Episode #199: Making Sense Of Current Events W/David Pyne

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The you're listening to the
Mormon Renegade podcast.

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David pine #3 man at at #3 you
know, I'd like to get a studio

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and then like, if you've been on
three times, we'll just give you

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your own chair and we we can go
that way.

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So it's been it's been a hot
minute since we talked.

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The last time we talked, it was
right before the election and we

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have now moved, moved well past
out.

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We're six months in now, almost
six months to the day of, of

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Trump taking office and nothing
slowed down.

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We, we are, we are busier now
than we were before.

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I, I want to start with Iran and
Israel because I feel like that

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this is the one that that quite
frankly could mushroom out the

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most.
And you can correct me if I'm

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wrong on that, but why did
Israel strike Iran?

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Well, first of all, let me thank
you for having me on your show

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again.
It's a it's a pleasure, Israel.

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First of all, Netanyahu is, you
know, he's a bit of a hot head.

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Obviously, he's invaded and
bombed multiple countries in his

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latest tenure as Prime Minister,
unnecessarily for the most part.

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Obviously, he had to respond
literally to Moss.

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But with regards to decision to
bomb Iran, you know, Israeli

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leaders from Bush onward, Bush
to Biden, now to Trump, of

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course, have been pushing US
presidents to give them

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authorization and support to, to
bomb Iran, not just to hit their

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nuclear sites, but to try to
affect some kind of regime

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change, to degrade them
militarily in a very serious,

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serious way.
And Trump is the 1st president

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who authorized it.
You know, George W Bush, he

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would not give his Israel the
friend or foe code, codes they

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needed to bomb Iranian nuclear
sites.

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Obvious.
And obviously Obama or Biden

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would not either.
And Trump didn't during his

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first term.
But you know, his his first term

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was marked by, you know, America
first statements and neo con

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foreign policies for the most
part, with the exception of the

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withdrawal of from Afghanistan.
And now, you know, this time

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around, he had a very promising
start, amazing policies and and

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measures, you know, especially
with cutting off aid to Ukraine

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for just one week,
unfortunately, But that was a

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really bold measure.
And now he he's given in to to

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his the the bad advice of his
deep state neo con war

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monitoring advisors and green
lighted the Israeli bombing of

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Iran.
I think that, you know,

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President Trump's decision to
strike Iran was, you know, was

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based on false pretenses.
You know, he had been sold a

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bill of goods at the by the
Israelis and their agents within

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the US government, within the
Trump cabinet that, you know,

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Iran was two weeks away from
developing their first atomic

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weapons or nuclear weapons and
we needed to act.

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I mean this we've heard the same
story.

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I, I'm old enough to remember,
you know, the last 20 years

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we've heard, we've heard that
Iran is months or weeks or even

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days away from getting a nuke.
And I.

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Remember right after 911, George
Bush came out and said they are

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part of the axis of evil.
And back then they were five

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years away from developing a, a,
a nuclear weapon.

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And then I guess it's maintained
it five years for 20 plus years

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until just a few weeks ago.
Yeah, and that's and that really

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destroys their entire argument
because if they were true, if if

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that were true, that if they
were that close, you know, 20

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plus years ago, they would they
would already have a nuke, you

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know, So there there's just I
mean, the chances of them being

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that close to a nuke, being such
an evil government anti Israel

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terrorist and not developing it
or just are really near 0.

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And to any any pretty, you know,
rational analyst to believe

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otherwise.
I mean, come on, you know, U.S.

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intelligence has been wrong
about everything since Pearl

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Harbor, you know, with the
exception of the Russian

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invasion of Ukraine.
So why should we trust them on

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this either?
It's a, it's just a, it's just

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hard to imagine the cockpit of
dissidents that goes into this,

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this whole mindset, you know,
and, you know, if we didn't do

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it for, for that, what was the
purpose?

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We know that Israel, you know,
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin

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Netanyahu has been trying to go
for regime change in Iran.

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And, and I think, I suspect
that's probably the real reason

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for him being able to to get
Trump to attack Iran.

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So what do you think lies lies
ahead of us now?

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Do you?
Do you foresee more strikes?

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Do you see boots on the ground?
What do you think?

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Where?
Where do we go from here?

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Well, you know, the hard the
hard thing about being a

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national security strategist is
when you have a leaders that

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don't have a national security
strategy.

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You know, Trump has he actually
does have a really good national

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security strategy with regards
to Russia, for example.

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And that's really his overriding
national security strategy was

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at least we were told is that he
wanted to break up the side of

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Russian alliance and establish A
geostrategic partnership with

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Russia that would be based more,
it would be more of an economic

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partnership, but also to some
degree a security partnership.

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And and that was that's
something that he gave up.

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Essentially, he gave that up in
late April or early May and

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decided to pursue Biden's war.
And then with regards to the

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Middle East, you know, he had
promised peace there as well.

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And, and he had this amazing
ceasefire agreement, which, you

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know, was negotiated by the
Biden agreement, but it never

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would have been accepted by the
Israelis without President

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Trump.
He was, he was the reason we got

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to peace in in Gaza for two
months and he decided to

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jettison it.
You know, So I guess what I'm

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saying is, you know, President
Trump has a national security

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strategy.
It's a, it's supposed supposedly

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a strategy of defense
prioritization where we

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prioritize US homeland, a
national, you know, Homeland

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Security as well as the Western
Pacific facing China to try to

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deter their aggression in
Taiwan.

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However, he hasn't followed it.
He's done almost nothing to

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follow that this bold, noble
national security strategy.

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Instead, he's getting diverted
by pursuing Biden's war, arming

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the Ukrainians with more and
more missiles, you know, a

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billions more in weapons that he
said he wouldn't provide.

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And then with the Israelis, you
know, the same thing, wasting

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all of these air defense
missiles, interceptors and and

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other weapons that we need to
deter Chinese aggression against

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Taiwan by defending Israel or
encouraging them to attack Iran.

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So it makes it very difficult
for for me to predict President

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Trump's next move, especially
when he's, you know, he he came

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out and said, hey, I got this
ceasefire, you know, two days

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after he attacked them.
And this is my, he said, this is

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my legacy.
This is what I want to be my

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presidential legacy.
And within days, he's he's like,

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you know, Israel says, yeah,
we'll break it.

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We'll break that ceasefire, you
know, at our our whim if we

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think that Iran is
reconstituting those nuclear

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sites.
And Trump?

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Trump said.
Yeah, I might attack them as

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well.
That's a that's a spooky

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scenario.
Let me ask you this question.

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What do you make of Trump taking
Israel to the woodshed?

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When Israel broke that broke
that ceasefire.

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That is the first time in my and
and that I can remember where an

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American president came that
hard against Israel.

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Well, you know, it's, it was a
great day.

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It was a great day for America
first.

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You know, when he did that, it
was a great day for America

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first when he cut off the aid to
Ukraine for one week.

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The problem is he, he's not
consistent.

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He, he has these these episodes
of, of the the noble America

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first greatest president.
We all voted for that that is

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willing to to go up against the
deep state and, and, you know,

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push him down and, and, you
know, put us first.

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But then, you know, I think it
was the next day or the day

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after he he was basically trying
to sanction Israeli courts or

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something like that and trying
to force them to stop

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prosecuting Benjamin Netanyahu
for severe corruption charges,

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you know, as the most corrupt
Prime Minister in Israeli

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history.
So, you know, I mean, that's

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that's as pro Israel as you get.
And and I still, I still call

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myself pro Israel.
I I'm a, you know, I've always

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been a supporter of the state of
Israel.

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I am a very strong opponent of
Benjamin Netanyahu because I

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think he's a lunatic.
You know, he's attacking A

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bombing every country insight
with no restraint whatsoever.

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You know, he's he's made Israel
a rogue state.

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You know, Israel wants to was
once a, you know, bastion of

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stability in the Middle East,
and now it's it's just creating

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wars left and right, and it's
absolutely against US National

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Security interests.
What changed for Israel to make

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him go that direction, right?
That's look, and and again, I'm

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like you, I have been
traditionally when it came to

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Israel, right or die, right.
I mean, it was, it was that

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tight.
But I'm seeing some things that

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they haven't done historically,
which does make me raise an

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eyebrow.
What do you have any sense of

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what Israel's long game is here?
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Absolutely.
Benjamin Netanyahu has made very

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clear his his he has a couple,
you know, two or three main

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objectives.
The first of which is his

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Greater Israel project, which he
expressed to the president of

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Egypt, I think it was back in
2009, which he he basically came

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out and said we, you know, we
want to annex Gaza.

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We want to deport all the
Palestinians to Sinai, Sinai

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Peninsula.
And he was offering them various

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incentives.
I think that might have included

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financial incentives to persuade
the Egyptian President.

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I think it was sushi that to do
it at the time and they didn't,

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you know, they didn't agree to
it.

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And that's essentially what he's
trying to do now.

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And President Trump is, is
served as an enabler for that

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objective.
It's in articulating his own

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Gaza plan, which initially was a
Gaza was a Palestinian free

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Gaza, you know, which was that's
been Netanyahu's goal all alone.

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And then the most recent one
I've heard is that he would only

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deport about 45% of the
Palestinians.

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He would deport maybe 1,000,000
leaving maybe up to 1.3 million

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left, assuming that Israel
doesn't kill the kill the rest.

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So, you know, neither one of
those are American at all.

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I mean, you know, the idea of
forcibly deporting native

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populations who have lived there
for centuries is something we

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haven't seen since really since
World War 2, which is something

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that the Soviets did and
something that we that we signed

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off on as part of the Alta
agreement.

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So, you know, putting America
first is not about, you know,

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it's not about getting involved
in other countries civil wars

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we're fighting as Israel's wars
or fighting Biden's war in

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Ukraine.
It's about, you know, doing

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exactly what president, what
Pete has stated as Secretary of

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Defense, which is to prioritize
US Homeland Security, strategic

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defenses, President Trump's
golden Dome, and while also

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trying to deter Chinese
aggression in the Pacific.

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Yeah, You know, I'm, I'll be
honest, I am very nervous about

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this Trump administration at
this point.

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There's seems to already be some
dissension in the ranks, right?

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I I know.
Look, it's been great for the

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Internet.
I'm not going to lie.

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All the hey, mom and dad are
fighting tweets between him and

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Elon has kept me somewhat
entertained.

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However, it's just not Elon,
right?

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I mean, you got Tulsi Gabbard.
Who?

