
God, like you should not do

1691
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,000
this.
You should be faithful and wait

1692
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,100
for God to do it whenever he's
ready.

1693
01:46:24,900 --> 01:46:27,100
But she has.
She has an idea.

1694
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:32,800
So she actually leaves the camp.
She brings her made with her and

1695
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,800
she brings a bunch of food that
she can eat.

1696
01:46:35,808 --> 01:46:40,500
She brings a bunch of like
cheese and wine and she goes to

1697
01:46:40,500 --> 01:46:43,600
the Assyrian camp and ask to see
their General.

1698
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:50,200
And basically tells him I'm
going to help you take the city.

1699
01:46:52,500 --> 01:46:54,600
And I'm going to I'm going to
end, this is how it's going to

1700
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:56,700
happen.
So they're under siege, they're

1701
01:46:56,700 --> 01:47:00,300
running out of food at some
point, they're going to start

1702
01:47:00,500 --> 01:47:05,100
eating pigs and horses and
unclean stuff because they're

1703
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:07,100
running out of food.
And when they do that then they

1704
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:09,300
will be breaking God's
Commandments and then he won't

1705
01:47:09,300 --> 01:47:12,100
bless them.
But you have to wait until that

1706
01:47:12,100 --> 01:47:13,700
happens.
Otherwise you won't have God

1707
01:47:13,700 --> 01:47:16,500
will be with them and you want
me to tape so the general his

1708
01:47:16,500 --> 01:47:18,900
name's holofernes?
He says, okay great.

1709
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,800
This is great.
He tells everyone he Scamp leave

1710
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:25,400
these two women alone and they
they're going to go back to the

1711
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:29,200
town back and forth in between
the town and the camp, every day

1712
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:32,500
to find out news of when they're
running out of food or whatever.

1713
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:37,000
So she does this for a couple of
nights goes back and forth.

1714
01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:41,700
And and then finally she tells
she tells the general she's

1715
01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:45,000
like, hey there they're going to
be they've just run out of food

1716
01:47:45,500 --> 01:47:50,700
and so it's only going to be
like two days from now.

1717
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:54,000
They're going to starvation is
going to push them towards

1718
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:56,100
breaking the Commandments and
then you'll be able to take the

1719
01:47:56,100 --> 01:47:58,200
city and he's like great.
This is great.

1720
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:01,500
Let's celebrate in and he
invites her to dinner in his

1721
01:48:01,500 --> 01:48:06,100
tent and And he wants, he wants
to she's beautiful, and he wants

1722
01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:09,200
to seduce her as well.
And she knows that she's kind of

1723
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,800
playing the seductress.
And so she says, oh, I'd love to

1724
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:15,000
join you for this party.
And she pulls out her basket of

1725
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,000
cheese, and she's like, this is
my homemade cheese.

1726
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:19,300
It's the best.
And look, this is my homemade

1727
01:48:19,300 --> 01:48:23,500
wine and, and holofernes tells
all his his meant like leave the

1728
01:48:23,500 --> 01:48:25,400
tent because he wants to be
alone with her, right?

1729
01:48:25,700 --> 01:48:28,900
And she like, basically stuff
him full of cheese and gets him

1730
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:34,700
slobbering drunk with this wine.
That she Made and he passes out

1731
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:39,600
and she rolls him onto his
stomach and pulls out his sword

1732
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:43,300
and cuts off his head while he's
asleep and then puts it in the

1733
01:48:43,300 --> 01:48:47,200
basket where all the cheese was.
And then there's like, walks out

1734
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:50,800
of the tent quietly and no one
disturbs her, and she runs to

1735
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,500
the town and says everyone get
ready to go attack.

1736
01:48:53,500 --> 01:48:58,600
The, because the Syrian Army
right now, because you need to,

1737
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:03,200
like, attack them at the first
light of day, they will not

1738
01:49:03,300 --> 01:49:07,800
Expecting it and and also I have
the head of the general, right?

1739
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:13,500
And so like they do like they go
attack the syrians and they like

1740
01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:18,000
go to hold of her knees
tent-like General.

1741
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,500
General, they're coming.
No answer.

1742
01:49:20,500 --> 01:49:21,700
No answer it.
Open it.

1743
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:24,900
The Headless General is on the
and then they just scattered

1744
01:49:24,900 --> 01:49:28,100
Yeahs fear and and disarray.
And so tell you what, people

1745
01:49:28,100 --> 01:49:30,600
often say, they don't read the
scriptures because they find

1746
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:34,400
them boring and I'm like, man
that There's some straight-up

1747
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,500
gangster stuff in the
scriptures, right?