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Who like on all accounts, I
mean, she's got a few issues,

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but there were times I thought,
you know, I'd vote for her for

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president, right?
I'm not going to agree with a

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lot, but I think she at least
loves America and isn't going to

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look for a bunch of silly wars
and, and there seems to be some

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fractures happening there.
Do we know 'cause Trump's last

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term, like one of his crowning
achievements was he brokered a

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major peace deal over there in
the Middle East, and this time

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it's the exact opposite?
Do we know what's different this

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time?
Do we have any inclination on

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why he's leaving that platform?
Yeah, I mean, I, I wrote an

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article about it on November
13th of last year, essentially

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entitled Return to the Neocons
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they say, you know, who you who
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personnel's policies, what they
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So in other words, Trump's
cabinet, who he decided to

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appoint, they're the ones who
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basically the modern day Henry
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He's he's running the State
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heading the national security
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So, you know, that's that's a
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for it.
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supportive of that.
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essentially the arch arch neo
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replacing Mike Walls, who
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In course, President Trump was,
you know, very inspired to fire

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Waltz, but the irony is he fired
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I think it was, you know, just

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just the 1st of May essentially.
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because he was conspiring with
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So what was, what was the point
of firing his national security

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advisor when that's exactly what
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inspired and impressed when,

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when he did that.
I'm like, he's, he's putting

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America first.
He's not going to fight Israel's

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war.
He's not he's not going to

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attack Iran.
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trap.
You know, essentially you can

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answer your previous question
that I didn't fully respond to

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in the in the last question is
that, you know, Prime Minister

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Netanyahu, his his main
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It's not just, it's not greater
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really Israeli hegemony in the
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And he viewed rightly views Iran
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obtaining Israeli hegemony.
And of course, you know, there's

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legitimate reasons for for him
to hate Iran because Iran, of

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course, has been supporting all
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Hezbollah, the Houthis, the
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them and you know, they are all,
they've all been targeting

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Israel.
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reason to, but they're basically
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ram to destroy the Iranian
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Iran has, based on my

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estimation, they have nuclear
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they could use to kill millions
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threatening to bomb Iran, you
know, that's a complete

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repudiation of his, of his
campaign pledge to never, you

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know, try to stop World War
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essentially what I call, you
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at least delay it.
He's trying to bring Judgement

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And, you know, there's biblical,

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biblical prophecies involved in
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would be delaying the biblical
prophecies of America's

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potential destruction instead of
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Right.
He it's like everything is still

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in the balance, right?
Like I honestly thought with,

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with getting Trump back in
office, it would be at least a

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semi look, it's never going to
be totally sane while Donald

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Trump's in office, right?
I do think there is a certain

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level that he does thrive off
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I've often said he seems to be
like the Dallas Cowboys of

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politics, right?
There's a lot of money there,

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but a little bit of dysfunction
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And so I, I tend to look at, at
this as a very precarious time,

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right?
And as, as I've looked at Trump,

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often times, I've wondered if
it's not the last guy that has

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his ear is who's going to win
that argument.

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I could be all wet in that.
That's just, you know, me

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looking at it and, and kind of
knowing guys of similar

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temperament and being able to
understand, right?

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It's the last guy that strokes
his ego that's probably going to

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get the nod.
And that's, that's a little

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spooky to have to have that
right now in, in the position

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we're in.
Yeah, it absolutely is.

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And if you look at, you know,
like Tulsi Gabbard, you know,

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she's she's pretty, pretty
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First.
I mean, she's a moderate overall

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in terms of social issues, but
you know, she's a real patriot.

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She's a Lieutenant Colonel in
the US Army intelligence.

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And then there is, you know,
Pete Hank said, you know, he's,

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he's pretty America first.
And he was reportedly joining

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with Gabbard and and Vance, Vice
President Vance in opposition to

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the planned US strikes in Iran,
although he doesn't come across

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that way, you know, but all the
reports are saying that that

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he's he's been, you know, one of
the ones that are more shut out

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of the of Trump's inner circle
because he's not a warm honor

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like Rubio and Ratcliffe at CIA.
And then of course, General

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Kane, chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff and other folks,

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bad actors within the
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and military.
But the problem is, it's just is

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what you said, is that the the
rumor, you know, the President

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Trump's reputation is that he he
listens to the last person that

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talks to him and kind of follows
that advice.

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And presumably the last person
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someone like Rubio.
Essentially all that should be

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JD Vance, really should be JD
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room.
But we know that's not happening

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because, you know, we know that
JD Vance was adamantly against

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war with Iran and he actually
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He stopped it in early April
when General Cruella, you know,

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US commander of US CENTCOM and
Mike Waltz were, were pushing it

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on him.
He was able to push back along

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with with Gabbard and and Hexa
and the chief of staff, Trump's

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chief of staff as well.
So he wanted to bomb Iran clear

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back in April.
Who's that?

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Rubio or Trump?
Trump.

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Well, President.
Trump was strongly considering

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it back in April, but on April
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White House that he was vetoing
that pending a 60 day diplomatic

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negotiation with Iran.
So basically it just he just

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delayed what Netanyahu and Waltz
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April to to June, late June.
Well, I guess the, you know,

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it's one of those things then
we're just going to sit back and

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we're going to have to watch.
And, you know, I think, I think

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just be very prayerful.
You know, it's probably wouldn't

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be a bad thing to have some
extra supplies around and really

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get used to listening to the
spirit because I, I do think

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that there is a, at least a
possibility, right?

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I'm not a prophet.
I don't pretend to be 1, but I,

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I do see the makings of trouble
out on the horizon.

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And that's just based off of
talking to guys like yourself,

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right?
I don't think that, that we're

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done with this quite yet.
And I, I, I think it'll go quiet

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for a while and I think we're
going to have another major

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flare up.
And what that is, I'm not sure,

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but I imagine that region is
just now starting to to catch

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fire all over again.
Yeah, I think you're absolutely

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right.
I think we're, we're facing, you

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know, 2 fires that Biden helped
start in the Middle East and,

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and Ukraine and another one
potentially in Taiwan that I'm

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really expecting to happen later
this year, but certainly no

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later than 2027.
It's been stated that, you know,

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President Xi Jinping wants to
force reunification with Taiwan

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if we're, if he's unsuccessful
in in, you know, achieving that

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peacefully and diplomatically.
We do know that Iran has been a,

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a state sponsor of terror
before, right?

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I had, I was listening to a
podcast and I don't know if I

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can legally say the name here.
I'll tell you after we're done.

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But he's a national guy and a
former operator, that sort of

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thing.
And he's, he had a guest on who

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was from the agency and she
essentially said we have upwards

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of 1000 terrorists across our
border right now based off of

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chatter.
So with what where we're at

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right now, do we as a country
need to be worried about terror

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attacks on the ground sponsored
by Iran?

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Absolutely, Yeah.
So Iran announced the morning

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after the the initial Israeli
strikes that Iran was holding

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his US personally accountable
for the strikes and reserve the

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right to retaliate directly
against U.S. military personnel

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and assets in the region.
And basically saying that they

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knew that there was no way that
Israel could have conducted

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those attacks so successfully
without direct, you know, US

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participation in the terms of
it, terms of intelligence

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sharing and other support.
Yeah, 'cause they those were

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very targeted.
I mean, if there's one thing we

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can say for the attack that that
Israel did do, it seems to be

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very surgical in nature.
I do know that that our embassy

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was just hit, I think last night
or this morning and and that

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puts a new spin on things,
right, because now now we got

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got skin in the game, so to
speak, right.

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And and where do we take it from
here?

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How do you see this one all
ending?

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What do you see panning out as
far as this conflict over the

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coming months?
You know, I mean, really the,

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the biggest variable to me is,
is President Trump.

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You know, if President Trump is
been giving conflicting messages

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and, and sadly, he's done the
same with Ukraine where, you

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know, he, he initially seemed to
want to genuinely support peace

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with Russia.
Then he gave them a 22 point

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ultimate ultimatum peace plan.
And then when they didn't accept

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it, he just dropped negotiations
all together.

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In this case, he is giving
signals where that he wants a

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peaceful resolution to the Iran
nuclear issue.

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At the same time, he's
cheerleading additional Israeli

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strikes on Iran.
So the question is, which Trump

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will run will win out?
Will it be the Trump that that

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we voted for that committed to
put America first and keep us

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safe?
Or will it be the, the Trump

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that's wanting to Israel to
continue bombing Iran despite

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escalating risks of, of the
outbreak of World War three?

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And to be honest, I, I've
stopped trying to, to predict

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how, which Trump will, will,
will prevail.

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And at this point and I I'm
increasingly pessimistic based

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on his latest actions.
Dude. 100% 'cause you were on

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right before the election and
you were very bullish on, on

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Trump a second time around.
Look, and I still, I want to say

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this, I still think he's better
than Biden, right?

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Because you know, it was weekend
at Bernie's in the White House

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and, and the guys, the, the, the
guys who were running Biden

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weren't great guys either,
right?

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However, this, this is worrisome
to me, right?

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When I heard that he essentially
greenlit it, I was like, why?

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Why would we do this?
Why?

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Why go into this exercise?
OK, that that takes care of

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that.
Well, I want to move on to

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Russia and Ukraine now again,
And we touched on this a little

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bit.
Trump ran really hard on the

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idea of I'll have you know, I'll
have this wrapped up in two

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weeks.
It'll be perfect.

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You'll love it.
And that hasn't been the case.

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We're six months in now and it's
still going, right.

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So what's the status of that
war?

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Who's winning it?
Who's got the upper hand?

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What what's going on there?
Because it's kind of taking a

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back seat in some ways, right?
It's hard to get any sort of

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news on that front as of right
now.

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Yeah, so Russia, you know, Trump
came into office as you

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mentioned, promising to end the
war on day one of the war.

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He actually, I think it was
right before the, the he took

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office, he said, OK, maybe not
day one, maybe six months down

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the road.
And then Keith Kellogg said,

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yeah, we think we could do it in
four months, 120 days.

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And so we had kind of an, an
adjustment.

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I'm like, we don't need that
long.

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We can we can end the first
week.

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And I, I published a whole slew
of articles and how Trump could

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do that.
And I actually got one of my

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articles in the hands of one of
his top cabinet members.

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I never really thought that
that, you know, they would

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implement my full plan, but it
for a while it seemed like they

446
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,920
were implementing parts of it.
But then essentially Trump,

447
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:44,120
Trump never has engaged in any
serious negotiations with Russia

448
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:46,200
over how to end the war.
I mean, there's been brief

449
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,000
meetings here and there.
There were, I think there've

450
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,240
been a couple meetings between
Secretary Rubio and Russian

451
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,880
Foreign Minister Lavrov.
But Putin, Trump has refused to

452
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,880
meet with Putin.
I mean, he hasn't said so

453
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,280
outright.
He said, oh, yeah, we'll meet

454
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,480
sometime and nothing will ever
get finalized.

455
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,640
There will never be peace, peace
in Ukraine until me and me and

456
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,240
Putin meet.
And yet yet 6, you know, five

457
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,400
months in, there's no meeting
scheduled.

458
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,640
The Russians have been saying
we, we stand ready to meet with

459
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,080
Trump, you know, at a moment's
notice when he did.

460
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,240
But he needs to initiate it.
They said he needs to.

461
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,760
The White House needs to call
them and I'll set something up

462
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,680
and they'll have a summit and
they'll resolve as many issues

463
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,680
as possible, agree to disagree
where we can't find common

464
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,000
ground and and they're serious
about wanting to wrap this thing

465
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,280
up.
But as I mentioned earlier, you

466
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,160
know, Trump foolishly decided to
accept the Kellogg peace plan.

467
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,200
The Kellogg peace plan ended up
being a 22 point peace plan,

468
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760
which was first, I think it was
first socialized with the

469
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,400
Zelensky and European leaders.
I think it was April 21st.

470
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:04,800
Around that time, I think Ruby,
I went to Paris and basically

471
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,080
the Ukrainians walked out.
I think if I'm remembering

472
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,280
right, what the timeline was.
But you know, Ukraine never

473
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,800
accepted any of any of our peace
proposal.

474
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,440
They only accepted the 30 days
ceasefire with conditions that

475
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,000
they knew Russia would never
accept.

476
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,240
And that was just a really
propaganda measure because they

477
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,880
had been the most vehement
against a ceasefire prior to

478
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,800
that.
And basically the Kellogg peace

479
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,400
plan mandates that there be a
ceasefire before there there are

480
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,000
any serious peace negotiations.
And in terms of the the terms of

481
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,680
the final peace agreement.
And Russia said that the only

482
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,400
way they'll have a ceasefire is
if is if we've reached, you

483
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,520
know, substantial agreement on
the peace terms.

484
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,160
So, you know, we've had two
conflicting positions ensuring

485
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,560
the war goes on indefinitely.
And meanwhile, you know, since

486
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,960
March 11th, Trump has has been
doing everything he can to

487
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,520
support, you know, Ukraine
militarily and continue

488
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,760
offensive intelligence sharing.
Maybe not for long range targets

489
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,200
deep inside of Russia.
I'm not sure about that one.

490
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,040
But according to, you know,
Germany's new new chancellor

491
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,840
Friedrich Merz, you know, Trump
has is, is sharing an offensive

492
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,080
intelligence authorization for
the use of deep strike US

493
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,360
missiles.
I I think that that is probably

494
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,720
not true.
But what, what disturbed me is

495
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,120
that the Trump White House did
not try to rebut that.

496
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,400
And if, if in fact, you know, I
mean that that's a very

497
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,960
provocative claim by Mertz
merits.

498
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,440
And, and if, if they were, if
Trump wasn't doing that, I would

499
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,600
have thought that the very next
day, you know, within 24 hours,

500
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,520
the White House would have came
out and, and rebutted that.

501
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,000
So it gives every impression
that Trump is essentially Biden

502
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,640
#2 in terms of the Ukraine war.
And, and, you know, of course,

503
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,080
with the minerals deal that was
signed on Zelensky's terms,

504
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,800
there's no terms of the
agreement that are beneficial to

505
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,360
the US whatsoever.
They won't pay back a single

506
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,440
dime, just as Solinsky promised.
Not a single dime of the 350

507
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:17,040
billion will ever be paid back.
They they reserve full control

508
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,600
over all their natural
resources.

509
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,440
So we don't have any real claim
to their raw materials, rarers.

510
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,480
And worst of all, it's according
to Ukraine.

511
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,880
It's basically a 10 year
security pact where we're

512
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,760
mandated to continue selling
arms to them over the next 10

513
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,760
years.
So it's basically almost a blank

514
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,680
check.
Not I won't say it's a blank

515
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,800
check because we're not actually
giving them the arms, we're

516
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,800
selling them to them.
So I mean that's kind of kind of

517
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,760
a little difference.
We're not giving them massive

518
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,040
financial aid back just like we
used to I.

519
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,520
Guess we won't go broke as
quickly.

520
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,520
So, I mean, we got that going
for us, right?

521
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000
Yeah.
But the bottom line is, you

522
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,920
know, we're going to keep keep
fighting the last Ukrainian.

523
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Now, in terms of the the other
question you asked was how the

524
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,760
war is going and, and Russia's
been winning the war at an

525
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,800
increasing rate.
If you look at a map, it's, it's

526
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,720
easy to understand why so many
people think that the war is a

527
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,520
stalemate because, you know, the
amount of territory Russia's

528
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,040
captured over the last few years
has been very unimpressive.

529
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,600
Initially, they had massive
success.

530
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,280
They were at the gates of Kiev,
10 miles away from the city

531
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,080
center.
And then they they came to

532
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,480
agreement on the Istanbul
agreement and Putin decided to

533
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,040
jump the gun and, and announce a
full what's role of all Russian

534
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,480
forces from 30% of Russian all
territory in three Ukrainian

535
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,360
northern oblast, including Kiev.
And they were his troops.

536
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,320
Up to that point, Ukraine has
not had not yet recaptured any

537
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,480
territory from the Russians at
all.

538
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,920
And as soon as the Russians
departed, they were able to

539
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,960
recapture that that huge swath
of territory.

540
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,960
And, you know, we were forced
to, you know, Biden essentially

541
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,080
propagandized it and said, oh,
the Russians are running away.

542
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,040
It's the it's the Ukrainian
offensive.

543
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,680
And they didn't have any
offensive forces capable of an

544
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,600
offensive at that time, the
counter offensive that was

545
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,840
meaningful.
But by April 4th, all those

546
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,280
Russian troops have been
withdrawn.

547
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,800
And then, of course, we know
that Boris Johnson showed up in

548
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Kiev and pressured Szalinski to
do what he already planned to

549
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,800
do, which was not to show up for
the the signing of the Istanbul

550
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,400
agreement with Putin in Istanbul
on April 9th.

551
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,840
Under the terms of that
agreement, all Russian troops

552
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,640
would have been withdrawn from
all Ukraine's supreme war

553
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,480
territory and the lives of, you
know, terms of killed and

554
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,400
wounded of 2 million brave
Ukrainian troops would have been

555
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,960
saved.
And that's really the, the total

556
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,920
basically is that we've seen at
least 2 million Ukrainian

557
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,760
casualties, of which 750,000
are, are dead.

558
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,520
The Russians casualties have
been 6.3 times less, probably

559
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:09,000
around 120,000 in terms of
killed and maybe a lot more than

560
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,080
that wounded, but maybe 250,000
plus total.

561
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,680
So obviously Russia has over 5,
you know, five times more people

562
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,280
than Ukraine.
They have 16,000 more nukes.

563
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,720
If you look at a map they have
35 times more territory, you

564
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:31,080
know 11 I think 11 times more
greater size economy, 4th

565
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,440
largest economy in the world
used to be 6th largest before

566
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,600
the war.
Russia's military has expanded

567
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,920
at a breathtaking pace.
I think their armies are almost

568
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,240
three times larger than what it
what it was before.

569
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,440
So the winter's not in doubt.
Ukraine's suffering near

570
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,440
military collapse.
They're down to about 350,000

571
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,760
troops Max sack of duty and
they're running out of reserves.

572
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,320
And when they do run out of
reserves to the Russian forces

573
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,720
that are outnumber them over 2
to one will likely be able to

574
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:07,200
sweep across Ukraine and and
occupy nearly half of Ukraine to

575
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,880
the deeper river.
I'm afraid of the answer to this

576
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,920
next question, but I'm going to
ask it anyway because I have a

577
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,440
feeling I know what you're going
to say.

578
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,400
What's the biggest obstacle to
peace over there in this

579
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,080
conflict?
Because it's gone on what now

580
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:26,320
essentially 4 years, right?
We're into, we're, we're, we're

581
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,239
starting the 5th year, I guess 4
1/2 years.

582
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,480
What?
What's the biggest obstacle

583
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,480
there?
Yeah, I mean, the war's got on

584
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,600
for it's now been three years,
almost four months.

585
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,920
And the biggest obstacle to
peace has always been Boldemore

586
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,120
Zelinsky.
He is.

587
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,480
He behaves like he's the head of
a nuclear superpower.

588
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,400
He, you know, Trump hasn't been
able to persuade him to make

589
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,960
even even the slightest
concession in terms of peace

590
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,640
terms with Russia.
He still has maximalist peace

591
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:03,680
terms which entail demanding
that Russia pay 300 billion

592
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,080
reparations to Ukraine, that all
Russian troops be withdrawn from

593
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,240
all prior Ukrainian territory,
including the Donbas region and

594
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:17,440
Crimea, and also demanding that
Russia that Putin should

595
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,680
surrender himself to The Hague
for, you know, war criminal

596
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,000
tribunal prosecutions.
So Needless to say, none of

597
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,800
those demands are achievable.
You know, when you want to, when

598
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,320
you think about achieving peace,
you, you need to be realistic.

599
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,920
You can't have demands that are
unachievable or else the war

600
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,880
continues indefinitely.
And and he's he's continuing to

601
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,200
fight this war because he knows
that as soon as the war ends,

602
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,600
he's going to be thrown out of
office.

603
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:51,440
The polls that I've seen have
him at about 9 to 16% popularity

604
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:57,080
in terms of re election numbers.
And so, you know, he's a

605
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,160
dictator.
He's a, a brutal, murderous

606
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,600
dictator and kills his own
people, assassinates opposition

607
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,600
political leaders.
And he's he's doing his best to,

608
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,920
you know, embezzle enough US
taxpayer money to become a a

609
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,640
billionaire oligarch, which I
think is his is his real, real

610
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,280
goal.
And you know, he knows that he's

611
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,480
going to have to flee an exile
because he would be prosecuted

612
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,520
on corruption charges by his his
successor, if indeed the war

613
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:33,120
ends and he loses an election to
in terms of the presidency.

614
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:40,320
Gotcha, gotcha.
So I feel like there's 2 two

615
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,120
things that are conflicting
here, right?

616
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,840
One is, is that we, we just got
done saying that, you know,

617
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,480
Russia's clearly gaining
momentum now, right?

618
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,840
Momentum's on their side.
So if everything stays as is

619
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960
with American support, even with
us selling them weapons.

620
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,240
And again, this isn't an and it
isn't an indictment upon us.

621
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:04,320
We're not fighting that war.
But regardless, even with us

622
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,720
selling them weapons, it sounds
like if if something doesn't

623
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,080
change, Ukraine will definitely
lose in the next little while,

624
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,920
right?
So what's what is what is

625
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,440
Zelensky's end game?
Is it just to write it out as

626
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,920
long as he can and then wait for
the gates to fall and then

627
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,600
helicopter on out to whatever
island he's arranged for

628
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,840
himself?
Is that kind of what we're

629
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,160
looking at here, David?
So what he believes is that and

630
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,360
what I think may he might have
been promised by, you know, the

631
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,920
UK and France, is that in the
event that Russian forces

632
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,160
achieved major breakthroughs
along the front and drive to the

633
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,600
Geneva River, that Britain and
France will parachute.