1748
01:49:37,500 --> 01:49:41,500
Like there's some straight up,
you know, action film, kind of

1749
01:49:41,500 --> 01:49:44,600
stuff.
So yeah, so Judith is the saves

1750
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:48,700
the day there and so eating
cheese is also, that's awesome.

1751
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,200
Part is on the on the menu 49
Hanukkah.

1752
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,700
Nice.
All right.

1753
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:55,600
Well, dude, that's, that's good
stuff.

1754
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:58,900
I, I'll definitely be there for
the 23rd.

1755
01:49:58,900 --> 01:50:00,400
That sounds.
That sounds fun.

1756
01:50:00,700 --> 01:50:03,100
What would we miss?
Would we gloss over in?

1757
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,400
Me constantly distracting you
with my questions.

1758
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:07,500
No, you did good.
I was I was going to mention one

1759
01:50:07,500 --> 01:50:11,000
last thing.
Sure, one of the reasons why,

1760
01:50:12,500 --> 01:50:15,700
you know, Martin Luther and
other Protestants didn't really

1761
01:50:15,700 --> 01:50:19,400
like the Apocrypha was because
of second Maccabees.

1762
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:23,800
And that was, and that was kind
of understandable because you

1763
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:25,500
Martin Luther with the 95
Theses.

1764
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:29,300
He saw this, these abuses that
were happening with indulgences.

1765
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,500
And part of the part of the
abuse was that the pope was

1766
01:50:33,500 --> 01:50:38,900
basically saying, hey, if you
give me some more money, then

1767
01:50:38,900 --> 01:50:42,000
I'll give you a little
certificate that says that your

1768
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:47,000
relative can take some time off
of their sentence in purgatory.

1769
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:49,300
Well, you know.
Yeah.

1770
01:50:50,300 --> 01:50:55,700
And so, he did not like he saw
these tremendous abuses and

1771
01:50:55,700 --> 01:50:59,900
basically the pope like holding
the salvation of people Dead

1772
01:50:59,900 --> 01:51:02,700
relatives over them in order to
milk money out of them.

1773
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:05,600
Right?
So, he didn't like that, but in

1774
01:51:07,100 --> 01:51:10,800
he basically said, Martin,
Luther's, like we can't we can't

1775
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,600
do anything for the dead.
We have no power over their

1776
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:20,600
salvation or whatever, but in
second Maccabees chapter 12, I

1777
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:28,200
think There's this, there's this
episode, I'm just going to read

1778
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:28,900
it.
Sure.

1779
01:51:29,500 --> 01:51:31,600
It's pretty amazing, you know,
if you're Mormon, you'll

1780
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:35,500
appreciate this obviously.
So after the there's this

1781
01:51:35,500 --> 01:51:45,700
battle, So they the see ya after
the battle Judas LED, his men.

1782
01:51:45,700 --> 01:51:49,900
This is in verse 38 of chapter
12, like I said, second

1783
01:51:49,900 --> 01:51:51,500
Maccabees after the battle
Judas.

1784
01:51:51,500 --> 01:51:53,400
LED his men to the town of a
dual.

1785
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,900
Mm.
It was the day before the

1786
01:51:55,900 --> 01:51:57,600
Sabbath.
So they purified themselves,

1787
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:01,000
according to Jewish custom and
they observe the holy day by the

1788
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,700
following day.
It was urgent that they gather

1789
01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:06,300
up the bodies of the men who had
been killed in battle and bury

1790
01:52:06,300 --> 01:52:09,100
them in their family tombs.
Now, this is interesting because

1791
01:52:09,100 --> 01:52:14,200
they Judah and his men, they had
kind of some Stripling Warrior

1792
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:16,300
kind of battles were like, no
one was injured.

1793
01:52:16,300 --> 01:52:19,700
Like they just killed hundreds
of Greeks and not a single.

1794
01:52:19,700 --> 01:52:23,100
One of them was injured.
So, in this particular battle is

1795
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:26,200
talking about is again, like,
pretty much everyone is

1796
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,700
unscathed, but there's like this
handful of guys who died.

1797
01:52:29,100 --> 01:52:34,300
So, anyway, so so it was urgent
that they gather at the bodies

1798
01:52:34,300 --> 01:52:36,800
of the men who had been killed
in battle and bury them in their

1799
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:39,800
family tombs, but on each of the
Dead.

1800
01:52:40,100 --> 01:52:43,500
Hidden underneath their clothes.
They found small images of the

1801
01:52:43,500 --> 01:52:46,600
Gods worshipped in Jama know
which the law forbids you to

1802
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:48,100
choose to wear.
So I had these little islands

1803
01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:53,900
around, Iraq, right?
And so, So they praised the ways

1804
01:52:53,900 --> 01:52:56,700
of the Lord just judge who
reveals what is hidden and they,

1805
01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:01,600
and they begged him that this
sin might be completely blotted

1806
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,300
out, so they're praying for the
dead.