634
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,680
You know, they'll drive in 10s
of thousands of troops and to

635
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,640
help defend the the deeper river
line to protect, you know,

636
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,200
protect the Zelensky regime in
the West and western and central

637
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,320
Ukraine.
And then if necessary, Zelensky

638
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,760
can relocate the capital to be
which is a much more secure

639
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,640
location not far from the Polish
border.

640
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,400
So yeah, I think that's probably
what he thinks would happen.

641
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,360
But what he what he really hopes
would happen is that is that the

642
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,560
US would join the war as well.
And and in the belief that if

643
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,040
the US were to fight Russia,
then that's the only hope for

644
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,080
Ukraine ever regaining its lost
territories.

645
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,000
Yeah, I I'm again, another
conflict where I'm not sure you

646
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,040
could just point to a white hat
and a Black Hat right there.

647
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,320
I'm not sure there's a good guy
in the mix.

648
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,440
I, I would like to touch on that
exchange that happened in the

649
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,160
White House that got so much
traction early earlier this

650
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,560
year.
Was that just kabuki theater?

651
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,320
I mean, was that just, you know,
Trump kind of grandstanding

652
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,440
knowing he was going to go in a
different direction, trying to

653
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,680
maybe get his base off of his
back, so to speak?

654
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,720
What what we see there was, was
any of that serious, do you

655
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:11,720
think, or was it just theater?
No, I think it was all genuine.

656
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,400
I, I think that President Trump
started his, he started his

657
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,240
administration with a really
clear plan as to what to do.

658
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,200
I mean, very impressive in so
many ways.

659
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,440
You know, again, the biggest
flaw that he had was the Kellogg

660
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,320
plan, because that that was
never going to achieve peace in

661
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,920
Ukraine.
Russia was never going to agree

662
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,800
to that.
But in terms of trade and so

663
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,840
many other things, I mean, he
just implemented his plan like

664
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,920
warp speed and and, you know,
acted really decisively.

665
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,320
But then I think he, you know,
he kind of didn't know how to

666
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,080
react, you know, to
developments.

667
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,080
He he just kind of made a policy
on the fly in terms of change,

668
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,160
you know, new policy.
But that no, that was very

669
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,720
sincere that that Zelensky
exchange in the White House on

670
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:59,160
February 28th.
You know, so the way Trump

671
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,280
responded, he initially he was,
he would placate Zelensky and

672
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,400
let him, you know, be verbally
abused as a Putin puppet.

673
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,040
And then and then Vance defended
him.

674
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,960
And, you know, after Vance
defended him, he Trump decided

675
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,560
to, you know, tell Solinsky off.
And, you know, Zelinsky was

676
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,400
swearing in Ukrainian under his
breath.

677
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,720
I think Ukrainian or Russian,
some foul language.

678
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,160
That, you know, I can't, can't
sit here.

679
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,120
But that was, yeah, it was all
since here and and it was

680
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,720
amazing.
Even Lindsey Graham was saying,

681
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:34,280
hey, I think we're going to need
to have Zielinski replaced

682
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,840
because he told off the
president of the White House.

683
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,800
It's interesting he had him kind
of on the ropes like that and

684
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,920
then kind of went the other
direction.

685
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:51,520
All right, let's go ahead and
and move on to to Taiwan and

686
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,280
Russia, because I do don't think
that's put to bed yet.

687
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,600
When we talked last time, it
looked like that that could be

688
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,920
imminent, right?
If Biden was re elected.

689
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,600
Now Biden wasn't re elected,
Trump was.

690
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,280
But where where does that
conflict?

691
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,600
Well, I shouldn't say conflict
pre conflict, proto conflict,

692
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,520
however you want to put it.
Where's that standing right now?

693
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,920
Well, so Xi Jinping, Chinese
president, made a very

694
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,240
interesting comment.
He said the team, he had ordered

695
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,400
the PLA to be ready for war by
April first.

696
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,680
Then on April first, he
actually, there was, you know, a

697
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:36,040
massive Chinese military
exercise, you know, consisting

698
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:41,920
of naval, air and ground forces
with, you know, actual missiles,

699
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,560
missile strikes that were, that
were practiced not far off of

700
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:50,360
Taiwanese waters.
And, you know, I, I thought that

701
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,600
might be it.
I thought that might, might be,

702
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,400
might be the, the big one.
And thankfully it wasn't.

703
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,800
But I think that China's, I
think China's really hoping that

704
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,280
we, we bomb Iran and you know,
and maybe even get involved in a

705
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,080
war with Russia.
And then they can watch as, as

706
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,200
we, you know, our military
forces are, are degraded and

707
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,320
maybe even the US destroyed
without them having to lift a

708
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,680
finger.
But more probably they would,

709
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,720
they would assume that that
wouldn't happen, but that we,

710
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,360
you know, we would be so bogged
down in in wars and with Russia

711
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,720
and Ukraine and, and what more
likely Iran in the Middle East

712
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,400
that we would lack the military
capability to, you know,

713
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,600
effectively respond to a a
Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

714
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,840
Gotcha.
Gotcha.

715
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,680
So do you think that's still on
the table while Trump's in

716
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,080
office?
I would be shocked.

717
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,680
I mean, I would wager 99% chance
of of China invading Taiwan by

718
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,600
2027.
I think that's I think I

719
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,760
actually been predicting that
later this year.

720
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,320
I mean, for ever since 2020,
I've said 2025 was, was the

721
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,600
deadline that I, that I read
that he was, you know, Xi

722
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,920
Jinping was ready to, you know,
forcibly reunify Taiwan.

723
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,240
But since I've come to the
belief that 2027 is the absolute

724
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,320
drop, drop dead date.
So it's going to happen.

725
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,040
It's going to happen the next
two years.

726
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,280
I can't, you know, I'm not going
to exactly when.

727
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,400
But if, if I had, if I was a
betting man, I would man, I

728
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,080
would, I would likely say most
likely in October, I'd say 50%

729
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,840
chance.
True.

730
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:36,760
What does that mean for the US
if China was to invade and take

731
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,600
seize control of Taiwan?
Well, again, all of this depends

732
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,800
on President Trump.
You know, the president United

733
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,640
States has tremendous power to
determine the fate of the United

734
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,720
States.
Whether whether we survive long

735
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:54,600
term or whether we, you know, we
lose our country is, is really

736
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,240
dependent on the decisions that
he makes.

737
00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:00,160
And nowhere is that more the
case, I think then with the

738
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:06,480
Chinese invasion of Taiwan.
Because, you know, if, if we

739
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,920
were to not respond, then I
think that China would have no

740
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,560
reason to attack us militarily.
And, you know, we would just

741
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,320
kind of move on and realize that
Taiwan was never that important

742
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,640
or strategic as as so many
neocons have said it was.

743
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,040
And I say that reluctantly as
someone who's been a lifelong

744
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,040
supporter of Taiwan.
But the balance of power has

745
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,760
shifted dramatically.
You know, 20 years ago, China

746
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,360
didn't have near the
capabilities to evade Taiwan.

747
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Now they, I mean, they, they,
they've had the capabilities

748
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,080
since 2020.
So for the last five years,

749
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,200
there's been a window of
vulnerability that it's only a

750
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,920
matter of time when, when they
decide to to exploit that, that

751
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,720
window.
And it's likely to be sooner

752
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:59,200
rather than later.
So with that, go ahead.

753
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,880
Sorry, let me.
Just let me just add to that

754
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,200
that if we if Trump were to
decide to defend Taiwan

755
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,680
militarily, then China would
execute its plan to destroy the

756
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,000
US with multiple vectors of
attack.

757
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,240
They would likely start with a
massive cyber attack against the

758
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:19,600
United States or they wanted of
major combat operations that

759
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,880
would take down our grid, take
down our all of our critical

760
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,640
infrastructure.
They have already have up to

761
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,720
100,000 PLA troops, half of
which are probably special

762
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:33,160
forces operating behind the
lines in US territory that

763
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:37,920
crossed into our country from
October 2019 to January of this

764
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,240
year.
And those troops are positioned

765
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:46,360
mostly on Chinese owned farm
lands which are located near 17

766
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,640
US key U.S. military bases.
And if you look at a map of of

767
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,960
Chinese owned farm lands, you'll
notice that about 1/3 of Utah

768
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,920
Utah's land is is owned by
China.

769
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:08,800
That doesn't bode well.
So what, what if what if I keep

770
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,200
hearing about the chips, right?
The microchips that that it if,

771
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,280
if Taiwan's invaded, there's no
guarantee Russia that China

772
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,960
would sell those to us, right?
Well, I think their default

773
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,320
position would be to resell them
in a higher price.

774
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,320
We've seen that with rare
earths, you know, with the

775
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,440
exception of times when, you
know, Trump's threatening China,

776
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,320
you know, then they'll
temporarily suspend sale of rare

777
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,000
earths to the USI think that
would be their default.

778
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,160
But if we were to, to either
have massive sanctions on China,

779
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,320
you know, kind of Russia style
massive sanctions on China

780
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,320
response to their base of
Taiwan, where of course, if we

781
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,440
go to war against them, then
obviously they're, they won't,

782
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,480
then we'll stop selling them.
And but honest, to be honest,

783
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,640
you know, there's a a lot, in a
lot of worst scenarios, those

784
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,960
plants get destroyed.
So in fact, I, I was working for

785
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,880
Vivek Ramaswamy and we were
deciding on his foreign policy

786
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:11,160
positions and, and we were doing
a Zoom briefing and he told me,

787
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,960
he said that that, you know, I,
he asked me if we should do

788
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,200
that.
And I, I initially said no.

789
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,720
But then what I thought later
I'm like, yeah, that's actually

790
00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:24,160
a good, a good idea.
Because I don't think if we were

791
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,840
to pop off a bunch of missiles
at Taiwan versus China, I think

792
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,160
and kind of a now maybe give
them like some kind of warning

793
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,240
time that, you know, we weren't
attacking them.

794
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:40,280
We were just taking out the
Taiwan semiconductor facilities.

795
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,200
I don't think that would start a
war.

796
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,000
So I think, I think we could do
that.

797
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,680
And the mentality in the US is
that we should, it would be

798
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,960
better for for us to destroy
them than to allow those chips

799
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,160
to fall under, under Chinese
control where they would have,

800
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,480
you know, almost a monopoly.
Not a monopoly, but but close to

801
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,000
it in terms of advanced
microchips, given that Taiwan,

802
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,360
you know, sells 90% of the the
world's advanced semiconductor

803
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,960
supply.
OK.

804
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,520
I want to talk about just for a
second, right, Because it sounds

805
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,640
like we're you're, you're,
you're pretty sure that, that an

806
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,640
invasion of Taiwan is going to
happen in one form or another.

807
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,080
Yeah, blockade or or invasion.
That's right.

808
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:30,800
So I think it was it Ollie or
was it Tyson?

809
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,360
One of those boxers said
everyone's got a plan till you

810
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,320
walk in and get punched in the
face, right?

811
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:40,760
To my knowledge, China hasn't
really been in any foreign

812
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,040
skirmishes in a long, long time,
right?

813
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,920
Probably World War 2.
Vietnam actually they they

814
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,600
fought a war against Vietnam in
79, OK.

815
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,480
Vietnam still a good chunk of
time, right?

816
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,480
You're we're approaching 40
years on that.

817
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,280
Do they have like, I can't
imagine that Taiwan would just

818
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,920
roll over necessarily, right.
I, I went back and I did some

819
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,920
research and at the American
Revolution, just just as an

820
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,680
example, right, not saying that
they're anywhere near a

821
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,760
Jeffersonian Republic, right?
Not not saying that, but just as

822
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,040
people go and, and it was
roughly 30% were in favor of the

823
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:26,720
crown here.
I want to say like another 20

824
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:31,720
some percent were were neutral,
a good chunk were in favor of

825
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:34,960
it, but there was only 3% that
were willing to fight in the war

826
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,080
right of the revolution.
But it was enough with insurgent

827
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:44,080
kind of tactics, right.
Do you think China can withstand

828
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,920
and hold up to an insurgency
like that, right.

829
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,360
We certainly found out in places
in Iraq as well, as, you know, I

830
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,720
think, I think you can lump
Vietnam in there with that too,

831
00:49:56,720 --> 00:50:00,600
that fighting insurgency is a
different animal altogether,

832
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,560
right?
Because you're not going to war

833
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,240
like we've been used to.
Do you think China has the

834
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:10,000
stomach and the capabilities to
fight against a war of

835
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,720
insurgency?
I think it's very unlikely that

836
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,800
Taiwan can mount an effective
insurgency to a Chinese

837
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,160
occupation forces.
They would likely be cut off and

838
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,600
blockaded from outside support.
Much of their, you know, arm

839
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,920
stocks would likely have been
captured and, and either

840
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,840
destroyed or, you know, taken
over by the Chinese.

841
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,640
So, so I, I do think that China
could do that.

842
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,080
You know, mostly the estimates
that I've seen says that, you

843
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,400
know, in a full Chinese
amphibious invasion and airborne

844
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:48,480
or rather, yeah, airborne slash
air mobile campaign and revision

845
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,280
of of Taiwan, China could could
take Taipei within by day 15 of

846
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,120
the war.
So at that point, I think we're,

847
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,560
you know, especially with
cyberattacks, I, I would

848
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,320
envision a massive cyberattack
in Taiwan shutting down their,

849
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,960
their critical infrastructure.
They, you know, essentially

850
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,480
causing them to run out of gas.
The gas pumps wouldn't work and

851
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,760
the communications would be
down.

852
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,640
They'd be unable to coordinate
above company level, you know,

853
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,680
essentially decapitated.
And, and of course there's

854
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,560
decapitation plans.
Other special forces have plans

855
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,160
to decapitate the Taiwan's
military political leadership as

856
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:34,520
well as, you know, taking out
their air, the Taiwanese Air

857
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,000
Force and Navy, they could do
that within 48 hours according

858
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,920
to estimates that I've seen.
So really without effective U.S.

859
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,240
military intervention, which we
just don't have the forces there

860
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:46,840
anymore, we're completely
outnumbered almost 12:50 in

861
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,280
terms of naval forces in, in the
the Taiwan region.

862
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,800
It it would just, it would be
likely be a a few week campaign

863
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,640
at at most certainly there you
know, would be some resistance,

864
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,120
but in terms of the actual
victory and capitulation, it'd

865
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,880
likely be in the the three-week
range.

866
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,840
Gotcha, gotcha.
Now one one other variable I

867
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:15,080
wanted to look at here in in
terms of Taiwan and China, I

868
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,480
did, I did a little bit of my
own homework right, because I

869
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,120
want to at least pretend to talk
intelligently about these

870
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,880
things.
I I do find them fascinating.

871
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,160
Japan seems to be building
again, building up its

872
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:34,560
armaments.
And I was reading a little bit

873
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:40,800
of the history between China and
Japan and China and South Korea.

874
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,440
And it was interesting that they
look, they still look at those

875
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:49,560
folks as quote, Mongols, right?
They call them the Mongols on

876
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,080
the the peninsula and the
Mongols on the island, obviously

877
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,160
going back to Genghis Khan and
and you know, that sort of

878
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:03,200
thing.
Do they provide any sort of of

879
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,200
deterrence at all?
If if let's say Japan was to

880
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,200
say, you know what, this is
getting a little close to home.

881
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,720
I don't want to do this anymore
There.

882
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:12,920
There's a lot of bad blood
there, right David from World

883
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,400
War 20?
Absolutely.

884
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,360
Yeah.
I mean, the Japanese were

885
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,360
brutal.
The Chinese probably killed

886
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:23,720
millions of Chinese during the
the Second Sino Japanese War and

887
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,800
the Chinese have never forgiven
them for that.

888
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,720
You know, the occupied obviously
Beijing and, and Shanghai and

889
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,920
and many other large Chinese
cities.

890
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,640
And yeah, the Chinese hate, hate
the Japanese.

891
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:41,440
And they're, they're, they've
made no bones about the fact

892
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:46,480
that if, if Japan joins the war
against them with the US, that

893
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,080
they would carve up and occupy
Japan into five different,

894
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,360
different countries or
occupation zones or whatever,

895
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,320
whatever the case might be with
Russia, and that they would use

896
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,320
nuclear weapons on Japanese
cities.

897
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,320
So I, I think from what I've
heard from most Japanese

898
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,920
leaders, obviously none of the
countries in that region have

899
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:15,600
have stated definitively that
they would, they would ally with

900
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:20,360
the US militarily against China
in terms of, of actual direct

901
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,600
military involvement.
And that's understandable

902
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,480
because, you know, the US itself
has has, you know, policy of

903
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,600
strategic ambiguity that, you
know, with the exception of the

904
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,480
Biden regime where they said we
absolutely would defend Taiwan,

905
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,120
US policies been not to state
clearly whether we would or not.

906
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,720
But I think in in all
likelihood, obviously in the

907
00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:45,720
case of a just a purely
conventional war, Japanese, U.S.

908
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:49,160
military bases on Japanese
territory would be hit very

909
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,240
hard.
You know, our ships would be

910
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:56,280
sunk.
And, you know, that would give

911
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,680
Japan some degree of incentive
to consider joining the war.

912
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,560
But also perhaps seeing that the
rapidity of of U.S. forces being

913
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,120
essentially Pearl Harvard within
the first few days of the war,

914
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:13,080
they might might sit out peace
feelers kind of a separate piece

915
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,960
with China and say, Hey, we're
we're not involved, You know,

916
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,760
just please don't, please don't
attack us and we won't attack

917
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,960
you.
And and I think China might

918
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,080
respect, they likely would
respect that.

919
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,280
But any, any overt moves
militarily, you know, Japan

920
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,960
would get occupied in short
order I think by by Russia and

921
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,880
China.
And didn't hear not too long

922
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,800
ago.
Didn't she end up changing some

923
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,320
stuff and and isn't he now
appointed pretty much for life?

924
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:48,440
Yeah, I think it was back in
2022 that it was on the 10 year

925
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:54,760
anniversary of of his his tenure
as president of of of China

926
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,120
People's Republic of China.
And of course, you know, his

927
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,880
main role is as general
secretary of the of the Chinese

928
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,720
Communist Party.
But he also holds the office of

929
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:05,400
president of China.
That that's, that was a

930
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,760
development that happened I
think after Dean Xiaoping, where

931
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,960
it's become traditional for the
for a Chinese leader to hold

932
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,400
both those titles.
But but he essentially made

933
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,520
himself dictator, you know,
president for life at that 2000,

934
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,640
October 2022 Chinese Communist
Party Congress.

935
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,160
And so so you're right.
Yeah, he's president for life.

936
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:31,280
He's a dictator for life.
And the only reason I bring that

937
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,440
up is that seems to be a clear
departure from what China had

938
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,520
been going on, right?
Because in my research, if I'm

939
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,160
not mistaken, it would kind of
alternate almost between

940
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,800
branches, right?
So you'd have the military, then

941
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,840
you'd have someone from home and
then someone from another

942
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,480
department.
And it kind of just did a round

943
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:52,240
Robin kind of a thing like
you're up, but didn't G come

944
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:54,720
from the the military side of
things?

945
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:56,080
Correct me if I'm wrong there,
David.

946
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,480
Well, Xi Jinping has always been
a, you know, Communist Party

947
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,000
functionary leader.
He's never served in the PLA

948
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:09,160
himself, but he yeah, he's just
worked his, his way up through

949
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,960
the ranks.
And I think it and trying to

950
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,840
remember what, who the president
he served as vice president

951
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,440
under.
But obviously he knew a

952
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,360
president, President Biden, when
he they were both vice

953
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,920
presidents, I think during the
Obama years, during the first

954
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,720
first Obama's first term.
But yeah, he's just been a

955
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,960
Communist Party functionary.
His yeah, I think it was his dad

956
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,880
or grandfather.
I think it was father that, you

957
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,120
know, served as a Communist
Party leader at the local level

958
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,240
as well.
Got.

959
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:44,040
You and do you see this more as,
do you think he's pushing for

960
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,880
more of a dynastic kind of a
thing now, a kind of a return to

961
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,520
an emperor kind of status?
I mean, without calling it an

962
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,960
emperor kind of status, 'cause I
think that could affect our

963
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,600
foreign policy towards China,
right?

964
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,640
Because if it's a different type
of government, you're going to

965
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,760
have to deal with it a little
differently, I would think.

966
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,680
Well, I haven't seen any
evidence of that.

967
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,600
Obviously that's always been the
case with North Korea.

968
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:13,280
Him, Kim Jong Un is, is the
grand grandson of, you know, Kim

969
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,640
Illinois Sung, the North Korea's
first dictator.

970
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,080
But no, I've not seen any, any
evidence to suggest that's the

971
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,400
case.
I mean, certainly he, he could

972
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,400
do that.
He has the ability to do that,

973
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,560
but I think it's more likely
he'll have a hand picked

974
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,520
successor when he's, you know,
in his advanced age.

975
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,880
Gotcha.
OK.

976
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,840
I got one more question about
Russia, the the conflict with

977
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,840
with Russia and Ukraine and
Taiwan and China and then I want

978
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,400
to move on to stuff at home.
But the question is this, again,

979
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,400
doing a little bit of research,
I find it interesting that both

980
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,440
of those countries have been
facing massive population

981
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,640
collapse.
I think China, I read that there

982
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,040
are 40 million young men who
have no marriage prospects.