1807
01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:05,700
Then Judas.
That great, man, urged, the

1808
01:53:05,700 --> 01:53:08,200
people to keep away from sin
because they had seen for

1809
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:09,900
themselves.
What had happened to those men

1810
01:53:09,900 --> 01:53:12,400
who had sinned.
And he also took up a collection

1811
01:53:12,500 --> 01:53:15,200
from all his men totaling about
four pounds of silver and sent

1812
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,700
it to Jerusalem to provide for a
sin offering.

1813
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:21,500
Judas did this Noble thing.
Because he believed in the

1814
01:53:21,508 --> 01:53:24,800
resurrection of the dead and if
he had not believed that the

1815
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,400
dead would be raised, it would
have been foolish and useless to

1816
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,600
pray for them.
But in his firm and devout

1817
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,200
conviction, that all of God's
faithful, people would receive a

1818
01:53:32,208 --> 01:53:35,900
wonderful reward Judas made
provision for a sin offering to

1819
01:53:35,900 --> 01:53:39,400
set free from their sin.
Those who had died.

1820
01:53:39,700 --> 01:53:41,800
Wow.
So he's basically doing

1821
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:46,300
vicarious work for the dead but
he's but they're doing the

1822
01:53:46,300 --> 01:53:49,000
ironic ordinances, right?
But I said, yeah, but they're

1823
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:52,900
doing sacrifice, you know, soon.
Frank's vicariously for these

1824
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:54,900
deaths.
So cool and that's one of those

1825
01:53:54,900 --> 01:53:58,900
things where it's like I've
said, for a long time, it's one

1826
01:53:58,900 --> 01:54:03,200
of the reasons I love talking to
Ken Peterson and and and and,

1827
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:07,400
you know, Hannah Stoddard is
that as Mormons, we have every

1828
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:10,100
right.
And every reason to believe that

1829
01:54:10,100 --> 01:54:13,700
our faith is historical, right?
And that just, that just shows

1830
01:54:13,700 --> 01:54:16,100
there for so long.
We hung vicarious work on the

1831
01:54:16,100 --> 01:54:19,400
dead alone on what Paul says
about, you know, right in

1832
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:22,500
Corinthians about but But you
have it all the way back in the,

1833
01:54:22,700 --> 01:54:26,400
you know, in the temple.
Yeah, absolutely.

1834
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,600
In the Old Testament period
vicarious work for the dead as

1835
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,700
Mormons, we should expect to see
that.

1836
01:54:31,700 --> 01:54:35,200
And I think, as more and more
books and this is the other

1837
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:36,400
thing.
People forget about the

1838
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,400
Apocrypha, it's growing all the
time.

1839
01:54:39,100 --> 01:54:42,500
As we discover more and more
ancient text, it's growing all

1840
01:54:42,500 --> 01:54:47,800
the time and so in doing, so
we're starting to see Certain

1841
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:51,100
Mormon teachings being brought
to the Forefront in ancient

1842
01:54:51,100 --> 01:54:55,300
documents, I think it's, it's
absolutely awesome.

1843
01:54:56,200 --> 01:55:00,700
So okay, also I've got I think
well I just want to wrap up with

1844
01:55:00,700 --> 01:55:05,600
this.
Is that We all have holidays

1845
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,100
that that are familiar to us
because that's how we were

1846
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:12,000
brought up, right, right.
Those Jewish ones.

1847
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:16,800
Maybe not so much but I see no
reason at all where where you

1848
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,800
can't have Christmas and
Hanukkah too.

1849
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,900
Yeah there is nothing.
There that tells me that those

1850
01:55:22,900 --> 01:55:27,600
things can't go together and
have crossover in in snow cone

1851
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,600
machine, fell Hanukkah.
Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

1852
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:35,000
And and so I know no, I have
certainly been enriched as I've

1853
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:41,600
studied out these these the, the
Jewish calendar because So many

1854
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:46,000
of them walk hand in hand, I
think you can definitely see God

1855
01:55:46,900 --> 01:55:51,200
putting types and shadows here
until we got a better handle on

1856
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:55,800
things and and so this season
just read second Maccabees it's

1857
01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:58,500
an inspiring story.
I mean it's the kind of story.

1858
01:55:58,500 --> 01:56:01,500
Mel Gibson was trying to get it.
He was, he was trying to get a

1859
01:56:01,500 --> 01:56:03,800
Maccabees movie.
Oh, really man, who would make a

1860
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:05,200
great movie and make a great
movie?