983
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,480
Russia was in such bad condition
that they were talking about

984
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:09,280
like really incentivizing
childbirth, right, Trying to get

985
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,840
the the population numbers up.
Do do you see any evidence that

986
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,080
a declining population has
anything to do with with these

987
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,560
these wars happening right now?
No, I, I see absolutely no

988
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,120
evidence of that.
Certainly correct that Russia

989
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,000
and China have both been under,
you know, undergoing population

990
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,560
reductions, but it's pretty
gradual.

991
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:39,200
You know, in terms of if you
were to look at there's a 2050

992
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,200
economic predictor, it shows
that Russia would remain.

993
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,520
Well, at that point we were it
was the 6th largest economy and

994
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,320
it was predicting it would stay
that, but it showed the US

995
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,840
declining I think to the the
third or even the 4th, probably

996
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,120
the third largest economy.
And I think we're currently

997
00:59:55,120 --> 01:00:00,880
second behind China.
But yeah, so the US is actually,

998
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,920
this is something that people
realize is the population is not

999
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:10,320
the the key predictor of of
economic potential or military

1000
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,440
power as as it used to be in the
good old days like in World War

1001
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,840
One before the atomic age and
before the event of modern

1002
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,880
weapon systems.
But you know, a lot of it has to

1003
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,600
do with natural resources.
Russia is, is tremendous, you

1004
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,440
know, natural resources, some of
which remain untapped.

1005
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,640
So that's really the source of
the riches.

1006
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,800
It's not just the oil.
The oil is probably the, the

1007
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,600
key, the foremost natural
resources, which they do have.

1008
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,040
They sell us uranium and, and
all kinds of different rarers.

1009
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,000
China has is a massive
manufacturing power.

1010
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,720
So you can, there's really two
ways to become a rich and

1011
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,440
powerful country.
Traditionally it's at least the

1012
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,000
modern days, it's, it's either
through, you know, through

1013
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,480
natural resources or rare earths
or through manufacturing

1014
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,720
capabilities.
And based on the I, I recently

1015
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,720
did a deep dive into China's
manufacturing capabilities and

1016
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,280
concluded it's likely 3.8 times
larger than ours in terms of

1017
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,000
industrial manufacturing might
by purchase power parity.

1018
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,160
So I mean, that's just a
tremendous, that's like the

1019
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,720
difference between the US and
Japan during World War 2.

1020
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,920
So if we were to have, for
example, a, a Pacific war, a

1021
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,400
repeat of the Pacific war in
World War Two, we would

1022
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,640
essentially be playing the part
of Japan because, you know,

1023
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,520
China has the ability to out
produce this by 232 times to to

1024
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,480
one in terms of ships.
So they could, they could, you

1025
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,280
know, even if we suck all their
ships, they could build a new

1026
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,000
fleet.
Basically, they're building

1027
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,720
this, you know, the number of
ships or the tonnage of the

1028
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,320
entire Royal Navy every year.
Wow.

1029
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,440
Holy cow.
All right, let's let's switch to

1030
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:59,760
home because now even home's on
fire with those raids in LA.

1031
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,880
What?
What's your take away on that

1032
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,120
Because I, I've gotten mixed
reports, right?

1033
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,120
Some were that they were very
targeted.

1034
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,480
They were going after only the,
the baddest of the bad, so to

1035
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,680
speak.
Others say they were just

1036
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,520
rounding them up, right,
waiting, you know, going to Home

1037
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,160
Depot and just put them in the
back and, and take them off.

1038
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,120
What have you heard any
intelligence on that?

1039
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,200
Anything that you can share?
Yeah.

1040
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,000
I mean, there were ICE rates
going on in terms of mostly

1041
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,400
violent criminals.
But I did did recently read that

1042
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,040
some of the raids, and I haven't
confirmed that they were in LA,

1043
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,080
but some of the Trump
administration was also raiding

1044
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,600
some hotels and restaurants.
No, they wouldn't raid homes,

1045
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,040
but they, you know, places of
business which were, you know,

1046
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,680
where it's illegal for illegal
immigrants to be employed, they

1047
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:56,280
would raid those as well.
And that, that of course, and,

1048
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,120
and by the way, that's something
they discontinued.

1049
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,000
So they actually ceded something
important to the protests by

1050
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,920
discontinuing all rights against
hotels and restaurants and

1051
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,400
businesses for illegals.
That was a recent war since

1052
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,800
since the war between Iran and
Israel erupted.

1053
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,240
But the early riots were, I
mean, that was propagated by,

1054
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:21,800
you know, mainly Antifa and
Black Lives Matter, likely also

1055
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,840
supported by the Revolutionary
Communist Party, which has been

1056
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,920
active here in Utah for the
supporting the the leftist

1057
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,560
protests.
And that's a group that wants to

1058
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,240
overthrow the US government.
It's a group that wants to

1059
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,960
establish a Castro white
communist, the government or

1060
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,240
regime here in the US, which
would, you know, essentially

1061
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,320
destroy all rights and communize
everything.

1062
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:53,160
So essentially domestic far left
terrorists were responsible.

1063
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:59,160
And and obviously we saw that in
also in was it Minnesota where

1064
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:05,200
the state the state senator was
was killed and really 442

1065
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:09,800
legislators were shot were shot.
Two were killed in a legislator

1066
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,960
and his wife or her rather her
husband and then the other, the

1067
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:19,080
other one survived with his
wife, but, you know, expected

1068
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,760
pull out of surgery.
But essentially, you know, we're

1069
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:26,200
facing all of these, you know,
far left extremists and, and

1070
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,320
they pose A tremendous domestic
security threat to to the US.

1071
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,760
You know, Biden infamously
warned during his, you know, one

1072
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:39,560
or more of his presidential
addresses that it was right wing

1073
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,280
extremists that pose pose the
greatest threat.

1074
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,880
You know, and and we haven't
seen that, You know, we saw, I

1075
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,160
guess, I guess we could concede
that January 6th was kind of an

1076
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,440
exception.
We saw some violence, mainly

1077
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,640
just trespassing and, you know,
breaking of windows and stuff,

1078
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,960
maybe some pushes against law
enforcement officers, but really

1079
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,560
nothing else but that there was
no no law enforcement officers

1080
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,320
were killed by the by the
protesters slash rioters on

1081
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,760
January 6th.
But if the Black lives matter,

1082
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,360
you know, there was two dozen
police officers that were shot

1083
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:18,920
dead and and 2000 wounded during
the protests of summer 2020.

1084
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,840
And of course there was an
attempt to put to lynch the the

1085
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,840
President of the United States
on May 30th, 2020 at the White

1086
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,840
House, where the White House had
to go dark and Cyprus came out

1087
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:34,320
and the president and his family
were manhandled to to the the

1088
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,600
presidential emergency bunker to
escape potential threats to to

1089
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,160
their lives.
So, you know, there's just no

1090
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,560
question that, you know, not to
mention the trans terrorists and

1091
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,960
all the, all the crazy left wing
and the, the folks that kill,

1092
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,120
you know, black mass shooters
that kill a bunch of white

1093
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,440
people.
I mean, certainly there are

1094
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,960
incidents on the other side too.
So I don't, don't want to

1095
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,400
suggest there aren't, but most
of the incidents have been on

1096
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,680
the, the far left side.
And so, you know, they, they

1097
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,080
really do pose a huge threat.
And, and I I believe they're

1098
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:11,320
working with and are funded not
just by George Soros, but but in

1099
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,480
fact enemy, enemy nations as
well.

1100
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,760
Well, that was going to be my
next question.

1101
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,400
I know for a fact that if
there's a country that's

1102
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:24,080
teetering on the brink, we will
drop assets in to either give it

1103
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:28,160
a push or stabilize it, right?
And not necessarily military

1104
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,920
kind of actions, but more Agent
Provocateur type things.

1105
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,640
So you do think we're seeing
that from foreign, foreign

1106
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,120
actors as well?
Absolutely.

1107
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,480
And it might not, it's likely
not direct, but probably

1108
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:46,120
indirect funding certainly from
China, communist Venezuela,

1109
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:52,360
other other nations, maybe Cuba.
And as you mentioned, there's

1110
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:57,040
likely at least 1000 Iranian or
Iranian allied terrorists,

1111
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,560
including Al Qaeda and Hezbollah
and other groups operating right

1112
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,440
here in the United States ready
to, you know, if we we get into

1113
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,920
a direct bombing strikes on
Iran, they'd likely be be

1114
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,240
activated and we could and they
could, you know, conduct

1115
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,080
sabotage operations and
terrorist attacks throughout the

1116
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:15,400
country.
Got you.

1117
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,800
The other thing that that has
got me worried about this and I

1118
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,040
and I was wondering if you could
speak to this a little bit.

1119
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,640
I remember back around, I want
to say it was 2010 when the Arab

1120
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:32,120
Spring happened and we just saw
country after country go through

1121
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:37,200
massive turmoil.
Could we be looking at something

1122
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:42,440
similar happening to us here?
I noticed that that these, I

1123
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,800
only want to call them protests,
they're riots, right?

1124
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,720
Could we be looking at something
similar here happening to us

1125
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,280
right now?
No, I don't.

1126
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,160
I think the risks of that are
pretty limited.

1127
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,880
Short of, you know, regional or,
or massive cyber attacks, I

1128
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,200
don't see our society breaking
down or, you know, revolution

1129
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,080
occurring.
I, I think despite the fact that

1130
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,680
we only have 50% of law
enforcement officers today that

1131
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:13,280
we had when Biden took office,
I, I think that that's still

1132
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,560
sufficient to, to maintain
overall order.

1133
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,760
Obviously we can't makes it much
more difficult to counter like

1134
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,760
violent criminals and, and you
know, individual riots.

1135
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:28,520
But I, I think, I think the
chances of that happening are,

1136
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,240
are pretty low.
I think of the chance of a

1137
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,279
revolution without outside help,
such as invasion or cyber attack

1138
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,880
or something even worse are
pretty low.

1139
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,040
OK.
My other question on the on that

1140
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,399
is, I know that Trump mobilized,
I think 500 Marines did.

1141
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,000
Did their boots ever touch
ground in in that conflict?

1142
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,479
Yeah, yeah, there are actually
hundreds of Marines have been

1143
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,120
deployed by the Trump
administration to to keep order

1144
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,319
in in Los Angeles.
And I recently learned that

1145
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:02,000
there there was a presser for
that, that George HW Bush

1146
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,000
actually mobilized 1200 Marines
to keep order, restore order

1147
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,040
during the the Rodney Keen riots
back in 92.

1148
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:14,560
So, you know, I, I think that
that's, that was a smart move

1149
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,520
and I think it sends a good,
good signal.