1861
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,100
It's very brave.
Heart ask right?

1862
01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:10,600
I mean, and so I am doing
research for this episode.

1863
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,900
But I found that that he's got a
full script that's waiting for

1864
01:56:13,900 --> 01:56:15,800
someone to want to, that's cool.
Yeah.

1865
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:18,600
So I mean get out your dreidels
yet.

1866
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,800
One other thing, I forgot
celebration the dreidels, of

1867
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,200
course, dreidel game.
You know, there's has the Hebrew

1868
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:28,800
letters on it and Hebrew letters
aren't actually an acronym for a

1869
01:56:28,808 --> 01:56:29,800
sentence.
Okay.

1870
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:35,700
There's a, there's a noon gimel.
Hey, and a shin.

1871
01:56:35,700 --> 01:56:37,600
Okay.
So those are the four letters

1872
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:39,700
around it, but it stands for a
Hebrew sentence.

1873
01:56:39,700 --> 01:56:44,700
Nace gudell, Haya sham, nace's
Miracle.

1874
01:56:44,900 --> 01:56:51,500
Good ol is great, hiya is
occurred, or was, and Sharm

1875
01:56:51,500 --> 01:56:55,000
means they're so the that when
you spin the dreidel, it says it

1876
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:57,700
goes around and around and
around Saying A great miracle

1877
01:56:57,700 --> 01:57:00,800
happened there, huh?
So that's the that's awesome.

1878
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,400
You can look up the rules.
Yeah, it's a fun game.

1879
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,000
We like to play.
Play it and that's awesome.

1880
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:11,400
All right, so it's tough.
So the the Hanukkah party on the

1881
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:12,700
23rd.
Yep.

1882
01:57:12,700 --> 01:57:16,300
And they can get all that info
at zarahemla, Facebook pages.

1883
01:57:16,300 --> 01:57:17,000
Yep.
Yeah.

1884
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:18,600
I don't know if it's been posted
yet.

1885
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:21,300
Probably has been, but it'll
probably be will probably start,

1886
01:57:21,700 --> 01:57:25,300
you know, five or six in the
evening and awesome and the

1887
01:57:25,500 --> 01:57:28,300
first and second book of
Maccabees, that's where they can

1888
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,200
experience that and the Book of
Judith also in the highly

1889
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:32,200
recommend.
Okay.

1890
01:57:32,500 --> 01:57:36,700
And then, what about if Someone
is interested in kind of keeping

1891
01:57:36,700 --> 01:57:38,400
Hanukkah.
Where they, where can they find

1892
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:40,200
information on that?
Yeah.

1893
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,800
Again, I mean, I'll say the same
things I've kind of said before,

1894
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:46,000
there's a website called Hebrew
for Christians.

1895
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:49,800
Okay.
That's a really good and and

1896
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,700
there's a number of other books
that you can get.

1897
01:57:52,700 --> 01:57:59,000
The just have kind of kind of a
brief beginners synopsis of the

1898
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:02,800
biblical feast and you even
biblical Feast from a Christian

1899
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,500
point of view.
And there there's a number of

1900
01:58:05,500 --> 01:58:08,600
excellent ones so just go on
Amazon or whatever.

1901
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:10,300
Awesome.
All right.

1902
01:58:10,300 --> 01:58:14,600
Well, dude, that that's great.
Next one's Purim and is right,

1903
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,200
let me ask Esther, let me ask
you this question.

1904
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:20,900
When is Hanukkah this year?
So it's, you know, I was afraid.

1905
01:58:20,900 --> 01:58:25,200
You were going to ask that.
I want to say that it starts on

1906
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:27,800
the about the 18th of December,
okay?

1907
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:34,400
And goes to, Go through like the
25th or 26th may be.

1908
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:36,900
So, there you go.
Overlap overlaps with Christmas

1909
01:58:36,900 --> 01:58:37,900
this year.
Nice.

1910
01:58:38,900 --> 01:58:40,900
So I don't have the exact dates
but it's about.

1911
01:58:40,900 --> 01:58:43,200
Okay, you can find that on the
thank you, really?

1912
01:58:43,300 --> 01:58:47,000
Yeah, awesome.
All right, well go read.

1913
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:51,100
Maccabees get, I feel like that
book to is really good to read

1914
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:53,900
towards the end of the year,
those books because kind of

1915
01:58:53,900 --> 01:58:55,700
fires you up and get you ready
for?

1916
01:58:55,700 --> 01:58:59,200
Whatever is coming the next year
but all right, Joshua dude, it's

1917
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:00,900
always awesome.
I appreciate it measure.

1918
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:02,900
All right.
Bye everybody.