1150
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,640
And they were deployed with
their weapons and ammo, but

1151
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,359
that, you know, the ammo is not
in the chamber.

1152
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:24,880
They're around the magazines are
unloaded, you know, on their

1153
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,640
persons, but not not actually,
you know, in, in the, the

1154
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,800
firearm.
Is there?

1155
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,840
This is where I get nervous,
right?

1156
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:39,399
Because on one hand, I agree you
got to restore law and order.

1157
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:44,880
On the other hand, it's another
thing to have American warriors

1158
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:50,200
trying to corral Americans, and
that's not necessarily because

1159
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,880
of who's in office now.
I worry about the next go round,

1160
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,120
right?
Let's say it's another COVID

1161
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:00,360
kind of situation where, you
know, do they use the military

1162
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,000
to keep people socially
distanced?

1163
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,360
I, you know, lock down that sort
of thing.

1164
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:10,240
I worry it's a bad precedent.
The only thing I really have

1165
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,960
hope on there and, and I think
you can speak uniquely to this,

1166
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,160
is the oath that that that
everybody takes when they join

1167
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,920
the military, right, That
they're going to defend and and

1168
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,600
uphold the Constitution of the
United States.

1169
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,880
Do you think that that's
misplaced?

1170
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:32,920
Do you, do you think that that
maybe do our soldiers have a

1171
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,200
firm enough grasp on what the
Constitution is to make sure

1172
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,320
that they do enforce that and
that alone?

1173
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,400
You know, I think the question
to that is a little nuanced.

1174
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,040
There were, there was, there's
been some surveys of our troops

1175
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,400
that have indicated that over
half of them would be willing to

1176
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,040
pull the trigger on US civilians
if ordered to.

1177
01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:57,320
Obviously not it wouldn't, it
would be some kind of riot

1178
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,960
situation.
They wouldn't just say they'll

1179
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:05,800
shoot someone randomly.
So I, I don't think most of them

1180
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:10,240
were, were in the position where
they would disobey orders, but

1181
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,280
certainly there'd be some some
good ones that may be the lower

1182
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,880
officer level that would, or
even the mid to high officer

1183
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,600
level that would, that might
refuse the illegal orders.

1184
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,040
OK.
All right, good deal.

1185
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,120
Finally, I want to move on to
Trump and, and I'm glad you said

1186
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,640
what you said because it's been
some of my concern here.

1187
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,320
I looked at Trump and, and look,
I, I was always pretty nuanced,

1188
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:38,720
right?
I was like, well, he's probably

1189
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,920
better than anything we got now.
But certainly I wasn't

1190
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,800
necessarily calling him the
savior of the Republic, right?

1191
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,880
I, I think he did come with
some, some issues, but, but

1192
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,080
again, heck of a lot better than
what we had before.

1193
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,760
But I looked at Trump and and I
am surprised a little bit that

1194
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,120
he was able to be corralled as
quickly as he has been.

1195
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,360
Is there any indication of what
happens to A to to someone like

1196
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,720
Trump, who it looks like by all
accounts can't be bought, can't

1197
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,960
be bullied, but yet somehow
finds himself where every other

1198
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,680
American president has been?
Well, I think it starts with the

1199
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,960
deep state.
You know, the deep state has is

1200
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,000
burrowed in inside U.S.
intelligence agencies.

1201
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,360
So regardless of who the
president is, they kind of

1202
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,920
propagandize the same neo con
imperialist war wreck rhetoric

1203
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:35,560
and politicize the intelligence.
Interestingly there, you know,

1204
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,840
our intelligence agencies are
certainly before Trump took

1205
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:44,080
office and likely still they're
pretty pro China in terms of

1206
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,960
the, you know, traditionally
have greatly underestimated the

1207
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,520
Chinese threat, you know, in
terms of China's nuclear arsenal

1208
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,720
by 4 to 1 historically.
So where they're saying it's

1209
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:01,160
like 600 warheads, it's likely
at least four times that they

1210
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,560
likely have more warrants than
we do.

1211
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:07,120
But yeah, I mean, they just they
push this globalist agenda.

1212
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,440
And you know, the more the more
times you hear a lie and the

1213
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:13,840
more time it's reinforced by the
mainstream media.

1214
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:18,840
You know, you if you're not
strong, strong minded in terms

1215
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,800
of critical thinking, then
you're you're likely to begin to

1216
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,520
accept it at some point.
And I think that's what

1217
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,120
happened.
What's happened with Trump.

1218
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,960
And and you know, I say that
reluctantly because, you know,

1219
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,800
Trump has tremendous,
tremendously good instincts when

1220
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,520
it comes to foreign policy.
Like his usually his initial

1221
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,920
opinion is the right one.
And then but he he's known for

1222
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:46,360
the fact that he can be swayed
by whichever of his advisors

1223
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,480
talk to him, talk to him at
last.

1224
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:53,160
So if you have the a neo con,
you know, it's the last briefer

1225
01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:56,440
and then he goes out to give a
speech, then he's likely to pair

1226
01:13:56,440 --> 01:14:00,360
it a lot of the things that the
the neo con advisor says.

1227
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,360
And so that's why you have him
saying really good stuff when

1228
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,080
one day with Russia, not so much
anymore because we haven't

1229
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,880
really heard any any anything
good on Russia from him lately,

1230
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,040
but earlier in his
administration.

1231
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,560
Then the next day he's saying,
oh, we need to support Zelensky

1232
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,680
and we're just going to shovel
arms to him, you know, sell arms

1233
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,960
to him indefinitely.
And if he doesn't want to, you

1234
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,240
know, let them, let them just
try to make peace when he knows

1235
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,160
there's zero chance of that.
And really advocating all

1236
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:31,440
attempts to try to accomplish
what he wanted to do initially,

1237
01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:34,920
which was to his brilliant plan
to divide the sign of Russian

1238
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:39,280
military alliance by
transforming Russia from an

1239
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,600
adversary to a strategic
partner.

1240
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:46,360
And really sad that that he's
decided to give up on that, that

1241
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,960
noble dream.
OK.

1242
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,480
Just two more questions and then
I'll let you go here.

1243
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,480
What do you think the next six
months holds for the globe at

1244
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:00,480
large, and what does it mean for
us here at home?

1245
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,160
Well, I have to say that this,
you know, this bombing campaign

1246
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,840
by Israel against Iran has just
got me a little bit on edge.

1247
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:15,600
I'm ready, you know, personally,
I'm ready to face what's coming.

1248
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,400
You know, I think it's
inevitable.

1249
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,440
It's going to happen.
Eventually the US is going to

1250
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:27,040
face collapse due to the foolish
policies of US leaders provoking

1251
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,560
World War Three.
But obviously most of me would

1252
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,240
would prefer that happen later
than sooner.

1253
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:37,600
And my hope was that President
Trump could delay judgement day,

1254
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,920
I guess, to use a Terminator
terms.

1255
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,920
But it it doesn't seem like
that's likely to be the case.

1256
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,480
I mean, he's actually, you know,
he's, I wouldn't say that he's

1257
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:52,000
escalated the war in Ukraine,
although in some respects it's,

1258
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:58,680
he's simply propagated the, the
dangerous level of escalation

1259
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,640
that Biden had done with the,
you know, the, the long range US

1260
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,760
missile strikes in Russia.
But certainly in terms of

1261
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,080
Israel, I mean, he's poured
flames on the fire without a

1262
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,520
doubt.
And you know, he not only

1263
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,320
started the two-month war with
Yemen, he restarted the war,

1264
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,760
helped Israel restart the war in
Gaza.

1265
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,520
And then they abandoned a bunch
of other countries, obviously

1266
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:27,200
Lebanon mainly, and then now a
strike in Iran, you know,

1267
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:30,520
leading to potential nuclear
escalation and all kinds of

1268
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:35,760
existential threats that we we
likely would not be exposed to

1269
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,160
were were not for US support for
those strikes.

1270
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:42,160
So I'm pretty pessimistic.
You know, when we last spoke, I

1271
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:43,960
was really bullish.
And I'm like, you know, Trump's

1272
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,680
going to make peace.
He's going to save us from World

1273
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:46,960
War 3.
This is a blessing.

1274
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,680
This is what the kind of what
the Lord wanted and intended or

1275
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,480
planned.
And and now I'm kind of I'm kind

1276
01:16:53,480 --> 01:16:57,480
of done to 180 in terms of based
on Trump's performance, you

1277
01:16:57,480 --> 01:17:02,160
know, his about face on on, you
know, forever wars and his

1278
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,720
willingness to go to the brink
of World War Three for no

1279
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,800
reason.
So you think you think more

1280
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,320
global unrest is is for sure to
come?

1281
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:16,240
Oh yeah, yeah, I think the
situation will continue to get

1282
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,160
worse and worse over the course
of the Trump presidency.

1283
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,960
Unless, unless he changed his
course.

1284
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,160
I mean, really, he's, he's a
free agent.

1285
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,560
He can, he can tell us he can
fire all his neo con advisors in

1286
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,880
one day, replace them with JD
Vance.

1287
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,320
And you know, Tulsi Gabbard, he
could point Tulsi Gabbard as

1288
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,000
Secretary of State and
International Security advisor

1289
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,560
tomorrow and, and make peace
with Russia, force Israel to

1290
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,000
make peace with Iran.
And we, you know, we could and

1291
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,160
refuse to defend Taiwan
militarily and make a deal with

1292
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:50,440
China over Taiwan and, and we
could continue having peace

1293
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:55,320
almost, you know, at least until
someone, someone like Kamala

1294
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,560
Harris, you know, come gets
elected president.

1295
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,880
Gotcha.
That's my hope.

1296
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,480
But I just think that's that's
an unlikely possibility.

1297
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,040
And.
And I, I don't want to call them

1298
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:07,960
theaters because I don't think
that's a fair word.

1299
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,280
But, but in all three of those
regions, the Middle East, the

1300
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,920
Russia and Ukraine and Thai and
and the Pacific there with China

1301
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,240
and and Taiwan, all three of
those things get worse.

1302
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:24,080
So, yeah, I think, well, I
don't, I don't think that it's,

1303
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,760
I think the situation is fairly
stable with regards to Russia

1304
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,120
and Ukraine because despite our
attempts, you know, Western

1305
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,280
attempts to escalate the war and
Ukrainian attempts to escalate

1306
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:38,160
the war, Russia's, you know,
Putin has been very restrained

1307
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,560
in his response.
So.

1308
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,280
But at the same time, obviously
he's probably likely tiring with

1309
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,720
the Trump administration's
refusal to make peace or

1310
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,600
restore, you know, normal
economic relations with Russia.

1311
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:56,080
So obviously he still views the
US as the main adversary with

1312
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,080
regard.
But, you know, with regards to

1313
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,600
China and Taiwan, I still have
some hope that, you know, based

1314
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,800
on all of Trump's statements, I
would, you know, you'd have to

1315
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,760
conclude that Trump would not
defend Taiwan militarily.

1316
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:12,800
But the possibility for
accidental escalation to a full

1317
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,920
scale war, I think it's high
because I think he'd be

1318
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,480
pressured into sending our, you
know, the US Pacific Fleet

1319
01:19:19,480 --> 01:19:23,240
within striking range of the
block of the Chinese blockade.

1320
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:27,120
And there could be some
interactions in terms of, you

1321
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,400
know, missile launches or
warning shots that were

1322
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:34,160
misinterpreted that could could
lead to, you know, escalate to a

1323
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,440
full scale war.
So I guess I'm more hopeful with

1324
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:44,800
regards to the Taiwan theater.
But yeah, I I view that the the

1325
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,320
Iran conflict is as the most
likely trigger for World World

1326
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,000
War Three at this point.
And Trump has recently stated

1327
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,680
that the US might join the war.
It might join a bombing campaign

1328
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:58,320
against Iran with Israel.
And and again, Iran has a

1329
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:04,000
compact with two of our biggest.
I don't know antagonist at this

1330
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,240
point, right, With with Russia
and China.

1331
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,000
So that that that does have the
ability to blow up.

1332
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,800
In terms of look, a large
portion of why Trump got elected

1333
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,680
was because things were really
good on Wall Street, but really

1334
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,680
crappy on Main Street.
He has instituted the tariffs,

1335
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,360
right?
And I go back and forth on

1336
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:25,880
tariffs.
I'll be honest.

1337
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,000
Part of me is like, yeah, we got
to do something.

1338
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,160
The other part of me is like,
this isn't helping.

1339
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,320
Where, where do we stand
economically, right?

1340
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,240
Because I do think as, as we go
economically, we'll also end up

1341
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:42,440
going militarily, right?
So if we in your, you know, just

1342
01:20:42,440 --> 01:20:46,800
as you said, if we drop down to
4th in, in middle in, in

1343
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,360
economic power, I think we could
go down to second or third

1344
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,960
militarily, right, Just because
we don't have the money to fund

1345
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:58,720
it.
Any any idea if, if the tariffs

1346
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,320
are having the impact that Trump
was hoping that they were

1347
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,760
having?
I can tell you my grocery bill

1348
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,840
hasn't gone down.
And I know people are still

1349
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,680
suffering out there.
And when Trump got elected, the

1350
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,640
thought was, well, he's got a
blank check for four years.

1351
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,320
And I was like, that's not true.
He's got a blank check for two,

1352
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,360
right?
And it's not even really a blank

1353
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,360
check.
He's got to start showing some

1354
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,520
sort of production in these next
two years or the midterms will

1355
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,720
come around and he'll lose his
majority.

1356
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,920
Any idea which way that's going
to fall in the in the next year

1357
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,320
and a half here?
Well, I think the midterms,

1358
01:21:34,440 --> 01:21:37,640
Democrats are likely favored to
retake both the House and the

1359
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,800
Senate.
Unfortunately, if you look at

1360
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,120
the polls today, I think we'd
hold both House in the Senate

1361
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,200
unquestionably.
So things would have to change.

1362
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,600
But you know, the average
midterm loss in the House, I

1363
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:54,520
think it's something on the
order of 25 seats, 24 seats at

1364
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:59,840
least we currently have 220 or
221.

1365
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:05,280
I think it's 220 House seats
against like 213 because there's

1366
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,240
a few Democrat, you know, 2
Democrat vacancies, maybe even 3

1367
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,040
in the Senate.
We're a little bit in better

1368
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:18,640
position there, but I would say
it's a 5050 chance at this point

1369
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,120
whether we would hold the
Senate.

1370
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,120
So you're right.
And, and not only that, but we

1371
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,680
can't even corral our own
Republicans together, you know,

1372
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,160
and a lot of all this big
beautiful bill, we, we passed it

1373
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,920
by a narrow marching out of the
House and the Senate's, we don't

1374
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,720
even have near the votes we, we
need to pass the House version.

1375
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,440
So they're redoing that.
During the first 100 days of the

1376
01:22:38,440 --> 01:22:43,160
Trump administration, Congress
passed 6 bills, which is an all

1377
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,240
time low and in modern history
from the number of bills passed

1378
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:51,040
by, you know, party in power.
So in terms of legislative

1379
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,840
victories, Trump, Trump
administration has done poorly

1380
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,760
in terms of their executive
orders.

1381
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,920
I think they've done amazingly
well, really great executive

1382
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:03,440
orders.
A lot of executive measures have

1383
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:05,800
been really good.
The tariffs have been really

1384
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,400
good.
Unfortunately, the problem with

1385
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,480
the tariffs is, is that we need
higher tariffs, we need to

1386
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:16,000
reciprocal tariffs.
The Trump tariffs didn't go far

1387
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:20,200
enough, but most of they were
only 50% reciprocal.

1388
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:25,960
So if Vietnam for example had
96% tariff on us or 92% I think

1389
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:31,000
and we had 46% back at them, the
the new deal he negotiate with

1390
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:35,120
China is is not too bad.
Basically, they have 77%

1391
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,840
effective tariffs on us.
Ours I think are about 50%.

1392
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,160
They're about so much more
equitable than before he came to

1393
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,000
office.
So I, I'm the problem is that

1394
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,320
they don't, they don't actually
honor their agreements.

1395
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,720
So, you know, it's extremely
unlikely that they'll, they'll

1396
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,200
honor what they, what they
signed up to, but at least we

1397
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,400
have 50% tariffs back on them
overall.

1398
01:23:56,440 --> 01:24:01,680
But the other tariffs that we
had have have been suspended,

1399
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:07,200
you know, pending pending talks.
And so basically, you know,

1400
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,880
tariffs I think are one of the
most effective ways to build

1401
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,200
your industrial base.
And I don't think he's using

1402
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:14,760
them enough.
But I'm, I'm really happy.

1403
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,720
I, I'm very pleased with the,
the, the direction that he's

1404
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,640
taken us and his realization
that tariffs are what built us

1405
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,240
and the greatest manufacturing
industrial power on the planet

1406
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:30,600
in the early 1900s.
So I'd like to see more of that.

1407
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,320
And obviously there's, there's a
price to be paid in terms of

1408
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,200
some higher consumer prices,
which I haven't really seen

1409
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,840
because just because the tariffs
have kind of been on and off.

1410
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:46,360
But I, I think that is a very
important key, key tool in the

1411
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,960
President's arsenal to rebuild
our economy and mainly our

1412
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:54,400
industrial base so that we can
be in rebuilding our own weapons

1413
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,320
again.
Because currently we we have to

1414
01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:00,520
import Chinese parts in foreign
parts to to build our advanced

1415
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,600
weapon systems.
Has there been any moves that

1416
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,800
you've noticed start producing
that more at home?

1417
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,520
So the key is to invoke the
defense.

1418
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,320
I'm trying to think with what
it's called, but there's kind of

1419
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:19,320
an Emergency Defense Industrial
Production Act that was, I think

1420
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,600
it was invoked by Biden for
like, you know, COVID measures,

1421
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,120
masks and different stuff like
that, medical supplies.

1422
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,040
I think the Trump administration
has invoked that for certain

1423
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,960
things.
I'd like to see him do more more

1424
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,760
that.
So I I think we're moving in the

1425
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,880
right direction in terms of, you
know, defense, industrial

1426
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,080
production, but we're still
woefully behind China.

1427
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,320
Gotcha.
OK.

1428
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,440
And do you see that changing
much at all the, the, the, the

1429
01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:48,800
way things are right now?
Do you think that'll hold pretty

1430
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,480
much through through at least
the next year and a half?

1431
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,400
Yeah, I think, I think there'll
be incremental progress on that

1432
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:59,800
front during the remainder of
the Trump, Trump term, but not,

1433
01:25:59,960 --> 01:26:04,560
not sufficient to be able to
credibly deter Chinese

1434
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:09,480
aggression, OK.
So I, I want to take all these

1435
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:10,920
things we talked about now,
right?

1436
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,520
We got the conflict in the
Middle East now with Israel and

1437
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:20,400
Iran, the ongoing stuff with
with Ukraine and Russia and

1438
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,520
finally Taiwan and China.
We're not in great shape

1439
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,720
financially still.
It's going to take a long time

1440
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:34,840
to, I think, to get that back on
track, what with with the threat

1441
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,040
of war either escalating or
breaking out even further.

1442
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:43,200
What can the average family do
to kind of prepare for for

1443
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:47,360
harder times should they come?
Well, I think you want to have a

1444
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:51,200
year's supply of food storage
also, you know, medications,

1445
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,440
prescriptions, the Max extent
water.

1446
01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:57,120
You want to have a lot of water
storage or else live by, you

1447
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,720
know, by lake or something like
that.

1448
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,280
But obviously ammo, you know,
guns and ammo are important as

1449
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,240
well.
And you want to, you know, to,

1450
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:13,000
to kind of paraphrase a popular
term, you want to, you want to

1451
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,720
get right with Jesus.
You want to, you know, draw

1452
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,280
closer to God because ultimately
you can have all the

1453
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,760
preparations, the physical
preparations of the world, but

1454
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,640
if you're not spiritually
prepared, you, you may not,

1455
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,840
might not survive what's coming.
So, so that would be my, my

1456
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,120
advice or recommendations to
your viewers is to is to, you

1457
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,840
know, keep the commandments,
draw closer to, to the Savior

1458
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,240
and just help your family do the
same.

1459
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:44,240
And, you know, that's really the
greatest insurance that I see to

1460
01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:48,040
to tribulations that that might
be ahead.

1461
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,280
Awesome.
Well, David, as always, I

1462
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,680
appreciate you coming on, man.
When this sort of stuff breaks

1463
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,280
out, you're my go to.
You break it down in a way that

1464
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,160
even a guy like me can
understand and that's

1465
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,480
impressive.
So put that on your resume.

1466
01:28:01,480 --> 01:28:04,400
You were able to talk down to
Dave Sanders and get him all

1467
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:05,960
squared away.
So that's, that's worth

1468
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,880
something.
OK, let's just stay in touch and

1469
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:14,360
as we'll plan on touching here,
you know, maybe latter part of

1470
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,040
this year unless something
really breaks.

1471
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,640
But other than that man, I
really appreciate you being on.

1472
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,240
Sounds great, thanks a lot for
inviting me or show all.

1473
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:23,120
Right man.
Thanks.

1474
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,440
Bye everybody.
Hang out for just 5 minutes

1475
01:28:25,440 --> 01:28:58,440
there, Dave.
You're listening to the Mormon

1476
01:28:58,480 --> 01:28:59,880
Renegade podcast.